Obama’s Grand Delusion about Iran
President Barack Obama’s recent video message to Iranians and their ruling mullahs for the Persian new year was both kind and heartfelt. Norouz, the Persian new year, has been celebrated by Iranians for almost 3,000 years. Norouz means new day and it represents two symbolic ancient concepts: end and rebirth — or end of evil and rebirth of good.
But the ruling mullahs in Iran are trying to usurp our Persian heritage and replace it with Arab/Islamic events. They have even tried to ban the new year celebration, calling it un-Islamic. If it were not for the courage and resistance of Iranians, our new year would have been replaced with an Islamic event just like the many other social changes since the Iranian Revolution.
Forcing Iranians to adhere to a strict Islamic dress code is the least of it. We have been subjected to amputation as the punishment for stealing, lashing for drinking, stoning for adultery, and execution by hanging from cranes for speaking against our rulers. Just days ago, Ayatollah Mohammad Mohammadi Gilani was awarded the highest judicial honor for his 30 years of service to the Islamic Republic. As the chief judge of the Revolutionary Courts, he ordered that demonstrators be killed and virgin girls be raped prior to execution so they could not go to heaven. He called the torture and killing of male and female opponents of the regime fair and just. All for no other reason than they violated the Islamic law as viewed by the mullahs.
President Obama’s comments may be well-intentioned, but like previous U.S. presidents, he ignores the ideology behind the mullahs’ regime. The mullahs’ view of Islam is based on Sharia, Islamic law that condemns as enemies of God all those who oppose them and all those who don’t believe in Allah. The mullahs believe in jihad or holy war for Islam, shahadat (martyrdom), and mahdaviat (the coming of the Shiites’ 12th imam to usher in Armageddon.) They believe that justice can only be served by killing the infidels and raising the flag of Islam worldwide.
These beliefs shape the mullahs’ jihadist policies. And therein lies the reason that U.S. presidents have not managed to succeed in negotiations with Tehran — either through secret or open channels — since the 1979 Iranian Revolution. President Jimmy Carter failed to negotiate the release of American hostages in Iran after the U.S Embassy in Tehran takeover. President Reagan failed to improve relations and failed to release American hostages held in Lebanon in exchange for arms. President George H. W. Bush failed in his secret negotiations with Hashemi Rafsanjani, going as far as recognizing him as the new leader of Iran. President Bill Clinton failed to improve relations when he met Iranian demands, removed sanctions, and apologized to the Iranian government for past U.S. behavior toward Iran. And President George W. Bush failed with his constant threats, which saw no follow-through.
The lesson of America’s failed carrot-and-stick foreign policy toward Iran is clear: Carrots don’t work; sticks work only if there is a follow-through.
The mullahs have backed down only once. Reagan had just about had it with the mullahs after his failed negotiations with them. Iran would not accept peace with Iraq and constantly threatened the flow of oil through the Persian Gulf. Reagan ordered attacks on the Iranian oil fields and naval units in the Persian Gulf. A top Revolutionary Guards commander told me, “A message has been sent by Reagan that if we do not accept peace [with Iraq] immediately, they will nuke us.” It was only then that Ayatollah Khomeini caved in and ended the Iran-Iraq war.
The Persians were so powerful before the Islamic conquests, and I just hope Americans can learn from history. Five words: Never give up the fight.
Stop with your nonsense mr. spy. once a traitor always a traitor.
I hate this regime with a passion, yet when I see people like you, I wanna throw up. you are no better than the mko terrorists. You would love it if bombs were dropped off on your fellow iranians wouldnt you? Wipe all those islamist dirtbags and their followers off iran right?
Typical extremist right wing fear mongering. President Obama has the situation well under control. This President is so great it’s scary! In the article, there’s a list of all the failed attempts at cooperation with the leadership in Iran. Of course all attempts failed. All attempts were missing the one vital ingredient; President Obama.
When those guys in Iran and isrial get a load of President Obama, they will stop all this nonsense. Why? Because President Obama offers a new way. A new vision. A vision of, dare I say it, hope and change! Yea, that’s right. Hope and Change. Soon all hostilities will be a thing of the past because President Obama will fix it. So simple. There. Three cheers for President Obama!!!
