The Guardian Wipes Israel Off the Nobel Prize Map
In the past year I have noticed that my very occasional sojourns into the Guardian’s “Comment Is Free” discussion have been deleted by the moderator when saying something as innocuous as: “The Palestinians, perennially complaining about lack of opportunity, have had next door to them for sixty-one years an example of a people who rose from oppression and created a high-tech democracy where gays can march and women do as they please without fear of being stoned to death.” Unless you live on Mars you will be aware that it is obviously not in the Guardian’s house style to laud the achievements of tiny, oil-impoverished Israel.
So, presto! In October 2009 Simon Rogers of the Guardian finally eradicated Israel. How did he do this?
The day after Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the Guardian decided to publish a chart showing the nations and people who had won the prize in the past century. To the utter disbelief of those who saw it, the list omitted the Israeli names. There was Yasser Arafat in 1994, clearly listed as a winner from a country that does not actually exist, “Palestine,” but there was no Shimon Peres or Yitzhak Rabin of Israel. There was Anwar Sadat of Egypt, but no Menachem Begin of Israel. The aforesaid Israelis had worked as tirelessly as their Muslim counterparts to forge a new generation of peace and prosperity amongst the warring nations. Who could forget Prime Minister Rabin’s impassioned speech about “no more blood and tears,” as he signed agreement after agreement with his nation’s former enemies? Who could forget the embrace of Egyptian President Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Begin — a sight no one would have believed possible just a few years before they signed the historic Camp David Accords? It was this scenario that was to cost Sadat his life. It was the handshake in the Rose Garden of the White House that would lose Rabin his life.
Readers of this site may think I have become a crazed supporter of Shalom Achshav (Peace Now), but my point is that no matter how one despised the coming together of Begin and Sadat and Arafat and Rabin, the omission of the Israeli Nobel winners is shocking and unforgivable. As far as I am concerned it was deliberate and malevolent. The Guardian used the excuse that there had been a glitch in the entering of data in the Nobel listings. Oh, please.
What I do like about this staggering omission is that it corroborated my belief that Israel hatred in the liberal press is obsessional. The Nobel omissions corroborate Julie Burchill’s courageous journalism protesting what she perceived as the “vile anti-Semitism” around her during her departure from the Guardian-Observer. People who have scoffed that Julie Burchill and I see an anti-Semite and Israel-hater in every corner can now please be silent. In National Review Online Tom Gross reported that the Guardian “has wiped Israel off the Nobel Prize map, much as Iranian despot Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would like to wipe Israel off the real map.”
I think there is not enough ass-kicking going on in Western Civilization. Seriously. We are genetically engineered to respond to spanking on our bottoms… as well as judiciously applied boots. It would certainly straighten out some of the less virulent cases. Just a few. C’mon, am I asking too much for just a few well-kicked asses?
All I want for Christmas is a few kicked asses, a few kicked….
Imagine the cognitive dissonance created among left-wing Jews who really think they are supporting the true road to peace when Israel and Jews are so demonized by this leftist rag. What ever could they be telling themselves now?
Eurabia? You were doing so well up until then, presenting a rational critiscism of a leftist paper. And than you had to go and join the anti-muslim conspiracy theorists with that one word. So sad, its like hearing rational educated anti-semites slip-of-the-tongue when they cant differentiate between zionbists and “Jews”. Instantly recognizable.
Carol:Only muslims are cool right now.
Regarding comment 2 by Norman G: Norman, cognitive dissonance gets resolved. It does not hang around. The Left tells itself something jelly-like for 3-5 seconds that justifies its position and then continues. The courage to leave the Left is lacking no matter what level of contradiction is present in its views. It provides cover for not having to investigate matters of fact, contemplate personal behavior standards, or relinquish principles that sound good when ranted, but would never hold up in the laboratory. In short, the Left is a comfortable place to be.
The left has to hate Israel. Evan Sayet explains why:
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev030507a.cfm
The Guardian’s ‘Comments is free’ section is now so openly anti-Semitic that it has its own shadow website actually monitoring the bile, CiF Watch. The articles that are openly anti-Israel are met with utter glee by its readers; anything, pace the Harold Evans piece, that shows where Israel is in the right is met with revulsion and vehement vitriol. You feel as if you need to take a bath after reading comments so dripping with hatred, bigotry and ignorance, that you are astounded that what was once a reputable newspaper prints them on their website. Shameful.
