Sheriff Dupnik: An MSNBC Star Is Born
And the word of the month is: vitriol.
For this there is perhaps no one who deserves more credit than Clarence Dupnik, sheriff of Pima County, Ariz., who only hours after the Jan. 8 shooting rampage in Tucson addressed reporters, and through them a nation he found wanting. “And I think it’s time, as a country,” he said, “that we need to do a little soul-searching. Because I think it’s the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business, and what we see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it’s time that we did the soul searching.”
Some reporters, keen to the birth of a new star in the media cosmos, asked the sheriff to expand on his remarks, which he was only too happy to do. “When you look at unbalanced people,” he said, “how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government, the anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. And unfortunately Arizona, I think, has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.” (If I may be forgiven a brief tangent here, given that non-Muslims are forbidden from so much as entering the city, isn’t the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry really Mecca?)
And a media star was indeed born. After presumably searching his own soul and finding it pure, Dupnik continued to harp on this theme for the rest of the week, condemning political vitriol to anyone and everyone who strayed nearby long enough to offer him a camera and microphone. And there were lots of media outlets that, eager to apportion blame for the Tucson outrage on people other than the accused killer, offered both. Among these was MSNBC, that well known paragon of reasoned and restrained political debate.
Though one might argue about which of MSNBC’s hosts is the most vitriolic, I think the consensus among people who pay attention to such things is that it would be Keith Olbermann. The irony apparently lost on Sheriff Dupnik, he appeared on Olbermann’s Countdown program, where most evenings the host anoints someone, most often a conservative politician or media figure, as the “Worst Person in the World.”
Are all Deem’o'crats corrupt Race card playing HYPOCRITES . You bet your life they are and even the Huffington Post can see it. Yes EVEN Huffpo cant ignore this RACIST scam.
“The Congressional Black Caucus vs Black Farmers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/the-congressional-black-c_b_809169.html
Seems like urban Race card playing lying Blacks like to cheat their Rural Black cousins too.
There is only one color that the Black Caucus and most politicians live for. That is the color green money plus anything of value for themselves! Corruption knows no color, religion or status.
“I think that I have a legal responsibility to do that,” said Dupnik.
Apparently is was not sheriff Dumbnik’s responsibility to provide the information he had on the AZ shooter to the proper authorities, so a background check – NICS – would have denied the Tucson shooter the ‘legal’ gun used in the massacre.
Even in Today’s Zaman, Paul Helmke, the gun-grabber Numero Uno, testified that “While we don’t know all the details, we know Jared Loughner was deemed too dangerous to attend college. We know he had been arrested on drug charges and rejected for enlistment by the military.”
He cops went to visit Loughner’s home, and these incidentss should have shown in the NICS, but they weren’t because Dumbnik didn’t do his duty.
Yup, Olberfool is making a hero out of a dumb and irresponsible sheriff.
Most chiefs of police and sheriffs are pro-gun-control nuts. This daisy is no different.
I agree, I’d rather take my chances with the nuts.
However, most beat cops are the dead opposite. This was made abundantly clear in Washington State 10 or 15 years ago when a gun control initiative (backed by Bill Gates) on the ballot was supported by all the major Chiefs of Police, and eventually defeated resoundingly by the police union.
In gun-grabbing industry the police chief’s and sheriffs matter – great advertising to use those fockers in propaganda.
I don’t recall the WA war on guns, but my experience is that street cops indeed are more pro-gun than their chiefs and sheriffs.
Good for them.
Thanks for reminding me.
Depends on what neighborhoods the beat cops work in…in true urban dog eat dog shit-holes, they tend to be anti-gun…
in less violent neighborhoods, where there is some social infrastructure/oasis like are stores, schools and churches, they are more like 50/50.
Burbs and rural areas are higher, maybe 75% would ALLOW private ownership if they controlled things…Note I said ALLOW, as most cops dont really believe we have a ‘Right” to be armed…thats “their” job, or so they think.
Seriff Dupnik’s name should more fittingly be Dopenik, for his dopey remarks.
When we hear more of the story…that the law ignored a lot of things, no one worried about turning the shooter into anyone that might help him etc..I can certainly understand why the sheriff blames Palin
..yeah, my thoughts exactly. The country that elected this man deserves exactly the protection they get.
Why didn’t Sheriff Dupnik have deputies assigned to the event if he believed it was surrounded by such “vitriol?”
Excellent question. I was wondering the same thing. It seems like the sheriff only had his epiphany about the danger of vitriol when the opportunity for his 15 minutes of fame presented itself.
I disagree, snork; the good sheriff had his epiphany when he realized that his department had dropped the ball on this one and that he needed a fall guy before the 24-hour newscycle ran him over. If anyone needs a demonstration of what the red herring metaphor is all about, this is it.
But don’t you see, America? That is and always has been the standard tactic of the left. You always answer vitriol (whether it’s there or not) with more vitriol, and then say that it’s the other guy’s fault for the vitriol in the first place.
