Should Veep Stay or Should Joe Go?
He’s just one loose-lipped, goofy-grinned moment away from making a “pull my finger” joke at the vice presidential debate.
And don’t think the White House doesn’t know this. I wouldn’t imagine they’re upset at Vice President Joe Biden for forcing Obama’s hand on gay marriage, as that looked too well planned to be an accident and history will likely reveal that the vice president was dutifully testing the public-sentiment waters.
But every time I see a private meeting on the White House press schedule between President Obama and Biden, I imagine what sort of dressing down the veep is getting for his latest gaffe, his latest YouTube and Twitter sensation, his latest cloaked reference to the president’s manhood.
And yet Vice President Joe Biden is working the campaign trail multiple days a week, pushing a series of well-placed policy speeches to constituencies in swing states, acting like he’s not going anywhere and is considered a valuable part of the re-election effort.
In one corner, Biden is seen as a jocular Everyman who can comfortably hang out in Small-Town America as Obama hits the luxe fundraisers in New York and L.A. His speeches, even when you factor in the daily foot-in-mouth, are more down-to-earth and off-the-cuff than President Teleprompter’s, lending accessibility to an otherwise stuffy ticket. He’ll open his wallet in the Dairy Queen to woo voters and he’ll praise Obama like he just walked across the Potomac to a choir of angels. His quips and off-color jokes provide for handy distractions, when needed, from policies and headlines the campaign would rather you ignore.
In the other corner, Biden is a living, breathing, jabbering reminder of what won’t be remembered as one of Obama’s best judgment calls. You don’t want a vice president to outshine the commander in chief’s glory, but you don’t want people fervently praying that he won’t have to step into the presidential role. And you don’t want the world’s most wanted terrorist talking about what an awesome idea it would be to get your veep promoted because he wouldn’t know his left foot from his right.
In one way, you can assume that the country and the campaign are used to it by now, like the drunk uncle whose behavior at my childhood best friend’s quinceañera was so predictable it even ceased to be embarrassing, as her family just brushed off his antics and accentuated the positives of the day.
But in a race that’s going to be a close one, as Biden endlessly reminds crowds while trying to stoke that 2008 feeling, you also want the strongest possible ticket. You want a No. 2 who’s ready for the White House — and you want the voters to feel just as confident with this fact — should anything happen to the president. You want a person who can ably take on the currently unknown challenger (back to those VP debate fears). You want to show a sense of loyalty, especially to a guy you’ve been pushing out to campaign for you, but you don’t want voters to think that you’re such a pushover that you’ll keep an incapable No. 2 just because you don’t want to rock the boat.
My favorite Biden story was in the Daily Rash: “Biden Warns Students – Without Jobs Bill You Could Be Sodomized Like Gaddafi” It’s perfect Biden! http://www.thedailyrash.com/biden-warns-students-without-jobs-bill-you-could-be-sodomized-like-gaddafi
i WENT TO THE WEBSITE MENTIONED HERE ABOUT tHIS STUPID bAST@@D bIDEN SPEAKING TO YOUNG INNOCENT GIRLS AND BOYS……THAT DERANGED VILLAGE idiot MORON NEEDS HIS [Sorry}….Lips sewn and glued shut….He is a sick pervert, winking at a small girl….I saw this creep up close one tim in Ga. he could not keep his drooling eyes off a lot of the ladies….I never spoke to the Scum bucket….just watched what he did….and he sickened me ….
American Crossroads: “Great”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qymIXlcO3JY
“stay or go”. I prefer he stays as he is a drag on the Obama campaign. The human gaffe machine could be fixed with the use of Teleprompters like his boss who has difficulty speaking a complete sentence, let alone any logical, reasonable content.
Remember it was Caroline Kennedy Scholossburg that was on the Veep selection committee. So it proves the point, that the third generation of wealth runs out of brains. Better to stay behind the scenes than absolutely proved an idiot.
If Hillary makes a move for that job, will she just be “Biden” her time?
Joe Biden has publicly attacked Pope Benedict XV twice. Back in 2008 he declared that the pope,s views on when life began were wrong; hence Biden,s very pro abortion position was the right view. Recently Biden has publicly delcared that homosexual marriage should be accepted by the American State as a God given right; the pope has publicly declared that homosexual marriage is outside the area of Christian matrimony. This might hurt Obama among American Catholic but since the American Catholic viewpoint is controlled by the Irish Americans who worship the Kennedy family and accept the Kennedy teachings that abortion, adultery, fornication, lying, stealing, and mistreating women are not big ceal, it should not be a problem. Notre Dame and Georgetown will always welcome the Biden-Kennedy viewpoint before they would even think of teaching the Catholic viewpoint.
Hillary would bring a competence factor to the White House, which would only serve to contrast Dear Liar’s incompetence. He’s too much of a narcissist to let that happen. Besides, then Bill would always be right off the stage, end everyone would know it and remember the better economic times when he was president.
I’m not so sure Hillary! is foolish enough to go another round with Obama, but I can see the Obama campaign switching Biden and Hillary! in their roles, making Biden SOS and Hillary! Number Two. As bitter as it would be for Obama to swallow having Bill hanging around, being affable, acting presidential, ordering pizza after hours, if it meant the difference between winning and losing in November, I say he’d do it and choke.
