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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-198066</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly, I&#039;ve been called a Leftist again, and I didn&#039;t even notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly, I&#8217;ve been called a Leftist again, and I didn&#8217;t even notice.</p>
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		<title>By: chris in Toronto</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-197873</link>
		<dc:creator>chris in Toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egad! I cannot believe that Vivo &amp; I agree on anything! 

: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egad! I cannot believe that Vivo &amp; I agree on anything! </p>
<p>: )</p>
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		<title>By: Ratatosk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-197011</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratatosk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ya know what, as a taxpayer, I say install a bare bones Linux implementation and tell ‘em to get back to work.&lt;/i&gt;

HAHAHAHA!

100% truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ya know what, as a taxpayer, I say install a bare bones Linux implementation and tell ‘em to get back to work.</i></p>
<p>HAHAHAHA!</p>
<p>100% truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronsonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronsonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya know what, as a taxpayer, I say install a bare bones Linux implementation and tell &#039;em to get back to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya know what, as a taxpayer, I say install a bare bones Linux implementation and tell &#8216;em to get back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: tomw</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-195809</link>
		<dc:creator>tomw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:
75. Joe Camel:

One needs to understand that most “code” today is outsourced (read offshored) to other countries. We (US) do not write much code in use today.

 Does that apply to the OS internal to Cisco boxes and the like?  Or the OS that runs on the Blackberry that O&#039;ma uses?  Or the apps?
 Paper and pen, stuffed in an impervious envelope, hand carried is apparently the only way communications can be truly secure.  Or similar...
tom

p.s Mac vs PC ... whatever does the job at hand, though I thought the recent Mac adverts a whole lot too smug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:<br />
75. Joe Camel:</p>
<p>One needs to understand that most “code” today is outsourced (read offshored) to other countries. We (US) do not write much code in use today.</p>
<p> Does that apply to the OS internal to Cisco boxes and the like?  Or the OS that runs on the Blackberry that O&#8217;ma uses?  Or the apps?<br />
 Paper and pen, stuffed in an impervious envelope, hand carried is apparently the only way communications can be truly secure.  Or similar&#8230;<br />
tom</p>
<p>p.s Mac vs PC &#8230; whatever does the job at hand, though I thought the recent Mac adverts a whole lot too smug.</p>
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		<title>By: Ratatosk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-195791</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratatosk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Col. Smeg,

&lt;i&gt;First: I guess there’s nothing wrong being partisan if your a Liberal like you, I guess the first amendment only applies to Liberals.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s right. Only we Pinko-Liberal-Goose-Stepping-Fascists get freedom of speech. It was entirely because I didn&#039;t want someone to freely speak that I posted. With guys like you around, I&#039;m sure the GOP will be on top again in no time.

&lt;i&gt;Second the fact that no one is concerned about a lack of concern for White House Security. You could leave a IPhone in a building with a wireless server and hack into it. I give full credit for The Secret Service and FBI but hackers look for back doors. People tend to use the same passwords for everything. If a hacker cracked a face-book pass word that’s one step closer to breaking in to the White House.&lt;/i&gt;

What?

I mean really... WHAT?!

Do you actually work with Information Security? Are you aware of what tools are available today to combat issues like rogue wireless networks? Did you know that there are automated Intrusion Detection/Prevention Systems that can detect rogue networks and throw an RF blanket on them? As for passwords, in any secure system these days a password is a small piece of a complex solution based on layers of security. Two-Factor authentication, device authentication etc. should, in a secure network environment, render a recovered password as a low risk.

The only &#039;risk&#039; associated with the info Charlie&#039;s discussing is indirect. Data massaging, Traffic analysis, social engineering... those are all real risks and can only be mitigated via educating the users on what they should and should not share, or how they interact with network services and tools.

&lt;i&gt;Third: I could care less what kind of computer someone uses.&lt;/i&gt;

Good for you. I personally don&#039;t care... as long as they can actually manage the tools. For example, I don&#039;t care that people choose to use Windows. I do care that they don&#039;t understand the risks associated with it and thus unwittingly host zombies, worms and virus loads that then attack my systems or bogs down the net with useless and malicious traffic. 

If a person knows the Windows OS and understand the need for immediate patching, careful browsing, high security configurations, front end firewalls (as well as OS firewalls), this won&#039;t be a problem. If they don&#039;t care to know that sort of thing... they should probably get a Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Col. Smeg,</p>
<p><i>First: I guess there’s nothing wrong being partisan if your a Liberal like you, I guess the first amendment only applies to Liberals.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s right. Only we Pinko-Liberal-Goose-Stepping-Fascists get freedom of speech. It was entirely because I didn&#8217;t want someone to freely speak that I posted. With guys like you around, I&#8217;m sure the GOP will be on top again in no time.</p>
<p><i>Second the fact that no one is concerned about a lack of concern for White House Security. You could leave a IPhone in a building with a wireless server and hack into it. I give full credit for The Secret Service and FBI but hackers look for back doors. People tend to use the same passwords for everything. If a hacker cracked a face-book pass word that’s one step closer to breaking in to the White House.</i></p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>I mean really&#8230; WHAT?!</p>
<p>Do you actually work with Information Security? Are you aware of what tools are available today to combat issues like rogue wireless networks? Did you know that there are automated Intrusion Detection/Prevention Systems that can detect rogue networks and throw an RF blanket on them? As for passwords, in any secure system these days a password is a small piece of a complex solution based on layers of security. Two-Factor authentication, device authentication etc. should, in a secure network environment, render a recovered password as a low risk.</p>
<p>The only &#8216;risk&#8217; associated with the info Charlie&#8217;s discussing is indirect. Data massaging, Traffic analysis, social engineering&#8230; those are all real risks and can only be mitigated via educating the users on what they should and should not share, or how they interact with network services and tools.</p>
<p><i>Third: I could care less what kind of computer someone uses.</i></p>
<p>Good for you. I personally don&#8217;t care&#8230; as long as they can actually manage the tools. For example, I don&#8217;t care that people choose to use Windows. I do care that they don&#8217;t understand the risks associated with it and thus unwittingly host zombies, worms and virus loads that then attack my systems or bogs down the net with useless and malicious traffic. </p>
<p>If a person knows the Windows OS and understand the need for immediate patching, careful browsing, high security configurations, front end firewalls (as well as OS firewalls), this won&#8217;t be a problem. If they don&#8217;t care to know that sort of thing&#8230; they should probably get a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie:
As so often found with the left: smoke and mirrors:
bit rot has nothing to do with the operating system of any comp;

