No, the Downs baby (Trig) isn’t Bristol’s kid, and no, the kid wasn’t born with Downs because (a) Palin flew on an airplane (b) went home to have the baby after an amniotic leak (c) because he was the result of incest between Todd Palin and Bristol.
No, Track (the kid who is leaving for Iraq) didn’t join the NG because he was a drug addict. He may have joined the NG because he was tired of people saying his Mom was getting him into the good hockey leagues. (Yes, that one was original reporting. I’ve got sources in Wasilla.)
Yes, Trig’s name may be misspelled. Isn’t it usually “Tryg” as in “Trygve”? In any case, I doubt he’s named for the secretary general of the UN (1948-1952), either. But at least that was before he was born, unlike the others. (Thanks to Chris, via his blog.)
Yes, it appears that she has a Big Dipper tattooed on her ankle. She lost a bet.
No, she’s never been in any porn as far as anyone can find (and God knows I get enough Google hits on those very topics). I would think the Big Dipper tattoo would be a giveaway.
No, no one seems to be able to even find swimsuit pictures of her from her beauty queen days; God knows I looked. The bikini pictures that are around are photoshopped, just like the Vogue cover I have up.
No, neither the (Canadian) National Post, nor Marc Armbinder at the Atlantic have troubled themselves to issue a correction. Yes, the New York Times did finally correct their story of September 1 — on September 5. And on page 14. This was after Elizabeth Bumiller was quoted by Howard Kurtz as saying she was “completely confident about the story.” Yes, that was after the New York Times‘s source retracted the story. Yes, this should embarrass the Times, Bumiller, and Howard Kurtz. No, there have been no signs of embarrassment.
No, she was never a Pat Buchanan supporter; even when Buchanan claims she was, she was on the board of Steve Forbes’ campaign in Alaska. Yes, Palin was a Steve Forbes supporter in 2000.
No, she’s not anti-semitic. In fact, she has an Israeli flag in her office. (Contrary to popular belief, the usual evangelical thinks Israel has a right to exist, granted by God.)
Yes, it does appear that Palin’s local pastor preached about an end time when God will judge everyone, even Wasilla, Alaska, and the United States. Duh. This is called the Book of Revelations, and while I don’t believe it personally, I don’t see it as a disqualifier for the hundred million or so Baptists, Methodists, Evangelicals, Episcopalians, Catholics, Assembly of God, Presbyterian, Lutherans (traditional and Missouri Synod), African Methodist, and so on Christians in the United States.
Yes, I do sometimes wonder about the state of Andrew’s health.
No, she’s doesn’t believe that the Iraq War was directed by God. Yes, she did pray that proceeding with the war was God’s will: “they should pray ‘that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.’” (Ever hear the phrase “Not my will, but Thine, be done”?) Yes, this apparently freaks some people right out.
No, Buchanan doesn’t support her now; in fact he’s supporting Obama. (Buchanan did think her speech was amazing, but then so do 80 percent of the people who saw it.) Or maybe not. Buchanan sure doesn’t like McCain though.
Yes, she was apparently pregnant when she got married
No, so far there’s no confirmation she had an affair while she was married, and they’ve denied it pretty strongly. No, she wouldn’t be the first Christian woman who got a little on the side, if it were true.
No, she wasn’t named as a co-respondent in a divorce; there’s no evidence she had an affair with her husband’s business partner. The partner tried to have his divorce records sealed because he was being harrassed by journalists who used them to get his phone number.
Yes, barring immaculate conception virgin birth (whatever), Bristol appears to have had sex with her fiancee. No, Bristol didn’t receive only “abstinence-only” sex ed. (The biggest item of controversy in this whole process has been, of all things, details of Christian doctrine and sectarian differences.)
Yes, I have it on reliable report that Sarah Levi’s mom has been heard screaming “Way to go Levi!” at her future son-in-law son. No, it doesn’t appear to have been when Bristol broke the news to her family. Note: I originally understood this story to be about Sarah, not Levi’s mom, in the context of hockey games. As such, it’s shouldn’t be in a Sarah Palin rumors story, but I like the story too much to delete it.
Yes, her 17 year-old-daughter is pregnant; no, the baby’s father is not an eighth grader; no, having sex at 16 is not statutory rape in Alaska. And no, there’s no way that a 17 year old can be 5 months pregnant as a result of having sex before she was 16. Learn to count for God’s sakes.
Yes, she did fire the public safety guy — but he said in the Anchorage paper that, for the record, she never, and no one else in her administration ever, tried to make him fire her ex-brother-in-law.
And yes, the state trooper (her sister’s ex-husband) she was worried about did: tase her 10 year old nephew; drive his state patrol car while drinking or drunk; did threaten to “bring her down”; and did threaten to murder her father and sister if they dared to get an attorney to help with the divorce.
Yes, the state trooper was suspended when he was put under a court protective order.
No, the trooper wasn’t fired.
Yes, she did fire the Wasilla police chief asayor; yes, it was because he was lying to the city council.
Yes, she did try, clearly unsuccessfully, to get Bristol married off to her fiancee before the story came out.
Yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive; no, they couldn’t; yes, it was “rhetorical,, at least as was reported contemporaneously in 1996 (and thanks to Cecil Turner@ Just One Minute for this); yes, she did threaten to fire the librarian a month later; no, that wasn’t over the books thing but instead over administrative issues; no, the librarian wasn’t fired either; yes, the librarian was a big supporter of one of her political opponents; yes, the librarian was also a close friend of the chief of police mentioned above; no, this is not the first time in the history of civilization that someone has been threatened with being fired over a political dispute.
No, the list of books she wanted to ban that’s being passed around isn’t real; among other things, it includes a number of books published after her time in office there.
No, that hasn’t actually deterred people from claiming it really is true even if the list isn’t correct. For example: “This list might not in fact reflect the books Sarah Palin wanted banned. As more than one person in Comments has pointed out, some of them were not published when Palin was in office. It is my hope that the mainstream media will not let this story drop and that at some point an actual list will surface. The very thought of having someone who once advocated book-banning possibly occupying one of the highest offices of our land fills me with profound dread. It should fill you with dread too.”
