Sharia in Toronto: the Muslim Girls on Their Period Have to Sit in the Back
It never ceases to amaze. Sharia is putting down roots all over the West, in ever more explicit and obvious ways. And bien pensant folks on the Left continue to insist, fiercely and self-righteously, that nothing of the kind is going on — even though it’s happening right under their noses.
One of the lastest breathtaking examples: a public middle school in Toronto where Friday prayers are part of the curriculum.
The other day the Toronto Star ran a picture showing a group of students at prayer. There were three groups, ranged according to status. In the front were the praying boys. Behind them were the praying girls. Way in the back were the girls who were menstruating, and thus forbidden from participating in prayer.
Now, this sort of thing should send a chill down the spine of anyone who understands what it means for a country to be free or for a school to be public. But nowadays all too many people — especially, it seems, people in positions of public authority — are quick to justify such outrages, as long as Islam is in the picture. In the National Post, for example, Tasha Kheiriddin quoted one Chris Spence, education director of the Toronto District School Board, as saying this:
As a public school board, we have a responsibility and an obligation to accommodate faith needs.
“Faith needs.” There’s a chilling disconnect here. People whose job is to take care of young people, and to help them grow into responsible adult citizens of a free country, are now capable of looking at something barbaric, ugly, and inequitable, and rushing in to justify it with terms like “faith needs” –simply because it has to do with Islam. This is, of course, the very definition of dhimmitude.
Full credit to Heather Mallick, the journalist who wrote in the Star about the segregated praying at that Toronto school. But even Mallick, who is obviously deeply disturbed by the spectacle of those girls being prohibited from praying, didn’t get the angle right. She began her article as follows:
Isn’t it odd how stories about Muslim school prayers now being conducted at Valley Park Middle School in Don Mills are all about religion making its way into public schools? I don’t discuss religion, ever. Feminism is my credo….
Another fine piece, Bruce. Keep ‘em coming.
BTW, the movie _Sabah_, about a Muslim woman in Toronto being romanced by a secular Canadian man, is a decent movie worth watching, in part because it is subversive of Islam in the best sense of the word.
The Ottawa Sun carried a story on Saturday by Anthoney Furey describing similar practices in Ottawa schools. Furey reports, “Since the 1990s around a dozen Ottawa schools have given Muslims time and space for prayers.”
Here’s the link:
http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/07/16/prayers-at-public-schools-must-stop
“Then wake up and realize that Islam is the enemy of __________.”
How many times does this need to be shouted in the West? How can so many civilizations be living in the same denial mode?
I once joked that HAARP is indeed a mind-control device, and that Muslims are now sitting at the switch. Now I’m re-evaluating the humor of that remark and considering it as a workable theory. How else can we explain the self-destructive apathy of the West?
Actually, this story was broken by my blogger husband, Blazing Cat Fur, as chronicled by Mark Steyn here:
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/4259/28/
Naturally after deliberately ignoring the story for years (and refusing to print the letter about it that finally ended up in my husband’s email, then on his blog) the msm are now taking credit for it.
Kathy Shaidle carrying the torch for common sense in Canada. Now SHE is a hero.
If Heather Mallick wants to know what a real feminist looks and sounds like I suggest Heather you sit down with a real news breaking journalist like Kathy. Take a look at the soles of her shoes notice they are pretty worn, next to your pretty Jimmy Choo’s and the faint bruises are badges Kathy wears with pride . They say: Go ahead you Trudeau marinated leftist pc loving , post modern, moral relativists, go ahead take another swing!
But luckily, the bruises don’t have any effect on her amazing efforts to tell Canadians what is really going on in their country. She suffers the same fate as Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn. The Trudeau marinated hoi polloi types like Mallick have thrown every label imaginable at these warriors for freedom, you know “right wing extremists narrow minded, neo conservative zionist’s in bed with big oil.
Canada now has Sun TV and it’s given Kathy some air time, so that Canadian’s who have been in the swamps of the government funded CBC can finally hear stories like this one.
Kathy Shaidle’s known in these here parts as Five Feet of Fury. Between her and her husband, Blazing Cat Fur, and a few other courageous, take-no-prisoners, bloggers, Canadians are being informed about what’s really going on in the world.
As the saying goes, “no good deed goes unpunished,” so FFoF and BCF are largely unsung heroes up here in Trudeaupia, aka the Deranged Dominion (h/t Mark Steyn), aka Canada.
Part of the problem is that the Muslims in Toronto are the TDSB’s cash cow. Very few non-Muslim Canadians are having large families, whereas Muslim households are overflowing with kids. Seeing as each student comes with about $7000 of provincial and municipal smackeroos, the parasites at the TDSB, wanting to maintain the lifestyles to which they’ve grown accustomed, feel the need to “accommodate the faith needs” of their Muslim students so they won’t leave to go to an all-Muslim school.
The TDSB feels no compunction to meet the “faith needs” of any other group — nor do they care about the “rights” of Muslim girls: Visible minority (with lots of money) trumps gender freedoms. And, seeing as the TDSB truly believes the lie that all cultures are equal, they would feel it less than open, tolerant, or diverse to question how Muslims treat females.
As long as they keep their Muslim constituency and the money that comes with it, that’s all they care about.
How refreshing to hear the truth from sombody who isn’t a brainwashed, apathetic, Trudeau template. It took FOX NEWS and the American Conservative movement to get the truth this far.
Dave The Canadian Capitalist.
Blazing Cat Fur does indeed get the credit for shedding the light of day on this atrocity.
Ah yes, and behind every great man is a great woman. Give the man a big fat kiss for all of us Kathy!
Live in or near Toronto? Want to do something about this? BCF and others are organizing a protest.
Prayer in school is now acceptable as long as its Muslim prayer? Have we lost our senses?
This story is about events in Canada. The laws about what can take place in schools here in Canada are different than in America.
Education is a provincial matter here and every province has its own system. In Ontario, the province containing Toronto and Ottawa, there are two tax-funded systems. They were originally a Protestant system and a Catholic system and taxpayers could opt to send their kids to either system and divert their school taxes to either system. (Basically, Catholics sent their kids and tax dollars to the Catholic schools and everyone else sent their kids and taxes to the Protestant system.) This system was set up when Ontario joined Confederation, i.e. when Canada was formed in 1867.
A lot has changed over the years but the two different systems still exist. The Protestant system still exists but is just called the public system now. The Catholic system is still going strong too. We have many many different ethnic groups and “faith groups” and they can and often do send their kids to their own school systems. However, the other school systems are not taxpayer funded. Therefore, a Jew or Muslim wanting to send children to a Jewish or Muslim school system must pay their taxes to either the public or Catholic system and pay the school fees for the Jewish or Muslim system as well.
In daily practice, all of the school systems allow religion in their schools, except the public system which is so politically correct that all religion was stamped out decades ago while I was still in school. Or at least, that’s what I thought. I was very surprised to hear that Muslims are being accomodated in the public system. I’d be very curious to know if any other religions are being accomodated in the public system. I’m personally against religion being taught in schools; I think parents should teach their kids whatever religion they want outside of school and that this should not be paid for with tax money.
It’s becoming increasingly clear that Muslims and Progressives are joined at the hip.
Which is odd since Progressives would be the first ones beheaded if the muslims ever take control of Canadian (or American) society.
they don’t know it but they’re beheaded already
Yeah, Wayne, it’s an unholy alliance.
