Technical Hooey from the White House
There have been a couple of real plum stories in the intersection of political reporting and technology in the last week: first, the Washington Post story on the incoming Obama administration’s shock and horror at the computer environment they found at the White House (“Staff Finds White House in the Technological Dark Ages“), then closely following, rather more technical stories on how the new whitehouse.gov website was very much more “open” that the Bush administration’s version.
Sadly, in both cases, the stories demonstrate a lot more knowledge of politics and attention to the “nasty, stupid Bush administration” theme than they show technical knowledge.
Let’s look at them in order. In the first story, Washington Post writer Anne Kornbluth writes about the “technological Dark Age” at the White House. It makes for some great sound bites, like “it is kind of like going from an Xbox to an Atari.” But when we look at their actual complaints, what do we find? That the Obama staff prefers Macintosh computers, but that the White House uses Windows, and worse, they use “six-year-old versions” of Windows.
In other words, the White House staff was using — horrors! — Windows XP.
What’s more, they discovered it was hard to reach their Facebook pages and their external email accounts.
My guess is that it’s inauguration amnesia that causes reporter Kornbluth to forget the scandal around Governor Palin’s use of an external Yahoo email account for personal email, or the extended complaints about the White House using RNC email accounts for political correspondence. Or the fact that the Clinton administration several times found itself in at least technical violation of the Hatch Act for using White House facilities for political purposes. And I’m sure that a professional staff writer at the Washington Post would never consciously write a story intending to slant it against the outgoing administration, but it’s clear that she wasn’t sufficiently sophisticated to understand the reality behind the spin she was being fed.
The second, more technical story this week appears to have started out with a posting at Jason Kottke’s blog, one at TheNextWeb.com, one at Codeulate.com, and one by Cory Doctorow at BoingBoing. The Kottke post was helped along by a Twitter tweet from Tim O’Reilly, which was then re-tweeted many times.
The gist of the story is the notion that the Obama administration had made the whitehouse.gov site much more “open,” because the robots.txt file was dramatically shorter. TheNextWeb.com said it was “hopefully a sign of greater transparency”; Tim O’Reilly, who really should know better, put it as “Transparent gov FTW” (in English, “transparent government ‘for the win‘”); from the Twitter world, “saranovotny” said “amazing geek metric of the openness of the obama [sic] administration.”
For people who don’t eat and breathe websites, the robots.txt file is a suggestion to “spidering” programs, like the ones Google uses to index the web for later searching. Many people don’t realize that the way web search engines are built is based on programs that visit potentially every webpage on the Internet and copy the contents back to the search host. (This is why Google can provide cached copies of webpages that have been deleted.) The robots.txt file is defined, by convention, to tell the spidering programs which files should not be copied or indexed. So, on first glance, it makes sense that a shorter robots.txt means “more openness” — after all, that means fewer pages are being blocked.
The problem is, as Declan McCullough pointed out at CNet, there are a lot of good reasons why a competent webmaster would block pages from search engines. In fact:
If anything, Obama’s robots.txt file is too short. It doesn’t currently block search pages, meaning they’ll show up on search engines — something that most site operators don’t want and which runs afoul of Google’s webmaster guidelines. Those guidelines say: “Use robots.txt to prevent crawling of search results pages or other auto-generated pages that don’t add much value for users coming from search engines.”
In other words, the new “openness” of the White House website was actually poor search engine optimization compared to the Bush administration’s site.
Now, I’m the first person to recognize that no one can be an expert at everything, and expecting even a seasoned staff writer at the Washington Post to notice that what’s really been described to her is another example of the Windows versus Macintosh religious war might be a bit much. But, honestly, would it be too much for her to ask some questions before running with a quote like “technological Dark Ages”? Since it’s a geeky subject, sites like TheNextWeb and technical authorities like Cory Doctorow and Tim O’Reilly seem a little more guilty, but still it’s something that was published quickly. (It wouldn’t seem out of line to expect some of the websites to publish a correction.)
What it does tell us, though, is that readers who want to be well informed can’t afford to let down their guards. Clearly, the legacy media and even technical experts are perfectly capable, and more than willing, to be led astray, as long as it fits the “dumb Bush administration” narrative.






The fact that the Bush staff used XP is a demonstration that they are more interested in getting work done rather than following the latest fad. It is not surprising that the Obama team would want to use the computer designed for elitists, after all it is all about image.
