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		<title>By: Joseph Somsel</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/smart-grid-technology-obamas-smart-move-for-infrastructure-security/#comment-437636</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Somsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no!  This Shaw person has yet another article up on PJM.

Let&#039;s show some editorial standards before this place loses its reputation and its readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no!  This Shaw person has yet another article up on PJM.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s show some editorial standards before this place loses its reputation and its readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Rusty</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/smart-grid-technology-obamas-smart-move-for-infrastructure-security/#comment-437185</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Owens:
Another de-centralized organization that has the potential to be quite successful was set out in a few pages by a group of plain, honest men in Philadelphia in 1787.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Owens:<br />
Another de-centralized organization that has the potential to be quite successful was set out in a few pages by a group of plain, honest men in Philadelphia in 1787.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Perren</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/smart-grid-technology-obamas-smart-move-for-infrastructure-security/#comment-437002</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Perren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is one area where even fiscal conservatives should support loosening up the federal purse strings and pushing forward with these improvements.&quot;

No. What should be loosened up are regulations - local, state, and Federal - to allow for private companies to deliver electricity to those who wish to purchase it. Today, we have a patchwork quilt that all have the same basic purpose: to keep electricity generation, distribution, and delivery monopolized by quasi-government agencies in every locale.

Free the electricity producers and you&#039;ll have better quality, lower rates - just as is the case in every other business. Heaven help us if the idea of having food grown and delivered is every subject to the same Fascist-lite principle of combining government and business. Having no lights at night will then be the least of our problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is one area where even fiscal conservatives should support loosening up the federal purse strings and pushing forward with these improvements.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. What should be loosened up are regulations &#8211; local, state, and Federal &#8211; to allow for private companies to deliver electricity to those who wish to purchase it. Today, we have a patchwork quilt that all have the same basic purpose: to keep electricity generation, distribution, and delivery monopolized by quasi-government agencies in every locale.</p>
<p>Free the electricity producers and you&#8217;ll have better quality, lower rates &#8211; just as is the case in every other business. Heaven help us if the idea of having food grown and delivered is every subject to the same Fascist-lite principle of combining government and business. Having no lights at night will then be the least of our problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/smart-grid-technology-obamas-smart-move-for-infrastructure-security/#comment-436507</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article fits nicely with a recent report from the Congressional Research Service that says we have MORE OIL, NATURAL GAS, and COAL RESERVES than any other single nation on earth.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34233

http://epw.senate.gov/public\/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&amp;FileStore_id=f7bd7b77-ba50-48c2-a635-220d7cf8c519

&quot;The United States has largest energy reserves on Earth, according to a report from the Congressional Research Service.

As shown in the charts below (follow link above), the U.S. has 1,321 billion barrels of oil (or barrels of oil equivalent for other sources of energy) when combining its recoverable natural gas, oil and coal reserves.

While Russia is a close second with 1,248 billion barrels, other energy producing nations are far behind. No. 3 is Saudi Arabia (543 billion barrels), followed by China (494 billion barrels), Iran (426 billion barrels) and Canada (221 billion barrels.)


&quot;Our overwhelming coal, natural gas, and oil resources represent tens of trillions of dollars in wealth and millions of American jobs,” said Sen. James Inhofe (R.-Ok.), who, along with Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R.-Alaska), released the report last week. “Whether through decree or purposeful inaction, government policies that unnecessarily restrict or prevent our ability to responsibly produce these domestic resources are threatening, and could eventually undermine, our nation&#039;s economic and national security. We should pursue an all-of-the-above strategy that advances new energy technologies but also prioritizes developing the resources we have today.&quot;

The report also noted that the United States has 28% of all the world’s coal reserves, with Russia again coming in second with 19%.

