Southern Poverty Law Center’s ‘Enemies List’ a Fantasy
Catherine Bleish is a 26-year-old libertarian who was a Ron Paul delegate to the 2008 Republican National Convention. She is a leader of the Liberty Restoration Project which, among other things, opposes the federal “War on Drugs” and denounces the Patriot Act as “an assault against the civil liberties of Americans.”
Perhaps you disagree with those views, but is Bleish dangerous?
The Southern Poverty Law Center seems to think so. In a special report called “Meet the ‘Patriots’” issued last week, the SPLC named Bleish as one of 35 people “at the heart of the resurgent movement.” The report — which also names WorldNetDaily publisher Joseph Farah and Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media — describes the movement thus:
“In the last year and a half, militias and the larger antigovernment ‘Patriot’ movement have exploded, accompanied by the rapid expansion of other sectors of the radical right. … [T]he so-called Patriots [are] people who generally believe that the federal government is an evil entity that is engaged in a secret conspiracy to impose martial law, herd those who resist into concentration camps, and force the United States into a socialistic ‘New World Order.’”
The SPLC’s scary references to militias and conspiracies and a “resurgent movement” very much echo Bill Clinton’s recent conflation of the tea party with Timothy McVeigh and, like Clinton, the Montgomery, Ala.-based organization singled out Rep. Michelle Bachmann, calling her an “enabler” of the Patriot movement. Also labeled “enablers” by the SPLC were Glenn Beck and Andrew Napolitano of Fox News, as well as Ron Paul, the Texas congressman whose quixotic 2008 presidential campaign helped turn Bleish into a full-time political activist.
A graduate of the University of Missouri who majored in communications, Bleish says she has postponed her graduate studies — she aims to get a master’s degree in political science — to become involved in a variety of libertarian projects. She participated in the July 2008 “Revolution March” of Paul supporters in Washington, D.C., and attended a May 2009 conference in Jekyll Island, Ga., that also included several others named in the SPLC “Patriot” report. The SPLC says that “seminal” meeting — organized by libertarian activist Bob Schulz — “helped lay the groundwork for the resurgence of the [Patriot] movement.”
Bleish says she’s not sure why the SPLC — which typically monitors hate groups like the KKK and the Aryan Nations — is now targeting libertarians like herself.
“They’re indirectly associating people who aren’t violent and aren’t racist with violence and racism, and that’s unfortunate,” Bleish said in a telephone interview.
If Bleish is considered a “conspiracy theorist,” that’s probably because of her group “Operation: De-Fuse,” which depicts the Department of Homeland Security as part of a “police/surveillance state” that is “militarizing and federalizing our police forces.”
Bleish and others say that this isn’t conspiracy theory, but conspiracy reality. The name of Operation: De-Fuse is a reference the DHS “fusion centers” such as the Missouri Information Analysis Center, which issued a controversial 2009 report identifying Ron Paul supporters and pro-life activists (as well as fans of Rambo movies and Tom Clancy novels) as potential terrorists.
“Militia members most commonly associate with 3rd party political groups,” the MIAC report said. “It is not uncommon for militia members to display Constitutional Party, Campaign for Liberty or Libertarian material.”
If DHS is identifying third-party political movements as threats, is it irrational for supporters of those movements to consider the DHS a threat?
Regardless of the legitimacy of Bleish’s concerns about DHS, however, the SPLC report is at least correct in portraying Bleish as part of a “movement.” Looking over the “Patriot” report, Bleish identified about a dozen names on the list — including Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party — as people she’s communicated with or met at various events. But some of the names on the SPLC’s list call to mind the lyrics of an old Sesame Street song: “One of these things is not like the others.”
Why, for example, does the SPLC list that includes 9/11 “Truther” Alex Jones also name Kincaid, whose Accuracy in Media is a well-established conservative organization devoted to identifying media bias? In fact, Kincaid denounced the 9/11 “inside job” conspiracy theory as “absurd” in a recent column warning that Jones is “playing a destructive role” that could discredit the tea party movement.
Jones and Kincaid are clearly not part of the same “movement,” and there is no connection between Kincaid and libertarians like Bleish, except for their all being named in the same SPLC report. The same is true for Farah, a veteran conservative journalist whom the SPLC report called “a leading fomenter of the baseless claim that President Obama was not born in Hawaii, but in Africa” — an accusation Farah flatly denies.
