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		<title>By: Dr. Zoo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/tea-partiers-come-to-the-aid-of-california-farmers/#comment-447778</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Zoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Tea Party Express is a cross-country fundraising exercise for a Republican-aligned PAC.&quot;

Not so.

The Tea Party Express, I and II, is a grassroots organization that traveled across the country twice in the last three months to
join with Tea Parties across the nation to bring awareness to the governments taxing policies as well as other anti Constitutional actions such as the so-called &quot;Health Care Reform&quot; bills which are not reform in any manner.

The Tea Party Express is involved with many issues brought to the attention of the citizens at Tea Parties across the country.

The first TPX tour attended about 40 teaparties across the country which were attended by 30-40,000 citizens to express their desire to keep our country a Constitutional Republic.  

It culminated in the 9-12  rally which was attended by about 1.5 million people.

The second TPX Tour (TPXII) had 40 teaparties with about 50,000 grass roots Americans in attendance.

The Tea Party Express wishes success to these ventures described on this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Tea Party Express is a cross-country fundraising exercise for a Republican-aligned PAC.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not so.</p>
<p>The Tea Party Express, I and II, is a grassroots organization that traveled across the country twice in the last three months to<br />
join with Tea Parties across the nation to bring awareness to the governments taxing policies as well as other anti Constitutional actions such as the so-called &#8220;Health Care Reform&#8221; bills which are not reform in any manner.</p>
<p>The Tea Party Express is involved with many issues brought to the attention of the citizens at Tea Parties across the country.</p>
<p>The first TPX tour attended about 40 teaparties across the country which were attended by 30-40,000 citizens to express their desire to keep our country a Constitutional Republic.  </p>
<p>It culminated in the 9-12  rally which was attended by about 1.5 million people.</p>
<p>The second TPX Tour (TPXII) had 40 teaparties with about 50,000 grass roots Americans in attendance.</p>
<p>The Tea Party Express wishes success to these ventures described on this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Yates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water is becoming scarce and I&#039;d love to see the industry move to hydroponics, which get you more yield with less land and less water, but requires greater capital investment of course.

That said, the California water crisis is big government at its worst.  The state &quot;manages&quot; the water supply not via a free market or even a political process, but simply by just shutting it off because a tiny fish is more important than the economic lifeblood and contributions of farmers.  Maybe we could find a tiny fish on capitol hill and shut off their water too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water is becoming scarce and I&#8217;d love to see the industry move to hydroponics, which get you more yield with less land and less water, but requires greater capital investment of course.</p>
<p>That said, the California water crisis is big government at its worst.  The state &#8220;manages&#8221; the water supply not via a free market or even a political process, but simply by just shutting it off because a tiny fish is more important than the economic lifeblood and contributions of farmers.  Maybe we could find a tiny fish on capitol hill and shut off their water too.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Bonney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla Bonney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Dodge, thanks for running the article.  However, Tea parties are not by and large a &quot;Republican&quot; pac group.  Believe me, they are not.  That is the major tenant of any tea party leader.  They are beholden to no one.  Maybe they would like to be adopted by the Republicans, but it is not happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dodge, thanks for running the article.  However, Tea parties are not by and large a &#8220;Republican&#8221; pac group.  Believe me, they are not.  That is the major tenant of any tea party leader.  They are beholden to no one.  Maybe they would like to be adopted by the Republicans, but it is not happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul -Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul -Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you still proud that you voted for Obama? ROFLMAO</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Central Valley was once one of the most productive farm area&#039;s in the world, it was one of the largest tax producers in California but no more.  The Progressive/Marxist/Communist politicians have seemingly on purpose decided to ruin the state of California, nothing else makes sense.  No country in the world would ruin something so valuable but the Democrats have with glee.  California was once the 7th largest economy in the World but because of the Democrat Socialist Communist it is no more, over taxed, over regulated, to many in Sacramento working for other than the people.  Communism is here and its in the old Democrat Party ruining the State and Country.  Some cities in the Central Valley have a 45% unemployment rate, you have people  living under overpasses and in cars, welcome to Obamaville.  In the last vote in Congress all Democrats voted not to turn the water on, these people have no heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Central Valley was once one of the most productive farm area&#8217;s in the world, it was one of the largest tax producers in California but no more.  The Progressive/Marxist/Communist politicians have seemingly on purpose decided to ruin the state of California, nothing else makes sense.  No country in the world would ruin something so valuable but the Democrats have with glee.  California was once the 7th largest economy in the World but because of the Democrat Socialist Communist it is no more, over taxed, over regulated, to many in Sacramento working for other than the people.  Communism is here and its in the old Democrat Party ruining the State and Country.  Some cities in the Central Valley have a 45% unemployment rate, you have people  living under overpasses and in cars, welcome to Obamaville.  In the last vote in Congress all Democrats voted not to turn the water on, these people have no heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 22), 23)
There actually are some really good resources out there for facts and history regarding the Central Valley Project and California water law.  Even wikipedia is a pretty reliable resource if all you want to know is the very bare bones history of how the water project was constructed and why the water shut off is a Federal matter. 

