Comments on: The Democrats’ Health Care Scare Tactics

By: Objective

Objective — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:32:22 +0000

The proposed medical insurance health care is to start the ante at about $700 billion. We know that number project $18,000 per house hold. The Obama proposal intends to lower the current $27,500 per house hold to $25,000. (Somebody must be visiting the ER a lot.) If these numbers hold then the plan is to spend $18,000 per house hold to save $2,500 per household. That must be what stimulation must mean. Government efficiency must be an oxy-moron.

By: Hal

Hal — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:50:33 +0000

The problem with our leaders, who want to change our health care system is their fixation on the European system, which they want to install in this country. They ignore that the European system is going broke and is becoming unworkable.
When we have the Lawyers and politicians determining what we should have they ignore several facts and problems that drive up costs. Number one is the lawyers. Tort reform is must. A perfect example is John Edwards. A lawyer who is a multi-millionare by suing doctors for natural occuring birth defects. Mistakes should be paid for but millions for lawyers – No. Trace the money trail, Millions is spent by trial lawyers to protect their cash cow. Another problem is only looking at the Europing health systems. Looking at other countries (Taiwan for instance) we see very different health systems which are effective, lower costs and is not modeled after the currupted and rationed the Europeans systems.
The politicians should be forced to use the same system as the tax payers. When the Labor Party installed their Socialized system, the party leaders built their own private, modern hospital for their leaders
Solving our health care during a one day meeting is not too smart.

By: David W. Lincoln

David W. Lincoln — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:56:01 +0000

They want Canadian health care. Canadian health
care has rationing. They will get rationing.

Does anyone know when those pushing Canadian style health care actually went up to Canada to
see what kind of misbegotten abomination is up here?

By: DocDavid

DocDavid — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:32:19 +0000

It may be pertinent to consider the reports I have read that in Holland, one quarter of deaths now occur when the attending physician decides euthanasia is appropriate. The next question, of course, is how that decision is made. I suspect the bureaucracy would latch onto that power with extraordinary enthusiasm.

By: venividivici

venividivici — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:08:38 +0000

21. DavidN:

Great post. The only thing you forgot to mention was that of course the government would accurately predict how much it will all cost and it won’t cost a penny more. I mean, look at how accurately they predicted how much Medicare would cost!!

You people who support government-run health care had better be ready to pay 10 to 20 TIMES what they are telling you it will cost. And that’s with all the rationing, etc.

You’d have to be brain-damaged to want to sign up for that. Oh, wait, you clearly are brain-damaged. What was I thinking trying to stop you?

By: Kirly

Kirly — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:50:10 +0000

here’s my end of life decision… i’m 45 years old. 20 more years tops and i’m outta here!

By: JED

JED — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:04:13 +0000

Would you all please stop calling this scheme “health care.” It is not health care. The insurance companies and the government could care less about your “health”. It is about disaster control and enabling unhealthy practices. Medicare would benefit except that the retiree are living longer.
There are too many and complicated elements in this spiraling cost of medical insurance and attention. Let us keep this simple:
1. Supply and demand. The supply of the sick is greater than the ability of the system to medicate them. Obesity and the top ten killers are all dietary linked. The price goes up.
2. Litigation raises malpractice. Sometimes 50% of the birth fees goes to insurance.
3. Electronic records are not about health care, they are about future data mining of confidential information.
4. Governments and bureaucrats are inefficient by nature and budget design. Put them in charge of your health and develop a nation of lower middle class co-dependents. Study the health care of France where it is any doctor for a dollar.
5. The biggest predictable problem in health care is the larger population of baby boomers working their way through the system and living longer. The scheme of social security and medicare never predicted the ratio of workers to retiree that were begat 1946-1956. This is the snake which swallowed the porcupine and hopes that it doesn’t back up the system.

By: DavidN

DavidN — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:58:04 +0000

Yeah, but the government can do it better than private insurance and private health care. Every time we see a mistake made in a private hospital, every piece of care denied for erroneous reasons, remember: the government could do a much better job. They would never deny care to anyone, and all doctors employed by the government would be happy to take enormous pay cuts, and work the long hours for much less money. They’d also miraculously never make any mistakes again, and the whole system would work without a hitch. All we have to do is trust our President and our Congress to set up a health care system for the rest of us, and our problems are over. They of course are selfless enough to not avail themselves of this wonderful program; they’ll take their chances with the Congressional system already set up, though of course it’s very inferior. Why shouldn’t we trust them?

By: whyyeseyec

whyyeseyec — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:44:33 +0000

Oh, by the way, note to Janet 15 and Shef rogers 16.

The reason health care is expensive in the US is because the government has its grubby mitts in it.

Health care was reasonably priced and available until the government got involved with Medicare/Medicaid in the 60`s. That`s when the fraud started and prices began to rise as the gov`n set prices for what it would and wouldn`t pay for. Then add to that the constant lawsuits by `loiyah`s`suing for everything and anything.
Not to mention millions of illegals using emergency rooms for scraped knees and baby making.

Every sector of our business community that is struggling can be traced back to government sticking its big nose in our business through mandates and over-regulation.

By: hoads

hoads — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:41:58 +0000

Janet and Shef Rogers,

Of course the UK offers palliative care for the elderly. That’s the least they can do since they deny medical treatment to the elderly.

You both have obviously been blessed with good health because that is the beneficiary of socialized healthcare system–the “common good” equals what’s best for the majority so it is the minority of the sick and dying that must bear the brunt for the common good.

If the UK’s healthcare system is so great then why does Britain have some of the poorest health indicators in all of Europe? They’re #17 in 5 year cancer survival rates while US is number 1.