It’s the same thing on blogs. A left-wing person will accuse conservatives of being “bigots” or “racists” or, worse, responsible for the acts of a crazy person. Then when a conservative responds by saying that those charges are idiotic and are not based in fact, then the left-wing person says, “You see, you see, look at how uncivil those nasty conservativse are. They just called me an idiot!” And it goes on and on. Nuts on the Daily Kos or Huffington Post hurl every insult known to man at conservatives, but let a conservative respond and they are called “hate-mongers” and “uncivil.” And the main stream media is complicit in this because they never, ever, examine the original words that started the whole fight.
Well, I’m done. I’ve had enough of the back and forth with far-left crazies. You can’t be civil with people who want only to destroy you. You can’t compromise with people who’s idea of a compromise is for you to give up and do what they want you to do. And you certainly can’t be civil with people who think they’re constantly superior to you and that if you have temerity to disagree with them, then you’re the enemy and need to be destroyed. That’s enough. You see it here and you see it all over the Internet.
Personally, I’m sick of being attacked by these people who think they have the right to tell us how to live, how we get medical care, how all of our money should be spent, and how private property is evil and that we need to “redistribute” everything in the world to make things fair. When I was growing up, that was called Communism. Times may change, but words don’t.
So enough is enough. If you get a far-left person who says conservatives are the root cause of all evil, respond. Don’t let them get away with it. Shout them down, because they will certainly do the same thing to you to get what they want. This is verbal warfare and pretending you’re Gandhi will only sentence you to a lifetime of slavery to an all-powerful government. And, as we have so clearly seen with people like Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, the cost of not standing up to these people is horrific.
agreed 100%
there is no civil discourse with the left
the left is an illusion based on falsehoods and lawlessness
the left exist in the cloak of the democratic party to maintain the image of credibility
their preemptive cries of racism, hate, incivility create nothing but a mire of confusion whenever conservatives attempt to peel the onion
we should refuse to acknowledge the existence of the left and get our message out to those that haven’t been totally derailed from reality
the idiot sheriff of pima county is responsible for huge swaths of american soil to be occupied by foreign invaders and is incompetent enough to let the likes of a lunatic go through the cracks even though dozens of red flags exist…
nevermind all the momentum that the new house of representatives were creating the week before tucson— now they get a week off and that momentum has been stymied by the shenanigans of the left and our unwillingness to focus on the real issues
“Personally, I’m sick of being attacked by these people who think they have the right to tell us how to live, how we get medical care, how all of our money should be spent, and how private property is evil and that we need to “redistribute” everything in the world to make things fair. When I was growing up, that was called Communism. Times may change, but words don’t.”
Well said. I can tell by your name you know what you’re talkin’ about.
Well said, I agree 101%. When I grew up during the 40/50ties in Switzerland, we used to slur people we didn’t respect for some reason or other, communist. I believe dupnick would be a fun name to insult people with today. It is clear that the good sheriff slacked off in his job and he is now trying desperately to make himself look good by slamming people who are in disagreement with his politics. Isn’t that the way the left works at all times?
As an Australian ,I can give an honest answer to the question of which side spews the most rubbish??????
I’m sorry,but the Democrats have the prize. It is they who every day use innuendos and hints to tell the world what a mess America is in.You have a President who cares little for the unemployed,for they can come to rely on the Gov for their meagre rations.Plus,after a while they won’t even question who’s paying for it.He spends his time half on the golf course and half on holiday.He admires Europe,but they don’t return the compliment,for they feel it was his ideas that had Greece and Ireland in so much trouble.Then theres the media,led by the NY Times.A paper that was so grand at one time,I remember it in my childhood as being the top of all medfia lists.BUT ,Sadly they have employed people like Krugman,who does not want the truth,hell,he will just go and make it up to suit whatever purpose he wants for that day’s column.If the Coservatives did not but the NYTimes to read what the left is talking about,hell ,no one would buy the rag,except maybe to start a fire.Lastly the Cable channels that fight to see who tells the biggest whoppers.I like Fox,BUT I think they have a death wish for they employ lefties like Geraldo,who wants amnesty for those that break the law.The moms and dads are all right but it’s the gangbangers that come with them that are the biggest threat.Neither Geraldo,Nepolitano(judge) or Democrats in general don’t seem to understand that illegals AS A WHOLE, are bad medicine. Sorry America,I hope you pull through,and I hope you get the President you deserve.God Bless.
too bloody right mate, and if you were within arms reach i’d buy you a beer or three.
As an anti-partisan populist, I only half agree with the sheriff. Certainly the vitriol coming from ALL media and political parties creates a poisonous atmosphere in which a paranoid person will consider themselves permitted to enact a vendetta against whomever is “out to get them”. Everything from Olbermann’s worst person “awards” and MoveOn.org’s “Bush lied. Millions died.” lawn signs to Palin’s cross-hairs and Angle’s “second amendment remedies” contributes to the same from either side in a continuing crescendo of hate until some shocking murder forces a sudden and brief diminuendo. Since the targets of all this vitriol are all partisan-based, it seems clear to me that the source is partisanship and not what is communicated in the media. Therefore the solution is not in restricting speech or the press, but rather the political parties. Repealing the twelfth amendment would be a good first step.
