The 1929 Arab Terror Attack: When Hebron Became Occupied Territory
“On hearing screams in a room I went up a sort of tunnel passage and saw an Arab in the act of cutting off a child’s head with a sword. He had already hit him and was having another cut, but on seeing me he tried to aim the stroke at me, but missed; he was practically on the muzzle of my rifle. I shot him low in the groin. Behind him was a Jewish woman smothered in blood with a man I recognized as a police constable named Issa Sherif from Jaffa in mufti. He was standing over the woman with a dagger in his hand. He saw me and bolted into a room close by and tried to shut me out-shouting in Arabic, ‘Your Honor, I am a policeman.’ I got into the room and shot him (Bernard Wasserstein, The British in Palestine: The Mandatory Government and the Arab-Jewish Conflict 1917-1929).”
“Now let me tell you about the massacre. Right after eight o’clock in the morning we heard screams. Arabs had begun breaking into Jewish homes. The screams pierced the heart of the heavens. We didn’t know what to do. Our house had two floors. We were downstairs and a doctor lived on the second floor. We figured that we would be safe in the doctor’s apartment, but how could we get up there? The stairs were on the outside of the building, but it wasn’t safe to go out. So we chopped through the ceiling and that way we climbed up to the doctor’s house. Well, after being there only a little while, we realized that we were still in danger because by that time the Arabs had almost reached our house. They were going from door to door, slaughtering everyone who was inside. The screams and the moans were terrible. People were crying Help! Help! But what could we do? There were thirty-three of us. Soon, soon, all of us would be lost (Letter of a Survivor).”
When the terrorist massacre finally ended, the surviving Jews resettled in Jerusalem. Some Jewish families tried to move back to their homes in Hebron, but were removed by the British authorities in 1936 at the start of the Arab revolt. In 1948, the War of Independence granted Israel statehood, but Jews were cut off from Hebron, as the city was captured by King Abdullah’s Arab Legion and ultimately annexed to Jordan.
When Jews finally gained control of the city in 1967, a small number of massacre survivors again tried to reclaim their old houses. Then defense minister Moshe Dayan supposedly told the survivors that if they returned, they would be arrested, and that they should be patient while the government worked out a solution to get their houses back. Dayan never got around to it — guess he was too busy giving away Jewish rights to the Temple Mount.
The Memorial of the Jews of Hebron, as submitted to the high commissioner of Palestine, closes with these tragic words:
In the name of sixty-five slaughtered, fifty-eight wounded, and many orphans and widows; in the name of the remnants of the plundered and tortured we accuse:
1. The [British Mandatory] Government, which did not fulfill its duty and provide protection for its peaceful and defenseless charges.
2. The Governor, Abdullah Kardos, and the Commander, Cafferata, who deprived us of the means of appealing for help and defense, betrayed us with empty promises and gave the murderers and robbers their opportunity.
3. The police, which did not fulfill its duty, and behaved with contemptible baseness.
4. The emissaries of the Mufti and the Moslem Council, in particular the Sheikh Talib Narka and his colleagues, those mentioned above, as well as those who have not been mentioned, who proclaimed the massacre and permitted murder and rape.
5. Also the inhabitants of Hebron (with the exception of some families) who did not rise up to help their brothers and neighbors in accordance with the commandments of the Koran …
Some 80 years later, that memorial still rings true. Arab terrorists are still using false charges as an excuse to attack innocent Jews in Israel — now they receive help from the mass media and organizations such as Human Rights Watch. UNIFIL, which was appointed by the UN to protect Israel’s northern border, does nothing to prevent a missile buildup by terrorists, and there are no moderate Muslims standing up to their terrorist brothers.
Eighty years after the Hebron Massacre, the world community still does not stand up to Arab terror and still does not care about the blood of one more Jew.
In 1929, the Jews of Hebron learned that they cannot rely on anyone else for protection. The terrorist attacks of that summer led to the strengthening of Jewish armed forces, such as the Haganah, to protect the Jews in the Holy Land.
Some 80 years later the government of Israel must remember that lesson. The leadership of her allies change — some will be willing to help Israel, some will abandon her.
In the end, there is no country other than Israel which will protect Israel.
No one has the right to dictate whether or not Jews can live in Judea and Samaria. That real estate was given to the Jews for “close settlement” by the League of Nations and the UN is mandated to support all of the decisions that were passed to it. Until Israel and whatever barbarian entities they may decide to deal with conclude a treaty, those lands are LEGALLY and MORALLY open for Jewish settlement. At best Judea and Samaria are disputed territory and any other mendacity that you read here or anyplace else is absolute BS. End the Arabs occupation of Judea and Samaria and allow Jews to live wherever they please in the tiny land of their ancestors.
Since when are people told where they can and cannot live based on their ethnicity or religion?
Ironically, only Jews and only in Israel!
Over 80% of what was the Mandate of Palestine which was proposed in 1921 by the League of Nations (unfortunate date I know for u Holocaust proponents) to be divided 50/50 between the ARAB Muslim INVADERS and the original ethnic occupants the JEWS is now in the hands of the ARABS including TWO Arab states Jordan and Syria. But its ONLY the JEWS who have less than 20% of the land who are being asked to give up territory, HYPOCRISY
And Obama and the EU want us to trust their word??????Or maybe the jews of Israel should trust in the good offices of the Swedish foreign Minister! We will only trust in ourselves and G-d.
The only way Jews can protect themselves is to stand up and be willing to do violence to those who wish to do violence to them. The Jewish people have been getting their arses kicked for thousands of years. The time has come for every freedom loving person ((Jew and non-Jew)to take a very hard stand against anyone who spits out anti-semetic venom. And a word to you brave Israelis: when they come for you stand up and fight! It’s the only thing the animals of the world respect.
Look at the photo of the newspaper with the news of the massacre !
In the center column under the main title !
It’s a devilish puzzle !
“Allies quit Rhineland by June”
The devil of appeasement was setting the stage for the Beast !!!!!!
It was darkness inside darkness !!!
It “was” ?
Or is ?
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
It’s good that you note the anniversary of this terrorist attack.
When Israel haters tell me that Pali terror would end if only the Israelis did this, that or the other, I tell them about the Hebron massacre, which occurred long before Israel was a state. To most leftists, the history of the Arab-Israeli troubles begins in 1967, when those bad Jews took over the West Bank (for no reason whatsover).
