Shut Up, America: A Warning Siren for the Future of Free Speech
Today, there’s no shortage of information outlets, and to single out talk radio for regulation is simply ludicrous and clearly a partisan effort. Can anyone honestly believe an effort to reintroduce the Fairness Doctrine would even be discussed if radio talk leaned to the left?
President Obama has stated his opposition to the Fairness Doctrine, but some of his Democratic allies firmly support the measure. House Speaker NancyPelosi, N.Y. Senator Chuck Schumer, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have all spoken in favor of the measure. Schumer went so far as to compare right-leaning “hate” talk to pornography.
The legislation could resurface under another name (code word: localism) or even in a slightly different form. Senators might dress it up in other terms like diversity or claim the country needs it to fight back against hate speech. Naturally, the “hate” in question only comes from the right, not the frothings of lefties like Keith Olbermann. And wasn’t it the former senator from Illinois, O’Leary argues, that sent his camp out during the recent presidential campaign to picket radio stations? O’Leary dismisses the uniformed rationale for conservative talk radio’s ascent, dismantling liberal attacks on the medium which say righty talkers aren’t as bright as their left-leaning colleagues and deal with only black and white issues.
While O’Leary relies too heavily on some sources, including media critic Adam Thierer, the book does wrap with a handy resource of organizations already battling any rebirth of the Fairness Doctrine.
It’s possible only a few of the free speech restrictions O’Leary paints in Shut Up, America will come to pass. So consider his easily digested book a warning siren. Freedom loving Americans better be ready to fight back should the Obama administration follow the lead of some more partisan and ignorant sources. It’s clear the mainstream press won’t be of much help should the Obama administration lead the charge for talk radio’s destruction.
“President Obama has stated his opposition to the Fairness Doctrine, but some of his Democratic allies firmly support the measure.” Right–”let the other guys do the dirty work while I look cool and fair.”
Notice how when its a populist issue he’s all clear, but when it may not be popular he sends his minions to do it and plays the opposite high ground? Look at the torture pics–they’ll still come out but now he’s “against it” since he has to distance himself politically because of the obvious backlash and bad effects it’s going to have. The consummate politician–all while he so eloquently promised the end of partisan politics and the beginning of transparency blah blah. This guy and this whole administration is a venomous, lying snake, and dumbed-down America plays with him like he’s a cute puppy. No wonder every picture we see of Soros he’s smiling.
As everybody knows, what he’s stated has nothing to do with what he’s going to try to push down our throats. Bait and switch, straw men, distraction and diversion, he does it all. “OOOOO I like to dance a little side step…….”
Thanks for the article, I guess we can do what we can while we still can and we need to keep up exposing their always morphing tactics towards their agenda. They’ve gotten to the point that they’re recklessly careening ahead with their agenda on every possible front, so we need to pray they hit the wall soon. But if they muzzle talk radio, never mind the net, they’re foolishly going to create a very large and volatile pressure cooker with no outlet.
From a serial bookworm: There are so many politically incorrect books coming out of America – even I can’t keep up. This is great.
“(code word: localism)”
Barack Obama has every intention of destroying both our First and Second Amendment rights. But he knows that it’s best to be subtle. Frontal attacks raise too many angry responses. Obama therefore intends on stabbing us in the back with attempts at “localism” and “diversity.” Guns will also not directly be prohibited. The Obama administration will, for instance, simply try to pass a bill mandating serial numbers be imprinted on each bullet. This will make it virtually impossible for most Americans to afford ammunition.
We have no First Amendment in Europe and our freedom is non-existent with the exception of ridiculing and insulting Christianity and Christian white male(I’m not Christian) as the cause of all problems in the world. There are many elements, the Left, Islamists, EU and UN who have built an unholy alliance to limit and even destroy our freedom.
It seems that you are not far away becoming like us and losing your precious First Amendment. I am not a proponent of conspiracy theories but the so-called “Fairness Doctrine” has already begun by banning Michael Savage from entering Britain. The idea was initiated in Washington not in London and it is only the beginning for the worst treatment of Michael Savage and other Conservative talk show hosts in the USA. If Savage is considered a danger to the security of Britain the same can be applied in the USA.
I see many of our Hollywood dweebs and Want to Be Important People are supporting the Diversity/Localism Doctrine to counter Hate Speech-disagreeing with their adulation of all things Left.
The Internet is next on their radar.
If the socialists have their way, even books like this will get “censored” ( read: not published). Or if they censor the internet, they may have to be sold underground. Sound like any other countries you have read about? I am sure this is not what the large majority of Americans want, be they Dem or Repub., yet I talked with a colleague the other day who gets his news from the MSM and he said I watch too much “Fox and Friends” and he would be fine with us moving toward more socialism. Chilling.
BPT:)! That IS a cheerful thought, isn’t it?