In addition, the report stated that the United States has tapped into only 13% or 21 billion barrels of its oil reserves, with the other 87% still untouched.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article fits nicely with a recent report from the Congressional Research Service that says we have MORE OIL, NATURAL GAS, and COAL RESERVES than any other single nation on earth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34233" rel="nofollow">http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34233</a></p>
<p><a href="http://epw.senate.gov/public" rel="nofollow">http://epw.senate.gov/public</a>\/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&amp;FileStore_id=f7bd7b77-ba50-48c2-a635-220d7cf8c519</p>
<p>&#8220;The United States has largest energy reserves on Earth, according to a report from the Congressional Research Service.</p>
<p>As shown in the charts below (follow link above), the U.S. has 1,321 billion barrels of oil (or barrels of oil equivalent for other sources of energy) when combining its recoverable natural gas, oil and coal reserves.</p>
<p>While Russia is a close second with 1,248 billion barrels, other energy producing nations are far behind. No. 3 is Saudi Arabia (543 billion barrels), followed by China (494 billion barrels), Iran (426 billion barrels) and Canada (221 billion barrels.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Our overwhelming coal, natural gas, and oil resources represent tens of trillions of dollars in wealth and millions of American jobs,” said Sen. James Inhofe (R.-Ok.), who, along with Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R.-Alaska), released the report last week. “Whether through decree or purposeful inaction, government policies that unnecessarily restrict or prevent our ability to responsibly produce these domestic resources are threatening, and could eventually undermine, our nation&#8217;s economic and national security. We should pursue an all-of-the-above strategy that advances new energy technologies but also prioritizes developing the resources we have today.&#8221;</p>
<p>The report also noted that the United States has 28% of all the world’s coal reserves, with Russia again coming in second with 19%.</p>
<p>In addition, the report stated that the United States has tapped into only 13% or 21 billion barrels of its oil reserves, with the other 87% still untouched.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Royall</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/smart-grid-technology-obamas-smart-move-for-infrastructure-security/#comment-436493</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Royall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t trust the government to wire up a toaster much less modernize the grid.  Obama&#039;s objective is to hand out contracts to his buddies and set up the grid for wind and solar, two other taxpayer subsidized boondoggles that are total failures.  This moron Shaw doesn&#039;t seem to understand that EVERYTHING Obama does is to further his agenda and to cement Democrat power.  Therefore EVERY SINGLE INITIATIVE he embarks upon should be met with ENORMOUS SKEPTICISM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust the government to wire up a toaster much less modernize the grid.  Obama&#8217;s objective is to hand out contracts to his buddies and set up the grid for wind and solar, two other taxpayer subsidized boondoggles that are total failures.  This moron Shaw doesn&#8217;t seem to understand that EVERYTHING Obama does is to further his agenda and to cement Democrat power.  Therefore EVERY SINGLE INITIATIVE he embarks upon should be met with ENORMOUS SKEPTICISM.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Extremist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Extremist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Allegheny Power Co.&#039;s plan to begin charging customers $5.86 a month in February to pay for sophisticated electric meter technology has been nixed by the state...

Allegheny Power... wanted some of its 700,000 Western Pennsylvania customers to start using smart meters quickly because the company&#039;s state-mandated energy conservation program relies on use of such devices.

--snip--

According to the company, all customers beginning in February would pay a monthly surcharge of $5.86, which would increase to $14.34 a month by June 2011, $15.57 a month by June 2012 and $15.77 each month by June 2013.
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Nobody making under $250,000 will pay a dime more in taxes...  well...not directly to the gov&#039;t...we&#039;ll make somebody else charge you and collect money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Allegheny Power Co.&#8217;s plan to begin charging customers $5.86 a month in February to pay for sophisticated electric meter technology has been nixed by the state&#8230;</p>
<p>Allegheny Power&#8230; wanted some of its 700,000 Western Pennsylvania customers to start using smart meters quickly because the company&#8217;s state-mandated energy conservation program relies on use of such devices.</p>
<p>&#8211;snip&#8211;</p>
<p>According to the company, all customers beginning in February would pay a monthly surcharge of $5.86, which would increase to $14.34 a month by June 2011, $15.57 a month by June 2012 and $15.77 each month by June 2013.<br />
&#8211;</p>
<p>Nobody making under $250,000 will pay a dime more in taxes&#8230;  well&#8230;not directly to the gov&#8217;t&#8230;we&#8217;ll make somebody else charge you and collect money.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Centralized control of power.. why does that scene in &quot;Total Recall&quot; pop up in my head. You know the one, where The One(power hungry lib) cuts of power to the fans which provide oxygen to those small free marketeers(conservatives). 

