The ‘Cain Scrutiny’ Leads to a ‘Reassessment’
So far, despite the pretense of the establishment press, that has not happened. As Ann Coulter wrote in her Wednesday column:
Only two women (accusing Cain of sexual harassment) were willing to give their names.
(Sharon Bielak) produced no evidence.
The second one, Karen Kraushaar, made unspecified allegations of a “hostile environment” when she was working for Cain, but refuses to say what those allegations were. This despite the fact that the National Restaurant Association waived her confidentiality agreement, thus allowing her to go public.
… Ginger White claims she had a 13-year affair with Cain — and all she has are two books with inscriptions that could have been written to an auto mechanic who waited in line at a Cain book signing. Even her business partner during the alleged affair says White never mentioned Cain’s name.
… But this is how liberals dirty you up when they’ve got nothing: They launch a series of false accusations, knowing that Americans with busy lives won’t follow each story to the end and notice that they were all blind alleys.
Despite the past month’s obvious stress, Cain’s teleprompter-free, apparently mostly off-the-cuff public speaking performance and sense of his audience appear not to have suffered one iota since his informal appearance and after-dinner speech at Ohio’s grassroots “We the People” convention in July. In his Wednesday speech, he made but one reference to the controversies: “I have been attacked not because I have bad ideas” – read: my ideas are good — “they’re attacking my character, my reputation and my name in order to try to bring me down. I don’t believe that America is going to let that happen.”
Well, that remains to be seen, and it would really be important to find out. As I wrote at my home blog three weeks ago:
I’m only going on instincts here and no special knowledge, but those instincts are telling me that if Cain really is telling the truth, his decision concerning whether or not to tough it out until he either wins or loses the nomination — regardless of the outcome — may be one of the most important any presidential candidate will ever make.
I would be the last person to presume to tell Herman Cain’s unfairly suffering wife and family what to say or do. I would only suggest that God is not in the habit of giving people more than they can handle, and that it would be really nice for the rest of us to see the Herminator take his candidacy to its rightful conclusion, in the process hopefully consigning the politics of personal destruction based on flat-out falsehoods to the dustbin of history.
Also read: Herman Cain: Things aren’t always as they seem
“…it would be really nice for the rest of us to see the Herminator take his candidacy to its rightful conclusion, in the process hopefully consigning the politics of personal destruction based on flat-out falsehoods to the dustbin of history.”
Well said. Let’s take down the team Obama liberal thuggery.
I want to hear Cain’s wife say she knew about the financial assistance he was giving Ginger over the past 13 years and that she was OK with it. If she isn’t willing to go public with that, Cain is toast…. and Anne Coulter and Shawn Hannity are fools to defend him.
Agreed, up to a point. But I don’t think Cain’s wife should have to say anything. I think Herman Cain should have to explain why he chose this one woman for thirteen years of personal philanthropy. If, instead, it turns out to be more philandering, I think he will be finished. I don’t think he would be finished because he had to get out of the Presidential dog and pony show, but because he foolishly ruined his marriage. Most people seem hell bent to do that these days. That said, I don’t think Cain would have ever gotten my vote because I don’t think he is much of a leader and I sure don’t buy into the rocket scientist moniker.
I fully agree Wayne. If this woman was a family friend, then Herman’s wife needs to stand up and voice her thoughts on this whole ordeal. My sentiments exactly.
Dee, how do you know that they are “flat out falsehoods”?
He was in a “relationship” for 15 years while he was married.
That is hard to discount.
Men (and some women) tend to do things that harm their marriages; however …
There are other issues that came from his own mouth that disturbed me a great deal more than his personal life. I watched him for 72 hours in interviews on TV:
Paraphrasing:
These are his statements made in less than 72 Hours:
1) I would have Muslims on my staff (Muslims are allowed to lie to Infidels);
2) When asked about it? States that he “Misspoke (sp)”; in other words, he didn’t understand Muslims UNTIL
someone corrected him then he understood his error and said he Misspoke.
3) In the next breath, he still hadn’t learned from his first mistake and Changed it to — they can give me an Oath
(same mistake–Muslims allowed to lie to infidels);
4) I will have homosexuals on my staff;
5) Until politics he held Hard-line stance on Homosexuality as a sin
Homosexuality is a sin and a choice. Cain betrayed himself and his religious beliefs in order to be elected? Oh, My!
