Silent Support: Unpolled Spanish Speakers May Have Romney Up in Florida
I put the question of polling in Spanish to Doug Kaplan of Gravis Marketing, whose recent Florida poll had Romney ahead by a margin of 48% to 47%. Kaplan:
That is not how we have polled previously; we have only polled in English.
Similarly I reached out to PPP and have not received a reply. I suspect their answer would be similar to that of Gravis Marketing. To be fair, Kaplan said he was open to running such a poll. But the fact remains that a substantial portion of Florida voters with conservative tendencies are not currently being counted by the major polls.
The PPP poll can be instructional to the Romney campaign in that it shows Florida voters have developed a great appreciation for Senator Marco Rubio, who received a bounce from the GOP convention even if Romney himself didn’t. He currently enjoys job approval from 51% of Floridians sampled: 52% among women, and 54% among Hispanics. He is probably even more popular among Spanish-preferring Hispanics not captured in the poll. Fully bilingual and the son of a bartender, Rubio is the perfect surrogate to reach such voters, and Romney should use him often in Spanish-language advertising and press opportunities.
There are good reasons to believe that Governor Romney is actually leading Obama in Florida thanks to conservative Hispanic voters who tend to speak only or mostly Spanish, and a sure way to appeal to all Hispanics is with a message of entrepreneurship, opportunity, and family.
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The Hispanic people are a solid,family oriented, God fearing people who have Proven their bravery and worthiness just by GETTING HERE! I can almost see hugobamas army of Orcs frantically trying to hand them welfare checks!Ive never completed a 500 piece puzzle but even i can tell that they dont fit in well with slippery,one child,herd travelers, who cant change a tire or throw a baseball. A liberal Orchestra from old east Germany whos off key chorus sings a far left version of a coke commercial.Fake White Socks fans{just dont ask them to name names}.Unfortunately Romney is much too white to concoct an effective October Surprise,but would allow our Marines to use bullets! I am a born gardener,so in the morning when im out there and in need of a liberal to argue with and quote Milton Friedman to, i simply flip over a rock!
I believe that Florida’s Cuban-American community is the sleeping giant that will surprise everybody in November. They are very conservative, and Obama scares them. Many of them are second and third generation Americans whose parents and grandparents risked their lives to come here and escape the kind of socialism that Obama is trying to force on America. Some of them had relatives who didn’t make it to The Land Of The Free because they were lost at sea, and their parents and grandparents will never, ever let them forget it. The ones I have spoken to are very enthusiastic about the coming election, and there are millions of them.
Obama’s EPA recently honored communist Che Guevara who was an instrumental figure in the Cuban revolution.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/epa-honors-hispanic-heritage-month-with-poster-of
I’m afraid we are grasping at straws by this point. For better or worse, Spanish-speakers don’t vote all that much. The networks seem to have become even more biased since the 2008 campaign, if that’s possible. Poor Romney never had a chance.
Gosh Stan S., what else can your time travel tell about the future?
Anyway, your Concern is quite touching.
Thats simple not true. Spanish dominant Hispanics in Florida tend to be older, Cuban and conservative. That’s why there are 3 cuban republican congressmen (one is actually a woman) from dade county.
That’s Dade County. Are you sure about the rest of the state? The west coast is primarily Mexican descent, as is central, north, and panhandle. And the numbers are very bad for Republicans there.
I propose that we don’t have the data. I’m watching leftist activist groups organizing here (central west coast). We need to get our message out. I’m sitting down with my conservative Mexican-American friends today. We all need to be doing this ASAP.
Sorry Stan, we Hispanics vote a lot. Conservatives and independants are not out banging pots and pans in the streets like others. Ask any Hispanic. Our families did not make life sacrifices to get here and draw a stupid check.
You will never ever see a Hispanic panhandler….but you may see Hispanics searching for work.
Its about the economy.
Uhhhh…….NO.