It sounds “fair and balanced” to say “both sides do it.” The problem is, in realty the left is much more vitriolic than the right. Sure, you can put up an example, like “Olberman VS Savage.” But in the WHOLE, the left is just more accepting of insult and ridicule. Not only is it an Allinksy tactic, but much of the left is young, and we all know that that kind of Jr-High mocking (Sarah Palin! LOL!) is not the sign of a mature adult.
Prove it yourself. Go to the top 5 leftist sites and the top 5 right sites. Compare the comments. Or go to the comments following partisian writing such as a Paul Krugman column. Note how many who agree are rude to the point of hostility and what party they support.
You said exactly what I thought for a long time. I become so irritated each time O’Reilly or anybody else on Fox brags about fair and balanced. O’Reilly who is really tiresome is particularly unctuous whenever he points out that “the other side does it too”. I read the so called other side myself and find rarely such vitriolic lies and cruelty displayed there as I do in left wing articles and blogs. Just disgusting. I even had to cut off what I thought were friendships with people on the left because all they are capable off is shouting insults when they realize they don’t have a valid argument on a subject. BTW Michael Savage has changed his approach a lot and he is better than ever.
“As an Australian ,I can give an honest answer to the question of which side spews the most rubbish??????”
There is no doubt about it mate, the left does.
That said, there are plenty of ignorant people on the right as well, but the prize must go to O’Reilly. The man is plain ignoramus.
The problem with the left is that they must spin the facts to support their agenda, and that makes them look silly to any intelligent American. When twisting facts don’t do the trick, they’ve to resort to other ways of attack. The strategy only works because the leftist American people are uneducated and stupid.
I wish there existed a third tier of news media that really were fair and balanced – just the facts mate.
Fox News has some very conservative (and loud-mouthed) talk show hosts, but they make no secret of their leanings.
The Fox News NEWS, on the other hand, is very, very fair and balanced; they even have liberals on their discussion panels and as guests, and they treat them fairly and with respect.
NPR, on the other hand, simply ignores any part of the story that puts liberals and liberal causes in a bad light (or works to spin the facts in a positive way), and they spew venom toward conservatives and conservative ideas, albeit in a very sophisticated, even soothing, tone of voice. Others in the MSM do the same thing; they just don’t bother with the soothing voice.
Increasingly, what the federal government does affects all of us, usually in negative ways (I’m still trying to calculate how many of what kind of incandescent light bulbs I must buy before the federal ban goes into effect, as well as where I can safely store them). I’m absolutely certain that it was not so when I was growing up in the ’40s and ’50s.
This guy along with Olberman and the rest of the far left looneys are exactly what is wrong with those that have the bully pulpit. Olberman should have been fired long ago and Dupnik should have his badge taken away and retired in shame as he continues to damn the prosecution of this heinous criminal and hurt the case against him.
Right! It looks like Dupnik is engaging in a conspiracy to cover up his, and his departments, criminal negligence.
Near the end of Sheriff Dupnik’s Jan. 10 appearance on Countdown, Keith Olbermann posed a question: “As a sheriff, is it part of your job and part of your responsibility to assess a cultural environment that might increase the chances of injury and danger to your citizens?”
“I think that I have a legal responsibility to do that,” said Dupnik.
Frightening stuff from a man in his position. I think I’d rather take my chances with the nuts.
All of us should assess Dunik and Olberman. My assessment: Nuts all around. A nut speaking to another nut about nuts in general. Some of the most inflammatory speech of the week was from Dupunik. It is ironic that he spewed his nonsense without any concern that it might motivate someone to do violence.
Another left wing nut, Eric Fuller, claimed that Palin advocated the assassination of political opponents. Where did he get that idea? No doubt someone in the vaunted MSM will investigate and report? Not bloody likely.
Left wing nut James Eric Fuller was taken away by police and is currently being held in a rubber room undergoing involuntary mental evaluations after taking a photo of a tea party leader at a recent town hall event and telling him “you’re dead”. The left likes to project their anger onto the tea party and conservatives in general, but turns around and blames them for the vitrol. I’m sure it’s all George Bushes fault. Maybe we can get involuntary mental evaluations for all liberals before more start barking at the moon. Scientific researchers have recently found what they describe as the liberal gene. Let’s all hope a cure won’t be too far behind.
There are many ways of mis-spelling Dupnik. I’ve provided two.
And nicely done. James Taranto (Best of the Web) spent weeks misspelling Lisa Morcoffsky’s name in the jesting hope that Lisa’s name would be misspelled when written in on the Alaska ballot. It was so much fun! (Too bad it didn’t work!)
