Stick With the Benjamins, Sarah
If you get into the fight, the other kids will fight back
Let’s face it. Right now you’re perched in the catbird seat. You’ve established yourself as a political king/queen maker. (Even if you did pick a few clunkers in the midterms.) And the beautiful part of this arrangement is that none of the other expected presidential candidates are ever allowed to criticize you while you maintain the role of Interested Private Citizen. If they do they are rapidly beaten down and dragged out to apologize by your minions in the conservative media and the blogs.
But the moment your elk fur-lined ushanka gets tossed into the ring you become a valid target for the rest of the field. Then they’re just going to start pestering you at every turn with questions, questions, and more questions. What specific cuts will you make in the budget? How will you handle Social Security? What will you do about North Korea and Iran and the Russians? And every stumbling response, each three-heartbeat pause before answering, any perceived misstep in your comments will be loudly “refudiated” in the press and run in a non-stop loop on cable television for weeks at a time. And really … who needs that kind of pressure?
You’ll make Tina Fey into a billionaire
You remember Tina, right? And surely you recall how much you secretly despise her. Well, she’s still out there, watching and waiting. Yes, she’s pretty busy with her top rated TV show and all the awards she has to go pick up, but believe me … she’ll make time for you. The moment you officially enter the race she’s not only going to be on Saturday Night Live every week, but she’ll be a regular fixture on MSNBC and all of the late-night comedy gigs. Tina will be showing up on the small screen more often than you do yourself, and once again a large portion of the voting public won’t even be sure which one of you is real. By November of 2012 she’ll be worth more than Oprah and it will all be your doing. Is that what you want? I didn’t think so.
You’re going to lose
Allow me to apologize in advance if that final header is a bit on the blunt side, but it’s time to face up to some harsh realities here. President Obama should be vulnerable in the next election given the current arc of the economy, but his personal popularity and the power of incumbency still make him a formidable opponent. For a Republican to beat him it’s either going to take somebody who already holds enough popularity to finish the march to the finish line or a new face with a lot of room to grow in both name recognition and approval.
Sadly, you don’t fill the bill for either description. You have an impressive army of followers who are loyal to the bitter end, but that’s exactly what the end will be. There is virtually no one left in the country that hasn’t gotten to know you and formed an opinion, and there are no second chances at a first impression in this game. Your disapproval numbers are north of fifty and stubbornly show no signs of budging. If you run you’ll probably come close, but close won’t be good enough. The president knows he is in trouble politically and your best indicator of your prospects should come from looking at a boatload of those less than $200 “anonymous” contributions that have been mailed in to SarahPAC lately. (Hint — they’re coming from Obama.)
And if you lose, what then? You’ve got a great gig going right now, but people may very well stop flocking to the banner of somebody who has either lost or quit three executive level positions in a row. At that point the cash cow may well dry up and the fear factor you now wield will shrink along with it. Is the risk really worth the prize here?
So there you have it — a nickel’s worth of free advice from somebody who may not be one of your supporters, but truly wants to help in the spirit of the Thanksgiving and Christmas season. Barbara Bush wasn’t trying to insult you, Governor Palin. She was just trying to help.
But I will disagree with Mrs. Bush on one count. I don’t think you should stay in Alaska at all. It’s damned cold and mostly dark for half the year. Save up a bit more of that cash you’ve been stockpiling and buy yourself an island in the Florida Keys. Just be sure to spring for the extra hurricane insurance.
Why is it that people who want to criticize Sarah Palin need to use this tone? Where are the logical, reasoned arguments? Even on Pajamas Media we are forced to deal with a rant, dripping with sarcasm…
Jazz say: “President Obama should be vulnerable in the next election given the current arc of the economy[ed, however you neglected to add, Jazz, '...and given the unmistakable earmarks (hahaha) of his ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence...'], but his personal popularity and the power of incumbency still make him a formidable opponent. For a Republican to beat him it’s either going to take somebody who already holds enough popularity to finish the march to the finish line or a new face with a lot of room to grow in both name recognition and approval.”
“…should be vulnerable…?” But Jazz, the Dems, if they are dumb enough to want to field the loser now in the WH again, and they are, I say the Dems will lose to almost anyone the Repubs bring out from somewhere in the 57 states. Cute article, but you haven’t offered any real evidence fot this cliche of a charge that she will lose, now have you. Therefore, your piece is worthless pinheadizing.
Oh, that south 50% item you mention, how about that south, and steering on a straight course toward the equator, of 40% favorability number for Obama! As far as name recognition is concerned, the nitwit scribblers for the Left have made her one of the most well-known people in the country. “…name recognition…” Get real.
I completely agree with westbankmama that the tone of this entry is totally disrespectful, condescending, and patronizing. Not fit to be directed to our former VP nominee and someone who has had a HUGE impact on GOP success over the past few years.
I’d just like to add the following: Nobody has any business ostensibly TELLING Sarah Palin that she should or should not run for GOP nominee in 2012. That is the height of presumptiveness. The decision of whether or not to run is a personal one for all candidates, and it is totally improper to be publicly calling for her not to run.
The decision of whether or not to support her once she gets in the race, well, that is for each of us to decide. Unless someone better jumps out of the jack-in-the-box, though, I will be supporting Palin.
Another clueless pundit weighs in. Everything you know about politics and campaigning is obsolete. The old paradigms do not work.
Tina Fey? Really? Everything they throw at Palin now fails to stick. People are figuring it out. Fey will make money, but it will only expose the bias more and make Palin’s case for her.
Going to lose? Really? She has done pretty much everything that got Obama elected. Made a great speech. Folks started to talk about her being a potential candidate. Built a huge grassroots organization. Became a celebrity/symbol. Harnessed technology. She is going to absolutely duplicate his achievement for all the same reasons.
Oh, they are going to grill her. So? Do you think she is still the same person she was just 2 years ago? She has been cannily preparing this run ever since the frivolous lawsuits piled on. She has done it very well, too. And you just can’t see it, Jazz, because you do not WANT to.
Marc,
The article is well reasoned and brings up some great points. You say Palin is in same exact position as obama was but the article refutes that point and you seem unable to pick up on it. Obama was a complete unknown even in the primaries. Everyone in the country knows Palin and what she stands for and the majority does not approve. No one can get elected with numbers like that, face the facts. Also, regarding your idea that she has become well polished in the last two years — she is even looking dumb on the Glenn Beck program talking about “standing by our allies in North Korea” — I mean this is basic stuff and she still can’t get it down. What do you think will happen when she runs for the most scrutinized job in the world? Also, do you really want to vote for someone who QUITS in the middle of an elected term?? That is just sad, no one just quits like that, its pathetic.
Finally, just ask yourself, why do all the liberals want her to run? The same reason the liberal media put a spotlight on Sharon Angle and Christine Odonnell — do you remember what happened to them?
well hell, just bring on those 57 states
a slip of the tongue and then correcting it is different than what Obama presents ..
They wanted Reagan to run, too. They were salivating at the prospect.
More than half the country disapproves of her… now. Her numbers have been on an upward trajectory for some time. Here favorables/unfavorables have closed to -3 (46/49). She looks better all the time. When she runs, folks will have to re-assess. It is no foregone conclusion.
You also fail to note that Obama’s numbers are worse than hers, having hit 39% approval last week. Below 40% is political death for a President. Clinton used to worry when it his dipped below 50%. If given a choice at this very moment between Obama and Palin, whom do you think would win? It may be the lesser of two evils to your mind, but if that is the choice, YOUR choice is clear.
So where is the “former” part of former Rino coming in? Or are you saying you used to be a Rino and now you are a Democrat?
I don’t know, I see a lot of snark and not much substance in this article. I am not sure if you actually believe what you are saying or are just purposely baiting Palin fans. I Either way, I am sure your flamebaiting will be successful. Meanwhile, I will wander on my merry way looking for something with a bit less of a leftward slope.
Dittos! My thoughts exactly…
Jazz is full of BS, and belongs at Huffpo. Not on a conservative blog.
. Why are you here Jazz? your sarcasm puts you in the camp of Tina Fay, Joy Behar (puke)>, low lifes who reach up to even touch bottom..
We won’t be reading your offerings anymore.
Abi, come on now comparing this article with Joy Behar? Please try to be a little objective and look at the facts. I too puke in my mouth a little bit when I hear Joy’s voice — but this article is just telling it like it is. I think a lot of commenters on here just want to here cheerleading and not pay attention to reality. This article tells a lot of truth — the over 50% disapproval rating, quitting on the job — doesnt it concern you that against Obama it looks like she will most likely lose? Dont you want the best conservative candidate to face off against Obama? I want a real victory not a moral victory because anything less means 4 more years of Obama, the most liberal president ever. It is really worth the risk of having that happen just so you can see Palin be the nominee? Not for me.
Also, the liberals are the ones telling Palin to run, not conservatives who want Obama out– how does it feel to be siding with Ms. Joy Behar?
see #4
They call Sarah Palin stupid.After reading this post,I believe Mr. Shaw should be placed in the sub moronic category. If Mrs. Palin runs she will have to go through the primary and caucus system like everyone else. The decision should be made by the voters, not third rate bloggers.
amen
We the People are (usually) the final arbiter of who runs in this Country. Don’t ask me to explain how McCain won the Primaries, I think We Conservatives were all asleep at the wheel there.
I liked Gov. Palin when she was nominated as V.P candidate, but thought she lacked a little something…rhat has all changed now!
Sarah Palin has the drive and enthusiasm to lead this Country, as for Gravitas? well we will see won’t we?
Most Importantly – Stopping the Leftie/Socialists!
The more people try to shoot Sarah Palin down in the fashion of RINO Jazz and commie Fay, or the rotten Brain, the more I think Ms. Palin should run.
Like the rest of the country, I was initially impressed with her when the other freeking RINO introduced her as his running mate. I was seriously disappointed when Sarah demonstrated her ignorance during the following interviews. Jeesus, read a book or two.
She lost me totally when she quit the governors job, until the truth came out: she needed the money.
She is one impressive lady, a self-made American full of ideas and true grit. Good for her making billions – this is America after all, but her TV show sucks. Why she is hated so much from left to the POS RINOs is beyond me. She has done nothing to deserve the badmouthing.
As to Mrs. Bush, f her. Her husband and father-in-law ran this ship to the ground, and they should stay in Texas and shut up.
Run Sarah, run, don’t give the a$$holes the satisfaction. I’d rather vote for Palin than the RINO bunch: Romney, Huckabe, Gingrich, etc. (I sure hope I get to vote Americans like Jindal.)
Jazz, it’s the American people that will decide – you got problem with that? You’d stay with the HotAir.
Sarah Palin should not run in 2012. She lacks the legislative experience needed to handle the everyday responsibilities of the presidency. Palin is increasingly getting her act together intellectually. The woman already has a clear understanding of economics and seems to be investing a lot of effort delving in foreign policy matters. In other words, Palin is vastly better educated than Barack Obama. Americans have learned a cruel lesson. John F. Kennedy had a difficult time during the 1960 presidential campaign convincing voters his sixteen years in both Houses of Congress were sufficient preparation! The next president should possess a significant resume. A virtual amateur should not reside in the White House.
I like Palin. I find her fascinating and wish her all the best. But, I’d like to see someone with more experience as the GOP nominee (e.g. Governors like Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, maybe Chris Christie or Congress persons like Paul Ryan).
Neither of them have more experience than Sarah.
Now do some research and come back.
Ditto’ Sapwolf;As Suspected Too Many,Believe Everything They Are Told,From The Liberal Media,To The Intellectual Elitist Rainmen,Establishment Republicans.From Karl Rove,Charles Krauthammer,Newt Gingrich,Mike Huckabee,Mitt Romney,Hayley Barbour,Mitch Daniels,Etc.All Only Two Years Ago Was Licking Their Lips,Idolizing Barack Obama.Sarah Is The Only One Who Saw This Self-Serving Socio-Path.Barack Obama,For Who He Was.The Rest Have Been Kissing The Butts Of The Clinton’s As Well.Especially Newt Gingrich,Karl Rove,And The Bush Family.I Think All Of Them,Are The Last One’s Who Should Talk About Experience.All Of Them Contributed To Not Only A 14 Trillion Dollar Debt.But Has Helped Prop-up A Society Of Predators,Deadbeats,SexualPerverts,Addicted,And Obsessed,Death,And Destructio-A-Holics,And Made Treason,Perjury,Genocide,Pedophilia,Rape,Involuntary Servitude/Slavery,Civil,And Human Rights Trafficking(CASH FOR FLUNKIES,Descendents Of Monkey’s,And Junkies)Embezzelment,Extortion,And Ponzi Schemes,And Call IT,A Civil Right,And For The Good Of The Collective.If These Sarah Bashers Would Actually Look At Her Record Of Accomplishments,In Business,And Government.She Surpasses All Of Them,Not To Mention Her Wisdom Forsight,Character,Vision,Principals,And Good Judgement To See In The Beginning,What These Liberal Suck-ups Did Not.But They Won’t;Too Busy Trying To Find Their Next High,Brought In From Their Suppliers Coming Across The Border,I Guess.And Living In Their Own Little World Of Make Believe,And Listening To Whom Ever Tells them That Their Addictions,And Obsessions Are Normal Behavior,And Their Right To Break The Law,Aid,And Abeit,Human,Sex,And Drug Traffickers.Jimmy Joe/”The Liarfryer”
Well said, but you need to discover the space bar.
Looks like a ransom note with letters cut out from a newspaper.
I’m opening a rehab clinic. The motto:
“Caps – just say no”
Hi Tom. Don’t you think you should disclose that you’re a professional Palin fanboy from Conservatives4Palin, et al?
Anne,
Fanboy? Nope
Supporter? Yes
Professional? Nope. I wish I got paid. Maybe if I was SEIU.
I support anybody who supports our God-given rights, presented in our Declaration & Constitution, and is for Restoration of the Republic.
(cue music – “Stars & Stripes Forever”)
You have listed a nice selection of rino’s and weak sisters. It you want substance try Sarah, Lt Col West, Rubio or some other solid Conservative. It hasn’t come out yet but the Gov of NJ has a strong leftist leaning, he supports letting illegals in, cap and trade and I believe obama care, so he is certainly out
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/20/awesome-chris-christie-tells-of-apology-from-president-of-teachers-union/
Jendal has shown a lot of weakness and I get the impression he is a closet moderate. His speech some months back following the state of the union, I think, was very weak.
Listen to Lt Col West speak some time, he is a no holds bared Conservative. If you want to hear a rino, listen to cornyn speak some time, he starts off telling you he is Conservative and then talks like a moderate, he is also for illegal amnesty. I have written him often enough about it and got his milk toast replies.
Put up some Conservative names if you know any.
Thank God you don’t get to use your version of “Experience” to pick the next candidate. Boby Jindal has been Gov for almost 4 years and has the excitement of a 7-11 cashier. Perry is one step away from being dumb. He is lucky that he is still in Texas and not in the real world. Chris Christie has had a good start but has done nothing FOR NJ except cut spending by the state. Not that he has had time to but he hasn’t offered a vision for the state and certainly not the country. Paul Ryan is a CPA wonk who thinks reading actuarials is exciting. The thing most people miss entirely is that the president must have the ability to LEAD! None of these people are leaders. They also have to have skin made of steel to survive the next term in office. Maybe Christie has it but not Jindal or Perry. They must also have the ability to choose the right person for the right job and know that they can trust them to do the right thing. If anyone on the planet knows trust it is Sarah Palin!