6) He apologized to Mexico for voicing “I will put an electric fence on the border.” (Hmmm, apologizing for America, sound familiar?
You can see the comment at the following URL:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/herman-cain-an-exceptional-american-of-african-descent/
Herman Caine’s campaign is being bank rolled by,”Skull and Bones”!
- Slick Corporate Salesman
- Skull and Bones Pilsbury company
- Worked for Coca-Cola
- God Father Pizza – Pilsbury Company
- Pilsbury Cartel – founding memmbers of Skull and Bones!
- Pro Torture
- Federick T. Gates involved and involved with and helped start David
Rockefeller organizations
- Held Position at Federal Reserve
“He was in a “relationship” for 15 years while he was married.”
You “know” that based on a single, poorly-supported allegation.
Cain admitted to helping her out financially. Did he get his wife’s approval for that? The answer to that question is important.
We know that this clown paid 80K to two females to keep their mouths shut about his advances to them. We know that he has not demanded any where and whens from his doxie- so he can disprove her allegations. When he issues a general denial, then bugs out he admits guilt. Herman has a zipper problem- in addition to being a tool of the International Bankers.
The smear campaign began as soon as Cain gained traction in the polls elaine! I can’t find a case for the rest of your comments!
Some choose to be so blind that they can’t find their own asses with both hands and a flashlight.
“Now I’m supposed to believe that Herman Cain, a guy who has “rocket scientist” on his resume, was a wildly successful businessman, and has analytical skills which put the vast majority of politicians to shame, recklessly decided to risk long-term family peace and run for president despite the near certainty that a past pattern of real sexual harassment and a genuine 13-year affair would come out in the process. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I’m not buying it, and before I will someone is going to have to present legitimate proof that the flurry of charges has any substance at all.”
Thank you.
There’s been about the same amount of “real” evidence of Cain’s wrong doing as has been presented showing how “intelligent” is Obama. In other words, “NONE”.
I believe that Sarah Palin articulated to the media the reasons that she would not enter the primary “race” … Mr.Cain is suddenly assessing those reasons??
As Cain intimated to Cavuto, “that’s not something you can figure out while on the road; it will require some face-to-face presence and frank discussions at home.”
Cain is; by the above statement … either admitting that he’s a moron or that he just got carried away with the idea that he wanted to be president without even so much as a thought about a real plan; part of which should be an implementation plan on how to deal with the media and their merciless visceral attacks. By his statements … I conclude he’s not a warrior.
I do feel sorry for Cain. Although he’s not my candidate (I still have fond hopes for Michele Bachmann or Rick Santorum, although I know they don’t have a prayer), I hate seeing a political machine destroy people of good faith and earnestness.
And what kills me about the Democrats is that these are the same people who moan and whine that not enough people “Get involved in the political process.” The Democrats will say that they want people “who will work for bipartisanship in Washington in order to get things done,” but in reality that’s the last thing they want.
They want you fat, dumb, and stupid. They want your life revolving around what I-Phone you can get or what I-Pod Touch your kid gets or what flat-screan TV you’re family gets. They want you very, very, stupid so that you don’t pay any attention to anything that’s going on in Washington, until it’s time for the next election, when they expect blacks, hispanics, and the middle class to automatically vote for them, even though they are actually worse off since the last election (don’t believe me, just take a look at the unemployment rates among black, hispanics, and the middle class). They want you to shop on “Black Friday,” but they never quite tell you how you’re going to pay off your credit card after that. They want you to buy a house you can’t afford, knowing that when you go bankrupt it’s really somebody else’s problem. And they think you’ll keep on supporting a huge welfare state because everybody loves “free stuff,” even though they never really tell you who’s going to pay for all of this “free stuff.”
So when an average citizen, someone who doesn’t come from the elite Washington establishment, has the temerity to run for office, well of course he or she must be destroyed (just look at what Sarah Palin went through). That person must be destroyed because he or she makes too much sense, because he or she actually has some fresh ideas, and because (and this is the worst part) they are actually too honest to know to be dishonest with the American people. No, such a person needs to be crushed like a bug so that the business of Washington can keep right on going. That is why that silly “Super Committee” didn’t go anywhere. Only a really cynical bastard would have come up with an idea like that. And as expected, the idea failed miserably. So we certainly can’t have a bunch of Herman Cains in Washington trying to change the way this type of business is done.