The use of the words “Hillary” and “competance” in the same sentence is the definition of oxymoron.
Her tenure as Sectretary of State has been shining proof of that. It isn’t improved by her proclivity for orange pantsuits.
Biden has been The One’s insurance policy from the beginning. The message from Himself Joe’s presence as VOTUS sends is;
“You’d better PRAY I stay healthy. How long do you think you’ll last with THIS yutz in my chair?
Divinely Yours, Me.”
That said, Joe the Mouth has been a boon to anyone who is the least bit concerned about the direction The One is taking the country, as well as being concerned about what is in the wind from the rest of the Democratic leadership.
This is because due to his seemingly irresistible urge to prove that he’s “the smartest guy in the room”, Joe has the unfortunate habit of running off at the mouth. And in the process blurting out things The One, Pelosi, Reid, et al., would far prefer the Great Unwashed didn’t know about. Especially all those “bitter clingers” in Flyover Country.
He’s probably the most useful “canary in the coal mine” in our political history.
He also is no threat to The One, in any way. He’s not smart enough to show Him up, or to “conspire” against Him, Agnew-style. (The One is easily as suspicious of, well, pretty much everybody else, as Nixon.)
It must have taken a long search by Schlossburg & Co. to determine exactly who the most utter nincompoop in the list of potential Veeps was. Then again, they may have picked Joe off the tops of their heads on the grounds that they couldn’t think of anybody even close. (Alfred E. Neuman and the two dorks from “Spy Vs. Spy” being ineligible due to being fictional.)
Which is just one reason that Hillary will not be sent in as a pinch-hitter for Joe in November. The One’s ego will not permit anyone He perceives as even close to his own colossal level of narcissism and self-perceived divinity that near to him. To say nothing of her ambition, which easily matches His own.
To say nothing of His sense of self-preservation. As I have said before, Duncan does not embrace Lady Macbeth.
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eon
At the rate the president’s planned scandals are unfolding, there should be no doubt that Biden is the dem nominee for actor-in-chief, and that he has always known it.
Unlike most liberal policicians (Pelosi, Harry Reed, Charles Schumer, Anthony Weiner, Boxer, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz,…) Biden is not possessed by evil demons.
He does not attack people personally.
He definitely should stay;he’s a graphic and effective advertisement about the dangers of STD”S , in his case, tertiary syphilis.
He should be replaced with that guy who resides in Texas but got 41% primary votes in WV. Together, the ticket got 100% WV primary votes and a shot in the general in an almost-must-win state, yes?
DON’T LET OBAMA DROP JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beyond his low brow entertainment value, Joe illuminates the thugocracy that characterizes Obamas’ Chicago politics. Support Joe. Let Joe speak. Enjoy.
KEEP PLUGS!!! Even with not knowing who the Romney VP pick will be I can hardly wait until the VP debates. PLUGS FOR VP!,,,,,,,the gift that keeps giving!
Oh, please please please keep Slow Joe on the ticket. He keeps us entertained.
That said, I know I’ve made my share of Slow Joe jokes in blog comments, but I’ve long suspected he’s not as stupid as his public persona. Even though the Obama administration thinks they’re using him to their advantage, I suspect he’s subtly sabotaging a president he does not respect or like.
Still, don’t run for president in 2016, Joe. Most especially, don’t run with Hillary Clinton. I don’t know why journalists keep touting her electability, but perhaps they’ve forgotten the many, many people who voted in the Democratic primary to keep her off the presidential ticket. Electing Hillary Clinton to the presidency would be just be Bill Clinton’s third term, and frankly, I don’t think anyone really wants that, no matter how “likeable” he may be.
I’m from India and head-over-heels in love with America. Though we were once ruled by the Brits and have adopted some of their customs, like driving on the left side of the road, few in America realise how much more our Constitution, written in 1951,shares so many features of the American one. Chief among them is the separation of church and state, (not found in Britain, where the Head of State is Head of Church), that states have rights which no federal govt can over-ride and that members of the upper chamber of Parliament must be elected. No hereditary House of Lords here.
Yet, I am baffled by this constitutional mandate that, should the President become incapacitated (either by death or illness), the Veep automatically becomes POTUS.
It’s not that Parliamentary systems don’t have a time-honored process of selecting a successor in an emergency. In India, when Indira Gandhi was assassinated, her son was duly elected party leader eventually.
I remember the joke going around the world when Bush Sr inadvisedly ate sushi and threw up in the Japanese PM’s lap. It was said that the whole of America ‘quailed’.
VPOTUS was a mistake. The founders had not envisioned the idea of party tickets. The mistake should be corrected. The SecStateshould be President Pro Tem pending a special election.
Even if Joe Biden is stricken from the ticket, Barack Biden will still be on it. There’s no material difference between the two, other than one has a darker tan (I forget which one). Barack is an intellectual non-weight, so is Joe. Barack is a product of the party machine, so is Joe. Barack benefits from very favorable press, so does Joe.