…yeah, thank God Rick Perry is still stuck in such an isolated, sparsely populated, politically insignificant state that has shown that it is unable to deal with the economic and political problems at the forefront of the national conversation today…I mean, if he were in a *serious* state like ALASKA (with the huge population, the immense numbers of illegal immigrants, the drug violence on the border, the , he might actually be in over his head.
I don’t hate Palin, but I don’t think she currently has the qualifications for the office of the President. You Palin lovers, on the other hand, are really something else…do y’all think about what y’all say before you say it? Really, now: Perry is unqualified with a decade of experience in one of the largest and most potentially troublesome states in the nation (and doing a damn fine job of keeping Texas economically preeminent nationally), but Palin, who quit AK gov after a few years, is *definitely* qualified? It’s like the right-wing version of Obama-worship.
don’t believe everything you think.
An amateur already resides in the white house. His name is Barry.
Yup, ANOTHER Undocumented worker!
Man I REALLY wanna see his complete unexpurgated records…(Genius My ASS! Affirmative Action in…well Action!)
Barry Obama : Living breathing example of the “Peter Principle”
Color him Clueless
I think Sarah Palin would make a good President. It would not be the first time the leftist elite tried to mark the political opponent as “dumb” or “not qualified”, we know this from the times of two of America`s best presidents ever: Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.
Still I think most important will be to defeat Obama in 2012. Therefore it might be best to run a candidate who is popular within the Republican strongholds, but also will manage to gather independent voters around hin and to win the Swing States. As it`s been suggested here, a ticket like Daniels/Rubio would be an attractive alternative.
Yah, just ignore the entire TPM. Look, we took Ohio because of the TPM. Without the TPM, the GOP can’t win sh*t.
Don`t get me wrong, I strongly support the TPM and its goals. But as certain as the GOP will not win any election without the TPM, it will take more votes for the GOP than only those of the TPM. To become the next president and to defeat Obama, the GOP will have to keep its strongholds and gain as many independent voters as necessary in order to expell the Dems from the White House.
Sarah Palin should run within the Primaries. If she succeeds, the whole GOP should accept the vote and stand behind her. But if she doesn`t, the TPM should also accept the vote and still support the GOP.
Sarah Palin should run within the Primaries. If she succeeds, the whole GOP should accept the vote and stand behind her. But if she doesn`t, the TPM should also accept the vote and still support the GOP
Hardly. Although I rarely vote a straight ticket for all other elections, I have voted Republican in every Presidential election since my first in 1984. The only reason I voted R in 2008 was because of Palin. If she is not the nominee 2 years from now, I will waste my ballot (but vote my conscience) on a 3rd party (most likely small-l libertarian) before I’d vote for another RINO
And to all those who are fond of the “she quit” meme? Yeah, because a selfless leader who sacrifices her own political career to keep her state from going bankrupt from having to defend frivolous lawsuits filed by the opposition is such a bad thing. No wonder you GD Progs don’t understand sacrifice, that kinda concept is foreign to your kind. Face it, she could not have won that battle no matter what she did, which is exactly what the so-called pREgressives wanted
Perhaps, some day in the far future, paleolinguists will succeed in decoding this bizarre document. And perhaps they’ll reach some conclusion about why Pajamas Media accepts such articles. But it’s beyond our powers today.
Judging solely from her accomplishments, Sarah Heath Palin might be the preeminent political genius of our time. From beauty queen runner-up / journalism major, she rose to town mayor, then to state governor, then to vice-presidential nominee, all before the age of 45. Today she bestrides the world of politics — nothing she does goes unreported or unremarked-on — commands huge audiences wherever she goes, and has so hypnotized the left-wing Main Stream Media that her merest Facebook page posting sends them into fits of spittle-flecked rage.
But according to the likes of Jazz Shaw, she’s unelectable. He doesn’t use the word — he pirouettes carefully around it — but that’s his message. His argument? None.
Run, Governor Palin. Make your millions of admirers happy. Make the Left’s blood boil at your daring. Make the Old Media grind its teeth over its failure to dissuade you. Make Jazz Shaw frown and cluck over your cheek at ignoring his “advice.”
Win or lose, this is Palin’s hour. This is her proper contest; Barack Hussein Obama is her proper opponent. And she knows it. They who seek to discourage her from entering the arena are up against a force beyond their power to thwart.
“a nickel’s worth of free advice from somebody who may not be one of your supporters, but truly wants to help…”
Mr. Shaw? Every honest nickel in this land is insulted by your gross stupidity and arrogance in thinking your lies, smirks and half-truths are worth 5 cents. I suggest therefore that, after you finish apologizing to Sarah Palin for your idiotic ‘advice’, you then get down on bended knee to apologize to every nickel in the land. Hopefully, “in the spirit of the Thanksgiving and Christmas season”, they will be gracious enough to accept your apology. After all, someone has to show you what manners look like.
I always find these folksy, catty, overly-familiar open letters to people who don’t know you exist pieces difficult to comprehend.
A wide range of opinions of Mrs. Palin should be tolerated.
Decent argumentative writing is to be desired as well.
The kindergarten-teacher tone of this article is off-putting.
The message expressed by this individual considerably lowers “pajamasmedia.com”…The writer appears to be a frustrated individual–unable to find a niche for himself. And, this “essay” is intellectually vacuous.
Jazz,
Please let the people decide. You (i.e. the left wing media) put an incompetent Obama into “leading” the nation and, as a consequence, the nation is suffering. The people do not need you to decide the future of their country.
It’s cruel, but maybe there is some truth in it. As for and speaking just for me, an ole guy now just recently turned 70 I would still like to call her Miss President some day. She will be a Great One. But with the Voters of America of the 57 States that voted the ape in that is now in the White House, we love you too much Miss Sarah, just too much to see you hurt.
God, the next two years are going to be tiresome.
Yes, too much is at stake for rhetoric as jejune as Mr. Shaw’s. Whatever Sarah Palin’s qualifications for the presidency, she, having entered the fray and gathered a base, deserves reasoned inquiries regarding her readiness to fulfill the duties of the office. Caterwauling like Shaw’s can only serve to solidify her base and bolster its loyalty. If therefore they insist on voting for Palin just because of the affront, Mr. Shaw will have contributed to the disaster he indicates he wishes to avoid.
Much as I like Palin, I know she can’t win. However, she could motivate the Tea Party members to support a leading Republican candidate and enable that person to win the presidency. Once that person becomes president, and if Palin still wants to stay in government, she could certainly be given a major cabinet post (such as Secretary of Energy, which she would be great at). There are way too many reasons for her NOT to run (with a boatload of money being one of the major reasons and one not to be ignored), and way too many reasons that her influence could be used to help elect a strong Republican candidate.
And if Palin really wanted to screw with the Democrats, if she really wanted to mess with their minds, if she really wanted all of the people at MSNBC to commit mass suicide, she would support Jeb Bush for president. Could you imagine what would happen to the far left if ANOTHER Bush ended up in the White House? It would be too delicious to imagine. Her greatest weapon for getting a boatload of revenge against Tina Fey, Alec Baldwin, all of Hollywood, not to mention Pelosi and Reid, would be to put Jeb Bush into the White House. Oh Sarah, please do it. Do it for me. Do it for all of us who hate them so.
America is TIRED of the Bushes, the Clintons and the Kennedys. It is time for humble middle class folks and WOMEN to make it to the White House!
Jeb Bush has no chances of beating Obama. Obama already defeated Bush in 2008.
The GOP needs a historic candidate to bring down the first black president: Sarah Palin.
“Obama already defeated Bush in 2008.”
Must have missed this. On what temporal plane were you residing when this happened??
Obama has not stopped campaigning against Bush to this day. What planet are you from?
Just because Obama has continued to campaign incessantly against George Bush, does not mean he has ever “defeated” him. This was in response as to why Jeb Bush should never run from the previous poster.
Maybe we’re all suffering from sarcasm overload. Watching what Obama is doing to the US will do that to you. Almosr makes me want to run up to him and punch him in the mouth.
Oooops.
great column Jazz. I would add that many of us felt Sarah was a drag on the McCain 2008 campaign.
Dude, McCain was a drag on the McCain’08 campaign.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. McCain was THE DRAG! McCain-Feingold showed disrespect for the First Amendment. McCain-Kennedy, at thousands of pages again, showed disrespect for one of the only things the Feds are DIRECTED to handle and proved, again, the elites wanted to work in the dark by devising papers that were incomprehensible. McCain-Palin 2008 showed he could step out of the elties for once. Palin has as good a chance as Obama but without the media’s support. The lamestream media may sacrifice itself trying to keep her out. Good riddance!
Are you insane? Sarah Palin is the only thing that breathed any life at all into that rehash of Dole/Kemp ’96.
yes
That’s it? That’s all you got? I would really like to know why conservatives are against Sarah Palin. I think if you leave the superficial digs at the door you will see that it is FAIR to at least hear her out IF she decides to run. I’ll even put aside the fact that I instinctively like her. Let’s just HEAR HER OUT.
This Conservative will support Sarah along with Rubio or West if either choose to run. We could go for a twofer, throw in Bachman, I give her points for persistence, I got about a thousand phone calls from her asking for money and I am in Texas. Kinda got old and irritating.
I am no fan of Sarah Palin either, but this rant of envy and jealousy will do nothing but push her and her supporters more into “Run, Sarah,run!!” territory.
I would think it more productive to point out that she lacks the depth (as of yet) to do the job. That “mama grizzley” stuff is just silly, and I doubt it scares any of the many enemies of our country.
The”o” is no better, and in fact probably worse, but with the help of the MSM and stupid blind fools, he was elected. You can see how that is working out. Those of us on the Right don’t need to push our version of him. We need a real statesman/woman. and so far , I don’t see anyone out there to qualify. . .
I have no opinion whether SP should run, but your article sounds spiteful and self-contradictory. In the history courses you could find successful presidents who were / did worse.
Reposting my response to this Ruling Class pundit with a dash of added flavor for this Ruling Class pundit to savor):
Why are you so fearful of free-market competition?
Pre-selecting the winners and the losers is what the Ruling Class on both sides of the aisle do to maintain their place of power they consider is their entitlement.
Much like the Union Thugs ruling Government Motors or Princess Murkowski- adored daughter of Ruling Class tyrants- it is no wonder the reason why you, Rove, Krauthammer along with the multitude of endless Ruling Class whiners are so easily threaten by free-market competition.
Jazz Shaw, you know that you and your “30% highly educated whites”(Ruling Class idjet George Will’s overtly racist, bigoted phrase) are losers in this game called life.
Jazz promised us the top five reasons why Palin should not seek the presidency, and I see only two. I demand my money back, Pajamas Media.
Can’t fault this article.
But Sarah should run just to keep the Country Club Clowns that the RNC puts up on their toes.
The primary debates will be great entertainment.
I would love to see Sarah debate all the rino crowd, she would cause some serious concerns on their part. lets make it one on one, with out the msm moderator that so many love to stick in there.
The latest student in this particular school of hard knocks was former First Lady Barbara Bush, who curiously chose to suggest that Ms. Palin should “stay in Alaska.” The response, ranging from bloggers to Beck, was immediate and predictable.
What Mrs. Bush said was gratuitous, demeaning and insulting, so why is everybody surprised that she gets demeaning insults in return?
If she had said “I know Sarah has a lot of fans but she’d not my choice, I like Mitt” do you think there would have been any controversy?
For the record, Sarah is not my first choice although I’d have no problem voting for her if she were the nominee.
In fact, I’d have a lot less of a problem voting for her than I would someone with the last name of Bush.
Jennifer and Derek might be slightly better dancers
They were better dancers as were the hot blonde with the plump black kid. But regarding “haters” what would you call people who send you strange powder, make other death threats and shoot the TV when you appear?
No Republican can ever win under this scenario. No matter who we nominate, the media and the Left (but I repeat myself) will see to it that they are perceived as stupid and/or evil.
You said recently that you experienced things during the campaign that changed your mind on the issue of media bias, persuading you that it’s absolutely true. I’m dying to hear the details of your come-to-Jesus moment. Now that you’ve seen it first hand, can you at least understand how people become defensive when they see the MainScream Media flat-out lying?
Tina Fey? This is one of Jazz Shaw’s reasons why Jazz Shaw fears competitive campaign races?
Jazz, darling, why do you give everyone the impression that you laughed in glee like all your KWEEL DUDES laughed when Sandra Bernhart ‘joked’ on stage “If Sarah Palin steps one foot inside Manahttan I’ll send my black brothers to rape her”
Sadly darling, you are not a RINO you are a Ruling CLass LOSER DUDE.
I agree. I’ve stated in previous comments that at most she should be running as a vice presidential candidate again with someone like Bobby Jindal or maybe LT.Col West in Front. But whoever it is absolutely must go over their previous life situations with a very fine toothed comb to make sure that nothing can come to light that will throw the whole thing away. McCain was a loser from the get go and the only reason he got as far as he did was because the powers that were in the GOP put him there. They are as blind as can be when it comes to political reality. Their failure to back candidates that the people had chosen resulted in several of them losing. As for second chances, that isn’t always true. Nixon came back from a losing campaign and won the presidency. Brown came back (boo hiss) to the governorship of CA and Ronald Reagan came back from losing, to win after all. So it can be done.
Jindal or West could be her Veep.
Mr. Shaw:
“Stick With the Benjamins, Sarah
There are five reasons why Sarah Palin shouldn’t run for president, including the fact that she doesn’t have a chance of winning.”
Still flogging the same anti-Palin line, eh, Mr. Shaw?
Let’s see…almost two years ago, you were singing the same tune:
“Memo to Governor Palin: Stay in Alaska
Friday, November 7th, 2008 – by Jazz Shaw
This election has created too much baggage for her to survive another national race.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/memo-to-governor-palin-stay-in-alaska/
Your opening para from THAT November:
“Having been plucked from the relative obscurity of Alaskan politics, Sarah Palin rode a madcap roller-coaster ride onto the national stage, unaware that her ticket had been stamped with a twelve-week expiration date.”
The last commenter on that thread, nailed it perfectly:
“268. Brian Richard Allen
This piece is straight from the “Democrats’” talking points.
It is, that is, absolute crap.”
And Bother B.R.A. was proven right, because two years later, if anything, Sarah Plain is bigger and bolder, while John McCain is the guy who once…
Not to be deterred, you went on about 6 months later to show where your preferences lay:
“Why Meghan McCain Is Right
Tuesday, April 21st, 2009 – by Jazz Shaw
This young lady bravely speaks to a younger generation of conservatives.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/why-megan-mccain-is-right/
Uh-huh…well, whatever her message is, Young Ms. McCain is held by most of the party as being somewhere between a pest and a joke; her recent attacks on Palin doing absolutely nothing but further diminishing whatever status the daughter of a failed Presidential candidate might have. She comes across frankly as a Lisa Murkowski “Daddy’s Little Princess”, still in the bloom of her youth.
But I guess Meghan will always have you, eh?
On July 4th of 2009, just when Obama’s Rasmussen approval ratings first dipped below %50 coincidentally, you rather snidely offered the eulogy at Sarah Palin’s political “funeral”:
“Palin Commits Political Suicide
Saturday, July 4th, 2009 – by Jazz Shaw
Thanks for the show, Sarah.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/palin-commits-political-suicide/
Only it seems that your announcement of Palin’s passing was a wee bit premature, wasn’t it?