“[T]hough I have spoken and written hundreds of thousands of words about Barack Obama’s failure to prove his eligibility, I have never said or written that he ‘was not born in Hawaii, but in Africa,’” Farah wrote in his column last week. “What I have said is ever so simple: Obama has not proven he was born in the United States and is a natural born citizen.”
Critics may dispute Farah’s argument, but that argument doesn’t make him a member of the same “movement” as Bleish, Jones and others named in the SPLC report, such as militia activist Mark Koernke and anti-tax radical Red Beckman. However, Farah proudly endorsed those whom the SPLC labeled Patriot “enablers.”
“I’m joined by some good company [on the SPLC list] — my buddy Rep. Michele Bachmann, whom I would support for president tomorrow, Glenn Beck, Judge Andrew Napolitano, Rep. Paul Broun and Rep. Ron Paul,” Farah wrote in his column.
How do these “enablers” fit into the movement that the SPLC is concerned about?
“One reason the resurgent antigovernment ‘Patriot’ movement is taking off so quickly is the support for many of its central ideas that comes from ostensibly mainstream figures in politics and the media,” the report says. “These men and women have helped to put key Patriot themes — the idea that President Obama is a Marxist, that he and other elites in the government are pushing a socialist takeover, that the United States plans secret concentration camps and so on — before millions of Americans, many of whom actually believe these completely false allegations.”
The federal government took over General Motors, “invested” billions of taxpayer dollars in Wall Street financial firms, and recently passed legislation to expand government control over the nation’s health-care system, but concerns about a “socialist takeover” are “completely false allegations”?
If you’re tempted to ask a question like that, you must be a dangerous kook, too. Don’t worry, though — as Farah says, you’re in good company. Over the years, the SPLC has steadily expanded its list of “far-right” menaces to include mainstream conservatives — the American Enterprise Institute, David Horowitz, the Bradley Foundation and Dinesh D’Souza, among others — and as National Review’s Mark Krikorian recently noted, the SPLC accused his Center for Immigration Studies of “spreading bigotry.”
So what about this grab-bag of names on the SPLC’s “Patriot” list? Is it really possible that a single “movement” could include Joseph Farah, Michelle Bachmann, Cliff Kincaid and Alex Jones? Andrew Napolitano, Glenn Beck, Ron Paul and Red Beckman? I put that question to SPLC director of research Heidi Beirich.
“I think our definition of what a ‘Patriot’ group is is very clear. And all these folks, to my mind, fall within that definition,” said Beirich, a Ph.D. in political science from Purdue University who has been with the SPLC since 1999. “It may not seem that way to you, but from my perspective and given our definition, I’m actually surprised that you would ask me this question. The connections are crystal clear.”
Connections between people who’ve never met — some of whom vehemently disagree with each other — are “crystal clear”? Sounds kind of like a “secret conspiracy.” But only dangerous kooks believe in that stuff.






Sheesh. It’s gotten to the point where anyone who doesn’t have Obama’s DNA in their saliva is now considered a dangerous threat to justice and public safety.
They missed me? Darn, must not be agitating enough.
Oh, you’re on their list. They just haven’t figured out how to drum up more donations by mentioning you.
What’s really outrageous is that guys like Alex Jones were talking about this stuff when Bush/Cheney were in office. How does that fit in with this absurd “conspiracy” theory that these people are only against Obama since many of those named have been discussing “that he and other elites in the government are pushing a socialist takeover, that the United States plans secret concentration camps and so on” since even the Clinton administration?
Can you imagine how libs would scream if some conservative group wrote a list like this?
Don’t take Alex Jones seriously; he’s really got no credibility (and he’s also a violent bully; just ask Michelle Malkin).
Yes, Alex Jones is a hypocrite who panders to the detractors of whoever is currently in charge. Consider: when Bush 41 was in charge, he was against Bush 41; when Clinton was in charge, he was against Clinton; when Bush 43 was in charge, he was against Bush 43; now that Obama is charge, he is against Obama. If McCain was in charge, he would have been against McCain (and his documentary would have been titled “The McCain Conspiracy” rather than “The Obama Conspiracy”). If, say, Palin were to become President, then he would be against Palin (and he’s also threatened her with physical harm, by the way).