This article is staggering for reasons that go beyond those you mention (even setting aside the point that checking personal e-mail and Facebook/Myspace [IM-ing?] on work time is questionable at best). These activities present security risks. Where I work all of the above activities are forbidden, not because the IT staff are micro-managers, but because they have caused security breaches. They will also probably be moaning that they can’t install Halo 3 soon. Where I work, people complain about these restrictions all the time, but they aren’t in a position to change them. Hopefully, whoever makes the decisions about these things at the White House will be sober enough to realize that these measures are in place for a reason and will leave them alone. As far as Macs go, the reason we don’t have them on the network is because enterprise security apps are rare(r) for them, AFAIK. There are a few in the building but they aren’t networked.
Has anyone else noticed that there are no longer any postings of transcripts of the presidential utterings like there have been with every other president? No official transcript of the Al Arabiya interview, for instance or of any other press statements…
Mac Users have always had a supercilious attitude towards Windows. Those who use Windows are considered luddites….peasants…a caste member of the ‘great unwashed’.
Ms. Kornbluth has captured her disdain by using “technological Dark Age”.
According to Gary aldrich in “Unlimited Access; An FBI Agent Inside The Clinton White House”, when the Clinton crowd arrived at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the first thing they did was to replace the (three-year-old) Windows PC system with…Macintoshes. Their reason? They just preferred Macs. Security issues were blandly brushed aside, on the grounds that “Macs are better”.
In fact, there were significant security problems, which both the FBI and Secret Service tried to get the Clinton staff to take action on. To no avail.
When the G.W.Bush team arrived, they asked the FBI and the service “what is the easiest OS to keep secure?” Out went the Macs, in came Windows. Again.
But that just doesn’t work for the Obama team, anymore than it did for the Clinton team. (Which, come to think of it, had a lot of the same people on the roster.)
Apparently, one sign that someone is a true part of the hip, trendy, postmodern, multicultural elite is to insist on an expensive, boutique computer OS in addition to microbrews, arugula, etc.
As for “security”, who cares? They know everybody loves America… now that the “right people” are in charge.
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Look, I’m no fan of Obama or his administration or his team of flaks, but don’t go dissin’ Macs!
If you want a computer to work with as opposed to on, get a Mac.
If you want a computer that is virus-free, get a Mac.
If you want a computer that just works, get a Mac.
If you want a computer that’s fun to use, get a Mac.
If you want a computer that you can “support” yourself, get a Mac.
If you want a computer that you don’t have to replace every year or two, get a Mac.
As for the Bushies using XP, it’s because XP is the most reliable, sturdiest version of Windows the beast of Redmond ever released. This was a good choice.
Go ahead, PC mavens, bash me. But I won’t be responding.
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This Bill, sponsored by none other than our “President elect” Sen.
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The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection from the U.S. Constitution.
A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command. A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons…which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
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Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen.
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Aren’t these the same people who got all upset because Sarah Palin uses Yahoo? And now they want to use facebook and who knows what other external email programs. And will they be storing sensitive government documents on Google and (what’s that mac storage?) iDisk on the net?
“Hey! Why can’t I load this spiffy new program I downloaded from ‘download.com’ onto the network? Security? But I *want* it! And I trust the guy.”
There are very good reasons the business world hasn’t fully jumped on the Vista or Mac bandwagon.
I give it three months before the white house network is seriously compromised. These people are amateurs and, unfortunately like their leader, all show and no blow.
XP is a much more stable system than Vista. Also more secure. Me and my tech bros are still using XP due to Vista’s many flaws. It usually takes 3 years for Microsoft to work the bugs out of the latest offering, so most people who know anything about windows hang on to the latest de-bugged version.
I welcome any input on any apps that Vista handles better or with more security than XP.
Also, Vista’s huge ram requirements might require equipment upgrades to install. The giant ram draw can make Vista run slower than the snappy XP.
As a webmaster, the reasons for the extreme robots.txt will make itself apparent as huge bandwidth increases will follow which can create more site downtime.
Facebook from the Whitehouse?!? Foreign intelligence agencies are probably gleeful at this change. There’s a very good reason why technology should be tightly controlled in an environment like the Whitehouse. Obambi and company are on track to find out the hard way.
As for the XP vs Mac argument, an executive office would do well to use what the rest of the organization is using. The Federal government is 99.99% Windows.
Look for foreign governments to know what’s happening before we do.
Guys: stop the blue-on-blue. I know plenty of Mac users (myself included) who are emphatically NOT “New Class” liberals and despise 0bama and everything his followers stand for. (I’m not even sure he stands for anything other than naked ambition.)