And I understand that it must be deeply embarrassing for you to have her still walking around, winking and “you betcha”-ing and to be frank about it, looking pretty damned good for a zombie.
You don’t like the woman, Mr. Shaw…we get it.
But so far, and this is over two years now,you’ve been dead wrong about her and her political viability. I think your personal feelings have been clouding what is plainly in front of your face.
This is a groundswell…do YOU get it?
So, either Palin, (if she chooses to run), is going to be our next nominee, and if she is, then she’s going to have to face the Alleged Hawaiian,(if HE decides to seek another term), in the general.
Now, would, if all these factors converge to make it so, choose 4 more years of Barack Obama and his mis-Odministration, or would you give a gal a chance?
You have been relentlessly negative toward Palin, so I’m not holding my breath, and with you, (along with Rick Moran),being the other drummer-boy
for the “The GOP has to distance itself from conservatives and move to the Center if it ever wants to win another national election” meme hereabouts, it leads me to wonder if you, in your insistence on being so wrong for so long, are at all honest with yourself about where your true alleigance lies.
My dear Bilgeman,
You’ve got writing talent and researching/thinking ability to go along with it. PajamasMedia needs to scoop you up as a regular commentator or National Review, The Weekly Standard, or one of the other professional comment media outlets.
Why are they all in lame land as relates to Sarah Palin? Both NR and TWS recently ran anti-Palin pieces, one done so professionally that, Palin was urged to consider becoming Oprah. Now that’s serious commentary, no? The other by the TWS light comedy writer, who found it hard to find the light comedy sweet spot. It always is if you despise the person you are writing about.
Where are the NR or TWS Bilgemans who can turn a comedic phrase as well as think and chew gum at the same time? One can dream.
Please keep writing.
Aw, shucks…thanks.
One of the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls that they are keeoing mum about is that there was at least one extra Beatitude in the Sermon on the Mount that was edited out at Nicaea, (rather undrestandable, since the world wide web had about 1500 years before Algore would invent it), is went:
“Blessed are the literate and contumacious, for they shall have internet comment boards for their Kingdom”.
You asked:
“Why are they all in lame land as relates to Sarah Palin? ”
I reckon that they are like die-hard Gerald Ford partisans at the ’76 convention, (yes, children…there WERE such fantastical critters as “Ford partisans” once upon a time. The ’70′s were a very STRANGE period…”this is your nation on drugs”, etcetera), who saw the coming of the Age of Reagan, and as he was the inheritor of Goldwaterism, they reacted like Damien being dragged into Church.
They seem to inhabit the GOP equivalent of the Moonbat Sweat-Lodge frankly in that they truly believe that “Palin is unelectable” because they keep telling each other that “Palin is unelectable”. This has gone on so long and so loud that the programming of the RINO Hive Mind has set in, and now no further external input isn’t necessary…they tell THEMSELVES that “Palin is unelectable”, never asking “WHY, specifically, it is that ‘Palin is unelectable’?”
(Notice a theme running through this paragraph?)
Yes, Imperial Stormtrooper Recruits! the Jedi Mind Trick is REAL! And it works on non-moonbats, too.
“Where are the NR or TWS Bilgemans…”
Haven’t made parole yet…?
Your smartass comment , deprecating the Scriptures, is disgusting.
oh blahblahblahblahblahblahblah, get a life…
This is a groundswell…do YOU get it?
Jazz Shaw is patiently pointing out that the groundswell of which you speak is limited to the extreme right wing. Tea party and other far right types like Palin. Moderates do not. The groundswell of a few million rabid fans, while impressive, is meaningless on a national stage of over one hundred million voters.
Fot a candidate to be elected, they need to collect the most votes, period, not just the votes of the dedicated fans. In practical terms this means collecting the votes of moderate right wingers and moderate left wingers. Palin is not attractive to these voters. It’s possible that a Palin candidacy could “win” as long as you’re defining “win” as collecting no-confidence votes against the DNC when she’s the opposition (lesser of evils) much like some of the tea party candidate “wins” of the mid-terms.
The mid-term election, as has been discussed on these pages, was not a vote of support for the tea party in any meaningful fashion. It was a vote of no confidence for the democrats. It’s a “win” of lesser evils, not an endorsement of ideals, ideas, or better qualifications.
The tea party “groundswell” was, in the only important measure of viability, a complete non-starter vis a vis McDonnell. A republican could have won the contest there given the voter disgust with the democrats. For that matter I’m pretty sure an inanimate object could have collected the needed votes. But no, the tea party types had to intervene and insert the most worthless candidate possible, the one guaranteed to alienate the moderate majority. It was an exercise in pointlessly snatching defeat from the jaws of certain, almost guaranteed victory. Palin groundswell is a national version of McDonnell groundswell. Generally speaking, outside of luck or even worse opposition candidates, a candidate who is worshipped by an extreme 10% isn’t electable if the other 90% is unimpressed.
Do YOU get it?
I doubt you do.
Hmm. 80% of Republicans are impressed enough to have a favorable view of Palin according to a poll this month by Gallup. Palin’s and Obama’s negative ratings are basically a statistical tie.
This is before any campaigning by Palin for the presidency.
Also before a two year continuance of President Obama’s hope and change policies. Obama is already within striking range of Jimmy Carter’s negatives when another non-electable (way too old, way too conservative, kinda dumb from the pundits’ perspective) somehow got elected by a landslide.
Where does your 10% figure come from? Maybe the same place as your other points?
I lot of your advice, Mr. Shaw, is pragmatic: Palin, stick with the money you know you can gain, and not with the questionable success in the political arena.
OK.
But there is one specific point, key to your final advice, that I dissent from: “President Obama['s] …personal popularity and the power of incumbency [will] still make him a formidable opponent.”
Politics is all about timing. For example, had McCain defeated Bush in 2000, he might have gone on to be a good president. Chinese thought describes the power of communal opinion as the “Mandate of Heaven.” A leader succeeds so long as he keeps it; he fails when he loses it.
Obama has already lost the Mandate of Heaven. The messianic aura has long ago dissipated. Given what we know by now of his character and ideology, I do not see any imaginable scenario where he will get the Mandate or messianic aura back. He will stick to his agenda, refuse to work with the Republican majority in the House, response to international crises with fecklessness, etc. Americans will get tired of his leftist America-is-no-longer-special routine, and his elitism.
Depending on the trajectory of the next 12 months, Palin *may* be the perfect answer to American disenchantment with Obama. (Please notice I am not addressing whether she can solve the problems. I am only addressing her electibility.)
One disagreement with ya, mccain has never had it, his money kept him in and he has done more to damage the R’s that probably any single other R. He is an arrogant jerk who does not have a clue.
Fear is strong in this one.
So [is] he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God. Luke 12:21
Pay no heed to this Jazz Shaw turkey, Sarah, nor any of the other uglies and ungodlies who denounce you. Run for President.
I really like Sarah Palin I would be happy to have her as a neighbor, as a friend or as a member of my church. I believe she is real and principled. I do not want her as our President.
The office of President requires executive presence. It has been called many things – most recently gravitas. It is the ability to carry the mantle of the office with dignity, confidence, eloquence, principled consistency and (most of all) competence.
Obama has the first 3 of these traits. He is lacking the last two. Bush had 4 – lacking eloquence.
For the person who next occupies the oval office, there will be no more kicking the problems down the road. They are to real and imminent. That individual will need all the gravitas they can get and it still may not be enough.
I can’t Obama only one of those traits, that would be confidence, as in ‘confidence man’.
Sounds like you think highly of obama. He is actually a buffon and not to bright.
I can give a better speech and I don’t need a teleprompter to do it with.
1-Dignity – bowing to kings?
2-Confidence – “I won”
3-Eloquence – good speech writer.
4-Principled consistency – determined to reduce the ability of the United States to be a superpower or colonial power.
5-Competence – He has forced Progressive socialism upon us more than anyone in the past. His picks for czars and cabinet members are destroying the fabric of the country through regulation that could not make it through Congress.
In my book, that is # 2, 4,& 5 that he does meet.
Sarah Palin is very well positioned to make a run at the Presidency.
She is well known, has large base of support, will be able to raise
large amounts of cash, is really attractive and gives a great stump
speech. Though her stay as Governor of Alaska was short lived, her
track record while in office was impressive. Nobody was more
influential in helping Republicans get elected in the recent elections
than Palin – she helped dozens of Tea Party candidates win their races
(the ‘clunkers’ certainly didn’t lose because of Palin). She was one
of the first of the mainstream Republicans to give their full support
to the Tea Party insurgents which showed she is tougher and smarter than
the bulk of the other Republican pretenders (i’ll bet the author
supports the powerhouse known as Romney).
Obama is eminently beatable in 2012. He has been an embarrassment to
himself and the country – even his supporters seem to know it. Obama’s
only advantage is his incumbency, which certainly gives him a chance.
But what does Obama have to run on? Hope and change? Everyone now
knows that’s a crock. He thoroughly misrepresented himself in his
last campaign – he’s no centrist, uniter or fiscally responsible
adminstrator. Obama will have to now run on what he really is – a
hard core left wing Democrat party hack who is barely competent. It won’t
be easy.
Against this backdrop, Palin doesn’t have to be the smartest person
in the country – she just has to be smarter than Obama, which she is.
Most people who ‘dislike’ Palin have based their opinions on the
unbelievably hateful and distorted reporting by our dying liberal
press. During a long campaign, she will have a great opportunity
to dispel these notions. Palin will have an easier time winning
converts than Obama will have defending his sorry record – trillions
of dollars in new debt, a disastrous health care plan that will be
unravelling, a totally discredited foreign policy based on appeasement,
etc. etc.
I’m not predicting a Palin Presidency; it’s way too early for that.
I’m not even sure I would vote for her in the primaries, though I
have seen enough of Palin to at least keep an open mind (unlike the
author). But she is tough enough to make Obama defend every square
inch of his Presidency. If Palin gets the nomination she has a great
chance to win.
Sidenote to Barbra Bush – the country might be better off today if
you had also advised your husband and son to just stay in Texas.
Palin will not run, but she will have a fun time toying with the State-run media over whether or not she will.
However, whoever gets the nomination will need her support, which Romney will not get.
My personal guess is that if Jindal runs, he will get the nomination. Palin like him, and Chris Christie likes him. That’s a powerful 1-2 combination.
Yes, and wouldn’t it be great for Pres. Jindal to nominate Chris Christie as Secretary of Labor, Sarah Palin as Secretary of Energy, John Bolton as Secretary of State, and David Petraeus as Secretary of Defense. Now that’s change you can believe in.
I like Jindal, but he isn’t ready yet, and comes across like a nerd. Christie is a moderate at best and has no business stepping outside of NJ.
Right now, Sarah is the leader of the pack. Any challengers that hope to convince her not to run or hope to defeat her must have the following:
Common Sense
Convictions
Courage
Charisma
Also, they will need Tea Party support. Sarah has all of these.
If Rick Perry was to run, I could see her endorsing Mr. Perry.
However, it appears we are gonna get 1980 all over again, so Sarah will probably run and probably defeat Obama, Carter II.
Jazz is just another elitist who is not conservative and is afraid of a campaign and a primary where WE THE PEOPLE decide.
Mr Shaw. Thank you for the article. When the holiday is over I was wondering if you can write an article giving five reasons why Sarah Palin shouldn’t run for President.
Nice.
Thanks Sapwolf. I hope your female. Want to marry a wimp?
Are you the writer that moved in next door to her in order to do a hit piece? Is this the best you can do? Sarah is not afraid to fight, who is Tina Fey anyway and I think she could win. She has my vote because she is the one who can put them all in jail. All the cheaters starting with Timothy Geitner.
Tiny Fey is his cousin
or…he’s tina fey…
Sarah Palin is a political phenomena, and serious people are trying very hard to assess her possible contribution to American history. This trite five cents does not help. Her track record in setting Alaskan energy policy and her white paper on this subject is far superior to anything oozing out of Washington D.C. She has shown personal courage in deciding to birth and raise a disabled child, in the face of pure evil attacks from snide opponents. She has shown decision making guts in establishing herself as a tea party political power. She has made a few bone head mistakes, but compared to Joe Biden……..
Her central problem is us. Does she go the Dancing with the Stars, or yucking with Jon Stewart as the road to the White House? This article falls in that scheme. Or does she appeal to adults who worry about the future survival of this nation?
Several years ago, Tom Delay, the Hammer, was a feared national power, then amazing dancer on TV, but today is a convicted felon. Let the calendar roll for Gov. Palin. We will observe. If North Korea detonates an Atomic bomb over Anchorage, Jon Steward’s influence on some voters may lose its power. Cinders do not vote.
J. Shaw should grow up.
Why would North Korea detonate a bomb over Alaska. They are our allies.
You’re right, they’ll probably ignite it in one of the other 57 states of the great Muslim nation of the US. Glass houses…..
What’s your point? They’re both capable of innocent misstatements? They’re both equally stupid? Or is equality not in your belief system?
and …at least she corrected her grammatical mistake. I don’t think he knows he made a msitake.
First, it wasn’t a grammatical mistake. It was a factual mistake. Second, she didn’t correct it, the interviewer did. (Just one more thing this pathological liar lied about.)
Not My Sensei, Obama’s “57 states” was a far more serious gaffe, and a factual gaffe, than North Korea, when Palin had seconds before correctly identified South Korea as my ally. (I can’t say our ally, yours and mine, because it is far from clear whose side you are on.) Your statement is just goofy.
Complete and utter bullshit, Flintstone. Obama is a Constitutional lawyer who obviously misspoke. Palin is a pageant contestant who thins Africa is a country. It’s clear that Palin doesn’t have a grasp of even rudimentary geo politics. That’s why she is terrified of speaking to anyone but Sean Hannity. There you go. Facts is facts.
“That’s why she is terrified of speaking to anyone but Sean Hannity.”
You shouldn’t bring up the subject of terrified, Urine Senei. Everbody knows you moonbats are terrified by, and therefore obsessed with, Sarah.
What a big piece of show of elitism and sexism! What are you? A Republican? I don’t think so. How you dare to advice the first ever Republican woman with a real shot a becoming president to stay with the “Benjamin’s”. Sarah Palin has done more for the GOP and the nation in 24 months than Romney or Gingrich in 20 years.
No chances of winning?? That is laughable. Do you really think a 46 years old woman with no political title, who “quit” her governor seat, that has 5 kids, but that makes the whole political universe tremble every time she posts an entry on Facebook has “no chance of winning”? Do you really think a woman that makes a governor candidate in the fourth place in primaries with no chances or hope to win the race and even become the first woman and a non White person governor of a state that started the secession “no chances of winning”? What are you smoking??
Who are you trying to help with your article? Mitt Romney? The flip flopper one term governor, father of the socialist and universal health care program that bankrupted Massachusetts?
Or maybe is Mike Huckabee, the Evangelical pastor who used his great judgment pardoning criminals that later killed innocent people.
Or maybe Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House responsible for the Scozzofava disaster?
Or is maybe Jeb Bush, the spoiled chubby guy with the charisma of a mouse in kittens party.
Tina Fey was not the reason the McCain/Palin ticket lost, it was the economy meltdown. Do you ever remember that 16 September 2008?? Up until that point McCain and Palin were on their path to victory.