No, I don’t understand why a fake list is supposed to fill me with dread, either.
No, it wasn’t won’t be [bad tense, hasn't happened yet] a shotgun wedding; Bristol and Levi been engaged for a good while according to Levi’s mother. It was either an accident or just an unconventional order.
No, she’s not anti-Mormon. No, not all AoG churches are anti-Mormon. (AoG is even more hard-core about allowing each pastor and congregation to make their own decisions than the Baptists are.) (Thanks to AnonAmom in the comments.)
No, she’s not from another planet. No, I haven’t actually heard that one yet, but you wait. Okay, I have now heard it.
Yes, she apparently believes in some variant of intelligent design.
No, she didn’t try to force the schools to teach it; she said if someone brought it up, it was an appropriate subject for debate.
No, she doesn’t believe in “abstinence only” education. Yes, she thinks abstinence is an effective way of preventing pregnancy. Duh. Yes, she believes kids should learn about condom use in schools.
Yes, she did smoke marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska. Yes, she apparently did inhale.
Yes, she kills animals and eats them, and wears their skins.
Yes, she was a beauty contest contestant.
Yes, she was once a sportscaster.
Yes, she has a college degree in journalism, but I won’t hold that against her, as she seems to have found honest work as well.
Yes, she sometimes wears her hair up; no that’s not a “beehive.”
Yes, her husband is not a white person. (He’s a Yup’ik; an Eskimo but not an Inuit as my Inuit cousins have taken some pains to explain.)
Yes, she has on occasion, as mayor, tried to get money from the federal government.
Yes, she was vetted extensively, not just in three days — I’ve got links to press reports about people coming to Wasilla on May 29, and we had her on our Veepstakes at PJM from the first day we ran it.
Yes, she want to a bunch of colleges before getting a degree. No, that’s not illegal. Yes, she seems to have made something of herself anyway.
Yes, Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was written by a speechwriter. Duh. No, none of Obama’s, McCain’s, nor Biden’s speeches were impromptu off the cuff things either.
No, Sarah Palin doesn’t have such control of Alaskans that people are afraid to say bad things about her. (What, are you nuts? Look at this list.) No, I don’t think it’s likely that she called Obama “Sambo.” (Good God, man, I’m ten years older than she and I barely remember “Little Black Sambo.”) Yes, it seems unlikely to me that she’d be a real racist and marry a Yup’ik (or a part Yup’ik). But yes, people are capable of amazing things. Yes, I’m sure there are people who don’t like her — I’ve talked with some myself. And no, I don’t think this waitress would have been thrilled to be called an “aboriginal.” And yes, if she called Hillary a “bitch,” I’m pretty confident is wasn’t the first time anyone in politics has said that.
No, she’s not a “global warming denier,” and when the crush dies down remind me to explain why the very phrasing “global warming denier” is anti-scientific, anti-intellectual, and a clear sign of a desire to impose your beliefs by coercion. But in the mean time, while I do believe that she has expressed some skepticism that warming is wholly human-caused, the existence of the Alaska Climate Change Sub-Cabinet and the Alaska Climate Change Strategy work demonstrate that she’s considering the problem and has brought together people more expert than she to advise her.
Yes, Todd Palin did have a DUI. Twenty-two years ago. Get a grip.
No, Sarah Palin’s brother isn’t in jail. No matter what the commenter at Anderson Cooper’s page says. (Thanks to Galynn in comments.)
Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently doesbelieve that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality. No, believe it or not, even fundamentalist Christians don’t have to believe every little thing their pastor believes. Yes, Palin seems to be more libertarian about this.
Yes, contrary to press reports, Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law plans to vote for her and the R ticket (on Inside Edition this evening).
I heard she actually invented Glenn Reynolds’ patented Puppy Blender, though she mixed in fruit and flax seed and ice cream, so you can expect the McCain kool-aid drinkers to deny it by pointing out that they were technically puppy smoothies, not straight blended puppies…
[...] *No, she’s never been in any porn as far as anyone can find (and God knows I get enough Google hits on those very topics.) I would think the Big Dipper tattoo would be a giveaway.
* No, no one seems to be able to even find swimsuit pictures of her from her beauty queen days; God knows I looked. The bikini pictures that are around are photoshopped, just like the Vogue cover I have up. [...]
While enthused by Palin’s presence which has irreversibly turned McCain’s campaign in a clear winner, I’ll take the liberty to complement the above two points from the list of rumors with a funny description of her I got in The Daily Telegraphs (???):
“[...] with her beehive hair arrangement and retro spectacles, she’s got a bit of a naughty librarian air [...]” (slightly on Bettie Page line – my addition).
I like & I vote for naughty librarians and I urge everyone to do so.
Yes, she believes kids should learn about condom use in schools.
I’m not sure even the most liberal member of the senate would be in favor of learning about condom use in schools What do they do in school in Alaska? This is just shocking …
Obviously, you meant, “learn in school about condom use.”
Sorry. I couldn’t resist. I make these kinds of editing errors all the time.
Imagine hhow insignificant she is that the Obama machine is sending 30 lawyers to Alaska
to see what dirt they can dig up.. And Obama asked to be on O’Reilly during the Republican convention to try to upstage Ha
All you idiots running, Sarah Palin down are stupied and crazy..Why doen’t you all clean your own backyard. Big deal! Bristol is NOT the first nor the last to get pregnaut out of wedlock! Take a look at all the movie stars at least Bristol does NOT do dope, like HALF of those so called so “called singers and movie stars” Someone should “DIG DIG DIG” on BLUE LIP MOLE FACE OBAMA REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE that one showing on the computer is as phony as is.. some should go talk to his brother in Africa,,THAT LIVES ON 1 DOLLAR A MONTH to tell the REAL STORY..REPORTERS PAY HIM..while his Bro Obama live in a million dollar home..John Kennedy and Jackie they will NEVER be thats an insult to John and Jackie..no matter I much Michelle straightens for speeches..