fly your lie as high,....


working in the industry every day,..
Scott,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie:<br />
As so often found with the left: smoke and mirrors:<br />
bit rot has nothing to do with the operating system of any comp;</p>
<p>fly your lie as high,&#8230;.</p>
<p>working in the industry every day,..<br />
Scott,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Camel</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-195323</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Camel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One needs to understand that most &quot;code&quot; today is outsourced (read offshored) to other countries. We (US) do not write much code in use today. Most telecoms have outsourced their code writing to other countries, ala IBM/EDS/others. Microsoft is going to layoff a slew of workers in the US, but..not in their Indian operation. Bottom line, soon, I would not trust anything to be &quot;secure&quot; to the world, as it will probably come pre-written with all kinds of back doors. This includes all those glorious new phones, IPODS and neat new gadgets. And yes, I work and have worked in this field for a very long time. Maybe not much longer, as I will soon be &quot;outsourced&quot; as well. Will the last American IT guy turn off the lights please..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One needs to understand that most &#8220;code&#8221; today is outsourced (read offshored) to other countries. We (US) do not write much code in use today. Most telecoms have outsourced their code writing to other countries, ala IBM/EDS/others. Microsoft is going to layoff a slew of workers in the US, but..not in their Indian operation. Bottom line, soon, I would not trust anything to be &#8220;secure&#8221; to the world, as it will probably come pre-written with all kinds of back doors. This includes all those glorious new phones, IPODS and neat new gadgets. And yes, I work and have worked in this field for a very long time. Maybe not much longer, as I will soon be &#8220;outsourced&#8221; as well. Will the last American IT guy turn off the lights please..</p>
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		<title>By: Dan.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-195239</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh.  Someone in the thread said it well:  Macs &amp; Cults.  
An OS is an OS.  Some flavor of -IX, Wintel, Mac, whatever, if it gets the job done it gets the job done.  
No OS/Platform combo is user-friendly, some are just less user-hostile than others.  
Computer people like to keep things somewhat arcane because in such arcane-ness is job security.
MACs are not targeted as much because of the lower number of installed base.  No fun making a mess with a virus/trojan if no one notices.  
BUT, and (it&#039;s a big but), if particular Macs become High Value Targets, you can bet your bippy that hostile forces (whether some geek with too much time on his hands, or some Hostile Intelligence Service) will start attacking Macs with vigor.
As far as President Obama&#039;s blackberry, I found this article interesting:

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/obama-may-carry-top-secret-pda/

&quot;The product description reads: &#039;Developed for the National Security Agency’s Secure Mobile Environment Portable Electronic Device (SME PED) program, the Sectéra Edge is certified to protect wireless voice communications classified Top Secret and below as well as access e-mail and Web sites classified Secret and below.&#039; &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh.  Someone in the thread said it well:  Macs &amp; Cults.<br />
An OS is an OS.  Some flavor of -IX, Wintel, Mac, whatever, if it gets the job done it gets the job done.<br />
No OS/Platform combo is user-friendly, some are just less user-hostile than others.<br />
Computer people like to keep things somewhat arcane because in such arcane-ness is job security.<br />
MACs are not targeted as much because of the lower number of installed base.  No fun making a mess with a virus/trojan if no one notices.<br />
BUT, and (it&#8217;s a big but), if particular Macs become High Value Targets, you can bet your bippy that hostile forces (whether some geek with too much time on his hands, or some Hostile Intelligence Service) will start attacking Macs with vigor.<br />
As far as President Obama&#8217;s blackberry, I found this article interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/obama-may-carry-top-secret-pda/" rel="nofollow">http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/obama-may-carry-top-secret-pda/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The product description reads: &#8216;Developed for the National Security Agency’s Secure Mobile Environment Portable Electronic Device (SME PED) program, the Sectéra Edge is certified to protect wireless voice communications classified Top Secret and below as well as access e-mail and Web sites classified Secret and below.&#8217; &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/technical-hooey-from-the-white-house/#comment-195130</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look.  No matter what anyone says about Bush or Obama, PCs or Macs, Palin or...Palin, only one thing really counts to the hard-working citizens of the finest country in the world:

I LIKE TURTLES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look.  No matter what anyone says about Bush or Obama, PCs or Macs, Palin or&#8230;Palin, only one thing really counts to the hard-working citizens of the finest country in the world:</p>
<p>I LIKE TURTLES.</p>
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