I understand it’s about Canada – but Canada has cut out all references to Christmas trees/Santa and Easter bunnies – two very secular holidays that take the place of the religious ones, yet they bow down to islam? Islamist have been in western countries for decades and never demanded accomodations yet since 911 their demands have increased ten-fold in every western country.
I guess they really did win that day.
What I think, lolly, is that 9/11 was a fleece: The Islamists figured they’d put one out to see what the reaction would be and, if it was favourable, they’d step up their jihad.
When they found out that a whole lot of people in the U.S.A., North America, Europe, and other countries felt that the U.S. had it coming to them and that it might even be possible that the U.S. was behind the destruction, they yelled, “Yipee! Let’s step it up, boys.”
Islamists are pushing the envelope everywhere, and especially in the West, and we “open,” “tolerant,” “diverse” Western Dhimmies, who have lost the faith and conviction of our forefathers and mothers, have simply laid down and said, “Walk all over me. Hey, take off my head. Trash my culture, which has offered you hospitality and freedoms beyond your wildest dreams, and usurp my children’s and grandchildren’s future. I won’t do anything because, hey, all cultures are equal, mine’s no better than yours. Yeah, so go ahead, ‘carte blanche, use the laws of your adopted country to smash your host.”
Eventually, however, the parasites that require a host will find that they’re left with nothing more to feed off; they’ll have devoured the host from within, leaving them with same hell holes from which they came. But, hey, all cultures are equal, so I’d better shut up.
Right?
Perhaps you’ve underestimated the will of a free people?
I don’t worry about Islam…but Islam should worry about millions of people like me.
Let them keep pushing buttons and redrawing the line in the sand. It will end…I guarantee it.
Canada has cut out all references to Christmas trees/Santa and Easter bunnies – two very secular holidays that take the place of the religious ones, yet they bow down to islam?
Christmas trees have not been banned in Canada. There was a kerfuffle in Toronto a few years back when city councillors decided to refer to the city’s big Christmas tree as a “Holiday Tree” for fear of offending the non-Christians in the city. (Toronto is apparently more than 50% non-white now since a very large percentage of Canada’s immigrants settle there.) But when this bit of political correctness hit the papers, a lot of people said it was ridiculous to ban the term “Christmas Tree”. Several people from minority groups and religions made a point of saying publicly that they took absolutely no offense whatever at Christmas trees, public or otherwise. So that blew over pretty quickly. I think they went back to calling it a Christmas tree. And as far as I know there was no reaction to any other Christmas tree in either private homes or in public places. Then again, I could easily have missed some complaints.
I have not heard of any issues with Easter bunnies being found objectionable by anyone. Again, there may have been an incident that I didn’t hear about.
However, there is a great deal of concern here about political correctness. Both individuals and businesses get anxious about it sometimes and, as you can imagine, governments try to be pro-active about it. I think people genuinely don’t want to offend other people by calling them an old term only to find that it is now considered racist/ageist/sexist. I’ve known people to say to a group: “Merry Christmas, er, I guess I should say Happy Holidays, since some of you may not be Christians”.
But there are definitely reactions against political correctness too. I vaguely recall a situation where one of the major banks in Toronto was putting stickers saying “Gay-friendly” (or words to that effect) in every cubicle and office to encourage employees to be accepting of gay fellow employees and customers. But some bank employees felt that went way too far and complained bitterly. I believe they felt that if they had that sign in their cubicle, they would basically be unable to refuse an (unwanted) advance from a gay colleague. I think people started quietly removing the stickers. But I’m not sure how that played out ultimately.
Frankly, I was surprised and very concerned to hear about Muslim prayers in public schools. Since Christian prayers have been virtually banned since I was in school several decades ago, I can’t see how they could allow Muslim prayers without indulging in the wildest hypocrisy. Perhaps they allow Christian, Jewish, Buddhist and other prayers now too but it would surprise me.
Henry writes, “The Protestant system still exists but is just called the public system now.” Only sort of! It’s not Protestant, by any stretch of the imagination.
I’m no historian, but, briefly: via the 1867 British North America Act (BNA)—the politicians in 1967, not having a CLUE about massive immigration from non-Christian countries a century later—set up Protestant and Catholic school systems. Ironically, as a courtesy to the French Canadians (who’ve basically thrown out the Church in Quebec), the Catholic system was allowed and instituted by the mainly British hierarchy.
Then, about 100 years later, the secularists and anti-British political elite—Pierre Trudeau (Canada’s Obama) was front and centre—decided to erase both the British influence and religion from the public square. The Catholics were guaranteed (1867 BNA) their own, religious education system and, as it was full of lots of Catholics, and the Catholic bishops were there to contend with, the Catholic school boards were allowed to continue—and do to this day.
So, with the hippes in charge, and as Protestants were all the other Christians left over, without a united voice—or even much zeal to protect their rights—the Protestant system became the “melting pot” for all the non-Christian, immigrant kids who were beginning to fill those schools. By the 1970’s, The Lord’s Prayer and daily scripture readings were banned. So, in the non-Catholic public education systems, bit by bit, just about any tip of the hat to Christianity—the very foundation of Canada’s judicial, political, health, educational, and cultural institutions—was disallowed. (Isn’t that tolerant?)
The secular educational bureaucrats, who basically whitewashed Christianity out of the non-Catholic public schools were “progressive”, anti-Christianity bigots—and still are.
In our non-Catholic public schools: How about Aboriginal creation myths, making dream-catchers, or having whole-school smudge ceremonies for contrition? How about menorahs and dreidels at Hanukkah? How about Green Earth Day, Gaia worship ceremonies? How about Muslim prayers on school property during instructional time—by far, the most egregious contravention of the Education Act? Hey, NONE OF THESE IS CHRISTIANITY, so it’s OK.
That’s, in some ways, a back handed compliment to Christianity: the secularists do seem to understand that Christianity is a serious threat to their secularism. That they don’t get that Islam is a far greater threat is rather astonishing—but these folks aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer. They think that because Islam is a threat to Christianity, that Muslims are OK: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”: what deluded idiots these dangerous “public servants”—make that “parasites”—are.
Let’s see what happens about the TDSB fiasco. Government types, whose jobs are guaranteed, are rarely held accountable to their own rules and regulations. I hope someone MAKES them pay attention by taking the perpetrators of this abomination to court. I’ll donate!
Good summary, lookout.
Most Canadians don’t understand why we have a Catholic system; it’s written right into the BNA Act.
You really think the left does not know what is going on simply because they say it isn’t happening? That is a tactic of the left, to deny the obvious so as to confuse those who know the opposite to be true. They are quite simply…lying.
True of the majority of the leadership.
The rank and file is, for the most part, made up of well-intentioned people who are congenitally clueless, deliberately mis-educated, intentionally and thoroughly uninformed, and live by emotion rather than reason.
Just the way the leadership wants them….
Well…it is Canada. They do not have the same values and ideas we do here in the U.S.. For example, freedom of speech is not tolerated there. I have to ask, because I do not know, how is Christian prayer treated in Canadian schools? Buddhism? etc.
Regardless of the answer to that question it is intolerable that blatant cultural misogyny has been institutionalized.
Well…it is Canada. They do not have the same values and ideas we do here in the U.S.. For example, freedom of speech is not tolerated there.
