The Good Ship AGW Is Sinking; Still the Band Plays On
The United States and India this week discussed a memorandum to serve as the framework for bilateral global warming efforts. That will be an interesting document, because India has been adamant that developing countries — including, of course, India — must get a free ride in fighting the terrors of global warming. Prime Minister Singh hopes to get lots of U.S. investment in India’s economy while continuing to pump the demon carbon dioxide and its equivalents into the atmosphere. Much of this probably has more to do with the China warming offsets sought to be purchased by the Obama administration than with any realities of global warming, but then that’s smart diplomacy.
And the circus continues elsewhere.
The Italian foreign minister threatened that “[world leaders'] credibility could suffer if they failed to make concrete commitments at next month’s Copenhagen climate summit.”
Central American countries will demand $105 billion “from industrialized countries for damages caused by global warming. … We hope for a deal that is ethical and moral.”
Poland wants to sell $22 million worth of carbon credits to Ireland.
Those examples came from just five minutes spent online. There are many more.
Despite the hockey stick thrown into the gears of global warming by the recent involuntary disclosure of emails and other documents, it remains easy to find paeans to the devil (or god) of global warming. This, from the appropriately named Arizona Daily Sun, makes no note of the impact of the Sun or the recent iceberg of involuntary disclosures of some unfortunate untruths.
Such accounts are ubiquitous.
Some comment threads on blogs generally discount the significance of the disclosures, reflecting a belief that no matter how disreputable the “science” of global warming may be seen to be by some, the faith must be kept. Besides, the “reputable” scientists sort of speak in tongues and must be defended with religious fervor regardless of whether we understand them.
According to the New York Times:
The evidence pointing to a growing human contribution to global warming is so widely accepted that the hacked material is unlikely to erode the overall argument. However, the documents will undoubtedly raise questions about the quality of research on some specific questions and the actions of some scientists. …
Several scientists whose names appear in the e-mail messages said they merely revealed that scientists were human, and did nothing to undercut the body of research on global warming. “Science doesn’t work because we’re all nice,” said Gavin A. Schmidt, a climatologist at NASA whose e-mail exchanges with colleagues over a variety of climate studies were in the cache. “Newton may have been an ass, but the theory of gravity still works.”
If the ObamaCare debacle, the sour state of the economy, and the diminishing adulation now accorded President Obama do not kill cap and trade or any Copenhagen treaty, then the unsinkable Titanic may well be an appropriate metaphor for the United States.
Since when are Marxists stopped by reality and truth? This was expected. What is truly jaw dropping is the blackout from the PRAVDA press.
Starting with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2zaPCYgovg and http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechjudgmentatnuremberg1.html – history shows that too many do not learn from history.
Well I’ve written my Congress-critters, how about you?
It ain’t the tip of the iceberg no more. They now have the computer codes that show beyond a dought the data was cherry picked and manipulated by these frauds to show an increased temperature, where none existed. All government programs that relied on the IPCC data as proof of man caused global warming must be frozen immediately. Cap & Trade is dead. EPA must be put out of commission on this issue. We must investigate this fraud starting with what moron in government authorized 70 billion in funding to these frauds when they can’t predict climate anmy better than the farmers almanac. The socialist spin doctors in the main stream media are still in denial. You can see why they are going out of business. They are backing the wrong horse as usual.
Someone please tell me,
and pretend you are talking to a 6 year old?
If global warming is so catastrophic,
so well known and can be tasted and seen,
and time is so short until we all melt?
Why the hell would anyone need to fudge the charts and change the data?
Trolls Welcome!
Dan – Spot on. I think we all wonder how these people can mouth the same platitudes over and over again without sticking their collective heads out the window to notice that the earth has been cooling despite the increase in CO2. Of course now we have the e-mails and that should have given everyone pause, but no, they do not; like lemmings, they walk off the cliff; unfortunately they will take us with them. But I especially like your quote from the NYT (which Michelle Malkin has dubbed the New York Fishwrap): “The evidence pointing to a growing human contribution to global warming is so widely accepted that the hacked material is unlikely to erode the overall argument.” So, science is not a popularity contest. Epicycles anyone? Phlogiston anyone? etc.