Do you really think that if Palin was not the VP nominee McCain would have won all those 22 states and have a decent showing under the circumstances, even much better than Walter Mondale showing in 1984?
Barbara Bush just want another Bush in the White House and Sarah Palin is the only person that can prevent that. Barbara Bush knows that Sarah Palin is the only potential candidate that can make en routes with minorities, the youth, women , male and HISTORIC” voters in 2012 preventing Jeb from become president in 2016. Can’t you see that??
You sound like the elitists that in 1979 said second class actor and cowboy warmonger Reagan had no chances of winning. And even after Reagan lost the Iowa caucus were predicting Reagan could not even win the nomination.
You are the one who needs to stay with the minor leagues, run for office or something. Help the people of your town or your county. Make a difference and stop spreading those ridiculous and sexist remarks about a woman that could become America’s first female president.
Let her run if she wants to. What are you scared of??
How degrading you are, typical MSM comments,
You belong on Huffington, not on PJM.
I think it’s time to get off the e-mail distribution of PJM. Foolish, lazy hit pieces like this every now and then just drive me away.
I thought PJM was a conservative/libertarian outfit but I’m finding it is more of an elitist east coast thing.
Time to hit ‘unsubscribe’.
Goodbye. (note, if anybody links over here I’ll come on something interesting but I can’t waste my life reading such drivel from the Manhattan beta-boys anymore)
say hi to all the haters. hi haters. name dropping Barbara Bush to beat down another women. don’t the demos have a woman with a voice?
better than 50% disapproval rate? what is our incumbents disapproval rate?
Jazz
Thanks for the somewhat funny, yet pithy summary. I have been scratching my head about her for some time. But I really couldn’t put my finger on the problem. But you nailed it: she’s a nice lady, that has views I am comfortable with, she’s real, she’s successful, and there is no good reason to screw it up for the sake of running for President. After all, Al Gore has made out pretty well by loosing, and 0bama probably killed his guaranteed-for-life charmed life by winning.
Way way condescending. Now run along and vote for a moderate.
I’m from Connecticut originally, so I know that the dope there isn’t powerful enough to convince anyone to write this sentence; it’s got to be brain damage from some other cause. Barry Dunham will likely be himself thrown under the bus by his puppeteers, who will then bring forward the New Obama — perhaps a wise Latina with a couple of terms as county commissioner — for the Petulant Left to get moist and tingly over.
This is the sentence that got my attention too…the L-word I would associate with Obama is not likable but lucky. Demographically lucky. Lucky that neither parent was alive to call him on his bu||sh!t, like describing how they met the first time at the Selma March (when he was four). Lucky that the media refused to vet him, actively engaged in a conspiracy to kill legitimate stories and attacked his opponents.
Maybe I’m the only one but I continue to be perplexed by so many people calling Obama likable. Mr. Shaw, here’s hoping your next article will be offering clues to this puzzle.
I agree that Palin can’t win as a presidential candidate. I think she has found her niche, a thorn in the side of the GOP when they wander over to the liberal side of the reservation. There she can have a big influence. I disagree with your comment about Barbara Bush trying to insult Palin. She was. And “Jeb for president” was the motivation. The problem for Jeb is his last name. We’ve had 2 Bush presidents already and neither has exactly wowed fiscal conservatives.
While some of her recent statements cause me to ever-so-slightly wonder, I am still of a mind that Sarah Palin has deliberately set herself out to be a ‘stalking horse’, choosing to convince everyone and their dog that she is in fact running, only to opt out at the last possible moment.
Not only does this serve her well personally, but, in what I honestly think is more important to her, it serves her political vision even more. In doing this, she continues to drive her (almost entirely liberal) enemies completely and utterly into driveling, bark-at-the-moon madness, while she pretty much sits back and chuckles.
(Exibit A, from just 24 hours ago.)
And, as we all have noted, these people simply cannot, will not, for their lives and souls, control themselves and look rational and reasonable when it comes to Sarah Palin. It is now an established physical impossibilty. She drives them bash-themselves-on-rocks-madness, and will until the end of time, to the jolly amusement of us all.
So she leads the opposition into the looney bin like a pied piper, while the conservative movement quietly gets it act together for 2012 somewhere else. (of course, the latter depends on a lot of people who are not Sarah Palin, she is just clearing the media battlespace, and then counting on the others to do their part.)
Just a supposition, of course, but I kinda hope it is true, as I have my concerns about a Palin candidacy, and I even wonder if she would be near as happy doing it as she appears to be right now (that latter fact being something that galls her enemies and endears her to her friends no end.)
Sarah Palin has only way to go: to run for the presidency. She can’t afford being called an opportunist misleading person. Millions and millions of Americans have their faith in her and her convictions. Millions of Americans share her values and would be disappointed if she did not run. The GOP might suffer a big defeat if a boring white male gets the nomination and runs against the first black president. Sarah can’t afford being the reason of women dreams of a Woman US president gone to past for 2 more generations.
SHE HAS TO RUN.
Carmelo is correct.
Look, there is no other GOP candidates who have the guts to fight like she does.
The worst thing that could happen is if we run a wishy-washy T-Paw or slimeball Romney against Obama. If we do, we get low turnout on our side, and in the event we win, we are then STUCK with the cajoneless wonder in the White House. That will NOT turn back the Progs.
no, she doesn’t “HAVE” to run.
And the “millions and millions” who “love” her probably add up to about 40% of the country. She runs, Obama wins. She CANNOT win without getting the centrists and indies on board, and she is losing them. You know why?
Because of all you people who “love” her so much that you’re sickening about it, and because you seem insecure as hell about her when you allow no criticism.
Palin and her fans in ’12 is Obama and his fans in ’08, only without the Greek columns.
Sarah Palin is beloved of the base because she’s perceived as one of them: A moose-hunting straight-talking conservative woman from the last American frontier. She’s straight out of any Western TV show or Annie Oakley movie.
The only other potential candidate who can appeal to that group is Governor Daniels of Indiana. Even Huckabee couldn’t, because he’s perceived as insufficiently conservative on economic issues.
2012 will bring the ultimate culture clash: The Annie Oakleys (whose proxy is Palin) vs. the Jon Stewarts (whose proxy is Obama). The frontierswoman vs. the hip urban sophisticate.
Palin is the anti-Obama in more ways than any other GOP prospect.
She needs to run because we need the clash of the opposing philosophies, and no other Republican wants to bravely step forward and fight like Sarah because they are mostly cowards.
Sarah is gonna run because she has done more than any other Republican to fight Obama and put Republicans in office. She has the right instincts, the leadership, the experience, and she is as American as any woman in the USA.
What she provides is what the country needs. It will be Reagan/Carter all over again in 2012.
By the way, READ her books and study her before making foolish columns like this.
If Sarah Palin is such a non-factor then why does she attract so much critical attention? I love it how her credentialed critics like to say she lacks the credentials to hold high office. This sort of criticism strikes me as arrogant and uneducated. It reminds me of the lame criticisms of Reagan.
Mr. Shaw,
After getting halfway through your first point, I basically quit reading the article. “The federal government has, at best, only a limited ability to force the nation’s economic engine into either higher or lower gears, and even then only over long periods of time.”
If you truly think that, then you have no concept of history.
The federal government can smother the fire of free enterprise or set it ablaze through it’s taxation. Kennedy saw it, Reagan saw it, Bush saw it and when they (the federal government of “limited ability”) cut the tax rate, the WHOLE COUNTRY prospered. History has shown this repeatedly.
“Unless the country undergoes an amazing recovery above and beyond the most sunny…………”
Are you really as stupid as Nancy Pelosi? You see no connection between national policy and the state of the nation. Obama is unlucky the economy is bad now and Clinton was lucky the economy was good. Are you really that stupid?
We are in FDR’s fifth term, demonize business, expand government and watch the depression deepen.
So, which RINO do you suggest run in the Rethug party? Maybe Newt, Nit, or maybe the Huckster?
The last couple RINO’s almost destroyed the conservative movement.
As for not winning, a dog could beat Obama in the 2012 election. The LSM cannot spin the numbers all they want, Obama is at 30-39% approval rating right now. What, are we going to believe the Democrat pollsters on his rating?
And if NO ONE can understand this, the economy is NOT improving. With the latest QE, your dollar is going to become 50% of what it was when NoBama was elected.
Pick me a true Constitutional and conservative candidate. Name one.
Otherwise your self fulfilling dogma will be just that. And if people pick a RINO, I will purposefully help NoBama win in NoVember 2012. A RINO will do the same thing for the movement as GWB did for us, getting the Dems and NoBama in power.
Beware, Mr. Shaw, delusion of grandeur, where you start to believe your own internal rantings. It invariably leads to work product like this article. We wouldn’t want anyone to assume this is well reasoned advice to Mrs. Palin.
Really.
I’m stepping UP tonight over this column and watching Parker/Spitzer.
As a pro-choice Palinista, I came to this article to see what strong, serious arguments you had to offer against Sarah’s running. What I see is that you’ve misread Sarah completely — there was no irony whatsoever to your title (“Stick with the Benjamins”). I say Run Sarah, Run! I’ll be there to convince other fis-con so-libs to trust in your character, your leadership, and your patriotism.
Give it up. Or say something original. The patterns of Palin phobia are getting boring.
(You don’t sound very heretical to me. Sounds more like you’ve found your way back to that northeastern RINO fold. But enjoy the conceit.)
C’mon, this is really Maureen Dowd writing under a pseudonym isn’t it? Out with it, Sweetie; womyn-up, now. No one but an embittered old hag strung out on hormone replacement would pen such prattle.
I don’t think Palin should run, either, but I respect the lady enough not to fling puerile dung at her to make the point. Didn’t you pretty much prove who the real visceral haters are? Look in the mirror.
She is gonna end up HAVING TO RUN because the GOP men a wussies who don’t fight and are too afraid of the LSM.
Sarah will defeat Obama as long as everybody pitches in money, time, energy to ‘git’er done’. Jazz won’t because he is just talk and snark.
“git’er done”?
No. I won’t be contributing to that, sorry.
i always thought that a journalist’s writing revealed more about them than their subject of interest. This article proves the point.
I think the reason people reacted poorly to the First Lady’s comments about Palin staying in Alaska is because she presented no reasoned discourse but instead a dismissive and snide comment from a woman who was a wife to a success story and not the success story. As such, no one is crying about attacking anyone who disagrees with Palin since nothing was presented to disagree with, just an attack. Even had the First Lady presented such a discourse, why listen to Giselle Bundchen’s ideas on how often New England should run the ball out of a West Coast formation?
Yeah, Rubio was uneletcable, he had no chance in hell to take the Florida seat, he was too extreme, he should leave the field to the popular governor Charlie Crist, the Republican establishment annointed.
Btw, one of those who won the primaries, not the one chosen by the electability-panels or the party annointed would be our next president. If a Republican who couldn’t beat Sarah, the dumbmest person on the planet (from what I’ve read), how could he/she win the election?
I beg to differ.
In 2008 McCain/Palin lost to Obama/Biden because Obama had his past erased by a compliant media and McCain was a dud.
He will not have that luxury the next election.
Palin won’t be afraid to personally call out Obama on all his broken promises, his lies and all his failures which are now a record he cannot erase.
Palin has learned how to go right around the media and she will only get better as time goes on.
She could whoop his butt.
The footnote bio of the author says he is a “former RINO” — what do you mean “former”? It is hard to take an article like this seriously when the tone is so snide. That kind of RINO condescension is exactly what the Tea Party conservatives detest about the political elites who call themselves Republicans. The Republican elites better get over their sense of political superiority pretty quickly, or they will (1) be responsible for the demise of the Republican party and (2) miss what is probably the biggest Republican boat to dock in America since the days of Ronald Reagan. The Republican elites have a lot to offer. It is time that they made the offer.
Sarah took a blow that knocked out Dan Qualye. She came back in fighting form and can get Obama’s panties in a knot with a simple Facebook post.
Well we nominated McCain because we thought that he woudln’t get criticized in the general. The media turned on him and in order to escape media criticism he decided on a hands-off campaign strategy which threw the election to Obama.
Sarah is not like that. She can take a punch and hit back even harder. She wants to win and is emotionally capable of scoring damaging punches on Obama.
I get it, Mr Shaw: I am an uneducated dolt for thinking that Mrs Palin is not only electable but is likely to be a great president, and for believing that she would be far, far superior to the allegedly intelligent, supposedly intellectual, but evidently idiotic incumbent who desultorily works (for want of a better word) towards his desired status of being, for the rest of his life, a famous Precedent.
Dear editors, may we finally see an end to this sort of inanity? Hoi Polloi is Ancient Greek for “the many”: to write “the hoi polloi” is to say “the the many.” Mr Shaw knows this, of course; he’s just reinforcing the point that he is so much smarter than we, unthinking polloi.
You’ve failed to observe one modern point of etiquette, though, Mr Shaw: these days, before writing or saying something egregiously offensive, it’s conventional to preface such sneers with “No offence, but …”.
What’s the rush?
Governor Palin is still young and full of energy. She can spend the next six years building her organization, getting high level briefings on all the “must knows” a US President needs, attending to her family and building the financial foundation for a successful bid in 2016.
If, as one poster suggested, she keeps the TEA party movement revved up and acts as kingmaker in 2012 then gets a cabinet level seat, she could be a great contender in 2020 with a sterling resume.
Media and “Progressive” attacks on Governor Palin will also have lost most of their effect by 2012, even the most ardent Palin haters will have to deal with an awesome amount of cognitive dissonance trying to make the facts fit the “narrative”. They simply will sound incoherent and deranged (far more so than even today), and far less able to sway the severely normal voters who don’t follow politics that closely.
Governor Palin will be an admirable candidate in time, go out there and do it right. I too look forward to the day I can say President Palin
The rush is that ship is headed full speed toward the iceberg and we need an adult at the helm as soon as possible.
Tough question. Boils down to what is at stake and when. I recommend Palin and repealing whatever amendment to the Constitution limits a President to two terms.
It’s a snarky article, but the conclusion is correct, and Sarah will take the advise.
There are simply too many powerful forces arrayed against her for her to win. It doesn’t matter that there are plenty of people 1000% behind her, they only get one vote apiece. And there are more that hate her than love her. Sorry to say it. It’s just the plain truth.
But put snark aside and think deeply about this, because there is a point to be made that is deadly serious.
Our country has never been in more danger than it is right now, this very moment. The man in the White House and the puppeteers behind him aren’t playing for funsies. They seriously intend to destroy this great country and replace it with something else…..and that wouldn’t work out well for you or me.
So our most important mission is to defeat him. That’s the game. Right now, it’s the whole game. No muligans will be allowed. If Obama has the White House for another term, there will be ObamaCare, some form of Crap and Tax, some form of Amnesty, and much much more. Again, it’s serious stuff.
Now for many of you, there is no love like Sarah love. I’ve got a bit of a case myself. But I’m not blind either, and you shouldn’t be. Love her, support her with all your might, but please, please don’t put everything behind that and get disenchanted when she withdraws or loses the primary. You know, there probably was a better general than George Washington; there probably were better field commanders than Eisenhauer, there probably were better policy people than Reagen….but we have to have a winner, not a symbol in 2012. There we be plenty of other times for Sarah to try again if we win in 2012. There will be no time for her after 2012 if we lose.