The idea that freedom of speech is not tolerated here in Canada is complete nonsense and offensive to boot. Yes, an American will find that our values are slightly different to what he is used to in America but not that different. The leftists have succeeded in indoctrinating the last few generations of Canadians with their values – much the way they have in America but perhaps even more successfully – so things like gun ownership are much less common here than in the US. However, we still feel strongly about freedom of speech, I assure you.
I have to ask, because I do not know, how is Christian prayer treated in Canadian schools? Buddhism? etc.
When I was going through the public school system, we started each day with “Morning Exercises” which was essentially the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer and the singing of God Save The Queen. But somewhere around middle school, we stopped reciting the Lord’s Prayer and started singing O Canada instead of God Save the Queen. Pretty much any discussion of religion stopped about the same time. That was the late 60s.
I don’t know what’s happening in the public schools today. I had thought that their thoroughly secular approach was still going strong so I was quite astonished to hear of Muslim prayers going on in public schools. It’s possible that all religions are permitted some public time during the public school day now. I’d almost prefer that to the thought that only Muslims were being allowed school time to practice their religion while all others were forbidden to do so!
I should point out that there are many schools that don’t belong to the public system. There is also a taxpayer-funded Catholic system and I understand that they are allowed to have Catholic content in their schools. There are also a variety of other schools, such as Jewish schools and various others, for minority groups but those are not tax-supported. Parents of those children pay their taxes to either the public system or the Catholic system (their choice) but then pay the full school fees to send their kids to the non-public, non-Catholic school of their choice. I feel sure that those schools also freely indoctrinate their students in their particular religious faith.
It’s also important to mention that I am talking about Ontario, where I live and where this story takes place. I don’t know the rules for the other provinces. Each province has its own school system(s) just like each American state has its system(s).
Regardless of the answer to that question it is intolerable that blatant cultural misogyny has been institutionalized.
I completely agree.
“The idea that freedom of speech is not tolerated here in Canada is complete nonsense and offensive to boot.”
Really?
“Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value. It’s not my job to give value to an American concept.” –CHRC lead counsel Dean Steacy
And this proves … what – other than the fact that Mr. Stacy is an idiot?
Maybe the reporter took this tack because she was afraid of being prosecuted for a “hate crime” for inferring anything negative about the practice of Islam? I seem to recall a case a couple of years back where a columnist I think for Maclean’s (Canadian national newsmagazine) was prosecuted for daring to point out some obvious facts about Muslim fanatics. I don’t live in Canada but I do have the impression that it could be very risky career-wise for a journalists to tackle these types of topics directly.
In other words, “free speech” is definitely not as broad a concept in Canada as it is in the U.S.A. (or perhaps I should say “used to be in the U.S.A.”).
An idiot with real power. Doesn’t it scare you that there even is a Canadian Human Rights Commission? And that its head doesn’t regard free speech as a human right?
“Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value. It’s not my job to give value to an American concept.” –CHRC lead counsel Dean Steacy
The CHRC referred to is, I believe, the Canadian Human Rights Commission. I have had no contact with those people – very few Canadians have – but Ezra Levant and has had loads of contact with them. In a nutshell, the CHRC has tribunals where people can go to allege racism, sexism, etc. against individuals and possibly institutions. My impression is that they are little better than kangaroo courts that are massively infiltrated by the politically-correct far left (but I repeat myself). I believe these tribunals have the power to levy fines against “offenders”. Google on “Ezra Levant CHRC” and you’ll find plenty of articles detailing Levant’s encounters with the CHRC goons.
I am not inclined to take any remarks by a CHRC employee as indicative of general public sentiments in Canada. That is not to say that they should be ignored since they may influence public policy and may represent an obstacle to free expression of sensible views: I’d simply tread warily because the CHRC does have some power. But they don’t represent the views of anyone with any sense.
I respectfully disagree. Free speech really does not exist anywhere in the West, at least not how it used to. Canada is just too PC now. The company that I work for has a branch in Montreal and when I was told during training session that they have ‘prayer’ rooms set up there for Moslems, I asked what about Jews/Christians. Everyone in the room looked at me with daggers in their eyes and my question was fluffed off very quickly. You call that free speech? I was fired for making comments about Moslem terrorists to a colleague while in the ladies room. Someone reported me (I guess she was hiding in the stall) and my boss let me go. You call that free speech? I could have sued, but did not have the funds to do so. Canadian Whites lost the right to free speech when open immigration took over our country.
What’s even more offensive is that you have the gall to deny it.
We have radio programs here in the U.S. which also broadcast on stations in Canada that have to schedule separate, and very different, broadcasts when they are going to cover certain topics.
Why? Because certain opinions and values are simply illegal in Canada. Not merely ‘not accepted as a matter of culture’.
ILLEGAL.
After 10 mins of looking into it here is what I get. Canadian schools will accommodate any prayer as long as it is not compulsory. Special arrangements have been made for the muslim students because there are so many of them at those particular schools. It will not be workable because the school simply cannot accommodate every religious minority.
It is very difficult for me to believe that the students, though not compelled by the school, arent being compelled by their peers and parents and imams. In other words, this sanctions the very same kind of coercion that caused prayer to be taken out of school in the first place. Doubly bad is the tacit sanctioning of misogyny.
I suggest a trip to the woodshed for some select school officials.
“Well, Ms. Mallick, perhaps it’s time you do start discussing religion. Because — hello! — this is all about religion, and nothing else. It’s understandable why you shrink from acknowledging this fact: Criticizing Islam is a dangerous business. But unless you start addressing it things will just get worse and worse. You’re a feminist? Great. Then wake up and realize that Islam is the enemy of feminism. And if you want to defeat your enemy first you have to acknowledge him.”
Could you just imagine this happening in the public schools here in the United States? American parents seem to be very, very, different than Canadian parents. If that happened in my public school district, I think there would be a riot at the school board meeting. Not to mention the fact that it would be ILLEGAL to have prayers, any prayers, on school property at all, let alone having part of the school be used as a mosque! But this is how the far-left encourages the clash of civilizations. By banning Christian activities and encouraging other religious activities, these schools are actually increasing hatred, suspicion, and ill-will between various religious groups, since the Muslims are obviously given special treatment over other religions.
And why are they doing this? Maybe it’s because some Muslims flew some planes into buildings almost 10 years ago? I guess to far-left liberals, it’s better to appease and humor the Muslims rather than get them angry, right? Disgusting.
Libertyship46
I would not be so sure about differences. if you go to Dearborn, Mi., and investigate over there you might find that it is not so different.
I bet it’s happening in Dearborn right now…. but don’t wait for our mainstream media to report on it. They’re Muslim friends are not ready to allow that kind of info out yet.
Or Minneapolis, Minnesota, where there is a burgeoning Somali enclave.
“…Islam is the enemy of feminism.” – Libertyship46
You hit the head of the nail squarely there. It should concern us all because feminism is about liberty. Liberty in all its forms is repugnant to the Muslims.
Liberty? Feminism is about no such thing.
Heather Mallick is altogether the worst kind of feminist: small-minded, stupid, and vicious–ugly too! Who’d be surprised that she misses the major point of this issue?
The feminist movement has never even been about women. From the get-go, the feminist movement was always about socialism. Discrediting, infiltrating, or destroying all other structures of civil society that compete with governmental control is part of the agenda of anybody who wants to establish a socialist system. We see it now with the Obama regime destroying the economy.