I’ve observed the same thing, just trying to keep up with the new releases in our local library. If indeed they are saying, “Shut up, America!” it may turn out that they started saying it too late. I pray God it’s so.
I think they are simply caught off guard that so many conservatives started talking at once over the past few years!
And now even the farmers with their pitchforks are doing it! (obama thinks the pitchforks are pointed at the bankers, as he threatened to stop “protecting them”….he might want to think again…)
Any Liberal that tries to take away the FREEDOM OF SPEECH as guaranteed by our Constitution should have their citizenship revoked.
We are now moving into the era of Fuhrer Obama, with each new edict taking away more of our freedoms, our rights and eroding our constitution. This man terrifies me. He is corrupt, delusional, incompetent and a racist; yet half of America appear to adore him as if he were a “rock star”. And that is the problem.
President’s aren’t supposed to be adored. They are elected to run this country, make the tough decisions on what is best of the country and her citizens – not take over American corporations, banks, and hospitals. Presidents are not supposed to dimenish the value and worth of the CIA; Presidents are not to assess blame, but to provide solutions and uphold our laws and Constitution. Obama is faiing on every level.
He is a fraud. I just want to know, who is pulling his strings. The man is not smart enough to do all of this himself.
Obama should let the wingnuts have their say. It is the sure way to their oblivion.
Wow, imagine what you could say here if you weren’t being trampled by the forces of evil.
Tell the Christian right to take their censor-hungry theocratic ways and shove it as well and I might just be on board with this thing.
Every cause has deplorable supporters like Neocomrades C. Toto and B. O’Leary, Mr. Bones.
The thing for you and me to do, sir, after once having thoroughly deplored, is to try to learn from their example back-handedly. In the case at hand, to realize how silly one would look oneself, pretending to be victimized by shifty conspirators who are so exceptionally shifty that there is nothing concrete that they have actually done to point to.
One writes ‘pretending’ merrily, yet of course in really grave cases of brain fever the patient is not pretendin’ one bit, she walks sincerely in dread of Hidden Persuaders and Power Elites and Invisible Hands and … and probably of Ishtar and Marduk to boot. (Most human misbehavior that is not obviously fun or profitable can be classified as religionistical in nature without doing too much damage to common conceptions.)
Another possible factor is cynicism, though that is an attainment of which Neocomrades C. Toto and B. O’Leary seem not likely to be capable. To make up imaginary conspiracies that one does not believe a word of in the path of furthering some genuine more-or-less conspiracy of one’s own is rather a taxing business, IQ-wise. Or if cynicism does not absolutely require the mystic fluid behind the Herrnstein-Murray Curve™, it at least demands what one might label the ‘lawyerly’ sort of mindset, a love of sharp edges and fine distinctions and jolly litigations. Neocomrade Prof. J. Yoo, Esq., might be up to cynicism — he’d be a shade less abominable if he were guilty of it, by my lights — but your run-of-the-mill Totos and O’Learys? Not a sound wager.
To turn from the quacks to the patients: here in Pajamastán the natives are poised, I suppose, along the right slope up to the apex of the H-M Curve: graduates of Wombschool Normal University, by and large, but honour graduates thereof. Wingnuts _cum laude_, so to speak. Neocomrade Dr. Limbaugh has no more to teach them, so they flock hither in hope of more and better than a merely AM Excellence. Also in hopes of gettin’ a word of their own in edgewise, I suspect, because they’ll be struck by lightnin’ sooner than be deemed worthy of direct communication with Himself.
Now if we are honest, Mr. Bones, we must admit that we have no solid notion how to conduct agitprop for such a market as Pajamastán. Or indeed for any other market: _sobie spiewamy a Muzom_, [0] sir, and it would be unseemly indeed to treat our dread patron ladies as customers or consumers. All you and I can do when it comes to Totos and O’Learys is look in through the barbed-wire fence around the reservation and try to make sense of aboriginal behavior from afar. Having no instinctive sympathy with the self-doin’s at Wingnut City and Rio Limbaugh, we are in some danger of missing the point. Worse, after missing what seems to the natives the point, we might substitute some other supposed point of our own invention, probably one designed to make the neo-tribalists look even more backwardly neoteric than they really are. In short, sir, we are at some risk of behaving no better than a C. Toto or a B. O’Leary. No better than how they seem to us to be behavin’, that is.
Still, let’s have a go at it, shall we?
It seems safe to assume (1) that the neocomrade agitproppers bringin’ their “Smash Squawk Radio!” product to market expect a demand for it. And it is a mere fact of observation (2) that Neocomrade Dr. Limbaugh has been hawkin’ this same product at least since the mornin’ after the night before, 5 November 2008.