Here are some real arugula-eating, latte sipping, flaming liberals by your “Mac” criterion:
* Rush Limbaugh (Mac fanatic)
* Charles Johnson of littlegreenfootballs.com
Bush 43 himself had a “Lamp” iMac G4 and a Macbook Pro.
As for using Windows XP instead of Vista, well, all the PC fanatics I know avoid HastaLaVista like the plague or have downgraded to XP. I guess the Bush administration, as long as they chose Wintel platforms (which I wouldn’t have), simply were not masochistic enough to “up”grade to Vista.
I’m willing to place a substantial bet that the ‘Mac’s don’t get viruses’ meme is going out the window(s hehe pun). I’m certain a lot of hackers are changing their OS of study.
Our cyberguys might be able to keep the White House safe enough, but its going to be open season against Macheads everywhere. I suggest investing in some antivirus software and get a mouse with at least 2 buttons.
…Let the games begin…
Well, maybe someone will hack into those Macs and Dear Leader’s Blackberry just to show how non-secure they really are.
Bambi and his crew can’t help it: every time they move or speak, they show us who they are.
Can’t wait till they give the Muslims at Gitmo blackberries so they can fellowship with their brothers.
Democratic staffer are more prone to elitism because, you know, they went to “better” schools, and think any who came before them were idiots. But (to eon) relying on the FBI for a technological evaluation of security isn’t wise. Their *own* systems are a mess. To ask “what is the easiest OS to keep secure” in 2000, prior to OS X shouldn’t preclude asking the same question in 2009. Check the NSA Guidelines for configuring secure computers. The edition for today’s Mac is notably shorter than that for Windows.
I was working in IT for a major branch of Treasury a few years ago when the “Sasser” worm hit. We were essentially out of business for days until our systems could be sanitized. Our Macs and UNIX systems continued working though.
Read what the qualifications of a basic office worker for any U.S. government position are and you’ll see what dunces these people are. They don’t pass the minimum standards; And they are supposed to be making “We The Peoples” government function for the next four years? yuk, yuk, yuk.
This is what happens when the kids are given the keys to the candy store. When access to one’s Facebook account is the barometer of technology for the White House we know what sort of mindset the White House staff has. This is what we get when ACORN and the rest were allowed to bus uninformed college kids to the polling places. Wonder how long it will be until MTV’s Spring Break at the White House takes place?
Hey, don’t paint all MAC user as elitist. My owning a MAC doesn’t make me a better, more erudite person. The only thing better with my MAC laptop, than my Windows run desktop computer, the MAC freezes up less. But if I was in a position of needing a secure network, I would listen to the ones who know better. Guess that’s what makes me different than the Dems, I don’t think I know better than the experts.
I wonder if it matters that AL Gore is an Apple board member to the Obammunists?
If you were really technologically hip, wouldn’t you use Linux? Like I do?
I see nothing wrong with XP, about 80% of PC users are still running XP daily. And MS still supports it.
Ignorance is bliss, for Obama voters.
“As for “security”, who cares? They know everybody loves America… now that the “right people” are in charge.”
This is precisely what these naïve fools believe on a gut level—and perhaps even consciously. They do indeed perceive themselves as “nice people.” The United States has allegedly victimized the disposed of the world. A few kind words and actions by the new Obama administration should make them like us once again.
Liberal enlightnment & technology:
1) the use of XP makes sense, it is a robust an proven platform – Vista is definitely a crappy system. Even Microsoft admitted this – the fact that Microsoft will come with a replacement for it says a lot.
2) my, Macs are so hip! And the Mac users are so cool and inteligent, and enlightened!
3) now some common sense: what kind of info technology you really need in the White House? Should it be something of the Carnivore’s level? Of what? My bet is that is that the normal office equipment/support should do it.
4) The liberals’ silly view on tech and politics came up during the election, too: remember the libs yelling that McCain can’t use a computer? Yeah, maybe, but the US president simply HAS NO TIME TO USE A COMPUTER during office hours: the president works in strict blocks of time/issues of 10 minutes, where he is supposed to chose between very important, proposed policy alternative – you got to be a stupid liberal to think that the US president has the time to surf the web, then do his e-mail, then sit and yawn with Robert Gates, then spend some time on Facebook, then check prices on E-bay, then listen to Larry Summers, then go through some “Chicks with Dicks”, then e-mail, then talk about the new cell with whoever happens to be around, then.. oh, boy, lunch time already!