Laleh – the world would be infinitely better off if we had bombed the mullahs into the stone age in 1979. The thought of the Iranians with nuclear weapons is simply unacceptable, and no diplomatic efforts will stop them. Unfortunately, stopping them will require military action, ironically, probably even the use of nuclear weapons since we have waited so long.
BPT: The reason why unwashed barbaric nomads from the desert vanquished the Sassanid empire is not in the Sassanid’s “giving up”. The truth is that the pre-islamic Iran in the 7th century was seriously internally weakened by violent power strife + 100 years of war with the neighboring Byzantium. Persian military decimated by constant fighting was unable to repulse the Arab attack.
I would say that there are more words:
1. Never allow internal conflicts to jeopardize your external security.
2. In wars, the enemy of your enemy is sometimes still your long-term enemy, and you should not trust them even if you currently share the same interests.
Nevertheless, the Western civ is pretty lax in observing these simple rules.
Excellent analysis! I have criticized some of your earlier pieces as being to soft, or off base with regard to Israel. But you have absolutely hit this one out of the park. Unfortunately Obama, in my opinion has neither the fortitude or ideological make up to prevent the Mullah’s from achieving their demented vision for the world.
Previous posters are from Mars perhaps?
Thank you once again sir. I will be forwarding this piece to many folks!!
“Laleh – the world would be infinitely better off if we had bombed the mullahs into the stone age in 1979. The thought of the Iranians with nuclear weapons is simply unacceptable, and no diplomatic efforts will stop them. Unfortunately, stopping them will require military action, ironically, probably even the use of nuclear weapons since we have waited so long.”
A brief overview of American aggression (only on Iran) for you yanks.
1953-CIA backed coup overthrows the popular democratic gov.
1953-1979 The US Supported a brutal dictatorship. 1000′s murdered by the Shahs secret police the SAVAK.
1979-81 US hostages taken and released.
1980-1988 Following popular revolution against the US backed dictator, the US supported the aggressor in a war that cost Iran 500,000 casualties.
The US escorts shipping up and down the gulf, except Iranian, which it allows Iraq to attack
When Iraq falters in its attack, the US provides chemical weapons satellite intelligence
1988- USS ship shoots down a commercial flight operated by Iran Air. refuse to apologize. Gives medals to the shooters. George H. W. Bush declared, “I will never apologize for the United States of America — I don’t care what the facts are” in reference to the incident
1998 Irans regional neighbours, India/Pakistan get nuke, no longterm sanctions are placed on them.
2002 USA places Iran in Axis of Evil
2003 Iran offers full transparency on WMD, aid on the war on terror including HAMAS hizbollah, and co-ordination on Iraq, normalisation of relations. Offer rejected by USA
2003 US invades countries on Irans borders farking them up beyond repair.
Iran:
6000 BC – The contemporary brick 5000 BC – Wine 5000 BC – Tar 3000 BC – The ziggurat, or pyramid 2000 BC – Peaches 1700 BC – The windmill 1400 BC – The game of Backgammon 1400 BC – Zoroastrianism, the oldest known religion in the world 576 BC – The first universal declaration of human rights (predating the Magna Carta by one millennium) 521 BC – The game of Polo 500 BC – The world’s oldest staple or fastener 500 BC – The first Taxation system 500 BC – The World’s first courier post also called the “Royal Road” 500 BC – The introduction of domesticated chicken into Europe 500 BC – The first cultivation of spinach 400 BC – The refrigerator 400 BC – Ice Cream 250 BC – The world’s first batteries 250 BC – The Suez Canal 271 AD – The first teaching hospital 700 AD – Biscuits 762 AD – They designed Baghdad 864 AD – Surgical spirit 980 AD – Avicenna, the foundation of modern Medicine 1000 AD – The introduction of paper in the West 1207 AD – And… Poetry
My country has Iran’s thousands of years of history, how many has yours?
