The Futility of Trying to Wish Iran into Being Rational
It was little surprise when the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff panned a potential strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities by Israel. The Obama administration has been squishy on its relationship with Israel from the start, and fears an Israeli strike devolving into a crisis for which the White House is even less prepared than the current drama.
It was jarring, though, to see Gen. Martin Dempsey give far too much credit to the ability of this Iranian regime to be an equal negotiating partner.
In an interview aired Sunday on CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS, Dempsey was asked by the host if he viewed Iran’s behavior as “highly irrational” and “sort of unpredictable,” or whether they are “fairly calculating.”
“I’ll tell you that I’ve been confronting that question since I commanded Central Command in 2008,” Dempsey said. “And we are of the opinion that the Iranian regime is a rational actor. And it’s for that reason, I think, that we think the current path we’re on is the most prudent path at this point.” That’s the path of sanctions and “open-hand” negotiation that has proven fruitless thus far, and brushing aside talk of the option of military action while claiming that all options are still on the table.
Any country that has made “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” chants part of their repertoire since 1979, that held three young American hikers on laughable charges for two years after plucking them off the Kurdish border, that operates off an apocalyptic view that “the Jews should be fought against and forced to surrender to prepare the way for the coming of the Hidden Imam” (Ayatollah Hussein Nuri Hamdani, 2005) is not operating rationally. The degree of calculation by which they buy time for their nuclear program walks hand-in-hand with, not in conflict with, Tehran’s irrationality and unpredictability.
So why the insistence that Iran is, somewhere deep inside, willing to play by the rules toward America’s preferred resolution? Not just from Dempsey, but take White House spokesman Jay Carney at today’s press briefing: “We feel as I’ve said and others have said, as, most importantly, the president has said, that there is time and space for diplomacy to work, for the effective sanctions to result in a change in Iranian behavior, an agreement by Iran to live up to its obligations, to engage in negotiations and resolve this matter peacefully.”
Diplomats might characterize the strategy as how you’d approach a disturbed person on a ledge. You don’t point out that he’s off the reservation, but calmly try to reason with the person that he is capable of making the right choice, doesn’t have to hurt himself or others, and is a better person than that.
But even that can be counterproductive when allowed to drag on for too long. Anyone who’s ever dealt with a person suffering from bipolar disorder, for example, knows that he is not operating with a rational mind and is not making rational judgments. Loving support is essential, but if you write off too much of the bad behavior from a person who refuses to get treatment, you’re an enabler. You can be manipulated by the ill person. You have to draw the line somewhere with the destructive behavior toward others.
This is not to draw a comparison between radical Shiites who would annihilate the Jewish state and those suffering from bipolar; rather, it’s illustrative of how there comes a point when glass-half-full approaches come to an end.
In diplomacy, you can cross the line into weaponizing your adversary with your words.
Perhaps more telling than Dempsey’s words is how the Iranians covered them.
General Dempsey is CJCS
1-he has the information-
2-he has the support and respect of the US military.
3-his view supported by the UK government and the UK military.
On January 20 Gen Dempsey went to see Netanyahu and- shortly- thereafter the joint military IDF exercise in the Eastern Med was cancelled
The message is loud and clear–.
“US tells Israelis it won’t join their war”
–”Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) General Martin Dempsey told Israeli leaders on January 20 that the United States would not participate in a war against Iran begun by Israel without prior agreement from Washington”–
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB03Ak02.html
Obama will do nothing, absolutely nothing, before the election. I doubt he would even do anything if he were re-elected (God forbid). He wants no part of the Middle East, he can’t wait to cut and run from Afghanistan so that he can use the money for even more social welfare programs, and the only reason why we have the US Navy in the Persian Gulf in Bahrain is if Iran goes totally off the rails and decides to foolishly close the Straits of Hormuz. I still don’t know why Iran is so bellicose towards the United States. Iran is getting everything that it wants and they know Obama would never attack them. So they have plenty of time to get their bomb.
The only fly in the ointment is Israel. If Israel really, really, thinks that Iran is about to get the bomb, they will attack. I think it would be a mistake since bombing would not destroy Iran’s entire nuclear program and would only start a massive war in the Middle East. But suppose, just suppose, Israel’s entire threat to bomb Iran is all misdirection? Iran is about to have “elections” soon, so what if Israel will use all of its power to assist rebel groups inside of Iran to overthrow the mullahs? I’m sure Israel would be supported by Saudi Arabia in this mission, since the Saudis do not want Iran to get the bomb, either. So what if the threat to bomb is only a cover for massive Black Ops about to take place inside of Iran starting with the upcoming elections? Something to think about, and it has a better chance of succeeding than bombing does. A rebellion almost overthrew the government in 2009. Why can’t it work again?