Other points to consider, proving that he is a fraud…
1. This is the most important (and the most fairly obvious)… if he really was right, then HOW COME HE IS STILL AROUND? How come he hasn’t been shut down and made to “disappear” years ago? Seriously, look at him in his videos; does he ever look worried that he just might “disappear” at any moment?
2. For someone trying to pass himself off as a conservative and a capitalist, he keeps repeating a lot of liberal and socialist talking points (i.e. we need more government regulation, capitalism is to blame, America is to blame, etc.)
3. For someone whose websites are titled “InfoWars” and “PrisonPlanet” (emphasis on the second one in particular, having to do with turning everyone in the world into prisoners of totalitarian regimes), why does he not say anything about countries such as China and Iran, which have already turned their own citizens into prisoners, and have been doing this for years or even decades? Why does he even cite their state-run media outlets, such as Xinhua and PressTV?
4. Now this one is also very important… he (and his ilk) never, ever criticize Islam or Islamic terrorism. They actually prefer to blame everything on the big, bad U.S. government if they can. In fact, not only does he try to ignore or overlook Islamic terror and evil regimes, but in some cases, he’ll actually try to excuse or defend them!
(Actually, this makes for a very good “litmus test” of sorts; see if someone will condemn Islam or Islamic terrorism, or see who they will condemn instead. I’ve seen a lot of people of the same mentality of Alex Jones who harp about Jewish conspiracies for world domination and the State of Israel being a “criminal state” or some such hogwash, but will ignore or even defend Islamic evil and all the suffering which comes out of that. That’s one way to weed out the real, upstanding people from the fakers.)
One of the blogs which I follow is this Zionist Anti-Communist blog; here is his stuff at both WordPress and Blogspot…
http://mah29001.wordpress.com/
http://againstcommies009.blogspot.com/
…and he has lots of goodies on Alex Jones and those like him.
Heh. Google “Alex Jones is a consummate ass.” That’s me in the Darth Vader teeshirt.
Alex Jones may be something of a jerk. That is, however, a secondary issue. Is he dangerous? Does Jones advocate violence?
Certainly on a retail scale at least; in fact, he took a couple of shots at me directly. (Actually, did you watch the video?)
I watched the video and I think you should lighten up on Alex Jones. After all, there are not many ways a fat, homely, middle-aged man can get face time on a video; he found one. It’s the videographer’s fault for giving him the face time.
What a sick, twisted bunch those hate-mongers are! Are they on SPLC’s list? Probably not; you don’t make the list by being on the side of “right” (The Left). Michelle Malkin is a surprisingly tiny person; if I were her, I’d have been waaay more frightened than she appeared to be.
Polly, you forgot “short”. “Middle-aged” is kind of a stretch, too, as he was only 34 in 2008.
Michelle’s a trooper, no question.
Yes he’s dangerous…to tiny Filipino women half his size. Slimeball.
With 30 or 40 lackeys to back him up.
I recommend Alex Jones interview with Ann Coulter to everybody. Unlike the Malkin video, which is simply creepy and sad to look at, the Coulter interview is just funny because thanx to Jones and his callers u get to witness crackpots in their natural environment and I think Ann broke definitely into laughter after she hung up!
Your “point to consider: #1″ is a damned important point. Why ISN’T he afraid he’s going to be eliminated? I went against the children’s book publishing industry and I was more frightened for my career and physical safety than Alex Jones is (or any of those “Loose Change” idiots are).
(Seriously. The children’s book industry is cutthroat. They don’t friggin’ kid around.)
The SPLC is a hate group. One of the most insidious and pernicious in the United States.
I can tell the difference between Communists, Syndicalists, Black Blocers, Progressives/Fabianists, etc. Why can’t these people, with PhD’s in political philosophies, be bothered to learn the difference between different right wing and libertarian philosophies?
Anyone who’s not a leftist fan of Bill Ayers is a “right-wing extremist” who needs to be put in a FEMA camp for the SPLC.
If Catherine Bleish is a dangerous enemy, what about the person who wrote this in October 2008:
“On October 1, 2008, President Bush deployed a brigade — which means three to four thousand warriors — somewhere in America. We do not know where they are deployed though citizens have informally reported to me having seen military vehicles and troops in Georgia and Alabama. We do know that their official mandate according to the first report is ‘crowd control’ as well as action in the event of a mass civilian catastrophe. Initial reports described their technology ‘module package’ as involving Tasers and rubber bullets.”
