Stupak’s Painful Lesson for Abortion Foes
For more than three months, “Bart Stupak will stop this” was a rallying cry for pro-lifers concerned about the Senate’s abortion-funding health bill. However, Stupak caved in exchange for President Obama issuing an executive order that did absolutely “nothing that the Senate bill didn’t do.” In addition, President Obama could repeal his executive order tomorrow.
In essence, these pro-life Democrats sacrificed the cause they held dear to pass a bill that Congressman Stupak said funds abortion — and they got nothing of substance from President Obama in return.
For pro-life activists, the passage of health care reform with its abortion premium and lack of conscience protections for pro-life medical workers should serve as a wake-up call that the Republican Party is the only reliable source of pro-life leadership.
Pro-lifers have tried to play the abortion issue in much the same way the NRA has played the gun issue. The NRA Political Victory Fund famously endorses both Republicans and Democrats who share its position. They can do this quite easily because gun control is, for the most part, a somewhat isolated issue. Abortion is far more complex, as the health care vote revealed.
Democrats had to choose between their pro-life principles and their desire to pass comprehensive health care. They opted for the expansion of big government, and this is just the latest in a series of sell-outs of the pro-life community that go back decades.
Before Stupak, Senators Ben Nelson (D-Ne.) and Bob Casey (D-Pa.) sold out the pro-life movement by pushing through the Senate health care bill.
Some other disappointments include:
Democrats for Life of America had to dismiss Congressman Tim Ryan (D-OH), a former board member elected with endorsements from National Right to Life, after Ryan introduced an abortion reduction bill that included funds for the world’s largest abortion provider, Planned Parenthood.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) switched from pro-life to pro-choice before the 2004 presidential election so he could run a credible campaign.
Al Gore has morphed from a pro-life congressman from Tennessee who voted for legislation that would define the unborn as persons under the Fourteenth Amendment to a keynote speaker for NARAL.
This is hardly an exhaustive list. The number of Democrats who at one time were “pro-life” is staggering, and includes Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Ted Kennedy, Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND), and Congressman Frank Pallone (D-NJ).
Pro-life voters often take the view that a pro-life candidate is always better than a pro-choice candidate. In reality, a moderately pro-choice Republican is probably a better pick for the abortion issue than a pro-life Democrat.
Consider the political gravity of the abortion issue. As a rule, politicians are ambitious people. Getting elected to high office will often lead to seeking an even higher office. Had Clinton run in the 1992 Democratic primaries as a pro-life Democrat, Jerry Brown would have been elected president. Trying to climb the political ladder as a pro-life Democrat is like trying to swim to the surface from the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean with a 200-pound lead weight tied around your waist.
With pro-life Democrats, abortion is often only one concern of many and is usually tied to an overall bigger government agenda, as illustrated by Congressman Tim Ryan’s “give Planned Parenthood money to reduce abortion” bill. Since they belong to a political party that takes a stridently pro-choice stance and received 98% of Planned Parenthood’s political contributions in the 2008 cycle, abortion is far down on the list of the pro-life Democrats’ priorities.
Politicians are asked to take a stand on every issue under the sun. If a politician is a good person, some of these stands are very important to them. However, some issues are about as important to political leaders as what toppings they’ll have on their pizza.
In some races, it behooves a candidate to run on an issue he doesn’t care about in order to get elected and then use the advantages of incumbency to secure the seat while disappointed supporters sigh about being betrayed by yet another politician.
A pro-abortion stance is an article of faith within the Democratic Party. Democrats who want to be leaders of their party need to distance themselves from pro-life credentials.
In contrast, in the Republican Party the pressures are almost exactly the opposite. Witness the transformation of Senator Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) from a 1996 pro-choice Senate candidate to a candidate who now runs as pro-life.
Mitt Romney likewise ran as pro-choice in Massachusetts and told the National Abortion Rights Action League they needed someone like him in Washington. However, in order to go to Washington as anything other than a U.S. senator, Romney needed to change his abortion position — so he did.