Very nicely said. Sarah should be defended but the focus has to be on ousting Obama. If the House passes bills that the public supports but Obama and Senate dems oppose, it will be a landslide for whoever runs against Obama in 2012.
I think the tone of the article, the snide remarks,is something we are tired of. It’s very SNL, unworthy of PJM, and all conservatives. Conservatives need to learn to speak up for themselves, talk back, grow a pair, what ever it takes.
obama and his friends are on the verge of destroying our country, on purpose. We still have a chance, but we need to pull together and take a stand. There is still free will in this world.
jazz, you’re an idiot. PJM, shame on you for dips like this. If this is what we wanted to read and get information from we would go to a liberal welfare sucking blog
Boiling it all down – the most important thing is to defeat BO. Otherwise we will have nationalized health care, non-legislated cap and trade, union domination of our economy and a steady and unstoppable slide into EU Socialism.
I have warmed up tremendously to Sarah Palin since she ran that pretty bad campaign for VP. And I would not feel at all concerned for the country should she actually win the presidency. But can she?
To all you Palinistas out there – please take this question seriously.
As a swing voter who is neither pro-Palin nor anti-Palin, I would say she could win the Presidency if she picks the right running mate. First, she needs to win the Republican primary and that may be difficult.
This has to be without a doubt the most stupid, ignorant article ever published on Pajamas Media. I can’t believe the editors even allowed it to be placed here. Among the idiotic “reasons” Shaw gives we have:
Sarah Palin shouldn’t run for president because no one should want the job. So who should be president then if no one should want it?
She’s making a lot of money. Is that a crime or a disqualification?
She can’t win. Among the dumbest of reasons, the very same thing was said about Ronald Reagan in 1980. In 2012 Donald Duck could beat Obama on the ballot. Apparently Shaw believes all lies that have been told about her in the so-called “mainstream” media and can’t be bothered to actually do some original research into her background.
She’ll be savaged by the media. So what, as if that hasn’t happened already? What Shaw doesn’t understand is that attacks on Sarah Palin by the left have nothing to do with Sarah Palin personally, the left will try to isolate and attack any principled conservative candidate who represents a threat to their agenda. If it isn’t Sarah Palin it will be someone else. I will back the candidate I see as best able to beat Obama, and I could care less what the so-called “mainstream” media has to say.
Shaw can’t manage even a single rational argument against Sarah Palin, this is nothing more than a gratuitous hate attack which you could just as easily read on the Daily Kos.
Bingo!
Don’t pick on Sarah Palin you are bad bad bad man Jazz. Bad bad bad. No pick on Sarah. All pick on Sarah bad bad bad and stupid! No pick Sarah ever ever ever! Sarah smarter Obama and dauter Brittney was robbed DWTS winnership!
No primary need be given or even election – she should win write now! Sarah more kinder Ghandi and nobler more Gorge Washinton and smrater than Eynstein!
You know, Vargas, that is the most well thought out and composed defense of Sarah Palin I have ever seen. Thank you for defending her daughter “Brittney” as well.
It pains me that I agree with much of this [snarky] article because I really wanted to remain gung-ho for SarahCuda but I can’t in all honesty want her to run for President in her current form.
I’d love to see the All American Sarah run for president after the next few Presidential elections. She needs to get the fame chasing “rock star” out of her system and then study, study, study for the incredibly huge job as leader of the free world. I think a 55 or 60 year old Sarah would make a great President but not the current reality TV Sarah. She’s lovable but we’ve already seen how far that goes when it comes to elections and cult-of-personality removing all logic and reason in an electorate. Reagan was an actor first and then went into politics, not the other way around.
Our country is in a lot of serious trouble. We don’t need a celebrity right now nor can we afford another president “Learning on the JOB”. We need a frickin’ Einstein.
Le Sigh
cann’t run as I am not a natural born american.
sorry
well neither is obama and he was voted in to destroy our country.
Bush wasn’t born in America and yet he was voted in to destroy our country.
Well said, Delia.
I think Sarah Palin only *looks* unelectable. If there was no chance of her winning, the leftist media wouldn’t continue to spend so much time putting her down. You cite opinion polls that put her below 50% in popularity, but
I will concede that, as the author points out, a new face (so long as he/she is a true conservative) might stand a better chance than Palin, for many of the reasons pointed out in the article – image really is everything in politics, and Palin’s has been unfairly dragged through the mud for over two years.
With that said, I’ll point out two things. First, I would still rather see Sarah Palin run – and lose – than a “conservative” like Mitt Romney win. Even though it would mean four more years of Obama.
Second, as much as I love Sarah Palin, I don’t believe, of all the conservatives in America, that she’s the best choice for president – merely the most visible one. Unfortunately I don’t have an alternative to offer, (I love Chris Christie’s blunt and honest manner, however he’s far too liberal in most areas for my taste), but I will definitely be doing my best to look at the 2012 Republican candidates. Hopefully it’ll be a better crop than 2008, but I admit to being pessimistic.
I accidentally deleted a portion of my comment when I separated my first paragraph into two parts:
“You cite opinion polls that put her below 50% popularity, but I’m skeptical of those polls – we’ve seen in recent days how far the media is willing to go to manufacture approval of the new TSA procedures, for instance.”
Absolutely right, Al. Gaze upon these faces. Notice any similarities? Notice any starkly contrasting mugs? See the nuns? See the children? See the middle aged ladies?
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/11/27/just-another-bomb-plotting-jihadist-yelling-allahu-akbar/
“I would still rather see Sarah Palin run – and lose – than a “conservative” like Mitt Romney win.”
When I see a comment like this, I immediately conslude that the author is a leftist, no matter what the rest of the post says.
I can live with another four years of the Messiah if we are foolish enough to run Mittens, who would be a SURE loser.
As long as the GOP controls the House and I have my guns and the Kroger across the street.
Then I think you would be you would be making a mistake, my reason-favoring friend, an ubreasonable mistake at that.
Sorry Fred, if you would vote for Obama over Romney, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
And that isn’t an ideological statement. It’s simple observation. If you think Mitt is as bad as Obama, there are only a few explanations for it, and the least insulting one is that you are a leftist parading in conservative clothes.
Mitt is about 10th on my list of favorites, but to suggest Obama would be better is a silly statement if you consider youself a conservative. Ergo, you aren’t a conservative.
Obama’s best change to be reelected is people like you.
Oh I would never vote for Obama, Pro. But I will not vote for a librul Republican either. To me that type of defeats its purpose. What I was trying to say is that it is unreasonable to charge someone with being a librul because they don’t want to vote for a librul Repub. If I expressed myself too harshly, I apologize.
“First, I would still rather see Sarah Palin run – and lose – than a “conservative” like Mitt Romney win. Even though it would mean four more years of Obama.”
This idolatrous insanity proves my point.
Four more years of Obama so you can vote your “principles”?
Four more years of Obama and America is gone.
Idiot.
Palin will run. Her ego will demand it. And she will be destroyed. And I will love every second of it. There’s a reason Bristol Palin made it as far as she did in DWTS – there are plenty of idiots willing to vote for an inexperienced thrid-rate imposter. There’s a reason she finished last in the finals – there are even more people willing to vote for someone who has experience and talent and a work ethic.
Palin will run. And she will be unmasked as the empty skirt she is.
“…there are plenty of idiots willing to vote for an inexperienced thrid-rate imposter.”
This is quite true.
By any chance, are you at all familiar with the Alleged Hawaiian who occupies the Oval Office?
“…there are even more people willing to vote for someone who has experience and talent and a work ethic. ”
I certainly hope so, which is why I hope Palin does run.
And someone please enter this in the PJM Commentariat Official Logbook:
Your Sensei and I are in agreement about SOMETHING.
(Someone get the smelling salts for Delia…she looks stunned)
I am sure the vulgarity of your comment is lost on you.
Yes, it does. How is what I said vulgar?
…like I said it is lost on you. I am confident the majority here understand very well.
I never expected that you would get it. you really are predictable, as are most who don’t do their own thinking.
You can’t point to it. Tell you what, take all the time you need to twist up some gymnastic semantics. Give it your best shot, and I’ll deconstruct and shove it right back down you gullible gullet. You don’t have the goods, You know it, I know it. And everybody else knows it. Don’t be such a pussy. You give real men a bad name.
Poor Urine Sensei wouldn’t recognize vulgarity if he saw it. His world is in a lower level that that, call it the level of the unseemly. What is really immediately disgusting, but ultimately sad, about his efforts is that he seems convinced that his distractions and insults are somehow instructional or enlightening. Poor old sod.
Fred can’t point to it either.
They are right. It is vulgar, and you do not see it. I will try to educate (civilize) you.
We’ll start with the root of the word vulgar. Vulgari (Latin) means commoners. All those ignoble, unwashed, crude peasants of Rome. You think it means just vulgar language, crude Anglo-Saxon monosyllables, but it does not. It refers to all the base instincts and behaviors of the ignoble.
You strike at her through her daughter. Less than classy. Last in the finals? Dude, she MADE the finals! That is like saying someone who struggled to come in first “underachieved” while your guy who lost “came in second”.
The tenor of hate in your post (in all your posts, actually) is repugnant. Truly, you embrace your inner pettiness. You gleefully rub your hands, like some fictional evil anti-hero, anticipating the opportunity to relish Palin’s defeat. How you so obviously loathe her, despite the fact that she has done absolutely nothing negative to you or yours ever. You anticipate orgasmically that time of great SchadenFreude.
When you post, you ignore all the niceties of custom. You come here only to make faces at us, call us names, or merely fart in the room, before running out laughing, leaving only your odoriferous memory.
You embrace every vile thought, every petty emotion, every wicked deed. You embrace your most base, your most vulgar, emotions. You are most ignoble. Vulgarus. It describes and defines you. Surely your parents did not raise you to be so odious. You had to achieve this all on your own, or with the assistance of your equally vulgari friends.
Vulgarus. Commoner. You are common.
When the Professional Right listens to the Professional Left…you get this.
EXACTLY!
Why is anyone listening to the likes of the Bush family, Rove, etc? Might just as well throw Cher in that list.
As I stated earlier, the INSTANT a RINO is selected, I will begin to work for Obama. A RINO will cause more problems for the Constitutional/Conservative movement than having Obama in the WH for another 4 years.
We all know he is not going to move to the center. Pelosi and Reid will not let him. He is going to double down on a pair of twos.
If the Rethugs can find a better candidate, say Ron Paul or some other C/C heavyweight, then I will work for the party, otherwise no way.
If she wants to run, she will. It we want to vote for her, we will.
So get off her back and quit TELLING us how to think.
I get that SP can run if she wants to and I get that you can vote how you want to. But since when is writing an editorial based upon a particular point of view considered “telling you how to think”?
Since when? Since I read this rino-wonk article posted in pajamasmedia (of all forums), that’s when. I am so sick of these paranoid Palin bashers I could spit! I like Sarah Palin. I like her family. I agree with nearly all of her positions on national defense, protecting our borders, containing spending, encouraging (rather than punishing) business, refusing to raise taxes, etc., etc. — that is to say, ALL the truly important matters. So why should I listen to the NRC elites, SNL, and the MSM (Democrat & “Right Wing” alike)? To hell with them. I will fight for, and support, my own interests as a self-reliant, conservative, American.
OK. So that I understand – and I am in sympathy with most of it. It is true, the author gives some very disingenuous “advice” to Palin – with a thinly disguised intent to denigrate it seems. But he also asks a very important question for all of us here: Can she win?
This article illustrates why Pajamas Media is far down the list of blogs I read daily.
May God bless Sarah Palin and her family.
I am sorry to say that I agree. PJM use to be the first blog to go to..use to be…
Poor Sarah! Except she doesn’t need my sympathy! She has enough starch in her to handle people like Jazz, who says he is a former Rino. Somehow I don’t believe him. He sounds just like all the rest of the “putter downers”. GO SARAH!!!
Hey Jazz, I guess the difference between you and me is that I know my limitations and you don’t know yours. Come to think of it, that might be the biggest difference between Obama and Palin, Democrats and Republicans, and Radicals, Liberals and Conservatives. Here are more that five reasons to vote for Sarah Palin for President I copied from another contributor in another article. The contributor is Rachael Peppers.
Being brutally honest, can Obama hold a candle to Palin?
Believes private industry capable of creating far more jobs than government Sarah
Despises private enterprise Obama
Ordered Clinton to UN to complain of US civil rights violations in Arizona in front of communist mass murderers of own citizenry Obama
Best fisherman Sarah
Best marksman Sarah
Best hunter Sarah
Best basketball player Sarah
Best golfer Obama
Best bowler Sarah
Most courage Sarah
Best liar Obama
Most integrity Sarah
Most athletic Sarah
Most natural leader Sarah
Biggest blowhard Obama
Most corrupt politician Obama
Most trustworthy Sarah
Most frugal Sarah
Most wasteful Obama
Most proud of America Sarah
Most self pride Obama
Most vain Obama
Acts much more effeminate Obama
Most character Sarah
Totally supportive of infant slaughter Obama
Capable of most bench presses Sarah
Capable of most chin-ups Sarah
Capable of running sub 7 minute mile Sarah
Ever fired a shotgun Sarah
Wants to repeal second amendment Obama
Wants to repeal ObamaCare Sarah
Capable of dealing with foreign leaders without apologizing for America Sarah
Ever fired an automatic weapon Sarah
Thinks automatic weapons should be destroyed Obama
Ever sent a son or daughter to war Sarah
Is aware that the “s” in Marine Corps is silent Sarah
Agrees with 70% of Americans that ground zero mosque is highly offensive Sarah
Believes 9/11 savages should be tried in military court Sarah
Starting to confuse the race card for aces and eights Obama
Believes border-securing needs immediate action Sarah
Believes national defense is the priority Sarah
Would lie when taking the oath of office Obama
Calls fellow Americans who disagree with him racists and enemies Obama
Wants to close down news stations that disagree with him Obama
Pewed with a racist pastor for 20 years then pleaded ignorance Obama
Desires to bankrupt America Obama
Believes in free speech Sarah
Would be delighted to be President of Russia
Obama
Believes in the second amendment Sarah
Believes in the United States Constitution Sarah
If Obama were a candle, I’d say Sarah has the qualifications, the will and the duty to blow him out.
Thoroughly done, man. Thank you! Sarah is ten time the man Obama will ever be.
That explains your staring at the bulge in her pants
I do hope that Ms. Palin does not run. For several reasons:
1) The media and other Democratic Party lapdogs will do everything they can to keep Sarah’s message from getting out. If you think the hate and venom was bad before just wait – especially when the Democrats realize that Sarah could possibly beat Obama. She and her family may be strong enough to handle it, but more energy will be spent overcoming the bias and other crap than will be spent for a real campaign.
2) I think that she can provide more help by being in a support role – working for other candidates, helping to set the tone for the campaign. For example, could she do a better job as head of the RNC than Steele?
3) The Republican elite will not support her. they will as supportive as that doofus McCain and his team were. How he wasn’t able to beat a zero like Obama is beyond me.
That said, if she does run I will do what I do with other candidates – observer, understand, and then determine whom I believe the best candidate will be. As the author of the article should also do.
1) No matter which Repub is picked, they will be fighting the MSM and the dems, so your point?
2) Sure, if she loses the primary to a conservative, she will endorse the candidate, if a RINO, I hope she goes back to Alaska and waits for 2016. If a conservative beats her, she helps 100%.