It’s beyond that, these intentional occurrences are symptomatic of the greatest resurgence in antisemitism we’ve experienced this century. The level of fear that presides in today’s Jewish communities is staggering and will get much worse. Jewish identity invites unbridled taunts where ten years ago it was just another religion, group or ethnicity. The media war has succeeded in once again demonizing us amongst our peers, unfit for humanity, we’re cast out again as our historical repetitious experience dictates.
I lived in Europe 10 years, working in all EU countries where I saw racial hatreds seethe everywhere while they all proclaimed America the racist.
Euro socialists have experience at wiping out the past and brainwashing the public — now it’s the Jews turn again.
It’s coming to the U.S. too, orchestrated out of the Chancellery in D.C.
Ahhh well. The staff at the Guardian (and Mr Faisal) must often wax poetic on the great shame that the Germans blew it in 1940. Think of how things would be different now. A prosperous UK under German “Protection” (and Judenrein!). A Middle east kept in a perpetual state of violent infantilism (wait a moment, they do it to themselves now!).
Hell, I’ve been waiting for it! My Jewish education has prepared me for this moment, I was taught to be vigilant and expect yet another surge of antisemitism by my instructors who predicted it’s revolve. I’m witnessing it now, directly, with utter clarity, wide awake, looking at it!
Fnord, just because there are anti-muslim conspiracy theories, doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you. Eurabia is alive and well. If you disagree, kindly explain why in terms other than RAAAAAACIST!!!!111ZOMGWTFBBQ!
if(nobelWinner.getCountryOfOrigin.equalsIgnoreCase(“israel”)
{
nobelWinnerList.remove(winner);
}
The guardian calls that an “error.” I generally refer to those things as “requirements.”
“resurgence in antisemitism ” don’t kid yourself, in Europe it was always there. 80% of my countrymen are anti-Semitic and our press is 100%. There is NEVER anything positive about Israel in the Swiss Press. There are only 2 places in the world for Jews, the US and Israel. I am looking forward with great satisfaction and glee that Europe will be overran with muslims and that will be the end of Europe as we know it. By that time I will have left.
It was corrected the same day by the writer–who claims that it was a font issue–who personally apologized to his readers on the comments page, he also said this:
Actually, we also missed John Raleigh Mott, The Quakers and the League of Red Cross Societies.
As for the idiot who claimed that Jews were singled out, he may want to investigate the lineage of Kissenger.
I am looking forward with great satisfaction and glee that Europe will be overran with muslims and that will be the end of Europe as we know it.
You are filth.
Given that Israel condemns Europeans who want to restrict immigration you can’t expect those same Europeans to care about Israel.
The best thing would be for Israel and Jewish groups in Europe to support immigration restrictions. That way ‘Eurabia’ will never happen.
Moho, you assume they did that much research. Even if they’re anti-semetic, doesn’t mean they’re going to catch every one.
Of course we all know that anything the self confessed JEW HATING Mohammedan antisemitic ARAB that MOHO is is bound to be true dont we. Islam is famous for its truth and integrity………………… NOT!!!!!!!!!
2. Norman G.: “Imagine the cognitive dissonance created among left-wing Jews who really think they are supporting the true road to peace when Israel and Jews are so demonized by this leftist rag.”
We left-wing Jews are utterly bereft, destroyed, traumatized! Our support for the peace process was wholly dependent on The Guardian. Woe is us!
King Edward I expelled Jews from Britain in 1290, some 200 years before the Spanish did. The Brits are again in the leadership role of what the rest of Europe seems to be engaged in. Think of this boys and girls, would any of you want to live in a country devoid of Jews?
Pragmatist. I want to thank you for the stress relief. Every time I see your posting name juxtaposed with your crazed asinine screeds, the laughter really lightens the load.
1) This story is old.
2) It was likely to be an error.
3) See the CiF Watch blog for exposing real antisemitism at The Guardian.