Islam is used as a weapon to destroy those other structures of civil society. Once this goal is accomplished, these self-anointed “feminists” and other socialists think that they will be able to tame and control Islam, or discard it once it has served their purposes.
They are wrong.
Is feminism deaf to the women in Islam?
Mr. Bawer’s article provides yet another example that it is.
Notice in the ‘will someone please stand up’ part male was listed first.
“As a public school board, we have a responsibility and an obligation to accommodate faith needs.”
A school that does not teach morality and even religion is amoral and raises beasts. See for example the flash mobs in urban American cities, all coming out of intensely secularized public education systems.
But what we have today in modern public schools in the US and Canada is even worse. Pervasive is the teaching of a very strict religion that is godless, secular, and worse than amoral, many of its moral teachings are immoral, destructive, perverted. No child can avoid it, attendance is either officially compulsory or impossible to resist for overwhelming peer-group pressure and the hectoring of teachers and staff.
The perversions of the modern public school’s semi-official strict religion include promoting homosexuality, destroying marriage, inculcating dependence upon the state, destroying individual initiative, obliterating respect for older generations and old traditional establishments, fostering class divisions and jealousies, and crushing the spirit of most students who would dare hold to traditional values.
Yet what the heck is this article complaining about? None of that. Is the essayist/reporter HAPPY with all the intense teaching of a amoral and immoral secular and god-phobic religion?
These are private citizens using a public facility (where attendance is somewhat compulsory) to perform traditional forms of religious worship. Yes they do separate girls and boys. So did my old American grade school for carved into the granite lintels above the two main separate entrances “BOYS” on one, and “GIRLS” on the other. So too do many traditional Jews separate men and women in prayer and worship assemblies.
Separation of menstruating women from others is not just a Muslim thing, it is found in other cultures as well, it is, well, TRADITIONAL.
While we do have serious problems with Muslims and their fondness for terror and hatred of others, and Muslims themselves have REAL problems with how strict they are becoming, in some part that is reactionary of them. They are reacting to the immoral dissolute modern elite Western culture which is absolutely fiendish both in dismissing and mocking established tradition, and in adopting atrocious and destructive codes of moral conduct.
A school board that says “”As a public school board, we have a responsibility and an obligation to accommodate faith needs.” is just by that making a change for the restoration of sanity in education.
Pervasive is the teaching of a very strict religion that is godless, secular, and worse than amoral, many of its moral teachings are immoral, destructive, perverted. (BVW post 12 above)
Its name is HUMANISM. Please find a copy of Humanist Manifesto 2 and read it. This satanic teaching is the root of all that we see against God (the TRUE God, not ‘Allah’)in our world today coming from governments and movements. It has as I recall, 16 tenets, and every one of them is anathema to the teachings of Christ which have influenced our world for 2000+ years. God calls it Gog and Magog and you can read about it in Revelation 20. Satan is its unseen leader and unregenerate man is its dupe.
Wayne…good one man.
I represent a group of religious based cannibals. It’s nice to know there’s a school district on this continent that would be willing to accommodate their needs. We’d like very much to become part of this Progressive district.
wayne, you wouldn’t be a devotee of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, would you? Anyway here’s a religious story of one of your saints: http://meta-religion.com/Psychiatry/Extreme_crime/german_cannibal.htm
bvv,
No. I’m half Italian, but that’s not me. I’m just a guy who thinks the fantasies and desires of Cannibals are every bit as valid as those of Muslims.
It’s not a happy thing that Muslims rarely address their own problems well.
They do have some really great people, but the religion, in the zealot form is like some hobbling disease. And the zealot form is so potent, and so pervasive today.
Still, the greater existential threat to the US, Australia, and Europe is not Muslim-mania, it is the lack of fear of G-d, the lack of regard for marriage and fatherhood, and tolerance of sexual and moral perversions that are at the core of secularism.
That sickness is growing because the schools inculcate it. Even a Muslim prayer service is better than the immoral indoctrinations that take place in classrooms everyday.
bvw,
With the exception of “lack of regard for Marriage and Fatherhood”, I would have to disagree. It is not part of my belief to fear God, while it certainly is part of a Muslim view. And while I don’t approve of sexual or moral perversions, I think there are better way to oppose them than Stonings, Polygamy, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Female Sexual Mutilation, Arranged Marriages etc. In fact, it’s fairly well documented these repressive ideological perversions promulgate sexual deviancy. I do appreciate your willingness to discuss this with me.
It may surprise some that I see no problem here as long as other faiths are similarly accommodated. In my own faith men and women pray separately and there are specific laws regulating contact between men and women during a womans menstrual cycle. I am under no obligation to convince another person or try to justify my position. It is not for another to impose ones religious beliefs on someone else. As long as others are not harmed people should be able to pray in peace.
You’re the guy who thinks God punished the Japanese with a tsunami because they don’t support Israel. Of course you support insanity – you’re insane. You’d probably support burning people at the stake if you had enough compadres.
I do not wish ill on anyone. I merely accept that The Almighty has power over all things at that behavior has consequences
on both a personal and national level.
That remark of yours right there is adolescent.
…..I was of course referring to the one by le Skunk.
Read his smug and gloating comments over the mass deaths of Japanese and also tornado victims in the U.S. for yourself:
http://pajamasmedia.com/barryrubin/2011/05/23/obama-at-aipac/
If objecting to that makes me a teenager then pass me the pimple cream.
You doubt he’d burn people at the stake? NO, he’d do it and say it’s divine judgment.
You are missing the point that it is taking place in the taxpayer-funded public school system of a free nation. And whether your religion recognizes it or not, the public segregation of females is sickening to the extreme. What a person does in his or her own home or house of worship is their own business (though, as a female, I wouldn’t put up with such crap), but our extorted public tax dollars should not be funding misogyny.
What you refer to as ” public segregation of females ” is nonsense. Are all restrooms to become multi-gender? Are ones teenage daughters to be forced to use the male toilet? In any case it is not for you to dictate the form of worship for another. That is a decision you have the right to make only for yourself.
No, Natasha. YOU are missing the point.
It’s not that women/girls are segregated, it’s that someone is getting a free ride (muslim prayer in taxpayer supported schools) at the expense of others (those who do not pray to allah), in defiance of civil law.
Shariah law.
It’s not just a religion. It’s a worldview. A worldview that gives you three simple choices: (1) submit to Islam and Shariah law – and pay the dhimi tax, etc, (2) Convert to islam, (3) be killed. Real simple. For all you libs who believe in the “god” of choice, here is you chance to make a “choice”
Be afraid, be very afraid.
The problem in the TDSB, Menachem Ben Yakov, is that there are no accommodations for the “faith needs” of other groups. None. ‘Only for Muslims.
In fact, since 1988 it has been against Canadian law to insert religion into public schools. I believe that comparative religion can be taught, but there are to be no prayers or religious accommodations made in class time.
There are clearly accommodations being made for the faith needs of just this one group. I maintain that’s because the Muslims, with all of the children they’re having, are a cash cow for the TDSB.
If you are correct that only muslims are allowed space and time to pray then the practice should either be allowed fo all other faiths or none at all.
MBY, I am correct.
I’ve been following this story for a very long time — and once had children in the public school system here in Ontario.
Go to Blazing Cat Fur and follow the discussion there. See for yourself what the reality is about this public school, and others, which allow only Muslims and their clerics to use the public schools during class time for religious services.