3) The Republican establishment I could care less about. I am hoping the same thing that happened in Delaware happens in the next election. What is the difference between a RINO and a Dem? THE NAME! Plus, how does electing a RINO help us? Seems that GWB had led us to this point in time with their partners in crime on the left.
Enough, Constitutional Conservatives or elect the socialists. That is where the RINO’s lead us anyway.
Hey Jazz, since when is ignorance a point of view ?
Sarah could beat Obama.
The question is: can she beat Obama + NBC CBS MSNBC CNN ABC the Washington Post the New York Times the LA Times Leno Letterman Saturday Night Live Jimmy Fallon the SEIU the AFL/CIO ACORN NOW NAACP Sierra Club vanity Fair Newsweek Time Hollywood and frequent death threats.
Precisely. And don’t forget Jazz Shaw — whoever the hell is — Maybe he’s a pal of Sarah’s former “neighbor” (the pervert who moved in next door and attempted to pry into the private daily lives of the Palin family). You would think Palin is some sort of anti-American, open-borders, tax + tax + tax and spend like crazy, professional politician or something.
Hey, I’ve got a novel idea. How about all you squishes who say you like her but she can’t win, get off your fat arses and go to work to get her elected. To win in 2012, it’s gonna take a lot of feet on the ground to beat the OFA efforts of recruiting every dumbarse who thinks the government owes them a living. If you’re being honest and do like her, why sit back and do nothing?
@ 60 Thanks Habib for correcting the spelling for us hoi polloi. R-E-S-P-E-C-T, Mr. Shaw!
@ “Even if you did pick a few clunkers in the midterms.” Fully 37 of Sarah Palin’s 52 candidates won. Since she took some long shots, like a moose across a wide Alaska valley, this is nothing to sneeze at. Do us a favor and count up the candidates you were rooting for and tell us your percentage (and the candidates’ names too).
You may not be the RINO you were, but to the unwashed masses of mid-America, your article comes across as smug and condescending. And devoid of real analysis. Please don’t stretch the patience of PJM or its readers with more of the same.
P.S. Tina Fey hates playing Sarah Palin.
This clown is elbowing his way into HotAir, and brings his cloud with him there too. True, his opinion is settled and it’s anti-Sarah, so that part of his rant is right. The rest is projection. He lost me with his “leftists are going to make fun of Sarah” BS. Bite me Jazz, that’s called CREDIBILITY.
B.O.R.I.N.G.
Go back to Hot Air because you’re still full of it. Eeoyres like you and Allah belong together. You see the glass as half empty.
Anybody can beat Dumb-0 including my 90 year old grandmother. Dumb-0 is NOT popular. Dumb-0 is NOT intelligent. Dumb-0 needs a TOTUS to talk. He doesn’t have a gift. People say he’s a nice guy because they don’t want to be called RAAAAAAACIST but they are still not going to vote for him. His approval rating has hit the 30′s, duh. Your kid could beat him.
Just admit your a NE Rino and you don’t like Palin. You’re entitled to your opinion. Just don’t give us this bull.
I just think it is sad that academic prowess is considered the primary qualification for the Presidency. Further, it is disgraceful that there is a discrepancy between the choice of the people, and “electability.”
If that (academic prowess) is his key qualification, how the hell did Obama get in? He has NOTHING to show for all the advantages he enjoyed in the Ivy League PC game. Show me his thesis. Show me his articles. Show me ANYTHING that I ought to be impressed with, academically speaking. Sorry. There is nothing there. He is a fraud. And as for his two “memoirs” (talk about an inflated sense of self importance!), why on Earth would I assume that he actually penned them on his own? He has no record. He has no verifiable background by which to judge. He is a media/academe creation.
why on Earth would I assume that Palin actually penned them on her own?
Dr of what . . . hysterical ignorance?
you really are uninformed ..I will not call you STUPID regardless.
SP had a ghost writer help with her book and does not hide that fact.
stop trying to be clever you are not. not that I mean to say you are STUPID.
…don’t worry there is an email coming to you from g soros advising you to find a new moniker.
Pity to see such a half-fomred response. Your lack of critical thinking or even a rudimentary grasp of language and its possibilities betrays your desperate attempt to hide your irrelevance. Maybe if you stayed just a tad further int eh background the Tea Baggers wouldn’t appear so fat, stupid and lazy
She did not write her own book. She left that to a pro. How stupid of her! Except that she DID help write it by giving the author 20,000 words of her own to work with. That means she actually co-authored her book.
You are so busy hating her, that you cannot give her any credit whatsoever. You could at least damn her with faint praise. But that would require some literary skills of your own. Where are your best-selling books and millions of dollars, by the way?
It’s hard to take Team R seriously while they remain menaced with the specter of Palin as their nominee in 2012. Particularly as they cling to the stale leadership Boehner McConnell.
They’re the past and she’s not the future.
My guess is that Jazz would have given the same advice to Ronald Reagan in 1979. I remember that the Carter White House was delighted that the Republicans nominated Ronald Reagan over George H W Bush.
I liked Sarah Palin at first, but her thin-skinned retorts to people who’ve been critical of her have convinced me that she doesn’t have the temperament I would want in a leader. Her endorsement of unvetted candidates worries me about her own qualifications, as well.
Everybody on the right seems to be claiming the mantle of the tea party movement, but I think it would be a mistake to conclude that she controls it, any more than Ron Paul or Dick Armey does. Elections turn on swing voters, and if you start acting high and mighty, you turn off those very voters.
because of garbage like this. I’m no “Palinista”, but I’m sick of the tone of what passes for critique coming out of this particular contributor. Looks like I made a rare visit back here just in time to be reminded why those visits are coming so few and far between.
Good riddance. I can read this kind of crap in mainstream media.
Aren’t you the least bit curious how she would fare in a debate with dumbo and mittens and huck or whoever else chooses to run?
I love her because she has stones that are absent from the rest of the field
if she bombs in the debates so be it
but if she kicks ass, and it shouldn’t be too hard since she’s on the logical side of the argument and doesn’t deride the greatness which is America, don’t you think people will accept her more
too many pundits are trying to abort her before she gets in the ring
why is that?
“How will you handle Social Security? What will you do about North Korea and Iran and the Russians? And every stumbling response, each three-heartbeat pause before answering, any perceived misstep in your comments will be loudly “refudiated” in the press and run in a non-stop loop on cable television for weeks at a time. And really … who needs that kind of pressure?”
Have you been asleep for the last two years? If it’s stumbling responses and indecisive pauses or missteps you’re worrying about from your president then look no further the current POTUS, Jazz. Click over to Roger L. Simon’s Thanksgiving post for what I agree was the worst moment of Obama’s presidency thusfar — the limp refusal to give even cursory support to the Iranians who demonstrated against tyrannical rule, some of whom were killed in the street for their trouble. Something is wrong with a man who fails to display common human decency in the face of evil by saying a few brief words about freedom, in solidarity with those who have risked their very lives to seek it, until being shamed into doing so.
Sarah Palin will run and she will win. She is not ashamed to be an American, and a recovering America won’t be ashamed of having her as their president.
I don’t want to see Sarah Palin run for president either. I believe she’s better suited to lead the party taking Michael Steele’s job – she’s a great fund raiser and she gets the conservative message out. She’s far too adversarial with the media to run for president, and I don’t want to spend two years defending her from malicious attacks from the media.
As for Jazz Shaw – who has parlayed his friendship with Ed Morrisey into slots on conservative blogs – he has little but contempt for conservatives. In 2008 he was an Obama supporter before being shamed into voting for the libertarian candidate (McCain wasn’t “maverick” enough for this “Moderate Voice”). Does that mean his numerous columns savaging Palin and other conservative leaders are without merit? He makes his points, though none are unique, and he seems more interested in inflaming than informing (how many times can he get away with writing the same column?) Jazz Shaw sees himself as a double agent peeling back the sordid underbelly of the conservatism – in that he relishes the little support he receives. He proves the addage that it’s not what you know…but who you know.
Give Jazz Shaw his walking papers…
Prediction: Mitch Daniels will get into the race with the endorsements of Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and Paul Ryan.
Okay, so I’m looking over at Hot Air, and they are quoting left-wing opinion-setters as describing Sarah Palin;s oldest daughter, a woman in her late teens? — or is it her early twenties? — as a “hooker” regarding her performance on Dancing with the Stars. For WHAT? For daring to compete in a celebrity-dance show” Now, I may be crazy, but I just can’t get my mind around this within the context of the supposed “feminist” agenda — am I missing something here? My God, she is just a typical young lady. She has aspirations. She refuses to run and hide, as Tina Fey/Katie Kouric/Whoopie Goldberg/Barbara Bush. and their ilk, single her, and he mother, out for character assassination.
I have HAD IT with this putrid elitism. Bristol Palin is a fine young lady. Sarah Palin is a fine mother. I have had enough of this crap. Cancel my subscriptions, I will see these a-holes in November 2012.
She’s a tart and a harlot -knocked up as a teen outside of marriage raising a bastard child, resorting to flouncing around in slutty garb shaking and shimmying to the devil’s music to titillate the lurid fantasies of middle aged perverts and closeted lesbians. EXACTLY what’s wrong with our country – throwing away our morals for the first shot at 15 minutes of fame. Disgusting.
wow …your argument is purely hypocritical as you use the vulgar language to denounce vulgarity.
I shouldn’t call it an argument as it is more a tirade on your part and offers nothing to any discussion.. it does however let everyone know what type you are.
If you had the courage to call her out on the truth, you’d agree with me. You don’t, so you won’t.
If you all will recall the media and the repub establishment said no one could beat Obama or Clinton except Mccain. How’d that work out? Never let pundits and the establishment tell you to vote for whom they think is the only one who can win,it’s the sure way to lose.
Jazz Shaw, this is no trial and you are no judge.
I read a few comments and stopped… really the indirect and direct smearing by commenters proved the point of the author that some individuals will find offense at whatever one says about Sarah Palin (sorry, but they were not savvy enough to realize they were fulfilling what was asserting about them…). Restraint is a very good tactic when writing, and, from some of the things I read, I think it would have been wiser if these individuals did not write at all. As Abraham Lincoln most sagely said, “better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.” Why on earth or how can one access the writer’s philosophy because he is tepid about Palin seeking the presidency office? For starters, to assert that he is somehow not fit to write for a website ironically flies in direct conflict with the avid love of the constitution .
Here is the deal, I am a fiscal and social conservative, but I too pray that Palin has the wisdom to not run in 2012 and mess up the election. Call me names all you like, but I do not see it as wise, because I too view her chances of being elected marginal at best. Furthermore, I do not think it would be good for her family. Hypothetically speaking, if she was elected in 2012 her children would be the youngest in around a hundred years, but the security – even after leaving office – is so much different from the last time. Those poor young kids would be haunted with SS agents at all family gatherings and birthday parties for…ever. For the family reason alone, I hope that she does not enter. But also on a practical level Palin has becomes very influential and accrued a great sum in being a political activist who is not in office, thus pure. Furthermore, as I said before, I do not think at this point could be elected, nor would I feel compelled to vote for her on a primary scale….. actually I know I would not.
Just to forgo the “you think she is dumb” and “you are an elitist” comments let me just say you are wrong. Just understand that a larger group of conservative than you imagine see a Palin run as not prudent and hope it does not happen. … if you have problem with that fact, sorry. Tis just facts.
“Why on earth or how can one access the writer’s philosophy because he is tepid about Palin seeking the presidency office?”
Ummm, not quite Regina. If you look at my comment #28, you will see that Mr. Shaw has a record of dumping on Sarah Palin stretching back to when she first made the national scene.
It may be a result of her arousing in him latent feelings of heterosexuality, or any other valid reaction, but he’s hardly been fair to the woman.
I mean she HAS done “the Mayor thing”, “the Governor thing”, and run on the ticket with John McCain. It’s hardly the case that she wiggled and giggled and “you betcha”-ed her way into the highest office in Alaska, is it?
“For starters, to assert that he is somehow not fit to write for a website ironically flies in direct conflict with the avid love of the constitution .”
This also distresses me. I ken that many of the folks here aren’t regulars at PJM, and so they aren’t familiar with Mr. Simon’s genius in every once in a while publishing works like this one.
By doing so he can validly claim that he is presenting a range of opinions on the issues, but the REAL reason is so that the commentariat can take the authors to the woodshed and electronically flog them in the comments.
I suspect that no-one reads Jazz Shaw, Rick Moran, or Ruben Navarette for the inherent excellence of their articles, y’know. That would be like searching for insight or meaning in a Maureen Dowd column…quite ridiculous on the very face of it.
So these folks who want Brother Jazz exiled are like the people who never “got” the underlying point of the Jerry Springer Show,(back when it was fresh and real):
“Audience, here are some losers.
Losers, here is a microphone on a stage…speak your piece and entertain the people with your tale of tragicomic loserliness.”
The POINT,(for those who insisted on repeatedly missing it), being that if there was anything in your life that would cause Jerry Springer’s producers to call you up and invite you on his stage, then hunt that thing down and kill it without mercy and without delay.
I LOVED Jerry Springer’s show, and I hope that one day he is recognized for the service he did to our society and culture by putting such moral defectoids on display for us all to gawk at and learn from.
This is the same purpose Shaw, Moran and their cronies serve here at PJM. They take the stage, they speak their piece, we point at them and laugh,(sometimes we vomit).
“Hypothetically speaking, if she was elected in 2012 her children would be the youngest in around a hundred years, but the security – even after leaving office – is so much different from the last time.”
I think Palin made that decision when she agreed to run as VP. The main requirement for the job, (other than the Constitutionally mandated ones), being that you are expected to outlive your superior…and John McCain wasn’t getting any younger…no “Joe Black” there, (and young Meghan’s public activities are likely accelerating McCain’s aging process).
“Just understand that a larger group of conservative than you imagine see a Palin run as not prudent and hope it does not happen. … if you have problem with that fact, sorry. Tis just facts.”
Well, see, if she runs we get to ascertain if that group of conservatives is larger than the pro-Palin group…in the primaries, don’t we?
There are valid reasons not to support Palin, but what is distressing is the tone being set…like her even running for the nomination will be some kind of affront to public decency or something.
We saw the fruit of this approach in Delaware, where Mike Castle, in a truly bitchy fit of pique, took all his marbles and went home, refusing to endorse Christine O’Donnell…whatever your opinions of O’Donnell were, you should at least recognize that the treatment of her was a blueprint for how they want to handle Palin.
So if Palin runs, and that “big” group of conservatives turns out to not be as big as you allege, and she then gets the nomination, the tone being set will encourage that that sub-set of the Party “do a Castle”…and then we get 4 more years of the Alleged Hawaiian Puddin’head…or 4 years of the UberFrauFuhrer, Adolf Hillary.
Which, I think, is what Jazz Shaw really wants.
CARP!
Strike “Joe Black”…insert “Benjamin Button”.
Thx
“Just understand that a larger group of conservative[s] than you imagine see a Palin run as not prudent and hope it does not happen. … if you have problem with that fact, sorry.”
If this is a fact, as you say, where can I look up the numbers that support it? How large is this group? How do you know the members of the group are really conservatives? How do I know you are a member of this conservative group? You don’t sound like one. Do you think Jazz is a member of this conservative group?