Iran and its beautiful architecture, and impressively long record of advanced civilization. Iranians were building centers of culture and writing poetry twenty centuries before the first Anglo-Americans were fighting over who would get to eat the last serving of charred possum.
Laleh is indeed Iranian, for I have heard the final paragraph in a similar version from other Persians: “We were drinking wine and writing poetry while the Arabs were eating cockroaches in the desert.”
The US has thousands of years of history, most prehistoric. It took a long time for people to cross into the Americas. But “mine is bigger than yours” is a distraction.
I would love to visit Iran (Tehran, Isfahan, Qom, Tabriz, and Bandar Abbas), but I do not want to fund the mullahs. I recall Iranians returning to Iran after the revolution; how many were killed andor had their children sent to the front with a plastic key to open the gates of paradise while walking across minefields?
I have met Iranians abroad, in East Asia, who refuse to talk politics. But of those who will, I have yet to meet one who has anything good to say about the mullahs. They might note that Iranian history ended about 1207, as yours did. They enjoy the LA Iranians’ TV and radio that undermines the mullahs. I have heard a few even wish that the US had continued right into Iran from Iraq, “because we’re too weak to free ourselves of the mullahs.” Meanwhile Iran continues to hemorrhage talent.
Honestly I wish the best for Iran, and that means getting rid of the mullahs and bazaaris.
Laleh: I’ll give you that once Persia was a great civilization — but it was a totalitarian one that was rightly resisted (and successfully) by the Greeks. No one would ever consider the Persian Empire the friend of liberty. Moreover, since Islam, it’s done basically nothing positive or worthwhile – other than a bit of poetry. But, even the Germans write great poetry….
You guys have a hard on for the CIA’s helping the Pahlavis. OK, but you bordered on the USSR and that was during the Cold War. In any case, the Shah was a whole lot better for Iran and the Iranian people than the mullahs ever were. Women had rights, the country made economic progress. It wasn’t democratic, to be sure, but neither was it nearly so repressive as the current regime.
From the revolution, and your ACT OF WAR in seizing American hostages, your country has been the enemy of civilization, and whatever we have done to oppose it has been a good thing.
Wow Islamic agents already posting.They must have you work 24/7 but your mullahs should have no fear, Obama will do nothing and that’s unfortunate. Now Lala please go ahead and throw up all over yourself. (:
To 8. Roger Godby:
Unlike those who live outside and have zero clue about the realities I actually LIVE in Iran.
I f*cking hate the mullahs. I wish Shah was still in power, but I’m a patriot and I would never EVER accept a foreign invader as my friend and ally, especially one that wants to demonize and dehumanize my fellow countrymen to suit their hawkish interests.
Perhaps I have over reacted about the mine is bigger than yours thing, for that I’m sorry. I got pissed off for a sec at the bomb bomb Iran guy. Honestly, wouldnt you be if you were in my position?
10 David . . . You’re the reason Republicans got shoved aside.
Marsha,
Let me get my “0″bombster mask on and I’ll be right over…
“The thought of the Iranians with nuclear weapons is simply unacceptable…”
The thought of any nation with nuclear weapons should be unaccetable to everyone, but sadly, it isn’t.
sheesh you are the reason the terrorist mullahs will have nukes. You sheesh too much.
7 Laleh . . . yeah, but . . . but . . . oh yeah . . . well . . . what about . . . uh . . . and then there’s . . . uh . . . SUCK ON THIS! Next time make an argument instead of just spewing your commie crap! We . . . Deal . . . With . . . Facts.
“I f*cking hate the mullahs. I wish Shah was still in power, but I’m a patriot and I would never EVER accept a foreign invader as my friend and ally, especially one that wants to demonize and dehumanize my fellow countrymen to suit their hawkish interests.”
OK. So, what are you willing to do to give the rest of the world the comfort it needs that Iran can be trusted not to develop nuclear weapons and try to use them?
I knew quite a number of Iranians in the US both before 1979 and after. I liked most of them. I even dated a Persian woman briefly.
