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		<title>By: Distraught</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-the-gop-help-the-democrats-govern/#comment-442483</link>
		<dc:creator>Distraught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one is admittedly way out there and not practical - should not be seriously considered - but neither is much else: Every 4 years we spend upwards of 100 million dollars on an election, less in off years, and usually get screwed regardless. What if instead we printed somewhat mutable platforms on a &#039;tree&#039;, had plenty `o debates, and gave the rest to charity, or the ER&#039;s. This industry produces no wealth, only ends up eating it (govt - and no, outcome is bad, see screwing, above).

One should scoff at the thought of no advertising... but, maybe if it&#039;s worth saying at all, it can be said face 2 face. I for one am tired of seeing just how well a message can be prepped. I largely want to see if they have heart or not. Silly I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is admittedly way out there and not practical &#8211; should not be seriously considered &#8211; but neither is much else: Every 4 years we spend upwards of 100 million dollars on an election, less in off years, and usually get screwed regardless. What if instead we printed somewhat mutable platforms on a &#8216;tree&#8217;, had plenty `o debates, and gave the rest to charity, or the ER&#8217;s. This industry produces no wealth, only ends up eating it (govt &#8211; and no, outcome is bad, see screwing, above).</p>
<p>One should scoff at the thought of no advertising&#8230; but, maybe if it&#8217;s worth saying at all, it can be said face 2 face. I for one am tired of seeing just how well a message can be prepped. I largely want to see if they have heart or not. Silly I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Distraught</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-the-gop-help-the-democrats-govern/#comment-442285</link>
		<dc:creator>Distraught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems is just the left flank, if you&#039;ll forgive me. They start with something so far left that even if you get &#039;compromises&#039;, I mean... it&#039;s the same thing he&#039;s doing with the country.  It&#039;s a big sell job, that&#039;s why it took so long.  We have been jerked so far sideways he can meander back any old way he wants for 2012. Heck, maybe even make himself look like Reagan. One day people will wake up somewhere else, like me.

But look, the whole things a grab as you say, so &#039;playing&#039; has to have the appropriate definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems is just the left flank, if you&#8217;ll forgive me. They start with something so far left that even if you get &#8216;compromises&#8217;, I mean&#8230; it&#8217;s the same thing he&#8217;s doing with the country.  It&#8217;s a big sell job, that&#8217;s why it took so long.  We have been jerked so far sideways he can meander back any old way he wants for 2012. Heck, maybe even make himself look like Reagan. One day people will wake up somewhere else, like me.</p>
<p>But look, the whole things a grab as you say, so &#8216;playing&#8217; has to have the appropriate definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Distraught</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-the-gop-help-the-democrats-govern/#comment-442161</link>
		<dc:creator>Distraught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds great but... every R vote moves it that much further left so not clear how that works; unless you are of my first post&#039;s persuasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds great but&#8230; every R vote moves it that much further left so not clear how that works; unless you are of my first post&#8217;s persuasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this idea is that once Boobily and his gang get what they want, there won&#039;t be any fixing the mess and there won&#039;t be any more elections anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this idea is that once Boobily and his gang get what they want, there won&#8217;t be any fixing the mess and there won&#8217;t be any more elections anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Distraught</title>
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		<dc:creator>Distraught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You, out there. Do you not know we all fall short? If there is anything good in what I say it is surely by His grace alone. I ask you to now hear and judge messages, not the messenger, for ever more. The Way is great because of the message not the messenger.

Give the people something worthy of their sacrifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You, out there. Do you not know we all fall short? If there is anything good in what I say it is surely by His grace alone. I ask you to now hear and judge messages, not the messenger, for ever more. The Way is great because of the message not the messenger.</p>
<p>Give the people something worthy of their sacrifice.</p>
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		<title>By: Distraught</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-the-gop-help-the-democrats-govern/#comment-441886</link>
		<dc:creator>Distraught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is of course right on. Thanks Mr. Moran. We should not forget though that there is one issue we must pay utmost attention to. Often in weighing decisions I consider what I might regret most, and:

I wonder how many else would feel sick at night knowing we left that place overseas in a condition similar to that which led to an unspeakable atrocity here, and at such a cost, let alone find him whose name should not be renowned. I also wonder if anyone else finds it somewhat disgraceful to our fellow patriot citizens, our last line of defense who did not falter, that we have not built upon WTC nor the hallowed ground. That being said, I find voices like mine, without rifles, spurious. Maybe we should ask them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is of course right on. Thanks Mr. Moran. We should not forget though that there is one issue we must pay utmost attention to. Often in weighing decisions I consider what I might regret most, and:</p>
<p>I wonder how many else would feel sick at night knowing we left that place overseas in a condition similar to that which led to an unspeakable atrocity here, and at such a cost, let alone find him whose name should not be renowned. I also wonder if anyone else finds it somewhat disgraceful to our fellow patriot citizens, our last line of defense who did not falter, that we have not built upon WTC nor the hallowed ground. That being said, I find voices like mine, without rifles, spurious. Maybe we should ask them?</p>
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		<title>By: Distraught</title>
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		<dc:creator>Distraught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder if it is possible to make a &#039;simple&#039; argument as to why government spending is not only less stimulating than private, but not financially productive at all. It seems that the programs are inherently designed to break even, thus can never, nor will they improve or generate any wealth, and also the government doesn&#039;t pay income tax, or something like that (or does it and that&#039;s the problem), i.e. its commerce is not &#039;part&#039; of the economy. Probably not correct, yet my feeling is somehow that it is silliness and we should be able to put the idea behind us.