Even Rudy Giuliani moderated his pro-choice views for the 2008 presidential campaign. While mayor of New York and running for the U.S. Senate in New York, Giuliani took the position that partial birth abortion shouldn’t be banned. Now, he favors banning partial birth abortion. On overturning Roe v. Wade, Guliani said, “It’d be okay.”
Giuliani’s remark came off as flippant and satisfied no one concerned about abortion, but his statement reflected the view of many politicians. If Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, there would be few congressional offices where the boss would spring for chardonnay to celebrate. A similarly small number of members of Congress would truly be sullen and depressed. Politicians would manufacture the feelings where appropriate, but most politicians didn’t become involved in politics because of a concern about abortion. They would rather take the politically convenient stand on an issue they don’t truly care about.
Moderately pro-choice Republicans who oppose abortion after the first trimester and who oppose abortion funding while supporting restrictions like parental consent may also be a better pick for pro-life voters in a general election than a pro-life Democrat because of the limited good congresspeople can do on abortion. Given the implausibility of banning abortion right now, there’s a limited number of issues pro-life Democrats can effect:
1) Leadership of congress
Who controls Congress determines who is the speaker of the House and the majority leader of the Senate. Electing a member of Congress is not unlike marrying someone. You not only marry them, you marry their whole family. Every pro-life Democrat in Congress has made it possible for Nancy Pelosi to serve as speaker of the House, Harry Reid to serve as Senate majority leader, and Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) and Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) to be in charge of the judiciary committees. Every pro-life vote to elect a “pro-life Democrat” has the effect of empowering the pro-choice hegemony in Congress.
2) Abortion-funding restrictions
A pro-life Democrat who opposes abortion funding and a pro-choice Republican who opposes abortion funding will promise to vote the same way, except the pro-choice Republican won’t receive pressure from the whip’s office to vote for abortion funding. The same thing goes for general abortion policy.
3) Personnel
On the abortion issue, the saying “personnel is policy” is spot-on. And it’s here that pro-life Democrats consistently disappoint. Despite the fact Sonia Sotomayor’s judicial philosophy would almost certainly favor abortion rights, both pro-life Senate Democrats supported her confirmation. A look back at the 2006 Pennsylvania Senate race between Santorum and Casey reminds us that Santorum would never have supported Sotomayor.
Even the sainted Governor Bob Casey, Sr. appointed a pro-choice Democrat to the Senate and ensured his election in 1991. Why? Party loyalty binds pro-life Democrats to support and promote the party’s overwhelmingly pro-choice appointees and political candidates.
Any politician who has been in office builds a political machine, and the political machines of pro-life Democrats end up helping elect many extremely pro-choice Democrats. While Stupak is synonymous with pro-life Democrats, his campaign committee has sent thousands of dollars to pro-choice candidates and officeholders, such as Senators Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
There are sincere pro-life Democrats out there who really believe what they say and are trying the best they can. However, invariably, because of their party membership, they do more damage than good to the pro-life cause. Pro-lifers putting their trust in “pro-life Democrats” are asking for more drama than a season of Melrose Place.
The goal of pro-life activists shouldn’t be to elect dishonest and self-serving Republicans who only see the light after feeling the heat. The goal should be to elect sincere, committed statesmen who take a pro-life stance. However, to avoid the waste of money, credibility, and patience brought about by pro-life sunshine soldiers like Ben Nelson and Tim Ryan, pro-lifers would do best to invest their efforts in the Republican Party only.
Now I understand why Bart Jr killed himself some years ago…he couldn’t bear the shame of finding out what a gutless,unprincipled opportunist his father was.
Mr. Mitchell, your post is disgusting. Please get in the corner with Rosenbaum, Rosie O’Donnell, Sean Penn, and the like. Birds of feather, you know.
