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		<title>By: Pajamas Media » The GOP Gets Off to a Bad Start</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pajamas Media » The GOP Gets Off to a Bad Start There is still too much Rockefeller Republican influence in the GOP. If I were in charge of the Republican National Committee, the first thing I would do is move headquarters out of the Beltway and out of the reach of K Street to a &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pajamas Media » The GOP Gets Off to a Bad Start There is still too much Rockefeller Republican influence in the GOP. If I were in charge of the Republican National Committee, the first thing I would do is move headquarters out of the Beltway and out of the reach of K Street to a &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-153902</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many Republicans, once they were elected, turned out to be RINOs (Republicans In Name Only), not true blue conservatives.  They embraced liberal ideas such as No Child Left Behind and MediCare prescription drug coverage.  They spent like drunken sailors.  Most recently, Republicans embraced bailouts instead of taking steps toward abolishing programs and allowing the marketplace do its job.  RINO means the variety of Republicans earlier generations called blueblood, country club, establishment, me too, moderate, and Rockefeller. 

If Republicans are serious about winning future elections, they must embrace ideas of Ronald Reagan and true blue conservatives:  Cutting the size and scope of government, lower taxes, energy independence, strengthening the family, protecting human life, getting control of the borders, greater individual freedom, and national defense second to none.

If people want liberals, they will vote for Democrats, not &quot;Democrat Lite&quot; Republicans.

There is still too much Rockefeller Republican influence in the GOP.  If I were in charge of the Republican National Committee, the first thing I would do is move headquarters out of the Beltway and out of the reach of K Street to a nearby middle class suburban community with some semblance of the real America.  The pricey antiques and art objects would be sold.  The gourmet coffee service would be discontinued.  Headquarters would be equipped with mass market products products from large chain stores or over the internet.  All employees and volunteers would be instructed in how to deal with &quot;Mr. Moneybags&quot;, an elderly Rockefeller Republican who wastes no time in scurrying to conservative winners and lecturing them to &quot;Get away from those right-wing nuts&quot; and &quot;Move to the middle&quot;.

I have seen plenty of Republicans lose, not because of lack of money, but because the conservative base would not vote for them.  I have also seen well-heeled RINOs lose to conservatives with long lists of small contributors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many Republicans, once they were elected, turned out to be RINOs (Republicans In Name Only), not true blue conservatives.  They embraced liberal ideas such as No Child Left Behind and MediCare prescription drug coverage.  They spent like drunken sailors.  Most recently, Republicans embraced bailouts instead of taking steps toward abolishing programs and allowing the marketplace do its job.  RINO means the variety of Republicans earlier generations called blueblood, country club, establishment, me too, moderate, and Rockefeller. </p>
<p>If Republicans are serious about winning future elections, they must embrace ideas of Ronald Reagan and true blue conservatives:  Cutting the size and scope of government, lower taxes, energy independence, strengthening the family, protecting human life, getting control of the borders, greater individual freedom, and national defense second to none.</p>
<p>If people want liberals, they will vote for Democrats, not &#8220;Democrat Lite&#8221; Republicans.</p>
<p>There is still too much Rockefeller Republican influence in the GOP.  If I were in charge of the Republican National Committee, the first thing I would do is move headquarters out of the Beltway and out of the reach of K Street to a nearby middle class suburban community with some semblance of the real America.  The pricey antiques and art objects would be sold.  The gourmet coffee service would be discontinued.  Headquarters would be equipped with mass market products products from large chain stores or over the internet.  All employees and volunteers would be instructed in how to deal with &#8220;Mr. Moneybags&#8221;, an elderly Rockefeller Republican who wastes no time in scurrying to conservative winners and lecturing them to &#8220;Get away from those right-wing nuts&#8221; and &#8220;Move to the middle&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have seen plenty of Republicans lose, not because of lack of money, but because the conservative base would not vote for them.  I have also seen well-heeled RINOs lose to conservatives with long lists of small contributors.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama gets off to a &#8220;bad start&#8221; &#171; Our Twisted Reality!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama gets off to a &#8220;bad start&#8221; &#171; Our Twisted Reality!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 14, 2008 by Cat Wrangler    Monday, Jennifer Rubin wrote a column called “The GOP Gets Off to a Bad Start.” Let’s take a look at the other side of the issue. It seems like our president-elect is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 14, 2008 by Cat Wrangler    Monday, Jennifer Rubin wrote a column called “The GOP Gets Off to a Bad Start.” Let’s take a look at the other side of the issue. It seems like our president-elect is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bobby b</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151770</link>
		<dc:creator>bobby b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eisenstat said she was clearly unprepared . . . . &quot;  (by Cedarford.)
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Uh, Cedy? Why is it that so very many of the Democrats&#039; scream-it-five-hundred-times-on-the-internet Big New Talking Points turn out to be complete lies?  Is it because there&#039;s really no substance to your positions at all?