So feel bad for Herman Cain. He will lose and we will be the worse off for it. A Romney or a Gingrich will get the nomination, that’s for shure. Why? Because the Washington political establishment and the mainstream media demand it, you silly little fool. They will get what they want so most Americans can go back to being fat, dumb and stupid. They seem to like it that way.
What did Cain do to convince you that he is an “average citizen” and that the other candidates are not? I think every one of these candidates are way beyond average or they wouldn’t even be running for President. And what convinced you that an average citizen will do better, than an experienced political hack, at the single most political job in the world? These are just nit picky questions, but I found your post to be laced with several assertions that are not backed up by any evidence.
“Sure” is only spelled “shure” in southern Ireland. Aside from the fact that Cain’s data banks are almost empty, and his ability to plan for the necessary consequences of his behavior and/or statements is problematic at best, his long term adulteries show him to be an hypocrite and a liar; titles befitting a tool of the Fed and its owners.
Why so long? Well, whoever is behind what Cain insists is a concerted smear campaign will be happy to know that he may decide to abandon his presidential run not because of the strain he is enduring as a result of a series of sexual harassment charges followed by an “out of the blue” (Cain’s words) claim by a woman of a 13-year extramarital affair, but because he senses that it is becoming a burden his wife and family either cannot bear or should not be required to bear. As Cain intimated to Cavuto, that’s not something you can figure out while on the road; it will require some face-to-face presence and frank discussions at home.
He may also want to be satisfied that Virginia White won’t be releasing more evidence of their 13 year relationship.
She can’t release “more” evidence until she has released some evidence.
Cain is definitely NOT my guy, based on his own words and actions, but there is nothing credible about any of these accusations.
So feel bad for Herman Cain. He will lose and we will be the worse off for it. A Romney or a Gingrich will get the nomination, that’s for shure. Why? Because the Washington political establishment and the mainstream media demand it, you silly little fool. They will get what they want so most Americans can go back to being fat, dumb and stupid. They seem to like it that way.
The Washington political establishment didn’t cause Cain to not know the meanings of right of return and neocon. Nor did the Washington political establishment cause him to lie about the settlement of the sexual harassment complaints, nor cause him to not be able to say why he opposed Obama’s policy on Libya, nor cause him to speak on the phone to a woman at 4am and give money to her.
Yet another useful idiot.
Why? Because he states obvious facts?
If the accusations are false, it’s only a hint at what the general election will entail. The Republicans better dig up Mother Teresa and run her because the media is all in to re-elect Obama. Notice Ayers saying he did hold a fund raiser for Obama which Obama denied. Hear any media analysis (crickets chirping)? Ayers own words when he beat the system “Guilty as hell, free as a bird. What a country”. The Republicans are suicidal and part of the problem if they don’t go scorched earth on Obama. Screw the accusations of racism. You can’t fight by the Marquis of Queensbury Rules while your opponent gouges your eyes out with a broken bottle.
If this is a smear campaign, it seems more likely that it’s coming from Republicans than Democrats.
The accusation of a multi-year affair are still just that. Accusation.
No evidence of spoken conversations or their content has been made public.
No evidence of text messages from Cain to Ms. White has been made public.
No evidence of the content of any text messages between the two parties has been made public.
The verb “pay” has been inserted by third parties and does not come from Cain.
Accusations are not evidence.
61 phone calls over 4 months is evidence.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/From-the-Wires/2011/1129/Ginger-White-Her-phone-bill-has-61-calls-or-texts-from-Herman-Cain-video
What was the content?
What was the distribution?
How many from Cain?
How many from White?
Oh, please. Do you have to be hit over the head?
Oh, please. Do you always assume phone calls mean sex?
Actually, that is a very good question. If there was any questionable content in these text messages and phone cools, why hasn’t this women released them? Surely that would confirm her accusations, no? Moreover, 61 calls in four months. Do some math. Out of 120 days, that’s on average about 1 call every two days. If they were “friends”, I see no problem with this.
The phone calls make this claim more credible than the others, but gingers trail of instability mitigates the impact.
Keep in mind that marxists could find thousands of women to accuse an enemy of anything they want. The word “ethics” is a joke in those circles.
Unless someone comes forward who isn’t a serial scammer, Mr Cain should still be given the benefit of the doubt. And even then, the politics of such a person would have to be examined.