Is there a limit to liberals’ stupidity?
TomF: Excellent point. Also, I wonder why the article didn’t ask why the Obama staffers thought that 6 year old computers were obsolete. Really, what applications will the vast majority of them be using? Word processor, spreadsheet, e-mail, presentation, internet browser. What else? They aren’t designing jet engines or editing movies. The Bush White House staff had computers that got the job done.
“XP is a much more stable system than Vista.”
I don’t know about that: I used to have to reinstall XP at least once every six months, but I’ve been using the factory installation of Vista that came with my PC for more than a year with minimal problems. Vista has it’s problems, but it’s nowhere near as bad as it’s reputed to be.
I must have gotten a bizzaro version of Vista. It works, it’s never crashed, my computer runs it just fine, it looks good, ect, ect, ect. I also run Linux on my laptop, so no I’m not in the tank for Microsoft. I think people are just silly about this whole OS thing. What a stupid geeky thing to argue about. The article itself was on time and point out what we already knew, liberals never grow up.
I expect lots of change, but little to no improvement, in data security under the direction of a President who didn’t know enough to hire someone to secure his own campaign website before it leaked massive information.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30259
#25 Don:
Is your real name “Chuck Norris”? Everyone knows that Windows Vista runs fine for Chuck Norris.
There is a simple reason why Macs have been virus free. It has nothing to do with the intrinsic security of their operating system. It has to do with market penetration. Virus writers want their disease to propagate. If there are insufficient hosts it won’t so why waste your time. As Macs have proliferated security flaws have been exposed and viruses have been written.
No operating system is secure. They can all be penetrated. LINUX is probably the most insecure because every Intelligence service with a cyber capability has an opportunity to put undetectable backdoors into it.
I seriously doubt that Bush’s personal opinion played any roll whatsoever in White House’s selection of OS.
I would imagine that they have a dedicated IT staff, far superior to your neighborhood geek, who evaluates and recommends the OS as well as all other technical aspects of computer and computing.
It’s ridiculous to hold Bush personally responsible for everything from the ply of the toilet paper to information technology.
Okay, now, calm down. First of all, I’m a confirmed Mac convert, having done Windows, Linux, HP-UX, AIX, and other operating systems too numerous to name, some of them probably older than some of our writers at PJM.I”m also a computer security guy, and I’ve got to say the notion that Windows is more secure than Macs is just mistaken, although the last time I talked about Windows’ architectural weaknesses, I got called a “leftist”.
WM et al., you’re absolutely right about Facebook, twitter, etc; I can easily imagine someone naively tweeting, oh, “really big meeting going on, lots of people from Justice, can’t talk about it”. And yes, as I mentioned in the article, Sarah Palin did get a lot of flack for having a personal Yahoo email account. Now the Obama White House staff is setting up open gmail accounts one has to wonder about FOIA requests against those accounts. I’d bet money that there is a quiet announcement, or maybe no announcement, of those accounts being shut down.
The real risk, I think, is that a real Black Hat, a foreign intelligence service or the like, has the dedication and expertise to use traffic analysis on things like Facebook and twitter.
I think it comes down to the “idealism” versus pragmatism”. If an older PC uses XP for simple things and it works, the conservative evaluates the user, the task and the cost of replacement and makes a decision. This is pragmatism in action. An idealist comes in, sees older equipment that still works and wants to change things. Not because it is needed or necessary, but because they don’t want to adapt to the world, they want the world to adapt to them. They want “new” for newness sake; different but not better. I fear this will be their policies: “Change because we can, not because it’s needed.”
(Also a Mac/Linux/XP user)
This is NOT about the tiresome ‘Mac vs PC’.
This is about the msm running articles uncritically from directly fed talking points, by authors with a 2-bit knowledge of what they were writing about.
And the author showed that:
With today’s technology and search engines, just one initial mis-information circulating amongst the right circle(s), it could become a well-known fact. Everybody quoting it, linking it, “twittering”, that described what’s been happening since the last presidential campaign heated up.
What the? No one raises a fuss about Prez Obama keeping his Blackberry for personal emails?
I am a conservative Republican I have a Mac. Mainly for ease of use and far less headache from my experience using restrictive Windows OS systems with bad security vulnerabilities and accessibility-based loopholes. I equate a Windows OS system to a giggling, passive prostitute who cannot keep her legs closed all the times.