England was lost long ago. The only way to save it from the Islamic-leftist menace is for the British people to vote in he fascist, racist BNP. Whether it`s the Labour commies, the Muslim Jihadis or the BNP fascists who win in the end, liberty will be a foreign concept to the isles.
The Nobel is overrated. I gave mine back.
Regarding comment 15 Moho:
“Actually, we also missed John Raleigh Mott, The Quakers and the League of Red Cross Societies.”
Conspiracy theory: In trying to eliminate the Israelis, these other names got caught up in the matter.
The question is, “Where was the error made?” When trying to eliminate the Israelis or when leaving out a column or row. Given the Guardian’s reputation, I would bet on the conspiracy theory. That’s the problem with having a sullied name. No one believes you anymore.
The Guardian is a source of anti-Semitism in the name of evenhandedness. Of course, evenhandedness gets shunted aside when dealing with “militant” Muslims who are terrorists to the rest of us. The Guardian guards only itself. If they told the truth about “militant” Muslims, they would be destroyed or otherwise seriously dead. For the Jews, it’s just another day.
The message in all of these insults by the British press is that they do not want Jews around anywhere. I get the message loud and clear.
If I ever go to the UK, it will be for the basic purpose of helping British supporters of Israel give that support more directly. Otherwise the British can take their fabled isle to hell and burn forever, for all I care. And the Muslim Jew-hating trolls on this list can burn in hell with them. I won’t comment on the Jews who are the useful idiots of the Jew-haters.
As for Jews in exile ANYWHERE, they are wise to get out and come HOME. The welcome mat is getting awful thin elsewhere, ans when the world economy starts to collapse, the welcome mat will be gone altogether.
The Guardian is a source of anti-Semitism in the name of evenhandedness.
Is criticizing an Islamic state an act of bigotry? Is Pajamas Media bigoted because of its focus [to the exclusion of almost everything else] on Islam? Please explain why or why not?
Re: Moho #28:
I do not understand your need for an explanation, but here goes.
Bigotry implies that the bigot has left out relevant information before making a judgment. Post the information I have left out.
“Militant” Muslims are reprehensible triumphalists, caught in the web of their own violent rhetoric and historic behavior patterns that subsumes many types of violence.
“Everyday” Islam, by sitting on the fence, is its own worst enemy. It has at its disposal contradictory statements and pulls out what is needed at the moment, depending upon the audience – sort of like Obama.
Today’s Islam is exclusionary to a degree that can only be called tribal. Islamic countries – as they expand – will justify their need for others to conform to their dogma and the world will suffer. You are either in or out. Thus, everyone who is not “in” is angry or afraid or asleep. However, some who are “in” are also afraid or angry or asleep.
No time for further explanation about opposition to “militant” Islamic influences in our very small world. The one who understands, will understand on his own.
Otherwise the British can take their fabled isle to hell and burn forever, for all I care
That is pure racial hatred.
Only a small minority of Brits are a part of the left wing anti-Israel crowd. Jews are far more numerous on the British (and American) left than Anglo-Saxons. If conservative Anglo-Saxons threw up their arms in despair at Jewish leftism and said the same things about Jews as you say about the British wouldn’t that be bigotry? I think so.
Regarding the attitude of Islam to those who have done nothing in particular to them.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=17822#more-17822
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY_VKHCqQus&feature=player_embedded
Well, Jerry, we know that you can’t answer a simple question. I asked you what you thought of Pajamas Media’s focus on Islam, I didn’t say you were bigoted. Here’s a more concrete example of the kind of thinking I was prompting you to do, though it seems far too complex and nuanced compared to the level of discourse that you’re obviously used to. Keep in mind, that I’m just changing the words here, this is not my opinion, but simply your feelings re-routed toward your home team, rather than the group you apparently seem to hate:
“Militant” Jews are reprehensible triumphalists, caught in the web of their own violent rhetoric and historic behavior patterns that subsumes many types of violence.
“Everyday” Judaism, by sitting on the fence, is its own worst enemy. It has at its disposal contradictory statements and pulls out what is needed at the moment, depending upon the audience – sort of like Obama.
Today’s Judaism is exclusionary to a degree that can only be called tribal. Israel– as it expands – will justify their need for others to conform to their dogma and the world will suffer. You are either in or out. Thus, everyone who is not “in” is angry or afraid or asleep. However, some who are “in” are also afraid or angry or asleep.