The problem I have with Cain regarding these accusations is that they all seem to have blindsided him. That’s mighty hard to understand about a man who is running for the most important job in the world. The two lawsuits were something he had to know about and 61 calls, whether they came from the woman or went to the woman, are things for which a prudent candidate should have prepared defenses against in advance. I don’t know what went on in his mind, but my hunch is that he assumed the women wouldn’t come forware, or that if they did, he would be given an Obama free pass.
You have to remember that Cain is pretty inexperienced as far as politics goes. Whereas Clinton may have been working on ways to rebut his accusors in every second of the day, Cain isn’t a politician. It’s also a result of his poor judgment in regards to who he chose as his campaign manager.
I agree, but that’s the knock against inexperience, isn’t it? Not that experienced people foresee every contingency either, but you expect them to foresee more.
In this slow moving avalanche, shouldn’t we at least have expected Herman to anticipate the Ginger disclosure? On the surface, it looks like he misjudged what she might do.
At some point, he has to tune into the fact that just about every female acquaintance he ever has had might at some point decide to grab her 15 minutes of fame, or whatever it is that motivates them to try to destroy a man’s life.
I think Herman is the kind of man who enjoyed being chummy with women, and since he wasn’t a politician, he wasn’t very careful about protecting himself. I men like that as late as the early 90′s.
Another example of behavior that is now verbotten is adult males being playfully affectionate with children other than their own offspring. Around about the early to mid-70′s, it became obvious that playing with kids, particularly physical contact, no matter how innocent the intent, was no longer something that a grown man could safely do.
The CEO of a corporation or the head of a trade association/lobbying group isn’t a politician? What color is the sky on your planet? I have yet to be convinced that Cain is any more than a poster child for affirmative action.
And I don’t know what circles you all travel in, but I don’t know many married men who have personal female friends that they just chat with on the phone. Other than women I worked with, every woman who’s ever had my private phone number was more than just a friend and I don’t think my experience is unique.
I had a lady friend who was nothing more, but Mrs. Reason didn’t like it so after a year of staying in touch after our jobs went separate paths, I had to put the kabosh on it. Even though the lady and myself weren’t a number, I could kind of understand the wife’s point…things have a way of changing even when you aren’t trying to make something happen.
I’ll bet a quarter that Mrs. Cain wan’t aware that Ginger was close enough to Herman to make and receive 61 calls.
@proreason – The latest statement is that the Missus wasn’t aware of his friendship. Well, who ‘ya gonna’ believe, your lying eyes or your lovin’ candidate?
I think the guy spent a lifetime with the path laid out and covered in roses for him because he did good things for the AA statistics, and it was inconceivable to him that anything could go wrong or that he couldn’t slide out of. I’ve known quite a few like him over the years; sitting in a token position with other people doing their job yet thinking they were actually doing the job, being a government tourist rather than employee as they went to conferences and classes all over the Country, even all over the World, expecting, and often getting, the women around them to just give it up because he was so wonderful.
“I think the guy spent a lifetime with the path laid out and covered in roses for him because he did good things for the AA statistics”
I’ve wondered about that a few times but there isn’t a lot of evidence for it, and since most of those types are on the other side of the political divide, it doesn’t do much good to suggest it. I was happy enough to have a black conservative on our side. But it did bother me to hear all of the rocket scientist nonsense, when you didn’t have to listen for long to realize Cain was good at repeating the conservative party line but couldn’t go more than an inch deep. I don’t care what his credentials are, if he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, it’s a problem. (that of course, IS some evidence for your claim, but it’s kind of thin.)
But when he published the postage stamp 9 9 9 program that seemed designed to destroy the country and the Republican party, and stunningly started to get some traction even though he changed it all the time and couldn’t explain it very well, I couldn’t take it anymore. For several weeks I was the only guy to speak out against Cain, and I took a lot of heat for it.
As far as the women go, the matter is complicated by the fact that we know the cuddly marxists will stop at nothing. And since every one of the women is seriously compromised, there simply isn’t enough evidence to say with much authority what went on. If I thought for sure he was a player, I wouldn’t mind saying it, but I don’t think it’s wise to go there unless you are prepared to back it up with more information than is available. Another way to say it is everything has to be filtered through the prism of the strategy of personal destruction that the marxists live and breathe. It makes the burden of proof steeper than it would be for a liberal, white or black.
Thank you for some welcome objectivity. I have to admit that I am uncomfortable with Bryan Preston’s and Christian Adams’ writings, their rush to judgement and the insertion of the word “pay.” A person is considered innocent until proven guilty.