What would Sheriff Dupnik say if today’s “Worst Person in the World” were to end up dead tomorrow at the hands of some deranged Keith Olbermann fan?
and what if today’s “Worst Person in the World”‘s fans decide that Olbermann, Krugman and ilk are legitimate targets?
“’As a sheriff, is it part of your job and part of your responsibility to assess a cultural environment that might increase the chances of injury and danger to your citizens?”
“’I think that I have a legal responsibility to do that,’ said Dupnik.”
“Frightening stuff from a man in his position. I think I’d rather take my chances with the nuts.”
And an attempt to cover his own arse I think for not posting at least one deputy at the rally. It is all too easy to blame it on talk radio and the conservative pundits on tv, rather than on his own failure to prevent such a tragedy or on the failure of Loughner’s parents to get him help when they could have.
“As a sheriff, is it part of your job and part of your responsibility to assess a cultural environment that might increase the chances of injury and danger to your citizens?”
“I think that I have a legal responsibility to do that,” said Dupnik.
Frightening stuff from a man in his position. I think I’d rather take my chances with the nuts.
I’m sorry I posted the same thing twice. I didn’t think the first one worked.
Mr. Dunphy,
My sentiments exactly regarding your take on Dupnik’s response to Olbermann’s last question. Wow..
Am I glad I’m not a teen in Pima County, AZ. As a teen I was, and continue to be though not as immersed, a big punk/metal music fan. The ‘cultural environment’ I partook in was safe, fun and more novel than the other stuff which passed for ‘music’ at the time.
Pima County may very well turn into the new ‘Salem’. ‘Control is compassion’.
BTW: When Olbermann names someone the Worst Person in the World, he does not even have the decency to send that person a certificate.
Does anyone think this so-called sheriff should be named DUMB S@IT his name sounds so close and his big left leaning mouth proves it.
If Sarah Palin’s use of the term “blood libel” is anti-Semitic, then wouldn’t the sheriff’s use of “Mecca” as a metaphor for something negative be considered Islamophobic?
Or does that only apply if he’s conservative?
“Or does that only apply if he’s conservative?”
In a word: Yes. In 2 words: You betcha!
Crazy accusations from people. Here’s the only way one could take the term “bloode libel” as anti-semetic:
The person obviously did not know what it meant. They went to the net and found an article telling of Egypt of other Arab group showing “The Elders…” The piece told how the accusation of blood libel in THAT CASE was anti-semetic. Then their little brains made the further “connection” that, “Oh! To say ‘blood libel’ in anti-semetic!” instead of realizing that it was ant-semetic in that context because it was a lie (LIBEL) accusing Jews of using children’s blood in religious ceremonies.
A more intelligent person would have realized that THIS CASE (the TV show) was anti-semitic, that it didn’t mean any use of the tern “blood libel” is anti-semitic. Duh. Another5 case like the one where Palin read “children’s books” because she mentioned C.S. Lewis. They are so hungry to make a fool of her that they end up making fools of themselves.
Who exactly are these people “preaching hate”? “Stop spending” and “government is overreaching” is now hate speech?
“Stop spending” and “government is overreaching” is now hate speech?
“Stop spending” has always been hate speech to those who BENEFIT from the spending.
Yep. And I heard someone on the radio the other day accusing a talk show host (a rather mild one) of spreading “hatred.” When the host asked for an example, the guy said, “You said Obama is weak.”
Their delusion is off-the-charts. Any opinion that does not agree with theirs is “hate.”
What a crock! In watching the media, both left and right, since the Presidents speech, I find it iteresting that the real vitriol and hatred continues to come from the angry left. They start by saying, well there is no connection between those we hate on the left and what the crazy shooter did, they then spend the rest of their time discussing the sins of others and increasing their level of noise. Obviously MSNBC is the leader in this, but check some of the liberal columnists and they are just as vitriolic and blaming in their comments. Do they listen to their leader or just ignore him? I was really amused to see Dennnis Kucinech defend the leadership of the House to Ed “HOLLLER” Schultz last week. When you have dedicated liberals defending John Boehner, you know something is haywire. The right needs to stop defending itself and concentrate on it’s positive agenda, which most Americans agree with. Enough already!
If you want to be entertained, watch FOX, MSNBC, or CNN. If you want real news and analysis, watch LinkTV or FreeSpeechTV.
And Sheriff Dupnik appears to be doing everything he can to destroy the case against the alleged shooter. Disgraceful for a man in his position.
An Arizona sheriff who wants political speech to be censored for the greater good. Just what we need.
I can’t imagine he’ll last long. But there’s still more fun to be had with him. Has anyone though to ask him how he feels about Arizona’s recent changes in gun-control laws? Would he also want to censor speech, say, calling for stricter border controls?
More to the point, I’d love to hear a reporter ask him — on the spot, on camera — to recite the First Amendment. Maybe he’d be able to correctly recite all five freedoms, but I’d be very much surprised if he did.
respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline
Sheriff Dip Stick needs to be fired. He is a disgrace & embarrassment. He refused to do anything about this shooter for years. The shooters Mother has been a Supervisor for Pima County Courts for years. The records on her son have not been recorded. This runs much deeper on the coverup of this shooter.