Where on G*re’s green earth do you suppose they dredge up their run-of-the-mill pajamatarian guruettes and gurus from, Dr. Bones?
And then, the local incarnation or facsimile of Big Management havin’ once dredged ’em up, how shall the ordinary neocustomer tell one from the next?
But possibly the question is misconceived and what neocomradologists would do better to concern ourselves with is whether the KSM kiddies pay any attention worth mentionin’ to the qualitative side in the first place. Why should the kiddies *wish* to be able to tell Bruce from Adam from their grand neoörnament of Qannâdî Lit. [1], if all that matters to them be sheer weight of noisepower?
But hush! Here’s ‘Adam’, _et au moins il est différent_. Sorta:
“To acknowledge the Lordship of Christ in our lives in all we do, and in particular, by being respectful to commenters and other bloggers. To become one of the Internet’s most influential blogs. To be known as a blog that states forth honest opinions rather than echoing a party line. To be a trustworthy blog by practicing fairness and accuracy, and quickly correcting any mistakes that occur. To be part of our nation’s solution and not part of its problems. To be a forum for the authors to showcase their literary works and to always remember that there’s more to life than politics.”
One expects an Nth-rate pajamatarian to be IQ-challenged, and Adam emphatically does not disappoint. Admittedly, it can be an uphill struggle, at times, to explain to decent political grown-ups why the antithesis of “honest opinions” and “echoing a Party line” is unworthy of a rational creature.
Such, however, is the bed upon which Master Adam has chosen for himself to lie, so we might as well move on at once to a more particularized criticism, one that stands out like a SORE THUMB: Why, havin’ once perpetrated the nitwit antithesis, would the nitwit perp want to become a pajamatarian guru(ette) as well as the Sole Remainin’ Honest Blogger?
Can this specimen be under the impression that it has sighted any showcasin’ of literary works around these parts? Any widespread neoremembrance amongst the KSM kiddies of
_Grau, theurer Freund, ist alle [Politik] / Und grün des lebens goldner Baum_?
Such question answer themselves, _nicht wahr_? Tired of the noise and bustle of beautiful downtown Wingnut City, Master Adam has boldly resolved to camp out in the middle of Governess S. Heath-Paling Memorial Park, _i.e._, of that little scrap of gray-green inside the traffic rotary directly in front of the W.C. City Hall.
As I say, sir: where does Padschamestani Big Management dredge ’em up from?
Happy days.
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[1] http://tinyurl.com/ykp5nzv
Naturally the Muses and you and I take a special interest in that particular neospecimen, Dr. Bones, but, judging from the general level of the peanut gallery, well, one is tempted to change a word or two of
“Alas, for the South! Her books have grown fewer / She was never much given to literature.”
(( http://tinyurl.com/yjw2m78 ))
“For pro-life activists, the passage of health care reform with its abortion premium and lack of conscience protections for pro-life medical workers should serve as a wake-up call that the Republican Party is the only reliable source of pro-life leadership.”
I even had to learn the hard way that one simply should never trust a Democrat “pro-lifer.” Bart Stupak’s betrayal has stunned me to the core of my very being. It has rendered me almost speechless for the last few days. I confidently told my more cynical buddy that he could be trusted up to the very last day. The pessimism concerning the Michigan congressman seemed greatly exaggerated. Regrettably, I was unaware of the now infamous Cheboygan video of Stupak’s primary goal of getting a health care past through the House of Representatives until shortly after his betrayal.
The irony is that both pro-lifers and those more secular who are anti-socialist have learned the hard way about the present day Democratic Party. Countless “pro-choice” purple state voters have cast their ballots for Democrat candidates thinking these individuals are somewhat sane regarding economic matters. They now realize that the party has been captured by those devoted to the destruction of the free market. The Democratic Party is, for all practical purposes, existentially committed to the enslavement of all citizens earning their living in the private sector.