Yeah.. obama in control of who gets electrical power is what I want... not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Centralized control of power.. why does that scene in &#8220;Total Recall&#8221; pop up in my head. You know the one, where The One(power hungry lib) cuts of power to the fans which provide oxygen to those small free marketeers(conservatives). </p>
<p>Yeah.. obama in control of who gets electrical power is what I want&#8230; not.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Report</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/smart-grid-technology-obamas-smart-move-for-infrastructure-security/#comment-436377</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Engineers with experience said,
above, summarized:
Efficiency is the enemy of Reliability
Better is the enemy of Good Enough

If the State were doing what it wants you
to think it is doing, it would _still_
be a bad idea; Power generation, and all
the other utilities and infrastructure
vital to human survival, need to be
DE-centralized, made modular, and,
on the software side at least, made
triple-redundant, using different code
for each of the three controllers in
a 2-out-of-3-vote safety circuit,
as in done in aircraft fly-by-wire
systems; Conservative old tech. :)

What I tell you three times is true:
The pyramid of power is the mark of
the Totalitarian State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Engineers with experience said,<br />
above, summarized:<br />
Efficiency is the enemy of Reliability<br />
Better is the enemy of Good Enough</p>
<p>If the State were doing what it wants you<br />
to think it is doing, it would _still_<br />
be a bad idea; Power generation, and all<br />
the other utilities and infrastructure<br />
vital to human survival, need to be<br />
DE-centralized, made modular, and,<br />
on the software side at least, made<br />
triple-redundant, using different code<br />
for each of the three controllers in<br />
a 2-out-of-3-vote safety circuit,<br />
as in done in aircraft fly-by-wire<br />
systems; Conservative old tech. <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What I tell you three times is true:<br />
The pyramid of power is the mark of<br />
the Totalitarian State.</p>
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		<title>By: Ran / Si Vis Pacem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ran / Si Vis Pacem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Owens... Yes, exactly.  [I&#039;m not sure what the decentralized DARPA model was called.]  I do know that &quot;ubiquitous computing&quot; is, in many many applications, vastly more efficient than centralized processing.  Imagine Ford, for example, running every worker&#039;s desk station and every production machine from a centralized CPU bank.  SCR3W THAT.  GE - freaking General Electric - can&#039;t adequately control it&#039;s own offices from a centralized machine - and yet that stupidity is exactly the &quot;demand control&quot; model Jazzy admires.

&lt;i&gt;Free markets&lt;/i&gt; are another example of distributed intelligence proven to be vastly superior to centralized command systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Owens&#8230; Yes, exactly.  [I'm not sure what the decentralized DARPA model was called.]  I do know that &#8220;ubiquitous computing&#8221; is, in many many applications, vastly more efficient than centralized processing.  Imagine Ford, for example, running every worker&#8217;s desk station and every production machine from a centralized CPU bank.  SCR3W THAT.  GE &#8211; freaking General Electric &#8211; can&#8217;t adequately control it&#8217;s own offices from a centralized machine &#8211; and yet that stupidity is exactly the &#8220;demand control&#8221; model Jazzy admires.</p>
<p><i>Free markets</i> are another example of distributed intelligence proven to be vastly superior to centralized command systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bolts Sr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Bolts Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...let&#039;s move our wasted stimulus dollars to our wasted &quot;smart grid&quot; technology. What part of &quot;get the federal government out of the private markets&quot; don&#039;t people understand? I don&#039;t want anything from the government, let alon a &quot;smart grid&quot; to control energy usage. I can do that quite nicely: if it gets too hot I&#039;ll jack up the A/C and vice versa. Don&#039;t need some computerized bureaucrat to do it for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;let&#8217;s move our wasted stimulus dollars to our wasted &#8220;smart grid&#8221; technology. What part of &#8220;get the federal government out of the private markets&#8221; don&#8217;t people understand? I don&#8217;t want anything from the government, let alon a &#8220;smart grid&#8221; to control energy usage. I can do that quite nicely: if it gets too hot I&#8217;ll jack up the A/C and vice versa. Don&#8217;t need some computerized bureaucrat to do it for me.</p>
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