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&quot;You know that story about how Sarah Palin didn&#039;t understand that Africa is a continent?

MSNBC thought it knew the source of that tidbit, originally leaked on Fox News Channel. It was, according to the station, a John McCain adviser named Martin Eisenstadt, senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy.

One problem: There is no Harding Institute. There is no Martin Eisenstadt.

They are both figments of the very active imaginations of a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, according to the New York Time.

How embarrassing.&quot;
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http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2803</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eisenstat said she was clearly unprepared . . . . &#8221;  (by Cedarford.)<br />
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<p>Uh, Cedy? Why is it that so very many of the Democrats&#8217; scream-it-five-hundred-times-on-the-internet Big New Talking Points turn out to be complete lies?  Is it because there&#8217;s really no substance to your positions at all?</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
&#8220;You know that story about how Sarah Palin didn&#8217;t understand that Africa is a continent?</p>
<p>MSNBC thought it knew the source of that tidbit, originally leaked on Fox News Channel. It was, according to the station, a John McCain adviser named Martin Eisenstadt, senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy.</p>
<p>One problem: There is no Harding Institute. There is no Martin Eisenstadt.</p>
<p>They are both figments of the very active imaginations of a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, according to the New York Time.</p>
<p>How embarrassing.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p><a href="http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2803" rel="nofollow">http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2803</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151759</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: Duncan Stuart
RE: Changing the Subject

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;But like any weapon, that doesn’t make it safe in the hands of just old anybody.&lt;/i&gt; -- Duncan Stuart&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again...the idiot comes out.

Just because you disagree with it doesn&#039;t mean it is nonsense. As obviously Sun Tzu has been around a LOT longer than YOUR sense of &#039;wisdom&#039;. And yet you deny it.

Such is the nature of an idiot.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. The so-called mainstream media is still a viper in the heart of public opinion. And nothing you&#039;ve said disproves that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: Duncan Stuart<br />
RE: Changing the Subject</p>
<blockquote><p><i>But like any weapon, that doesn’t make it safe in the hands of just old anybody.</i> &#8212; Duncan Stuart</p></blockquote>
<p>Again&#8230;the idiot comes out.</p>
<p>Just because you disagree with it doesn&#8217;t mean it is nonsense. As obviously Sun Tzu has been around a LOT longer than YOUR sense of &#8216;wisdom&#8217;. And yet you deny it.</p>
<p>Such is the nature of an idiot.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
P.S. The so-called mainstream media is still a viper in the heart of public opinion. And nothing you&#8217;ve said disproves that.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Stuart</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151639</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck. Sure, Sun Tzu is mandatory reading for many. But like any weapon, that doesn&#039;t make it safe in the hands of just old anybody. The secret, is to know when and where to use the right words, and the right weapons. Your approach appears to be grab a book, any book, and beat others over the head with it. Not exactly productive.

Now, if you&#039;ll excuse me, I have better things to do than to waste time conversing with you. You can call me names after I&#039;ve gone if it makes you feel better.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck. Sure, Sun Tzu is mandatory reading for many. But like any weapon, that doesn&#8217;t make it safe in the hands of just old anybody. The secret, is to know when and where to use the right words, and the right weapons. Your approach appears to be grab a book, any book, and beat others over the head with it. Not exactly productive.</p>
<p>Now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I have better things to do than to waste time conversing with you. You can call me names after I&#8217;ve gone if it makes you feel better.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151491</link>
		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Young people are flocking to the Democratic Party.&quot;

&quot;But voters under 30 years of age were still the same 11 percent of the vote that they were in 2004. The surge of young voters, which was supposed to animate Obama’s rise, failed to happen.
The turnout efforts of groups like ACORN made a huge difference. Ultimately, it was the difference in voter turnout among Republicans and Democrats that, in addition to the higher black vote, elected Obama.&quot;-Dick Morris 11-11-2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Young people are flocking to the Democratic Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But voters under 30 years of age were still the same 11 percent of the vote that they were in 2004. The surge of young voters, which was supposed to animate Obama’s rise, failed to happen.<br />
The turnout efforts of groups like ACORN made a huge difference. Ultimately, it was the difference in voter turnout among Republicans and Democrats that, in addition to the higher black vote, elected Obama.&#8221;-Dick Morris 11-11-2008</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151467</link>
		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 &amp; #2 Best post! (All conservative post&#039;s are good tho&#039;;)

&quot;Go celebrate. Play with your kids. Invite friends over.
Head over to the local Holiday Inn with the big bright sign that says, “WELCOME IDIOTS”. Celebrate your pitiable pyrric victory till the cows come home. Or your wives. Whichever comes first.&quot; Best line!