No time for further explanation about opposition to “militant” Jewish influences in our very small world. The one who understands, will understand on his own.
The last bit is especially pertinent. Because you’ve provided no evidence, you’re basically saying that the people who “get it”, get it without having to think about it or base their opinion on facts.
I have to say I do not feel bitter and twisted about jews, arabs or any ethnic group in particular. I am not a jew. I am, however, royally pissed off at the never ending vicious attacks on jews and Israel. Draw a line in the sand, on the ski-hill, or the parking lot – I’m standing over there with the jews.
To biblio44:
Your failed attempt at sarcasm indicates great gaps in your synaptic junctions (you might want to have that checked) It is obvious you serve the same function that Lenin, or was it Stalin, that introduced the term “useful idiots” or something like that. In no way did I indicate your misguided efforts were wholly dependent on “The Guardian”. No indeed. You also no doubt rely on such exquisite fair-minded practitioners of the ‘Fourth Estate” as The Nation, the BBC, Al-Jezirah, The Huffington Post. Haaretz and that bastion of Jewish pride and defense The New York Times.
We left-wing Jews are utterly bereft, destroyed, traumatized! Our support for the peace process was wholly dependent on The Guardian. Woe is us!
The Guardian’s excuse is plausible. It would be nice to see an article that takes the step of actually debunking that excuse before moving on to condemning it.
As far as I know, the Israeli winners eliminated were all part of a group of winners, so theoretically, if the first names were the non-Israelis and the latter names were left off the list it could have happened.
Here’s what I don’t get though: If Begin was left off the 1979 prize and Carter and Sadat were both mentioned because they were the first two names, how then could BOTH Peres and Rabin be left off the 1993 prize?
Either it’s the same mistake for both years (ie the third winner is omitted both times or the second and third winner are omitted both times) or the excuse becomes much more flimsy.
I need more info.
Re Moho comment 32
Perhaps you missed the informational links in my last post – Jerry comment 31
After a while one must accept the overwhelming amount of information as essentially characterizing the constructs at hand. One may always find contradicting examples, but with statement weightings, simple statistical procedures can be applied, such as multiple regression, to reach a fairly certain conclusion.
A more informal procedure of evaluating constructs is the application of positivistic thinking. What we know of past events suggests the explanation for each new circumstances unless there are strong indications of other possible interpretations of the new circumstance.
In short, a bit less opinion and a bit more compiling of facts does wonders for improving the quality of knowledge, don’t you think? You may wish to review the content of the links I have provided and then report back to the board with your findings.
34. Norman G.: “To biblio44: …. It is obvious you serve the same function that Lenin, or was it Stalin, that introduced the term “useful idiots” or something like that.”
Norman, Norman — please! This is an English-only site. Please have your comments properly translated next time.
See, the thing is that Moho wasn’t being entirely sarcastic or satirical. He really believes that Jews who have a clue about Judaism are reprehensible triumphalists at the same time he finds no threat from Islamic jihadis. He certainly has no problem with Judea and Samaria being Judenrein. Prejudice against Israeli Arabs? Proof of Israel being an apartheid state. Palestinian Authority law making it a capital crime to sell land to Jews? Nothing to see here. A Jewish community building a school? Illegal expansion of settlements. An Arab home built in lieu of building permits in East Jerusalem? Exercising their rights as indigenous people.
For Moho it’s as simple as two legs bad four legs good. He just thinks the animals on the farm will give him two honorary legs for being such a good Jew. One of the “good Jews” who will be tolerated when the Palestinians triumph.
It’s an even bet that the last time Moho did anything traditionally Jewish was when he was 13.
Hey Moho, you know how to put on tefilin? Can you say the Shema without using a transliteration? Can you even read Hebrew? Who was Jesus’ mother? Who was Moses’ mother? Who was Jesus’ father? Who was Moses’ father? What did R’ Judah HaNasi compile? What are the Bavli and the Yerushalmi? Why isn’t swine kosher?
Just to introduce a bit of information, the reality is that of the three Abrahamic faiths, Judaism is the least exclusive. Christianity and Islam both say that only members of their faith communities are righteous in God’s eyes. Judaism, in contradistinction, teaches that the righteous of all nations have a share in the world to come.