To analyze that a little before slicing some more off the loaf, it might seem that my thesis of Pajamastán bein’ a cut or two above Rio Limbaugh is challenged if the same shoddy goods are for sale both places. The error is plain, however: a great deal of what wingnutettes and wingnuts crave is available every place they shop. The peckin’ order of emporiums is established by a comparatively small number of ideoproducts at the margin. At Rio Limbaugh one will find wares that few Pajamastánís care to buy, thinkin’ them rather crude. Over at _Common Terror_ magazine, on the other hand, there are toney gizmos for sale that the Pajamastánís would not know what to do with if they had one. [1]
As usual there is a Great Scale of Being — or Great Curve of Murray and Herrnstein™, ding-a-ling! — at work in the background.
It is natural to wonder at this point whether Princess Neoterica and the other autoimperial folks up at Castle Podhóretz would be interested in purchasin’ a couple of gallons of “Smash Squawk Radio!” moonshine. Given their tertiary-educational advantages, they are not likely to actually believe the advertisements for this ideoproduct, but they might buy a little anyway, so as to maintain good relations with their own lower orders in general, and more particularly to help keep the vendors in business durin’ these economic hard times in the wake of the Crawford Crash.
O’Learys and Totos (and squawk radio) are mere pawns in Her Imperial Highness’s eyes, no doubt, but political chess would not be political chess without pawns, now, would it? Up at the castle there must be at least a few neocomradely cynics who do not narcissistically insist on swallowin’ their own agitprop cocktails before they offer them to others.
The practical question, I guess, is whether this one will be drunk by any drinkers who matter politically. It is pointless to invite Rio Limbaugh to take a sip: at that level the Party base-’n’-vile already know that the whole world is out to get them. Whether the Grand Consolidated Enemies List contains 14,308 names or only 14,307 is not worth carin’ about.
The ideal dupe or mark or cocktail drinker would, I presume, be a neocomradess who does not herself listen in to Dr. Limbaugh and the Rev. Hannity, or watch the bozo Beck, but fancies herself a Voltaire or Zola when it comes to her neocomrades’ imprescriptible right to say things that she mostly agrees with when worded more genteelly. This _shtyk_ would of course be vastly more impressive ethically if the lady wanted to go to bat for Mr. Glenn Greenwald or Prof. Dr. Chomsky or some other such fiend with whom she could not disagree more. Politics is politics, however, whereas ethics is only ethics.
Defendin’ *everybody’s* right to be obnoxious and nasty and widely publicized makes sense only in conjunction with the Islamophalangitarian Menace™ and/or Hyperzionism, as far as I can ascertain. When the neo-Levantine angle is absent altogether, there is no benefit to the neocomradely cause in an endorsement of universal uglification and derision.
To generalize that plan would indeed be idiotic, from the neocomrades’ perspective. This conclusion follows from the elementary axioms of Neocomradism, Mr. Bones: except in the most extraordinary circumstances — circumstances so unusual that when they arise, your typical neocomrade feels an irresistible urge to abuse the word ‘existential’ — they want nothing to do with our Prof. Kant and his silly Goose-and-Gander Principle. If the action of the neocomradely community were such as to be a model for all–even worse, if neocomradely action were to be actually emulated by every Tom and Dick and Barry that comes down the pike–why, the wingnutettes and wingnuts would slice their throats in despair!
That is not what they have in mind at all, sir! Ideally every neocomradely action would be such as to rub in the pet maxim of Buckley Minor, _Quod licet Iovi non licet bovi_, “WE have a right to do this, but if WE ever catch you attemptin’ it, O Lesser Breeds Without . . .!”
Even when they had temporary control of their Uncle Sam’s Sole Remainin’ Hyperpower™, even with Neocomrade Viceroy R. B. Cheney preachin’ the dogmas of the Omnicompetent Unitary Executive™!, they fell far short of actually realizin’ their ideal to the max. But anybody with a pricey education comparable to yours and mine, Mr. Bones, would have to be blind not to see what the Holy Grail of Neocomradedom looks like.
After once beholding that miserific vision, no competent student of Neocomradology can take their occasional playin’ at Voltaire or Callas or Zola or Captain Dreyfus at face value. Father Jupiter (in the person of His archpriests and inferior devotees) is to have His paternal and jovial rights, we cows are to have our bovine rights, and the two categories scarcely overlap at all. _Suum cuique tribuere_, don’t you know?
It is a very old song, and one scarcely disguised by the sometimes grotesque contortions imposed upon illiberalism and antidemocracy by _La Démocratie en Amérique_. Both the narrow Hate-’68 Movement and the broader Party of Big Management could not exist politically if they did not go through most of the motions prescribed for a holy-Homelandic™ political party by General Jackson and Mr. Van Buren long ago, but here again one would have to be blind, Mr. Bones, not to notice how little they believe in these formal gestures that they are externally compelled to make. The neocomrades’ insincerity about equality and fraternity [2] is so patent and so ancient that it is a waste of breath to call it insincere. And it certainly cannot be called lyin’ when nobody politically competent can be deceived by it.
