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SHUTDOWN: GOP Downgrades Obamacare Provision But Dems Still Won’t Negotiate

"Tonight, we have more proof that House Republicans have lost their minds," Harry Reid declares as he refuses to go to conference.

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Bridget Johnson

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September 30, 2013 - 9:06 pm
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WASHINGTON — With each compromise House Republicans tried on the continuing budget resolution — scaling back each time the degree to which Obamacare would be affected — Democrats refused to talk as the fiscal year drew to an end.

Last week, the Senate rejected the first CR containing a full Obamacare repeal.

As the Senate leisurely convened Monday afternoon, it took up the revised bill passed by the House on Saturday night to delay the implementation of Obamacare by a year and permanently repeal the medical device tax. The upper chamber tabled that on a 54-46 vote.

On Monday evening, the House came back with its Plan C: a yearlong delay of the individual mandate of Obamacare, attached to the CR.

“I talked to the president earlier tonight, ‘I’m not going to negotiate, I’m not going to negotiate, I’m not going to do this.’ Well, I would say to the president: this is not about me, and it’s not about Republicans here in Congress. It’s about fairness for the American people,” House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said on the floor.

“So the bill before us is very simple. It funds the government and it says, ‘let’s treat our constituents fairly.’ No more mandate for the next year that you have to buy insurance that you can’t afford. No more mandate that members of Congress get some so-called exemption. Both, those are the only two issues here. All the Senate has to do is say yes and the government’s funded tomorrow,” he continued. “Let’s listen to our constituents and let’s treat them the way we would want to be treated.”

That 228-201 vote chipped away at Republican unity in the caucus, with 12 GOPs voting against the revised bill and nine Democrats crossing over to join the GOP.

Republicans voting against it were Reps. Michele Bachmann (Minn.), Joe Barton (Texas), Paul Broun (Ga.), Mario Diaz Balart (Fla.), Charlie Dent (Pa.), Phil Gingrey (Ga.), Louie Gohmert (Texas), Kay Granger (Texas), Peter King (N.Y.), Steve King (Iowa.), Tom Massie (Ky.) and Mike Rogers (Ala.).

The “no” votes came from conservatives who didn’t want to back away from blocking Obamacare, and Republicans — including Dent and Peter King — who wanted to pass a clean CR and fight about Obamacare fixes later. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) issued a statement before the vote: “I have repeatedly stated that I will not vote for a CR that funds Obamacare, and I trust House conservatives to continue to listen to the people and act to prevent the Obamacare train wreck.”

It took the Senate a matter of minutes to bring that version to the floor and vote on party lines, 54-46, to kill it.

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See, here's the thing - back in 2009, when Obama and the Democrats wanted to pass the Affordable Care Act, the responsible thing to do would have been to: 1) Lay out the cost of this massive new federal program in a formal budget proposal, and let that be considered along with the law, and 2) Work out some compromises so that the law could enjoy at least some bi-partisan support.

Not only did they NOT disclose any of the costs in a budget, but for the next three years they did not propose or vote on any budgets. Instead, they sped the bill through Congress on a party-line vote, with many Democrats voting for this bill without even reading it - or as then Speaker Pelosi was famous for saying - "We have to pass this to find out what's in it".

Funding by continuing resolution is only happening now because the Democrasts abandoned the tradtional budget processes in order to get this enacted. When the GOP got locked out of having any say on this bill back in 2009, the voters reacted by giving them control of the House in 2012. So now, since the costs of Obamacare were NOT previously authorized under a duly passed budget (God forbid they should have allowed the voters to see that before the election), it becomes fair game for the House to use its "power of the purse" as a leverage to get some of the negotiations, compromises, and budget considersations, all of which should have occurred back in 2009.
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In case nobody has already said it, the government isn't "closed" right now. Funding is complicated. Government contracts are complicated. Some agencies have pools of money available for continued operation. Some multi-year contracts have already been paid for.

So it's not like Washington is locking the doors and shuttering the windows. Judging by this morning's rush hour, I'd say most Federal personnel DID come to work this morning.

A true shutdown, if it occurs, will take days, weeks, or months to complete. If we're lucky(?), the President and Congress will stop going full retard before we get to that point.

On the other hand, it would be interesting if - like the sequester - the shutdown happened and then...nothing much happened. Mind you, I wouldn't like to get furloughed. It would be inconvenient. But as a conservative I'm curious to find out how LITTLE government we can have and still function as a nation.

50 weeks ago
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Let me get this straight:

When Mr. Obama *illegally* grants his fat-stacks-of-cash rich fat cat corporate sponsors and big labor bosses a 1 year reprieve from the "affordable care act", that's perfectly acceptable.