Islam is a religion of world conquest. I’m sorry if that offends your sensitive ears, but it’s the sad truth. It’s no less truthful than saying that the Great Commission of Christianity is to spread belief in Jesus to all men.
But, hey, keep feeding that crocodile.
“Only a small minority of Brits are a part of the left wing anti-Israel crowd.”
Like antisemites from time immemorial, coisty has to just make shit up.
“Is Pajamas Media bigoted because of its focus [to the exclusion of almost everything else] on Islam?”
shmoho lies again. PJM obviously covers a vast range of topics, but then the Nazis were always partial to the “big lie” technique. Is shmoho bigoted because of his obsession about Israel and his enthusiasm for annihilationist antisemitic gangs like Hamas and Hezbollah?
@Fnord:
Anti-muslim conspiracy theorists??? You’ve gotta be kidding. What’s the area code of your cave? Creeping Islamofascism has occured througout Europe, with its complicity. Britain has bent over backwards to accommodate the Islamofascists within its borders. They allow them seats in their government and influence in their schools, they launch a public relations campaign (‘I Am the West’) begging them not to attack, and they permit the practice of Sharia Law.
Meanwhile, the Imams spew anti-Western rhetoric from neighborhood mosques, threaten to make Britain into a Caliphate, and the Brits wonder why this kind of crap continues.
READ: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1054909/Have-babies-Muslims-UK-hate-fanatic-says-warning-comes-9-11-UK.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031784/Schoolboys-punished-detention-refusing-kneel-pray-Allah.html
http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/mostpopular.var.2288512.0.motorist_told_flag_could_be_racist.php
Britain has taken the extra special step of providing welfare to the leader of a terrorist cell. An undercover investigation by a British news outlet has uncovered some sordid details:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0302_terror.shtml
Europe is on its way to Dhimmihood.
Coisty, quoting me: Otherwise the British can take their fabled isle to hell and burn forever, for all I care…
And he complains: That is pure racial hatred.
Coisty made my day.
Thanks, dude! Just ’cause you can’t stand us doesn’t mean you can’t make me happy – even if you don’t mean to. And obviously you can’t take the medicine you Jew-haters are used to dealing out….
Moho : show us the corrected link then. I don’t buy it. Also no one said Jews were singled out, just Israelis
I will regard the omission of Jewish names on the Nobel Peace Prize list to be a mistake when the Guardian publishes a retraction of the article and a corrected article on the front page. It is so amazing to me that the one thing that the newspapers claim to have (integrity and accuracy) over the internet sources is routinely sacrificed for an expedient political advantage. If I were a newspaper owner, I would require all corrections to be on the front page with bold type, with a “three strikes and you are out” policy regarding accuracy.
Western civilization (defined by its adherence to Judeo-Christian moral) is under assault of two mortal enemies: secular humanism – a religion, pretending to be a political movement – and Islam, a political movement pretending to be a religion. Untill this double disguise is not exposed and understood, moral and political mobilization to fight these evil forces is not possible. If 10 years of a fascist rule in Europe is needed to save it from dhimmitude, I am ready to pay this price. It is unbecoming to civilized people to do ethnic cleansing, and if it is needed to save civilization, let barbarians among us do this dirty job.
The Israeli government should recognize the Guardian as the Nazi propaganda machine that it is (no folks, that is not wrong, as the Nazis were leftists too), and throw them out of the country.
And while they’re at it, throw out the correspondents from the Independent and the BBC as well.
They are just slick English language versions of Der Stuermer.
Even the UN has been guilty of this:
http://christianactionforisrael.org/un/missing.html
February 16, 2001
A key United Nations agency has lent its support to a Palestinian Authority tourism map that completely obliterates Israel.
Established by a U.N. resolution in 1978, the United Nations Development Program opened an office in eastern Jerusalem in 1981. It assists PA ministries in the development of the economy, infrastructure, schools, hospitals, water and rural areas.
Five percent of its funding comes from U.N. headquarters, with the rest coming from donors including Japan, the U.S., and European Union member states.