Honestly, I have no desire to bomb Iran into the stone age, and would be sorry for the tens of millions of Iranian deaths that would be the ultimate result of the mullahs getting the bomb and then using it on the Israelis. If the Iranian people were to throw the mullahs out and create a government that would behave like a civilized nation, play well with others, stop supporting terrorism abroad, and have reasonable safeguards against acquiring nuclear weapons, I would be perfectly happy to leave Iran alone to go about its business.
You might ask why you should have to do these things. Simple, given your whack-job regime (which you admit to hating) does not behave rationally or play well with others, if Iran gets the bomb or even gets much closer to it, the Israelis are going to do something about it. And a whole lot of Iranians — and, no doubt Israelis — are going to get killed. I think that would be a tragedy. But, I see absolutely no indication that the Iranian people will do anything about the mullahs. The default cannot be that because no one wants a war, the mullahs get nuclear weapons.
Laleh, you can brag all about your countries past glories but the Persians have given little to the world for the past few hundred years, and the only thing we’ve gotten from Iran since the Mullahs took over is terrorism.
Speaking of delusions, Neocomrade R. ‘Kahlili’ must be mad (or extremely badly mentored) to expect to get anywhere with the militant extremists of the GOP but not burn them even a single word of incense about their Sole Remainin’ Hyperpower and their self-wunnerfulness and self-indispensability more generally.
Anybody with half a grain of worldly wisdom would lay on the flattery with a dumptruck.
Happy days.
All the Iranians I know of want the mullahs out even if it means for us to take military action. I have respect for Laleh and her not wanting war and destruction for her country but there are no other options. The mullahs are on a path of destruction and the sooner we address that the better for the world and the Iranians.
sheesh, facts? like how you’ve turned Iraq and Afghanistan into living hell for the civillians? Those facts you mean? Keep up the great job oh civililized ones.
17. Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!:
Much thanks to your policies, the mullahs are stronger than ever.
a) supporting saddam (your best buddy remember?) in iran-iraq war and legitimising their power
b) supporting sanctions and embargos on iran and giving the revolutionary guards infinite power to roam around in the black market and put monopoly over our economy
c) keep threatening to bomb iran and change its regime so they can crack down on our, minority, women and gay right activists
d) getting rid of saddam – even tho he was our mortal enemy- but that opened new doors for the mullahs
e) giving green light to Israel to bomb Lebanon and Gaza which further isolated the moderates and brought about pro-Islamist supporters
keep doing the great job that you always seem to be doing and they’ll remain in power forever… until they get ahold of the bomb and you blow us all up into pieces, kill our family members and if we get angry at you and try to fight back you will call us terrorists because we were against your invasion from the start and lost loved ones.
keep playing the victim card… live in your fantasy land for the majority of the world population has experienced nothing but evil from the american governments throughout the years. heck your America was built on ethnic cleansing of the Indians… which is why you have no problem with Israel doing abit of their own ethnic cleansing in the middle-east. that pretty much explains your entire history doesn’t it?
Again, you got me pissed off… rant over.
Persia’s struggle against Byzantium was only an extension of its previous unconclusive struggle against the ancient greeks, who managed to keep them at bay in spite of their great numeric handicap.
In the long term, who prevailed? The west is the ultimate heir to the greek logic, later extended by the judeo-christian ethics. On the other hand, the persians were conquered by the arabs, and in some sense became an islamic nation, although don’t tell this to the iranians, they will laugh at you.
Today’s paradox is the islamist mullahs holding the rest of the nation hostage of its jihadist tyranny. Nothing is ever settled in this vast territory. The mullahs are following the ancient dream of the ultimate dominance of the persian empire in the name of islam, which is not even a persian doctrine, but an arabic import if it should be couched in polite terms.
The massive exodus of talent and the restlessness of the iranians (most of them under age 30) indicate the precarious nature of the theocracy, but we will never find out for sure if we continue to play nice with the tyrants instead of backing the dissidents.
So the question of “who prevailed?” is still opened, unnecessarily. An irresolute US president might well concede the werstern assets in the name of “understanding and respect”.
When talking to the congressional republicans our president says “I won”; When talking to the mullahs he is in effect saying “you turn, gentlemen”. And this is the man who took the oath of office to “preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united sates”
Are we falling to an attack of cultural suicide?