This is against the law in Canada, and has been since 1988. The law actually came in under the Liberals (one of the Canadian parties of the Left), to deprive Judeo-Christians, the founders of our public educational system in Canada, from having any influence — and they used “multiculturalism” as a beard in order to rid Canada of its British/Judeo-Christian heritage, in favour of Quebec and every other visible-minority culture.
Astonishingly, the lay-down surrender monkeys up here bought the “multicultural” myth hook, line, and sinker — the myth that all cultures are equal. If that is so, why is the flow of immigration only one way, always to Western countries whose foundational values and democratic freedoms are based on the Judeo-Christian Scriptures?
We’ve been duped. We’ve been dhimmied, and we’d better wake up fast, or we’ll have sold the democratic freedoms of our children and grandchildren down the river.
Kyrie Eleison. (Lord, have mercy. You’re not allowed to say this in the public system.)
Indeed I have found you are correct. Thank you.
Hear, hear, kjh! I’ve said much the same—at #5. (My comments are waiting to be moderated.)
M Ben Y: I understand that observant Jews have rules about the separation of men and women: I can live with that, easily. (Think of radical feminists: they HATE men and find ways not only to punish them, but to nefariously separate them from women AND from their own rights at every turn.) Jews have contributed MIGHTLIY to the good of the world; observant Jews, who have certain rules that bother secularists, treat their females well; AND Jews do NOT try to make the rest of society—the world!—follow their rules. (Not at all and certainly not on pain of death!)
Shalom, M Ben Y!
Re prayers, I don’t agree with your idea that a public educational system might accommodate all religions by providing time/space in school hours. The kids already can’t read, write, or think. So, no prayers—not to the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus, not to Gaia, not to Gitchi Manitou . . . If prayers of any kind are allowed, the snakes in charge will bend the rules to suit only their favourites (see my post at #5)—as they always do.
I understand your concerns regarding abuse. it is very possible. On the other hand anything can be abused. Some religions have specific times for prayer. I see no harm in making that possible.
The Pledge of Allegiance (one Nation under G-d) is itself a prayer as uplifting as any I’ve heard. Liberty and Justice for all are worthy ideals and asking for them in the name of The Almighty adds nobility and honor to the lives of students. America can be great again. We just have to elect people who take The Pledge seriously.
It is absolutely nobody’s business when a woman is menstruating. It is a private matter. I don’t care what religion a person is.
Why are women humiliated and chastised for a normal bodily function? If not for mentstration, there would be no human race. Does not that elevate women to a higher level? Instead of making women ‘sit in the back’ during their periods, they shoud be honoured with hightest praise and be made to feel special. If men had their periods, they would be feted with a national holiday and a parade.
In Judaism women are not ” humiliated or chastised ” for menstruating. The fact is that the proscriptions regarding a menstruation offer a degree of protection not found elsewhere. In fact women in Judaism There are reasons that a Jewish husband was seen as the ideal husband. If not one wonders why so many Christian women seek to marry Jews.
Every FRiday the following is recited to ones wife-
” A woman of valor, who can find? Far beyond pearls is her value. Her husband’s heart trusts in her and he shall lack no fortune
She repays his good, but never his harm, all the days of her life. She seeks out wool and linen, and her hands work willingly
She is like a merchant’s ships; from afar she brings her sustenance She rises while it is still nighttime, and gives food to her household and a ration to her maids
She considers a field and buys it; from the fruit of her handiwork she plants a vineyard. She girds her loins with might and strengthens her arms
She senses that her enterprise is good, so her lamp is not extinguished at night. She puts her hand to the distaff, and her palms support the spindle
She spreads out her palm to the poor and extends her hands to the destitute. She fears not snow for her household, for her entire household is clothed with scarlet wool
Bedspreads she makes herself; linen and purple wool are her clothing. Well-known at the gates is her husband as he sits with the elders of the land
Garments she makes and sells, and she delivers a belt to the peddler. Strength and splendor are her clothing, and smilingly she awaits her last day
She opens her mouth with Wisdom, and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue. She anticipates the needs of her household, and the bread of idleness, she does not eat
Her children rise and celebrate her; and her husband, he praises her: “Many daughters have attained valor, but you have surpassed them all.”
False is grace, and vain is beauty; a G-d-fearing woman, she should be praised.
Give her the fruit of her hands, and she will be praised at the gates by her very own deeds.”
A far cry from ” humiliation” wouldn’t you say?
I was referring to Moslems. I am a proud Jew and I know very well that women are not treated in the same way. However, menstration is still looked upon as unclean among the Orthodox Jews.
There are two different issues here. One is the concept of being spiritually unclean , the other of being physically unclean. Being ” spiritually unclean ” can apply to both men and women under specific circumstances. These are accorded validity because they are defined so by The Almighty. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. The idea that menstruation makes a woman physically unclean I would liken to my neighbor who has a ” lawn treated with pesticide pet owners beware ” sign planted perpetually on her lawn. When asked why she says, ” It works “. Perhaps men need to be beaten over the head to dissuade from intercourse. The idea may simply be that a woman who says to her husband, ” The Almighty says no! ” cannot be cajoled or sweet talked. In any case there is a great book, ” The Thirteen Petaled Rose ” that explains better than I.
If you are looking for someone to blame for this, the place to start is with marble-mouthed Prime Minister Mike Pearson, Nobel Prize winner, back in the sixties. Follow along to the contemptible Trudeau and every other Liberal stalwart across the frozen north for the next forty-five years until they are finally — thankfully — decimated in Parliament by 2011. You’re also advised to keep in mind that Heather Mallick writes for what’s known locally as the Toronto “Red” Star, house organ of the Liberal Party of Canada. No independents, much less conservatives, abide at the bottom of Yonge Street.
Aping their French and European heroes, Canadian liberals have allowed — even encouraged — the takeover of the country by demographics and indiscriminate immigration combined with multi-culti insanity. Buying votes for a couple of generations in this way, both Europe and Canada are seeing the end results today.
Happy now?
Correction, you mean the Toronto Red Star and Crescent.
Bob, well said!
A fine, just released book that describes the “progressive” take over of Canada, and solutions, is William Gairdner’s “The Trouble with Canada . . . Still!” It’s required reading for any Canadian (and maybe some curious Americans!) serious about understanding what’s gone wrong in this country.
All hail Gairdner, look him up, now there is a true fine gentleman, See him discussing Moral Absolutes on Youtube. Check out his website a feast of essays.
Another good Gairdner book is, “Oh, Oh Canada.”
Forget Canada, this crap is happening right here. I listened to a story on NPR this morning (I usually flip there to hear the lefties spew when my Rush Radio is on a commercial break) about the FBI bending over backwards so as not to offeeeeeend the Miami muslim “Imams” they were arresting for funding terrorism in Pakistan.
The FBI agents – in full dhimmi pose – planned when to arrest to avoid busy prayer times, spoke Pashto while arresting the dude, and TOOK THEIR SHOES OFF BEFORE ENTERING THE MOSQUE. These are f-ing FBI agents taking off their f-ing shoes in some scumbag f-ing mosque where terrorist-funders are spreading their hate…in the USA.
I usually try to keep some semblance of hope for the USA surviving, but after this report I think it’s over folks.
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/19/137767710/imam-arrests-show-shift-in-muslim-outreach-effort
Yeah, just great…
Normally, Law Enforcement goes to great lengths to embarrass and humiliate its “arrestees” whenever possible.
How many stories of Grooms at their own weddings getting handcuffed?