Classmates, & neighbors have reported he was a loose cannon, no pun intended.
This sheriff, Dupnik, is saying that the bitterly-charged rhetoric and hate we are exposed to every day brings out the worst in certain people.
He’s quite correct. Sorry, but he is.
Dunphy argues that Dupnik cares about this issue “only when it comes from the mouths of conservatives”. On what basis does Dunphy make this claim? Well, the only evidence he actually offers is that Dupnik appeared on Olbermann’s show.
That’s not much in the way of evidence. Before labeling this guy, what else do we know about him? Is he blaming Palin for the shootings? (Not that I know of.) Is he refusing invitations to appear on conservative talk shows? (Again, not that I know of.) Is he claiming that the right has some sort of monopoly on toxic speech? (Again, I have seen zero evidence in that regard.)
Seems to me the sheriff is saying we are suffering from an atmosphere of poisoned communications – we are quick to hate, quick to blame, quick to label, and quick to judge. It also seems to me this very poorly-documented post (and especially its sensationalist headline) is as guilty of these sins as anyone.
That’s not to say I care for Olbermann. Not at all. But to judge Dupnik strictly on a litmus test of what shows he appears on – unless he is choosing shows based on their ideology (and again, no evidence of this has been presented) – is just a way of smearing him.
Presumably, the right frowns on fingerpointing and scapegoating, such as has often been done to Sarah Palin. But are conservatives only “troubled by vitriol only when it comes from the mouths of” liberals?
If you want the left to behave better – set a better example. Otherwise, nothing’s ever going to change. (And sadly, many on the right would actually PREFER things that way.)
Documented example, please?
Sorry, Snitchy, the Left’s definition of civility is “Agree with me or else!” Sorry, no sale.
Right on…my definition of civility is “shut up conservative”. It is the latest codeword used by the left.
This sudden concern for poisonous rhetoric is quite touching – after eight years of seeing Kill Bush bumper stickers, Kill Bush T-shirts, Bush assassination fantasy books, Cindy Sheehan wondering out loud what the world would be like if Bush had been murdered as a child, and even a motion picture depicting the assassination of George Bush.
BTW, there wee no expressions of concern for poisonous rhetoric after Ronald Reagan was shot.
No; we’re going to punish our enemies by getting in their faces, punching back twice as hard, and bringing guns to fights where they bring knives.
DHOTUS has said all those things for public consumption, so I’m sure that they can’t be counted as examples of “vitriol”.
REPLY TO #24 – MISTER SNITCH
It is totally ashame to have persons like you, mr snitch to blather about your ‘feelings’ rather than dealing with ‘FACTS’. Which, mr snitch are not hard to find, you just have to look a little farther then the end of your nose.
The LEFT exposed their “true Colors” for the world to see only hours after
the horrific shooting. It gets very frustrating having to time and time again “point out truisms” to people like you mr snitch, who come along and try to throw punches without any support or a shred of evidence to back it up.
Well, here is my ‘evidence’ which leads me to believe that myself and others like myself can stand on our own Merit. Can you say the same mr snitch? Time to get your head out of the sand Mr snitch, and do your own research before you go and make yourself look foolish.
By ANDY BARR | 1/9/11 12:47 AM EST
By declaring Arizona a “mecca for racism and bigotry” and blaming heated rhetoric “on the right for the shooting” of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik gave voice to those looking for a cause of Saturday’s violence.
With Democratic party leaders for the most part showing restraint in their comments following the shootings, Dupnik expressed at a news conference Saturday night in Tucson what many liberals were thinking, but hadn’t yet said.
AND:
“Let me say one thing, because people tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol that we hear “inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that,” the “sheriff said” during a press conference.
(And I suppose KEITH OLBERMAN and his ilk makes their living by “Playing Nice” and espousing “Tolerance” ) HUH?? HUH..
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47293.html#ixzz1BDnKJETi
What you’re missing is context. It is a current, recurring theme of the left that conservative radio and Fox News spread “hate” and indulge in “hate speech.” That is the reason dupnik was able to say what he did without expressing left or right. He KNEW the current atmoshere would put it in context as “another example of right-wing hate.”
The left set it up beforehand. If the right had been accusing the left of “hate” for the past few years or banning “hate speech” in Canada and Europe, then the comment would have been comprehended by the average person differently.
The fact that he did not say “and that includes the ridicule of Palin” or some such shows that his was an attempt to soliidify opinion on the side of what the left has been implying and saying outright for years now.
Didn’t you listen to him? He was all over spewing, not just keith HUGE MOMMY ISSUES Olbermans.
He named Limbaugh for one.
Is this the best he can do in investigating a multiple murder? Get on tv and spew a bunch of lies and pave a way for the defense?
This jackalope spoke last year and said he would NOT enforce the immigration laws passed in his state. Really? He gets to pick and choose which laws he enforces?