However the times are in one sense opportune for an ideoproduct such as Neocomrades B. O’Leary and C. Toto set out to market. Their crew’s paws have been pried off the levers of Fedguv power to such an extent that it would be laughable to think of *them* settin’ up as formal and official censors. Hence the Otherparty can blithely accuse America’s party along “Smash Squawk Radio!” lines without any risk of an immediate _tu quoque_. “I could not possibly have done that, Your Honor” is, when verified, a satisfactory defense in court.
Politics is not exactly like jurisprudence, though. In the latter forum one may legitimately wonder what America’s Otherparty would like to do if only they could. It flabbers my gast to suppose that they *really* want everybody to set up as a Danish cartoonist — imagine a Danish cartoonist arbitrarily allergic to wingnuttinesses and neoteric reaction! Just the other day the common terrorisers were throwin’ the word ‘slander’ around [3] in a manner that seemed more in line with what I take to be the neocomrades’ authentic druthers.
But let us not get carried away, Mr. Bones. If one evaluates the sweet puppies of Endarkenment as a whole, one must conclude, I think, there was no general wish, even under George XLIII and His aforementioned Viceroy, to go to law against the ‘slanders’ of liberals and democrats and Democrats. The neocomradely community want that sort of impertinence hushed up, but not by official censorship.
In this department, their ideal would be, I suppose, that anybody who ventured to use the word ‘aggression’ of one of their preëmptive retaliations, or ‘torture’ of their scientific investigative techniques, would _ipso facto_ become unemployable in the Private-or-Secret Sector. No respectable neocomradess would talk to the wretch in the street, and if the wretch were to venture to accost a respectable neocomradess, a posse of neocomrades with horsewhips at the ready would appear on the scene _pronto_. All sanctions would be strictly informal and unofficial and civil-socialist, don’t you see?
Something like that, Mr. Bones. Something like that.
Happy days.
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[0] http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Kochanowski
[1] For example, yesterday a few of the weekly standardisers and common terrorisers were havin’ a ball
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/boot/65611
with amateur armchair invasion-’n’- occupation therapy for the Brave New Afghanistan, on the occasion of Neocomrade General McKiernan’s dismissal. Pajamastánís are not up to active participation in Father Joseph’s grand parlour game of “taking fortresses with fingertips,” but they know vaguely (as I conjecture) who McKiernan was and are content to take Neocomrade Rear-Colonel M. Boot’s word for the substance of it.
Down in Rio Limbaugh, it would be rash to assume that the average shopper ever heard of the good neocomrade colonel himself, let alone takes any interest in his latest armchairisms about the state of the aggression.
But God knows best.
[2] For some reason, they’ve lately started sneerin’ at _la fraternité_ under the label of ‘empathy’. BGKB.
[3] “I love how Obama and Co. gave George Bush no credit for the work he was doing to protect the country, slandering and hindering him whenever possible.”
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions?author_name=gjermani
(( Singled out for special notice by the wingnutette in charge ))
While reading this article, I was taken off track by the link to the Olbermann and Garafolo link…”frothings of lefties”….
The things these fools say, especially Garafolo when speaking about attendees of the recent Tea Parties…”Straight up racisim” is so extremely skewered.
The psychological phenomenon of “Projection” comes to mind. Conservatives are accused of every evil tactic that the liberals employ. This includes the charge of racism.
My case in point:
As a former liberal, I have an understanding of the left talking points. I am against any form of racism. My most basic phiolosophy is this…If you cut us all open, we’re all the same on the inside. Live by The Golden Rule is my motto. Now to my point.
During the last election, on two occasions, I was called a racist because I was not voting for BO. The mans skin color had absolutely nothing to do with my vote. I put forth the proposition that the people I was in conversation with were the racists because the only reason they were voting for him was because he was black. His policies, political history and lack of experience were my reasons for not voting for him.
Notice how no one ever wants to stop the Liberals from speaking? It’s because they never have ANYTHING of value to say except gems like this…
“Obama should let the wingnuts have their say. It is the sure way to their oblivion.”
“Wow, imagine what you could say here if you weren’t being trampled by the forces of evil.”
Seriously, does this administration ENJOY having this caliber of follower? Talk about your illiterate, uninformed voter base. I’m embarrassed for them and our public educational system that produced them.
Any doubts as to how on Earth people could stomach a vote for an empty suit? Read a few liberal posts. Totally braindead. These are the people that buy magazines if he’s featured shirtless on the cover (and unfortunately probably save the pictures too).