“Science doesn’t work because we’re all nice,” said Gavin A. Schmidt, a climatologist at NASA whose e-mail exchanges with colleagues over a variety of climate studies were in the cache. “Newton may have been an ass, but the theory of gravity still works.”
So, can the the promoters of the AGW theory who see themselves as Newtons stand up? Lets count them…
Obama, despict what gore says, I would suggest you fire your adviser and skip copenhagen. The socialists are in denial and have not looked at the evidence, hoping it will just go away. Obama, it’s only going to get worse. Take my word, the AGW is the biggest hoax ever put forth on the american people. if you don’t see this coming your poll numbers can’t miss it.
The White House called Obama’s decision “a sign of his continuing commitment and leadership to find a global solution to the global threat of climate change.”
This is great political double speak. We can all be assured that the weather and the climate will change. The question is how to tax it. Take a known, add a boogeyman, predict a horrible future, offer a solution to an imaginary crisis, win a medal when the crisis does not materialize. Voo Doo science works.
Correction to my penultimate sentence @ #4: It should have read:
So, science is a popularity contest.
Since we all know that global warming is now a proven hoax when will Al Gore be taken to court for all the money he has cost this country? How many hundreds of thousands of children has he killed in Africa. Oh, the humanity. How much did Al Gore Profit from this hoax? O hear tell he worth 125 million all due to this hoax. I believe the term is FRAUD!
Why is he returning to Copenhagen? Is this the return of the Olympic Obama – the real story?
We need to know more about this -
Headlines
THE SCIENCE IS TRULY IN: GOD RESPONSIBLE FOR CLIMATE, NOT MANN
SKEPTICS NOTE THE REALITY OF MANN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING
ROTTEN FRAUDSTERS GATHER IN DENMARK
Mann et al claim that global warming is unprecedented. Yet they worked mightily behind the scenes to fudge the numbers and they still can’t make a convincing case. The past was a lot hotter than what’s occurred recently. Here’s information about past temperature studies that totally debunk Mann and his ‘frauding’ colleagues:
http://www.c3headlines.com/climate-history/
This one post, by one JoeBrownridge, at the Guardian, says it all:
“environmentalism will kill capitalism (which is totally unsustanible)
deal with it, its a matter of time.”
Just for fun, replace the word “evidence” with the word “bull***t” in the Lefties statements about AGW. It’s pretty funny!
We’ve gone through the looking glass. Abandon hope all who enter here. Do you actually think a society as sick as this one can be righted? No way. You better hope this really is the Book of Revelation cause that’s the only happy ending we could possibly get. Atheists are really down the creek without a paddle. Where we’re headed Nazi Germany would look like modern day Switzerland.
When science meets politics, it turns corrupt as the politicians have come to a desired conclusion for the scientists to “find.” Shameless. This should grow to consume the AGW movement until they shatter or do indeed drink the Kool-Aid. Unthinking eunuchs.
Sorry to nitpick — the Titanic didn’t sink on the 12th. It hit the iceberg on the 14th and sunk on the 15th.
11. Obamma Barrakk:
when will Al Gore be taken to court for all the money he has cost this country?
This is truly a good question. Big organizations have been prosecuted for less, and the lawyer who takes this case would get fabulously wealthy and famous. Richard Branson and Bono could also be named in the suit.
I bet John Edwards is wishing he didn’t have other commitments.
A link to a searchable database of the emails:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php.
see:
“If Global Warming Is a Lie, Will Green Investments Go Cold?”
November 24, 2009
also refer:
http://www.alfin2100.blogspot.com/
“ClimateGate: Pity the Fool Who Closes His Eyes….. “
Why don’t you arm yourself with some facts on climate change fundamentals.
From NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center:
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/ssn_predict_l.gif
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/Zurich_Color.pdf
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/
Other sources:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html as a great primer.
http://www.leif.org/research/ a treasure trove once you understand the basics.
And this is just funny!
http://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/predictions/
Unbelievable. The manmade global warming fraudsters get caught with a smoking gun and Obama continues the charade. The international community, knowing global warming is bogus but also knowing they can get money from the West, must be laughing at us. Obama is turning the once mighty U.S. into a laughing stock.