“The president leads Romney 66%-25% among more than 1,000 Latino registered voters surveyed April 16 to May 31, matching his muscular showing in the 2008 election among Hispanics. Romney is in the weakest position among Latinos of any presidential contender since 1996 — and in those intervening 16 years their percentage of the electorate has doubled.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-06-24/Hispanic-voters-Obama-Romney-election/55796866/1
Hmmmm…. Successful breeding in a Cesspool. Not bad Pee.
Next up?
Was that a response, or did your cat jump up on your keyboard?
The column was about Florida.
Oiga bubbas, this is about Florida and legal resident hispanic voters, not a general survey of Maybe voters in New York.
Hispanic, Mikey, not Latinos.
“Hispanics” are immigrants from Latin America and their descendants. Some came here as refugees from pre-Obamist tyrannies, others for the economic opportunities that a pre-Obamist America offered, but all were determined to succeed and to strength the country that took them in.
“Latino”, on the other hand, is a DemoKKKrat code word for “Mexican illegal”.
That ward heelers driving around with bottles of tequila can get cholos to tell pollsters whatever they want to hear is not surprising. What is surprising that even you would think — if that word can be applied to you — that anyone doesn’t already know that.
Any poll that has R down 18% among Cubans should be discounted.
Maybe they really thought Rubio deserved the VP slot. Once you get past the original ’59er crowd and their descendants, the Marielito and newer Cubans are far less tied to the Republican party or even to conservative policies. Ryan better deliver some BIG TEN states – him and Akin cost the Senate and some House.
Hispanics are not a monothilic bloc as many liberals would have us believe. I think local issues predominate–ie immigration is more an issue in New Mexico, whereas Cuba is more of an issue in FL.
Look at the bigger picture of this election, however: if R is up (or close to) O coming into the debates, I think O is going to lose. He’ll be outspent, as his cash burn rate is much higher than R. The challenger always gets a boost just by being in the same room, allowing a true visual head to head comparison. FInally undecideds do always break for the challenger, and this is problematic for an incumbent under 50%.
O strategy isn’t a bad one. In fact, it’s probably the only one. Try to generate as much uncertainty about R as possible, as early as possible, and try to get as many people to vote early if possible to minimize October’s impact. With this, run from Obamacare and the economy while asking R to be as specific as possible so he can be attacked and add to the uncertainty. Trumpet as many negative polls as possible to sow uncertainty amongst the electorate about R’s competence in running his campaign.
This may be a close run thing, but I don’t think it will work. The anti-O sentiment is just too strong this year. This is shaping up to be 2010, even though a lot of us don’t quite realize it yet.
This is going to be the easiest victory for the Democrats since Clinton v Dole. Just look at the electoral college numbers. Most people see Romney as the problem, not the solution. All you have to do is look at him. He looks like an elitist, corporate raiding, tax evading, Old Boy Network rich guy who has absolutely no idea what life is like for people living paycheck-to-paycheck. Absolutely the worst possible image the Republicans could project at a time like this.
Nice try. People vote their pocketbook and they vote on competence. If they were that turned off by R, O would be up by a lot more. Convention bounce? Read Rassmussen? If its close come 10-1, O is done. MI and PA are closer than you think. If O was so confident, why the giant 4-1 ad buy around the convention by O?
In an economy with 5% unemployment your points are valid. unfortunately, we don’t have 5% unemployment, and we have a lot of people pissed off at O. His floor is about 201 EVs, and I really don’t see him getting much more than that. Maybe he squeaks by in PA, but that’s it.
Yeah, because when I think of economic competence, I think of a guy who made his money leveraging debt against American companies and shipping American jobs overseas. The only people who think Romney is competent on the economy are people who are willfully ignorant of his career at Bain.
hey mr. talking points. how does it feel to be such a dupe?
Now, now Pee, you should flush yourself down the meme hole before you drink from the Modern Liberal Whitehouse Wishing Well.