Perhaps that’s why his county has the worst crime stats.
He is a vile, disgusting little man. If he doesn’t get voted out next time, that county deserves what they get.
It should be noted that the only concerted effort to destroy the Constitution and the the Government founded on it was mounted by Democrats. Also, I remember the urban terrorism by liberals in 1970′s that would be The Weather Underground. You know Obama’s friend and neighbor? When it comes to violence and vitriol, look left! Pima county is in need of a sheriff that is in at least marginal touch with reality.
I wonder how many times Deputy Dupnik’s department has put someone in jail already, not for the crime they were believed to have committed, but for the words they said. It seems any reasonable detached observer would wonder if an investigation might be required to determine just what kind of law enforcement “environment” is required for a known psycho to go on a shooting spree, in spite having displayed publicly his severe mental deficiency and penchant for violence.
That is the real question here my friends–what do we have to do to get police officers to deal effectively with dangerous psychopaths instead of gorging themselves and their coffers on the low-hanging fruit of speeders and sidewalk spitters? My query is directed at the department in whose jurisdiction a mass murder shooting spree just occurred of course. All other departments are presumed to be doing a good job because it hasn’t happened there.
I always keep alert for dementia;
Will I get banned for this?
All-RIGHT. I’ve been hoping that “dupnik” would work its way into the language as a synonym for “dummy.”
“What a dupnik,”You’re just being a dupnik,” or “You can’t fix dupnik.”
Mister Snitch!
Nice strawman you’ve got there. Be a shame if something should happen to it.
Seriously, you accuse the author of creating a mountain out of a molehill and then admit that you’re not really sure what the mole has been up to during the time in question. It is obvious that you are arguing from belief and not from knowledge of the facts. I advise that you stop doing that because not only is it intellectually bankrupt, it makes you look vapid. Stop feeling and start thinking sport.
Watch the video and read the transcripts of what Dupnik has said. Then, if you’re still convinced that his statements were “fair and balanced”, then make an argument to that effect based on what you observed in fact. Don’t expect people here to educate you because you are too disinterested in what actually happened to bother researching it yourself. This is not a paid position for us.
Actually Dupnik did appear of Fox News on the Megyn Kelly show. She allowed him to spout his material about vitriol being behind the shooting. She then asked him a question Olbermann never would. “Do you have any proof or your assertions or are they just your opinion?” Dupnik replied with a long winded non-answer. Kelly pressed “Do you have any proof”. Dupnik answered “No”. Kelly followed up “Just to be clear, these statements are just your opinion”. Dupnik answered “Yes.”
In my opinion case closed. Dupnik has no proof. He just has opinions like everyone else making this claim. He has no special knowledge of the issue. Thus there is no reason to accord his statement any more weight than those coming from any talking head who does not provide proof of his/her assertions.
“If you want the left to behave better – set a better example. ”
You first, jackass.
“In Dupnik, Olbermann had a genuine Arizona law man…”
You haven’t been watching. When the left needs a “genuine Arizona law man” they ALWAYS trot out Dupnik as proof “law enforcement” supports amnesty (oops, I mean “comprehenseive” immigration reform). The “law man” goes on & on about how he won’t enforce AZ’s immigration law even if it’s upheld & how “sheriff’s groups” are on his side….of course, he never mentions the “sheriff’s groups” he’s talking about have a total of 3 members. None of this is new for Dupnik OR the left…..it’s just a bigger story, w/a brighter spotlight, but only a slightly longer life expectancy.
As a liberal who believes that there is good in everyman, I think the issue with Dupnik is much less vitriol and much more senility.
I can remember a few years back when Keith was ragging on our soldiers all the time as terrorists,” He brought up a story about our soldiers blowing up a suspected terrorist safe house or what ever you call it,, come to find out when our soldiers were about to blow it up an Iraqi came out of no where with his cows and Keith Olbermann was all over this story.. After about a year later My son in-law came home for a visit and I told him what I heard on MSNBC He said that he was involved in that incident.. He explained to me that they made sure the area was cleared, they also believe the man ran his cows out to that location because he could get either $6000.00 for cow or $1000.00 all paid for by American tax payers.. I’m thinking the first amount is the one but with out any research I’m not sure but either way it’s a lot of money for them.. But I can remember Keith Olbermann at that time reporting this story with out any facts to back him up and it stayed in the back of my mind because his comments irritated me to no end
Keith Olbermann is not a fact finder but only reports half truths a lot of the times
The Pima County Sheriff’s dept was well aware of Jared Loughman’s death threats and mental instablity but they did nothing.
I don’t know what the law is in AZ but I’d love to see the Pima County Sheriff’s Dept and Sheriff Dupnik be named as defendants in a class-action wrongful death or a neglegence lawsuit. But you probably can’t sue public officials. Too bad.
I wonder if any of the left wing pundits who have been blaming conservatives for the AZ shooting will own up to inciting violence if something should happen to a conservative pundit. I’m not holding my breath.