Actually, Professor Mann and James Hansen of NASA are old buddies…and NASA has been playing the denial of FOIA requests in much the same fashion as the CRU, the IPCC, Mann, et al. A lawsuit about all that was filed just a couple days ago.
In honor of the Copenhagen conference, a little Hans Christian Anderson – specifically the end of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”
“But he has nothing on at all,” said a little child at last. “Good heavens! listen to the voice of an innocent child,” said the father, and one whispered to the other what the child had said. “But he has nothing on at all,” cried at last the whole people. That made a deep impression upon the emperor, for it seemed to him that they were right; but he thought to himself, “Now I must bear up to the end.” And the chamberlains walked with still greater dignity, as if they carried the train which did not exist.
As I have been harping here and elsewhere for the past couple of years, this is not a hoax, this is fraud. When will some prosecutor somewhere find the guts, the balls or the tits to start investigating the perpetrators of this fraud with the RICO ACT in mind?
How close is it to where the RICO ACT and charges under it could be considered?
As I have been harping here and elsewhere for the past couple of years, this is not a hoax, this is fraud. When will some prosecutor somewhere find the guts, the balls or the tits to start investigating the perpetrators of this fraud with the RICO ACT in mind?
How close is it to where the RICO ACT and charges under it could be considered?
Reading more about the global heating debate – at CRU, science-wise they look like Michurin used to review and approve Lisenko’s research -
the mini ice age is coming to an end.
i remember my sister playing with her tea set and i had to pretend she was serving real tea to real invisible friends, cuz my mom told me to quit calling her a nutcase. its getting hot in here.
RE #17/ scott:
[...] We’ve gone through the looking glass. Abandon hope all who enter here. Do you actually think a society as sick as this one can be righted? [...]
Scott, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet – what about those navy SEALS who are sued for kicking a guy they busted in Faloudja? Not reding him Miranda? Not giving his prayer space? The right carpet for prayer?
What about Germany announcing that they’ll have at the NY terros trial an observer whose job will be to make sure the prosecution cannot use any evidence collected by Germans that may lead to the death penalty for those creeps?
The Titanic was not sunk by an iceberg,
but by two human failures:
1) The watertight bulkheads did not reach
all the way up to the top deck, and as the bow
sank, water cascaded over them, forcing the bow
further down.
2) The builders ran out of steel rivets,
and substituted weaker iron rivets in
lower-stress areas, such as the bow,
which ripped open on impact.
Furtherandmore, the company which hired the band made the musicians pay for their own uniforms;
After the sinking the company CFO sent one family
a bill. When the news of that got out, people
crossed the street to avoid speaking to the man.
Keep the above in mind when evaluating/predicting
wrt the current situation, any similar State
subterfuges.
10 bonus points for identifying the following quote:
“Gentlemen, time to take off your engineering
hats, and put on your management hats.”
I just checked- The water level here in Hawaii is still the same as is was 30 years ago when I moved here. What happened to all that water from the melted ice cap?
http://copenhagendiagnosis.org/
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Several of the authors of a report to be presented in Copenhagen are also mentioned – and are active participants – in the emails exchanged by Mann, Phil Jones, et al.
searchable database located here:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php
One thing people forget. If there was anything to this “warming” with it’s incidental sea level rise, New Orleans would not be allowed to repopulate for many reasons, one of which is a tremendous potential for litigation. I personally think that much of this has to do with now being able to
I wonder if climategate will inadvertently cause the global warming industry to come up with a real agreement in Copenhagen before their cover is fully blown. (Newton’s 3rd law of motion – every action is met with an equal and opposite reaction). Is that why the MSM is downplaying the scandal?
One thing people forget. If there was anything to this “warming” with it’s incidental sea level rise, New Orleans would not be allowed to repopulate for many reasons, one of which is a tremendous potential for litigation. I personally think that much of this has to do with now being able to LITIGATE ACTS OF GOD. This is what the pooer nations wished to do to the “richer” nations,
Jim Rockford: Obama is turning the once mighty U.S. into a laughing stock.
no i think Bush & Cheney did that a while ago.