I have serious reservations about *Cain the presidential candidate,* but he has to be given an even-handed treatment with regard to alleged wrong-doings, as *Cain the American citizen.* If he is exonerated, the false accusations against him will point up the sordid tactics of the Left and backfire on them. Whether he eventually gets the nomination is another issue that depends on his suitability as a candidate.
“The phone calls make this claim more credible than the others, but gingers trail of instability mitigates the impact.”
I’ve done a lot of investigations into complaints of sexual harassment or gender-based discrimination. In my observation, predators don’t predate on the strong members of the herd. One of the things that often made the allegations hard to investigate and substantiate was that the women were usually basket cases. What usually gets a harasser caught is he misjudges his intended prey and she doesn’t meekly submit. That is often the explantion for “clusters” of complaints; when one woman comes out, others follow suit.
I’ll admit to a jaded eye about these things because they’re often scammers or the office romance became harassment when she didn’t get the promotion, but there are real serial harassers and sexual predators in most any large workplace. When you’re dealing with a man who has real power over women around him, evidence of his having put himself in a position where one “could” believe the accusations was damning in and of itself. In today’s world, a powerful man who’ll let himself be alone with any woman he’s not married to is NUTS.
Eighty thousand dollars is a lot of evidence. Failure to demand that the accusers show their proofs is convincing.
If you were accused of a crime in Cincinnati on July 31 you could prove you were in Honolulu on that date, and be cleared. Why, then, would you not demand of your accuser the dates and places of the alleged infidelities- unless you knew there were, in fact, such incidents?
Answers: You were not sufficiently intelligent to perceive an appropriate response to the charge. Or, you forgot your attorney’s telephone number. Or, you were guilty. Or, you were emotionally overwhelmed by the allegations and had to run home so mommy could blow your nose and tuck you in. Or,you feared others coming out of the woodwork to add to the charges against you. Eh?
True. But enough evidence is there that Herman Cain needs to explain his relationship with this woman in a way that makes sense to most people, especially his wife. I haven’t ever had a thirteen year relationship with an unrelated women because I felt the urge to help her with her finances, even if I could have. My wife would not understand me if I were that altruistic, I would bet. So, it follows, at least, that there is a high probability that you have never been married.
The internal damage to Cain’s marriage and family is done.
The external damage, inflicted by the piranhas of the Press,
will continue as long as Cain campaigns.
My question is, do his attackers expect him to quit in order
to save his family pain, or do they expect to erode his voter
base ?
A bonus question: In the same situation, would MLK have said
‘Publish and be damned !’ ?
The media would have protected MLK. Republicans are treated differently, not just because of the anti-Republican media bias but because Republicans claim to be, and for the most part are, the party of family values.
Cain should have known this.
MLK JR was a Republican
Yes, he certainly would have flipped off public opinion! As a serial adulterer and plagiarist he was a person for whom morality had no meaning whatsoever.And his chances, at that time, to be elected president seem roughly equal to those of Cain at the present.
There is smoke. I’m skeptical of the other woman. Though White I tend to think may be credible (despite her checkered past) and at least there we may have fire. I don’t know.
Merits of the claims aside…..I think this is coming from the Obama camp (Axelrod) and not other Republicans. Part of it is instinct. But Obama has a long and extensive history of this kind of stuff. And until White the claims came from DC and Chicago w/ liberal backing (Politico and Allred).
It is much more important for Democrats to discredit a viable African American Republican candidate for President.
I don’t know if there’s truth or not behind these women’s claims, and on principle I am willing to give Cain the benefit of the doubt.
But it’s equally foolish to believe that just because he’s smart at business that he wouldn’t do anything like this in his personal life. Look at Clinton. Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar, but he still showed terrible character and judgment around women. Men who are socially successful are used to being succesful with women too (not unreasonably either – success, wealth and power are incredible aphrodisiacs), and this causes them to show a confidence and exhibit risk-taking behavior that occasionally backfires on them. For a man who doesn’t go into public life, that’s okay; the occasional angry rejection from women can be laughed off (or at worst, bought off).
And this pattern that these types of men live in for their entire adult lives (chase skirts; usually succeed; occasionally retreat) causes them to really believe it’s no big deal. Even their wives don’t usually mind, as long as appearances are kept up. But then politics happens, and suddenly the belief that they genuinely have no skeletons in their closet is revealed to be untrue. The standards of normal life and not at all like those in the political spotlight, and sometimes that suprises even “rocket scientists”.