Keith has the contagious virus going around MSNBC called the “O’Donnell Syndrome.” Keith’s so called “show” routine never included a smidgeon of intelligence but now it’s even worse, he now sounds like a cross between Mel Gibson and Ed Schultz. As the syndrome progresses it will cause Keith to fall into the “Chris Matthews phase.” This will lead Keith to start spitting when he pronounces certain words, it’s similar to Sylvester the Cat’s lisp. Sylvester’s lisp of course was much worse but at least the people he talked to stayed dry. The next phase is the Dylan Rattigan phase and he will find himself starting to spend time in Hugh Hefner’s grotto and believing the women when they tell him “you were great” or he will start believing the info coming out of MSNBC. The last stage of the syndrome is called the Lawrence O’Donnell psycho phase. This phase will start with an eye “tremor” or eye itch, similar to the one that Inspector Dryfus had (Inspector Clouseau’s enemy) in the Pink Panther movies. The angrier you get, the more it twitches. The more it twitches the angrier you get. And of course with this last phase, he will start believing the notes the Progressives have him reading.
The delusional Keith Olbermann seems outraged that several media outlets said his program is in danger of being canceled due to low ratings.
He refuted the vile rumor that his ratings are spiraling downward at an ever-increasing rate. “First the small picture on how conservatives come to believe the crazy, nonsensical, totally fact-free things they believe,” Olbermann said. “How they transform discernible, provable lies into their wishful thinking version of the truth.” He then insisted that stories of his plummeting ratings are a figment of conservatives’ imaginations and even bragged that the program’s audience has grown. Just one problem. OIbermann is flat-out lying. His ratings are going down. Big time. Bottom line: Olbermann’s audience is rapidly dwindling away. Obviously, the same math used by the President to explain how ObamaCare won’t grow the deficit is being used by Olbermann to explain how his ratings are growing instead of shrinking. And we suspect the same math is also being used to explain the number of jobs created or saved and maybe even how the world is heating instead of cooling. I have to be honest though. I will watch Keith on one condition. Delusional Supreme.
“Obviously, the same math used by the President to explain how ObamaCare won’t grow the deficit is being used by Olbermann to explain how his ratings are growing instead of shrinking”
Olbie’s probably counting prisons, the Crips, the Bloods & the Mexican Drug Cartel. They can’t get enough of him.
Hard to be very surprised that MSNBC would find the sheriff a good fit with its generous and open-minded tone. But this is a shock: Left Wing sweeps brand new Political Civility Award and Political Servility Award at http://www.granitesentry.com.
Every wonder why shows like Saturday Night Live do not mock people like Dupnik? He would be perfect fodder for them. No. Instead they mock Sarah Palin, Fox News people, talk radio etc. The media and entertainment business is a vile nest of extreme leftists that never get blamed for squat. How about the educational system? Our children are exposed to years and years of mind control from these freaks. The aforementioned are responsible for the rise of the Tea Party. People have had enough and are looking for a voice in the midst of this madness.
The sad thing is it is the people on the left calling for violence. The Hollywood people we get to see are the ones who have become rich and pampered, so they think they are the enlightened one`s who have to show us the way to live and what to believe. Look at Bill Marher he is a pathetic man who has said that the American people are stupid, he is still an American isn`t he? When has the TEA PARTY ever gotten out of line? Although they have been accused of being racist, nazis and stirring up trouble, but not one piece of evidence has been brought forward to prove any of the accusation`s.
Word of the day Dupe’Nik — Don’t be a Dupe’Nik
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/01/word-of-the-day.html
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LOL LOL Very Good! – I like it Charlie.
this guy crossed an ethical line long ago… he is inciting violence and will get somebody killed…is there a legal way to shut him up…pima county must be incredibly corrupt…whre are you mccain?
McCain? I respect his service in the military and his terrible stint as a POW.
Other than that, not so much.
He’s worse than useless, he’s dangerous in his unending desire to remain in power. He has voted wrong too many times to forgive now. Retire already.
Dumbnik’s EX-son-in-law did tell me that he is really happy to be able to tell people he is divorced
Dupnik-types do us a great service by revealing themselves to us so that we can publicly condemn them. Free speech is great stuff.
I Love these type of people that are in such elevated positions! After a short flash of anger… they put a smug smile on my face. I enjoy having that “There ya go” type of EXHIBIT A plastered across the media….Though redundant, it is educational.
When he opens his mouth,.. it seems, it is only to change feet.
….and it DOES cut down on the political ‘Debating’… when you can simply point and smile.
The more I read up on this Dupnik character, the more I’m frightened for Pima County residents! The LAST thing on Dupnik’s mind is to ‘Protect and Serve’.
A C C knew Loughner was a threat to himself and fellow students yet the Pima County Sheriff and its resources didn’t come to the same concensus?
How this guy draws a paycheck.. oh yeah – he’s a Government employee. Accountability, self sufficiency and consequences are moot.
A PERFECT example of why our country is $14,000,000,000,000 + in the hole and the MANY lives lost/effected, when hiring a P C boob like this..