“I still don’t know why Iran is so bellicose towards the United States”
Hint:
Read about a guy named Mohammad someday.
Pretty clear whats in their head, if you get inside his.
I’ve often thought that if I were the smartest intelligence in the neighborhood (galactic speaking) and I didn’t want competing intelligent life rising up to challenge me at some point down the road I’d figure out how to inject competing religions into up and coming species.
Seems to be working here on earth.
I disagree with your assessment 100%. You are believing Obama’s words instead of looking at Obama’s actions.
Obama is a Saudi Puppet and will do exactly what he is told to do in the Middle East. Obama has already announced to the Saudi Dictator, and the Baby Saudi Dictators at the UN, that Syria and Iran are next on his list to overthrow and hand over to the Saudi Dictator.
Saudi Puppet Obama has already overthrown Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Kenya and Yemen and presented them all as gifts, of whole countries, to the Saudi Dictator. Obama does this by conveniently leaving “Saudi written Sharia Law” in their constitutions. “Saudi written Sharia Law” in any constitution will change any DEMOCRACY into a DICTATORSHIP.
Obama gave these countries to the Saudi Dictator at the cost of thousands of American Soldier’s Lives, $Trillions of BORROWED American Dollars, and killing almost a million innocent Middle Eastern Civilians and Citizens. This is Hitler all over again and Americans are paying for it.
No, Obama will not go back on his promise to the Saudi Dictator of giving him Syria, Iran and Israel. SoS Clinton is meeting this week with the Saudi Dictator in Tunisia to get Americans involved in overthrowing Syria, Iran and then Israel. Conveniently, neither Syria, nor Russia, nor Iran, nor Israel were invited to the Saudi Dictator’s meeting to overthrow these governments at America’s expense. Only SoS Clinton was invited. Clinton was just announced to be in the finals for the head of the WORLD BANK by the Saudis. She’s obviously proven that she is willing to sacrifice thousands more American Lives and $Trillions more American Dollars to get her World Bank Retirement Position.
Our own estimable VDH puts it beautifully today over at the NRO.
To suggest that Iran is rational is in itself, irrational.
This administration is either dangerously myopic or demonically disingenuous. Or both.
MADNESS AS FORCE MULTIPLIER
Presumed madness is a force multiplier of nuclear capability, especially in an Islamic apocalyptic context. Under conventional nuclear deterrence, rough nuclear parity, and the assurance that neither side has a first-strike capability sufficient to render its opponent nuclearly impotent, prevent both wars and nuclear blackmail. But if a head of state can feign insanity, or, better yet, convincingly announce a wish for the apocalypse, then he can, in theory, circumvent some traditional rules of deterrence. An Iranian theocrat’s supposed willingness to use his sole nuclear weapon to wipe out tiny Israel — at the cost of losing 30 million Iranians from retaliation — yields a cheap way to obtain not just parity with Israel, but potentially a nuclear advantage.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/291492/nuclear-realities-victor-davis-hanson
Iran can rattle their paper sabres at us all they want (Saddam’s “mother of all wars” troops surrendering to CNN cameramen comes to mind), we would turn them into a sheet of glass behind a Commander in Chief who …actually liked the country he was elected to lead more than the one he was protecting it against.
This administration has little use for Israel and not much more for us (or any of our allies, really).
Propping up an insane Iran is pretty much par for the course, albeit with a duffer at the helm, chopping out triple bogeys and snowmen in foreign affairs.
I would not expect to see a Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in Hormuz coming out of this crowd or this Comrade in Chief. (or as Joe Biden might say Golf of Hormel resolution)
To summarize, Dempsey doesn’t know Jack.
To support what cf wrote above:
1) Obama has a history of surrounding himself with incompetent sycophants as advisiors, General Jones, Donilan, Clapper, Samatha Powers and Brennan come to mind. It would be reasonable to suppose that Dempsey is no better.
