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	<title>Comments on: The Game on Your Wii: Now Rated R</title>
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		<title>By: Thrasymachus</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-that-game-on-your-wii-be-rated-r/#comment-87353</link>
		<dc:creator>Thrasymachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;War on Violent Video Games&quot; suffers, ultimately, from the same exact infirmities that doomed the &#039;80s &quot;War on Porn.&quot; To wit:

1) The complete absence of any evidence linking the objectionable media&#039;s availability to any negative real-world consequenses of any sort, anywhere, for anyone, ever; and

2) The widespread and inevitable distribution of said media by channels that are almost impossible to control. 

Anyway, although correlation is hardly proof of causation, if either porn or violent video games were going to submerge the world in ruin, it would have done so by now. Instead, we find a decrease in violent crime of every kind over the last 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;War on Violent Video Games&#8221; suffers, ultimately, from the same exact infirmities that doomed the &#8217;80s &#8220;War on Porn.&#8221; To wit:</p>
<p>1) The complete absence of any evidence linking the objectionable media&#8217;s availability to any negative real-world consequenses of any sort, anywhere, for anyone, ever; and</p>
<p>2) The widespread and inevitable distribution of said media by channels that are almost impossible to control. </p>
<p>Anyway, although correlation is hardly proof of causation, if either porn or violent video games were going to submerge the world in ruin, it would have done so by now. Instead, we find a decrease in violent crime of every kind over the last 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My kids play Wii and Nitendo games, and I used to write software (but never liked to play computer games). The only way that I can detect the game&#039;s content is by being around when they play these games. Most of these games are very complex, with various &#039;paths&#039;. It is not possible for me to exercise all of these paths to verify that there is no objectionable material.

I have a similar problem with the various kids/teens shows from Nickelodeon, etc. We can&#039;t be living our kids&#039; lives, but at the same time as parents we do need some help from the vendors. After all, we rely on Burger King (just as an example.. we do not feast there all the time, but limit it to once a week!) to tell us what&#039;s (ingredients, calories, fat) in their meal.

If I see an &#039;R&#039; on a DVD or a game, I will exercise judgement in getting it for my kids, and will further exercise caution when they start using it. So I think it is a good idea to have some rating on the game. It will help me. Let the company, based on its knowledge of their product, describe the nature of its product, and I as an adult parent will decide whether that is appropriate for my kids that I know very well. Fair enough?

My wife and I rarely drink alcohol, and until I tasted Mike&#039;s Hard Lemonade when I was in my thirties, I would not have even known that it had alcohol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My kids play Wii and Nitendo games, and I used to write software (but never liked to play computer games). The only way that I can detect the game&#8217;s content is by being around when they play these games. Most of these games are very complex, with various &#8216;paths&#8217;. It is not possible for me to exercise all of these paths to verify that there is no objectionable material.</p>
<p>I have a similar problem with the various kids/teens shows from Nickelodeon, etc. We can&#8217;t be living our kids&#8217; lives, but at the same time as parents we do need some help from the vendors. After all, we rely on Burger King (just as an example.. we do not feast there all the time, but limit it to once a week!) to tell us what&#8217;s (ingredients, calories, fat) in their meal.</p>
<p>If I see an &#8216;R&#8217; on a DVD or a game, I will exercise judgement in getting it for my kids, and will further exercise caution when they start using it. So I think it is a good idea to have some rating on the game. It will help me. Let the company, based on its knowledge of their product, describe the nature of its product, and I as an adult parent will decide whether that is appropriate for my kids that I know very well. Fair enough?</p>
<p>My wife and I rarely drink alcohol, and until I tasted Mike&#8217;s Hard Lemonade when I was in my thirties, I would not have even known that it had alcohol!</p>
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		<title>By: pashley</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-that-game-on-your-wii-be-rated-r/#comment-85931</link>
		<dc:creator>pashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government regulation is propelled by people and interests that want to regulate everything.   To them, there is no such thing as an equal exchange, and so, instead, each exchange, buying and selling, must be framed within a legal and regulatory framework, driven by the hypothetical most vulnerable person in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government regulation is propelled by people and interests that want to regulate everything.   To them, there is no such thing as an equal exchange, and so, instead, each exchange, buying and selling, must be framed within a legal and regulatory framework, driven by the hypothetical most vulnerable person in society.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an odd law, and completely unnecessary. I live in Texas, and I&#039;m a big fan of video games. I have never bought a video game that did not show the ESRB rating on the front of the box. Mandating something that already exists is a bit silly.

I used to play a lot of games online through Xbox Live but now I rarely play online. I grew tired of playing mature games with children. It&#039;s a big problem, enough so that underage kids have earned the nickname of squeakers because of their prepubescent voices. Players normally ridicule the squeakers to get them to leave but they often refuse, ruining the game for adult players. While there are ways to rate players and even report them for inappropriate behavior, Microsoft has so far refused to add underage as an offense or a rating. There is simply no way to report these kids for playing games they shouldn&#039;t be playing. If parents won&#039;t police their children, other gamers will but we aren&#039;t given the opportunity to do so.

I attend midnight launches for some games and they often take place on weekdays during the school season. This does not deter some intrepid parents from bringing their underage kids to the launch of rated M games. These kids are frequently allowed to stay home from school the next day to play the games they shouldn&#039;t be playing. No amount of government regulation will prevent those parents from buying the games for their kids. Only outright censorship could stop those parents. My favorite game retailer is Game Stop and I have seen their employees ask for ID when young folks try to buy a rated M game. I have also seen them refuse to sell games to underage kids.