However when the House Republicans tried to *legally* extend the same grace period to hard working middle class Americans (the people who are going to really take it in the shorts when the bill is fully implemented), while removing Congress's own exemption from the law, they're a bunch of anarchist terrorist bullies who are "illegally" taking the Federal government hostage.

(What's wrong, "Barry," do you love your rich friends more than middle-class Americans?)

Mr. Obama and Harry Reid have said numerous times that they are obstinately refusing to negotiate with the Republicans on this matter, and this is apparently okay.

Meanwhile, the Republicans have conceded several key issues in an attempt to reach a middle-ground with the entrenched Democrats, but *they're* the obstructionists.

Somehow people still wonder why we cry foul about media bias?
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To get rid of obamacare there are only two choices. Either vote for a Democrat who swears to oppose it or vote for a Republican who swears to oppose it. For those who refuse to vote you are requesting that you be taxed to support others and you will still have to buy your own health insurance. This is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme brought to you by a Chicago punk.
50 weeks ago
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my co-worker's sister makes $78 every hour on the computer. She has been laid off for six months but last month her pay was $21376 just working on the computer for a few hours. i was reading this------>> WWW.Rush64.COM
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If the Democrats hadn't exempted themselves from this mess, all that would be necessary for repeal would be to force them to "shop" for "affordable" medical coverage like the rest of us sheep and learn the horrible truth - it is insanely expensive and coverage is limited. Support for this awful bill would evaporate in seconds.
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It is time to reset the entire game now!!
Now the only acceptable CR is one with complete defunding and abolishment of ObamaCare and a bill to Prosecute Obama for his bribery of two States in the original passing of the Bill..... Bribery is against the laws of Congress and it is time to bring Obama before the bar..... Get it done!!
Bohner this is you time to shine so get out the polish!!
50 weeks ago
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“We urge Congress to act quickly to pass a Continuing Resolution to provide a short-term bridge that ensures sufficient time to pass a budget for the remainder of the fiscal year..."

They've had a year to pass a budget. And they couldn’t do it. Why should we believe that a few more weeks would make any difference?

No. The truth is, these elected officials are masters of procrastination. They leave EVERYTHING to the very last moment. And then scream that they're facing a crisis. Well they create the so-called crisis. Because they're inept. And self-absorbed. They don't give one iota about the American people. None of them. Time to toss the entire bunch out. Every last one of them.

PS: Repeal the 17th Amendment
50 weeks ago
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Lardo140, You're both right and wrong. Use http://www.govtrack.us to track the bills. You'll find the House did their duty and passed most of the bills in question by early July and sent them to the Democratically controlled Senate, which just ignored them like they've ignored all Republican bills since 2008. The Dems aren't compromising on anything. They think negotiating with Republicans means the Republicans should give Dens everything. And the county is no wiser thanks to a biased media lying themselves about who's to blame.
50 weeks ago
50 weeks ago Link To Comment
See, here's the thing - back in 2009, when Obama and the Democrats wanted to pass the Affordable Care Act, the responsible thing to do would have been to: 1) Lay out the cost of this massive new federal program in a formal budget proposal, and let that be considered along with the law, and 2) Work out some compromises so that the law could enjoy at least some bi-partisan support.

Not only did they NOT disclose any of the costs in a budget, but for the next three years they did not propose or vote on any budgets. Instead, they sped the bill through Congress on a party-line vote, with many Democrats voting for this bill without even reading it - or as then Speaker Pelosi was famous for saying - "We have to pass this to find out what's in it".

Funding by continuing resolution is only happening now because the Democrasts abandoned the tradtional budget processes in order to get this enacted. When the GOP got locked out of having any say on this bill back in 2009, the voters reacted by giving them control of the House in 2012. So now, since the costs of Obamacare were NOT previously authorized under a duly passed budget (God forbid they should have allowed the voters to see that before the election), it becomes fair game for the House to use its "power of the purse" as a leverage to get some of the negotiations, compromises, and budget considersations, all of which should have occurred back in 2009.
50 weeks ago
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Members of Congress don't seem to be interested in what works. They're interested in being Heroes. Obamacare was a grand gesture.
50 weeks ago
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Extending Medicaid to the federal poverty level would have been a justified action. Encouraging insurance companies to create "basic" levels of health insurance that would cover visits to primary care doctors would have made sense. Obama on the other hand demanded "the sky's the limit" levels of coverage which naturally were going to be really expensive. Just like buying auto insurance with no upper limits would be far more expensive than what most people actually buy. Actually Obamacare has such large deductibles that many people won't be able to actually "use" the insurance they paid so much for!
50 weeks ago
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We just got our "message from the President." He goes on a lot about how noble government service is, how we (government employees and contractors) have been used as "punching bags" in the past, and how he'll work with Congress to "reopen" the government.