WM et al., you’re absolutely right about Facebook, twitter, etc; I can easily imagine someone naively tweeting, oh, “really big meeting going on, lots of people from Justice, can’t talk about it”. And yes, as I mentioned in the article, Sarah Palin did get a lot of flack for having a personal Yahoo email account. Now the Obama White House staff is setting up open gmail accounts one has to wonder about FOIA requests against those accounts. I’d bet money that there is a quiet announcement, or maybe no announcement, of those accounts being shut down.
I was remembering the flak Palin caught about her private email account when I heard that Obama was getting his custom Blackberry. Will the email on that Blackberry be in compliance with the Hatch Act? Somehow, I doubt it. After all, he’s special.
Rob, that was my article back in November. Also see the comments in the “Security and SOX” article.
Oh, and “always right”, #32, you get a gold star.
I find it strange that Dems are complaining about the computers they inherited. Didn’t I read something about Bush people getting keyboards with no “W”s?
Count me in among the crowd of people that uses Vista and it works. Works well. If you are having a problem, more than likely your hardware is a few years old. With enough RAM and a recent CPU, Vista runs very well.
As for the Mac vs. PC. I use both and while I like certain things about the Mac (I have no problem with it) I prefer the PC. Both are good and get the job done. As for virii on the PC, keep the OS patched, and use an antivirus program.
Just for the record, Rush Limbaugh is an avowed Mac fan.
“it is kind of like going from an Xbox to an Atari.”
IIRC, Atari had a line that could actually do work. Xbox is apurely gaming system, isn’t it?
So Obama’s staffers are complaining that they’re expected to do more than play games on my dime. I am unsympathetic.
If they rip out all the PCs and install Macs, we’ll have to pay for them. And we’ll pay to replace them with PCs again in 2012, because the business world (and all of government) uses PCs. Always has.
This is yet another example of Obama’s trend-chasing. Maybe he can use his own money to buy Macs?
Ha, Ha! “I’m sure a WaPo writer would not intentionally slant a story…” Truly droll!
I recall the Washington Post article. I wasn’t surprised that the Washington Post didn’t know better, but was stunned that the Obama people seemed that clueless about how to run a secure office environment.
What do Apple and 0bama have in common? They’re both cults. There’s nothing the least bit surprising about any of this. Their Apple fetish represents the form-over-substance approach that so typifies the subculture of Teh One.
I think Obots run under OSX.
That’s because his ‘bots spend all their time here.
This is a far bigger issue than just information technology. The “dumb Bush administration” narrative permeates all issues where policy and science/technology intersect, whether climate change, or stem cells, or even economics. One of the most effective ways to fool fools is to pose as the smarter, and the donkeys have perfected the art of fooling fools.
What’s happened to to this Great country I grew up in. We now send our kids to college to compet for $11-$14 hr. jobs if they can even find one
Why am I not surprised that the Obama staff want Mac’s. Double the price to accomplish the same thing or less – but hey, they will look cool.
Karl Rove uses a Mac too.
I use a PC that I dual boot Vista and Linux. No problems with either one. Love Macs, but frankly, they are overpriced for my budget.
But I agree the focus of this post is on the ridiculous reporting. I work for a school district and for an information security firm. If I told my bosses at either place I thought we should allow access to Facebook and Messenger,or allow any old search engine to access our pages, I’d either be laughed at or fired on the spot as an incompetent.
I’ve been on Vista for over a year now. Never had to reinstall it. XP? UGH. NIGHTMARE.
Do I like Vista? NO. I HATE it. -There’s the conundrum.
XP gives me more power and control and me being a bit of a “girl geek” I have come to really like being able to tweak my system BUT XP seems to just break down no matter how clean and virus free I keep it and reinstalls are painfully inevitable. XP just twats out big time.
So, I have XP on an older, Main MamaJama desk-top computer and I have Vista on my main MamaJama lap-top.
Vista is tarded in the sense that it “mother hens” you to the point of frustration if you already know your way around a PC and Ms-Dos old code. I’m sure there is comfort with n00bs with that platform but for me it was nightmarish to learn my way around Windows “new joke of a system” crappola.
In fact, may I stretch an analogy a bit to say that “Vista” is exactly the example of “socialism” where “Big brother” coddles you into comfort and joy?
Okay…yeah. That was stretching it
Anyhoo.
For those of you geeks who like tweaks:
http://vista.blorge.com/2007/04/03/10-annoying-things-about-vista-and-working-around-them/
You’re welcome,
Delia
This is the same old meme: Pubs dumb; Dems smart!
