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		<title>By: BRUCE</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/serve-dont-dictate-long-time-conservative-d-c-insiders-need-to-go/#comment-647707</link>
		<dc:creator>BRUCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>veto Power!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZ-4NKOZl8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OYn2Bq4OJY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>veto Power!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZ-4NKOZl8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZ-4NKOZl8</a><br />
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		<title>By: Rich Vail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Vail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the excellent arguments against term limits.  I agree with some and disagree with others...there is one further section I would add:

5.  That President shall have veto power over single line budgetary items in any budget bill presented by Congress for signature.

that would allow the President to veto individual line items...

But I&#039;m genuinely intrigued by #32 Seanmahair&#039;s idea of a 3 day national spending &quot;strike&quot;.  Now I think that&#039;s one hell of an idea!  But it would certainly grab SOMEONE&#039;s attention...if we can get 1 million + people to DC on 9/12...how many do you think we could get to...just not spend a dime for 3 days...it&#039;s intriguing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the excellent arguments against term limits.  I agree with some and disagree with others&#8230;there is one further section I would add:</p>
<p>5.  That President shall have veto power over single line budgetary items in any budget bill presented by Congress for signature.</p>
<p>that would allow the President to veto individual line items&#8230;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m genuinely intrigued by #32 Seanmahair&#8217;s idea of a 3 day national spending &#8220;strike&#8221;.  Now I think that&#8217;s one hell of an idea!  But it would certainly grab SOMEONE&#8217;s attention&#8230;if we can get 1 million + people to DC on 9/12&#8230;how many do you think we could get to&#8230;just not spend a dime for 3 days&#8230;it&#8217;s intriguing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: seanmahair</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/serve-dont-dictate-long-time-conservative-d-c-insiders-need-to-go/#comment-449505</link>
		<dc:creator>seanmahair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last couple of month the &quot;grassroots&quot; have shown that they don&#039;t need either DC insiders or political elites to &quot;show them the way&quot;.  We know what conservative values are, we know what the constitution says and we know it is in our power to &quot;change the world&quot;.  

I&#039;ve always said, heaven help Washington if the electorate ever figures out they have the power.  One 3 day nationwide strike and this country would be on it&#039;s knees.  Just imagine if those &quot;rich&quot; lower middle, upper lower wage workers stop spending money at Wal-Mart, the grocery store and gas stations.  Image if they started to put their money in savings instead of buying a new car or stereo or TV.  What if they ate at home instead of going out, watched the movies they own instead of going to the theater?  Stopped driving their gas guzzling cars and spent even more time with a good book, their family or their church.

Business would be on it&#039;s knees but the government would be right behind them.  I&#039;d hate to see it come to that but I have a feeling, especially with the socialists in charge now, that things are libel to go there.   I hope minorities and liberals  can prop up the government, because those of us on the &quot;grassroots&quot; right are getting really tired of footing the bill.  Maybe it&#039;s time for us to become disenfranchised, and disengaged.  Time for us to play the victim card, &#039;cause we are tired being silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last couple of month the &#8220;grassroots&#8221; have shown that they don&#8217;t need either DC insiders or political elites to &#8220;show them the way&#8221;.  We know what conservative values are, we know what the constitution says and we know it is in our power to &#8220;change the world&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always said, heaven help Washington if the electorate ever figures out they have the power.  One 3 day nationwide strike and this country would be on it&#8217;s knees.  Just imagine if those &#8220;rich&#8221; lower middle, upper lower wage workers stop spending money at Wal-Mart, the grocery store and gas stations.  Image if they started to put their money in savings instead of buying a new car or stereo or TV.  What if they ate at home instead of going out, watched the movies they own instead of going to the theater?  Stopped driving their gas guzzling cars and spent even more time with a good book, their family or their church.</p>
<p>Business would be on it&#8217;s knees but the government would be right behind them.  I&#8217;d hate to see it come to that but I have a feeling, especially with the socialists in charge now, that things are libel to go there.   I hope minorities and liberals  can prop up the government, because those of us on the &#8220;grassroots&#8221; right are getting really tired of footing the bill.  Maybe it&#8217;s time for us to become disenfranchised, and disengaged.  Time for us to play the victim card, &#8217;cause we are tired being silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Yates</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/serve-dont-dictate-long-time-conservative-d-c-insiders-need-to-go/#comment-449102</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Term limits won&#039;t work, if the goal is to eliminate career pols.  They&#039;ll just bounce back and forth between different state, party, and national positions.  Bottom line is its very hard to protect the voters from their own repeated mistakes and the only real lasting solution is education and communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Term limits won&#8217;t work, if the goal is to eliminate career pols.  They&#8217;ll just bounce back and forth between different state, party, and national positions.  Bottom line is its very hard to protect the voters from their own repeated mistakes and the only real lasting solution is education and communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Lee Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson Lee Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only infallible, unstoppable, guaranteed way to get a truly new Congress is :
NEVER REELECT ANY INCUMBENT! AND DO IT EVERY ELECTION!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrAOe4w1zzw