2) I recommend a book “Beyond Belief: The American Press And The Coming Of The Holocaust, 1933- 1945″. It describes how all the pundits of the 1930s treated Hitler as a rational actor who could dealt with using reason.
iran rules the middle east. No one can convince me otherwise. I am not going to list the acts that this number one state sponsor of terrorism has perpetrated, or backed, over the past 33 years. All of the presidents, through that time period, have been terrified to hold this persian entity accountable. Just take an hour and contemplate all of our warriors that that have been killed and what happens? Eventually, nothing happens. There is no retribution. There is no victory. The executive branch and the legislative branch “tuck their tails and run like dogs.”
Semper fi
To the death, through eternity
Thank you, Ms. Johnson, for addressing this so clearly. Since his 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama has held the narcissistic fantasy that he could “sit down” with Ahmadinejad and “reason” with him and that the oceans would recede (whatever that meant) and that the planet would heal. Right. It was a fantasy divorced from reality then, and his fantasy that Iran is a “rational actor” is divorced from reality now.
The sooner we can divorce ourselves from this feckless, ignorant, dreaming president, the better. Reality isn’t always agreeable, but it’s the only basis on which to formulate effective policies down here on planet Earth.
Unlike Mr. Obama and his clueless crew, the Israelis don’t have the luxury of dreaming about a non-existent, peace-loving Ahmadinejad. They have the necessity of seeing reality as it is. Would that our government were as reality-based. I know: dream on.
Belladonna, your words are very apt and succinct. Sitting within striking distance of the Iranian Hitler, I have a very personal dog in this (existential) struggle.
Whereas their genocidal regime surely is infused with madness, it is also the case that they have taken a rational reading of the Obama regime. Being irrational in one realm does not obviate rationality in another.
To wit, Jerusalem understands very well that they are on their own. They know that to survive they have to strike, and strike they will. Mark my words.
In this regard, no one should be foolish enough to expect that a pre-emption is not in the offing. It is. Fellow Israelis can smell it. Most are preparing according, or at least, as best as they can.
Adina Kutnicki, I hope that you know that tens of millions of Americans of all religions stand with Israel. Tragically (as Stalin is reported to have replied when advised his actions might alienate the Vatican, “How many divisions does the Pope have?”) we, unlike our Department of Defense, have no military divisions. It is agonizing, to say the least, that we — Israel’s tens of millions of supporters in the United States — are unable to intervene and protect the world from this evil dictatorship and must stand idly by as history threatens to repeat itself in the most horrific way imaginable. Why? Because tens of millions more of our fellow citizens saw fit to elect a man with no understanding of international relations who has chosen Samantha Power and others like her as his tutors.
I, personally, have the greatest faith in the wisdom, the military brilliance, the bravery and therefore the survival of the State of Israel and its courageous citizens.
I only wish that Israel could depend on the United States as the United States has been able to depend on Israel. With this administration, tragically, the alliance is a one-way street.
Belladonna, your support of Israel is duly noted and much appreciated.
In fact, as an op-ed writer for several media outlets (including The Jewish Press, the largest Jewish weekly in North America) I often consult with assorted high level Zionist players.
As such, my pulse on all things Zionist related (of which Israel’s security is a top priority) is based on more than my gut instincts.
While a small faction of peace fantasists resonates within the overall Israeli public, the majority are reality based. Thus, few will be surprised when-not if-Jerusalem takes action. By the way, I am not including Israel’s minority Arab population in my assessment. They are a breed apart.
The article briefly alludes to the issue of the ‘hidden imam’ and the role this plays in the Iranian mindset.
In my opinion this issue is very relevant and illuminates the Shia mindset about what is to come.
The return of the 12th imam plays a central role in Shia eschatology. In this scenario the 12th imam will return to bring about a new order with Iran in a central dominating position.
Also in this scenario, it is believed that the Iranian seat of power can play an active role in speeding the 12th iman’s return by creating instability and turmoil by way of a catalyst.
Unfortunately the USA seems to have no appreciation of Shia doctrine and the role it is playing in what Iran sees as the countdown to his return.
The problem is that our leaders, complex-thinking intellectual elitists all, are simply too smart to believe that. It, like all religion, is utter hogwash according to them, so therefore no head of state can logically be motivated by it.
It’s the same situation as dealing with somebody strung out on PCP. It doesn’t matter a bit that you don’t believe that he can fly to the Moon if he cuts your heart out with a butcher knife to pay the fare charged by the Moon Fairies.
All that matters is that HE believes it. And that he has that butcher knife in his hand.
But our leaders are just so incredibly smart that, as far as they’re concerned, that butcher knife- or Iran’s A-bomb- do not really exist. Or if they do, they will not be used, because “no rational person” (i.e., somebody like them) could possibly act that way.