Wait until the new open government system gets seriously… I mean, SERIOUSLY… hacked. Guv gets shut down. We get attacked again. End of Obama. Say hello to Prez Biden. Maybe Prez Pelosi. Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue; parts I, II, and III.
God, now I won’t be able to sleep tonight. Mo-o-o-ommy! Where’s my blankie? Oh, there. (suck, suck)
Delia, the way I became a Mac convert was by trying to cope with my mother’s computer. I sort of accepted that my Windows machines got weird after a while, as I’m constantly installing things, hacking things, and Windows just doesn’t do a good job of protecting the OS from userland. But my mother’s computer was a straight stock Windows XP, running nothing but AOL for email and the necessary antivirus addons. Oh, and she played a lot of solitaire.
None the less, about every three months, I had to come do some kind of fairly radical maintenance on it because the bit rot had floored it.
I bought her an eMac, installed AOL, and the next time I had to mess with it was when the CDROM drive died five years later.
Having been in information security for … nearly 15 years, I have to say I’d much prefer our government use Macs or some flavor of *nix for their computers. Word Processing, Spreadsheets and other office tools are equal across platforms at this point. Web browsing is web browsing and email is email, there’s noting that really requires taking on the risk associated with Windows. I wouldn’t call XP the Dark Ages, by any means… but I would argue that Obama’s Blackberry and staffer’s Macs will be far less likely to be compromised than Windows based smart phones or any Microsoft OS. I’ve studied the architecture of *nix, Macs, every MS OS since Windows 95 and Smart Phones in some detail, including years of pen testing etc.
From a security perspective, Blackberry devices and Macs are not gonna be more risky that Windows… in fact, the opposite is true. Even barring the silly arguments about “Well, Windows is just more popular”… the basic architecutre of the OS is built in such a way to provide far more security by design… that is, even when vulnerabilities are found, they are less likely to be critical threats, because the OS is simply better designed.
Charlie’s got a great article here… this stuff is all political nonsense rather than any sort of openness… not really any more risky from a security standpoint, but not really any more open or advanced either.
As for Facebook, IM etc. all of those can be managed in a secure fashion. There are some fantastic enterprise tools that can manage and monitor in real time looking for stuff that might be nasty coming from IM and Web. The only real advantage there is to blocking sites and services in a corporate environment is to provide a bit of legal cover if some fool is surfing porn (or writing nasty IM’s to people). There’s some evidence that it cuts down on non-productivity, but that’s not really all that impressive(employees always find ways to do something else). However, one shouldn’t hear “Facebook, MySpace, IM” or anything like that and assume that it is necessarily some big security hole. Competent InfoSec and network engineers can securely provide access to pretty much anything these days.
When it comes to the digital future… Don’t be nervous, don’t be scared… just, Be Prepared.
#52 “Maybe Prez Pelosi. ”
STOP!!, you are really scaring me!!!!
Ratatosk, thanks for the kind comments; since I’m about to disagree with you one one point, I wanted to say that first.
That one point is Facebook and Twitter. I really do worry about the traffic analysis possibilities, and no filtering software is going to prevent that attack. the only option would be to generate random spurious status updates or tweet, and that sort of defeats the whole model.
When I was an IT manager in the 1980s we had to buy in Macs for the people who were not smart enough to use DOS. A Mac to a PC was like a picture book compared to a John Updike novel.
(To be fair the Xerox 6085 documenter on which both Mac and eventually Winows were based beath both on technology. Xerox’s decision not to develop it must be the worst business decision ever.)
That one point is Facebook and Twitter. I really do worry about the traffic analysis possibilities, and no filtering software is going to prevent that attack. the only option would be to generate random spurious status updates or tweet, and that sort of defeats the whole model.
Oh I don’t disagree that might be intelligence concerns. However, that’s outside the architecture, and technical security I intended my comments to cover. I think a well educated group of users with smart policies and education can minimize the threat, but certianly any time information can be shared, there is risk of traffic analysis.
In general though, I applaud the US government stepping into the modern age, at any level. I’m sure there will be a learning curve, maybe even some failures as we move forward… but the White House used to be worried about those telephones… after all someone could do analysis on those too
There are some genuine concerns about how communication technology is being used… but in this case, I think any concerns about the technology being used appear unfounded.
How’s that Charlie?
Charlie:
The operating system does not encourage or discourage bit rot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rot
Nevertheless, one of the main points of this article was the fact that XP was still in place. The news release made it seem as though Bush and staff were using Windows 95 and rotary phones.