AS to the topic, cherry picking parts out of emails and distorting the context from one institution proves incredibly little.
The fact is that the major scientific bodies from the US, France, Germany, Brazil, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia and on and on all say that Global warming is happening. A very small percentage are unconvinced but their motives at times are suspect.
Now i await for the childish name calling to start. And as my mom used to say when my sister and I were arguing, as soon as I started insulting her it showed i had lost the argument.
Obama’s continuing support for Global Warming (and his addition to the national debt) is akin to the Jon Voight character in “Runaway Train”. The train is on a dead end course yet Voight stands in front awaiting the inevitable.
TEN MYTHS of Global Warming
MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate.
FACT: Accurate satellite, balloon and mountain top observations made over the last three decades have not shown any significant change in the long term rate of increase in global temperatures. Average ground station readings do show a mild warming of 0.6 to 0.8Cover the last 100 years, which is well within the natural variations recorded in the last millennium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas (”heat islands”), which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas (”land use effects”).
There has been no catastrophic warming recorded.
MYTH 2: The “hockey stick” graph proves that the earth has experienced a steady, very gradual temperature increase for 1000 years, then recently began a sudden increase.
FACT: Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time. For instance, the Medieval Warm Period, from around 1000 to1200 AD (when the Vikings farmed on Greenland) was followed by a period known as the Little Ice Age. Since the end of the 17th Century the “average global temperature” has been rising at the low steady rate mentioned above; although from 1940 – 1970 temperatures actually dropped, leading to a Global Cooling scare.
The “hockey stick”, a poster boy of both the UN’s IPCC and Canada’s Environment Department, ignores historical recorded climatic swings, and has now also been proven to be flawed and statistically unreliable as well. It is a computer construct and a faulty one at that.
MYTH 3: Human produced carbon dioxide has increased over the last 100 years, adding to the Greenhouse effect, thus warming the earth.
FACT: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased. The RATE of growth during this period has also increased from about 0.2% per year to the present rate of about 0.4% per year,which growth rate has now been constant for the past 25 years. However, there is no proof that CO2 is the main driver of global warming. As measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this causal relationship. There is solid evidence that, as temperatures move up and down naturally and cyclically through solar radiation, orbital and galactic influences, the warming surface layers of the earth’s oceans expel more CO2 as a result.
MYTH 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.
FACT: Greenhouse gases form about 3 % of the atmosphere by volume. They consist of varying amounts, (about 97%) of water vapour and clouds, with the remainder being gases like CO2, CH4, Ozone and N2O, of which carbon dioxide is the largest amount. Hence, CO2 constitutes about 0.037% of the atmosphere. While the minor gases are more effective as “greenhouse agents” than water vapour and clouds, the latter are overwhelming the effect by their sheer volume and – in the end – are thought to be responsible for 60% of the “Greenhouse effect”.
Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention this important fact.
MYTH 5: Computer models verify that CO2 increases will cause significant global warming.
FACT: Computer models can be made to “verify” anything by changing some of the 5 million input parameters or any of a multitude of negative and positive feedbacks in the program used.. They do not “prove” anything. Also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds. The sun is a major cause of temperature variation on the earth surface as its received radiation changes all the time, This happens largely in cyclical fashion. The number and the lengths in time of sunspots can be correlated very closely with average temperatures on earth, e.g. the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. Varying intensity of solar heat radiation affects the surface temperature of the oceans and the currents. Warmer ocean water expels gases, some of which are CO2. Solar radiation interferes with the cosmic ray flux, thus influencing the amount ionized nuclei which control cloud cover.
MYTH 6: The UN proved that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”
To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.
MYTH 7: CO2 is a pollutant.
FACT: This is absolutely not true. Nitrogen forms 80% of our atmosphere. We could not live in 100% nitrogen either. Carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than nitrogen is. CO2 is essential to life on earth. It is necessary for plant growth since increased CO2 intake as a result of increased atmospheric concentration causes many trees and other plants to grow more vigorously. Unfortunately, the Canadian Government has included CO2 with a number of truly toxic and noxious substances listed by the Environmental Protection Act, only as their means to politically control it.
MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes.
FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur. Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing population density, escalating development value, and ever more media reporting.