I saw a graph that compared his county crime stats, to the one next door which has another flambuoyant Sheriff who is much less PC. The crime rates were startling, at least twice as high in Sheriff Dupnik county.
Does this really come as a surprise to anyone with common sense?
Liberalism is a mental disorder!
I worked in law enforcement for 25 years. I was told from the “git go” that I was NEVER to voice my personal opinion about cases and that if ever approached by the press, my standard answer was to be “no comment.” I would have been fired on the spot had I done otherwise. This Sheriff is not a lawman, he is a leftist in a uniform. SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIRE HIM!
REPLY TO JAN #45
“he is a leftist in a uniform. SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIRE HIM!”
BRAVO!! Clap Clap Clap Clap!
While this article wasn’t meant to be solely about Officer Stupnick, I think it’s worth reading if only to get another view of events after the 10am Tucson shootings. Here goes.
I’d like to present the sequence of events as I saw them played out after the Sat. Jan. 8, shooting at Tucson, Arizona where 6 were murdered and 12 wounded, including a congresswoman by a very mentally deranged man, Jarad, Loughner.
Just hours after the slaughter, Paul Krugman was preparing an article for the NY Times that blamed the event on Sarah Palin and conservative uncivility. Hours after that, Clarence Dupnic, Sheriff of Puma county who knew a mentally unstable man lived only blocks away from the shooting yet sent no one to at least make sure the political event went smoothly and safely, said, with nothing to back it up, that right wing virtriol probably caused the shooter to act. Or snap. Or loosen the final psychopathian screw in the nuts head.
With no evidence this was the case, the mainstream media, using the dead as a jump off point leapt to the Dupnic conclusion, naming Palin, Beck, O’reilly and other conservatives, blaming them for the actions of the murderer.
Reacting like they smelled conservative blood in the water, CBS TV, ABC TV and CBS news embraced this narrative like they had found the Holy Grail.
Hate speech of every kind directed at you and the other conservatives gushed out of msnbc like they’d struck oil.
Four days after the shooting, President Obama gave his Tucson speech.
After saying thoughtful, comforting words about the dead and injured, Obama, like a relay race runner, picked up the lack of civility theme in the news for the prior four days and, even though, by then it had been shown to have no connection with the shooting, ran with it.
Keep in mind this was the President who a week before had called conservatives hostage takers and had recently called conservatives enemies. Who talked about hand to hand combat with conservatives and referred to bringing a gun to a political knife fight. He’d been stoking the flames of hate and labeling conservatives racist cowards since being elected president, even let voter intimidating Black Panthers get off scot free. All of which suggests Obama acts like a classic do as I say not as I do hypocrite.
So Wednesday, I asked myself, why did Obama talk about incivility and sharply divided discourse when it was irrelevant to the memorial? Was he continuing the attack on conservatives without naming them?
If not, was he directing his words at the left who had adopted that theme as the cause of the deaths? I don’t think so.
To me, this was Obama’s clever way of telling the anti conservative bomb throwers that he sided with them.
To me, the subject of civility, unless Obama decided to chastise the left for jumping off the bodies of the dead to score political points, had no place in the speech. It was the case of a talented speechwriter from Northwestern University unloading on conservatives without naming names.
Continuing a theme (uncivility)that not only had no reason to be in the speech, but that had since the shooting been used to nail conservatives on a manufactured cross of hate and shame.
Like usual, it was a prime example of leftists accusing the right of doing the repugnant things they, themselves, were the ones guilty of.
Does the left have a shred of decency? Does the commieObamie (a little political incorrectness can be fun) left live in a world of total political naivete? I’m afraid so. The answer to the first question I’m afraid is, “no.”
Indeed the word of the month is “vitriol”. And I wonder how many people who are slinging it around have any idea what it means.
Listening to a law officer lecture us on how society and laws should be structured is like listening to a farmer tell us what we should eat. I respect police knowledge and expertise, but not outside of their realm. The man overreaches and shows his lack of professionalism.
I just wish that sheriff Dupnik would do his job and enforce the laws we have on the books now! No he wants to be a TV star. You do not hear about the young man that just came out of the drug store when the shooting started. No the media will not talk about this young man because he was carrying a loaded hand gun at the time and never used it. He said by the time he got to the area of the shooting they had the shooter on the ground so he helped hold down the shooter till the cops arrived. The media do not tell his story because to the media he is just another crazy carrying a gun!
“As a sheriff, is it part of your job and part of your responsibility to assess a cultural environment that might increase the chances of injury and danger to your citizens?”
“I think that I have a legal responsibility to do that,” said Dupnik.
And, of course, his comments didn’t do anything to heighten the intensity of the situation. Oh, that’s right. All he is asked to do by Olberman is to assess it; correct or not doesn’t matter.
How is it possible that dupnik-dufus doesn’t recognize that his statements do more to rile people up than anything a radio host can say? (Other than Olberman or Krugman, of course).