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		<title>By: Greying Wanderer</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-far-right-hits-prime-time-during-question-time/#comment-434572</link>
		<dc:creator>Greying Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BNP is a nativist party. It no doubt has individual members and possibly leaders who are or were more extreme than that. If it ever came to power it might be evil or it might be sensibly and firmly nativist.

However the simple fact is the entire political class in Britain has surrendered to our eventual extinction as long as they and their families are the last in the queue. Currently the British people have no choice but a party like the BNP.

So that&#039;s that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BNP is a nativist party. It no doubt has individual members and possibly leaders who are or were more extreme than that. If it ever came to power it might be evil or it might be sensibly and firmly nativist.</p>
<p>However the simple fact is the entire political class in Britain has surrendered to our eventual extinction as long as they and their families are the last in the queue. Currently the British people have no choice but a party like the BNP.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BNP invited LePen to their convention ! this is telling the smartiness of t&#039;em !

Besides, since when British is a race related to a specific origin, cuz if you analyse their DNA, there are Angles, Saxons, Brittons, Celts, French, italian immigrants, Belgians, Pakistaneses, whatever Arab Caucasians...

So this party is quite a mind elaboration, it&#039;s all about the grandeur of the Brits, when they were taking tea-time, while an Untermench from their colonies was making some air shakes with palm branches</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BNP invited LePen to their convention ! this is telling the smartiness of t&#8217;em !</p>
<p>Besides, since when British is a race related to a specific origin, cuz if you analyse their DNA, there are Angles, Saxons, Brittons, Celts, French, italian immigrants, Belgians, Pakistaneses, whatever Arab Caucasians&#8230;</p>
<p>So this party is quite a mind elaboration, it&#8217;s all about the grandeur of the Brits, when they were taking tea-time, while an Untermench from their colonies was making some air shakes with palm branches</p>
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		<title>By: ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RightwingHippyChick

I read what you wrote and I think I agree.  I thought BNP is a neo-nazi party, but recently I have changed my mind.  I also read that Polish guy , Kaminski. is an anti-semite and  I know for certain that he is not an anti-semite. I think that we should carefully check  statements from the media because many times they do  Goebbels-like* propaganda and it seems to work.

* Goebbels said that if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it  

@ Mags

He said that it is not possible to be Briton and black at the same time.  He is right, ethnically blacks living in Britain are not Britons, although non-ethnically they are British.
You said that he discourages homosexuality.    Do you mean that everybody have to like all life-styles? BNP does not  advocates  killing homosexuals, like  &quot;religion of peace&quot; and its believers do.
 I have now read their manifestos (all 3 of them) and in none of them they are talking about killing someone.  They talk about controlling immigration policies,  about transportation, pride in being British and about end to doing whatever Brussels tells British. All the important things for Brits.
You mean it is wrong???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RightwingHippyChick</p>
<p>I read what you wrote and I think I agree.  I thought BNP is a neo-nazi party, but recently I have changed my mind.  I also read that Polish guy , Kaminski. is an anti-semite and  I know for certain that he is not an anti-semite. I think that we should carefully check  statements from the media because many times they do  Goebbels-like* propaganda and it seems to work.</p>
<p>* Goebbels said that if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it  </p>
<p>@ Mags</p>
<p>He said that it is not possible to be Briton and black at the same time.  He is right, ethnically blacks living in Britain are not Britons, although non-ethnically they are British.<br />
You said that he discourages homosexuality.    Do you mean that everybody have to like all life-styles? BNP does not  advocates  killing homosexuals, like  &#8220;religion of peace&#8221; and its believers do.<br />
 I have now read their manifestos (all 3 of them) and in none of them they are talking about killing someone.  They talk about controlling immigration policies,  about transportation, pride in being British and about end to doing whatever Brussels tells British. All the important things for Brits.<br />
You mean it is wrong???</p>
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		<title>By: mags</title>
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		<dc:creator>mags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like all quasi-fascist movements, the BNP is supremely opportunistic, using legitimate grievances which the political mainstream has ignored as a Trojan horse for its own horrible objective.
People have despaired that the mainstream parties had become so compromised by political correctness that it fell to the BNP to defend commonsense English traditions

The problem here is that the B.N.P is not just talking about illegal immigration.
They want to repatriate non- white British citizens
They want those of foreign descent to return to their lands of “ethnic origin”. This would cover many millions of British citizens,even if they have never even been to that country.