Simply put farmers in the Central Valley don&#039;t actually want the Federal Government involved in this at all.  However, at the time the project was conceived and constructed in the early 30&#039;s the State of California simply didn&#039;t have the funds to complete the project.  (Guess some things never change :)) Therefore, to supplement the bonds that were paid for in part by California&#039;s taxpayers but in larger part by the water users (farmers and municipal water districts) the state petitioned the federal government for monetary support and (unfortunately) they got it.  The project was paid for with bond money though, so it was not a subsidy program.  In fact the water that growers receive now they still pay for. It&#039;s also important to note the Central Valley Project was constructed for several reasons; to prevent overdraft of underground aquifers by farmers and municipal users and also to prevent the flooding of many large cities, principally Sacramento, in high snow and rainfall years.  The fact that the project is operated by the Bureau of Reclamation is what apparently gives Congress and the Federal Government the ability to turn off water deliveries, under the Endangered Species Act.  But even this is being contested in Federal court right now by the Pacific Legal Foundation.   
 
I&#039;m a 25 year old fourth generation farmer in California&#039;s Central Valley.(I also have a BS and an MBA, so I don&#039;t know if I still qualify as a &quot;bucktoothed&quot; hick farmer, but I like to act the part)  What is happening here is criminally unconstitutional.   
The heart of the matter is a question of property rights and the right of the Federal and State government to confiscate land or water for uses that they deem fit while still forcing land owners to pay their property taxes, regardless of how worthless their land now is, and for what little water they receive.  For example; in the past year growers in the Westland&#039;s Water District which serves the area currently in question, have received 10% of their contracted water allotment while still paying 100% of their fees and taxes.  Now, I don&#039;t know how anyone else would feel about this but if I walked into a 7-11 bought a 32 oz slurpee then received only 3.2 oz while the cashier proceeded to pour the rest down the drain I&#039;d be pretty pissed off.  That&#039;s what is happening to farmers it&#039;s just on a way more grotesque scale, because the trickle down effect for California will be completely irreversible, entire towns will dry up so to speak.    

The Central Valley is one of only 3 areas in the world, one of which is Iraq, that are bio-diverse enough with the right climate to support the varied vegetable, fruit, nut, grain, dairy, and meat production that Central California supports.  California ag now produces over 400 different commodities and in 2007 recorded $36.6 billion in direct farm sales, that figure does not include value added product or supporting and secondarily related industries. We have a tremendous gift here, it would be wholly immoral to allow it to simply dry up over foolish and petty politics.  

If anyone is still awake after reading this there are a lot of real good resources for information:

US Bureau of Reclamation, www.usbr.gov/mp/cvp/index.html

State of California, www.water.ca.gov

California Department of Food and Agriculture, www.cdfa.ca.gov

www.familiesprotectingthevalley.com/ ; Nonprofit group based in Fresno that is a real clearinghouse for water information