The latest info on Palin came from a friend. Something about her selling the private jet on ebay Palin discussed at the RNC. My Dem friends say the she did not sell it on ebay and eventually sold it for less than it was worth. I would love to make them eat their words and tell them that the money from the sale of the jet went back to the people of Alaska…or at the very least make them realize that in selling the jet she was showing that she not only talks the talk about
less Government spending, she walks the walk. Please help me get some facts to tame these dem dogs-they are all over her like a pack of wild things and I’m SICK of hearing the barking and snarling!
I saw you on Fox News… Great job! The lib’ are a nervous wreck now.
When it comes down to actually being in the voting booth, a huge amount of voters will take the safe route and pick the “McCain/Palin” ticket for the USA. Keep up the Straight Talk to keep the lies from being believed by people who do not research what they hear!!!!
Great job! Thanks. Finally someone is getting the real info out! She’s not perfect but she’s not the monster the networks (except FOX) are making her out to be.
If I missed this in your extensive rumor busting, oopsie, but this is another very hot, seemingly erroneous topic circulating the Internet right now..
According to a (fellow) disability advocacy resource I cross cyber paths with and trust, no, Sarah did not cut special education funding.. It was instead redirected into other related buckets and in fact looks like it was (possibly) increased..
Please see:
* Bloggers, Media Allege Palin Slashed Special Ed Funds, Data Says Otherwise; jfactivist.typepad.com
Yes, the wolf hunting deal is reprehensible, but likewise is certain parties who once screamed foul over purported lies about themselves now consciously wildfiring their own about the competition..
Saw you a little while ago on Fox News. Thanks for the piece on Palin Fact vs Palin Fiction. The libs have stooped to some all time lows going after this woman and still they’ve come up with nothing of substance. Palin has re-energized the silent majority hopefully enough so that they will find their voices once and for all in November. There is no room in America for the likes of “bama” and his socialist cronies.
Not that it matters, but if Palins conceived on their wedding night, Track would have been only 4 weeks, 5 days early (from date of conception gestation is 38 weeks). Considering that Trig came a month early, it’s not a far-fetched proposition at all.
We don’t know and don’t need to know, but those saying that Track had to be 2 months early are screwing up their medical facts.
Laura, that’s #64. The “she lied” thing requires a peculiar definition of “lied” but McCain did say it wrong.
Mark, thanks, I’ll add that one once I an get to my server again. The short answer is that she was once on the board of the Ted Stevens GOP PAC — which predates his current legal issues — but she has been supporting his challenger in the primary, and he (the challenger) may yet win.
1. The Big Dipper tattoo on her ankle is the display on the Alaska State Flag. Which is drawn 5-pointed stars representing the Big Dipper and North Star in correct celestial display.
Can’t think of a more “appropriate” visible tattoo to have on the Alaskan Governor. I will leave the urgent need to know what other hidden tattoos, if any, Palin has to the MILF fans.
2. While her Guard commander likes the cut of her jibe as CiC, so to speak…he confirmed that in a year and a half, she made no decision affecting the Guard as the CiC.
She will make a fine VP. She is beautiful inside and out, a true champion of women eveywhere. She’s the anti-Hillary candidate. Once McCain wins which could be a landslide I think people will be surprised how well she does and how fast she learns. They will surround her with good people, not neo-cons. McCain will kick the neo-cons to the curb. I’m so sick and tired of liberals, male and female beating her up. As long as they keep doing it, her approval ratings will go up. Society doesn’t want to see any women, be they liberal or conservative being beat up. Look at how MSNBC savaged Hillary. It won’t work doing it to Palin. Obama is a media creation and the average person is starting to pay attention now.
Just caught you on Fox News…loved it! I was laughing my behind off at this list. I know the rumor mill is churning in blogosphere and the MSM but I had NO IDEA it was this bad. That says to me that they’re running scared of Sarah Barracuda!!
I am not among those who have said “earmarks are nothing more than pork projects being shoveled home by an overeager congressional delegation.” I recognize that Congress, which exercises the power of the purse, has the constitutional responsibility to put its mark on the federal budget, including adding funds that the president has not proposed.
Accordingly, my administration has recommended funding for specific projects and programs when there is an important federal purpose and strong citizen support.
This year, we have requested 31 earmarks, down from 54 in 2007. Of these, 27 involve continuing or previous appropriations and four are new requests. The total dollar amount of these requests has been reduced from approximately $550 million in the previous year to just less than $200 million.
I believe this represents a responsible approach to the changing situation in Congress. Some misinterpret this as criticism of our congressional delegation.
In fact, it responds to messages from the Congressional delegation and the Bush administration. They have told us that the number of earmarks in the federal budget will be reduced and that there must be a strong federal purpose underlying each request.
We have also heard that, wherever possible, earmark requests must be accompanied by a state or local match. So, there are state budget consequences that must be considered as well when we ask for federal help.
There is no inconsistency or hypocrisy between my previous statements concerning earmarks and the recommendations my administration made to the delegation on Feb. 15. Specifically, I said earlier that the state would submit no more than 12 new requests, excluding earmarks for ongoing projects and the Alaska National Guard. Our recommendations are consistent with my previous comments and recognize the new budgetary realities in D.C.
Saw you on Fox this morning.. I think this is great! Keep it up!
P.S. Has anyone noticed how when Obama was criticized by someones those someones were called racists, but when Sarah’s criticized it’s not sex discrimination it’s good journalism? Just curious…
Why is America obsessed with Troopergate but unconcerned about Obama’s ties to Rezko or William Ayers? Or the Annenburg paper? We are obsessed with finding out that Todd Palin had a DUI 22 years ago- but we care nothing about the fact that 22 years ago Barack Obama was an ADMITTED drug user. Palin may have changed her mind on a few issues, but the ones she did change her mind on benefited the people of Alaska. Barack Obama has flip flopped on almost every issue in this election and when he has done so it has been to benefit himself. Press making a huge deal about Palin attending 6 colleges- but have not bothered published to the fact that Obama got into Harvard on a favor from a dangerous Saudi man. They are questioning Palin’s qualifications but have never questioned Obama’s short time in the State Legislature, or the fact that he has spent over 2 years of his 3 year term in the Senate running for President. Additionally, they are completely ignoring the fact that his community organizing was done for AKORN- which is an organization that trains young people to get involved in the political process by cheating. The news today is that Palin cheated in the college beauty contests- but the press never uttered a single word about how the DNC rigged the entire primary and convention to ensure that Obama won the nomination. The media just disgusts me, and I think the American people need to take our country back.