‘Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report that the abortion rate from 1974-2004 has dropped 33 percent from an average 29 per 1,000 women ages 15-44 to 20 per 1,000 women in recent years.’
http://www.healthnews.com/family-health/pregnancy-childbirth-parenting/pregnancy-rise-abortion-rates-lowest-30-years-1825.html
People’s perception of the candidate and his/her stance on abortion only seems to have to do with that candidates election and little to do with abortion rates. With candidates flip floping back and forth depending on how they think the wind is blowing, it seems to me their stance, whether for or against has little to do with abortion rates. If we want those stats to continue to drop, it is our own social attitudes that have to change, not legislation.
The first clue that Pro-Lifers should have seen, was Stupak voted for federal funds for Planned Parenthood, which uses the greater share of that money for abortions. Stupak got his day in the sunshine and that was what it was about.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRO LIFE DEMOCRAT. CASEY IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF THE GUTLESS POLITICIAN WHO WILL ALWAYS PUT HIS PARTY LOYALTY ABOVE ANY CORE VALUES HE MIGHT THINK HE HAS. THE PARTY COMES FIRST IN ALL THINGS. GOOD THING FOR NRA TO KEEP IN MIND; IF YOU BACK DEMOCRATS THEY WILL TURN ON YOU IN A MINUTE; THEY HAVE NO SENSE OF HONOR OR DECENCY.
In a few days or maybe a couple of weeks time but the time will SURELY come for Stupak to speak these words in private of course cant let the ‘plebs’ know Obambi is a LIAR
“But but but…….. Obama You PROMISED!!!!!!! me” .
Mark my words
Bill Clinton’s deceived the American people when saying he never had sex with Monica Lewinsky. He then later claimed that oral sex wasn’t real sex! This is typical of the present day Democrat. Postmodernists simply cannot be trusted. At the end of the day, these Democrats squeeze the truth, bend it, and do all sorts of other nasty things to it. Their true goal is subtly inserted in the third chapter, second paragraph, and fifteenth sentence.
I am still stunned by how Burt Stupak conned me. It is most embarrassing because I have long presented myself as something of a brutally frank and insightful analyst. Oh well, maybe I will eventually live down this humiliating chapter of my life.
I think it is naive to believe that Stupidak caved just because of the EO. From what I can tell and reading a lot of small stories about his life in Ohio, it looks like Chicago style politics all the way. He had to disconnect his home phone and said that the threats he and his family were receiving daily were hell on earth. Think about that for a second and try to come up with a group of people who do that kind of thing, threaten and bully, on a daily basis. Why it’s Obama’s ACORN and SEIU. My theory is that Stupidak might have held out but with the scary kind of pressure he reached the breaking point. I did see the video of him saying that he might vote for the bill last year even if his amendment wasn’t adopted but the Dems don’t mess around with “Mavericks” like Repubs do. He was a marked man by the Dems.
Very simple.
Bart Stupak is either a coward or unprincipled liar. He would have done better to simply cast a ‘Yes’ vote months ago and been done with it. Principled men do not cave under pressure and Stupak is never to be trusted again.
I used to believe in a spirit of American bipartisanship that men and women of supposed good will, even in adamant disagreement, could converse rationally about an issue as important as life and death. Where it concerns abortion, I do not believe that anymore.
And I hope that Glenn Beck, who I generally like, pulls his head out of the sand and now recognizes, as should many Libertarians who have made the same claim “There is no difference between the Republican and Democratic party”, now realize just how wrong they were.
@3 – What is this eldritch meandering attempting to convey to the readers and commenters on this blog? Apparently, you are too enamoured with your favorite poet, who is still a joke among serious poets and literati, to comprehend the lameness of your inane attempt at penning something profound and relevant. If you are trying to convey a simple point, i.e., “I don’t have any respect for anything Southern”, be a man and come out and say it. Your inept offerings are an insult to anyone who possesses an I.Q. above 75. You are an insult to trolls everywhere.
