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		<title>By: How Not to Criticize American Health Care &#124; Health</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-doctor-is-in-infant-mortality-comparisons-a-statistical-miscarriage/#comment-1793855</link>
		<dc:creator>How Not to Criticize American Health Care &#124; Health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ari Tai</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-doctor-is-in-infant-mortality-comparisons-a-statistical-miscarriage/#comment-1221132</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Tai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 05:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we do get some medical &quot;tourism&quot; from Canada for exactly this issue - women told by their doctors that there is no better care than in the U.S. for their troubled pregnancy - likely premie.  

And we never seem to discuss that the first thing that&#039;s cut when budgets are tight is research.  And like defense, if the U.S. doesn&#039;t do it (sadly) no one will.  I hope we&#039;re all happy with the state of today&#039;s medicine because not only are we regulating ourselves to stasis (trying to avoid a few more deaths by testing regimes that restrict the ability the wealthy to suffer and spend their own money to try to live another three miserable months - and sometimes extend the science) but when there is no profit there will be no research.  The research that still exists in these other countries is largely driven by the opportunity to sell in the U.S.  When that opportunity to make a ROI on significant risk evaporates, so will those companies.

If we don&#039;t shackle the medical profession, we&#039;ll look back at today in 100 years the same way we look back at leaches and worse - primitive medicine (if not snake oil) at its best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we do get some medical &#8220;tourism&#8221; from Canada for exactly this issue &#8211; women told by their doctors that there is no better care than in the U.S. for their troubled pregnancy &#8211; likely premie.  </p>
<p>And we never seem to discuss that the first thing that&#8217;s cut when budgets are tight is research.  And like defense, if the U.S. doesn&#8217;t do it (sadly) no one will.  I hope we&#8217;re all happy with the state of today&#8217;s medicine because not only are we regulating ourselves to stasis (trying to avoid a few more deaths by testing regimes that restrict the ability the wealthy to suffer and spend their own money to try to live another three miserable months &#8211; and sometimes extend the science) but when there is no profit there will be no research.  The research that still exists in these other countries is largely driven by the opportunity to sell in the U.S.  When that opportunity to make a ROI on significant risk evaporates, so will those companies.</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t shackle the medical profession, we&#8217;ll look back at today in 100 years the same way we look back at leaches and worse &#8211; primitive medicine (if not snake oil) at its best.</p>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death by violence.  If four men live to 75, the &quot;average life expectancy&quot; is 75.  If three men live to 90 and one dies at 20, the &quot;average life expectancy&quot; is 73.  Which of these two situations implies a healthier population?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death by violence.  If four men live to 75, the &#8220;average life expectancy&#8221; is 75.  If three men live to 90 and one dies at 20, the &#8220;average life expectancy&#8221; is 73.  Which of these two situations implies a healthier population?</p>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl:  http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/indneonatalmortality/en/

&quot;Neonatal Mortality Rate:  Number of deaths during the first 28 completed days of life per 1,000 live births in a given year or period.&quot;

And they have the same definition of &quot;live birth&quot; you give.  So a delivered fetus that requires resuscitation is &lt;i&gt;not a live birth&lt;/i&gt;.  And if it&#039;s not a &quot;live birth&quot; then it &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t count for the statistics.&lt;/i&gt;  So if a doctor declares a vastly-premature or stillborn infant &quot;nonviable&quot; and refuses to provide supporting treatment, that &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t count&lt;/i&gt; as infant mortality.  But if the doctor &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; provide treatment and the baby dies anyway, then it &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl:  <a href="http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/indneonatalmortality/en/" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/indneonatalmortality/en/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Neonatal Mortality Rate:  Number of deaths during the first 28 completed days of life per 1,000 live births in a given year or period.&#8221;</p>
<p>And they have the same definition of &#8220;live birth&#8221; you give.  So a delivered fetus that requires resuscitation is <i>not a live birth</i>.  And if it&#8217;s not a &#8220;live birth&#8221; then it <i>doesn&#8217;t count for the statistics.</i>  So if a doctor declares a vastly-premature or stillborn infant &#8220;nonviable&#8221; and refuses to provide supporting treatment, that <i>doesn&#8217;t count</i> as infant mortality.  But if the doctor <i>does</i> provide treatment and the baby dies anyway, then it <i>does</i> count.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s now see you explain away why the &quot;living&quot; here have one of the lowest life expectancies of developed countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s now see you explain away why the &#8220;living&#8221; here have one of the lowest life expectancies of developed countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Life A Right? - Page 8 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Life A Right? - Page 8 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Austria, a premature baby weighing less than 500g it is not considered or counted as a live birth. Pajamas Media The Doctor Is In: Infant Mortality Comparisons a Statistical Miscarriage In Japan or Hong Kong a child that is born alive, but dies within the first 24 hours is reported as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Austria, a premature baby weighing less than 500g it is not considered or counted as a live birth. Pajamas Media The Doctor Is In: Infant Mortality Comparisons a Statistical Miscarriage In Japan or Hong Kong a child that is born alive, but dies within the first 24 hours is reported as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Repeal Healthcare - Page 44 - Volconvo Debate Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repeal Healthcare - Page 44 - Volconvo Debate Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: happy birthday - Page 4 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy birthday - Page 4 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rate numbers are skewed as many countries don&#039;t count partial births, low birth weight and etc. Pajamas Media The Doctor Is In: Infant Mortality Comparisons a Statistical Miscarriage  I noticed you supplied no links to support your [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rate numbers are skewed as many countries don&#39;t count partial births, low birth weight and etc. Pajamas Media The Doctor Is In: Infant Mortality Comparisons a Statistical Miscarriage  I noticed you supplied no links to support your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Lembke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Lembke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 17:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, the World Health organization has defined &quot;live birth&quot; as 

&lt;blockquote&gt;A live birth occurs when a fetus, whatever its gestational age, exits the maternal body and subsequently shows any sign of life, such as voluntary movement, heartbeat, or pulsation of the umbilical cord, for however brief a time and regardless of whether the umbilical cord or placenta are intact. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_birth&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(Wikipedia)&lt;a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If low birth weight babies aren&#039;t being counted in a nation&#039;s statistics, it is at odds with this definition.  I&#039;d love to see a link to a definitive source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, the World Health organization has defined &#8220;live birth&#8221; as </p>
<blockquote><p>A live birth occurs when a fetus, whatever its gestational age, exits the maternal body and subsequently shows any sign of life, such as voluntary movement, heartbeat, or pulsation of the umbilical cord, for however brief a time and regardless of whether the umbilical cord or placenta are intact. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_birth" rel="nofollow">(Wikipedia)</a><a></a></p></blockquote>
<p>If low birth weight babies aren&#8217;t being counted in a nation&#8217;s statistics, it is at odds with this definition.  I&#8217;d love to see a link to a definitive source.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; &#8220;News&#8221; meant to obfuscate, rather than to elucidate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; &#8220;News&#8221; meant to obfuscate, rather than to elucidate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 15:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It turns out, though, that America is an information honest broker, while other countries, especially socialized medicine countries, are not: Q: If socialized medicine is so bad, why are infant mortality rates higher in the U.S. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It turns out, though, that America is an information honest broker, while other countries, especially socialized medicine countries, are not: Q: If socialized medicine is so bad, why are infant mortality rates higher in the U.S. [...]</p>
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