My Experience has always shown me that MAC users simply don’t like Windows because their not familiar with the operating system. Both have the versatility that are needed in the business world today.
That said why the HECK ARE WHITEHOUSE STAFFERS trying to access facebook from the white house??????? Maybe it’s because most of these staffers are the same people that worked in the Clinton Whitehouse when Nuclear secrets were given to North Korea so now they have the ability to enrich weapons grade plutonium. Just remember how many people in the Clinton administration were involved in scandals and that should cover all you questions.
This is just more of the “spend money like drunken Congressmen” philosophy that they brought with them, and are ardently trying to practice.
Col. Smeag,
Your experience differs from mine then. I’ve found that most Mac users in our business and among my friends are familiar with Windows and may still run it at work or on a secondary system. Some Windows users however, have regularly shown an infophobic attitude toward anything that didn’t have a Start Button.
Any of the three OS’s are usable in a business environment. Mac and Linux can do everything that Windows can do, except they can do it on a system with a superior architecture.
Also, I’d wager that ‘Facebook’ tells us far more about the personal habits of staffers, rather than their relation to Clinton Nuke secrets.
Cybergeezer,
Every administration gets new office equipment. The most likely reason that those were XP machines… is because that was the hottest new technology 8 years ago. Remember, XP came out in 2001.
Asking any administration to run on 4-8 year old machines is simply not all that reasonable. Most intelligent corporations have a desktop refresh and server refresh every 4 year MAX. This means less technical support for older hardware/software, no issues with lapsed warranties etc. it SAVES money in the ROI.
Gods, can you people not comment on anything without partisan blinders?
Hmmm. The WH robots.txt has trebled in size overnight. So far, haven’t heard anyone on the left decrying this massive loss of openness.
Uh, Scott, read the second definition of “bit rot”:”to facetiously describe the spontaneous degradation of a software program over time.”
COL, I’m less familiar with Windows now because I fled it screaming. I none the less manage to explain details of the threading model to n00bs. There are certainly people who use the computer as a tool who only know Macs, but then there are similar people who only know Windows.
Cybergeezer, this kind of changeover is a perfectly reasonable time to change over, and it is a new administration; it’s not unreasonable for them to move to their preferred systems. After a $150 million Inauguration, the computers are in the noise.
What is dumb is to claim it’s because they’re so smart, or for a “careful objective” reporter to fall for that claim without asking.
Wouldn’t putting the daily press briefings back on the WH web site work regardless of whether PCs or MACs are being used (inside and out)?
Where’s the ‘openness’ in refusing to put the Daily WH Press briefings on the site? Even Bush’s dark age techies could do that with XP.
63. Ratatosk:
64. Charlie (Colorado):
You are correct, in my experience.
I have fallen into that time cycle on my own; I own both, but prefer Mac.
I have also worked for the government with their computer systems, and know the inherent problems. I might build my own system next time; Easier to upgrade.
I just like to piss off the liberals in my posts.
Transperancy? From a campaign that NEVER allowed an unscripted question or interview, turned into an administration that is exactly the same.
Why would anyone pretend to be surprised at the information walls being build around President Zero?
You would have to be plain ignorant to think anything would change.
P-o-w-e-r, guys. It’s all about who has The Power.
Ratatosk:
Gods, can you people not comment on anything without partisan blinders?
First: I guess there’s nothing wrong being partisan if your a Liberal like you, I guess the first amendment only applies to Liberals.
Second the fact that no one is concerned about a lack of concern for White House Security. You could leave a IPhone in a building with a wireless server and hack into it. I give full credit for The Secret Service and FBI but hackers look for back doors. People tend to use the same passwords for everything. If a hacker cracked a face-book pass word that’s one step closer to breaking in to the White House.
Third: I could care less what kind of computer someone uses.
COL, not everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal, and not every question is defined by a simple political division. I’ve known Ratatosk a good while, and he’s no liberal, at least in the narrow sense our “progressive” brethren would mean.
6. chris in Toronto:
You’ve got everything right!
Bottom line: Macs are superior regardless of partisan lines.
Look. No matter what anyone says about Bush or Obama, PCs or Macs, Palin or…Palin, only one thing really counts to the hard-working citizens of the finest country in the world:
I LIKE TURTLES.
Sheesh. Someone in the thread said it well: Macs & Cults.