Also, even if one had an aversion to refusing to &#039;help&#039; &#039;govern&#039;, I think we can all agree that opposing these disasters will be popular next election, while supporting them will not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder if it is possible to make a &#8216;simple&#8217; argument as to why government spending is not only less stimulating than private, but not financially productive at all. It seems that the programs are inherently designed to break even, thus can never, nor will they improve or generate any wealth, and also the government doesn&#8217;t pay income tax, or something like that (or does it and that&#8217;s the problem), i.e. its commerce is not &#8216;part&#8217; of the economy. Probably not correct, yet my feeling is somehow that it is silliness and we should be able to put the idea behind us.</p>
<p>Also, even if one had an aversion to refusing to &#8216;help&#8217; &#8216;govern&#8217;, I think we can all agree that opposing these disasters will be popular next election, while supporting them will not.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are there Republicans?  Donno.
Why are there Conservatives?

To oppose all of those politicos who would ruin the nation by raiding the common treasury, seemingly in the name of humanity, but actually to fill their own pockets and increase their own power over the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are there Republicans?  Donno.<br />
Why are there Conservatives?</p>
<p>To oppose all of those politicos who would ruin the nation by raiding the common treasury, seemingly in the name of humanity, but actually to fill their own pockets and increase their own power over the public.</p>
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		<title>By: whatitsworth</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-the-gop-help-the-democrats-govern/#comment-441614</link>
		<dc:creator>whatitsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moran lives to show &quot;jumping the shark&quot; isn&#039;t a one-time deal with blogs. This is so utterly divorced from reality it doesn&#039;t merit much response, but all together now, let&#039;s do &quot;bipartisan&quot; entitlement reform:

D (and Morans): &quot;We need the R leadership to help us with entitlement reform.&quot;

R: &quot;OK.&quot;

D (without the RINO chorus): &quot;You Republicans want old folks to eat dog food!&quot;

It wouldn&#039;t be that subtle, though.

After all of us watched the Dems undermine and demagogue the war effort, including Mr. Anti-Surge President Himself and his fellow left-wing liars and hypocrites, to answer the asinine headline question to this blog: it isn&#039;t even possible. All Republicans can and should do is undermine this president and Congress at each and every turn and work overtime to see them washed to sea. It can and will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moran lives to show &#8220;jumping the shark&#8221; isn&#8217;t a one-time deal with blogs. This is so utterly divorced from reality it doesn&#8217;t merit much response, but all together now, let&#8217;s do &#8220;bipartisan&#8221; entitlement reform:</p>
<p>D (and Morans): &#8220;We need the R leadership to help us with entitlement reform.&#8221;</p>
<p>R: &#8220;OK.&#8221;</p>
<p>D (without the RINO chorus): &#8220;You Republicans want old folks to eat dog food!&#8221;</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be that subtle, though.</p>
<p>After all of us watched the Dems undermine and demagogue the war effort, including Mr. Anti-Surge President Himself and his fellow left-wing liars and hypocrites, to answer the asinine headline question to this blog: it isn&#8217;t even possible. All Republicans can and should do is undermine this president and Congress at each and every turn and work overtime to see them washed to sea. It can and will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: venividivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>venividivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60

&lt;i&gt;Then why ARE their Republicans?&lt;/i&gt;

Because there are some &quot;public goods&quot; that only government can provide. Doing those things efficiently and without corruption SHOULD be the goal of Republicans. For everything else, civil, rather than political, society should be the preferred method of achieving it. If everything becomes political (including &quot;guilt&quot;, &quot;innocence&quot; and &quot;crime&quot;), then society becomes indistinguishable from the &quot;law of the jungle&quot;.</description>
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<p><i>Then why ARE their Republicans?</i></p>
<p>Because there are some &#8220;public goods&#8221; that only government can provide. Doing those things efficiently and without corruption SHOULD be the goal of Republicans. For everything else, civil, rather than political, society should be the preferred method of achieving it. If everything becomes political (including &#8220;guilt&#8221;, &#8220;innocence&#8221; and &#8220;crime&#8221;), then society becomes indistinguishable from the &#8220;law of the jungle&#8221;.</p>
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