Screw the bride, her family (who’s probably footing the bill?) the parents, guests, children in attendence.
Baptisms, weddings, graduations, aniversary parties…
Police LOVES to grab people there, just for the humiliation/power factor it gives them. Why do it the day before, or the day after, when you can REALLY show everyone who’s got the Power by humilliating a whole room full of people?
But when its Muslim Terrorists…they’re SCARED to offend them.
Regular American Citizens? We get no such accomodation or “respect” for OUR institutions or traditions from an Arresting Authority.
They rather enjoy it.
Cowards!
Do they have yarmulkes in their tool kit for when they arrest a Jew? How about bindis?
Were there an menstruating female FBI agents making that arrest in full burqa?
Pathetic.
A larger society either will (Canada) or will not (USA) accommodate school prayer. That is a decision for each society. However, failure to consider the underlying values and then making a judgment is what is lacking here. We need constant conversation about values so that they can be clarified, not ignored.
Menstruation is tied to sexual availability of the female to the male in both primitive and even in modern cultures. Prayer is between the human and his/her God. It is my view, limited though it is, that menstruation is not a disqualifying condition for prayer by a female. On the other hand, should the girls be inclined NOT to pray at all, their personal sexual availability should not determine their temporary grouping either. Such personal conditions and inclinations should not be a matter for public knowledge or comment, particularly in a public school setting. Privacy should be considered as a countervailing value in considering the permissibility of public school-sanctioned prayer. Perhaps privacy considerations would even be sufficient to some people to disallow organized Muslim prayer in schools because of their tradition of separating menstruating girls. Failure to make such judgments is an abrogation of administrative responsibility.
The law at the time prohibited the group daily prayers (of any kind) and especially dealt with any sort of “opting out” provision. That is, if you don’t want to pray, you don’t have to. The courts said no to this as a cohersive method to make those who didn’t pray feel awkard or different. It seems the Mohammedans are using an “opting in” solution to the “problem” and progressives are at a loss as how to deal with it. Boys up front. Girls to the back, menstruating girls way to the back. What could go wrong?
Catholics in Ontario, due to history and demographics, have their own school system, fully funded, which muddies the waters quite a bit. Nonetheless, we need to condemn this as strongly as possible. If any Canadian hears of this and does not write to the Ontario Premier, Minister of Education and the Toronto District School Board, they’d better. “Official Multicuturalism”, as a policy, has failed miserably, if this what we get.
If any Canadian hears of this and does not write to the Ontario Premier, Minister of Education and the Toronto District School Board, they’d better.
Do you seriously believe that there is any possible benefit to writing to the appalling Dalton McGuinty, current Premier of Ontario? He’s the biggest liar I’ve ever seen in political life in this country in decades. He made only one promise in his first (successful) campaign for the premiership nine years ago: that he would not raise taxes. Once elected, he promptly raised virtually every fee and charge in the province and has gone on raising taxes again and again and again. What makes you think that this unspeakable so-and-so would do the morally decent thing about ANY problem? I’d be astonished if he didn’t either propose or endorse the policy of letting Muslims pray in schools before it started….
There is very little he won’t do to pander to a group that might vote for him. He’s very much like Obama in that way.
Well shucks, I often say things I don’t mean. Liberals are opportunists, if he gets enough letters, he’ll count the votes. John Tory (yeah, I know) lost the last election when he proposed allowing stuff like this. So, yes I think it’s worth firing off an email. Probably do more good than the long reply you sent to … me.
“official multiculturalism” is supported by the mainstream Canadian churches that support peaceful penetration of Islam into society.
So right! Check out Wondercafe site, United Church of Canada. You should hear them going after Americans. Most evil country in the world.
Not the Catholic Church!!
Pregnancy and menstruation render a woman unclean inside the Muslim construct.
Reportedly, in the diary he left behind, Mohammed Atta wrote that no “unclean” pregnant woman was to touch his dead body. Pregnant women everywhere were relieved that he’d blown himself to smithereens and there was no dead body to touch.
It would seem our dear friend the Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Ruhollah Mosavi Khomeini was obsessed with menstrual blood, writing at length on the subject in his Little Green Book, including the admonition that a woman shouldn’t be “sodomized” during her period.
These people are perfectly insane
OMGosh. Talk about sick, evil and perverse.
Two additional points of (disturbing) interest:
An image that wasn’t as widely circulated was of the large SIGN hanging over the PUBLIC SCHOOL cafeteria, declaring it to be a mosque. I can’t remember where I saw this image, maybe on Blazing Cat Fur.
Also from Blazing Cat Fur (though I’m not sure where the story originally broke) the more recent and related scandal is that the Toronto District School Board has issued reading for teachers which defines racism as follows:
“While people in different contexts can experience prejudice or discrimination, racism, in a North American context, is based on an ideology of the superiority of the white race over other racial groups.”
I wonder whether someone with a white child in an Ontario public school could take this to the Human Rights Commission?
..take this to the Human Rights Commission?
From seeing videos of interviews and reading about individuals who sit on Canada’s various HRC’s (there are 10?) you wouldn’t want to voluntarily present anything to those folks because it will become completely screwed up & irrationally convoluted inside their neural circuits.
Canada is going to have to stand up to the morons who want to take over their culture, those working incrementally and daily to replace Canada’s civil law with Shari’a.
I would say that the Human Rights Commissions are a joke, and when you read some of the cases they’ve taken and the decisions they’ve come to, you might think it’s all a joke. However, they have done far too much damage and infringed far too much on individual rights to be considered a joke. They are very dangerous to the liberties of all Canadians and should be abolished.
As far as Canada standing up to the morons who want to take over Canadian culture, this will never happen. Our public officials are in support of Islam and fall all over themselves apologizing for its most egregious tenets and practices. It would take ordinary Canadians rising up to get rid of this, and Canadians are far too passive for this to ever happen. No, folks. Accommodating Muslims and eventually being taken over by them is in our Canadian future.
I will have checked out by then, but my kids and grandkids will see it. And my two daughters who are nearing 40 don’t want to hear a word about this or have it disrupt in any way their nice comfortable lives. The normalcy bias is alive and well and thriving in Canada. They will have a rude awakening some day. God help them.
Ontario Girl, do I identify with you!
The complacency of Canadians—we don’t have either the first amendment (freedom of speech) or the second amendment (the right to keep and bear arms)—is endemic. Canadians were dhimmied long before Muslims were even a gleam in our eyes!
Kyrie eleison.
I do not even recognize my city or my country anymore. I feel like a foreigner with little rights. Every time I try to talk about the increasing Moslem threat to my friends or family, I am called paranoid or racist. At times I feel like I am in a scene from Invastion of the Body Snatchers. Everyone around me LOOKS normal, but they are in fact, pod people.
I sympathize with you Toronto Girl. About six weeks ago, I said to a neighbor couple that Islam is an evil religion and we better start to wake up. They didn’t speak to me for the next six weeks. Finally, last Saturday, I was out in the yard and they spoke.
Burt Prelutsky (check out his website) said, “Islam is a peaceful religion and, if you don’t believe it, we’ll chop off your heads.” This, I believe, is the crux of the problem. Everyone is afraid. Everyone knows that Islam is NOT a peaceful religion, but they all say it to save themselves from the wrath of the Muslims.
God help us.