Sherlock Holmes once commented that one of his most important skills as a consulting detective was the ability to “put himself in the other man’s place”- that is, think like the perpetrator, and deduce what he would do based on that other man’s intelligence and motivations.
This is an ability that seems sorely lacking in the Obama White House. They seem to believe that any leader automatically thinks as they do. Somehow, I doubt most world leaders do, where foreign relations are concerned. Although I suspect at least the majority of the dictators don’t hold their own people in much higher regard than The One & Co. have shown for the average American.
The last time we had a President who believed that foreign powers who openly stated they intended to erase us and our (few) friends from the face of the Earth didn’t really mean it, was when Jimmy Carter was President.
Funny thing- that time we had trouble with Iran, too.
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reiska, I am completely, absolutely and utterly convinced that Shia eschatalogy/the 12th imam plays a decisive role in their strategies. I have NO doubt that the Iranian Hitler, and his mad mullahs, will sacrifice as many Iranians as it takes to achieve their ‘salvation’.
Therefore, since they have already sacrificed over 500,000 of their own in a war with Iraq, how much more so they will risk everyth in order to usher in their mahdi!
Moreover, the icing on the cake will be ridding the world of the ‘Zionist entity’. It is under this paradigm that Jerusalem understands what needs to be done, regardless of the fallout-military or political. Count on it.
Just look back at how many children they sacrificed to clear minefields in their war with Iraq.
Does anyone remember how many raisins they promised the kids to go tramping or rolling through the fields?
What’s the matter with your people on this naive website? Don’t you know I run the foreign policy of the United States? How could you be so clueless? Do
i have to write this in my native Farsi?
I have no doubt that the Iranians will do exactly what they have set out to do – develop nuclear weapons, and, when they have a sufficient number, I firmly believe they will attempt to destroy Israel. How do I know this? They told me, they have told the world, and I should doubt them? When I was younger and studying history, I wondered how the ‘world’ could ignore the rantings and ravings of a Hitler, or a Lenin, or a Stalin, or a Mao. These totalitarians made no secret of what they would do when and if they came to power. And – no surprise – they followed through on their threats and promises. Why should I doubt the Iranian leaders? They mean what they say. I take them seriously, not as bellicose strawmen.
We have our own megalomaniac leading us. He is doing exactly what he said he would do during the 2008 campaign and if he is given another four years, he will continue his program to make the Constitution, in Bismarck’s phrase, ‘a scrap of paper.’ Nothing more. I believed him then, and I believe him now, especially since I’ve seen him and his minions in action. Those who have followed his words and actions closely over these past three years realize that he has done more damage to the framework of this country than any grouping of presidents before him. He has the same sense of mission as all the ‘chosen’ leaders before him and he has a compliant court and a weak-willed Congress assist him.
Yes, I believe the Iranians will do exactly as they threaten, just as I believe Barack Obama will do what he can do to realize his goals – the Constitution and the People be damned.
The biggest danger to the US is all those fools who voted for Obama.
Hubbub, exactly. Couldn’t have said it better myself!
So let me get this straight – it’s okay for countries to saber rattle, talk about preemptively attacking other countries when it’s the US or Israel doing it, but not other countries who are actually in real danger of being attacked? I mean, Iran doesn’t have carrier groups off of New Jersey…
Beyond that, can you honestly say that much of the US’s foreign policy in the middle east isn’t also driven by religion? Conservatives love Israel mostly because it’s the Holy Land.
And bear in mind, many people say the same exact thing about wanting to bring about the 2nd coming of Jesus as this 12th Iman crap. Is the second coming driving the foreign policy for people on the right? Probably about as much as this Iman stuff is driving foreign policy in Iran…
Don’t be silly. Twelvers believe they can usher in the 12th imam by starting a large scale war, especially if it wipes out Israel. Christian apocalyptic tradition says only God knows the timing of the Christian end times and only God can start it happening. Big difference there. Shiite Twelvers think they start it. Christians think that only God can start it.
The reality is that
USA tells Israelis it won’t join their war
Neither will our ally England nor will NATO
The US Military supports this position, the US Intelligence Community position.
Gen Dempsey and CIA director Gen Petraeus designed and are committed this position
ECHELON members all support this position
What is it about NO that Netanyahu does not understand?