The official website of the city of Wasilla (just google the town) has an interesting post on the history of “book-burning” in that town. It appears that any citizen of the town can object to a book in the library. They report four such complaints since 1980 (none, apparently, during Sarah Palin’s tenure). Three of the cited books were kept, one was move to a section that was inaccessible to children. None was burned.
Hi Charlie … Great list. I would caution however to avoid language in your list that looks sarcastic or partisan. People will dismiss your fine research as biased. Go through your list and purge the editorial comments. Just make this about facts.
If we really want to stand up to the smears we ALL have to be very careful about our language.
The tone of our debate has to change because so many on the other side are saying disgusting things. The only way to stand out favorably is to present facts dispassionately (without opinion).
Loved you on Fox. There are lots of other “facts” floating around out there. I disproved some I received in a ranting e-mail; if you want to send me your e-mail I’ll send my research to you. Meanwhile, keep up the good work. The latest is that she cheated in the Miss Wasilla contest. Have you found anything about that?
Great stuff, but I’d like to see more of it! Love Palin but my liberal friends keep sending me this article:
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal —loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary [presumably because it was not high enough]. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects — which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance —but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President [for a first term]; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.
There [have] to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.
However, there [are] a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.
CLAIM VS FACT
• “Hockey mom”: true for a few years
• “PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
• “NRA supporter”: absolutely true
• social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
• pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
• “Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
• “Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
• No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
• political maverick: not at all
• gutsy: absolutely!
• open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
• has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
• “a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
• fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
• pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
• pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
• pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
• pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90′s.
I have begun just giving the lefties a number and a link to Charlie’s blog to refer to when they paste the latest Palin rumor. Hey, conservation of energy isn’t just good, it’s the LAW.
I’ve heard a number of people assert — without evidence of course — that Palin is opposed to contraception (beyond teaching about condoms in school), and not just for herself (if she is). It would be nice to see a rebuttal to that rumor.
Regarding being pregnant with Track before being married, as one comment said he could have been 4 weeks and five days early with a wedding night conception.
Also, consider that most if not all women would not know they were pregnant until after a missed period, it is likely that Sarah and Todd would not be aware of a pregnancy prior to their wedding (at least certainly the wedding plans were in place prior to conception).
Jo-An, you can reach me via PJM, or you can comment on either blog, or here if you like. Janine (if that’s Janine Turner, call me; I’ve been crushing on you since Northern Exposure ) that’s Anne Kilkenny’s email that’s been distributed pretty widely. She’s also the one pushing the bookburning thing. She turns out to be someone who was on the losing side in several elections Palin won; a lot of what she says isn’t supported by contemporaneous accounts.
The best thing to come out of all the “Sarah rumors” was the total meltdown of MSNBC. Just cracks me up!!! The Dems (socialists) are their own worst enemy.
If Sarah’s husband is a Yup’ik, then like all ‘indigenous peoples’ in North America, would he not have a perfectly legitimate reason for supporting the independence of his native homeland? When the elitist members of the media SS go after supporters of the American Indian Movement with equal vigor…then they can be snarky about Todd Palin.
Re: Sarah’s religious convictions. She asked the audience to pray “that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.” This attitude is clearly evidence of someone who wants to make sure that our reasons for going to war are legitimate ones. I’d think the left would support and encourage this attitude.
Anne Kilkenny I get the feeling you’re a tad jealous of Ms. Palin. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. My bet is you’re in league with Obama. Perhaps if you would identify yourself as a liberal or a democrat you might find more people agreeing with your assessment. You sound vindictive and quite envious of Ms. Palin’s success. You sound bitter to me. What you should do is take that bitterness and employ it in a campaign for State wide office. Instead of running on your record or your ideas you could focus your entire campaign attacking Ms. Palin. What I would do is get a cut out life size poster of Ms. Palin and take it everywhere you go while campaigning. Then people could really see how silly you are. Those who can, can. Those who can’t, complain. Which are you!
I do have a rumor I would like to debunk, but have been unable to find info out that does that. My liberal friends have claimed that Sarah Palin hunts with an AK47. I am familiar with big game hunting in the West, but not Alaska, but I find it hard to believe. High powered rifle, scope yes, AK-47, I doubt it. My husband with some military knowledge says that an Ak 47 is not a long range weapon, and would not work past about a 100 yards.
Having hunted elk for meat, I find it silly to think you would use a submachine gun for any kind of hunting. Common sense tells you that you want a clean shot, and clean kill. Otherwise the meat is not usable, and I think an AK47 would destroy more than you would like.
Charlie, sir, would you please comment on the Anne Kilkenny letter? I also recieved it and was told it was the absolute truth about Mrs. Palin.
Is it?
Thanks, C
OK. OK. OK. So what if there are still some doubts out there about some of the allegations being made by the press? there are still many, many more that you have not yet answered:
1. That she has secretly met with Karl Rove and other purported Jews over the past year to plan to provoke Iran to bomb Israel so they can take over the world?
2. That she and her Eskimo husband punish their children by making them eat whale blubber while living in an igloo in their basement?
3. That she appeared in several lesbian (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course) porno films currently in circulation in Kazahkistan?
4. That she is addicted to Krispy Kreme donuts and has installed a secret vomitorium in her Juneau office so she won’t gain weight?
5. That when she was 24 she got rich by buying stock in a sandbag manufacturing company just before the Exxon Valdez oil spill?
6. That her pastor is a neo-Nazi fascist who was friends with Louis Farrakhan and other racist fascists?
7. That all her children are adopted and that she is not really a woman but was born Sam. B. Palin and had a sex-change operation in 1984 so she/he could pursue a political career based on playing gender-politics?
8. That she was scheduled for an appointment with her investment firm at the Twin Towers on Sept. 11th but mysteriously cancelled it at 8:10AM?