Fred:
How many Iranians you know who actually LIVE INSIDE IRAN? Or are they all monarchists who live in comfy expensive LA houses and talk as if they actually have a clue whats going on inside Iran.
Please come here for yourself and see what its really like.
Sorry for my last post… I get carried away alot. Politics gets on my nerves. As if I dont have enough stress already I have to worry about this shit.
Laleh,
A bit off topic but what do you think about the way Muslims treat women?
See link:
Chesler Chronicles
Please comment over there. I’d be curious about your take on that article since you are living under Islamic rule.
Laleh,
Many of them travel back and forth and have relatives there. I have to admit,you are sounding like one of those Islamists/agents of the government!
Lelah:
You have nothing to fear from the United States under President Obama. However, since your leadership continues to threaten the nuclear armed state of Israel with extermination you face a much more lethal threat. Benjamin Netanyahu is made of much sterner stuff then our weakling President and when push comes to shove he will annihilate Iran if that is what he has to do. Because of this you should avoid any areas of military or economic significance less you suffer the effects of the inevitable Israeli nuclear strike. Your only hope is to depose the mullahs and as I think you are aware is not very likely to happen.
And please don’t give me your BS about what you were in the 5th Century BC. Americans are part of Western Civilization that goes back to Greece and Rome. We out competed you and the Islam-stunted Arabs and expanded our culture around the world. Obama and his party may be weak and cowardly but there are many American Spartans ready to defend our liberties.
Laleh: now you piss me off. You can’t expect the US to be nice to Iran the way the mullahs behave. The world’s a messy place, and great powers have to make choices between “bad” and “really terrible”. In failing to make the bad choice to take out the mullahs early on, now we’re faced with “really terrible” and “even more terrible”. It’s sad, because if Iran gets the bomb and uses it, they you’re probably going to end up dead when the Israelis or some other Western power retaliates. You want to play in the big league and have a seat at the top table, then behave like grown ups. You say you hate the mullahs, but you won’t do diddly about it. At least we Americans (my forebearers anyway) had the sand to fight the British and beat them – you guys are two bit complainers who want the world to feel sorry for your. No dice. Either get rid of the mullahs or face the consequences.
Laleh, I met a few back in ’79 (on a University Campus). They were in a bind because of the revolution and the hostage crisis. (They weren’t real popular here given the hostage crisis) But they were decent people. It was a long time ago but I did spend considerable time talking to them. It’s tough when your world is ripped apart.
I don’t know if they ever did make it home.
#3 Marsha
You can’t be f-’n serious right?
Laleh has an interested take on things. Listening to him is like listening to a Stalinist complain about the crimes of the czars. Yes, there were crimes, but nothing what came after.
For the past 30 years, Iran has been a scourge on the world stage. I should note, also, that while the U.S. supplied Iraq with some armaments and intelligence, it also helped Iran during the war, too. The official U.S. policy was “both sides deserve to lose. Let’s see if we can arrange it.” Then we supplied intelligence to both sides, depending which way the war was tipping.
I don’t recall Reagan threatening to nuke Iran. It never would’ve happened. What stopped Iranian terrorism temporarily were two things: (1) When we accidentally shot down a commercial jet liner over Iran (which we apologized and paid for), and (2) when Iran and the U.S. mixed it up for an afternoon and we sank their navy. The Iranians apparently couldn’t believe we accidentally shot down that plane. And they were a little surprised when we sank their navy. So they were quiet for a while.
The first requirement for “Nationhood” is to insure the survival od the state, and the population of same. Israel has survived almost 70 years of constant attacks by Arab “neighbors” by taking their threats seriously. Iran may find this out if they continue to threaten Israel.
I suspect that the current regieme in Iran is using Israel to cover up their problems, and divert populat attention from same. Problem is, no one can be certain and Israel has tpo assume they are serious about their intent to “wipe Israel off the map”. Keep taking like that, and Israel will have no option but to attack, and eliminate the threat.
I wonder what Obama is going to do with North Korea or Iran other than asking them to be nice and gentle.