…that would be Naomi Wolf, well-known feminist/government conspiracy kook, who’d claimed that the Republican electoral defeat in 2006 had been “part of the plan” by Bushitler to turn America into a police state.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/the-battle-plan-iii-deplo_b_133662.html
She also claimed that Bush was intercepting her children’s letters from summer camp. But, of course, since she’s a leftist, she’s not a danger…although she is not allowed to take scissors into her rubber room at night.
We are traitors if we don’t follow Naomi Wolf’s instructions. Here you go:
“10. Print out copies of the User’s Guide to the Declaration of Independence and the Bill or Rights (see http://www.myamericaproject.org for the documents) and pass them out to everyone you see. While there, sign up with our new mission to witness the vote, to raise money for the lawyers, to organize real protest, to fight this war for liberty.
11. Remember that without liberty we are nothing. Remember that the Founders counted on us to act. Remember that courage is called for in times such as these.”
Gee, now that those who are truly faithful to this country are saying the same thing, why is Dear Leader telling us to drink a cup of STFU?
The SPLC has been a left wing tool for 20 or more years. They have been a tool of race pimps and race bases politics for so long the organization is beyond redemption. They have yet to name the NEW BLACK PANTHER Party as a threat. Ask for their financial records and see where you get.
Agreed. They have never listed the ELF, EDF, or any left wing and anarchist groups as a threat. They are left-wing nutjobs.
I wonder if the woman that these weirdos listed could sue them for defamation?
That force deployed in October 2008? Oh yeah, I was just reading about that recently… the “Sea Smurfs”…
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/04/that-there-is-some-bravo-sierra.html
http://ibleedcrimsonred.blogspot.com/2010/04/special-army-unit-conspiracy.html
The Southern Poverty Law Center has outlived its usefulness. Lynching is no longer an everyday experience in the Old South. Bull Connor, member of the Democratic Party, has been in his grave for decades. Nevertheless, a lot of people depend on the organization for their livelihood. They want the good times to roll around forever. It therefore behooves them to find something to constantly scare their donors. The unemployment lines beckon if the money stops coming into the door.
For a non-sycophantic interview of Mark Potok of the SPLC download this podcast
http://tinyurl.com/28zdqsy
And so a political enemies list from a crackpot communist 5th columnist group means exactly what?
I’m surprised Dees and his band of paranoid commies gets anything more than mocked by the legitimate media.
The so-called legitimate media is in deep trouble. Many journalists are threatened with unemployment in the near future. They do not want to burn their bridges with the left-wing nonprofits—which are rumored to often pay very well!
Some years ago I listened to an interview with a young man who’d just become the head honcho of the Sierra Club. What struck me was his frequently repeated references to his organization’s role in the “advocacy INDUSTRY”.
Seriously folks, the SPLC, and so many, many other liberal advocacy groups are no different than, say, Proctor and Gamble or Coke or Nike. Creating a market for their products, and making sure of the cash flow.
And if they’re an industry, they have to have workers. So, when are we going to go ’round to SPLC headquarters to demand that the workers join the SEIU? Huh ?
Let’s see: “militias” have been around for a couple of decades. Have any of you noticed any armed insurrections led by these people?
Damn. Didn’t make the list. Gonna have to step up my hate speech …
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
[For a light hearted take on our present peril]
I think it is becoming clear that the SPLC and Bill Clinton are at the forefront of an emerging movement that can only be described as dangerous and fueling unstable anti-American elements in this country.
As I’ve often said, just because an organization is “non-profit” doesn’t mean nobody’s making money. And that’s true across the spectrum, and beyond the world of “advocacy.” A political campaign is not a for-profit enterprise, but you can drive through Northern Virginia and see the McMansions of campaign consultants who got paid very handsomely for their work on losing campaigns. (The 1996 Dole presidential campaign was especially a bonanza for the GOP consultants.)
Many 501(c) operations rake in millions a year in contributions and pay their top officers a low-six-figure salary (usually something in the neighborhood of $200,000) and people think that’s OK. But the salary of the president or executive director doesn’t reflect the value of perks like travel expenses. Some of these non-profit people travel frequently to conferences at resorts and bill everything to the organization.