Nick Griffin, chair of the British National Party, has defended party literature which tells members that Asian Britons and black Britons “do not exist”

He is asserting that it is not possible to be British and black at the same time. They say the obvious corollary to that opinion is a deportation policy





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The BNP is a racist ,homophobic party that has been inciting violence against many groups.
Some quotes,
‘The BNP discourages homosexuality, arguing that it is unnatural.&#039;

“We would offer counselling to get people away from their deviant lifestyles, or ask them to become celibate.&#039;

They have stated that aids is gods revenge on gays.
Early in the formation of the BNP they wanted to re-criminalise homosexualty.

They have had to clean up some of their policies but scratch the surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like all quasi-fascist movements, the BNP is supremely opportunistic, using legitimate grievances which the political mainstream has ignored as a Trojan horse for its own horrible objective.<br />
People have despaired that the mainstream parties had become so compromised by political correctness that it fell to the BNP to defend commonsense English traditions</p>
<p>The problem here is that the B.N.P is not just talking about illegal immigration.<br />
They want to repatriate non- white British citizens<br />
They want those of foreign descent to return to their lands of “ethnic origin”. This would cover many millions of British citizens,even if they have never even been to that country.</p>
<p>Nick Griffin, chair of the British National Party, has defended party literature which tells members that Asian Britons and black Britons “do not exist”</p>
<p>He is asserting that it is not possible to be British and black at the same time. They say the obvious corollary to that opinion is a deportation policy</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>The BNP is a racist ,homophobic party that has been inciting violence against many groups.<br />
Some quotes,<br />
‘The BNP discourages homosexuality, arguing that it is unnatural.&#8217;</p>
<p>“We would offer counselling to get people away from their deviant lifestyles, or ask them to become celibate.&#8217;</p>
<p>They have stated that aids is gods revenge on gays.<br />
Early in the formation of the BNP they wanted to re-criminalise homosexualty.</p>
<p>They have had to clean up some of their policies but scratch the surface.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love. 

However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.

This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him. 

Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need. 

Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man. 

You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?” 

But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?” 

That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question. 

This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.

Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love. </p>
<p>However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.</p>
<p>This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him. </p>
<p>Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need. </p>
<p>Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man. </p>
<p>You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?” </p>
<p>But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?” </p>
<p>That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question. </p>
<p>This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.</p>
<p>Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.</p>
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		<title>By: Render</title>
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		<dc:creator>Render</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/5122/461198182140281/227/z/391077/gse_multipart30473.jpg

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I&#039;m not sure its possible to be more neo-nazi then Mick Holmes, former Lincolnshire BNP organiser and bodyguard to Nick Griffin.

ANY
FURTHER
QUESTIONS?,
R</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not sure its possible to be more neo-nazi then Mick Holmes, former Lincolnshire BNP organiser and bodyguard to Nick Griffin.</p>
<p>ANY<br />
FURTHER<br />
QUESTIONS?,<br />
R</p>
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		<title>By: RightwingHippyChick</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightwingHippyChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fnord, the aptly named:

Calling people Neo-Nazi is hate speech as well, especially if the people in question are not neo-nazis.  

Attempting to cloud the issue with hysterics and accusing people who disagree as fascists... is quite stupid, especially when those people all are saying that there are more important and pressing issues here that are being swept under the carpet in this way.

So, what is it that you want:  name and sort out the issues that are causing the situation OR you want to just let of righteous steam and celebrate a community-bonding hiss-fest dissing mythical nazis, but don&#039;t do the actual difficult work of nailing the elusive points?

I prefer to work with reality, mainly because I happen to live here and I have a lot to lose if the BNP gets too popular(and them supposedly being nazi is the the smallest of their problems btw).  

The tragedy is that the BNP are partially right and the only party prepared to tell the truth as it is, and by now the situation in the UK is so dire that even if the BNP were nazi, it would not matter, because the threat to the UK is far greater than anything the BNP can conjure up, and a lot of people silently think that after the main problem is sorted, any problems the BNP could come up with are trivial in comparison and easily sorted out. 