92. Jim Baker Good post!
&quot;The country isn’t shifting leftward because of any preference toward socialism, it is shifting leftward because it is being educated by a bunch of leftists, who are generally leftists because they are failures in the marketplace.&quot; 
The free thinkers are &quot;taking over&quot;? We&#039;ll just have to educate ourselves beyond them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 &amp; #2 Best post! (All conservative post&#8217;s are good tho&#8217;;)</p>
<p>&#8220;Go celebrate. Play with your kids. Invite friends over.<br />
Head over to the local Holiday Inn with the big bright sign that says, “WELCOME IDIOTS”. Celebrate your pitiable pyrric victory till the cows come home. Or your wives. Whichever comes first.&#8221; Best line!</p>
<p>92. Jim Baker Good post!<br />
&#8220;The country isn’t shifting leftward because of any preference toward socialism, it is shifting leftward because it is being educated by a bunch of leftists, who are generally leftists because they are failures in the marketplace.&#8221;<br />
The free thinkers are &#8220;taking over&#8221;? We&#8217;ll just have to educate ourselves beyond them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Pelto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151383</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Pelto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO: Duncan Stuart
RE: Sun Tzu

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sun Tzu is a bit of a “rent a quote’ to throw at most situations.&lt;/i&gt; -- Duncan Stuart&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There ya go, again....

Sun Tzu was mandatory reading at the Infantry School when I went through there in the 1970s for Infantry Officer Basic Course and 1980s for Infantry Officer Advanced Course. 

I&#039;ve counseled you about behaving like an idiot. But, as being an &#039;idiot&#039;, you just don&#039;t learn.

RE: Reframing the Question

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I think you try to reframe the question by using the wrong metaphors.&lt;/i&gt; -- Duncan Stuart&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Think again....

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Idiot, n., Informal for a stupid person.]

P.S. My working definition of &#039;stupid&#039; is someone who is ignorant and proud of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO: Duncan Stuart<br />
RE: Sun Tzu</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Sun Tzu is a bit of a “rent a quote’ to throw at most situations.</i> &#8212; Duncan Stuart</p></blockquote>
<p>There ya go, again&#8230;.</p>
<p>Sun Tzu was mandatory reading at the Infantry School when I went through there in the 1970s for Infantry Officer Basic Course and 1980s for Infantry Officer Advanced Course. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve counseled you about behaving like an idiot. But, as being an &#8216;idiot&#8217;, you just don&#8217;t learn.</p>
<p>RE: Reframing the Question</p>
<blockquote><p><i>I think you try to reframe the question by using the wrong metaphors.</i> &#8212; Duncan Stuart</p></blockquote>
<p>Think again&#8230;.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chuck(le)<br />
[Idiot, n., Informal for a stupid person.]</p>
<p>P.S. My working definition of &#8216;stupid&#8217; is someone who is ignorant and proud of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Stuart</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gop-gets-off-to-a-bad-start/#comment-151361</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, I think you try to reframe the question by using the wrong metaphors. Sun Tzu is a bit of a &quot;rent a quote&#039; to throw at most situations. A bit like Mao used his little red book - from which you could find anything you want to support any argument on any subject.

I&#039;ll stick with my opinion - you haven&#039;t illuminated a good alternative stance. So long as the GOP keeps attacking the complex amalgam of mainstream media they&#039;re going to make life even rockier for themselves. 

Your views are very binary. You treat a wide swathe of media as if they are one enemy. the result: a head on attack instead of a more subtle use of different strategies. When you look you&#039;ll find quite a few Sun Tzu quotes that explain the problem. 

While you&#039;re at it, you might like to look up a few books on anger management as well. Here&#039;s one: Don&#039;t Bite the Hook: Finding Freedom from Anger, Resentment, and Other Destructive Emotions: Library Edition by Pema Chodron.

I&#039;m sure a few of us posters on this website would be happy to chip in.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, I think you try to reframe the question by using the wrong metaphors. Sun Tzu is a bit of a &#8220;rent a quote&#8217; to throw at most situations. A bit like Mao used his little red book &#8211; from which you could find anything you want to support any argument on any subject.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick with my opinion &#8211; you haven&#8217;t illuminated a good alternative stance. So long as the GOP keeps attacking the complex amalgam of mainstream media they&#8217;re going to make life even rockier for themselves. </p>
<p>Your views are very binary. You treat a wide swathe of media as if they are one enemy. the result: a head on attack instead of a more subtle use of different strategies. When you look you&#8217;ll find quite a few Sun Tzu quotes that explain the problem. </p>
<p>While you&#8217;re at it, you might like to look up a few books on anger management as well. Here&#8217;s one: Don&#8217;t Bite the Hook: Finding Freedom from Anger, Resentment, and Other Destructive Emotions: Library Edition by Pema Chodron.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure a few of us posters on this website would be happy to chip in.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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