The PA Ministry of Tourism’s new map, called “Palestine, The Holy Land,” shows the entire expanse of present-day Israel, the disputed West Bank and Gaza Strip. The whole area is called “Palestine.” There is no reference to Israel, or indication of borders between Israel and areas controlled by the PA.
Yehudit:
The problem with daring someone to show you something that’s completely available and obvious to anyone with the capacity to use google is two-fold>
A) You reveal that you have no ability to research, and therefore your own statements should be taken with a grain of salt.
B) You put a noose around your entire argument. Its like saying, “if the sky’s blue, then take me outside and prove it”. Trust me when I say that I take no pleasure in humiliating someone in this way.
Oh, here’s the link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/oct/09/nobel-peace-prize-winners-barack-obama
@ Coisty (#30) wrote:
“Jews are far more numerous on the British (and American) left than Anglo-Saxons. If conservative Anglo-Saxons threw up their arms in despair at Jewish leftism and said the same things about Jews as you say about the British wouldn’t that be bigotry? I think so.”
Tricksy, them Jews are. Compromising only 0.5% of the population in the UK and 2.2% of the US population yet pulling off huge electoral victories in both places year after year. All of this against the wishes of what you call ‘Anglo-Saxons’ and we would call ‘regular white folks’ or something like that.
I think we can all learn from this that there is plenty of bigotry to go around. What always amazes me is that folks in the UK are even aware that there are Jews among them at all. There are so few, nearly all city dwellers, and more assimilated than even the US Jewish community. Most are afraid or ashamed to show their identity. If it weren’t for antisemitism nobody would even know they were there.
Spindok
Always fun watching liberals demonizing jews and whitewashing muslims.
Yep, jews are evil, they dare defend themselves and retaliate agianst attacks.
Yep muslims are wonderful, they are only doing population control by murdering so many people for Allah and bonus! they are killing jews and free people. Oops, I guess they also slaughter each other, oh well accidents happen.
How dare anyone retaliate against muslims, they only want a little geonocide.
The Muzzlims removed Byzantium Civilization from western memory also with the help of their christian lackeys.
I think we can all learn from this that there is plenty of bigotry to go around. What always amazes me is that folks in the UK are even aware that there are Jews among them at all. There are so few, nearly all city dwellers, and more assimilated than even the US Jewish community.
Uh, you obviously don’t read the London-based British press. Jews are very prominent in both the media and the Labour government. (Though in government I’d say Scots are more numerous – “the Scottish Raj” as it’s become known.)
Most are afraid or ashamed to show their identity.
I’m going to guess you’ve never been to Britain and know virtually nothing about London’s vibrant Jewish community. There have been isolated violent incidents against Jews this decade but I’m almost certain that in all cases it was Muslim immigrants and their British-born offspring, not indigenous Britons. That’s one reason way I suggested Jews should oppose mass immigration as they have been better off in Britain (and other Anglo-Saxon countries) in recent centuries than almost anywhere else on earth. As Britain becomes more Muslim, thanks to Labour’s open borders policy, the situation will likely deteriorate for Britain’s Jews.
as crappy as the guardian is, the fact that the uk is the toilet muslims crap into, sort of equalizes things, and more to the point, makes their anti-semitism amusing.
coisty:
“you’ve never been to Britain and know virtually nothing about London’s vibrant Jewish community. There have been isolated violent incidents against Jews this decade but….”
There is no BUT, don’t invalidate the steady rise of global antisemitism by parring it down to a few “isolated violent incidents.” The “indigenous” mayor Red Ken is no “isolated incident” rather he’s a product of what’s evolved in the U.K. SHAME!!!!
The “indigenous” mayor Red Ken
Blue Boris.
How odd of G-d to choose the jew. But not as odd as those who choose the jewish G-d, and hate the jew!~Francis A. Schaffer
The “indigenous” mayor Red Ken is no “isolated incident” rather he’s a product of what’s evolved in the U.K.
Without immigrants Livingstone would NOT have been elected!
Why decide to differentiate civilized, gentle and often lively – some regrettably boring and defensively uneducated! – human beings?
To what conclusive end?
We are connected, hopefully positively – other than the peculiar odd few who refuse to recognize it – with all the richness and delight of the environment.
Aren’t we fortunate?