Bill Clinton was a Democrat so the affairs, sexual harassment, and forcible rape don’t mattered.
+2.
Because this article needs, no, DEMANDS more than just +1.
It will be interesting to see if any of these claims against Cain are ever substantiated. Or if this is just an orchestrated personal destruction to make sure an outsider and Black conservative doesn’t get too popular.
I very much doubt that the accusations again Herman Cain will ever be substantiated. Herman Cain was not even on the Democratic Party’s or anyone else’s, including his own radar until his spectacular win of the Florida poll. I bet that was when the very orchestrated campaign to discredit him began. I started waiting for the dirty tricks against him to begin in mid-September when he said that peeling away a third of the African-American vote was achievable for him in the 2012 election. This would be the beginning of an avalanche resulting in the 50/50 distribution of a newly freed and empowered multi-generation African-Americans who are Socially conservative.
What herman Cain has going for him is his continuing likeability, the values of a southern Black man who survived the pre-civil rights era and against all odds rose from the bottom to a CEO. The only organization that was threatened by his candidacy is the ‘Progressive’ wing of the Democratic Party with its Saul Alinsky philosophy based on keeping the African-American population and very far left population under its control. The only thing they could invent was of having sex-related accusations with White women to innoculate themselves against losing the 30 to 35% of the African American vote. In this, I am afraid they have almost succeded. I say ‘almost’ because human beings have a capacity for fairness and this increasingly obvious and transparent attempt is very likely to backfire. Why? Because manipulators are what they are, namely, because they themselves are susceptible to manipulation and think the whole of the the rest of the population also sees through yellow, jaundiced eyeglasses that they wear day and night.
Is there anything pure about this?
Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
They do not pass this test.
Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
“Now I’m supposed to believe that Herman Cain, a guy who has “rocket scientist” on his resume, was a wildly successful businessman, and has analytical skills which put the vast majority of politicians to shame, recklessly decided to risk….that a past pattern of real sexual harassment and a genuine 13-year affair would come out in the process.”
Never underestimate what otherwise perfectly respectable human beings will do for sex:
“Lisa Marie Nowak (née Caputo) (born May 10, 1963) is a former American naval flight officer and NASA astronaut. Born in Washington, D.C., she was selected by NASA in 1996 and qualified as a mission specialist in robotics. Nowak flew aboard Space Shuttle Discovery during the STS-121 mission in July 2006, where she was responsible for operating the robotic arms of the shuttle and the International Space Station.
“Nowak gained international attention on February 5, 2007, when she was arrested in Orlando, Florida, and subsequently charged with the attempted kidnapping of U.S. Air Force Captain Colleen Shipman, who was romantically involved with astronaut William Oefelein [with whom Nowak was also involved romantically].”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak
and also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAM7Nj-P5hM
I usually respect Ann Coulter’s observations because she researches all of her facts before she presents her interpretations of them. But, I have thought from the first time that she indicated her support of Herman Cain, she had abandoned her usual skepticism and was engaging in wishful thinking about the best way to beat Barack Obama.
Ann Coulter has not lost her skepticism, she is skeptical of the type and timing of these unsubtantiated, unprovable and obviously choreographed mud-throwing. It is amazingly transparent and increasing in its transparency with each passing day. If Mrs. Cain has the strength that I believe she has, the Herminator will be going strong again before New Year’s Day 2012.
I say what I think Ann Coulter has done and you claim that you know what Ann Coulter has done. But you give no facts to support your knowledge. You give opinions. I stand by my opinion of Ann Coulter’s recent defense of Herman Cain.
Jim, you’re both giving opinions. You think Coulter’s recent writings indicate she has abandoned her skepticism. Clement does not. Don’t hold the fact that he doesn’t say “I think that…” before talking about Coulter. If he said “I know that she hasn’t lost her skepticism” you would have a point, but he did not say that.
I call them as I read them. There is a difference between an opinion and and assertion of fact. Leaving the part out about “I think or I believe” is crucial to separating the two in written language. More liberty can be taken with the spoken language, but Obama15 obviously wasn’t speaking to me. Nor was I speaking to you.
Cain’s problem is his ignorance on things like the Palestinian right of return, the Libya war, and numerous other inexplicable gaffes.
Who does he think he is? Obama? MSM darling liberal Obama could get away with 57 states, Austrians speak Austrian, Hawaii is in Asia,… But Cain is not a liberal, he is up against a MSM creation, he has not a chance.