Ending the $ 3 billion handout by American taxpayers to Netanyahu will be the first step
–more to follow fast–to make it louder and clearer that –.
America tells Israelis it won’t join their war with Iran
We have very powerful megaphones to get our message even louder if needed
I’m sorry Victor, I’m going to have to deduct points from your comment. you forgot to mention the USS Liberty! you should know that all good Jew haters try to bring that up in the first sentence. tisk tisk. better luck next time.
anyway, your comment. I know–those awful Jews, right? why don’t they just STFU and die quietly like they did in Europe huh?
Bibi doesn’t understand “no”? you moron. he’s not going to ask us for help, he’s going to ask Obama to get the hell out of the way so the grownups can take care of business.
Right-on Ruth.
Victor is a coward who would let his friends get beaten and robbed right in front of him because “it isnt his problem”
Why would the high ranking general venture to voice in public an opinion incompatible with the belief of his superiors, all the way up to the CIC? It was an alarmingly strange statement, as strange as what the Secretary of defense has been indicating recently. It suggests to me that the POTUS wants to project the image of the “reasonable” fellow, who is not like these “crazy” Israeli, in total disregard of how downright existential it is to them. In the mean time, let’s go to war with the Catholics, because that’s really something that must be done!
This guy is trying to make Joe Biden look like a statesman!
It’s starting to sound like Victor is part of Obama’s “Truth” team.
Libertyship is right! O won’t do a thing period-even IF he is re-elected. Frankly, this guy is a nut job. He lives in a fantasy world of O being so great, that all he has to do is to open his mouth & people will fawn over him. Well, I got news fer ya. Iran ain’t no lamestream US press O. This may play well in the the States to the ignorant & naive, but in international circles, these people are laughing their butts off about him. O won’t lift a finger until an Iranian nuke goes off in Israel or off our coast in a ship. Then, he will beg patience & for understanding of why the poor, persecuited Muslims did this. It will all be our fault & yet another reason to open up a dialogue with Muslims. Such is the state of our presidency today.
Reza Kahlili writes in the DC today about details of Iran’s sleeper cells in Europe and the USA, which would go into action within a short time after any strikes on Iran.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/21/suicide-bombers-poised-to-strike-u-s-iran-warns/
Iran’s behavior and rhetoric is completely rational. Step back from the crazy words and look at what they accomplish – Iran has succeeded in getting us to negotiate with ourselves. If I say “I’m done with this nonsense, let’s just nuke them back to the stone age” then thousands of others pour out of the woodwork saying “No, we must negotiate to bring them into the fold of civilized nations”. Iran then knows that they’ve not yet received the best offer they’ll get and they spew more crazy words. We then up the ante, they walk away, and we chase them back to the negotiating table with an even better offer. They’ve seen our diplomatic genius at work with the PA, we’re unwilling to take “no” for an answer. We’ll do anything to get a “yes” and we’ll keeping offering more and more to get that “yes”.
We’re the irrational party. We don’t know what we want outside of “a deal”. We don’t have any idea what the deal looks like but we’ll take it if only Iran would just say “yes”. We have to be willing to walk away, but we’re not. We have to be willing to use military force, but that option is off the table. We’re playing poker with all of our cards face-up and giving Iran extra face-down cards… why would Iran take our deal when they know we’ll present a better one next year?
It’s been said that “War is a failure of diplomacy” but it’s not because being willing to go to war is vital part of diplomacy. If you tell the schoolyard bully that you won’t fight under any circumstances then you’ll never keep your lunch money. We tell Iran every day that we won’t fight, that their values are superior to ours, that they must let us apologize for all our sins, and then beg them to negotiate with us. Our negotiating posture is one of surrender and Iran is rationally waiting for us to actually surrender.
Chris, your analysis is spot on except where it fails at the end. Everyone knows that war between the U.S.gov and Iran is too costly for either side. It’s a face up card for both players. It is only Israel that hasn’t got the message yet. They are free to mount whatever ineffectual strike they can muster and then bear the retaliation. While also giving Iran a free pass out of the NPT into the nuclear club.
Israel has just completed upgrades of its older F-15s and block c/d F-16s with comformal fuel tanks and the ability to carry weapons needed for a strike on the Iranian nuclear program. The entire air force is now configured for a single purpose.
They have been quiet on the subject of refueling and are known to have converted passenger jets for this purpose.
They have also been silent about their own long range missiles which could be included in the initial strike along with submarine launched cruise missiles. Nobody knows how many of these there are or what are their capabilities.