SInce us Toronto and Ontario gals have ostriches for neighbors is there some way we can get together for coffee in our hometown. One of us can be on the lookout for Donald Sutherland ready to out us with the Body Snatcher Primal Alien Scream. Like I noted to Kathy Shaidle we need a yearly convention of free thinkers Canada.
Where do we find each other??
Kathy will be our poster girl sans Take A Camel tshirt!
Maryann/Toronto: I am all for getting together whenever you want. My e-mail is pussycat0521@yahoo.com. It would be nice to talk to a normal human being for a change!
Ladies, you might want to avoid posting email addresses online. Quite often you’ll find that your entire contact list gets begging letters in your name. These scammers use bots to trawl the internet for email addresses. Rather code the address as e.g. “pussycat -at- yahoo dot com”, or any variant that is human-readable, but not recognisable to a program as an email address.
I completely agree, the Human Rights Commission needs to be destroyed. But I wonder whether this couldn’t (at least partially) be accomplished by overloading them with cases that they don’t really want to hear, hence my original comment. The plaintiff doesn’t have to pay legal fees, after all. I don’t know enough about their workings, though, only enough to be convinced that they are a force of evil tyranny out to destroy democracy.
A variation of the Cloward-Piven strategy. Nice.
The HRC’s pick and choose winners at the application phase.
That’s how they keep their persecution percentages so high…
The process is the punishment for the respondents.. The HRC’s make their rules up as they go along and have near carte blanche to rip accused Canadian’s lives apart to get what ever they think they need to destroy the victim at the Tribunal..
The good news, real courts usually crush these kangaroo court’s decisions on appeal.. The bad news.. the process is the punishment..
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http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2011/02/canada-human-rights-tribunal-orders-womans-house-seized-after-she-said-muslim-employees-lunch-smelled-bad/
Canada: ‘Human Rights’ Tribunal orders woman’s house seized after she said Muslim employee’s lunch smelled bad
by Kathy Shaidle on Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011 | No Comments
Halt Muslim immigration to Canada:
That October 2009 decision ordered Telfer to pay $36,000 to a woman who had been her employee for six weeks. Lawyers wanted the sheriff to seize and sell Telfer’s home to collect the money.
The woman who lodged the complaint, Seema Saadi, told the tribunal she felt pressured to wear skirts and heels instead of her hijab. Saadi also said Telfer complained about the smell of food that she warmed in the microwave. (…)
“I feel vindicated,” said Telfer, who owns Audmax Inc., a company that gets federal government money to provide job training to immigrant women.
So:
Will leftists now reconsider their belief that “blacks can’t be racist”…?
Actually there has been an underappreciated blogger community fighting the HRCs for some years now, including Levant, and there has been a bit of success. As a result of that these bloggers are greeted with malicious lawsuits. So take a moment and head over to FFOF and BCF and lay a wreath on the Paypal button. Standing up to be counted is easier said than done.
What is the matter with us? We are bending over backwards to accommodate people who want to eventually kill us. We are actively and willingly participating in our own suicide!
We in North America better wake up–and soon. Look at Europe. It’s too late for them. They’ll be predominantly Muslim by mid-century. All the European cultures will be erased. All infidels will be in slavery or dead. Is this what we want for ourselves?
If you know that you have an illness, you try to get rid of it. Islam is a cancer that is spreading around the world, and we damn well better start to get rid of it.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What are people willing to die for?
IMO, it has to do with what’s deeply ingrained and valued in one’s spirit. Dhimmis of the West have thrown (Judeo-) Christianity overboard and, as a result, their spirit’s pretty weak—not to mention their flesh!
The societies of the West have sold their birthright for a mess of pottage—that’s biblical: folks might want to look it up.
I don’t know if deluded people are capable of waking up—especially when all the means by which they might be told the truth (via non-PC folks who are in the crosshairs of the powerful minions of the state) and too many of the forces—educational and media—charged to spread the truth, are its enemies.
We’re between a rock and a hard place, that’s for sure.
Lookout wrote, ” Dhimmis of the West have thrown (Judeo-) Christianity overboard and, as a result, their spirit’s pretty weak—not to mention their flesh!”
No, the West simply fools itself. Look, please, at the cataclysm occurring in Britain over the News Corp’s indiscretions. They are tearing themselves to pieces about their corrupt behavior, now made public. Poor taste is now in poor taste – certainly a Judeo-Christian value. Islam laughs at this sensitivity.
911, as well as preceding and successive acts of carnage around the world, was the physical assault of hard or violent jihad.
But the insidious assault of soft jihad, the one outlined in the Muslim Brotherhood’s 1991 document of “sabotaging the miserable house of the Unbeliever from within” (approximate wording) continues every single day in every single non-Islamic country on the planet.
There are a million ways that soft jihad is being, incrementally, pushed and pushed.
I get impatient when any western culture appears to take each of these incremental pushes seriously, maybe in the name of “multiculturalism” and political correctness.
Because getting taken seriously and intimidating those western cultures really is the point of soft jihad.
Leftists are reading the situation correctly, short-term. They understand that Mohammedanism is antithetical to Christianity, and that the conflict for social dominance is a zero-sum game. What they haven’t figured out yet is the reality that Human Nature abhors a religious vacuum just as nature does a gaseous type. You might have noted that the longest-surviving atheistic state in history barely lasted 70 years, and required murdering millions of people and a totalitarian terror-state to manage that. Any human society will be dominated by one religion. The only question left up in the air is which one?
The one that purports to be the natural progression after islam..
progressive revelation is all they have left.. Destroy Jesus by changing his name to isa..
Well ya know if not for the interwebs this would have escaped my knowledge….from the MSM especially electronic…crickets…..
But then much like US MSM it is waste of time….
I don’t claim to speak for Canada….generally I am appalled at the extent AGW is accepted…..
BUT
This makes me mad enough to bite a porcupine….
It’s not about accommadating religions, it’s about accommadating Islam exclusively. Try walking through a public school with a bible and see what happens, try walking through that Mosqueteria with a bible and see what happens, try it pregnant or on your period and see what happens. This is not about accommadating Islam, it’s about complete submission by those who have the power to use the state to enforce Islamic precepts. Those prayer rooms sound so fluffy and nice, but the fact is if you do not submit to the precepts of Sharia law via taking off your shoes and covering your hair you won’t gain access to said room. This issue is about power and the progressive loons have joined forces with the seventh century Political Islamists to turn our secular schools system into a Muslim complaint free system.
“No, all the girls at the school — and all the boys, Muslim and otherwise — are having their view of the world shaped by this sick sensibility that demands the segregation of boys from girls at prayer time, and the segregation of menstruating from non-menstruating girls.”
Well said!
But of course, Muslims have their justifications at the ready. Deep down they know these practices are a big crap sandwich, but they also think that with the right spin they can get anyone to believe, like they do, that its really a yummy ice cream cone.
For instance, I read where one Muslim woman explained that women sit in the back because, sniff, this represents how women are the backbone of the community, sniff! Well the rear end is also in the back of the body. If women and men were really equals and if segregation is really necessary as they say it is to protect the dignity of women, then why not divide the mosque down the middle. Partition it with men on one side and women on the other? And if dignity was such a concern, then why would Allan require that people pray with their rears in the air in the first place? If it walks and talks like a duck…
Muslims will also say that its not so bad that the koran declares that women are “unclean” when they menstruate and that Allan says that he doesn’t want their prayers at this time. Why this is a holiday from the requirements of religion at a sensitive time of the month! How thoughtful of Allan to create woman so that she is unclean each month so that she can enjoy a regular period of exile from God! Its really wonderful that God first created this natural process and then declared it unclean. No contradictions here. Nope.