“Connections between people who’ve never met — some of whom vehemently disagree with each other — are ‘crystal clear’?”
Well, in one sense, yes. All those individuals – most of whom are radically mistaken about one thing or another – are perceived by Ms. Beirich, and not unreasonably, as being pro-freedom. They regard the current Federal Government, completely correctly, as the major barrier, if not active destroyer, to individual freedom.
She’s right to be concerned. The pro-freedom movement is a real threat to everything she advocates, and becoming more so every day.
It appears the fight is in the open now. It is called Nationalism vs Globalism.
The Globalists hate Israel, Christianty, and an armed public. Plus, they love abortion, Marxism, drugs, a North American union, and increasing taxes.
The Nationalists, like myself, believe America is one country of laws, the Constitution is not a living document, supports Israel, works for a living. Plus, a lot of Nationalists beg G-d the Father to forgive thiem of their sins in Christ’s name, while clinging to their guns, and religion.
Pick a side!
You just made up two definitions to fit your delusions. Your a crackpot. You belong on the list.
Nationalization- Takeover of a private company’s assets or operations by a government. The company may or may not be compensated for the loss of assets. In developing nations, an operation is typically nationalized if the government feels the company is exploiting the host country and exporting too high a proportion of the profits. By nationalizing the firm, the government hopes to keep profits at home. In developed countries, industries are often nationalized when they need government subsidies to survive. For instance, the French government nationalized steel and chemical companies in the mid-1980s in order to preserve jobs that would have disappeared if free market forces had prevailed. In some developed countries, however, nationalization is carried out as a form of national policy, often by Socialist governments, and is not designed to rescue ailing industries.
Globalization-Name for the process of increasing the connectivity and interdependence of the world’s markets and businesses. This process has sped up dramatically in the last two decades as technological advances make it easier for people to travel, communicate, and do business internationally.
You can’t just make stuff up.
Dear poorly educated,
Nationalization is not the same as being nationalist. The spelling should give that away be clearly it wasn’t enough for you.
As for globalism their are meaning different meaning for it and leatherneck is one of the more common meanings.
Delusions? The truth is hardly a delusion.
The American government is not doing the will of the people, has increased entitlements, and continues to support terrorist organizations over Israel. It appears the CFR play book is being used.
A Nationalist is someone that supports the country they are born into. Secular humanism, moon god worship, and illegal aliens work hard to destroy America. They are not Nationalists.
Fox in tank, you are a Troll, aka lefturd/tard.
The globalists with Bilderberg are the ones who work with zionist (zionists are the fake jews) Israel a lot and the nationalists on the other hand mainly the tea partiers haven’t learned how to and why to boycott Israel yet but do see the truth why for yourself at the following links below if you like and please try to tell as many people as you can.Thank You.
http://www.inminds.com
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com
http://www.american3p.org
If on the list, can you sue the So Po Lo Co?
The press has been in the bag for the leftist/socialist/communist agenda for decades. You won’t see the press excoriate the SPLC, in fact they will applaud the SPLC’s efforts. Any time a conservative organization or person tries to expose the leftist agenda in these progressive organizations, the press will ridicule them without doing ANY kind of investigative reporting. Basically the leftist group will hand the MSM their talking points and the press will just run with it reporting it as the gospel truth. Just think back to when McCarthy was trying to expose the communists in the Eisenhower administration. He was lambasted by such republican news agancies as Time, Life, and Collier Magazines as well as the NYT and the Saturday Evening Post, the magazine started by none other than Ben Franklin himself.
The Southern Poverity Law Center are divisive fearmongers, who villify whitey, and scare black Americans into giving them money, which they pay themselves well with and spend mostly on fundraising, which consists of fearmongering black Americans.
They are a shameless racket. If they had a shred of decency, they would cease and desist.
SPLC is a 501 (c)3 org which means they CANNOT do political work. I suggest in the next Republican run Congress, we question their non-profit status and if the SPLC cannot convince 218 Republican Congressmen and 51 Republican senators, they lose their 501 (c)3 status.
Write the GOP House and Senate leadership on this today to prep for 2011.
Game on!
Add me to the list. I am one of those Bible- thumping, gun-loving, rightwing , terrorist extremists who goes to work everyday.DON’T tread on me!!