MYTH 9: Receding glaciers and the calving of ice shelves are proof of global warming.
FACT: Glaciers have been receding and growing cyclically for hundreds of years. Recent glacier melting is a consequence of coming out of the very cool period of the Little Ice Age. Ice shelves have been breaking off for centuries. Scientists know of at least 33 periods of glaciers growing and then retreating. It’s normal. Besides, glacier’s health is dependent as much on precipitation as on temperature.
MYTH 10: The earth’s poles are warming; polar ice caps are breaking up and melting and the sea level rising.
FACT: The earth is variable. The western Arctic may be getting somewhat warmer, due to unrelated cyclic events in the Pacific Ocean, but the Eastern Arctic and Greenland are getting colder. The small Palmer Peninsula of Antarctica is getting warmer, while the main Antarctic continent is actually cooling. Ice thicknesses are increasing both on Greenland and in Antarctica.
Sea level monitoring in the Pacific (Tuvalu) and Indian Oceans (Maldives) has shown no sign of any sea level rise.
Source: Friends of Science website.
Top 10 Global warming MYTHS
Myth #1: The planet Earth will be healthier with lower CO2 levels.
Fact: More CO2 is needed to bolster plant life, which turns the gas into oxygen while also providing food.
Myth #2: Rising CO2 levels cause temperatures to rise.
Fact: Temperatures over time have fluctuated while CO2 levels have remained steady. What’s more, temperature increases have historically led increases in CO2 levels. (See Don Easterbrook’s studies for graphical proof, including all the supporting scientific data.)
Myth #3: Sea levels will rise 20 feet by the end of the century.
Fact: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicts only a 17-inch rise, and “most climatologists predict a rise of only 7 or 8 inches.”
Myth #4: Scientists unanimously say that CO2 caused by humans is the dominant cause of global warming.
Fact: Not so. “Many, many reputable scientists believe that natural factors overpower the current influence of CO2 on global warming.”
Myth #5: The United States is the largest contributor of human-caused CO2.
Fact: China, which has no CO2 restrictions, has recently exceeded the United States. Plus, it is “opening a new coal-fired power plant every week, and its production of automobiles is growing at a much more rapid rate.”
Myth #6: Storms are more frequent and intense because of global warming.
Fact: “According to the National Hurricane Center, storms are no more intense or frequent worldwide than they have been since 1850. Temperatures were high in the 1920s and 1930s when there was much less CO2 in the atmosphere. Constant 24-7 media coverage of every significant storm worldwide just makes it seem that way. Insist on the facts, not just what some individuals or reporters say to support their cause.”
Myth #7: Polar bears will go extinct if this warm period continues through the 21st century.
He says: “A jawbone of a polar bear has been found that is 120,000 years old, a time during the previous interglacial when temperatures were 5 degrees Celsius warmer and sea level 19 feet higher than today. They adapted then; why not now?” Furthermore, only FOUR deceased polar bears have actually been discovered having drowned NOT because they were swimming to find food, but apparently because they got caught in a storm. It happens.
Myth #8: CO2 is a pollutant.
Fact: “CO2 is a great airborne fertilizer, which, as its concentrations rise, causes additional plant growth and causes plants to need less water.”
Myth #9: As Earth warms, the climate will become much drier and windier.
Fact: Ice cores prove the opposite. The colder times were both windier and drier.
Myth #10: Higher levels of CO2 than the current 385 parts per million in the atmosphere are harmful to humans.
He says: The warning level of CO2 in submarines isn’t reached until the atmosphere has 8,000 parts per million of CO2.
While this information is not super secret – it has actually been published by dozens (hundreds?) of reputable scientists – we insist on giving credit where credit is due. This particular list was compiled from H. Leighton Steward’s book, entitled Fire, Ice and Paradise which we like so much, we provided a link here on our site (to your left).
But read with caution. If you weren’t already inclined to believe us, you might find yourself becoming logical!!!
I have a couple lines of code for translating.
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Here, the expected 1990-2003 period is MISSING – so the correlations aren’t so hot! Yet
the WMO codes and station names /locations are identical (or close).