Finally,
It states somewhere in all the news coverage, that Friday prayers do not have to be held at a certain time. If students want to attend they can attend after school at the mosque nearby. Those same imams who take the trouble to come to the school just for these students could go to the same amount of trouble to lead a student only service after school and off of school property. But this is not about a religious requirement. It is all about forcing Islam into the secular sphere.
Go figure.
A female menstruating is an EXTREMELY private matter. Islam AND the School Board don’t think so! What has happened to our vastly superior Western civilization that we have sunk so low that girls are marked out PUBLICLY as having their period?
There are MANY faiths. Why is the School Board not accommodating ALL other faiths? Why only Islam? It is because the School Board FAVORS Islam above ALL other religions.
Canada is not an Islamic country, but it appears that the School Board would like it to be one.
How much for the one in the burka?
I’m thinking of worshiping the false moon god, and getting my arse in the air while I pray towards the Kaaba. I can have up to four sex slaves according to Muhammad.
Leatherneck, my buddy and I often joke about getting in on the ground floor in this Islam business. I mean if we’re just going to surrender anyway, why fight it at all? It’s not so bad for men, afterall. Especially if you’re already over the 20 something suicide bomber phase of life, like we are. And we can finally put the wife in her place but good. If you can’t beat ‘em and all that. Waddya think?
If you’re past the 20-something suicide bomber age, then I doubt that you are capable of spending your time on nothing but having sex 24×7, even with four sex slaves to choose from. Unless you live in a non-Muslim welfare state like the US or the UK, you’ll have to earn at least some money to support those wives and any resulting children. And when you’re not busy having sex, remember that Islamic societies suppress, censor, or outlaw not only alcohol, but just about every other form of entertainment.
Life under shari’a law is, at best, dreadfully boring – unless, of course, your idea of fun is robbing or killing infidels, or beating on people who violate shari’a law.
No booze? Well, you can forget it!
I am a little disappointed that the writer didn’t delve a little deeper to find that it was a blogger – http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.com – who actually broke the story….not a paid journalist(s) who often prey on bloggers’ output and run off with those stories without even a thanks or hat tip to the blogger.
– my Canada, my poor Canada…
Let’s just keep importing religious Nazis who call everyone else a Nazi using skin minority status as an impervious shield which states they are incapable of racism or bigotry. Keep in mind these are the worst racists and bigots on the planet. They encoded it in a book and teach it to their kids and everything.
Here’s a heartwarming American version of “justice” from the madman’s point of view:
http://sandrarose.com/2011/07/white-university-rejects-13-year-old-racist-poet/
Yakov and this guy should be in a padded cell together with no sharp objects.
Aaarrgghhh! I read it! Eye bleach, please! Warning: black blog.
Do I want to know how Toronto school authorities know which young ladies are menstruating?
The people in the west, better come to understand islam is not a legitimate religion. Islam is a front for sharia law, which is a totalitarian form of government not a religion. Islam was started by a pedophile who married a 6 year old girl and had sex with her at her ripe old age of 8 years old, just one of his many wives!
I taught for four years in Turkey. I was at three different Turkish schools in Ankara, Izmir, and Istanbul. It was the policy of all three schools that classes would NOT be interrupted to observe the three calls to prayer during the school day. Also, classes went on as usual every Friday afternoon. We were told that younger Muslims were not required to participate in these observances. Also, young Muslims are not required to fast during Ramadan.
This tells me that the insistence by the Muslims to hold Friday prayer at the school in Toronto is not driven by religious motives, but by political and publicity motives. It is another way for them to impose their way of life on us.
How embarrassing for a young girl to be made to reveal that she has her period. And then to be segregated because of it. Where is the outrage of all the feminists?
Think of the striking fact:Euro-communist leader and creator R.Garodi that fighted with the Soviet Stalinists,today is the Muslim,Holocaust denier,Jew-hater!
The western liberal leftists pulls us under the Muslim bus.
I recall this back when I was a kid, Blacks were given the balconey of the movie theaters and had a special night for the Fair and any other assembly.
Called jim crow laws, I would gather these are Aisha Crow laws.
To throw a spanner into the works, I’ll mention a theme I introduced last week: besides “Mosqueterias”, the TDSB also has a rather militant, pro-gay policy. Apparently, under the guise of anti-bullying (what else is new?), the board plans to indoctrinate the kids about the joys of the homosexual lifestyle—an alternative, apparently, which is just as normal and healthy as any other. Parents will not be advised of this teaching and, if they catch on, will not be allowed to opt their kids out. Hmmm . . . I’ll bet the homosexual curriculum will be hard to find in schools filled with Muslim students.
I’d imagine that the “progressive” TDSB educrats are as stupid and politically correct as any others: they can hold two, mutually exclusive ideas at the same time—and promote both agendas simultaneously in, more or less, the same space: in real—not utopia—time.
Something’s got to give here. My take: the Muslims will not be subject to the gay propaganda. They’d get mad. And they’re used to being up-front and aggressive when they are. On the other hand, ordinary, secular, “tolerant” folks, who are used to being dhimmied—and shutting up—will go along. They might not like it, but they’ll go along. Wimpy societies like this—all of the West—are canon fodder for radical Islam. E.g., If 9/11 wasn’t enough to wake people up, I’m not sure what would. We’ll see . . .
Re my post at #39: here’s a really interesting link that I found at Blazing Cat Fur’s blog. (He’s the guy who broke this story.)
http://www.blogwrath.com/canada-islam/barbara-hall-islamizator-general-of-ontario/1555/
This blog post tells a very interesting story about the Muslim/gay dichotomy in Toronto, and a booster of both, the duplicitous Barbara Hall, head of the Ontario Human Rights (sic) Commission, whom the blogger describes as the “Islamizator General of Ontario”. (From her behaviour, Hall sounds very much like Kurt Vonnegut’s Handicapper General, Diana Moon Glampers, in his hilarious, prescient tale, “Harrison Bergeron”.)
Kyrie eleison.
In my opinion there has been a great manipulation of the free nations by those within the what I’ll call “radicalised islamic world” into making us believe that Islam is a religion. I believe Islam is an institution and should be recognised and treated as such. Islam has its own governing body, law, judicial system, penal system etc.. There is no separation of church and state within Islam so it is all one entity. They have recognised a weakness in our thought processes and also recognised that playing the “in the name of religion” card is accomplishing their agenda. We need to wake up and stop this advancement.
On a second thought, I do not think all people who practice Islam are the problem. However, to not condemm those actions that we have seen even what may be today in Oslo is creating a real perception problem for Islam. Until the leaders within the islamic world are will to step forward and condemn the actions of those who conduct mass murder I believe the entire Islam organisation should be held accountable for the actions of the few.
Heather Mallick is a typical self-absorbed contemporary “feminist” writer. I would never have counted on her to provide any intelligent insight into the outrage at Toronto public schools, as she is incapable of it. She can’t talk about anything without immediately making it All About Heather, hence her rapid digression into how so, like, EMBARRASSING it was when she got her period when she was a girl. Her column is a joke.
You know why girls do that , because they don’t want to sleep with guys other than their husbands .
And about mens you should hear this at youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fezb8qD_7f8
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