2. Shifra:
Since when are people told where they can and cannot live based on their ethnicity or religion?
Ironically, only Jews and only in Israel!
Still laughing about this.
By the way Benoit, I know your itching to delete my posts. But guess what? The more of them you delete the more likely my first post–the one that posited that you’d have no more than 10 comments, which is the most any Israel piece gets because people here simply don’t care about this issue–the more likely it will come true. I don’t care if you delete this. I know you saw it and we both know the truth.
Yes, articles on Israel seem to be a bit of a niche market on PJM–even that bothers moho!
MoHO, I’ve nominated you for Feteke. Enjoy.
Having just published my first book, The Price of Liberty – A Novel, I read this post with great interest, as it touches on a subject and theme I dealt with extensively therein.
Someone (Golda Meir?) once said, “There will be peace in the Middle East when the Arabs start loving their children, more than they hate the Jews.”
I believe this statement to be true.
The cycle of “blood for blood” will never end, until the Palestinian people – and the Arab world, in general – finally and irrevocably, recognize Israel’s right to exist, and to live peacefully alongside them.
Unfortunately, too many Arab “leaders” have exploited the plight of the Palestinians for their own purposes – Nasser, Arafat, Saddam Hussein, just to name a few.
This is why it is so important for Iraq’s experiment in self-government to succeed, and for it to become, if not a “Jeffersonian Democracy, like the United States(?), then a parliamentary democracy, in the style of Turkey.
This would be a tremendous example, and serve as a symbol of hope, for the disaffected throughout the middle-east, that there IS, in fact, something to look forward to in THIS life, and not merely the ethereal prospect of cavorting with 72 “doe-eyed virgins” in the next.
And though it’s also true that, for the sake of military or political expediency, in the 61 years since its establishment Israel has occasionally done things, or allowed things to be done that it shouldn’t have, (i.e. – the Lydda Death March, the U.S.S. Liberty incident, the Sabra-Shatila Massacre) when placed in the context of its daily fight for survival, these sad incidents can be somewhat understood – though certainly not excused or condoned.
It is tragic WHENEVER the innocent suffer – no matter what race, no matter what religion.
Having said that, however, there are those who try to draw some sort of moral equivalence between the innocents who are killed when Israel targets a member of Hamas or Hezbollah hiding among them, and the suicide bomber who blows himself or herself up, on a crowded bus in Haifa or Tel Aviv.
Let me be clear. There is no moral equivalence.
Eighty years later, as we remember those who died – and the world sits idly by, as Iran continues its quest for nuclear arms – the real tragedy of the Hebron Massacre is that sadly, the land of Abraham and Isaac, Ishmael and Jacob seems no closer to peace than it did on that muggy night so long ago.
T.W. Elliott
LCDR USNR (Ret.)
p.s. – The Price of Liberty – A Novel is available on-line at amazon.com, or at the following website:
https://www.createspace.com/3389002
Yo, M oHo, you still bagging at Costco??
“Since when are people told where they can and cannot live based on their ethnicity or religion?
Ironically, only Jews and only in Israel!”
Try some parts of Saudi Arabia if you aren’t a pull start, Same for parts of Indonesia. China hates all religion.
There will be peace in the Middle East when the Arabs start loving their children, more than they hate the Jews.
I am more cynical: I belive there will be peeace in the Middle East when Arabs are not allowed to make war for free. When we tell the Saudis that they feed Palestininans, when we cut UN funding to Paledstinians so they have to work for, when every Kassam built means tightening their belt another notch, when every Kassam fired means paying the damages caused (including the disruption in Israeli lives) not to mention N squere miles territory taken off.
Paldestinans have been sixty years and countingh living at our expenses. Enough is enough. Not to mention that there are people starving in Darfur.
8. Moho: – It’s all about you huh? too funny, albeit pathetic.
And here, the last 300 or so Jews remaining in Yemen, after years of escalting threats, kidnappings, assaults and murders, have been forced to flee to Israel:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/07/yemen-jews-exodus-arab-countries
Gee, I hope Obama let’s them build some houses.
I believe Golda Meir’s complete quote was:
“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”
On of my favorite quotes belongs to Moshe Beilinson. When he was asked how much longer would Jews have to fight, he answered, “Until the most fervent warrior in the enemy camp realizes that there is no means by which to break Israel’s power in its land, because it has necessity and living truth on its side. Until they know that there is no other way but to make peace with Israel. This is the purpose of our struggle.” Interesting to note he said that on the onset of the bloody 1936-1939 Arab Revolt. How true it still rings today.
Im an arabic hebron resident and i would say that i feel shame for what happened to those innocent people in that period but i would add also thing that rarly writers say about that time of massacre that there were some arabic families who protected jews during that time and they offer for them the shelter and help , and those protected jews keep the contact with those arabic families even after 1967 , really there are many humanist stories that can be told about this .
And for those who believe peace can be acheived with groups like Hamas, let me quote from their charter:
“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it…”
“… the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. ”
“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”
” The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
‘The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’”
Also, keep in mind that when Palestinian politicians speak of “ending the Israeli occupation,” they are usually NOT referring to Gaza/West Bank, but to ALL of Palestine. Ending the “occupation” is a euphemism for terminating Israel.
Israel may be guilty of executing or allowing certain atrocities during its short history (and should live up to this reality). But keep in mind this is a people who have faced mass extermination time and again, at the hands of the Russians, the Germans, and many others, who, upon returning to the Middle East, were met with the same rhetoric of death and anhiliation they had just left behind in Europe. Those attitudes persist to this day. I wonder if the French, the Swiss, or any other group would have behaved any differently if faced with similar existential threats.
Calling Arabs “Palestinians” is an effect of Soviet propaganda, concocted with Nasser in Egypt in 1964 when they invented the “Palestine Liberation Organization.” The name “Palestine” was given to Judea by the Roman Emperor Hadrian in 135 A.D. when he had defeated the last of the Jewish uprisings, led by Bar Kochba. He changed the name of Judea to “Palestina” in order to forever eradicate all memory of Judea and the Jews. “Palestine” then became synonymous with “Land of the Jews” or “the Holy Land” and “Palestinian” became synonymous with “jew”/ That is why the Zionists wanted the “Palestine Mandate.”