What the hell is
supposed to happen here? Oh yeah – there is no ‘supposed’, I can make it up. So I have
One other QUESTION-
WhAT the hell did Al Gore know?
And When the hell did he know it?
Hello IdahoSpud,
Regardless of how you are addressed, you have lost the argument because you have failed to respond to the real issue. Let me lay it out for you. Your error is one of logic, that is, you have argued that certain scientists and climate research centers are believable because their degrees and the scientific processes they are supposed to employ make them credible.
However, what is at stake is precisely the degree to which they are credible. At the moment it appears that a significant sub-set of these scientists from which many, if not most others got their data, circumvented the standard processes for critical scientific work and failed to live up to the level of integrity generally implied by their degrees. Thus, you will need to find a way to assure us that what these gentlemen have published is correct, regardless of the growing evidence of their malfeasance. In fact, perhaps the only thing that will do this is if many others use the same data to achieve similar results,but this will be a bit difficult since we have been assured by these gentlemen that the original data has been lost.
Bottom line: In the absence of this sort of an outcome, your assertions are empty.
Additionally, your syntax and diction indicate that you are still quite immature. Maybe after some college and then a real job you will find examples other than poor sibling relationships to help you understand issues of credibility. In the meantime, I agree with your mother: the insults you directed toward Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney are another indication that you lost the argument, this time before you even got started.
KT — Comment #19: You are absolutely correct. She sank very early on the morning of the 15th after being attacked by the iceberg very late on the night of the 14th. Thanks for the correction.
I find it hilarious that the neo-commies want to discredit “unsustainable” capitalism, yet they can only do that by sabotaging it with regulation, taxation and outright thuggery, since it cannot collapse on its own in a free society. LOL
This nonsense is the real-world fruition of Scientific Socialism.
Oops, I was mistaken – climate change does in fact exist! It seems that I took the UEA emails totally out of context. Maybe now I’ll look further into my beliefs of conservatism and creationism.
http://enviroknow.com/2009/11/25/climategate-the-swifthack-scandal-what-you-need-to-know/#science
http://www.desmogblog.com/
Something will indeed smell rotten in Denmark. I thank God that, as usual, Obama will again come home with nothing, after much genuflecting and apologizing. He will abase himself, but his groveling and begging will accrue naught.
AGW, a faux science equaling the nonsense, accolades the ‘blockbuster’ movie ‘Titanic’ received ~10 years ago..
Science News magazine has an interesting article recently regarding aerosols:
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/48940/title/Aerosols_cloud_the_climate_picture
IMO one of the few periodicals worth paying for the hard copy..
#37 IdahoCons, I must ask. Which ‘major scientific bodies’ from the aforementioned countries speak of and provide valid representation of AGW?
Any unbiased, non-Government, non-lobbyist funded/persuaded entities would be great…
“Gavin A. Schmidt, a climatologist at NASA whose e-mail exchanges with colleagues over a variety of climate studies were in the cache. ‘Newton may have been an ass, but the theory of gravity still works.’”
Whether Isaac Newton was an ass or not, it did not affect his argument in the Principia. He was honest, unlike Gavin A. Schmidt and his colleagues.
The “ONE” is going down with the ship and there are no more lifeboats available. Can’t wait until all the corrupt politicians and deceitful scientists sink into oblivion. Thank God for this disclosure, now there’s ammunition to fight the fraud. It will be interesting to watch the AGW religious zealots try to explain this incredible Hoax away.
Climategate
Let’s see:
a) subverting the peer review process
b) stacking the UN IPCC
c) obstruction of the Freedom on Information Act
d) breach of university and state ethics codes
… and we haven’t even talked about the data yet.
Climate Science – the new Ponzi scheme!
p.s. – Is this what Science is all about? Meet the new boss (science), same as the old boss (religion). When are they issuing funny hats to scientists?
It is a religion, albeit a rather backward one, with all of the accouterments one might expect. There is a priesthood, there are dogmas, and there are cap and trade penances to be purchased. Skeptics are labeled heretics. Although no longer burned at the stake, their writings are banished into oblivion by “peer review.”
You know, burning fuel produce carbon monoxide. Have I missed something or does some atmospheric process convert co to co2?