Nancy “I Disremember” Pelosi on this subject:
“When asked if she[Pelost] would permit Rep. Mike Pence’s Broadcaster Freedom Act, H.R. 2905, to be voted on this session, she said no. The Broadcaster Freedom Act will ban the FCC from ever reinstituting[sic] the Fairness Doctrine. When asked if she would bring back the Fairness Doctrine, she replied “Yes” and said that Rep. Louise Slaughter “has been active behind this [revival of the Fairness Doctrine] for a while now.”
From a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in June 2008.
Left wingers are so silly…they can’t communicate without namecalling.
13. JHM dba ”J. P. Zenger”:
Seriously dude, get help!
#15, A Thinking Person
“Seriously, does this administration ENJOY having this caliber of follower? Talk about your illiterate, uninformed voter base. I’m embarrassed for them and our public educational system that produced them.”
I think they’d rather have an army of talking-point repeating zombies than small numbers of “thinking persons.”
The simplest reason why is because there are a lot more of them than there are of you.
Another reason is that they’re never off message: They’re just repeating what they’ve been programmed and are paid to repeat. You have to deal with a little thing called “thought,” which can interfere with the task of relentlessly driving home a pre-packaged message. Being utterly oblivious is actually a political advantage, especially when such a person is also unmoved by such things as common decency or a proper respect for one’s fellow human beings.
So yes. I don’t know if “enjoy” is the right word, but they’d rather have the robots. Lenin (I think it was Lenin) called them “useful idiots.”
“I think they’d rather have an army of talking-point repeating zombies than small numbers of “thinking persons.”
That’s why we should be very worried. Logical argumentation will not sway the near rabid followers of Barack Obama. They are often dumber than a door post. Obama may have a 45% lock on the voting public regardless of what he does or does not do. In other words, he might merely need to attract another 5.0001% of the electorate to win every single election! This is all about pure power. Rational thought has next to nothing to do with anything. Be scared, be very scared.
Unthinkingperson aka Dope – I wish I could get you more publicity. Everytime I send these post on to my republican friends they crnge and try to reply by sending me some left wing posts. But usually cannot top your nonsense
22.IE: Shadow aka(shadow of a brain).I send your post to a psychiatrist specializing in psychosis caused by syphillis. He says your Waterman test stain is probably larger than the iceberg that sank the titanic.
sheesh – I see you have ample time to post to every story here. Do you have a job, or are my tax dollars paying for you to waste bandwidth trolling conservatives?
David #20 – You’re right on target:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTY5ZTA5NmEwMGY4MTFhNDg2ZDg4NjU2MDkxOGYyYTE=
Barak Hussein Obama is doing exactly what the left’s adgenda is,and that is changing our country to socialism. So killing free speech is only the begining.
Re #21: “I wish I could get you more publicity.” Wow, I knew I had a great point but to have you forwarding my thoughts onward flatters me to no end. Please, next time you do so send my regards and sympathy for them having a feckless, illiterate friend named after a comic book character and sign it…. AThinkingPerson
To: shadow
I’m not sure which one of you idiots (shadow, sheesh, jbm dba whatever, or everyone’s favorite pastor of muppets) recently made the comment out here referring to the phrase “I know you are, but what am I?”.
Re-read your post at #21 and try to grow up.
And by the way, I would seriously doubt that you have any friends. Republican or otherwise.
To: AThinkingPerson
I got your back.
And all along I believed what leftists said about free speech being our most important freedom.
Gee, it turns out that I was lied to.
I’m thinking we need to shut off internet connectivity to Iran. Some of these posters seemingly are the same guys walking around with “Death To America” signs at the Tehran Islamic Jihad rallies.
God help us if they are actually misguided Americans.
Middleman, time to give it up with the “censor” thing and “theocracy”. I heard that crap for the past eight years and no theocracy was ever threatened or established, no person was ever forced to convert, the laws maintaining church/state separation are still in place, Bush is back in his ranch in Texas,[and I might add being a lot more of a gentleman then the babyish blamer in the White House] there is ample, if idiotic, criticism of Christianity, if anything increasing, etc.
Face it, you were told to fear and hate by the media and you followed your marching orders. You can stop now, the media has changed it’s focus, you’re out of step, it’s Rush Limbaugh and talk radio. Which is why, speaking of censorship and you did mention it, we have had U S senators talking about about a “fairness Doctrine”. Euphemisms abound.
Remember, freedom of speech is supposed to be our most important freedom, at least when convenient.
Please refer to a dictionary for reference to “theocracy”, please. It may help.
Steve – with friends like you – Dope needs no enemies
Johnt –
Face it, you are being told to fear and hate by the media (Fox News / Conservative radio) and you are following your marching orders.
There is NOTHING to substantiate the claims the Toto is making in this book. 100% pure delusional paranoia.
#13, sound the alarm, exit stage left.