On the home front there are still not enough bomb shelters or gas masks but they have been drilling and preparing for the inevitable counter attack.
I think there is no doubt among Israeli leaders that Tehran is making all of this sacrifice to obtain the bomb for only one reason – to fulfil its destiny as the destroyers of the Jewish state. If that is the reason everything the Iranians have done has been rational and successful.
Obama and the euros are willing to confront Iran so long as the Israelis do all of the fighting with the military and political fallout. Israelis know this now. The US will never stop Iran and will never back Israel. That simplifies the decision making process. The American public and congress will support Israel.
Adina knows from Israel that something has changed. You can sense it just from reading news and what Israelis are saying. There is a sort of understanding that this is going to happen any day.
On the lighter side Iranian soccer team canceled a game against a Romanian team because they are coached by an Israeli. Heh, for all that bluster those wusses sure back down quick. One Israeli soccer coach and they run away.
Victor, you are leaving these dual loyalists and Israel firsters sputtering and phlegming. They can’t understand that they are on their own in attacking Iran preemptively. You can explain it to them in 20 different ways. It won’t register. And they can’t see WHY? WHY won’t the U.S.gov join Israel on a preemptive OOTB strike on Iran???
BECAUSE… a war between Israel and Iran is short and sweet. No closing of the Strait of Hormuz. No U.S.gov ships on fire and sunk in the PG. No Ras Tenura missiled into a smoking ruin. No Iranian offensive around the Faw Penisula. Several thousand U.S.gov troops alive well into 2012 instead of DEAD. And a couple of TRILLION dollars saved. And no $250/bbl oil.
…and millions of those pesky Jews dead, just like so many have dreamed of for so long!
Admit it, jerk.
Hahahahaaa.. don’t get so emotional. The simple fact is that a war between Iran and the U.S.gov is in neither’s interest. In fact it would be deadly for both.
I assume you’re not an American first?
From 1992 until now the iranian theocrats have succeeded in getting their nuclear toy in a perfectly logic way. Even more they have always been frank and clear that one day Israel would be destroyed . It does not take a lot of brain space to logically conclude that they will use their nuclear toy to achieve that goal . It is a matter of shiite religious superiority over the sunni creed and also a matter of eschatological ( the letters l.o.g.i.c being associated with eschatology are still logical ?) formula: according to their very logical eschatological doctrine repeated hundred of times by all their past and actual leaders ; the 12th mahdi will save the world and put Iran on top once the state of Israel and also the jews wherever they are, will be destroyed, I would like your jewish and non-jewish readers who still believe in Obama logic of appeasement to read twice what I wrote here.So it now very urgent for Israel to preempt with all its might the logical next part of the iranian melody ” springtime for hitler and germany “( remember Mel Brooks ?) . And the main culprit of that terrible situation are the past and present president of the USA ( Clinton-Bush-Obama ) whom out fear, complacency, illusion have let this situation slips to the point of no-return
I anyone really surprised that a guy with a middle name of Hussein and said the Muslim call to prayer is the sweetest sound he’s ever heard will not help the Israelis? I mean what makes everyone thinks that ole’ Barry is against Iran getting a bomb? Every action he takes (and GWB wasn’t much better)clearly says that he is quite okay with Iran getting a nuclear bomb. Its so much quicker and easier to get rid of those smart and pesky Jews. The Israelis may have a better chance to get help from the Saudi Kingdom. After all, they too are terrified of the Persians and they don’t trust Barack, even though he bowed to the king.
Its time to enlist the help of God. The God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. It looks like were slouching towards Armaggedon.
For an Islamic country Iran is acting rational.
This is how Islam is.
We made the same mistake in imagining that the Taliban could be led toward rationality. They are our enemies, and we should have annihilated them.
I just heard Oliver Stone’s son speak on CNN.He’s lost it and lives in fantasy land.Have fun in Iran Mr.Stone.
Ron Paul stated and i quote why are we giving money to enemies of the US in foreign aid?Why indeed Mr Paul.Too bad your an antisemite and a closet racist.Your a career politician whos only concern is keeping your seat.
Rationality from Iran?Yeah right.This is a country that bans bart simpson for cryin out loud because it offends Islamic values?What values?The same values that we see in Libya and Syria?Egypt and Tunisia?Dont make me laugh.
When an ICBM hits Washington, then MAYBE the leftists will see it.Then again theyll just say they deserved it.Fools.