Chileno:
But keep in mind this is a people who have faced mass extermination time and again, at the hands of the Russians, the Germans, and many others, who, upon returning to the Middle East, were met with the same rhetoric of death and anhiliation they had just left behind in Europe.
I know you’re an expert on Israel and everything, but the majority of Israelis don’t have European origins. 60% of them are Jews who came from the Arab world. You people seem to forget them whenever you create your narrative of Israel. Its an odd thing, I find, but lately has made sense when combined with the other fantastical narratives available at Pajamas Media.
“18. Firas:
Im an arabic hebron resident and i would say that i feel shame for what happened to those innocent people in that period but i would add also thing that rarly writers say about that time of massacre that there were some arabic families who protected jews during that time and they offer for them the shelter and help , and those protected jews keep the contact with those arabic families even after 1967 , really there are many humanist stories that can be told about this .
Aug 23, 2009 – 4:33 pm”
I sincerely hope they get told–perhaps a publisher will take an interest, if you know of someone who could write it up.
Gee, I hope Obama let’s them build some houses.
Maybe you’ll let them build the houses in a place where you actually own the land, rather than asking other people to make room for them. How about you invite them to build the houses in your backyard, rather than asking Palestinians to let them build houses in their future state. Nitwit.
Winston Churchill, before the First World War, saw that the Royal Navy needed to be modernized. So, it went from a coal-powered Navy, to an Oil powered navy.
In “Reilly: Ace of Spies” we see reports reach Whitehall of oil in the Caucasus Region, but they were dwarfed by the oil reserves further south in the Middle East. Guess who owned the lands?
We see yet another example of too many eggs put in the basket that bears the economic face of history, and frankly not enough emphasis on a chronicle of what was done in the past, or ideology.
There is an alternative to what has been done in
the past, and what is currently being done, but
it will take different people to effect that change, because it is simply too threatening to those who have their grubby paws on the levers of power.
People like Nonie Darwish need to have people who can be counted upon to be even-handed to run
the government until there are enough people from the governed who will govern even-handedly.
Which is not the case at this time.
thank you for writting this piece S. Benoit.
Israel is like the cannary in the mine. as goes Israel so will go the rest of democracy. THIS IS NOT JUST A FIGHT FOR THE ISRAELIES, all those who value freedom and democracy have an EQUAL STAKE. ignore at your own peril.
DON’T FEED the TROLL(s)
here is a short video clip …it highlights how marxism has been using education to spread their ideology in north america
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTmbcyeZ9ic&feature=related
it is all in this short clip ..why trolls, or most democrats keep using the same arguments regardless of what they are shown.
Moho:
“…but the majority of Israelis don’t have European origins. 60% of them are Jews who came from the Arab world…”
It never ceases to amaze me how you can fudge your data. No, most Israelis do NOT come from Arab lands. The number is closer to 40%, and most of those immigrants came between 1948-1951, AFTER the creation of Israel and the defeat of the invading Arab armies. And the ones usually “leaving out” the Jews of Arab origin are your own leftist comrades, who love to weave their own Israeli narrative as merely one of post-Holocaust guilt, nothing to do with centuries of yearning to return to their rightful homeland.
And your point is moot. You’re making a distinction with no difference. Just like European Jews, most of the 680,000 Jews of Arab nations that migrated to Israel after its creation did so out of fear of persecution. Many were stripped of their citizenship and robbed of their possessions, forced to migrate with little more than the shirts on their backs. Do you think THEY have ever been compensated for their losses?
“These forced immigrants from Arab countries, that constitute together with their descendants, almost half of the Jewish population in Israel… are angry and hurt that whereas the plight of the Palestinian immigrants is so well known and researched, their own tragic history has almost disappeared from history.”
( http://www.hsje.org/forcedmigration.htm )
These immigrants, like the Europeans, were escaping hate and persecution in their own lands. Yet what kind of neighbors awaited them upon entering Israel?
“If the Jewish State becomes a fact [the Arabs] will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea.” Hassan al Banna, founder of the Musliim Brotherhood, 1948
“‘This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.” -Azzam Pasha, Arab League Secretary, 1948
“Arabs, arise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor. God is with you.” Amin al-Husayni, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, 1947, the same Mufti who had conferred with Hitler, showing interest on how to export the Jewish “Final Solution” to Palestine.
So I restate my original premise: The majority of Israelis can trace their immigrant roots to persecution, either in European or Arab lands. They have committed or allowed others to commit some undeniably atrocious acts. But this is a people who were being threatened by Arabs that they would be obliterated, and “pushed into the sea,” a people who had heard similar threats come true before, by the Nazis, the Russians, and many others who over the centuries have slaughtered Jews.
I hope this dissipates the tempest in a teacup you so valiantly stirred up.
MOHO the antisemite is in flow on here. Perhaps the Jew Hater can explain why Israel who only has less than 20% of what was the Mandate of Palestine is the ONLY one being asked to give up land. Also why you legitimise the invading Mohammedan ARAB ‘right of conquest’ but think this right should be denied to Jews and as there is not and never has been a Country or State called Palestine why do you refer the ARAB Mohammedan invaders as Palestinians. You cannot occupy or be a refugee from a non existent country and the Mohammedan ARAB invaders already have TWO States in what was the Mandate Jordan and Syria and over 80% of the land why should they have a “RIGHT’ to ANOTHER State and more land?
re: #26
I meant to end stating:
“So I REPHRASE my original premise: The majority of Israelis can trace their immigrant roots to persecution, either in European OR Arab lands.”
In case any other fool wants to cover his lack of argument by splitting hairs again.
Ladies and Gentleman may I suggest that you avoid feeding the Trolls
Moho:
“Gee, I hope Obama let’s them build some houses.”
Maybe you’ll let them build the houses in a place where you actually own the land, rather than asking other people to make room for them. How about you invite them to build the houses in your backyard, rather than asking Palestinians to let them build houses in their future state. Nitwit.
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Moho:
Yes, let’s make absolutely certain that all potentially disputed areas are judenrein.
It’s for the best, really.
One has to applaud Moho for his stubbornness in making himself a fool at this site. He should be grateful that at this site, unlike Dissenting Voice, dissenting voices are allowed – like his. I think he belongs there, however, considering his views – particularly on Israel. Of course, should he go there, he ought to wear headgear to protect his ears in the echo chamber….