http://www.nunes.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;Issue_id=350eb49e-b0d0-fc95-f8bb-37ee86400e38 ; Website of Congressman Devin Nunes discussing water issues at the Congressional level</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 22), 23)<br />
There actually are some really good resources out there for facts and history regarding the Central Valley Project and California water law.  Even wikipedia is a pretty reliable resource if all you want to know is the very bare bones history of how the water project was constructed and why the water shut off is a Federal matter. </p>
<p>Simply put farmers in the Central Valley don&#8217;t actually want the Federal Government involved in this at all.  However, at the time the project was conceived and constructed in the early 30&#8242;s the State of California simply didn&#8217;t have the funds to complete the project.  (Guess some things never change <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) Therefore, to supplement the bonds that were paid for in part by California&#8217;s taxpayers but in larger part by the water users (farmers and municipal water districts) the state petitioned the federal government for monetary support and (unfortunately) they got it.  The project was paid for with bond money though, so it was not a subsidy program.  In fact the water that growers receive now they still pay for. It&#8217;s also important to note the Central Valley Project was constructed for several reasons; to prevent overdraft of underground aquifers by farmers and municipal users and also to prevent the flooding of many large cities, principally Sacramento, in high snow and rainfall years.  The fact that the project is operated by the Bureau of Reclamation is what apparently gives Congress and the Federal Government the ability to turn off water deliveries, under the Endangered Species Act.  But even this is being contested in Federal court right now by the Pacific Legal Foundation.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 25 year old fourth generation farmer in California&#8217;s Central Valley.(I also have a BS and an MBA, so I don&#8217;t know if I still qualify as a &#8220;bucktoothed&#8221; hick farmer, but I like to act the part)  What is happening here is criminally unconstitutional.<br />
The heart of the matter is a question of property rights and the right of the Federal and State government to confiscate land or water for uses that they deem fit while still forcing land owners to pay their property taxes, regardless of how worthless their land now is, and for what little water they receive.  For example; in the past year growers in the Westland&#8217;s Water District which serves the area currently in question, have received 10% of their contracted water allotment while still paying 100% of their fees and taxes.  Now, I don&#8217;t know how anyone else would feel about this but if I walked into a 7-11 bought a 32 oz slurpee then received only 3.2 oz while the cashier proceeded to pour the rest down the drain I&#8217;d be pretty pissed off.  That&#8217;s what is happening to farmers it&#8217;s just on a way more grotesque scale, because the trickle down effect for California will be completely irreversible, entire towns will dry up so to speak.    </p>
<p>The Central Valley is one of only 3 areas in the world, one of which is Iraq, that are bio-diverse enough with the right climate to support the varied vegetable, fruit, nut, grain, dairy, and meat production that Central California supports.  California ag now produces over 400 different commodities and in 2007 recorded $36.6 billion in direct farm sales, that figure does not include value added product or supporting and secondarily related industries. We have a tremendous gift here, it would be wholly immoral to allow it to simply dry up over foolish and petty politics.  </p>
<p>If anyone is still awake after reading this there are a lot of real good resources for information:</p>
<p>US Bureau of Reclamation, <a href="http://www.usbr.gov/mp/cvp/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.usbr.gov/mp/cvp/index.html</a></p>
<p>State of California, <a href="http://www.water.ca.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.water.ca.gov</a></p>
<p>California Department of Food and Agriculture, <a href="http://www.cdfa.ca.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdfa.ca.gov</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.familiesprotectingthevalley.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.familiesprotectingthevalley.com/</a> ; Nonprofit group based in Fresno that is a real clearinghouse for water information</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nunes.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&#038;Issue_id=350eb49e-b0d0-fc95-f8bb-37ee86400e38" rel="nofollow">http://www.nunes.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&#038;Issue_id=350eb49e-b0d0-fc95-f8bb-37ee86400e38</a> ; Website of Congressman Devin Nunes discussing water issues at the Congressional level</p>
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		<title>By: Heather in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our local Central Valley news stations is doing a series of special reports about the water crisis.  Go to www.kmph.com, and choose &quot;special assignments&quot; from the &quot;News&quot; drop-down menu.  I don&#039;t know if it will have all the facts that you&#039;re looking for, but it would be a start.

The consequences of turning the water off have become extreme--empty fields, unemployment at nearly 40% in some cities, empty food banks that can&#039;t meet demand.  Those of us who don&#039;t make our living in agriculture are becoming increasingly unable to fill the gap with our donations, etc.  Something has to give, and soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our local Central Valley news stations is doing a series of special reports about the water crisis.  Go to <a href="http://www.kmph.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kmph.com</a>, and choose &#8220;special assignments&#8221; from the &#8220;News&#8221; drop-down menu.  I don&#8217;t know if it will have all the facts that you&#8217;re looking for, but it would be a start.</p>
<p>The consequences of turning the water off have become extreme&#8211;empty fields, unemployment at nearly 40% in some cities, empty food banks that can&#8217;t meet demand.  Those of us who don&#8217;t make our living in agriculture are becoming increasingly unable to fill the gap with our donations, etc.  Something has to give, and soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, I have found that asking for substantiated facts can bring a thread to a screeching halt. We&#039;d better go back to how we FEEL about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I have found that asking for substantiated facts can bring a thread to a screeching halt. We&#8217;d better go back to how we FEEL about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting and instructive to know the history here.  Having a reasonable policy for the distribution-conservation of water, seems just that: reasonable.  Obviously, both sides will look to score political points here, including that well-known supporter of farmers, Sean Hannity.

Yes, regulators are human and political and will make mistakes just as certainly as people will over-consume desirable resources until they collapse.

Can we have some more FACTS here, including the history of the water resource and the agriculture in the region?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting and instructive to know the history here.  Having a reasonable policy for the distribution-conservation of water, seems just that: reasonable.  Obviously, both sides will look to score political points here, including that well-known supporter of farmers, Sean Hannity.</p>
<p>Yes, regulators are human and political and will make mistakes just as certainly as people will over-consume desirable resources until they collapse.</p>
<p>Can we have some more FACTS here, including the history of the water resource and the agriculture in the region?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep this in mind: liberalism is a mental disorder.</description>
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