I fully agree with your comments…no one will ever have all the details at their fingertips, and if they do I am suspect of their knowledge source.
PS…right of return was for Jews and the law was instated in 1950 and then later modified.
I don’t even know how Cain responded to this question and I don’t care. Like they say, “you need a pilot’s license before you can learn to fly.” The challenge is in judging how long it will take you to learn. I expect Cain will learn quickly and make the correct decisions based on his faith, experience, and education.
The author of this article is stating HIS OPINION of the STATE OF THE CAIN CANDIDACY, nothing more.
The most recent polls from Florida indicate to me, that Herman Cain still has as much support as the erstwhile ‘survivor’ of the Republican Primary Race to be the Nominee, Mitt Romney. Newt Gingrich is already far ahead of Mitt Romney but He could just as easily flame out as the others have done.
Should Herman Cain decide to remain in the race after discussing it with his wife and children, which I hope he will, I would not be surprised at all, that by the end of the primary voting season, if he did not end up being the Nominee of the Conservative Party, the Transformed Republican Party.
We have to LOUDLY demand evidence until this thing is either shut up or brought to light. We cannot allow unfounded accusations do our choosing for us. If we do, the already dirty process will become a battle of who can do the other candidates in, in the most spectacular manner. There are so many sheep who will follow the latest rumor right over the cliff. The media will not dig for this truth. It is their goal to look for the spectacle.They really don’t care about truth, only the number of viewers they can get to hold their breath for the next salacious utterance from their lying lips. You should care about this even if Mr. Cain is not your candidate, because yours is next victim in the opposition’s sites.
This piece really hits the nail on the head, Tom. As I’ve said to others, thanks for writing the piece so I didn’t have to. One less thing to do today.
Annina: Monsieur Rick, what kind of a man is Captain Renault?
Rick: Oh, he’s just like any other man, only more so.
Let’s hope cain stays in the race.He’s not a houseplant like the rest of the candidates.This newest accusation is nonsense if you think about it because no woman is going to have a long term relationship and not become very possesive.From seeing several people i’ve known to have women on the side the women actually contacted their wives at home in less than 3 or 4 months let alone 13 years.
This episode has Axelrod and the Chicago Machine written all over it. SImilar tactics were done against other Obama opponents. I believe Kane
Are you referring to “Citizen Kane”?
Not enough proof for me. Right now the mudslingers are pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel in their search for compromised women to use in this attack. Ann Coulter is right in pointing out the absolute ferocity and desperation of the attackers. Assuming these charges to be untrue, we all owe Herman Cain a debt of gratitude for standing strong against this pack of jackals. And if true, particularly in light of Clinton,Edwards,Kennedy and a host of other politicans with compromised moral activity irrespective of party, Herman Cain still has the right to run. And say what you will about Herman Cain he is a patriot, who loves this country and is committed to liberty and a nation of smaller government, free enterprise and the rule of law. A far cry from the path that Barack Obama is dragging us.
It was always my hypothesis that men as wealthy, arrogant and well entrenched as Kennedy, Kerry, Biden and Dodd HAD to have honeys on the side. Each had to have a string of women over the years, provided by unions or lobbyists or just young eager girls come to Washington for a job or adventure. The media could be relied on to cover for them as with Edwards.
Why doesn’t some patriot or patriotic organization offer a bounty for information? There have to be waitresses in Georgetown or on the Eastern Shore who have been stiffed by some arrogant Senator, who would come forward for a couple of hundred bucks.
Sure, and the only people who’d ever hear about it are people who get their political news from conservative internet sites and from talk radio, just like F&F and a bazillion other criminal acts by Democrats generally and this regime specifically. ‘Course, on the “women” thing, Democrats don’t have a monopoly by any means, the media just isn’t interested and their constituents don’t much care.
I am more concerned about Cain’s foreign policy faux pas and deferring to “experts” (lack of serious thinking on the issues) than I am about the alleged sexual misdeeds.
A friend told me that Cain hired an attorney from Germany to handle the women’s stories. All he has to say is: “Nein, Nein, Nein!”
Just wanna say that I had sex with Roger L Simon. He should now sell PJ Media and go home, lock himself in a room and live in shame forever.
Was that a hypothetical argument of moral equivalence, or was it just you trying to brag? Sheesh.