Yes, let’s make absolutely certain that all potentially disputed areas are judenrein.
Well, let’s have them all come here then. We certainly wouldn’t want to imply that every Jew who wants to come to America–sans immigration process of any kind–shouldn’t be able to. We wouldn’t want to be called Judenfrei. You people are idiots; Luntz’s Judenfrei bs will fail as miserably as all the other disinformatory PR campaigns that keep him in toupes.
Such a tragic piece of history that is often overlooked. The US public schools teach of Israel only existing since 1948. The Nation of Israel has been on that land for thousands of years.
Moho, I seriously think you are a plant to keep the conversation going on these threads. There is not one person alive who could be so argumentive and negative about all things.
Chileno
Israel may be guilty of executing or allowing certain atrocities during its short history (and should live up to this reality). But keep in mind this is a people who have faced mass extermination time and again, at the hands of the Russians, the Germans, and many others, who, upon returning to the Middle East, were met with the same rhetoric of death and anhiliation they had just left behind in Europe.
This what you wrote. Its you who can’t get your history or people straight.
Non European Jews account for 2,655,000 million of the total Jewish population of Israel. The number is far closer to mine than yours and they are a majority–>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel.
The point is not moot. You excuse Israel’s every action by pointing to the holocaust. But the majority of Israeli Jews have no ethnic connection to the holocaust whatsoever; they are not European.
My, Mojo,
Yo DO want to make a fool of yourself on this sight. Chileno is a nice guy, and he is standing up manfully for us. And it is you who cannot read. He did not mention the holocaust specifically. He talked of Russians and Germans. But he ain’t part of the Tribe, Mojo. I AM. So listen up. I don’t have to be nice to you – or polite.
Likely as not you are the descendant of some of these so-called “civilized” Europeans, who called us “Christ-killers”, “well poisoners”, who accused us of drinking the blood of Christian children, who accused us of murdering Christians to use their blood in matzót. You are, likely as not thge descendant of savage bastard who cheered when Jews died, raped their women, got drunk and massacred them in their neighborhoods or got on smelly horses to ride off and kill the infidel in the “Holy Land” – and decided to bloody your sword on Jews instead. I could go on and on and on, but I don’t want to bore everyone reading.
I just want to make the point that Europeans are a pack of savage murdering bastards who are no different from what they were 1,000 years ago, 2,000 years ago or 3,000 years ago. Because I know my history at least as well, I can talk about Italians, Frenchman, Englishmen, Swedes, Finns, Swiss – the whole lot of the Europeans who pat themselves on the back telling themselves how damned civilized they are. When I look at the way they treated MY people, I can tell you and anyone else reading that Europeans have learned absolutely nothing from the two Tablets of Law Moses carried down from Horev in Northern Arabia over three millennia ago. And while I’m a Jew – I’m certainly NO European – you are likely the descendant of a European. You are no better and no smarter. Perhaps you don’t stink as much, and perhaps you live longer. And that’s about it. And you are no different from the rest of the human race that has chosen to persecute us.
We Jews are ONE people, from the olive skinned fellow who was born in Algeria, to the black man who was born in Ethiopia, to the Asian born in Assam, to the children of the refugees of European Jew-hatred. It doesn’t matter what percentage we are in Israel – we are still ONE people. And all of us have come home, and those who came from Europe fled the uncivilized European bastards and Jew-haters there. But all of us have the goy who was happy to murder us off and persecute us – whoever he might have been. We all know of the hatreds of the goy for us.
So when some damned Arab drunk on Wahhabi hatred screams mawt al-yahúd or al-yahúd klabná – we know. When some cross bearing Ethiopian priest brags about Menelik out of one side of his mouth – and spits “Falasha” out of the other – we know. When some smart-assed Midwesterner talks about a rag-sheeny or “jewing down” the price of a car – we know.
But getting away from your sick hatreds are not the main reason we have come home, Mojo – it was just the immediate one. We have come home because the possibility was there for us to fulfill the words of our prophets who promised us that we would be gathered from the four corners of the earth to settle OUR OWN Land in the End of Days. And that is what is happening.
The holocaust was not the reason for a Jewish State – it merely quickened events and realizations to speed them up.
The words of our prophets have come true, and continue to come true for us, Mojo. It would do you well to learn what our prophets warn for you. It ain’t pretty.
” . . . The point is not moot. You excuse Israel’s every action by pointing to the holocaust. But the majority of Israeli Jews have no ethnic connection to the holocaust whatsoever; they are not European.”
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What’s your point? Nearly 800k sephardic had their citizenship, businesses, accounts, homes confiscated by surrounding arab governments as retribution and were forced to flee to Israel – and they’re still be hounded to this day by the same people. (In fact, as noted earlier, another 300 were driven out of Yemen just this summer – the last remnant of their community in Yemen, btw). Are they any less deserving than the European jews?
Likely as not you are the descendant of some of these so-called “civilized” Europeans, who called us “Christ-killers”, “well poisoners”, who accused us of drinking the blood of Christian children, who accused us of murdering Christians to use their blood in matzót.
Well, I’m not. Does that mean the rest of your crazed writings don’t apply to me? Cause I didn’t read it anyway. I suppose being Jewish qualifies you for a sympathetic ear in these parts. But brother, I could give two sh***s. If your analysis can’t stand on its own two legs, why would I care. As I said, I don’t give a rats ass about Israel anymore than I cared about what happened in Rwanda.
DON’T FEED the TROLL(s)
here is a short video clip …it highlights how marxism has been using education to spread their ideology in north america
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTmbcyeZ9ic&feature=related
it is all in this short clip ..why trolls, or most democrats keep using the same arguments regardless of what they are shown.
Yes, George S. How dare anyone use education. People should stay ignorant like you all.
As I said, I don’t give a rats ass about Israel anymore than I cared about what happened in Rwanda.
Boy, Mojo. Talk about self-revelatory posts!
De Culo; I’m not sure why its so important to you that I be white. You can think of me that way if you want, its not something I have any interest in proving or disproving. My assumption is that you’re points are so weak, that you think this is a way of undermining the eviscerating critiques I’ve made of your fantasies here. Keep on trying, little culo face.
Not all the Arabs in Hebron participated in the massacre. Some remained aloof, and some helped the intended victims to escape. Many hid in pits, in trees, in bushes—anywhere to be out of sight when the torrent broke loose. And many were concealed by friendly Arabs. One Arab gave shelter to thirty people, including the old Rabbi Slonim.