SPLC is and always has been a scam to shake down liberal donors. Their first and still ongoing project was “tracking KKK activity nationwide.” Now, many of you may have noticed that the KKK has not exactly been a growth industry in the past 40 years. Not to mention there was already an organization tracking KKK activity with better resources than the SPLC ever dreamed of having. We call them the “FBI.”
SPLC donors also have a common name. We call them the “Suckers.”
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a wacko conspiracy group.
Conspiracy? Yep, there certainly is one, but it’s leaders are Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Soros, et.al., who are working as hard and as fast as they can to turn the USA into the USSA (United Socialist States of America).
Conservatives have to be isolated in the eyes of the public. Therefore the extensive smear campaign will continue and lead to the unavoidable state of emergency needed to deal with all these dangerous extremists.
This guy Potok’s been a running lefty Chicken Little joke ever since Obama’s election. “Patriots and Righties and Palin, oh my! How many times has his anti-Tea Party CRAP been disproved beyond a doubt? Never mind a reasonable one? We should rename SPLC “The Southern Poverty of Truth Center” LOL!
I’d like to add that the Southern Poverty Law Center has launched a smear campaign against Massachusetts parents who oppose pro-gay educational material developed by gay activists for the public schools. The group, Mass Resistance, has documented the activities of the Kevin Jennings, Obama’s “safe sex czar”in pushing “how-to” instruction on sex for Massachusetts children. The groups URL is: massresistance.blogspot.com (note that “activists” have reported the organization as a hate group). And for a picture of the Southern Poverty Law Center in action, here is a story that notes how the SPLC smeared a group of parents in Concord, MA, who objected to a highly sexualized high school play, “Falsettos” — http://www.wickedlocal.com/concord/news/education/x2086037893/CCHSs-Falsettos-creates-controversial-buzz.
Want a snapshot of the Southern Poverty Law Center in action? Take a look at this article on a high school play put on in Concord, Mass., last winter. The play, “Falsettos,” was about a family torn apart by the father’s gay lifestyle, and includes sexually provocative scenes. (The play’s gay author was astonished that a high school would host a production of his work.) http://www.wickedlocal.com/concord/news/education/x2086037893/CCHSs-Falsettos-creates-controversial-buzz
Upset parents turned to a local group, Mass Resistance, for help — and for their efforts were smeared as members of a hate group. Mass Resistance has been active in revealing the activities of Kevin Jennings, a former Massachusetts teacher who is Obama’s safe-sex czar, and the man at the center of the “Fistgate” controversy. Now Mass Resistance has been labeled a hate group by SPLC and others (try to get to their website, targeted by activisits!) http://massresistance.blogspot.com/
So the SPLC is eager to stifle the free speech of parents who object to material on religious and moral grounds…
This just reinforces my belief that the Left has a morbid fear of mere criticism. Death threats from Islamists? Ho-hum. Criticism? Run for your lives!
Indeed, some of the signs the t-party people carry and some of the things that are said by them and some of these militia’s are scary, if not dangerous, to the untrained eye (or ear?). However, people tend to forget that no matter the cause, or the side, passions run high and people are passionate. I do not see any danger with 98% of right wing movements and/or militia’s and I think this Southern law center is over re-acting. And some on the now, mainstream left, are downright paranoid. They should chill out. It is rather strange though because I remember in the 60′s how much the right wing feared the anti-war folks calling them “dangerous”. Now it is the other way around. But then, China and Russia were not our friends back then either. My, how the world has changed…. now where did I put my “peace now” flag?
Only if you believe that all opposition to the left wing agenda is by definition scary.
The rational portion of the population doesn’t see it that way.
Bleish says she’s not sure why the SPLC — which typically monitors hate groups like the KKK and the Aryan Nations — is now targeting libertarians like herself.
The answer is simple: The SPLC defines intolerance and is a non-voilent hate group. Although, I suspect they have no problem with violent acts committed against their enemies. I’ve never heard of them taking up the cause of anyone who falls outside the SPLC realm of acceptable beliefs.
Where does such inflammatory language go from being Fair Comment to Libel? Aside from fraud (and libel and slander cross into that when they go into this area), incitement to specific crimes and such, I’m free speech absolutist but the tone is definitely approaching such a line. I suspect the line is crossed beyond-reaonsble-doubt when law enforcement acts on it or someone unjustly losses a tangible value (e.g., a job)… *Real* legal opinions would be welcome.