AThinkingPerson: “Seriously, does this administration ENJOY having this caliber of follower? Talk about your illiterate, uninformed voter base. I’m embarrassed for them and our public educational system that produced them.
Any doubts as to how on Earth people could stomach a vote for an empty suit? Read a few liberal posts. Totally braindead. These are the people that buy magazines if he’s featured shirtless on the cover (and unfortunately probably save the pictures too).
Typical. You lost, so the only logical explanation is that the winners are all retarded/deluded/confused/brainwashed by Communists.
If you really believe that the 70% of Americans who now approve of President Obama are braindead imbeciles, then please tell me where were all these morons during the 2000 and 2004 election? Did they not vote? Are these 70% just millions of homeless people and college kids that ACORN drove to polling stations? Or is it possible that the same “illiterate, uninformed voter base”, as you call them, who voted for Obama also voted for Bush? I guess that all these geniuses who voted for Bush were bashed in the head with tackhammers when they went to the polls last year right? I mean, that’s the only explanation I can think of for how millions of rational, intelligent, wordly, high information conservative voters who voted for Bush would also vote for Obama.
Also, please tell me what is unfortunate about having a president without a beer gut?
@17. Meryl:
By your sense of reasoning that makes Deguello a liberal.
#33 “Anonymous”: “being told to fear and hate by the media (Fox News/ Conservative radio).” ???
Yes, SO unlike the love fest over on MSDNC with Olbermann and Maddog right? The only “100% pure delusional paranoia” is yours. FYI… Fox News and Conservative radio are unfortunately the only media not suckling at the TeleBama teat. I know that really peeves the liberals that there are still pockets of free thinkers out there that haven’t sold out to be a HopeNChange cult member but you’re just going to have to deal with it.
#35 Pastor of Muppets: What, no “black” comments this time? No racist diatribe? Gee, you must be tired. YES, I do believe that the Americans/Illegal voting Immigrants/voters who went and voted in more than one state who still approve of TeleBama are imbeciles.There’s no other way to explain a vote for someone with such an empty record and a shady at best past. Where were they during the last election? In Mexico, sleeping under a park bench or in grade school. Where are they now? In the unemployment line waiting for their mortgage and car payments they were promised during the election and wondering why TeleBama is now doing what Cheney tells him to do and why he’s selling out their kids futures and driving US businesses overseas.
PoM PoM girl #35,
Always the “party queen” to go erecting strawmen and blowing meaningless diversions in the wind….
johnt,
Uh, we have a major Creationist battle going on right here in Texas as the Board of Education, with Creationists Chairman appointed by our Republican Tea Party boy governor Rick Perry, are trying to push a Creationist agenda when it comes to science curriculum in Texas schools.
The theocratic agenda is very much alive and well down here and hasn’t taken root only because people have fought it tooth and nail.
Middleman, thanks for checking in, and Uh to you to.
Now Middleman think your way through this, it being apparent you did not refer to a dictionary so as to understand what “theocracy” means.
The fact that you have a “major” Creationist battle, and thanks for capitalizing Creationist, does not imply or suggest an answer to anything I posted. Further, If creationism is taught in public schools it can not, will not replace other broader aspects of science teaching and in any case is hardly the national issue leftist hysterics made it for eight years and laid at the feet of Bush.
If by some chance room has to be made for this course perhaps we can eviscerate the other religious teaching that is allowed in schools, environmentalism. What do you think?
Oh, and what do you think of the assault on free speech by our trustworthy 1st amendment liberals, think you’ve been lied to?
And let us both send our regards to Nancy Pelosi, it seems,in line with your marching orders mentioned in my post, that you have been fed a massive bunch of bull—t on something called torture.
Enjoy your leftism, it’s getting shabbier and uglier by the day.
Anonymous, are you usually so eloquent? Have a ten year old read my 4:19 post to you, enjoy. I assume that any number of U S senators calling for what is plainly government control of speech is “nothing” to you.
I recommend you stay anonymous, the best idea you will ever have.
Pastor of Muppets: So who was the president with a beer gut? Bush was running a sub 20 minute 5K into his 50′s. Whenever Obama and Clinton do/did anything athletic (Clinton was a pathetic, gooey runner) the press would go gaga over how sporty they were. When Bush was kickin it on the treadmill or biking with Lance, the press would harp on how he was wasting his time exercising when he should be working. Unbelievable hypocracy. Obama is plastic metrosexual, who may look good in a bathing suit (although I think he looks a little soft), but Bush was the real deal. The memory of Kerry walking around in cammo hunting gear was always good for a laugh.
What a great idea, if you don’t report the ‘real’ stories impacting our nation, you don’t have to worry Americans about the potential danger. It’s easy when all major networks collectively report on the same story and debate the same issues without ever deviating from trivial content delivered in a vacuum of invalid, politically correct, pre-packaged talking points which govern all topics.