It’s a thankless job? You won’t make as much as you are now? It’ll be a tough campaign? Tina frickin Fey? Really? Oh here’s one: You might lose!
So might anyone else! Pathetically weak, Mr. Shaw. Tell us what you really fear- that she is the only one that would tame the over-reaching, ever growing federal government, perhaps?
Sarah is like the lead goose in formation … she’s taking all the risk and working the hardest against steady opposition. Believe me, if Christie or Romney or Huckabee were truly considered the LEAD goose, they would be taking all the FLAK.
Let’s just clarify the “clunker” endorsement record, shall we?
Romney and Christie endorsed Meg Whitman, who lost by almost the same margin as Christine O’Donnell — but nobody gives them S*** for their “clunker” endorsement. Moreover, the fact that New Hampshire and Kentucky RETAINED their GOP seats with Palin endorsees trumps the overly-hyped fact that the Dems retained their senate seat in Delaware. At the end of the day, a DEMOCRAT won in a DEMOCRAT state. Shocking. Exit polls suggested Castle would have lost as well, RINO Bastard. But Palin is blamed for losing the senate. Unbelievable.
Is anyone going around blaming Obama for losing his senate seat in Illinois? According to Shaw’s logic, this should be a reason for him not to seek re-election, by God.
Moreover, Palin didn’t endorse Angle in the Nevada primary … she endorsed no one. Her support of Angle came AFTER the primary. What was she supposed to do, not support the GOP candidate chosen by the F*****’ PEOPLE OF NEVADA??????
I’m sick of the B.S. … Bring it on, people. If Sarah decides to run, prepare for shock and awe. Because I guarantee you …. if she’s in the race, all the posers like Jazz Shaw will sound like Baghdad Bob when the American forces steamrolled across the Euphrates.
And Palin knows how to win … She’s won more races than Romney and Christie combined. BRING.IT.ON posers.
Honey, Palin is taking “all the flack” because she is currently unemployed. She’s not busy running a state, like Christie or Jindal, so she can BE the “lead goose.” She’s got the free time. She’s not running a state…she’s busy running “Sarah Palin Inc.”
Umm, Romney isn’t employed, either, being exceedingly rich. Where is HIS leadership?
Michelle Bachmann IS employed, and is likewise taking a lot of flak.
Where are the men, hmm? Why is it the women have to take the flak? Because the men know how the game is played, and in their behavior, quietly accede to the rules. I would call them sissies, but it would insult the women who are taking the lead.
Lets see “Jazz” says —But that’s the way things work in every hamlet and village of Palinland. You are free to have your own opinions and not support Sarah for anything and everything from president of the United States to the next pope, but if so, do it quietly and keep your mouth shut. the he gave advice to —This runs parallel to the same advice I tried to give to both Barack Obama and John McCain in the fall of 2008.
Say there “Jazz”, you know could you possibly chat up “Carl The Rove”, or Mike the Steele or any of the other members of the “old Boys” the real experts on the GOP, American Politics and any number of other real or supposed causes you- or y’all offer or proffer advice on. My goodness Erma Bombeck in her best days could not get the attention you guys throw at Sarah, or for that matter Christine O’ Donnel or Jane McMahon or Carly or Meg. I guess all you boys are and will continue check your shorts! or junk. Yeah I would not be too concerned with “Big Sis” no she is the least of your worries, but Ms Sarah, and the folks who will be around her- well you might be scared of them. It appears theres may be a new “Schoolmarm” in town. After SHORTS Checking completed Check “6″^
Someone explain to me how Jazz Shaw continues to get his anti-conservative posts up on Hot Air? It’s not about what you know, it’s about who you know and Mr. Shaw has found a way to entice the bouncers at the door to let him in and play. But the big question remains… has Jazz Shaw yet to renounce his early endorsement of Barack Obama in the spring of 08?
Frank, Allah Pundit runs Hot Air and he is as snarky about Sarah as Jazz Shaw is. Allah needs all the support he can get.
This may come as a surprise to many who adhere to conservative orthodoxy, but HotAir and PJM actually embrace dialogue with coherent but non-conforming points of view. Jazz Shaw has been a gifted and essential component of HotAir’s daily ustream.tv show with Ed Morrissey. Ed regularly acknowledges Jazz’s dedicated work and doubles his pay at least twice a year (but alas, even a hundred doublings of zero is still zero). Jazz labels himself as a moderate, he’s been up front about his perspective — and it is very useful to have him available to respectfully dialogue on issues of the day. It’s OK if you don’t agree with his take on Sarah, but the commentary above implies that Jazz should be blacklisted from HotAir and PJM because he isn’t sufficiently worshipful of her holiness, Sarah Palin.
Mr. Shaw has only five things against him, so far as I can tell: (a) he’s an admitted heretic, (b) he’s a Northeasterner, (c) he’s an admitted former RINO (all three of which together indicate he’s a “moderate,” which means liberal), (d) he has the unserious first name of Jazz, and (e) he sounds like he’s as scared of Sarah as are most of the liberal lamestream media elites.
Is much as I hate to admit it I agree. Palin is a great person and a generally nice person…she does have what it takes to bare-knuckle politics.
Considering the flack she got as VP those things will come back and she will need to answer some questions.
Questions that she may not be able to/like to answer.
Her followers may be diehards…but so are Ron Paul supporters and he’s also failed…repeatedly.
Who your diehards are are pointless. One must be able to WIN OVER people in order to win. Palin is too polarizing to do that.
Mr. Shaw your claim regarding Palin’s contributions is both offensive and absurd. It seems you are trying to start a nasty, catty rumor with no basis in fact. The names of those who contribute under $200 DO NOT have to be reported. The fact that Palin’s PAC has so many of these contributors is actually an indicator of MASSIVE grass roots support, unlike Romney, who gets most of his PAC contributions from a small group of wealthy donors. Yet, despite the fact that most of her contributions were from small donations, she was able to raise millions of dollars. That you try to make this an issue by trying to demean it without basis in fact, tells me that you are very worried about the level of support Palin has from middle class people all over the country. The whole tone of your article is like all the other Palin bashers who will do and say anything to demean this fine woman. These attempts to defame her are pathetic at best.
He was implying that Oscumbag wants her to run because he knows she can’t beat him. In that way the contributions encourage her to run, and thus hand Obozo the victory. Got it?
It is a serious mistake to promote Sarah Palin above the conservative/libertarian ideals that she claims to represent.
When personalities are placed before principles, we are lost.
I’m personally tired of hearing about her. Sometimes she’ll have some good comments that harken back to those principles I mentioned, but all too often the story is just another example of the media trying to make a spectacle out of her, to make HER the story rather than the ideas she represents.
And at what point does she cease to represent these ideas? Not because she no longer believes in them, but because such a spectacle has been made of her that she becomes a symbol for something else entirely.
In order to make money, you have to have something to sell. The ONLY thing Sarah Palin has to sell is the possibility that she will run for president. If she passes on 2012, it will be a tough sell. If she passes on 2016, she won’t have anything to sell at all.
So please, please, please stop writing these pieces encouraging her to keep making money doing what she’s doing instead of running for president because the two things are conjoined. She can’t have one without the other.
The obviousness of this conclusion leads Palin supporters like myself to believe that such pieces are written out of some ulterior motive such as a fear that she will upset the RINO order at the top of the GOP. That only makes us support her even more fervently.
Where in the world were all these naysayers when a community organizer with a very limited intellect who holds strident anti-American views, who almost failed out of college (and wouldn’t have even gotten in if he were not black!), a failed law career (a lecturer which is hardly more than a substitute teacher at a second tier law school) and Chicago politician with more than a whiff of corruption around him…WHY Oh WHY…didn’t you all tell that idiot not to run…that he couldn’t be president…no you journalists had an agenda that you decided to push…there are NO journalists for all intents and purposes in America and you all sicken me!
And us, too!
Wow, this post is simply dripping with sarcasm and condescension from someone allegedly on our own side? Can’t you make a reasoned argument in a tone that is at least halfway respectful for our party’s former vice presidential candidate, who just spent a ton of effort working towards GOP success in the 2010 election?
I am a reasonable person. I can respect honest disagreement as to whether Palin should or should not be the GOP nominee for 2012. However, the decision of whether she will run in the first place is for her and her alone. Jazz Shaw, nor anybody else, has any business TELLING her what to do. She can make that decision on her own and then we will collectively decide whether or not to elect her.
I can’t wait for Shaw to be banished back to the Green Room at HotAir.com . . . by picking up trash like Shaw I wonder if HotAir will wind up discrediting itself in the conservative world.
In other words, Jazz Shaw has no First Amendment rights? Why not?
“I can’t wait for Shaw to be banished back to the Green Room at HotAir.com . . . by picking up trash like Shaw I wonder if HotAir will wind up discrediting itself in the conservative world.”
Are you referring to that website that I stopped reading, the one with all the gay, athiest, RINO posts? Hot Air stopped being conservative a long time ago, hence it cannot discredit itself in the conservative world.
Watching all this Republican infighting over Palin is kind of like watching two obnoxious drunks go at it outside of a club, with the only real difference being that there is no real Samaritan urge to try to break it up. I will say that the best thing you can say about Palin is that she has a pretty good enemies list — kind of like what Hilary Clinton had when the entire right wing nut-o-sphere was united in its hatred of all things Clinton. Now it feels like Hilary would have a good time going fishing with the Palins and that Sarah would have a good time visiting an art museum with the Clintons.
you really should do some investigation into your friends the Clintons. If they weren’t the Clintons and gaggles of insiders and blind supporters(people like you) they would be in prison.
Spare me that tired old BS about Clinton: his main sin was in not keeping his zipper zipped, whereas the sins of Bush and his buds are on vastly larger scale and laughably much more serious, from lying us into a hugely bloody and destructive war to outing an active CIA agent out of pure spite for her husband.
…I did not really think you would look into it. why would you want to learn that your support is so misguided that you wouldn’t be able to face the daylight.
and what is laughable is that I was referring to Hillary as much if not more so then poor misunderstood Bill.
someday the truth will find you even if you do not find it.
I know what I know, I research what I suspect, and I shut up about stuff I don’t know.
Mr Shaw – Thanks for the blunt piece; I’m glad someone is saying it. Sarah Palin is great at being Sarah Palin, and she might even be a great secretary of energy, but she’s not going to be my president. I don’t like the thin-skin she is betraying (ALWAYS having to get her retribution for real or perceived “smears”) it is way too much like Obama, for me. One thin-skinned, hyper-sensitive perpetual victim in the white house is enough during my lifetime, thanks.
In fact, Sarah Palin is beginning to remind me a lot of Obama. They’re both too sensitive. They both think they’re smarter and more perfect than they really are. They both like to incite one side against the other and seem not to realize that the president needs to be president of ALL the people. I hate that Obama is so partisan and so quick to let his base know that he’s their president, first. Palin will be the same way. We don’t need that right now.
Sarah Palin’s supporters should recognize that while their fantasy of Palin is one thing, the reality of President Palin would be something else. Suddenly she’s going to have to cut things they like. Suddenly she’s going to have to praise a Saudi prince. Suddenly she’s going to have to meet respectfully with Putin. “Oh, no!” They’ll say, “What has happened to our Sarah!”
They don’t want to realize that politics and the game of it creates politicians. And we all hate politicians.
Finally, the biggest reason I don’t want to see Palin as president, and will not vote for her, is because of her supporters. Her supporters and the hateful vitriol they spew for anyone who makes even the mildest criticism of their heroine have totally turned me off of Palin. I have been on the fence about Palin, but lately I find I don’t want her to win because I don’t want them to win. They’re already unbearable.
You Palin fans should think about that. You, and the way you behave, acting like she is “perfection” and unerring, and incapable of earning some criticism (EVERYONE is capable of earning criticism) are making the whole Palin thing seem creepy and freakish. I want no part of YOU which means I won’t want any part of Palin, too.
That’s another way Palin is like Obama. I don’t need some “Queen” in the WH anymore than I needed a “King”, and their followers are like goosesteppers…they just keep marching for their hero no matter what.
If you ask me, it borders on idolatry. And all the “good Christians” who are treating Palin like some sort of demigod should think about that. I’d say they’re coming close to breaking a commandment over that woman. But I doubt they are introspective enough or honest enough to see it.
“Your Sensei
She’s a tart and a harlot -knocked up as a teen outside of marriage raising a bastard child, resorting to flouncing around in slutty garb shaking and shimmying to the devil’s music to titillate the lurid fantasies of middle aged perverts and closeted lesbians. EXACTLY what’s wrong with our country – throwing away our morals for the first shot at 15 minutes of fame. Disgusting.”
jbl, that sly dogie-dog, writes: “Finally, the biggest reason I don’t want to see Palin as president, and will not vote for her, is because of her supporters. Her supporters and the hateful vitriol they spew for anyone who makes even the mildest criticism of their heroine have totally turned me off of Palin. I have been on the fence about Palin, but lately I find I don’t want her to win because I don’t want them to win. They’re already unbearable.”
You want vitriol, doggie, try Your, who is definitely not a Palin supporter one would suppose. He’s got it by the rice-bag full.
Yours are reasonable objections… in normal circumstances. Thin-skinned? Maybe. But you are blaming the victim for the crime. Besides, in the old days, they would fight duels over slander. When did it become fashionable to not fight back, to be a wuss?
In this time, with an exposed Old Media still acting as the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party, it is SP’s herculean task to continue to expose the lies. Lying is how they’ve taken our country, and exposing the lies is how we shall take it back.
Do we get harsh in our condemnation of criticism of Palin? Yes. Not because we cannot stand legitimate criticism of her, but because most of it is the same tired lies!
It’s also the support of the same old paradigm that has brought us to this low point. We must break the cycle of politics. It must CHANGE. It SHALL change!
We defend vociferously, because we believe that our country is in a fight for its very survival. If you do not share our hysteria, it’s because you do not fully grasp the situation yet. Perhaps we go overboard. Perhaps. However, we did not create this situation. The radical revolutionaries did. Blame them, not us.
Now, all that said, can you honestly say that this was nothing more than an establishment type’s hit-piece on SP? The kind he has posted many times before? Those were 5 very weak reasons to not run. Because it’ll be HARD? She might LOSE? She would take a pay cut if she won? Et cetera? Do you really think that was a good article?
I’m not for banning Shaw from here. I would just rather that PJM had better authors so that there would be no room for Shaw here, because he cannot make the cut. His writing skills are poor. He should study Coulter for tips on how to do snark properly. And he should try more reasoned pieces, with pluses and minuses to contrast.
See? We Palinistas are not all rabid.
Some of the comments here illustrate my point well. They are so treacly about Palin they make one want to barf. And its’ amazing to see Jazz Shaw and PJM being called “leftwing” simply because this article is posted. You people don’t see how nuts you’re sounding?
Palin is overexposed and two years is a long time. You people need to put your bigboy pants on and realize that you, her base, are insufficient to elect Palin. She needs the independents and she will not get them.
I’m an independent, and she won’t get me.
This line from Jazz’s snideatribe is revealing:
“Because if you say anything Palin related, running the full range from suggesting that someone else might make a good presidential candidate to wondering if — just possibly — Jennifer and Derek might be slightly better dancers than Bristol and Mark, then you are a hater who seeks to destroy Governor Palin and her beautiful family.”