 Don&#039;t let anyone serve more than one term. Some of the reasons to do this:

• It gives us a one-term-limited Congress without using an amendment
• It encourages ordinary citizens to run for Congress 
• It is supported by 70% of the country (see Rasmussen and Cato polls)
• It is completely nonpartisan
• If repeated, it ends career politicians in Congress
• It opens the way to a “citizen Congress” of guys like you and me
* It would open a torrent of fresh ideas to improve our government
• It ends the seniority system that keeps freshmen powerless
• It doesn’t cost money. But you MUST vote! Just don’t vote for an incumbent
• It takes effect immediately on Election Day
• It is the only infallible, unstoppable, guaranteed way to “Throw the Bums Out”
• When the ‘pros’ stop running, ordinary citizens will run and win 
• If it doesn’t work, do it again and again! It will work eventually, without a doubt.

NEVER REELECT ANYONE IN CONGRESS. AND DO IT EVERY ELECTION!

nelson lee walker of tenurecorrupts.com
send for your free NEVER REELECT bumper sticker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only infallible, unstoppable, guaranteed way to get a truly new Congress is :<br />
NEVER REELECT ANY INCUMBENT! AND DO IT EVERY ELECTION!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrAOe4w1zzw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrAOe4w1zzw</a></p>
<p> Don&#8217;t let anyone serve more than one term. Some of the reasons to do this:</p>
<p>• It gives us a one-term-limited Congress without using an amendment<br />
• It encourages ordinary citizens to run for Congress<br />
• It is supported by 70% of the country (see Rasmussen and Cato polls)<br />
• It is completely nonpartisan<br />
• If repeated, it ends career politicians in Congress<br />
• It opens the way to a “citizen Congress” of guys like you and me<br />
* It would open a torrent of fresh ideas to improve our government<br />
• It ends the seniority system that keeps freshmen powerless<br />
• It doesn’t cost money. But you MUST vote! Just don’t vote for an incumbent<br />
• It takes effect immediately on Election Day<br />
• It is the only infallible, unstoppable, guaranteed way to “Throw the Bums Out”<br />
• When the ‘pros’ stop running, ordinary citizens will run and win<br />
• If it doesn’t work, do it again and again! It will work eventually, without a doubt.</p>
<p>NEVER REELECT ANYONE IN CONGRESS. AND DO IT EVERY ELECTION!</p>
<p>nelson lee walker of tenurecorrupts.com<br />
send for your free NEVER REELECT bumper sticker</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/serve-dont-dictate-long-time-conservative-d-c-insiders-need-to-go/#comment-448145</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke to Mr. Norquist last week and niavely asked why conservatives should work within the GOP, when things like what happened in NY23 are stricktly due to the ineptitude and duplicity of the party heads.  

I informed him of a similar thing happening in PA, with our GOP chair in bed with Jack Murtha and currently working to push the peoples choice out of the picture, Bill Russell, to put up his boy.  

Why should any conservative work within THAT party? 

Translation:  &quot;Give us your money and then sit down and shut up&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to Mr. Norquist last week and niavely asked why conservatives should work within the GOP, when things like what happened in NY23 are stricktly due to the ineptitude and duplicity of the party heads.  </p>
<p>I informed him of a similar thing happening in PA, with our GOP chair in bed with Jack Murtha and currently working to push the peoples choice out of the picture, Bill Russell, to put up his boy.  </p>
<p>Why should any conservative work within THAT party? </p>
<p>Translation:  &#8220;Give us your money and then sit down and shut up&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Malone wrote: &quot;I oppose artifical term limits. We already have term limits. It’s called voting. If someone is the rare individual doing a good job, “Please Sir, I’d like some more.”

Term limits is what caused so many good guys from the ‘94 revolution to leave in 2000.&quot;

Good points.  What happens is the half-way decent pols, the ones you want to stay there, honor their term limit pledges and the sleazebags simply ignore them and run again anyway.