For the benefit of the serious posters here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/defeating_political_ridicule.html
PASTOR OF MUPPETS: Is that the O’hole’s nom de plume,or is it his teleprompter’s?
#36PAT J: There is a difference between name-calling,and clinical analysis of the politically demented.Liberals, marxists, castroites, stalinists, and other virulent statist fantasists,have killed tens of millions of people,in the 20th century, ruined economies,and generally caused havoc.Yet,despite their manifest and catastrophic failures,they refuse to learn,and continue to try and impose totalitarian statism(the “fairness”) doctrine.Such people are immune to reason,and deserve to be ridiculed,satirized, insulted, and worse. Name calling a libtard, is simply a psychologically normal response to the stubborn, demented virulence,and moral cowardice of a destructive being. Contempt for the contemptible I say. Speaking of the contemptible: If you got a problem with me Patty Cakes, don’t hide behind Meryl’s skirts.Did I mention that libtards are cowards?
Pendejo, liberals often believe in equality, individual liberty and respect for their common man. The first liberal state was the U.S. These “ists” you mention are totalitarian and have nothing to do with the well being liberals encourage and foster. Liberals do not fit or deserve to fit into those extreme categories.
Radical Islam, in my opinion, is also totalitarian and also fits quite well with certain right wing ideologies.
I notice no mention of facism and Nazism in your tirade. Considering these are right wing ideologies I guess you have no problem with them.
One thing that seems to be missing from this free speech argument: any action taken to curb free speech is illegal under the supreme law of the land.
Pat J: “Radical Islam, in my opinion, is also totalitarian and also fits quite well with certain right wing ideologies.
I notice no mention of facism and Nazism in your tirade. Considering these are right wing ideologies I guess you have no problem with them.”
Don’t you know? According to the wingnuts, fascism and Nazism are inherently left-wing, because only left-wing governments seek totalitarian control. Since all right wing governments, in contrast, always champion freedom and individuality, there is no way that a right wing government could ever be totalitarian or fascist. Therefore, any fascist government that exhibits xenophobia, hatred of intellectuals, oppression of minorities, liberals, gays, and immigrants, is actually exhibiting left-wing behavior.
You have to hit yourself in the back of the head repeatedly with a tackhammer to even begin to understand the logic.
48PAT J: Flushed you out of your sewer did I Patty Cakes?Let’s dispose of your lies:”Liberals believe in equality”No,they say they do, but they support reverse racism aimed at white and Asians to pander to minority losers.”Liberals believe in individual liberty”,which is why they try to force gay scoutmasters on the boy scouts,support repressive speech codes on campuses, and criminalizing thought with “hate crime laws”. They also supported Stalin’s Gulags,and support Castro,and wear that great friend of liberty Che(mass murderer) Guevara proudly on their shirts. A liberal worried about militant Islam! What a joke! which is why you supported an appeasing Marxoid,america-hating creep for president,who until Dick Cheney slapped him upside the head,was going to release the Gitmo terrrorists!It has become difficult for you and your ilk to continue to pose as defenders of freedom, because of talk radio,blogs like this one, and Fox,that’s why true to form, you clowns are out to censor them good luck! SCRATCH A LIBERAL, FIND A STALINIST!
@52 Oh please. Grow up.
One way to put an end to the “fairness doctrine” style censorship is to make it apply to TV also. The lefties would be all up in arms.
37. AThinkingPerson:
There may be hope…while flipping through stations this morning looking for the weather I was stopped dead with MSNBC…they had Ron Paul on and they were agreeing with him, they also put Pelosi through the ringer and made fun of the NYT for burying the story about her. I was shocked. I watched the Olbermann guy once and he gave me the willies, kinda like I get when “That Guy” comes around me.
Maybe they are waking up! One can hope…LOL
40. Middleman:
A question for you…if the schools are teaching the theory of evolution and the big bang theory why not teach the creation theory? According to you they are all theories, right?
52 PAT J:Wow! What an incisive retort!I’m smarting from the pain!
48. Pat J:
“liberals often believe in equality, individual liberty and respect for their common man.”
Thanks for the laugh!
#50PASTOR OF MUPPETS:Let’s see:” xenophobia,hatred of intellectuals,oppression of minorities,liberals,gays,and immigrants…’sounds like a good description of Castro’s Cuba,Stalin’s Russia,North Korea,or any left wing totalitarian(liberal)regime,except for the liberals;they get to run the Gulags and fantasize about how wonderful life is!What was that about wingnuts again reverend?
53. Macko:
“One way to put an end to the “fairness doctrine” style censorship is to make it apply to TV also. The lefties would be all up in arms.”
I think it should apply toward TV. But keep in mind the Fairness Doctrine was designed to prevent personal attacks and perceived bias, not serve as censorship. Quite the opposite really. Both sides of an issue would have an opportunity to be heard.