I think the point is Muslims are still at it today. Murder, and lying in the name of a moon god named allah.
ROPMA!
If I was Jewish, I would make sure I understood basic line of fire, and BZO my weapon/s. Don’t wait for your Mother to do it for you.
this is not a Jewish or Israelie problem. it is a battle for democracy verus dictatorship.
one can tell a lot about which side of the argument a person is on and how he will act and react when your life or your democracy is at stake.
Moho: First you say, “60% of [Israeli Jews] came from the Arab world.”
Then, “Non European Jews account for 2,655,000 million (sic) of the total Jewish population of Israel. The number is far closer to mine than yours and they are a majority”
Either you’re very stupid or very deceptive. Either way, you’ve changed the subject, and still can’t get your numbers straight. On the very Wikipedia page YOU QUOTE, the total number of Jews in Israel is over 5.9 million. Your number, 2,655,000 equals 44.9%. Tell me again how this number is “closer to mine than yours and they are a majority”?
In any case, I don’t see where you got that number, because it appears NOWHERE in the page you quote. The numbers that do appear show Ashkenazi Jews at only 47.6%, but that number does not include Mizrahi Jews from southern Russia. So first, you include Jews from India, Pakistan, Central Asia, Turkey, etc. to prop up your sorry assertion that 60% of all Jews in Israel “come from the Arab world,” and even then it’s debatable whether they reach “a majority.”
If you add up the numbers in the page YOU QUOTE from all ARAB nations listed (Moroco, Yemen, Algeria/Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, and Syria), it totals to 2,071,000, or 35% of Jews living in Israel. Tell me again how this is closer to your number??
And as you consider Wikipedia to be reputable enough to quote, here’s one, from the page referring to “Jewish exodus from ARAB LANDS”
“By 2002 these Jews and their descendants constituted about 40% of Israel’s population.”
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands )
I’m sure you’re not that stupid, which means you ARE very deceptive. That’s worse, because an idiot can always claim not to have known what he was doing. You know exactly what you’re doing. You fudge your numbers to fit your agenda. Who’s the fanatic extremist now???
Moho: “You excuse Israel’s every action by pointing to the holocaust.”
No, that’s what you in your sickly mind would like to believe I said. I said, “the Nazis, the Russians, and many others who over the centuries have slaughtered Jews.” If you’d read anything besides your left-wing blogs, you’d know I was alluding to pogroms around the world ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom ), including the Russian pogroms of the 1880′s and 1900′s, where thousands of Jews were killed or had their homes destroyed. Even your prophet Obama alluded to as much in Cairo, saying, “Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries.”
For those who believe Jews in Palestine lived well before the modern era, here’s a great account of the 1834 Safed pogrom, in Palestine: http://www.zionism-israel.com/log/archives/00000349.html
I repeat the statement I rephrased (and you conveniently omit): “The majority of Israelis can trace their immigrant roots to persecution, either in European OR Arab lands.” So no, I do not need to point at a European Jewish calamity. There are plenty of Jewish calamities outside Europe.
And no, I do not “excuse” the Jews. That’s the word you decided to use. I said Israel should “live up to the reality” that they are guilty of executing or allowing certain atrocities. A sane person would understand I meant they must admit their mistakes, despite there being mitigating circumstances. But then again, you who are so blinded by hate will only read what you want to believe is written.
Hey Ruvy!
Thanks for your words of support. But don’t waste your time accusing Moho. Given his intense hate for anything remotely White/Republican/Conservative, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a Left-wing member of some minority, and feels empowered with a sense of immunity, that he can say anything and never be called a racist. (Hey, in that case, I can never be a racist, after all, I’m Hispanic!)
little culo face
I couldn’t help checking out culo to make sure I was right as to what I thought it was; my Spanish is a bit rusty, and the Hebrew I’ve learned living here has driven out most of el español from my mind.
I wonder who Mojo was referring to? To feed the troll just a bit more, I don’t give a rat’s ass how much melanin is in his skin. If he doesn’t care what happened to folks in Rwanda, why should he waste time on buckra like me, or the Jews who died in pogroms in Tzfat, Damesek or anywhere else? That he doesn’t give a damn speaks volumes about his humanity – and is extremely self revelatory. Humanity is not something determined from the amount of melanin in the skin, the color of the eyes or the hair or body type. And anyone who doesn’t know that is a fool, as well as a racist.
Firas,
assalamu aleikum
Given that you live in Hevrón, and you cite the fact that Arabs did hide their Jewish neighbors during a murderous riot, and more to the point, that you are ashamed of the behavior of the Arabs in 1929, you are brave to speak up at all. I salute you and your bravery.
One has to pray that voices like yours can be heard loud and clear in the Arab communities in Israel – and that the true peace-loving Israelis – the ones who believe in G-d and the ultimate reconciliation of the Children of Israel with the Children of Kedar and Nevayot – will pay attention and stop viewing all Arabs as mere wind-up dolls of the Wahhabi heretics.
Ruvy. If he doesn’t care what happened to folks in Rwanda, why should he waste time on buckra like me, or the Jews who died in pogroms in Tzfat, Damesek or anywhere else?
Yes, or even Gaza! Shudder. Rather than pick and choose my favored victims throughout the world, and distort my morality accordingly by asking my country to intervene in the affairs of others, I’d sooner leave the affairs of others to others. If you feel strongly about your Israeli cause, then I suggest you move to Israel. If you’re already there, I wish you’d stop nagging us every five seconds to be your nursemaid and get you out of all the troubles you get yourself into. I don’t think the US should have intervened in Rwanda. I don’t think the US should intervene in Israel. The fact that Tutsis suffered at the hands of Hutu, or that Jews suffered at the hands of Europeans shouldn’t have any bearing on how our government conducts its foreign policy. Quit whining and solve your own problems/.
Mojo,
1. I live in Israel.
2. I want your government to get its interfering hands OUT of my country; take your soldiers out, keep your money, keep your foreign aid, and keep your damned interfering diplomats out of our hair.
3. Stop training Arabs to kill us. If not, eventually, we will stop worrying about killing Arabs and concentrate on killing you Americans.