An OS is an OS. Some flavor of -IX, Wintel, Mac, whatever, if it gets the job done it gets the job done.
No OS/Platform combo is user-friendly, some are just less user-hostile than others.
Computer people like to keep things somewhat arcane because in such arcane-ness is job security.
MACs are not targeted as much because of the lower number of installed base. No fun making a mess with a virus/trojan if no one notices.
BUT, and (it’s a big but), if particular Macs become High Value Targets, you can bet your bippy that hostile forces (whether some geek with too much time on his hands, or some Hostile Intelligence Service) will start attacking Macs with vigor.
As far as President Obama’s blackberry, I found this article interesting:
http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/obama-may-carry-top-secret-pda/
“The product description reads: ‘Developed for the National Security Agency’s Secure Mobile Environment Portable Electronic Device (SME PED) program, the Sectéra Edge is certified to protect wireless voice communications classified Top Secret and below as well as access e-mail and Web sites classified Secret and below.’ “
One needs to understand that most “code” today is outsourced (read offshored) to other countries. We (US) do not write much code in use today. Most telecoms have outsourced their code writing to other countries, ala IBM/EDS/others. Microsoft is going to layoff a slew of workers in the US, but..not in their Indian operation. Bottom line, soon, I would not trust anything to be “secure” to the world, as it will probably come pre-written with all kinds of back doors. This includes all those glorious new phones, IPODS and neat new gadgets. And yes, I work and have worked in this field for a very long time. Maybe not much longer, as I will soon be “outsourced” as well. Will the last American IT guy turn off the lights please..
Charlie:
As so often found with the left: smoke and mirrors:
bit rot has nothing to do with the operating system of any comp;
fly your lie as high,….
working in the industry every day,..
Scott,…
Col. Smeg,
First: I guess there’s nothing wrong being partisan if your a Liberal like you, I guess the first amendment only applies to Liberals.
That’s right. Only we Pinko-Liberal-Goose-Stepping-Fascists get freedom of speech. It was entirely because I didn’t want someone to freely speak that I posted. With guys like you around, I’m sure the GOP will be on top again in no time.
Second the fact that no one is concerned about a lack of concern for White House Security. You could leave a IPhone in a building with a wireless server and hack into it. I give full credit for The Secret Service and FBI but hackers look for back doors. People tend to use the same passwords for everything. If a hacker cracked a face-book pass word that’s one step closer to breaking in to the White House.
What?
I mean really… WHAT?!
Do you actually work with Information Security? Are you aware of what tools are available today to combat issues like rogue wireless networks? Did you know that there are automated Intrusion Detection/Prevention Systems that can detect rogue networks and throw an RF blanket on them? As for passwords, in any secure system these days a password is a small piece of a complex solution based on layers of security. Two-Factor authentication, device authentication etc. should, in a secure network environment, render a recovered password as a low risk.
The only ‘risk’ associated with the info Charlie’s discussing is indirect. Data massaging, Traffic analysis, social engineering… those are all real risks and can only be mitigated via educating the users on what they should and should not share, or how they interact with network services and tools.
Third: I could care less what kind of computer someone uses.
Good for you. I personally don’t care… as long as they can actually manage the tools. For example, I don’t care that people choose to use Windows. I do care that they don’t understand the risks associated with it and thus unwittingly host zombies, worms and virus loads that then attack my systems or bogs down the net with useless and malicious traffic.
If a person knows the Windows OS and understand the need for immediate patching, careful browsing, high security configurations, front end firewalls (as well as OS firewalls), this won’t be a problem. If they don’t care to know that sort of thing… they should probably get a Mac.
Quote:
75. Joe Camel:
One needs to understand that most “code” today is outsourced (read offshored) to other countries. We (US) do not write much code in use today.
Does that apply to the OS internal to Cisco boxes and the like? Or the OS that runs on the Blackberry that O’ma uses? Or the apps?
Paper and pen, stuffed in an impervious envelope, hand carried is apparently the only way communications can be truly secure. Or similar…
tom
p.s Mac vs PC … whatever does the job at hand, though I thought the recent Mac adverts a whole lot too smug.
ya know what, as a taxpayer, I say install a bare bones Linux implementation and tell ‘em to get back to work.
ya know what, as a taxpayer, I say install a bare bones Linux implementation and tell ‘em to get back to work.
HAHAHAHA!
100% truth!
Egad! I cannot believe that Vivo & I agree on anything!
: )
Golly, I’ve been called a Leftist again, and I didn’t even notice.