I do think that by the time one has spent a couple of decades in DC, it&#039;s probably time to go.  I lived in DC for over a dozen years and I saw how the place works.  The minute a pol sets foot in DC, the pressure is on him or her to become a player.  Well, how do you do that in DC?  By busying yourself spending taxpayers money and making sure you haul enough pork home to keep the voters there happy. By getting on important committees, which means you have to play nice with your fellow pols. The game comes naturally to Dems; they ease up to the trough without a second thought.  But a conservative has to constantly do battle with the politican within - the pol that wants power and influence and the fun of setting the ground rules everyone else has to play by.  Is it any wonder that so many Republicans give up and go with the flow?  That how you get popular in DC - you get invited to the right dinner parties and the WaPo says nice things about you.  It take an exceptional person to hold his or her ground year after year after year, and as you may have noticed, backbones of steel are pretty uncommon among those who have a yen to run for office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Malone wrote: &#8220;I oppose artifical term limits. We already have term limits. It’s called voting. If someone is the rare individual doing a good job, “Please Sir, I’d like some more.”</p>
<p>Term limits is what caused so many good guys from the ‘94 revolution to leave in 2000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good points.  What happens is the half-way decent pols, the ones you want to stay there, honor their term limit pledges and the sleazebags simply ignore them and run again anyway.</p>
<p>I do think that by the time one has spent a couple of decades in DC, it&#8217;s probably time to go.  I lived in DC for over a dozen years and I saw how the place works.  The minute a pol sets foot in DC, the pressure is on him or her to become a player.  Well, how do you do that in DC?  By busying yourself spending taxpayers money and making sure you haul enough pork home to keep the voters there happy. By getting on important committees, which means you have to play nice with your fellow pols. The game comes naturally to Dems; they ease up to the trough without a second thought.  But a conservative has to constantly do battle with the politican within &#8211; the pol that wants power and influence and the fun of setting the ground rules everyone else has to play by.  Is it any wonder that so many Republicans give up and go with the flow?  That how you get popular in DC &#8211; you get invited to the right dinner parties and the WaPo says nice things about you.  It take an exceptional person to hold his or her ground year after year after year, and as you may have noticed, backbones of steel are pretty uncommon among those who have a yen to run for office.</p>
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		<title>By: RedFog</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedFog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THe problem is not the people in Congress: it is the people who elected them. 1. If there were no market for pork, there would be no pork. 2. The facts on Obama were there. 3. I would guess there are a significant number of Congressmen who get re-elected solely because they keep their heads down and their seats warm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THe problem is not the people in Congress: it is the people who elected them. 1. If there were no market for pork, there would be no pork. 2. The facts on Obama were there. 3. I would guess there are a significant number of Congressmen who get re-elected solely because they keep their heads down and their seats warm.</p>
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		<title>By: whyyeseyec</title>
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		<dc:creator>whyyeseyec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grover Norquist has become Grover Norquack...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grover Norquist has become Grover Norquack&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix48</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common.  How can you seriously say any of the afore mentioned &#039;left politics&#039;.  Certainly they didn&#039;t encamp to the 20th century Senate like Byrd or Thurmond.  You tank your own argument for Term limits invoking these founders as evidence.  All of these men devoted their lives to politics, both when actually serving in office, and after leaving.

I don&#039;t doubt your intentions Rich Vail, just the attempt to elevate your cause through historical misappropriation.

As for the citizens revolt - I&#039;ve heard it my whole life.  The Term limits movement had it&#039;s broadest success at the state level - and guess what - it&#039;s just as damaging there as it would be if you took us back into the 19th century.  I live in Arizona - and everyone is term limited - and it hasn&#039;t solved squat.

Marc Malone already pointed out the fundemental problem with the Term Limits argument.  We have elections.  As far as a movement - your cause ranks with bringing back the gold standard and a flat tax.

You make it happen and I&#039;ll eat by great-grandfathers &#039;Bryant in &#039;98&#039; pennant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common.  How can you seriously say any of the afore mentioned &#8216;left politics&#8217;.  Certainly they didn&#8217;t encamp to the 20th century Senate like Byrd or Thurmond.  You tank your own argument for Term limits invoking these founders as evidence.  All of these men devoted their lives to politics, both when actually serving in office, and after leaving.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt your intentions Rich Vail, just the attempt to elevate your cause through historical misappropriation.</p>
<p>As for the citizens revolt &#8211; I&#8217;ve heard it my whole life.  The Term limits movement had it&#8217;s broadest success at the state level &#8211; and guess what &#8211; it&#8217;s just as damaging there as it would be if you took us back into the 19th century.  I live in Arizona &#8211; and everyone is term limited &#8211; and it hasn&#8217;t solved squat.</p>
<p>Marc Malone already pointed out the fundemental problem with the Term Limits argument.  We have elections.  As far as a movement &#8211; your cause ranks with bringing back the gold standard and a flat tax.</p>
<p>You make it happen and I&#8217;ll eat by great-grandfathers &#8216;Bryant in &#8217;98&#8242; pennant.</p>
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