The message also contains the following paragraph:

"This shutdown was completely preventable. It should not have happened. And the House of Representatives can end it as soon as it follows the Senate's lead, and funds your work in the United States Government without trying to attach highly controversial and partisan measures in the process."

Make of it what you will.
50 weeks ago
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Right. Republican's are "controversial and partisan". While Barack Obama never is.

Wake up, America.
50 weeks ago
50 weeks ago Link To Comment
In case nobody has already said it, the government isn't "closed" right now. Funding is complicated. Government contracts are complicated. Some agencies have pools of money available for continued operation. Some multi-year contracts have already been paid for.

So it's not like Washington is locking the doors and shuttering the windows. Judging by this morning's rush hour, I'd say most Federal personnel DID come to work this morning.

A true shutdown, if it occurs, will take days, weeks, or months to complete. If we're lucky(?), the President and Congress will stop going full retard before we get to that point.

On the other hand, it would be interesting if - like the sequester - the shutdown happened and then...nothing much happened. Mind you, I wouldn't like to get furloughed. It would be inconvenient. But as a conservative I'm curious to find out how LITTLE government we can have and still function as a nation.

50 weeks ago
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We could probably function fine with a federal government that did no more than did the federal government several decades ago. As a matter of fact, the proper role of the federal government according to the Constitution is a whole lot less than what the government is doing today!
50 weeks ago
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With few exceptions, pretty much all we need are the military, law enforcement, and the courts. The rest of government is pretty much superfluous.
50 weeks ago
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Well, my mom & dad would prefer to have their Medicare, but other than that I agree with you.

Government welfare is like aspirin: The right amount is healthy but too much will kill you.

Unfortunately, the Dr. Obama and his friends believe that if an aspirin a day is good for you then a bottle of aspirin a day is even better.

Someday, we're going to need our stomachs pumped.
50 weeks ago
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We started out with a federal government that did military defense, relations with other nations, and which prohibited states from having tariffs against other states. Law enforcement is really something that should have been left to the states to deal with. The "War on Drugs" is a social and economic disaster. We spend far more on the military than any other country on Earth. If we hadn't made health care into the "monopoly" it is today thanks to federal regulation, the cost would perhaps 1/2 of what it is today. It seems that everything the government does causes prices of goods and services to go up. Government enforced professional monopolies add thousands of dollars to our own cost of living. A true free society gives you "choices" in everything you can name. A society run by government does the exact opposite!
50 weeks ago
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The almighty State, otherwise known as "the government".... Shut it down, shut it all down. Make it a month, NO make it a year! The bloated excuse for government that this country has now is nothing but the day-by-day incrementalism of bureaucratic tyranny. As Hannah Arendt recognized long ago, it is the banality of evil.

That the effing left could bring it to this point time after time after time only proves the depth of their lies and disingenuous agenda. Need we make this analogy one more time? … Raising the debt ceiling is equivalent to increasing the credit limit on your credit card after maxing it out, with the intent of doing it again minus the slightest attempt at fiscal responsibility. On top of that, the effing left has the unmitigated gall to blame the whole situation on those oh-so-evil Tea Partiers, slinging all the de rigueur name-calling that passes for leftist discourse.

Make the following your prayer, your motto, your reason for getting up in the morning:

God d@#n the left.
50 weeks ago
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I agree, but sadly it's not just the Left that spends like drunken sailors. Taxing, spending, and raising the debt ceiling has become part of Congressional culture - business as usual. And "the goverment will take care of it" has become part of American culture - business as usual. I don't see how we can undo it at this point.
50 weeks ago
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Our only hope is that it can be undone at the ballot box, but what are the chances, with so many being influenced by the media narrative always favoring Obama?
50 weeks ago
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“The world’s way of responding to intimations of decay is to engage equally in idiot hopes and idiot despair. On the one hand some new policy or discovery is confidently expected to put everything to rights: a new fuel, a new drug, détente, world government. On the other, some disaster is as confidently expected to prove our undoing. Capitalism will break down. Fuel will run out. Plutonium will lay us low. Atomic waste will kill us off. Overpopulation will suffocate us, or alternatively, a declining birth rate will put us more surely at the mercy of our enemies.

In Christian terms, such hopes and fears are equally beside the point. As Christians we know that here we have no continuing city, that crowns roll in the dust and every earthly kingdom must sometime flounder, whereas we acknowledge a King men did not crown and cannot dethrone, as we are citizens of a city of God they did not build and cannot destroy.”
-Malcolm Muggeridge

http://goo.gl/Jv1sJT
50 weeks ago
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It's interesting how we alternate between the illusion of control and the illusion of no control. As Muggeridge says, either we think we can fix everything or we think everything's going to fix us. Not very realistic. I wonder when it started.
50 weeks ago
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Right around the instant that Satan rebelled against God.
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