When I look at the electoral college numbers, I see Obama ahead, but way short of 270, with more than enough tossups to take it either way. I think it is likely that all of the tossups will break in the same direction, so if Romney wins Florida, Ohio and Virginia, he’s in pretty good shape.
I would also point out that Obama & Co are not acting like people who think this thing is anywhere close to being a lock, and the polls that THEY see are way better than the crap that gets published online.
Just sayin’
Typical liberal: all you care about is looks and ignore performance, experience and platform…..that’s why you voted for Obama.
Who do you see as fulfilling the role of Ross Perot in saving the Newspaper from getting various parts of his anatomy handed to him?
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I don’t think it’s going to matter. With the post-RNC boost turning into a divot, and the post-DNC boost as advertised, I have very little hope for Romney this time around.
If he plays his cards well, he could easily be a contender in four years, though. He hasn’t made himself unelectable.
Really? Care to elaborate? I guess the polls which correctly model the current electorate (today’s Rassmussen) must be wrong. With this much discontent for the incumbent, all the challenger has to do is show up at the debate and be a breathing human being. If he looks at all like a president, the incumbent is toast.
Think 1980.
I do remember 1980. I remember Carter being embarrassed and looking ineffectual, and I remember Reagan pulling a swifty to look Presidential.
Well, Obama ain’t Carter and Romney sure as heck ain’t Reagan. And Rasmussen, just like every pollster in all of history, is full of it.
Obama isn’t the disaster the right likes to portray him as. Romney isn’t the deluded, out of touch money-man the left likes to portray HIM as. But unless he can get out there and drive home some solid shots, all the people are going to hear is “I got nothing” while Obama can say “I passed a bill giving everyone health care”.
Positive beats negative.
You’re right. Even with his Alzheimer’s, Carter would be an improvement.
And btw. They’ve cancelled the bomb scare. You can go back to class now.
He passed a bill half the country hates. Try harder.
Keep telling yourself “half the country” hates it. It’s a polarising issue, but nowhere near as bad as that…and a lot of the coutry loves it to bits.
Anyway, I hated virtually every policy Bush jr. made, but I still voted for his second term. Why? Because bad as he was (and he was truly awful) Kerry was a disaster in human form, a President who couldn’t lead, couldn’t follow and didn’t know enough to get out of the way. Sometimes the capacity to actually DO is the most important aspect. Obama got the Affordable Care Act through despite MASSIVE opposition. The ACA is pretty bad – but it shows that Obama can do.
I have yet to see any evidence that Romney can do anything but be a good businessman. That’s a good thing to be, but it’s not enough to be President.
Well I also remember 1980 and Carter was a disaster. Whats worse is Obama is making Carter look good. Reagan didn’t become Reagan before the election, perhaps you forgot who the media portrayed him as some whacko who would start a nuclear war with the Soviets. Just looking at the events occurring in the Middle East once again confirms that president downgrade has yet again managed to downgrade the US in foreign policy. Everything they touch, the party of downgrade has managed to yet again downgrade. Romney doesn’t have to be another Reagan, it’s enough that he isn’t another president downgrade.
Dont pay attention to the concern troll Kevin R. Cross.
Pay no attention to the troll.
Romney: ‘Middle Income’ Is Between $200,000 and $250,000 By The Associated Press Posted 09/14/12
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/09/14/romney-middle-income-between-200k-and-250k/?ncid=webmail23
Three words folks, watch your wallets!
LOL and you have no concerns about Obama reaching into your pocket? You just took a 39% income cut under Obama and starting next week, Helicopter Bernanke is going to take another 5% out of your paycheck. Whree do you think they get the printed money from? It comes out of hte value of hte dollar, therefore you are now making less as Obama inflates Wall Street to make it look good.
Romney will remove the loopholes on your ‘rich’ and lower the tax rate so small business can keep more. The ‘rich’ will be forced to pay their full share instead of Zero or hiding under Warren Buffets tax exempt products.