9. That in her hometowns in Idaho and Wasilla, local pets mysteriously disappear and are later found dead and drained of blood? Some say she is the Alaskan Chupacabra?
10. That she is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy to rob Hillary of her right to be the first female President of the U.S?
Saw you on Fox this a.m. love what you are doing….. I am a Sarah give the woman a chance fan. I can’t help but wonder, (excluding you) what is the fascination that these people have with Palin…? Speaking of the bloggers; do they have nothing better to do? I don’t see them actually flying to Alaska, interviewing individuals on a one-on-one basis, to get a true picture of this woman’s life.
The latest I have heard, is she “cheated” to win the Miss Wasilla pageant. Come on…. how absolutely ridiculous. That indicates to me that some sour grapes mom back in 19… whatever, wanted her baby to win, not Sarah..and “leaked that to some hell bent on finding something on Sarah reporter.” Give me a break.
Left wingers (far left) are running scared, scared of her actually being who she, which in this day and age in the political arena is quite refreshing.
Anne Kilkenny illustrates something that many may not realize about small town politics, which is that it’s quite factional and personal. Once upon a time I was involved in a business where many of the clients were small town governments, and I got to see it up close and personal. And it did get quite personal. In Pe Ell, WA, for example, the political opposition was known and the “barber shop gang”, because they hung out at the local barber shop and plotted against the administration in power.
Such is politics in small towns. The winners win, and the losers lose. And Anne Kilkenny is obviously one of the many losers that Sarah Palin has left in her wake.
I’ll confess, I didn’t click on all of your extensive “sources,” but quite honestly, college freshman wouldn’t be able to get away with the few I checked out. Your pretentious sarcasm might be warranted if you actually gave me some sort of information. Nothing wrong with being partisan, but please save the middle school research projects for our kids.
Try to be at least a little clever and use periods and upper-case letters where appropriate.
You telegraph your age by treating a discussion board like a text-message chat room.
And, of course, the content of your text-messages barely qualify as content.
Please, go back to watching Jon Stewart, playing video games, and surfing for online porn. Leave the adults to manage their affairs. Believe me, you’re at least three decades, marriage & children, a few college degrees, hundreds of books, thousands of articles, and a plethora of other experiences short of having a clue.
“The federal Office of Management and Budget defines earmarks as funds provided by the Congress for projects or programs where the congressional direction (in bill or report language) circumvents Executive Branch merit-based or competitive allocation processes, or specifies the location or recipient, or otherwise curtails the ability of the Executive Branch to manage critical aspects of the funds allocation process.”
Basically, earmarks are done by the legislative branch to get around (circumvent) the Administrative branch’s budget requests. So the Administrative branch CANNOT do earmarks. Period. When the administrative branch does it, the term is ‘budget request’.
So anytime you see a Governor accused of earmarking, you know someone is blowing smoke past your sphincter.
“Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt, radio address, October 26, 1939
32nd president of US (1882 – 1945)
Yes, Sara first considered the Bridge issue, as Clinton, in the debates, considered ‘illegal’ drivers license and both after follow up realized it was bad! Thats what good politicians do, so enough already!
Its what you do with the tax payers money thats important. Saras priorities are right on; she spent the bridge money on important causes to benefit her State & constituency. The one eyed beguiled Oamacans see the ‘splinter’ in their Saviors eye but see the ‘log’ in McCain and Saras eyes! Stop insulting our intelligence with your prefabricated biased spin! Ex Democrat
Isn’t it wonderful that such a stunning lady as Sarah Palin could create such a flurry to the Obama people that they are literally creating a fictional novel on the “life and times” of a little girl growing up in Wassila, Alaska. I wonder who will play her part in the movie? Surely, there will be a move since most of Hollywood is backing Obama! Will when the Hollywood folks finally realize that we don’t care a fig on who they support much less what they say? You go, Sarah, keeps their knees a-knocking!
Laura, it is impossible to sell something for less then it is worth. Value is established by the sales price.
It is commonplace for ‘experts’ to claim that something was worth more, in which case you need to ask those ‘experts’ for a check and close the deal right then and there.
I used to own a Toyota dealership. I once had a customer come back the next day and say that joe so and so told her we screwed her on the trade, that is was worth x dollars and we only gave her y. So I told her that she needed to go back and get Joe and bring him on down and we would let him buy her old car at his price and either give her the extra money or put it toward her new vehicle. We would do the paperwork for free. Suddenly Joe had thousands of excuse why he couldn’t do that.
My point is that it doesn’t matter what sombody who has no intention of buying thinks it’s worth. Market value is determined by the market, which means somebody has to make a sale and somebody has to come up with the cash.
There are many different books you can buy that give the “prices” of automobiles. They are all bogus, since their job is not selling an automobile, but selling that book. So once they have your 4.95$ they are done.
Chalie, this is excellent information. Thank you for taking the time to set this stuff straight for us. It is hard to believe we are spending so much time on this when Obama has the background he does and there is little “vetting” of that by the press or anyone else.
“Yes, it does appear that Palin’s local pastor preached about an end time when God will judge everyone, even Wasilla, Alaska, and the United States. Duh. This is called the Book of Revelations, and while I don’t believe it personally, I don’t see it as a disqualifier for the hundred million or so Baptists, Methodists, Evangelicals, Episcopalians, Catholics, Assembly of God, Presbyterian, Lutherans (traditional and Missouri Synod), African Methodist, and so on Christians in the United States.”
This doesn’t fairly represent the controversy surrounding the preacher at her church. He said during the last election cycle that he questioned the salvation of anyone in his congregration who voted for John Kerry.
