Peter the Bubblehead:

“Like how in the latest survey, over 50% of the American public is AGAINST Obamacare while less than 25% are for it.”

Obama made it pretty clear what he wanted to do with healthcare in his campaign, and he won the election on that platform. Prior to that, every credible survey showed majority public support for a public health system – in one survey, even a system “like canada’s”.

I’m sorry, but I actually just don’t believe that the american population has swung that suddenly, or that hard, against something that they’ve apparently been wanting for decades.

Obama is actually trying to do what he was elected to do. The F.U.D. machine has been running at full tilt to try to scare people into thinking that granny’s gonna get fried (no, granny isn’t) but once the bill is passed (which I hope that it will be) then that noise will abate and people will actually get a chance to find out what it is that congress has been up to. If that happens soon enough, then obama should be safe to win the next election.

The second sentence SHOULD have read…
Like how in the latest survey, over 50% of the American public is AGAINST Obamacare while less than 25% are for it.

Sorry if I caused confusion.

Peter writes: Yes, the WILL of the Voters. Like how in the latest survey, over 50% of the American public is not AGAINST Obamacare while less than 25% are for it.

Just because 59 idiots with a (-D) behind their names are willing to throw their careers down the toilet by voting with their party instead of what their constituents (you know, the people these idiots are supposed to be WORKING FOR, not trying to RULE), doesn’t mean the WILL OF THE PEOPLE can be ignored.

“The idea that Obama and Congressional Democrats have a “socialist agenda” would be laughable, if it weren’t so persuasive to so many American morons. Which is all you people are.”

By all means, keep going down that road. Keep repeating the mantra that those who disagree with the current progressives are simply morons. Keep patronizing the bulk of this country. That’s right – we’re all too stupid to know what’s good for us and we really really NEED the progressive elites to watch over us. In fact, I think you guys need to ratchet it up a notch or so…..go ahead, crank it up to 11. The MA vote just PROVES how stupid we all are. What we all need are even MORE teabag references.

Just don’t be surprised at the reaction come November.

“Because the dems lost 1 senate seat, public opinion is now 100% against health care reform and if the dems force it through it is against the will of the poeple, interesting argument. Suggest reviewing ‘US politics 1.01′ again to understand that 59 senotors still make a majority.”

Yes, the dems lost 1 senate seat. A senate seat in arguably the BLUEST state in the Union. No one has suggested that public opinion is 100% against (or for) anything. What IS being suggested is that other Democratic congressman may consider the fact that if a Democrat can lose in MA, Democrats can lose anywhere. ANYWHERE.

And that is making Democrats in districts where they are ALREADY FEELING the heat (which is only likely to get hotter after last night’s MA election) slightly nervous about acting as though Brown’s election is meaningless.

I suggest reviewing ‘Critical Thinking 101′ again to understand that politics is not just about which party currently seats a majority. Or perhaps critical thinking……

so, let me get this straight. Because the dems lost 1 senate seat, public opinion is now 100% against health care reform and if the dems force it through it is against the will of the poeple, interesting argument. Suggest reviewing ‘US politics 1.01′ again to understand that 59 senotors still make a majority. Of perhaps mathematics….

Chapter 54: Section 116.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/54-116.htm

…which in pertinent part states:

“The governor shall issue certificates of election to such persons as appear to be chosen to the offices of senator in congress…which shall be countersigned and transmitted by the state secretary…provided, however, that such certification may be made…or certificate issued on or after the seventh day following a special state election [unless a recount is requested by another candidate].”

So, Brown won by 5 percentage points or so, well above the 1/2 of 1% (or less) threshold for a recount in Massachusetts. And Coakley has conceeded.

(2) Applied-for but not-yet-received Uniformed Overseas Citizen Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA) ballots:

“Voted ballots for general and special state elections must be …postmarked by Election Day and received by the local election official no later than 10 days after the election for all voters overseas.”

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/elemil/milidx.htm

Galvin got in trouble before for failing to count them:

Justice Department Reaches Settlement with Massachusetts Secretary of State for Noncompliance with Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act

“… Massachusetts has failed to fulfill this important legal obligation since UOCAVA was enacted in 2002.”

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2008/October/08-crt-943.html

Since the “the settlement agreement requires the Secretary of State to implement procedures to facilitate the collection and reporting of data regarding absentee ballots transmitted, returned and cast by overseas citizens, including members of the armed forces casting absentee ballots.”, Galvin can find out how many of these weren’t returned by, say, 5 days after the election.

He can call for submission of final results, plus the number of
applied-for-but-not-yet-received absentee overseas ballots that might possibly still come in.

If adding that number (probably a miniscule amount)to Coakley’s total doesn’t get her into the ballgame, there would appear to be no bar for Patrick and Galvin signing off that Brown “appears to be chosen” on Brown’s election certificate at 5PM on January 26th.

The certificate could note that the (immaterialy different)true final totals would be sent later on as an addendum.

Unlike the House, the Senate requires a certificate before a winner can be sworn in.

Patrick and Galvin certainly aren’t compelled to reconcile the conflicting statutes in this fashion, but now they probably want to show what wonderful fellows they are now that the jig is up.

The State of the Union Address is January 27. Will the cameras catch Scott Brown arriving in his truck?

Stay tooned.