Note the “full range” here: from one negative view of Palin to a different negative view of Palin. How about this, Jazz: “… the full range of suggesting someone else might make a good presidential candidate to thinking, Hey, Palin would make a great presidential candidate”?
That would be a range.
To the Palin-haters, this simple logic test never works. Why not? Because their animosity does not arise from a rational base but instead from an irrational one, one of fear. They being thought of as stupid. They think Palin either, 1) is stupid or 2) is perceived as stupid to the degree they cannot shake it. In either case, being on the same side as Sarah gets them “Stupid Stink.”
The irony here (now there’s a word that anti-Palinistas love) is that the arguments they use against Palin — like this one — are, well, stupid. Illogical. Irrational. Emotion-based. Fear-based.
Sorry, Jazz, but your position on Palin will not gain you any cred after writing this kind of tripe. You’ve tipped your hand and we all see what you really are: dumb.
Here is a different set for y’all:
Lots of folks won’t accept a female as president.
She comes across as of limited intelligence.
Some of her data banks seem to be empty.
We’ve seen her quit; and we’ve seen her lose.
Her focus is apparently on the miniscule.
She is no enemy of political pork.
Her family is dysfunctional.
She keeps Mr. Palin in an upstairs closet.
She has no foreign policy or military experience.
Many suppose she can be easily scammed and/or bought.
She does not compare favorably with Keyes, Gingrich, or Santorum.
We don’t want her coming to the aid of “our friends in North Korea”.
Some of her determinations seem subjective; not rational.
Benjamins? You know that’ black talk, right? Rap hop stuff, right? Why would you contribute to the destruction of our language and our society?
Sensei, for the first time in recorded history we are in agreement!
All of the palinbot comments here just illustrate what Jazz said. How dare you criticize our lady messiah. She is in the process of becoming a cult figure to her followers.
This writer is correct. I love that Sarah Palin has reignited Americanism, and she will go down in the history books, rightfully so. But, now is the time for an American alpha male to take the reigns.
“But, now is the time for an American alpha male to take the reigns.”
I realize that this is early in the process, but name me one…
Who is the alternative that you would propose?
I’m open to suggestions, which is why I am also open to Our American Alpha Female from Alaska.
I don’t know exactly what the demographics of the towns and villages of “Palinland” are, but I’d hazard a guess that there’s no one named Jazz living there. Jazz….what was Skippy already taken? Have you ever done any actual work for a living, Jazzy? Being Roger Simon’s cabana boy doesn’t count. The young word wizards sitting in Starbucks scratching out trite “columns” hate people like Sarah Palin because she knows how to work and do practical things. What, she gutted a halibut? How icky, I could break a nail and wouldn’t be able to use my ipod for a couple days…
Tell you what BeBop, your king, Barack the Impaler has no clothes, no cojones, no clue, no chance at re-election. Deal with it, homeboy and cut down on the double lattes. They’re making you fat and stupid.
good post.
Sarah already has the nomination if she wants it. She also has a vast army of potential volunteers who will dedicate everything they have to her victory. She is already the Leader of the Opposition and doing a stellar job. The Age of Obama? Yeah, the blip before The Age of Palin. Tea Party on, boys and girls. “Something is happening here, and you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Jazz?”
Two thirds of Tea party candidates lost in 2010. Independents and moderates and liberals and Democrats don’t trust or respect her. You want to nominate her, good luck. There aren’t enough rabid right wing extremists to get it done. Face it Americans are smarter than Tea Baggers. You don’t like it, but it’s true, but by all means, buy tha tused Pinto. It won’t explode in your face, I promise
“buy tha tused Pinto. It won’t explode in your face, I promise”
What type of bean is a tused Pinto? Or is this just a gaseous comment?
70% of Palin’s endorsees won. Some she put over the top. They lose without her.
I find these questions about Palin’s electability to be laughable in their lack of perspective.
Elections don’t happen in a vaccuum. If by some miracle the economy has robust growth in 2011 and 2012 (and things don’t fall apart internationally), then Obama will probably be reelected no matter who the Republican nominee is.
On the other hand, if the economy is still in the tank come November 2012–and we are continuing to project weakness to our enemies all over the globe (both of which are likely to happen) then Republicans will have the strongest chance for victory in the general election if they nominate someone who personifies the best of what conservatism is all about: Love of country, believer in traditional American values, for limited government and lower taxes, stong support for Israel, and possesses not only an abundance of common sense and inspiring leadership abilities–but also the gravitas necessary to stand up to the character-assasinating Democrats and their minions in the lamestream press. And so much the better if an enthused and inspired base is prepared to go all out to help our nominee win the general election.
So far, the only Republican who meets all these criteria is Sarah Palin. Nobody else is even close. So before the Rhinos and blue blood elitists make any more arguments–and unleash any more treachery–against Sarah, they better be able to suggest at least one other Republican presidential contendor who has all these qualifications. Right now, as far as the eye can see, no such person exists on the radar.
The bottom line is that when our base is ready to move mountains, we cannot be defeated! W. couldn’t have been reelected in 2004 without their commitment and dedication. Their impact on the presidential elections of 1980 (remember that Reagan was supposedly unelectable) and 1984 was undeniable–and their lack of enthusiasm for Bush I (“read my lips, no new taxes”) and Dole were instrumental in Clinton winning the 1992 and 1996 elections.
Again, elections are not held in a vaccuum. When people–whether they’re independents, Democrats, Republicans, or libertarians–have lost income and jobs–are are hurting–at some point during the primary and general election campaigns, they’ll (temporarily at least) put aside their biases and take a serious look at the major candidates of both parties–and in a heartbeat all can change (just think what Sarah would do to Obama in a series of Presidential debates)–as it unexpectedly did for Reagan and Obama in the 1980 and 2008 Presidental campaigns.
So please put aside the snide remarks about Sarah and do something constructive for once. Maybe you want to offer your own services to the Party and the Country–and run for President yourself–if you can’t in good conscience recommend anyone else. Otherwise, shut up, and let the voters have their say!
“Back when you grabbed two beers and headed for the exit slide of the Alaska governor’s mansion. . .”
Are you really trying to build a serious argument, or engender sympathy through cheap shots?
The sarcasm is funny, but faint praise might be the better angle for the anti-Palins.
For the record, I’m ambivalent; I admire the lady, but don’t see the value in omitting serious consideration of others, e.g. Tim Pawlenty.
Bristol, Piper, Track, Willow, Trig.
And yet there are pro-Palin commenters here making fun of the first name “Jazz?”
Yes, Vladimir. We are making fun of the first name “Jazz”.
For that matter.. Vladimir. What, did the stiff in Red Square come back to life?
Only Palin, among the Republicans, has been consistently and forcefully oppositional–she didn’t hesitate for a moment, and never gave “thoughtful consideration” to whether we really need to get along with Obama, or whether it was too risky to seem hostile to him. Only she has openly aligned herself with the Tea Party movement, adopting its concerns and vocabulary, and putting herself on the line with endorsements across the board. Not too many people seem to have noticed that she pays very close attention, not just to daily events, but to the strongest elements, practical and intellectual, of the opposition to Obama and the Democrats–recently, an op-ed piece coined (or reminded us of) the excellent term, “market populist,” to denote one who is pro-markets but not pro-big business. The article itself may have referenced Palin (I don’t remember) but, either way, her Facebook post a few days later latched onto the phrase and adopted it. That move not only demonstrated attentiveness and political savvy, but also indicated that she knows exactly what the stakes are, and how the sides are shaping up. If she continues to be as right about the issues, and to explain herself as clearly, as she has been, she will win over independents.
What can we deduce from Palin’s role so far? She knows where she stands, and she doesn’t hesitate to let it be known. In Sarah Palin we have a two-edged sword that is rare in politics. Perhaps, liberals innately understand this, which explains their collective response.
I also believe she would win a lot of Independents. She practically is an Independent, except that she identifies strongly with Christians.
Another bit of evidence that shows Sarah is true-blue is that she already has said she will not run if she causes division. In the Bible there is a story of a woman who decides to not contend for true motherhood of a child, because a usurper’s vulgar selfishness would mean physically splitting and killing the baby. Her decision to give up the baby in order that it would live proved she was the real mother.
it’s actually the first troll-quality article published in PJM.. LOL
Sarah Palin is like Joan of Arc. It isn’t so much how much she can do to clean up this awful mess we have let happen to our Government, it is the 100 million conservative Americans who need a leader to not stab us in the back while we proceed to clean up the Government.
SO just back off, RINO Boy. And you can take the Barbara Bush establishment wing of the elitist Republicans with you. Read my lips, no more Bushes.
So Sarah is your chosen one. Your anointed one. Your, what was it, Joan of Arc. One question: where’s her birth certificate?
Yeah, you and all liberals should follow up hard on that. Demand that Sarah show her birth certificate.
As much as I admire her rise from such humble, middle-class beginnings and her apparent devotion to her family and conservative principles I for one would not be inclined to support her for president – ever.
Though her initial rise to public prominence (actually media hysteria) via her 2008 VP bid was a nice story at the time I have grown weary of what she’s morphed into: Palin, Inc.
I’m tired of her relentless clamor for the the camera and sick of the myriad way she’s established herself more than anything else, as a media hot commodity: The Books, TV guest appearances, her own show and of course the expected spin-off opportunities for her progeny. The whole enterprise is unseemly and in my view, renders her a fundamentally unserious candidate best left as something to be unearthed in one of those media time capsules 100 years from now.
To soberly address the problems we face as a nation I’d much prefer a comparatively dull, reserved and less telegenic leader who DOESN’T want the job but feels duty bound to serve the people. What we need is someone closer to Calvin Coolidge, Harry Truman or Barry Goldwater – not a perpetual American Idol candidate.
MisterH makes a good point–it may be that “we need is someone closer to Calvin Coolidge, Harry Truman or Barry Goldwater.” The only problem is that the Left would eat such a candidate (or President) for breakfast, especially if he started to go after their favorite programs. Would this serious Coolidgean President then expose the lies and fanaticism of his enemies, or consider such brawling beneath the dignity of the office? If the latter, we know the results already. If the former, he might find Palin’s media skills rather useful. But who could learn such skills while in office? We need someone already leading the fight against the Left, not someone who believes that the fight itself is a result of misunderstanding, or excessive partisanship, or money in politics, or whatever.
Who ? is Jazz Shaw. What’s so special about him/her that makes his/her opinion / comment special enough to get a bylined article . Curiouser and curiouser.
Palin for President!
I think Sarah Palin is the most under-rated political figure in America today. No, I’m serious. She was chosen as McCain’s VP and gave an acceptance speech at the Republican Convention that still resonates: “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a “community organizer,” except that you have actual responsibilities.” Can anyone come up with a line from McCain’s acceptance speech?
What followed was a political crime, with members of McCain’s team sabotaging her in a number of ways, including allowing her to be interviewed by MSM figures that hated her and were allowed to edit the interview with the result that even today many people think that Palin has not read a book. Isn’t that one of the reasons so many conservatives doubt her abilities or are on the fence? You are allowing Katie Couric – of all people – to influence your judgment!
He decision to resign as Governor of Alaska was supposed to end her political career. All the “smart” people, like George Will, agreed on this. How’s that prediction working out for you? In what was one of the boldest and smartest moves made by any rookie politician she gave herself the tools to amass a personal fortune and the ability to become a figure on the national stage. Anyone who’s stuck in Alaska simply can’t do that for logistical reasons.
And how about this “dumb broad” using Facebook as a way of bypassing the MSM? No other political figure has used the new media quite this way and this effectively. Reagan’s success was built partly on his ability to speak directly to the American people, avoiding the gatekeepers in the media. He also had the ability to project the fact that he had so much in common with the average American; he was “real people” even though he had spent most of his life in Hollywood. Well, as the Gipper would say, Sarah Palin is the real deal. Didn’t graduate from Yale or Harvard, worked for a living at jobs to which ordinary people can relate, has a real family with all its quirks (sort of like the Reagan kids), has a good looking husband who has a job that – to repeat – to which real people can relate.
Palin is, from the very beginning, an unlikely elected leader. Conventional wisdom says you don’t rise in politics by bringing down your party’s leaders. She became governor of Alaska by bucking the corruption in her own party. Even now she is being dissed by the king-makers in the Republican establishment. I have read some comments by bloggers who wrote that they don’t want to be governed by people like themselves; they want to be governed by their betters. They’re finding out the hard way that their “betters” are simply better credentialed, not wiser. The fact is that most people like to vote for people just like themselves. In the last presidential election they voted for a blank slate that to this day is largely unknown. The next election will be for someone we know intimately. No more voting for ephemeral “HopeN’Change.” It’s time to elect someone who is firmly grounded. Sarah Palin.
Look, I don’t like folks that just whine and find fault.
But on the political analysis this is right on. It’s not going to be easy to defeat Obama and we need another 4 years of dems in high offices like we need the plague.
She is a quitter. That’s not ‘name-calling’ that’s fact. If you don’t like it: too bad, the truth hurts some times. She could not help McCain win the election (he could not help himself either but that’s another story. Had Palin had a different running mate they still would have lost).
Can we please please PLEASE get someone electable?
You have fallen for the establishment smear: “Unelectable” This is how her primary opponents will portray her. “Oh, we like Sarah, and the Tea Partiers, but, alas, she is unelectable.” Repeat several times per day until the lie becomes the truth. (It’s what they did to O’Donnell from the beginning.)
It’s only the truth if you accept the lies told you.
Palin is especially electable.
She has huge name recognition.
She is the Queen of fund-raising, so she will never lack for funds, nor will those she helps campaign.
Many of those elected this cycle owe her big!
She has her own organization to circumvent the establishment GOP.
She will have a magnificent ground game.
She is rehabilitating her image with her reality show of Alaska, changing folks’ minds about her by letting them get to know her. (And getting paid a cool million per episode!)
She will easily carry all the Red States. The problem will be the Blue states, but how is that different from anyone else? Can Romney carry Massachusetts? Really?
She is harnessing new technology, as Obama did. Other Pubbies can’t seem to manage that trick. Not enough FB friends, I guess. I wonder why THAT is?
She will carry FL, OH, and MO. If the economy continues to suck, she will carry far more. She is starting in on IA now. If Huckabee is not in the race, then she will carry IA easily and roll to primary victory. IA in the general election is the key to victory. She may carry NM, too, because the Native Americans represent 4% of the population, and they will really like her hubby and kids! She’ll carry NH in the general… and maybe ME, too. WI, MN, MI and PA are outside chances for her, too. I expect her to get about 308 electoral votes.
Unelectable? She is eminently electable. Go to:
http://www.270towin.com/#
Play with the site a bit. Fun and enlightening. See the House races and Senate races to get a better idea of what the Red State map looks like. Then decide if she is electable or not. Challenge the lies.
President Palin should run with the idea of aggressively attacking the media and the misogyny of the left. Make them feel it. Sarah Palin is uniquely positioned in American history to exorcise the demons in the Democratic mind set. It will be truly ugly as the leftards who think they are sane start to babble and froth at the mouth when Palin runs for President. Th emotional wreckage in the country will stimulate employment of shrinks for years to come. Pharmacy stocks will soar.
I think she should run with a broader set of people than people traditionally do. Get Bolton on her side.
She has already proven she can take the media hit and be more popular.
The Obama presidency needs to start being ridiculed now. Pigeonhole it, personalize it, isolate it. Find some lefties who want to do that.
That’s been happening since day one.