I’m a liberal NY’er and I kinda like her. She’s obviously sharp, charming and doesn’t give off that media packaged stench that Obama does. The rumor stuff is nothing more than the wishful delusions of a few crackpot lefties. On the issues, she and I don’t necessarily see eye to eye. I lean towards a womans right to choose but I don’t dismiss every anti abortion argument out of hand. Morally, it’s a practice that’s tough to defend but practically, making it illegal won’t solve more problems than it creates. On guns, she’s from a state where not having them around is irresponsible. Big, predatory mammals live in close proximity to humans including children. On religion, I respect her faith but things like banning books, abstinence only education, teaching evolution, and assigning gods’ will to your particular policy strategy gives me great pause. I hope she can evolve on these issues. Banning books is a bad idea. Her own experiences should lead her to conclude that abstinence is an ideal seldom lived up to in the real world. On sex education, we should hope for the best but plan for the worst. Over time, I hope Sarah Palin can learn to be humble before god. She should realize his will in unknowable, not her or her preacher can know his will so they both should stop using his name to advance their agendas. Her record as governor has been superb. She’s cut waste, she’s taken on tough, entrenched interests and beat them and she’s done it all while being mother to five kids, one of whom she’s still breastfeeding. That says something about her work ethic and her tenacity. I like her. I hope she and McCain win.
Charlie, great job on the list. A board I frequent is convinced that her glasses are fake and have no prescription. I think these people are grasping at straws. Have any info?
I’m just wondering why everyone thinks she did so much to shake up the oil companies and help out Alaskans when Exxon just walked all over their obligation to our state’s fishermen and women. One of the biggest industries for the state and she let Exxon get away with basically paying nothing at all. p.s. Next time someone complains about the dems taking their guns away, why don’t you use them instead of claiming that you know how.
saw fox interview was great, i am from oregon and i wonder if she does not become the vp which i hope she will, if she could or would she move to oregon and run for governor so we can have the problems alaska has?
Nick, with all due respect to you, you sound like a typical left wing zealot or zombie as I like to label them. Anytime I hear someone screaming those words, right wing religious nuts it takes me back to Obama and his accusation of small town people clinging to their guns and religion. Don’t we all cling to something in life? Left wing individuals cling to their hatred of conservatives and conservatism. All one needs to do is log on to the Daily Kos and Move On forums. I’m sure Nick, if you needed some facts those forums would provide you with as much as cannon fodder as you might need to illustrate your misguided points. I look at Sarah Palin and see an individual who has earned everything she’s got in a good way. I look at Hillary(and yes I do like her) and see someone who is also smart, savvy, intelligent and a doer but received a lot of help along the way. Both women are hugely successful but in different ways. Just understand this, the more people like you and those hate sites, Move On and Daily Kos keep making the vicious personal attacks, the more support McCain-Palin will receive. Men like myself don’t want to see any women attacked like Hillary was by the left wing loons or Sarah Palin is now by the same groups. We abhor this. Sarah’s religion is a personal thing. She hasn’t said or done anything that would warrant someone like me withdrawing my support for her or McCain. You’re going to be surprised on November 4th. Of course be made aware that McCain-Palin will be ready for the smears the week before the election. There is going to a lot of them. Obama is a rookie, a good one I admit. But he doesn’t have the necessary strength to protect America the way it should be protected. He’s Jimmy Carter the 2nd. In closing Nick, Jesus loves us all the same and he loves you too. Good luck.
I have a couple more “fact from fiction” items to add.
1. Despite what Karl Rove has said, Wasilla is NOT the 2nd largest city in Alaska. Except for Anchorage, there ARE no large cities in Alaska (and for some of us, saying Anchorage is a large city is debatable.)
2.
Contrary to what some people want to believe, Palin is running for VP, NOT President. McCain will be the President. Now, if you are a McCain supporter, by all means, vote for him, but I doubt that Palin will have much influence on what happens in the White House. I don’t see the logic of those voters who are suddenly in the McCain camp b/c of the addition of Palin.
People, use your heads. Vote for Obama or vote for McCain, but vote on the ISSUES that you believe in. Don’t vote for any candidate b/c they are “like you” (you don’t know these people…you see what they want you to see) or b/c they like hunting and you like hunting, or b/c they are black/white, male/female, or b/c you like the looks for their family. Quit watching tv, do some research, look at their stands on the issues..not just now but their past records, and make your choice that way!
Everything you said…….u ended up saying..
“so what”……..”so what”…I even learned things about her that I didn’t know….you again, said “so what”…………….so what about Obama……give him the same courtesy!!!!!
Sarah Palin is a gun totin’ hot mama who does NOT belong in the White House…she is smart but ‘ordinary’……..I could never follow her…I would not be true to myself…..I support PRO-CHOICE! and do not seek answers in the Almighty…..let alone Holy Rolers…..even tho’ she is no longer a member……….how could she ever join to begin with……..I question her judgement and her have yet to hear her views on health care, economy, war and all of the above issues……………….I do know she kills animals…..for that I know she has a wild streak, for sure………even for food…
of course all of these rumors are gonna surface b/c she was too coward to do an interview… is the american public supposed to be so naive b/c she did an insulting speech and not question who she is… pls your results r just that, your results… simply put McInsane is a reckless, hotheaded old man, who picked the hottest babe he could fine… I hope your houses aren’t up for foreclosure or that u r expecting to send your kids to college…oh that’s right rednecks live in trailors and only get 10th grade education
obama/biden 08…. even the world knows that!!!!
Charlie – In fact, she has an Israeli flag in her office.
Thinking about that, it bothers me. I have a problem with any US elected official displaying the flag of a foreign nation in their office. Not just the China, Russian, Saudi stuff….but flags of other more banal nations. Even Canada, Mexico, the UK Jack. It colors the office by indicating a dual loyalty to some other nation than the American one the elected official was sworn to serve – based on ethnicity or religion.
Palin should shitcan the Israeli flag – be she Chistian Zionist or not.
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Nick – nick:
Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, Lyda Green is a cancer survivor.
Bitches never get cancer?
Or is it bitches with cancer, or who are constipated, or seen wearing mismatched mittens should not be giggled at…being noble victims and all…
Amazing. The truth comes out and the media flinchs. It’s lke this. No matter what anyone says about Sarah Palin and her family, the media (except Fox) will find something, however minute, to reflect a negative aspect of her. Their favoritism of the Democratic party and their unsubstantiated bias are a reflection of their own fears of admitting that they are wrong about her. Since they have nothing to go by, except the left wing bloggers and pundits who are more concerned with dishing about their own perjudice and bias, they will only spew out generalities that they come upon, or manipulate them to their own preconcieved notions. I am and have always been a “moderate” Republican. I have at times voted for Democrats when I knew that they would serve our local government well, ( I like small town living, alot quiet than the Bronx), But I refuse to go overboard until I hear and see both sides of the issues. I believe also that the “average” Amreican that will go and vote will do the same when they go to their local poll and votes their “Concience” and the “issues” and not their Party or Personality.