If anything there should be new standards to prevent undue media bias. It should apply to news and commentary programming for radio, TV and cable. Limbaugh of course would be immune since he’s merely an entertainer.
Patty Cake: the term “perceived bias” is a clue to your bad faith.Perceived by whom? racial protection racketeers, like Al Sharpton? If Limbaugh is just an entertainer, why bother with him? How Stalinists hate the first amendment! Its effective use by conservatives,is to them what garlic is to vampires.
Hi everyone….I am retired, and trade stocks for extra income. There is something I would like to share with you, that may surprise you even more at the sad state of our nation. I suggest anyone interested, to take the time, and venture over to yahoo-finance during trading hours. (Check out the message board for GE or Ford common stocks). It will probably shock you that a capitalist message board has been taken over by the vilest forms of the far-left. A few right leaning posters put up a fight, but basically most of the posters are daily kos types on steroids.
I’m sure this goes on all over the web, but you would not expect it to be on such a forum.
The election of BHO has clearly emboldened the far-left, and they have become more radicalized than I would have ever dreamed. They are basically using every Saul Alinsky tactic considered, to attack traditional America, and coming up with new ones every day.
#55 — A question for you…if the schools are teaching the theory of evolution and the big bang theory why not teach the creation theory?
Creationism is now a theory? Since when? Do you have *any* idea what a theory is?
No. Of course you don’t. I’m shocked.
#61 — It will probably shock you that a capitalist message board has been taken over by the vilest forms of the far-left.
I’ll bite.
Examples, please?
“One of the many inaccurate memes running through the Bush years was that free speech was under constant attack. Meanwhile, more artists spoke out more often in more media outlets about the president’s policies.”
“One of the many inaccurate memes running through the Obama 1/3 year was that free speech was under constant attack. Meanwhile, more talk show know-nothings, blogtards and skinhead plumber clones spoke out more often in more media outlets about the president’s policies.”
Puhleez, spare me your chicken little predictions.
mr. zenger: are you kin to rachael peepers? that fairness doctrine sounds like an oxy-peloosy.
#13 jhm.WTF?i had to change the battery in my laptop to get through that opus.you also forced me to crack open my english to idiotarian dictonary to decipher it.let me hazard a guess……..you have a few unpublished novels laying around?you should collaberate with sheep[sh],it would be an instant best seller.
muppet.i am now through with even bothering to read your posts.all kidding aside;SEEK HELP IMMEDIATLY!
shadow;no suprises here.if your going to blurt out stupidity,at least be entertaining.
It’s not just Obama. McCain-Feingold anyone?
#64 TO HORTENSE WELLS:”0ne of the inaccurate memes Running through the liberal manual of deceptive dialectics,was that Liberals did not want to censor non-liberal political speech.To spread this lie, they sent blogtards with names like HORACE,semi-literate ACORN droids,and welfare-dependent lumpens,to deny that the OBAMANISTA regime was planning to destroy the first amendmendt.This lie was repeated in every media outlet.Unfortunately for them enough Americans recognized the lie,and decided to quash incipient Stalinism the way the Chilean people had done in 1973″ (“History of the United States in the Twenty First Century”). Keep trying you canting little puke.
“the term “perceived bias” is a clue to your bad faith.Perceived by whom?”
Perceived by the audience listening or watching the news or commentary program, and especially any person targeted by the commentator. This among things allows the person being attacked for his position to respond and present the other side of the coin.
The ultimate goal being for both sides of an issue to have an opportunity to be heard. Hopefully this would translate in time as a more informed electorate among other things. I hope hope that answered your question, cuatcha.
69P PATJ:Perceived by ACORN thugs,left-wing militants,libtards and other Stalinists,who would then shut down the radio program,with strident,contrived demands for equaltime.Imagine the NY Times having to devote 1/2 of its pages to conservative rebuttals;no liberal would read it,and the paper would disappear even faster than it is doing.Despite your disingenously positive description of the “fairness’ doctrine,amounts to de facto censorship.I hope that clarifies things for you,Sasquatch.
Obviously you have no real grasp of broadcast law. Can’t say you really have a good grasp about anything. Pretty good at calling names though and regurgitating right wing talking points. Your mother/sister/wife must be very proud of you.
Broadcast law was changed to discard a “fairness” doctrine that was clearly inhibiting free speech,which is why you stalinists want to bring it back.The desperate and defamatory accusation of incest,while a welcome change from the “racist”meme,is weak and hypocritical;having a wife that could also be your sister or your mother,sounds like a description of liberal family values. It’s incomplete though; you forgot the daddy brother pederast,child molester aspect of liberal family values,and of course the curcial bestiality aspect,that led your mommy to copulate with a retarded (sorry,special needs)chimpanzee,and produce a blogging libtard Sasquatch.