Given the disgusting nature of Iran and the Islamic cancer at heart of Iran’s horribleness — it’s shocking to see the viciousness of various Iranian posters above. They seem to be stuck in some kind of schizophrenic mania, meandering between preposterous bragging about (questionable and supposed) Iranian ‘accomplishments’ from thousands of years ago, to explaining away the current sewage system of Islamic fascism which engulfs their nation. Worse, they seem perfectly comfortable lashing out at the West, and America in particular with a long list of insane grievances, all to explain away their staggering and ugly failings in the world.
3. Marsha
Obviously your 12th Imam has arrived in the form of B. Hussein Obama
The Bible makes it clear that Iran will join forces with Russia and attack Israel. Stopping Tehran from building or acquiring nuclear weapons is essential for the stability and security of the Middle East and the entire world.
Delia,
I’m a woman with 2 kids who is worried about their future. And I should know how we are treated in Iran, no?
Some of you people are disgusting for wanting to bomb us. In my eyes, you are no better than the terrorists you are fighting right now.
And dont give me about this islamists crap. I dont have the right to be angry at your policies towards iran over the years? If i am you’ll call me an islamist or stalinist? I’m not even a muslim for godsake.
And The good old USA can do no wrong? I’m sitting here complaining about my own government yet you people keep talking about how great America and must use its force to topple the mullahs and the heck if some Iranians get killed in the process (like you have done in afghanistan and iraq).
How do you call that civillized?
And look at Jeff and his bible. I cant believe that you people still believe in the religion crap.
Lelah’s posts make me wonder if the Mullahs are taking astroturfing lessons from David Axelrod. She sounds like a poster who says “I voted Republican all my life…” followed by a serie of arguments that are right out of the dailykos.
I should hope that I sound like someone who is not in love with carpet bombing people to solve issues. Most of you seem to have the lust for it.
laleh:
Sorry if you do not like some of us who see the world and it’s threats in a different light. Nothing will work with iran, no amount of money, deals, compromises etc.. none will work. What are you going to do, send jimmy the “coward” Carter over to iranistan to bend over to negotiate withe mullahs? Yeah, he did a swell job during his term. The mullah obamaham is another Carter, maybe even worse. I hope Israel takes out iran’s nuclear workings, and goes after syria as well. No nation has had to endure 60 plus years of constant warfare and terrorist attacks, like Israel has. iran’s meddling in the middle east, their hatred of Israel borders on nazi Germany.
Sure, the USA has made mistakes in the past, what nation has not? That does not make it necessary to take the low road obambi has done; apologizng, appeasing, groveling and working from a position of weakness and being intimidated by our enemies. I would rather see a bombed iran, their nuclear facilities wrecked
for as long as possible. A nuclear armed islamofacist state like iran is a threat to world stability and peace. How dare you even try to compare the USA to islamic history, violence, and deaths to millions of innocents since the 7th century. Sharia law is evil, islam is an ideology based “religion” that persecutes women, is intolerant of any other religion, hates Jews and people of the book and I could go on and on. Sure, you can get PO’d all you want, you can call me names if you want and you won’t be the first or last. Islamofacism is the evil of our times. I would be careful about accusing Israel of “ethnic cleansing” when islam is an expertt when it comes to that. Just ask the Armenians of Turkey.
“Three cheers for the Mullah obamaham.”
1) a cheer for for being am embarrassment to the country he was elected to serve. My fiends in the military cannot stand him and are mad at
how he apologized and sucked up to our enemies.
2) a cheer for appointing racists, anti-semites, known Jew haters into his cabinet, and moving to support the UN of islamic states. That is all the UN is anymore, a worthless and racist organization.
3) a cheer for gutting our military and intelligence agencies and threatening to bring these brave defenders our our freedom to trial.
An extra cheer for wanting to bring the Gitmo Band of TERRORISTS to the USA. if you like obuma so much why don’t you volunteer to have these scums move in with you and your family, or your neighborhood?