Charles;
What about the rumor?(fact?) that Sarah dated Barack while she was attending school in Hawaii; Barack never got over his broken heart when she dumped him, and that’s when he vowed never again to date white women.
I’m hearing crazy lib rumors that now her daughter and betrothed are now dropouts. THE boyfriend is 18 – I don’t see how he can be a drop out. Any info on the future of these two young people regarding education?
You just can’t ever get it right can you?
I know that you are not familiar with the word “religious” but good grief, look how you spelled it! We were going to cut you some slack because you were young. At 56 you have no excuse.
A pro-Obama media is actually helping the Republicans achieve the presidency.
This pro-Obama media, including the NY Daily News, took an inexperienced Obama, and made him into a Jesus figure, embellished his “no accomplishments and inexperience” into the most competent candidate, the most experienced candidate around, when in reality- HE NEVER WAS!!!!!
They finagled the delegates and the superdelegates to Obama’s side, and whats worse, they skipped over Hillary, the real qualified candidate, the real winner within their circle of candidates–ANGERING Hillary’s supporters in the process.
So, by building this hype about Obama, they put forward the least qualified person on the ticket, instead of the most qualified person and for that, the media and the Democrats will pay dearly on November 4th..
BRISTOL/SARAH:
The problem with teenage pregnancy is that most teenagers cannot take care of their babies, so they depend on public assistance. This is not true in Bristol’s case-she is a pregnant teen, not a burden on our society, she will not receive welfare or public assistance, the baby’s father is around and proud, and Sarah Palin will help daughter take care of the baby.
Having said that, for those who chose to crucify Bristol and her mother for her “one time mistake” where Bristol became pregnant (it happens to the best and worst of us), I would worry more about a “one time mistake” Senator Obama made, subscribing to a racist and hate mongering church and its reverend demonizing America and the white race, and repeated this mistake over and over again for 20 years.
So Bristol’s “one time mistake”, vs Senator Obama’s 20 yr mistake, you be the judge.
SHE MAKES ME SICK!
She is a whiner and wants everything HER way. She does need to stay home and take care of her family. God only knows how bit a disaster she can cause in Washington
I have a problem with any US elected official displaying the flag of a foreign nation in their office. Not just the China, Russian, Saudi stuff….but flags of other more banal nations. Even Canada, Mexico, the UK Jack.
Ah, the smell of disingenuousness in the morning. It smells like…..desperation.
skip: Without giving her birthday, couldn’t she have just turned 17, and therefore, would have had to have sex while she was still 15?
You are joking, right? How many months in a year?
carolyn: As Pontius Pilate (another Governor!) said, “What is Truth?” A lot of the things Kilkenny says are verifiable in one way or another: yes, Wasilla has a multimillion dollar mortgage; they’ve also got a multimillion dollar sports center, which I suspect is quite an improvement in the quality of life there in February. They’ve had a lot of growth; they’ve also got a Wal-Mart, and I can tell you, having grown up in a town that size in Colorado, a Wal-Mart can be the difference between picking up a screwdriver on your way home, and a 100 mile trek to town and back. I do know that she was re-elected about 8-2 after setting this stuff up, so I get the impression Kilkenny’s opinion isn’t universally shared. But whether Kilkeeny is more correct, or Palin is, I think you have to decide for yourself. Just be aware that Kilkenny is someone who has been on the losing side in several elections Palin won,
nick: she said Iraq was a task form God
That would be #23. Check it.
Flanders: That’s the beauty of the Web, isn’t it? You don’t like my sources, research and find out for yourself. I think my sources stack up pretty well versus, say, Sullivan’s sources that Trig isn’t really Palin’s baby.
ny nick: He said during the last election cycle that he questioned the salvation of anyone in his congregration who voted for John Kerry.
So what? Is he running for anything you’ve heard about?
melanie: I’m afraid i can tell you from sad experience that sometime around 40, the glasses are usually no longer fake, no matter how good your eyes started out. I’ll ask. PS. She may well color her hair, too.
jessica: that would be #20. She’s doing a two part interview with ABC end of the week as well. Do try to remember her son is shipping out for Iraq in the near future (departure ceremony on Thursday.)
Oh hell, there’s another one.
72. Revealing a scheduled public departure ceremony for the National Guard is not an OPSEC violation.
cedarford: You tell her.
Ben: I don’t believe it for a second, but if you could get Denzel Washington, Julia Roberts, and Hallie Berrie associated with it I bet you could sell it to Dreamworks.
What an opinionated piece.
You certainly slanted everything for your girl.
How many times do you have to add the word “duh” when you dislike a fact?
This looks like it could have been written by a 1st Grader. Obviously you 5th grader would have produced a better article.
You should also try grouping the positives vs negatives, facts vs fiction, political vs personal. You wound up with a very disorganized, very odd mess of garbage!
Are you a writer, journalist or just an amateur? I suspect the latter.
Great reporting. This is one of the most comprehensive lists about rumors and the facts I’ve seen. I really appreciate all the work that it took to make this accurate. Congratulations!
Comment by Laura – Something about her selling the private jet on ebay Palin discussed at the RNC. My Dem friends say the she did not sell it on ebay and eventually sold it for less than it was worth.
Actually if you listened to the speech Palin made at the RNC convention she stated, That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.
Nothing was said that the plane was sold on ebay, just that she put the plane on ebay.
It’s best to make sure that you listen to whats being said, then double checking to make sure that you have the facts straight.
“without even refuting any facts we have laid out.”
That is because before we refute them they have to be laid out. It is a linear process. Sequential too.