The sad reality is that Joe Biden exemplifies the current political class. Take a look at what comes out of Washington and tell me that they’re not a bunch of power-mad fools intent on destroying the greatest nation in the history of the world in a feeble effort to demonstrate their greatness.
The only thought that should come to mind when the name “Joe Biden” arises is “limited government”. Joe Biden is not the problem, he’s a symptom. But, Joe has to go because the voters will soon start to say “Hey, DC is full of Joe Bidens” and that’s not good for the Establishment Politicians.
STAY… he gives much needed comic relief and he’ll probably end up getting the president fired.. win win
Just three words why Obama will never allow Hillary to be VP:
Fort Marcy Park
The last thing I want the Democrats to have is a VP that attracts more votes than Biden. This election is probably going to be a tight one and I don’t want a great VP-designate to undermine the incompetent, defensive, inept, corrupt image they’ve worked so hard to earn since the last election. So, by all means, leave Biden in the VP seat.
Biden is good for the Democrat party. He points out you could be an idiot and still succeed with them.
Why was Biden chosen for VP? Easy: first rate people hire first rate people, but second rate people hire third rate people. QED
Hillary doesn’t want to be Obama’s #2.
In fact, given the current state of the Democrat party, I suspect she and hubby Bill would prefer to stay as far away from the WH as possible until the ongoing implosion is over. I would even go so far as to say that the Clintons may well be indulging in a little Schadenfreude, anticipating watching Obama’s term end in ignominious defeat, since they have little reason to love him, having been usurped in 2008 by this nobody Senator when Hillary ran in the primary.
As for Joe Biden, I think they’ve already spent so much on Obama/Biden bumper stickers that they couldn’t possibly dump him at this point. Or so I hope, since he’s the next best thing to a conservative “Manchurian candidate,” and isn’t at all an asset to Obama’s already discredited regime. =^[.]^=
Joe Biden seems to be a decent human being, although his political viewpoints are confused, if not utterly mysterious. Perhaps it is the Irish in him, that trace of pre-Christian occultism that allows him to repudiate Christian beliefs while playing out its rituals.
Obama can’t replce Joe with Hillary because Michelle won’t let him. That should be pretty obvious. Michelle hates both of the Clintons equally.
Everything is going according to plan. Obama knows that Joe is baggage he doesn’t need nor can afford. Joe will step down for medical reasons and a new running mate will be chosen. I’m gonna guess it will be a Hispanic women.
He is losing the black vote because he has not helped them at all. No hope and change came to them but the gays got the prize. You can always tell when you have been throw under the bus. You have tire tread marks all over your body.
And it hurts right where the vote is.
So much political energy has been spent on the 3% of Americans that call themselves gay, at the expense of the blacks, but 0samb0 knows that the blacks have nowhere to run to, and the only thing that ahey can do is stay home on election day….but they may not because they will be offered everything from new tennis shoes, cell phones, illegal drugs, money, alcohol…..as they were given 3.5 years ago…..every concerned American better get to the polls on election day…..And i did not say what will happen to the poor deceived American Jewery, because most has their brain in the same place as Mr. Weinner had his…..all comidy and no serious thinking…..
Joe will be there to the bitter end.
When was the last time Obama admitted a mistake for anything?
He’s too much the narcissist…
Biden is pushing 70. He could set a wonderful example for all the other geriatric, over-the-hill diehards in Washington by ‘fessing up and admitting the obvious, that he is too old. Imagine the kudos and the thanks of a grateful nation he would receive if he were to give a speech along these lines: “A person who is the proverbial heartbeat away from the presidency must be certain in his own mind that if called upon to step in he is up to the job. In all honesty I no longer have that certainty. I feel physically fine, but I can’t say that I have the same energy level I did even four years ago. I think I’m still mentally sharp, but it’s hard to ignore lots of studies which show cognitive impairment begins to set in at an age younger than I am now. It’s likewise hard to ignore life expectancy statistics which suggest that I am in the November, if not the early December, of my life. If as the result of some tragedy I was called upon to step in and serve as president I could, for now. The question is, for how long, and how effective would I be? Given these realistic self doubts I have concluded that it would be not right for me, and unfair to the nation, to stand again as a candidate for Office of Vice President.”
That whole obummer administration must be kicked out. They are a disgrace to this country.
I have a feeling Biden or one of his family are going to come down with some illness forcing Old Joe to drop out as VP candidate for 2012. Dang it! He really wants to get after those nasty Republicans but….Hello Hillary. The only thing that would stop that is if Hillary says no. She might say no if she thinks Barack is a lost cause for 2012. She will then stay out of the campaign as best she can looking to run for the big job in 2016.
Eon got it right in saying that Biden is Obama’s insurance policy. To be more specific, Biden is Obama’s impeachment insurance: Even facing a potential republican House and Senate majority after the 2012 election, nobody is going to impeach Obama no matter how much he runs roughshod over the Constitution, simply because Biden is just as radical but far more stupid. Not surprising that a man like Obama, who needs to feel he’s the smartest guy in the room, would pick and retain a lightweight like Biden as his VP.