If anyone actually believes Bart Stupak was ever going to vote against the bill on the final vote should stop and consider the history of the Democrat party and the loyalty of the devout members over the past 40 years. They will always stay and never stray far from the fold and will follow their leaders with the simplicity and obedience of the robots portrayed in Metropolis. In particular when it comes to the single, most important ideological plank in the Democrat platform, abortion. If all it took for Stupak to change his vote was the assurance from Obama he would issue an executive order invoking adherence to the Hyde Amendment, why wait until the last minute? Why go through the drama and suspense of a soap opera? Why the political theatre?
I had no doubts about the outcome when Pelosi first announced the vote and assured the president it would pass. Everything else was staged for maximum effect because she knew beforehand the votes were there. Democrats know how to set the stage and optimize the impact of an historical moment. Republicans were played with an adeptness they cannot muster or equal. They played the perfect fools to the court of Obama and in the end, he got exactly what he wanted from day one. He knew the bill would have to be pared down and some provisions weakened or taken out for the immediate future. But, he also knew provisions were left intact that will allow and guarantee he will achieve his ultimate goal and the bill will eventually be all inclusive for every provision liberals and Democrats have been working to achieve for over 90 years. If we take the time and consider history and some works of fiction, this was the perfect Brer Rabbit moment for Democrats. They challenged Republicans to toss them into the briar patch and guess what? They did.
@#5 Eva – I agree with you. Abortions have been around for centuries and women have been able to secure the services of a provider, one way or another. I am pro-life and do not agree with abortion, however, if we are to ever achieve zero abortions, your point is the only way the goal can be reached. It is the social attitude of the individual and the individual must make the decision – abort or not. Unfortunately, abortion is now entrenched into the social and political fabric of this nation and repeal is unlikely. If we make the connection between abortion, social security, medicare, and now, the health care bill, if we consider how long the first three have been around and how often their very existence has been unsuccessfully challenged, we can see from recent history, the health bill is here to stay.
Like it or not, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and Democrats can fly the banner, “Mission Accomplished”.
Bart Stupak (Stupak is as Stupak does) is just another reason why Americans should drive every Dimocrat from our government. When you cast your next vote for U.S. House, THINK for a moment…do you want your representative under the authority of Nancy Pelosi? Republicans should institute a campaign of picturing a shadowy Pelosi (and her 11% popularity) standing behind every Dimocrat running for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. The prospect should make every American shudder.
You’re clueless. Everybody on the inside knew Stupak was a baby killer at heart. He’s is and always was a worth piece of s**t.
Could we begin a new era BY NOT USING THE LANGUAGE OF THE DEVIL ?
“Abortion foes ” ?????
What about “Babies’ murder foes” ???????
Stupak is a traitor,,, ’nuff said.
#3, Your intellect is so extreme, as to be useless. Another thing you have in common with the D’s; thinking you are so much smarter than everyone else, you obviously should be in control. As you get older, we will find you droooooooling in the corner room of a red-diaper baby asylum. One who thinks as you do cannot live a sane life.
Oh geez…
Can we please STOP perpetuating the myth that Stupak ever had ANY intention of blocking socialized medicine?? He made his position on this issue clear long before Pelosi’s puppet theater got under way.
That entire reality show was written to give Stupak and his faux-life posse political cover in order to pass a bill where the only evidence of bipartisanship was IN THE OPPOSITION TO IT.
That said, I’m sorry to be the one to have to tell you all this, but this incident doesn’t demonstrate the “folly” of trusting Democrats – as if they’re different from any other flavor politician.
This incident demonstrates the long-running, blind stupidity of FOLLOWING THE LEFT’S LEAD and ALLOWING THE LEFT TO DEFINE THE RULES for all political debate, in this case, by treating abortion as a valid political issue, and using a politician’s alleged stance on abortion as some sort of litmus test of character. It is neither.