Articles like this one only serve to either make people switch off their minds in disgust or lull them in a false sense of security.

I hope you now understand the intricate poisonousness of the entire situation and why people are saying that articles like that are rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fnord, the aptly named:</p>
<p>Calling people Neo-Nazi is hate speech as well, especially if the people in question are not neo-nazis.  </p>
<p>Attempting to cloud the issue with hysterics and accusing people who disagree as fascists&#8230; is quite stupid, especially when those people all are saying that there are more important and pressing issues here that are being swept under the carpet in this way.</p>
<p>So, what is it that you want:  name and sort out the issues that are causing the situation OR you want to just let of righteous steam and celebrate a community-bonding hiss-fest dissing mythical nazis, but don&#8217;t do the actual difficult work of nailing the elusive points?</p>
<p>I prefer to work with reality, mainly because I happen to live here and I have a lot to lose if the BNP gets too popular(and them supposedly being nazi is the the smallest of their problems btw).  </p>
<p>The tragedy is that the BNP are partially right and the only party prepared to tell the truth as it is, and by now the situation in the UK is so dire that even if the BNP were nazi, it would not matter, because the threat to the UK is far greater than anything the BNP can conjure up, and a lot of people silently think that after the main problem is sorted, any problems the BNP could come up with are trivial in comparison and easily sorted out. </p>
<p>Articles like this one only serve to either make people switch off their minds in disgust or lull them in a false sense of security.</p>
<p>I hope you now understand the intricate poisonousness of the entire situation and why people are saying that articles like that are rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: bibio44</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>48. RightwingHippyChick: &quot;Bibio44, care to explain how any Neo-nazi is against Islam like Nick Griffin is?&quot;

Hey, I&#039;m just following the party line laid down by that far, far left-wing site, PJM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>48. RightwingHippyChick: &#8220;Bibio44, care to explain how any Neo-nazi is against Islam like Nick Griffin is?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m just following the party line laid down by that far, far left-wing site, PJM.</p>
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		<title>By: Fnord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fnord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the articlewriter for daring to write about this issue. As can be seen from the comment-thread, the audience seems to be mostly BNP supporters here, fascists who have adopted the pro-Israel cause as a cover to hate muslims.

I have bveen noticing the decline in articles on Pajamas-Media when it comes to hatespeech recently. Its good to see a warningshot, and equally disheartening to see the responses from the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the articlewriter for daring to write about this issue. As can be seen from the comment-thread, the audience seems to be mostly BNP supporters here, fascists who have adopted the pro-Israel cause as a cover to hate muslims.</p>
<p>I have bveen noticing the decline in articles on Pajamas-Media when it comes to hatespeech recently. Its good to see a warningshot, and equally disheartening to see the responses from the audience.</p>
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		<title>By: RightwingHippyChick</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightwingHippyChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bibio44, care to explain how any Neo-nazi is against Islam like Nick Griffin is?  

Have you read my post and checked the links and thought a bit about the obvious contradictions here?

Note I&#039;m not saying the BNP is great, but the tired old nazi meme is not only wrong -- it also is turning people off thinking properly.

There is a lot that can be sensibly written about this subject, but hysterical cookie cutter PC claptrap is not a winning entry here, in fact, if anything, it&#039;s BNP propaganda at best.

Sad when people have to defend the BNP in order to create a platform where real critiscm can happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bibio44, care to explain how any Neo-nazi is against Islam like Nick Griffin is?  </p>
<p>Have you read my post and checked the links and thought a bit about the obvious contradictions here?</p>
<p>Note I&#8217;m not saying the BNP is great, but the tired old nazi meme is not only wrong &#8212; it also is turning people off thinking properly.</p>
<p>There is a lot that can be sensibly written about this subject, but hysterical cookie cutter PC claptrap is not a winning entry here, in fact, if anything, it&#8217;s BNP propaganda at best.</p>
<p>Sad when people have to defend the BNP in order to create a platform where real critiscm can happen.</p>
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