This is the faustian bargin Democrats brought on themsleves. They only could manage the House majority won in ’06 by recruiting conservative candidates to capture districts once comfortably held by Republicans.

Not only has this tiny minority – most of whom are congressional rookies – overtaken the Health Care debate – they have thwarted the radical energy/Cap & Trade initiative.

It is FAR MORE POLITICALLY POSSIBLE that they bring down Pelosi than Pelosi quenching the coup; she had her oppertunity to buy them off with the Porkulous – and rather than throw the dogs some bones – she miscalculated.

The best news for all of us who have been angrily demanding deportation by attrition and some legislative sanity to ‘fix’ immigration is this; Mexico’s own struggles & the economy here there and throughout the world.

Obama’s honeymoon ended when he foolishly claimed the Porkulous would keep unemployment under 8.5% – stupidly boxing himself in. He then blundered off into the Skippy Gates affair and now is chimming in that the protests over his health care represents political goon squads.

The ‘ONE’ was talked into using the economic crises to push for everything under the sun all at once and it’s already blowing up in his face.

Chuck Schumers ‘job’ is to play footsie with immigration – his efforts represent the political polar opposite of what the late Wyoming senator Alan Simpson TRIED to do in ’84-’86 -which was actually impliment immigration reform – with a national ID card and employer sanctions as the foundation.

It was supply-side conservatives that destroyed what he tried to impliment with the late Barbara Jordan – granting amnesty and a virtual open boarders invitation throughout the americas from Argentina to Nogales.

Today it is vitual political suicide for either party to try and sell Americans that immigration represents a ‘vital’ necessity for promoting a stronger more economically inventive country. Americans have been having a vibrant debate for the past decade. Before that debate a guest worker program was not only possible but highly likely.

I don’t buy that it ever has a chance in the next 100 years.

We are all living with the nightmares hatched from this lie since Simpson Mazzoli in ’86. California is exhibit A – with the rest of the country suffering from the explosion of interior migration in the boom years – 1996-2004.

There is zero poltical capital to spend on immigration, not just from the jist of what this post implies, but from the latest evaporation of wealth among ALL AMERICANS in the past few years.

When the average american who HAD SAVINGS, be it in the form of housing value or a 401K, has seen 30 to 40% declines in that wealth, only a race hustler like Ruben could even pander such drivil for a dollar or a dime and call it ‘news.’ Add to this dismal record the fact that the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS had little or no such savings – and are in debt up to their eye balls.

While all the folks who love to hear from Ruben were off calling advisaries like myself lots of ugly names – we were waking up Americans to this dilution of our freedoms and livlihoods. We have made a difference. Cheap labor isn’t so cheap anymore. Illegals have repratriated. Many less are coming.

There isn’t much of a debate anymore. The Chamber Of Commerce folks are still trying to sell ‘comprehensive’ reform – it just happens to represent a political death sentence.

Which is why Chuckie Schumar of NY will dutifully put lip stick on a pig and hit all the talking head familiar venues – and then sigh – ‘if only…..’

Sometimes the best legislation is no legislation at all – a concept not entirely lost on some conservatives.

Thanks for being honest James. Immigration, especially the illegal variety, for many now days is not about living the American Dream. I include legal immigration because we’ve let hundreds of thousands of immigrants from places like Somalia and the Middle East as refugees who also don’t care to “melt” into the Great Melting Pot. They transform decent neighborhoods into miniature versions of the homeland they fled, refuse to learn English, demand special treatment or concessions, and often cause a huge burden on the local social programs while not contributing back to the system.

I don’t care if people come here legally through the proper legal channels. The refugee issue however bypasses the normal channels a legal immigrant must go through. A good example:

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/07/30/child-barbarians-in-phoenix-obama-extends-their-stay/

Chicago @ 22: Some of us have heard of the intent to import up to 100,000 Palistinian “refugees”. Attorney General Eric Holder, in a recent speech to trial lawyers, stated a desire to release a massive number of state and federal prisoners onto our streets. Couple these to ACORN and the thousands of black and Mexican criminal gang members presently terrorizing our streets and you have the makings of the civilian security force Zerobama spoke of during his campaign.

that’s the start of a “civilization’s destruction from within.”

They demand to keep their language, traditions, and culture and demand that the US government support these conditions. They will be the first to scream ‘racist’ if you suggest that they learn English, they will scream, ‘it’s our culture’ when you ask that they curb their obscene teen pregnancy rate.

These immigrants wish to be a distinct community — until it’s time to pay the bills, at which time they will demand every possible government assistance.

Those of us in the middle class will be the ones responsible for paying the costs of our open southern border. Which we are already doing as these immigrants use social services at the highest level of any previous immigration.

“secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.”

Did the authors and supporters of the Constitution mean the posterity of the Spanish colonies? I don’t think so.

If someone in a foreign country want to secure the blessings of liberty that Americans enjoy, let them fight for it in their own country, or else apply for permission to join us here in our country. We will decide who gets to come here based on certain criteria like – no criminal record and the intent to learn the common language and become a fully integrated citizen, sharing our values.

And why do U.S. workers think they deserve those wages? It’s because they were lucky enough to be born in the United States.

Can you expand on why this is “luck”? Is it a freak accident of nature that the US has had better paying jobs, and a better functioning economy than in the Latin-speaking Americas? Why do the roads suddenly get better when you cross the Rio Grande? Why is the health care better, and available to all? Does speaking English somehow make things work better? Are there natural resources that suddenly vanish at the border?

Tell me why you suppose that there’s such a difference. Did the Anglos steal it all? If Santa Ana had kept Texas would everything be different? If Mexico extended to include California, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado, would Latin America somehow be affluent and the US be a third-world shithole? Is that the difference?

Yes, it’s unfortunate when you’re born into a dysfunctional society and economy. I wouldn’t want that. That’s obvious. But let’s turn that around. Let’s suppose that an American wants to go to work in Mexico or Peru or El Salvidor. Is that just totally cool with them? I don’t think so. Last time I checked it wasn’t. Why are you arguing for such asymmetry? Why should the US have to play by a different set of rules?

Let’s talk about open borders when the dysfunctional shithole governments down south finally get their shit together, and join the first world. Nobody’s standing in the way, but your own leaders. I think I speak for the vast majority of Americans when I say that I would be delighted if Mexico and other Latin countries were like Canada. We don’t have problems with the Canadian border. We don’t have a Canadian illegal immigration problem.

Why?