Obama wants to raise the rates on income AND capital gains and keep loopholes for rich. Small business will paymore taxes and so will Grandma on her monthly pension check. No one will invest or save anymore. This is the same stupid move Carter made.
Save the middle class by stopping spending all our money, stop printing the dollar. Printing has made our paychecks worthless by the time we leave work and get to the bank.
10, no its not BETWEEEN that he said. Romney said the highest level of the middle class is between those numbers:
MITT ROMNEY: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less.… So number one, don’t reduce- or excuse me, don’t raise taxes on middle-income people, lower them. Number two, don’t reduce the share of taxes paid by the wealthiest
Public Policy Polling is a joke. They have long been recognized as a Democrat Party booster here in Arizona for many many years – (pre Clinton) – and are thus dismissed as unreliable.
Last week they claimed a similar bogus result in our current Senate race, claiming the largely unknown Richard Carmona to be running @ 47% to Jeff Flake’s 48%.
Flakes internals have their man up between 20 to 26%!
Besides Carmona being a largely unknown (statewide) pol who has never run for statewide office, he’s likewise a Tucson Dem. What is know about him? As a former Surgeon Gen under W, he’s was openly recruited by Obama AND stumped for Obamacare.
PPP is a classic example of the one-sided MSM echo chamber – get +8 to +16 Dem polls distributed via the chamber as ‘valid’ and push pull it to death….
Yet another sign of progressive desperation in this cycle, which is actually a good thing. Let them implode in their self-delusion that if they spend millions on Telemundo & Spanish Radio they can siwing this thing….
total crap.
Half of the demographic they aim at CONSIDER THEMSELVES WHITE!…as they comprise of mixed race couples who marry interracial….
The so-called ‘swing’ vote as far as latinos – (Fla, Va, NC, ) – is the biggest delusion since the youth vote was going to put McGovern in the WH.
Romney has as good of chance at winning as Henry does being called El Flaco!!
http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/
It’s over. The last election Intrade only missed 2 of 50 (or 57) states.
Dick, you need to get off of that grass that your are smoking, because is not good to your brain fella…..I can tell you one thing if Republicans show up to vote Obama will not have a chance believe me…….our side is more fired up this time around……I can not see another 4 year of this commie because he will destroy this country, just think: New Supreme Court Justices, obamacare, more Executive orders, more Zsars, EPA destroying what is left of coal and natural gas, less oil production, more corruption, and I can go on and on…….I hope you guys get this.
Oh by the way I am hispanic who lives in NC and I also have a lot Hispanic friends and they CAN’T stand this commie in the White House and they also can’t wait to vote him out.
Mike, pendejocito, if you’re so confident, then bet some of the $400 a week you make. You could triple your money.
Pretty rich coming from someone who is probably a moocher. But good ahead and delude yourself. Hey when 72% of peopled polled say the economy is their primary consideration in voting, well that doesn’t exactly cut in the favor of president and party of downgrades.
Look Dick Schlong, Even Hispanics see what Barry Sotero is all about this time around.
@ DICK, nope brainless I don’t make $400 a week but 2,500…..either you are a pay troll from the Obama camp or your brain just finished frying the last brain cell you have left…..Pity….Maricon!!
There is no such thing as an “Hispanic Vote”. People who’s first language is Spanish have their origins in Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, South America, and the islands. A dozen different cultures and a dozen ideologies. Three or four races, and several combinations thereof. To lump all Hispanic-Americans together as one group is an insult to both their cultural heritages and ours.
Intrade is extremely volatile. Anyone quoting intrade 7 weeks out from the election is doing so unwisely.
Where are you Marco Rubio? We need Marco to be out and about much more in the drive to unseat The Chosen One”
I live in Florida, and the Hispanic vote is heavily influenced by values and economy. There is a difference among different groups and the Cubans here tend to lean Republican. Many of them have horror stories about Castro’s Cuba. His big issue in Fl will be the college students, they are just not “feeling it” this election.