I read most of your comments and no one has said it so I will.
[No you won't. Boy, do you have the wrong vampires. -- Ed.]
Maybe it would be better if you took your irrational drivel and crawled back under your rock.
Great argument. I bet you were at the top of the debate class.
Posts like yours assure me I am on the right track.
This article even points out the people on the latest list have nothing in common. The article is wrong. The only thing these people ALL have in common is their dislike of the FED banks.
Conservatives are so stupid. If I were a politician I would for sure be a conservative because they are so easily duped.
Jews are ruining the USA and you people are to stupid to see it. Jews are for everything you dummies are against and they own most of the media and use it to show how stupid you people are and still you defend them. hahahahhahahaha.
Now I will take this stupid website off of my list.
Goodbye morons.
I like how you wrapped it up by mentioning the SPLC have a conspiracy theory.
True… and I didn’t see it until you mentioned it at the end.
SPLC is a bunch o flying propaganda tools.
I know this because after the OKC-based federal Murrah Building was bombed,a Newsweek cover story led to a “map” of right-wing extremist groups throughout the nation – prepared by SPLC.
It claimed there were 8 such groups in Colorado, where I live, including 4 such groups in the NE quarter, also where I live.
Over time, I had at least three libertarian (ie, anti-collectivist, anti-racist, Constitution supporting liberty lovers) friends who were members of three different purportedly “extremist” groups! In other words, SPLC has turned pro-American patriot groups who turned out most festively for Independence Day into dangerous, militant, extremists – not supporters of Second Amdendment freedoms they actually were.
IN reality, the SPLC is a dangerous propaganda group aimed at thinking rural white guys. For example, they claimed Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo was a racist – a “fact” that got into a high school textbook that was a baseless lie. Tancredo had to sue to get it changed, but gets protests based on the lie still today.
Well, this is what happens when you don’t stand up to people like Mark Potok until he’s sniffing under your own door. I’m afraid many in the Conservative and Republican movements did nothing to stop this sort of virulent allegation mongering until it hit close to home. Those who stood by silently as the SPLC, the ADL, the SCLC, CAIR, GLADD, the HRC, La RAZA and other groups insinuated their agenda into criminal justice and the schools shouldn’t feign surprise as they turn from those superannuated and fiscally tapped out arenas to target people who merely express different political views from their own.
We’ve allowed these folks to pummel schoolchildren and warp the notion of equal treatment for all for crime victims for more than a decade now (while charging us for the favor). Why wasn’t their behavior an urgent issue until a handful of conservative pundits got singled out?
“Bleish and others say that this isn’t conspiracy theory, but conspiracy reality. The name of Operation: De-Fuse is a reference the DHS ‘fusion centers’ such as the Missouri Information Analysis Center, which issued a controversial 2009 report identifying Ron Paul supporters and pro-life activists (as well as fans of Rambo movies and Tom Clancy novels) as potential terrorists.”
I have a whole shelf of Tom Clancy books, as well as Dale Brown (‘Flight of the Old Dog’) and Harold Coyle (‘Team Yankee’). Then, of course, there’s General Sir John Hackett’s ‘The Third World War: August 1985′ and ‘The Third World War: The Untold Story’. I wonder what they think about Clive Cussler?
I think I’m in trouble…
“I think our definition of what a ‘Patriot’ group is is very clear. And all these folks, to my mind, fall within that definition,” said Beirich, a Ph.D. in political science from Purdue University who has been with the SPLC since 1999. “It may not seem that way to you, but from my perspective and given our definition, I’m actually surprised that you would ask me this question. The connections are crystal clear.”
I think I could come up with a clear definition of a child molester that would also include all employees of the SPLC and their supporters too.
The splc is the biggest terrorist group in this country.
If SPLC is against Ron Paul, shouldn’t they lose their tax-exempt status?
Southern Poverty Law Center has always had a target list. The people who are on the “enemies list” now have actionable intelligence that they have been targeted. If there is a single honest judge left this should improve their standing in court and if the country survives compensation from those who give to the SPLC shall be required to provide compensaton some day.
After looking at the SPLC’s hate list, I don’t see any listing of groups like mexica movement or groups that believe in MEChA. I’ve seen reports on some of these groups and they want to eliminate whites and blacks from the entire southwest. Why are they not mentioned?