How much money did he give you? Did you call each other at 4am? Cain has now acknowledged his wife didn’t know about the money. Naive Republicans will now concentrate their support on historian Newt Gingrich who has already declared that he’s the nominee. Those who are hosting the debates in the 2012 general are looking for a room big enough to support the egos of Gingrich and Obama. I recommend a baseball stadium where the lies can just float away.
I assume you were drunk, took a cab to his place, and woke up wondering what happened.
its for certain allot of people posting here just dont get it, this man is being attacked, people are out there using these gold diggin bimbos to do their dirty work. and its working for the fact that to many people are buying the crap. all this came out only when Cain was clearly on the top of the polls, why not before? why not when he ran for the senate? it only happened when he was ahead. get a clue
Cain’s peccadilloes were of no interest to anyone until the possibility arose, however remote, that he might be the Republican standard bearer. Get a clue.
I am sure that I will not be interested in your dirty laundry until it appears that you could be my President. So, stop worrying about it.
Was talking to my barber today. He told me about a woman he and his wife had over to their house. About a week later this woman wrote an e-mail, wondering why when they met, Dereck hadn’t hugged her like the other guests had. She wondered if he didn’t like her. A couple weeks later there was another visit and this time Dereck joined in the hugs. A week later his wife received an e-mail saying that this woman was offended by Dereck’s hug, as it had sexual connotations. She said that because the wife was there, she wouldn’t press charges, she just wanted to voice her objection. The next time this woman phoned, Dereck picked up the phone and told her to eff off. He told his wife, she does not come In our house.
This is the type of sick women that are out there. I told him he was lucky that it happened in the order it did. His wife was able to see how twisted this woman really was. She was out to destroy an innocent man! I wonder if this rings true to Herman Cain.
Obama’s electoral victories prior to 2008 were made possible by smearing his opponents with unsubstantiated sexual misconduct allegations (made possible by MSM co-conspirators). The odds are the attacks on Cain come from the Obama-Chicago machine once again aided by the MSM. I’m not going to provide links because readers of PJM should be capable of researching Barry’s political career on their lonesome. Get real or be lazy.
And meanwhile the Terrorist, Criminal and Communist associating ‘man with no history’ the Document hiding autobiographic BS writing USURPER. The man about whom there are countless GAY rumours AND sworn statements. The man who declared ‘I a have always been a Christian’ but who was born to a Muslim father adopted by a Muslim stepfather schooled and brought up as Muslim and has ALL of his paternal relatives as MUSLIMS Barrack HUSSEIN Obama gets a free ride from the Lame Stream EneMedia STILL.
Agree! If Mr. Cain quits, America loses and George Soros wins. Period.
Only way extraordinary amounts of funds being expended in this campaign cycle, on the democratic side, is to “follow the money.” The “puppet master.”
Gloria Allred, bimbettes, et al. Now a Ms. White. No money. A history of having mismanaged her personal life. Totally broke. Now has an attorney? A body language expert would readily interpret her demeanor (in interviews) as questionable at best…and outright lying, at worst. Texting? Of some 67, 40 were confirmed and of them a handful had responses…especially at 4:30a.m.
This is a classic case of “gotcha.” These instances, brought to light, occured well into Mr. Cain’s election bid…kinda makes one put 2+2 together, doesn’t it? The “puppet master’s” fellow travelers? Remember, Follow the money. Period.
Why is the Black community silent? The Black community had a larger outcry in Rodney King’s arrest than in Mr. Cain’s crucificxion. Why? Rev. Sharpton, Jackson, Wright…all silent. And the Black Caucus, too. All silent. Black community leaders…silence. Really strange!
Yes, Mr. Cain’s candidacy is fraught with nefarious forces aligned in his demise, i.e., DNC, RNC, MSM and Wall Street. These are We The Elite People of Washington DC. If Mr. Cain were elected President, he would divest every We The Elite People of Washington DC of their hard fought “spheres of influences” (read:turf). He would end the “Culture of Corruption.” Funny this aliance: Obama, DNC, RNC, MSM and Wall Street aimed at destroying Mr. Cain. Mr. Soros wins again. God Bless America. Vote 2012.
Most women would beg Cain to stay and kick out their deadbeat boyfriends. A woman not only needs a lover but an understanding guy that picks up the bills. The door is open for Cain and we want him to stay.
I guess Cain’s wife didn’t agree with the part about her husband loving and supporting another woman. Imagine that.