3. Get your hands off the deals our defense industry makes with other nations; they are none of your business.
4. If you don’t, rest assured that the day will come when Jews like me will send Americans home in body bags from Bethlehem Israel to Bethlehem Pennsylvania. It will be my pleasure to so!
In summary: GET OUT AND STAY OUT!!! YANKEE GO HOME!!!
Got the message, culo-face?
There is more opposition of Israeli actions in Israel by jews then it seems in the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9DN2Oi0-w&feature=related
I am anxious about critising Israel here because posters believe everyone is anti-semitic,if you do.
Ehud Olmert said that his country must withdraw from the Occupied Territories, which it has held since 1968, including East Jerusalem
Despite the evacuation from Gaza, Israel controls all the Territories, an area with a population of 5.5 million Palestinians, almost the size of the Jewish population.
In 1967, the United Nations designated the Territories, through Resolution 242, to be the Palestinian state.
http://www.btselem.org/English/About_BTselem/Index.asp
David Ben-Gurion quotes,
If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti – Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
nam123 David Ben-Gurion quotes (Polish born Israeli Statesman and Prime Minister (1948-53, 1955-63). Chief architect of the state .
There is another side to this issue but don’t just believe me,
http://www.refusingtokill.net/Israel/IsraeliSoldiersExposeGazaAtrocities.htm
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10411.shtml
Some of us might have genuine issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
The false institutions of Mohammed and claims of Arab lands has troubled the world now decennia’s long, and must come to a stop.
Even the golden age of muslims never existed: http://www.islam-watch.org/iw-new/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138:europes-dark-age-islams-golden-age&catid=92:john&Ite.
The more lenient we are the more influence muslims will claim.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1248188089986&pagename=Zone-English-Living_Shariah/LSELayout#4
1. I live in Israel.
2. I want your government to get its interfering hands OUT of my country; take your soldiers out, keep your money, keep your foreign aid, and keep your damned interfering diplomats out of our hair.
3. Stop training Arabs to kill us. If not, eventually, we will stop worrying about killing Arabs and concentrate on killing you Americans.
3. Get your hands off the deals our defense industry makes with other nations; they are none of your business.
4. If you don’t, rest assured that the day will come when Jews like me will send Americans home in body bags from Bethlehem Israel to Bethlehem Pennsylvania. It will be my pleasure to so!
In summary: GET OUT AND STAY OUT!!! YANKEE GO HOME!!!
Well, you seem a bit confused. I suppose you think that taking 3 billion dollars of US money a year comes with no strings attached or something. Your list boggles the mind; number one would have been fine. Everything else would have followed from there. We wouldn’t even ask you to pay back all that money we gave you with nothing in return. Just stop bothering us with your petty problems. Man up and do whatever you think is necessary, but just leave us out of it. Stop asking us for money, stop asking us for no interest loans, stop asking for us shielding in the Security Council, and stop asking us for weapons. Your country reminds me of a friend of mine’s spoiled brat teenager.
Firas–many of us in Israel are aware that the only reason some Jews survived in Hebron was because their neighbors were G-d-fearing people who protected them. Likewise, few Tunisian Jews were actually deported to Nazi death camps because their Moslem neighbors warned the Jews to hide. Moslems in Bosnia helped hide Jewish families from fascists hunting them. During the Second Intifada, a police officer died when he tackled a suicide bomber to protect nearby civilians from death–and the police officer was a Moslem Arab. Islamic civilization is full of people who have acted bravely in defense of all lives, and the pity of it is that many in the west don’t know this–when the 24 hour news shows only bombings and beheadings and describes the perpetrators as Muslim extremists, and people don’t know any Muslims personally, then stereotypes grow so that westerners mistakenly equate Islam and Moslems with terrorism. I hope to live long enough to see this change, and for Israelis and Palestinians to live as good neighbors. Ramadan Mubarak!
Ruvy,
shalom
thank you for this comment , yeah i do agree with you that we should always pray that peace comes on this land but at the same time we have to work on the ground for bringing this peace ,unfortunatlly both people always concentrate on the darckest things we had and they forget the things that bring people togother ,finally i would add a verse written both in quran and talmud which say (WHO SAVES ONE LIFE HE SAVES THE WORLD ENTIRE).
Peace is possible
Sarit
Thank you and ramadan mubarak for you .
yeah i agree with you about the misrable picture of muslims nowdays that is because of some fanatics , that i think we have to defeat them and their ideolgies also as u said the media plays a role in increasing this view , i think as we are humanist people that we should work againts fantism in all of its pictures .
Peace on you
Stop asking us for money, stop asking us for no interest loans, stop asking for us shielding in the Security Council, and stop asking us for weapons. Your country reminds me of a friend of mine’s spoiled brat teenager.
Moho,
Don’t you read? Can’t you read? Maybe you need to go back to second grade and start with Dick and Jane all over again.
“Dick chases Jane. Jane chases Spot. Spot chases his Dick”.
If I were prime minister here, your diplomats would be persona-non-grata, and their planes shot out of our sky if they refused to leave; your money would be refused; your soldiers would be kicked out along with their defective second rate weaponry; and the Governor of the Bank of Israel would be told to hold only those dollars absolutely necessary for the State to function. The rest would be dumped – or Stan Fischer would be sent packing to the United States, and his replacement would dump your worthless trash of a currency. There would be votes against us at the UN for us executing the bastards sent here who inflame Arab terror, along with their European and American running dogs; and the scum who have asked your country for money all along and brought us into this mess of America’s making – from Peres and Netanyahu down – would be lined up against a wall and shot.
YANKEE GO HOME! GET OUT AND STAY OUT!
Got the message?
Just a note. I can’t stand M16′s. The damned things jam too often! I’d much rather have a Kalashnikov – or better yet an Israeli-made rifle.
Firas,
Ramadan mubarak!
Peace is indeed possible – particularly without the interference of imperialist outsiders who do not care anything about us who live here. It is people like you and I who need to sit across the table figuring it out – based on our common beliefs in the Qur’an and the Torah. The terrorists in Ramallah and Gaza will not make peace with the thieves and murderers on Government Hill in Jerusalem. There is no peace to be had that way. The terrorists must go – the thieves and the murderers must go. Otherwise, we face continued rounds of death and violence that neither of us want.
Oscar is back.
Moho keeps misspelling his name, its really spelled Moron. I think we should all help him remember how to spell it correctly.