Parents are the only valid targets for blame, not the gaming industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an odd law, and completely unnecessary. I live in Texas, and I&#8217;m a big fan of video games. I have never bought a video game that did not show the ESRB rating on the front of the box. Mandating something that already exists is a bit silly.</p>
<p>I used to play a lot of games online through Xbox Live but now I rarely play online. I grew tired of playing mature games with children. It&#8217;s a big problem, enough so that underage kids have earned the nickname of squeakers because of their prepubescent voices. Players normally ridicule the squeakers to get them to leave but they often refuse, ruining the game for adult players. While there are ways to rate players and even report them for inappropriate behavior, Microsoft has so far refused to add underage as an offense or a rating. There is simply no way to report these kids for playing games they shouldn&#8217;t be playing. If parents won&#8217;t police their children, other gamers will but we aren&#8217;t given the opportunity to do so.</p>
<p>I attend midnight launches for some games and they often take place on weekdays during the school season. This does not deter some intrepid parents from bringing their underage kids to the launch of rated M games. These kids are frequently allowed to stay home from school the next day to play the games they shouldn&#8217;t be playing. No amount of government regulation will prevent those parents from buying the games for their kids. Only outright censorship could stop those parents. My favorite game retailer is Game Stop and I have seen their employees ask for ID when young folks try to buy a rated M game. I have also seen them refuse to sell games to underage kids.</p>
<p>Parents are the only valid targets for blame, not the gaming industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More to the point; at least ratings are a lot better than outright censorship.

This is a function of our world today, where even parenting is done in 15-second spans. Instead of parents reading to their children, we have DVD rentals, for instance. Parents trying to purchase videogames for their children, for instance, can just look at the ESRB rating and make their decision based on that label.

Seemingly, reading the title and/or the backcover is too hard for these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More to the point; at least ratings are a lot better than outright censorship.</p>
<p>This is a function of our world today, where even parenting is done in 15-second spans. Instead of parents reading to their children, we have DVD rentals, for instance. Parents trying to purchase videogames for their children, for instance, can just look at the ESRB rating and make their decision based on that label.</p>
<p>Seemingly, reading the title and/or the backcover is too hard for these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see an article like this that defends the games industry, published outside the game enthusiast press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see an article like this that defends the games industry, published outside the game enthusiast press.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/should-that-game-on-your-wii-be-rated-r/#comment-85203</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Videos games have just about the most accurate and truethful advertising (at least regarding content) of any media out there.  If you take GTA or God of War or a similar mature title and read the summary on the back it will promise you in graphic detail exactly what the game will entail. And while the &quot;Hot Coffe&quot; scandal with GTA was not advertised, is that really any worse than what the game out right promises (vehicle theft, vehicular manslaughter, prostitutes, drug dealing, and copiuos blunt force trauma)? You want to address the problem, just look at the video games your buying your child (they&#039;re 60 bucks, kids shouldn&#039;t be buying them with pocket change anyways).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Videos games have just about the most accurate and truethful advertising (at least regarding content) of any media out there.  If you take GTA or God of War or a similar mature title and read the summary on the back it will promise you in graphic detail exactly what the game will entail. And while the &#8220;Hot Coffe&#8221; scandal with GTA was not advertised, is that really any worse than what the game out right promises (vehicle theft, vehicular manslaughter, prostitutes, drug dealing, and copiuos blunt force trauma)? You want to address the problem, just look at the video games your buying your child (they&#8217;re 60 bucks, kids shouldn&#8217;t be buying them with pocket change anyways).</p>
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		<title>By: spool32</title>
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		<dc:creator>spool32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lisa:

Charges of corrupting youth led to Socrates&#039; execution... so yes, I think you&#039;re quite right.</description>
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<p>Charges of corrupting youth led to Socrates&#8217; execution&#8230; so yes, I think you&#8217;re quite right.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The simple way to control such games would be to make sure the computer/xbox is in the kitchen or the livingroom, that is where the rest of the family hangs out.

I guess that is too simple, eh?  Laws are so much more official, and gets the State into the center of the action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple way to control such games would be to make sure the computer/xbox is in the kitchen or the livingroom, that is where the rest of the family hangs out.</p>
<p>I guess that is too simple, eh?  Laws are so much more official, and gets the State into the center of the action.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting historical sidebar on this controversy over whether violent video games make violent kids. Apparently in the 1880s, there was a huge hue and cry over the fact that the &quot;penny dreadfuls&quot; and dime novels that were glorifying Billy the Kid in the midst of his crime spree were going to corrupt American youth and turn them toward crime.

If we researched far enough, we&#039;d probably find contemporary pundits who said the bloody Greek Tragedies were also corrupting youth.

So the debate goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting historical sidebar on this controversy over whether violent video games make violent kids. Apparently in the 1880s, there was a huge hue and cry over the fact that the &#8220;penny dreadfuls&#8221; and dime novels that were glorifying Billy the Kid in the midst of his crime spree were going to corrupt American youth and turn them toward crime.</p>
<p>If we researched far enough, we&#8217;d probably find contemporary pundits who said the bloody Greek Tragedies were also corrupting youth.</p>
<p>So the debate goes on.</p>
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