Federal funding for ANY sort of unsavory, controversial and/or socially suicidal activity can ONLY be controlled by reducing the size of government and taking back the extra-Constitutional authority that we, the People, have tacitly ceded to it. Arguing over who’s going to support a so-called “right” to abortion, or not, is a waste of time in that context, because the argument never ends.
I have a suggestion that doesn’t involve pouring more money, effort and wasted time down the drain chasing this issue – hopefully this isn’t the wrong crowd for that. Do you have an emotional and/or religious conviction that makes abortion abhorrent? Fine. You’re in the majority. Stop wasting time trying to force others to agree with your conviction by way of endlessly, fruitlessly, wastefully belaboring the point, and work to reduce the size and scope of government so that it no longer has the MOTIVE, MEANS or OPPORTUNITY to support abortion in the first place.
Eva, I am very glad to see the abortion numbers drop.
But, do you think that this piece of legisltion will be a catalyst to those numbers falling further?
I think with easier access to financial support to abort, as well as the MSM , Dems, and the president in favor of abortion, the number of procedures will increase.
Stupid..or is it Stupak and most dino.s (democrats in name only) continue to let our great country down. There are approx 50 or so of them in congress and the senate that run away from leading.. when its time to “man up” on health care and other vital issues that define our great country. I can understand republicans that are pro-life (but anti children and their parents when it comes to abuse and other “real” life and death issues), and must tow the party line. But these democrats vote with the pro-elite, insurance, pro oil companies and their lackies on almost every issue. They should leave the democratic party now. They are gutless. Good thing he is from Michigan, a real working man.s state, so the unions set him straight, and it worked. He should consider another career.
Mr Graham: You wrote “Democrats had to choose between their pro-life principles”, and made me snicker because there hasn’t been a real democrat in that Party since Scoop Jackson’s death in 1983, and using “principles” in the same breath mentioning any of these quicksilver pinkos is almost a sin, isn’t it?
Stupak is a liar and an opportunist. Check out this link for further proof. Vote him OUT!!
http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2010/03/21/stupaks-been-lying-all-along-video-surfaced-obamas-deal-wont-even-count/
Abortion will never be reduced to 0%, because it is a sin. Rather because we are prisoners of the desires of our flesh. That which impels a woman to kill her child is the same is that which impels her to abandon or neglect her child, as Obama’s mother did him. We are now living with the consequences of her lack of love.
Shouting, Hooting, and Howling
. . . Now he says he was misquoted out of context and “In the heat and emotion of the debate, I exclaimed the phrase ‘it’s a baby killer’ in reference to the agreement reached by the Democratic leadership:” http://bit.ly/9WfMer
Either the two word or the four word term serves as a fitting expletive for both Stupak and the Obamacare bill even if the president has pledged to issue a toothless executive order prohibiting the use of federal funds for aborting babies. . .
Few would call Ann Coulter a studied practitioner of the decorous arts or of wimpiness but to say she peddles venomous hatred and violence is way over the top.
Nevertheless, that’s precisely what some are saying in Canada where Coulter was invited to speak at the University of Western Ontario. Two conservative student members of the Campus Coalition for Democracy extended the invitation which was immediately met with loud protests. . .
When one dumb scheme fails, why not institute a dumber initiative? What’s next? An ordinance prohibiting babies from crying, birds from singing, car engines from making noise?
The Piscatawayan town fathers and mothers must be liberals. How else to explain such stupid ordinances? . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1583)
I think the main thing to recognize is that in spite of the idealist crap they spew for the gullible and thier faithful, you have to be a complete and absolute cynic to get anywhere as a democrat candidate at even the local level. Cynics who see how well lying works at the lower levels are not going to stick to any thing they say or any promise they make when the get to the highest levels. By the time a democrat makes it to Congress, they’re either a complete and dedicated liar or have a staff that will turn them into one for the good of the party. Never, under any circumstance, will electing a democrat further or recovery of our freedoms.