Moron you play a nasty game. You are dismissive when any real points are made against you. You don’t seem capable of fact vs fact type of argument and resort to belittling anyone’s facts. You really don’t even rate a comment.
Firas,
Ramadan mubarak!
Perhaps we can go beyond nice words here and look at a specific idea submitted by a colleague of mine, Joel Bainerman, who lives not too far from you in Teqó’a, The One State Solution. Joel is an economist, an entrepreneur, a writer and an activist, and focuses, as I do, on bringing more prosperity about for the region he lives in, for both Arabs and Jews without interference from outside imperialists.
I see JEW HATER MOHO is back on his hobby horse again so come on JEW HATER tell us what the Palestinians, Egyptians,Jordanians, Lebanese, Kosovans , Pakistanis, Afghanis, Iraqis should be doing to PAY BACK all the BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of Dollars the USA has spent on them. Oh sorry its only JEWS you are worried about of course you ANTISEMITE.
Moho is hateful and prejudiced:
In an earlier, bigoted statement, he claimed all Republicans are racists, and in his idiotic mind thought himself brave in stating, “I have no desire to hide my hate and disrespect for all of those involved in this bs. I do hate you.”
Moho is deceptive::
As shown above, he distorts the truth or makes up false claims. When faced with the fact that even the pages he cites don’t back up his claims, he ignores the comment, in the hopes nobody will notice. Or he resorts to ad hominem (cara de culo, Mojon?). He’d be better off working in MSNBC than posting here.
Now Moho proves he’s also selfish and ignorant:
While he apparently adores anything Obama does, which includes creating a giant government nanny state, allegedly to “help” the American poor. But when discussing foreign aid, he says, “I wish you’d stop nagging us every five seconds to be your nursemaid and get you out of all the troubles you get yourself into… Quit whining and solve your own problems.”
Such strong words, why don’t you apply them to the 43 million Americans who pay no federal income tax?? I guess helping the poor really means helping American poor, the ones that are of his kind or his political affiliation. Other poor people can burn in hell for all he’s concerned. Even if those poor were suffering genocide, as in Rwanda, he could care less. And the conservatives are supposed to be the heartless ones?? This also shows that when dealing with international geopolitical considerations, and how these could affect the US, he’s got his head stuck in the sand.
And finally I’d say Moho is a narcissist:
He loves to post his asinine comments in PJM so that others will pay attention to him. After all, if he’d stick to his left-wing blogs, he’d be ignored as just one among many left wing empty heads. I should’ve heeded the advice not to “feed the trolls,” but I couldn’t resist….
You elitist PC nuts really get me:
In an earlier, bigoted statement, he claimed all Republicans are racists, and in his idiotic mind thought himself brave in stating, “I have no desire to hide my hate and disrespect for all of those involved in this bs. I do hate you.”
This is bigoted, how? And where did I claim they were all racists. A PC elitist liar, now?
As shown above, he distorts the truth or makes up false claims. When faced with the fact that even the pages he cites don’t back up his claims, he ignores the comment, in the hopes nobody will notice. Or he resorts to ad hominem (cara de culo, Mojon?). He’d be better off working in MSNBC than posting here.
If this were true, then it should have been easy to come up with an example. And you didn’t.
But when discussing foreign aid, he says, “I wish you’d stop nagging us every five seconds to be your nursemaid and get you out of all the troubles you get yourself into… Quit whining and solve your own problems.”
That’s exactly what I said. We both know you don’t give a crap about Rwanda, you just want the US to give more of our money to Israel.
Finally, the fact that you’re doing this must mean you’re getting worried now. Worried that I keep dismantling all of your specious constructions with well-reasoned critiques. It bothers you, because you can’t play at this level. Your ideology springs from baseless assumptions and self-serving beliefs. There’s no factual basis to it.
Chileno,
It’s not for me to tell you not to feed the trolls, having generously handed Moho many culo-fish to chew on.
The only thing he’ll understand (if he’s capable of understanding at all) is a Jew who tells him that we do not want anything to do with America; we do not want American money; we do not want American “protection” (bearing in mind how America “protected” South Vietnam and Georgia); we do not want American advice; we certainly do not want American weapons. In other words, America has nothing of substance to offer us. She used to, when she was a prosperous country, but now she is a pauper in debt to Wahhabi thugs and Chinese slave-masters, and sinking further in debt daily.
But we Israelis have to back up our end of that bargain, and as long as mendacious little phallic organs like Netanyahu are running around begging for American money, trolls like Moho can spit with contempt. And he will.
Do I have to spell this out fully for you, Chileno? The scum at the top of Government Hill in Jerusalem have to go – for the same reason that the scum in Ramallah and Gaza have to go – they have forfeited the right to lead their people. Since both el-FataH and Hamas were installed in power in one way by Israel, we will have to eliminate both – but first we need to eliminate the scum on Government Hill in J-lem.
Ruvy
shalom
i have read the article about the OSS which i belive in but not like in this way ,i think continuing thinking in this way is just a temprorary solution , i belive in OSS based in a democratic bi national secularist state where there no diffrence between a group over another.
Firas,
Ramadan mubarak!
I agree with you. The annexation of Judea and Samaria would be a temporary solution. As Arab society grew and developed within the State of Israel, without the crippling effects of terror and occupation, or the humiliations occasioned by roadblocks and searches, where Arabs could exercise equal rigthts, with the blessings of peace, stability and economic growth, the country would become a bi-national state over time. In other words, you would get most of what you want – and I would get most of what I want. Neither of us would get everything.
Joel Bainerman has out-done the fools in Tel Aviv who think they believe in peace. For years Israelis tried to figure out how to annex the land (Judea and Samaria) without annexing the people – you. Joel says essentially, “forget that garbage – the people come with the land. We’ll take them in and we’ll all grow together – in peace.” I agree with him.
That also means that your grandson and my grandson can serve together in one single army to defend the country if needed. Why not?
Ruvy
shalom
i do agree with you in most of things you have mentioned and i think we have a majority here who want the one state solution ,the question here do we have the same majority in the israeli society ?
i strongly agree with you that we should look for our childrens future i think it the time to stop this conflict and begin the process of reconciliation .
kol h kavod
salam
Great article, Sammy. Too bad comments are highjacked by anon/ psuedonomous folk unwilling to admit to the junk they write.