A pathetic, weak, socialistacrat president who can, will and is ruining this country for the forseeable future. Three cheers for bombing iran, syria, afghanistan and pakistan. Keep drinking your KOOL AID and eating that toxic stew of disversity and multiculturalism.
The gitmo band of terrorists were once friends of the dear ronald hollywood actor ragon remember? http://nikhasnan.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/c12820-32.jpg
oh those freedom fighters!
In terms of islamists killing people, your bombs have killed more innocents than they ever will! nice try though.
In post 40 this Laleh person has confirmed that she/he is a Mullah-sponsored astroturfer. I think we can ignore him/her now. These are not the arguments of a opponent of the mullahs but someone who echos their words.
What a character this Laleh person is! Its so funny the mullahs are monitoring this site.
If Iran one bright day regains her past glory, it wont be thanks to cowards like Laleh. America is continuously doing the heavy lifting (not thanx to the Dems). The least people like Laleh could do is to support America’s efforts when an opportunity comes and side with her real Friends: i.e. Israel. Instead, she has chosen Palestine and her own new rulers. Islam has destroyed the memory of Iran’s past. So much that, to the world, History has started with the Greeks, not the Persians, while in fact they contributed to the success and concept of America. As one nation under God. And freedom of religion. Thanks to 1400 years of Arab ruling, none of it is recognized nor remembered.
When you choose to live in a country run by fascists and barbarians where torture and rape is common practice inside its prisons, if you have a minimum sense of dignity and fairness, you must know that nothing can ever protect you because destruction will come sooner or later. If America doesn’t intervene, it will eventually start from your own government. WW3.
I lived 12 years in Tehran myself. Until 4 years ago. I’m Persian, female and understand right from wrong. I’ll do my part to inspire more people inside the country to side with their true friends. Not like the world did when Saddam was to be removed.
Persians should know better. Stop getting your news from CNN and the NYT.
Dear Laleh, I have US and Israeli citizenship and agree that violent action is the only way to deal with Iran’s nuclear program. That said I respect your anger, frustration and wit.
I hope that the Mullah’s fall soon for all our sake’s.
Lala you shut your mouth about Reagan. I bet it really hurts the kicking ass he gave you and the mullahs. It must still hurt.
jerryofva, keep telling yourself that, maybe if your bombs kill one or two of my members of family i might turn into a mullah supporter overnight.
put yourselves in our shoes for one second. lets not be selfish here.
Atleast Bob from Virginia is being understanding despite his hawkish stance.
AcidPoP, you want me to support the people who want to bomb my country? The same people who have turned Iraq into a ragin inferno? Afghanistan too?
What a great traitor you are to your fellow hamvatans. I guess you dont have relatives who were chemical bombed in Khuzestan. you have not felts ad experiences up close the horrors of war. I dont blame you just know this that you are a traitor to your country. Heck, even the Americans must laught at you.
you are being idaelistic… like the neonconservatives who ponder they can turn the middle-east in to a heaven over night with their bomb droppings. no matter what you like it or not, the majority of iran (no not the tehranis, the ones in the rural areas) are conservative religious people like the ones in america but muslim. you cant force them to change over night.. it has to be a gradual change… I’m in the minority who wants a secular democratic iran but knows that it wont be achieved by the barel of a gun or bomb. I have family members over seas… they ask me why im not out of iran, but I chose to stay here unlike certain people who chickend out. I want to fix my iran myself without the need of foriegn invaders. We have had enough of that over ht years. if you people over seas supported our movements instead of constantly bashing the mullahs and placing collective sanctions on our asses, basically doing nothing useful we would be better off. your LA TVs are destructive force…
I found this site through google news page. I thought sensible people lived here.. looks like i am wrong. i might go else where.
peace! even to the ones who want to dehumanize me and then drop bombs on me.
long live mossadeq!
Good luck trying to topple the savages that control Iran. I know I never would have the courage myself. I’m not crazy. I couldn’t face my fate. And I wouldn’t want you or any other young fellow iranians to do it for me neither. I know what happens to anyone who confront the mullahs: horror.