Regards.
Drudge Report has a posting on why Stupak changed his vote. I do not think I should write it, as props should go to the individual who sniffed out the reason.
Representative Bart Stupak is yet another example that Blue Dog Democrats do not exist; when the crunch time comes, they follow their Socialist leader off the cliff into the abyss. Stupak’s career is over.
When a Blue Dog campaigns he is anti-abortion, hold up ObamaCare, Bart Stupak, & every other Blue Dog who has previously voted on Porkulus, Crap & Tax, etc al. When you want an anti-abortion candidate, vote Republican. When you vote a Blue Dog Democrat all you get is Nancy Pelosi…
How long before ‘stuck on stupac’ enters the nation’s lexicon?
Gordo12, you may be right about that. However, I am not sure how this affects Medicaid. Currently Medicaid does not cover abortions so I don’t know if the bill will change Medicaid rules on abortion or if it will only apply to coverage outside of Medicaid. If Medicaid rules will now cover abortions…. But how much of one is anyone’s guess. I don’t see that there has been any financial change that would make the rates come down as they have over the last 30 or so years. It certainly is much easier to have and keep a baby now than it was back in the 70′s. Less stigma, (these days there is non actually) more programs and services to help poor families etc. Things are so much different now in that regard so I don’t think financial ability to get an abortion plays into it that much anymore. We can hope.
I think Stupak’s family was threatened for his vote
Lesson? Democrats are selfish, lying no-character bastards!
noreen (30)
I think Stupak’s family was threatened for his votem
So, he lays down with dogs, shares the bones and Alpo that the dogs pass out, but when his pups get threatened I everyone should get fleas to defend his pups?
Gimmie a break, It would take one hell of a lot of evidence for me to believe anything said about threats is anything other than more democrat crap they hope will save democrat seats. Unless he has US Marshals or someone he trusts taking his family into protective custody while he spells out in great detail and with a good deal of proof that he was threatened, I’m not buying it.
Regards
Regards
Poor Citizen: Please for the love of mercy stop writing as it was YOU who wrote recently
“THOUSANDS of people are DYING as I write”
Yet still you persist in writing have you no compassion ????? LOL
Oh my the Christ psychotics are at it again.
Why not just outlaw wire hangers, button hooks, crochet hooks, and the like? (Who really needs tea cozies?) Much cheaper than federal grants and the creative accounting needed to show that federal dollars aren’t funding abortions…
Can we please put to rest the myth of the “moderate Democrat?”
Can we please put to rest the myth of the “moderate Democrat?”
Along with the “caring liberal” since they’re quite happy to have the benefits kick in years from now in order to make sure they taxes and limits on you don’t happen prior to reelection time. There are no moderate or compassionate democrats just as there are no moderate or compassionate Muslims. The fact that barry is both democrat and Muslim is worth thinking about for a bit, especially if Muslims are exempted from being forced to pay for insurance but no prohibited reaping whatever rewards there are.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010
03/amish_muslims_to_be_excused_fr.html
Regards
32. I don’t know. I smell a rat. If Stupak was just putting on Kabuki theater, why would he blow the whistle on Democrats’ meetings behind closed doors where they said things like, “You don’t understand, we want to fund abortion?” That doesn’t make any sense, because it means Stupak would have been attacking his own party for no reason at all. What does make sense is that Deadfish cornered him alone in the gym and threatened him personally. Ditto for the others who were in his coalition (or perhaps he just told Stupak to let the others know).
myth buster – you never saw a TV show or movie with the “Good Cop / Bad Cop” scam either, I guess…
Stupak’s deceit is nothing. What do you think the back-and-forth between the Democrat and Republican parties has been all about these past 20 years?
The old stup was simply playing macbeth for the benefit of his more ignorant voters. The outcome was never in doubt, and the media was just helping provide the ‘pro-life’ democrats cover for their yes vote.