History of Israel/Jews and Arab/Muslims should be much more fully exposed, especially Turkish census numbers, and the fact that “Palestinians” never controlled any of the land. What the Arabs are asking for needs to be clearly seen:
Two boys are splitting a cake. One says he wants half, the other says he wants it all. They negiotiate: the second says, let’s start with agreement. We both agree I should get this half, so I’ll take it. Now, we disagree on who should have the other half…
Israel probably needs to take MORE territory, and occupy it heavily, and impose human rights protections on women and children and those Arabs willing to criticize Arabs as well as Israelis … with the idea of having territory it can ‘give back’ in order to get peace.
Arabs can’t live in peace with Jews until after they “have won” something. So Israel needs to take more, to have something that Arabs can win back.
The model democracy that Israel should aspire to is Switzerland, with German, French, and even Italian & Romansch languages; with Catholics & Protestants, with a President (nobody knows) because there is so little power at the top. Cantons handle most gov’t functions.
Most Swiss also learn English. Israel should forcing those in the occupied territories to learn English.
Ha, ha! That was too funny!!
Moho: ” where did I claim they were all racists”
Moho (in http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/smile-youre-on-government-camera/ ):
“the most virulently racist Democrats became Republicans… Republican conservatives who were not racist… became independents or Democrats.”
“Republicans are the conscious inheritors of the Democratic party’s Jim Crow history…”
“Racism, xenophobia and homophobia. Its the entire reason for the Republican party’s existence.”
“Republicans wouldn’t elect an African American… Republican politicians culled out the worst of the worst, those people who could not abide racial parity, and created a new polity out of you.”
“The fact that you’re bigots and that you’re movement is a response to a black president is duly indicated… ”
But you neeeever claimed all Republicans were racists. Nooooo.
Moho: “If this were true, then it should have been easy to come up with an example” Wow, you must have dementia to forget so quickly. Or you’re up to your deceptive tricks again (Ooooh! Evil Moho strikes again!!) Please see post #45 above. First you say 60% Israeli Jews came from Arab lands, when proven wrong, you say “a majority” of Israeli Jews are “non-European.” When even that is questionable by your own alleged source, you remain silent.
In http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/smile-youre-on-government-camera/ You rave how there are no African American Republicans in Congress. You quote from a Wikipedia page, but fail to mention the page states the first African American Senator elected since Reconstruction was REPUBLICAN Edward Brooke, from Massachusetts (1967-1979). You fail to mention it took until 1993 for Democrats to elect an African-American Senator, which by logic, must imply there’s plenty of racists still in that party. But of course, you’re silent on all this, as it doesn’t fit your rabid anti-conservative/Republican agenda.
Moho: “We both know you don’t give a crap about Rwanda” Now you read minds?? Ha, ha, add that to your long list of self-imagined superpowers! Unlike you, I put my money where my mouth is. I’m not the selfish bastard you seem to be. As a good Catholic boy, I regularly send out my donations to the Oblates, Salesians, Maryknoll Brothers, Catholic Relief Services, and many more charitable organizations that work throughout Latin America and Africa (yes, even in Rwanda). True, I do consider Israel to be more important (particularly as 250,000 AMERICANS live in Israel), though I really could care less how much aid goes to Israel. Israel is an important ally, but so is England, Canada, Mexico, Colombia, etc.
Moho: “the fact that you’re doing this must mean you’re getting worried now.” Oooh! Yeah, you’ve really got me shaking in my socks! Tell the truth, I was curious to see how you’d respond. But the flaccidity of your comment was more worthy of pity than concern.
“well-reasoned critiques”? Oh, that’s good! Let me get my pencil and write that one down! Keep repeating that to yourself, maybe someday even you will believe it! All you spew is hateful, unconstructive bs that only serves to show the world what a bitter little man you are. Ha!
Anyway, this has been great. But I really must be going. After seeing you whimper away, I know there’s little more to expect in this conversation. You sound like my neighbor’s chihuahua, yapping away, thinking himself so important. Pobrecito Moho, se quedo corto! Ha, ha!
Ruvy, I’ll see you around! You know we have our differences in opinion regarding Israel, but I do wish you luck in your endeavors. May the Lord bless you and keep you!
Firas,
Ramadan mubarak,
I suspect it may be time to move our conversation to a place where it can be more fruitful, and where there will not be the interruptions of others….
You can go to my blogsite, Ruvys Roost and get my e-mail address from there, looking under “my complete profile” – or whatever it says in the Hebrew indicating e-mail – and contact me.
I’ve already contacted Joel Bainerman and others who share my views that peace with our cousins can be reached without dealing with terrorists or the thieves and murderers on Government Hill in Jerusalem.
Where there is hope for peace, I, a believing Jew, am mandated to pursue it. As you have pointed out. “He who saves one life is like he who saves the world entire”.
Salaam
Tom Grey
it seems to me that you live in another plant or you dont know what its happening here , go and read more about the nature of the conflict and stop thinking in the old mentality that they should occupy more lands this will never bring the peace and just to know that we have a majority here who speak english may be better than yours .
english is our second language
The world is making a grave mistake by allowing Islam to continue. I don,t mean to kill all muslims. I only want to say that it is a one way journey. Either you allow Islam and keep getting killed and terrorized or do something. If there is a God , I will believe him only after he removes such a curse from our society. Atleast now we are getting the truth by media. Guess what will happen when we don,t do something and the muslims start purchasing media companies or forming their own-in shirt increasing their influence. Then all these will do whatever terror,rapes of slaves,killing kafirs with ease. They did this when they used to burn whole libraries and universities. They killed innumberable people from their origin. Why? They are told to do so by Hadith & quran. Morever they have material benefits from enslaving defeated country/people’ men and women. Slavery & racism is rampant in Islam. They love blood.
We should ask Muslims to genuinely check for the truth of their religion. We should be dealing with them compassionately helping them to leave their barbaric religion while helping them outgrow Islam. http://www.prophetofdoom.net is a good site to learn Islam. It is based on authentic hadithes and quran. It tells of the behaviour of muhammad. Plz help your muslim friends leave Islam. But I tell you more leniency will work in disfavor of humanity. At the very least we should never tolerate fanatics.
F.ck all jews
The time will come when you we will kick u out of palestine you laying SOB’S PALESTINE is our’s and will continue to be to the end of time.ARABS ARE COMING.