Our only chance is America and Israel, since we cannot count on the UN and the so-called international community to declare the mullah outlaws and criminals and bring them to justice. The bureaucrats that govern the globe need a good spanking. They are the reason so many thieves and thugs are in power.
Be sure I’ll try my best to bring the change the world needs thru the power of words, not guns. I am well armed and my testimony has already been written and spread. All we need at this point is to make it public. And I don’t control that part. Besides, I’m too shy to expose myself anyway. But the work is done.
God Bless Us! as Mark Levin would say.
(Not that he knows me)
And no I don’t watch LA TVs. I don’t live in LA and I don’t watch their TV.
Laleh: NIce try and you have failed miserably.
I suggest you read the following book:
“The Legacy of Jihad, Islamic Holy war and the Fate of No-Muslims” By Andrew Bostom. I recommend this book for anyone who wants a clear, concise and ACCURATE history of islamic jihad.
Then come talk to us about how many MILLIONS of innocent people have died under the curse of islam from the 7th century up to the present.
You cannot even compare the what the USA has done to the violence and deaths under islam.
The Armenians slaughtered by the turks is just the tip of the iceberg. I have read the qur’an, hadith and suras and I read and study everyday
Call me a Neocon, whatever. I would love to see a peaceful solution but that does not seem possible with islam, again proven by islam’s
own history. Over 90% of current global conflicts involve islam, Laleh. islam is still stuck in the stone age of the 7th century and sharia law. What has islam given the world lately??? NOTHING but violence, persecution and death. In a perfect world we could all get along and respect one another and that would be great. But when one ideology, religion keeps forcing the issue and forcing itself through violence, death and intimidation, then it is time to stand up and fight back. That is what alot of us are doing.
There is no peace within islam, and with islam there can be no peace.
PatriotUSA, if we cant have peace with islam then I suggest ethnically cleansing the 1.5 Billion muslims worldwide. Lets get away with this evil islam once and for all. Afterall, we are all the righteous ones who dont do no evil, right?
As for the numbers game… you still live under a rock dont you?
You want to know how many chritians killed? http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2002/10/how-many-people-have-been-killed-by.php
the numbers simply dwarves that of muslims. They cant even compete with you guys.
John:
Under a rock, wow that’s really harsh. Hope you did ot hurt yourself thinking that one up by yourself. I you have the moxi to read the book on islamic jihad that I mentioned in my last post it will pretty much crumble your number, jerk. As for your we don’t do evil comment, go back and read my posts again. It will be coming down to a war with islam as any “peace” with islam is based on lies and deceit. If bothers you tough because I for one would like to islam beaten once and for all. I have no plans on my wife and daughter being forced to wear a habib or headscraf in my lifetime. If you want to submit to the violence and death that is islam, go right ahead.
Ad hominum attacks are neither attractive nor useful. Consider some simple facts, instead.
Since a nuclear-armed Iran is an existential threat to Israel, they will act. The IDF has said they have the capability to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons program, and they will do so by force unless it is otherwise ended. Even the hopeless CSIS knows Israel can, will, and must destroy the Iranian threat; why CSIS continues to push for talks that will end only when Iran has a nuclear weapon is a mystery.
For her part, Secretary Clinton says that she will pursue “unyielding diplomacy,” whatever that means. Such nonsense statements are good clues as to the confusion, ignorance, and lack of will inside the Obama administration.
Remember, an invasion is not necessary. The Israelis will do it from the air (and perhaps a little ground sabotage) in a week. The United States can do it from the air and sea in a few days. Together, we could do it over a weekend. How? Read “Iran Covenant.”
Iran needs to be stopped. It’s within your power to help.
Right now Iran is in trouble economically, mostly due to the recent collapse in the price of oil. Now is the time to hit them in their wallets.
* Get in touch with every business you know of that is doing business with Iran and let them know that they’ve lost you as a customer until they cease their connections with Iran.
* Boycott every business that does business with Iran.
* Send copies of your correspondence to the media and your favorite blogs.
* Get the word out – Forward this to as many people as you can, post this on websites, blogs, facebook, etc.
Go here for a list of businesses working with Iran
Lets stop Iran now!
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