Youse guys have put forth rumor and innuendo (look it up, unlike youse guys, it is in a dictionary) by the benjo wagon load, but not a fact one.
So get on your horsie, round up a fact and herd it on in. THEN we will dispute it.
Here is a fact. Obama IS A MUSLIM. Islamic law says that if your dad is a Muslim, you are a Muslim. There is no choice involved. Obama denies he is a Muslim, Under Islamic law he is still a Muslim, just an apostate Muslim. Islamic law says he is to be put to death and Allah will take it from there.
Secular types think that he gets a choice and when he says he’s not a Muslim, he isn’t. That is because seculars don’t believe in life after death, that once you die, that’s it, it’s over. Muslims see this life as a temporary thing, that the real life begins after death, so that while Obama may think he’s not a Muslim, after he dies he will find out otherwise.
It think that is in5An3, but what you and I or even Obama thinks is beside the point.
It is what those billion or so Muslims think that is dangerous.
ALL this is a matter of FACT, that can be googled by anyone that wants the facts.
So Ohhhhh…..BAAMA screwed up when he was first hit with the Muslim issue. Him and his elitist advisers didn’t think the voters would understand that the Laws of Islam are different, which is why we are at war with them. So they tried to blow it off instead of explaining in detail what being born a Muslim means.
Now that really stooooopid decision is starting to haunt him. What counts here is it’s another example of a bad decision by Obama. Jsut like Biden and the Birth certificate issue. Enough bad decisons to make one question his decision making ability. Added to his record of voting “present”, it is enough to make one fear his decision making ability.
“It is our choices…that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.”
J. K. Rowling, Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets, 1999
British fantasy author
“The latest info on Palin came from a friend. Something about her selling the private jet on ebay Palin discussed at the RNC. My Dem friends say the she did not sell it on ebay and eventually sold it for less than it was worth.”
Laura,
(The stern tone is intended for the Kool-Aid drinking tools that post here.)
All right, enough already with the airplane on eBay! Idiot trolls repeat after me: Buying and selling an airplane is much like buying and selling an automobile or a yacht. Once you buy it, only in rare instances does the value go up (as with so-called classic or restored automobiles).
Most of the time, they depreciate both physically and monetarily. Also, there are strict requirements for inspections (“annuals”) and — oh Lordy — a ton of other costs for maintenance and upkeep like hangering or tie-down, fuel costs (av gas is more than automobile gasoline), and the like.
So the fact that she sold it for less than it was bought is illusory. She got rid of an asset that she felt was a financial burden on the people of Alaska and that she felt she could not justify the continued costs. She may very well have determined that, by flying commercially or with another state of Alaska aircraft:
By the way, the above article states that the jet she sold cost almost $1700 per hour to fly, points out a number of steps that Sarah Palin took TO REDUCE COSTS, and (and!) the article was written in April of this year — well ahead of this ‘controversy”.
Laura, a previous response has deconstructed the semantics of selling something for less than it’s worth (rather adroit, I might add) but, in plain truth, what people are gassing about is that the jet was sold to a supposed crony for about $5-600,000 less than market value. I can’t comment on this, but for those who wish to do the research, here is a link for aircraft the bluebook values:
Personally, I think people are over-reaching on this one and may just get themselves burned badly. But, to paraphrase P. T. Barnum, you’ll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the MSM.
The Miss Alaska Pageant has never been called a
“beauty pageant.” In fact, they have gone to great lengths to refer to it as a “scholarship pageant” for years. It is a preliminary for the Miss America Pageant and normally in the press is NEVER referred to as anything but. The press is not being factual…has Phyllis George ever been referred to as a “beauty queen”. The difference between a beauty pageant and a scholarship pageant is the Miss America Pageant is judged heavily on talent and a judges interview.
This is a short story anyway. McCain and Palin cannot possibly win. We do not want 4 more of the last 8 years. Palin is Bush reincarnated. She will even need a hidden receiver and earphones in case she participates in debates, as Bush did. The American Public cannot be THAT Stupid to vote in another Bush droid!
Once they lose, we will never hear from them again! Their 15 minutes will be Over!!
of course all of these rumors are gonna surface b/c she was too coward [sic] to do an interview… is the american [sic] public supposed to be so naive b/c she did an insulting speech and not question who she is… pls your results r {sic] just that, your results… simply put McInsane is a reckless, hotheaded old man, who picked the hottest babe he could fine…[sic] I hope your houses aren’t up for [sic] foreclosure or that u r expecting to send your kids to college…oh that’s right rednecks live in trailors [sic] and only get [sic] 10th grade education [sic]
Jessica,
Please consider this response a loving intervention and accept these heartfelt recommendations:
(1) Understand the difference between text messaging and writing in clear, concise, grammatically correct sentences.
(2) Get real cozy with your editor’s spell-checking feature.
(2) Enroll in the nearest JC English course you can “fine”
Thank you for this Charlie. We need more bloggers like you to actually post the truth and not a bunch of BS like some bloggers on PJM. Most of your sources are cited too.
Dee; the only thing worse than “4 more of the last 8 years” is 4 more years of 9/11′s that an Obama/Biden administration would invite by their utter fecklesness.
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”…..
“This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.”
it was published by Charley James –on Alaska speaks. This is horrible! While I am sure there have been tasteless comments made in anger at one time or another IN PRIVATE by all candidates, I’m hoping this one can be discredited. I AM voting for McCain/Palin however this turns out because I believe their hearts are good and they will serve Americans best.
Shelley, I can’t promise that everything in this is absolutely accurate, even excluding the jokes. That’s why in several places you see strikeouts. What I do promise is that if I get something wrong, I’ll correct it.
give us the links or the source of some of this “rumor dispelling.” i want to know who raised the questions to begin with…..liberal bloggers is not a sufficient answer either.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (and your evidence is? that is equally gifted even without a teleprompter? youtube is overcrowded of the stuttering and babbling of obamba)
so how dumb you feel in voting a pompous ass that wrote himself “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”
Oh, and since the oceans began to slow on july 2008 approx as your messianic author said, be sure you check before you dive.
Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently does believe that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality. No, believe it or not, even fundamentalist Christians don’t have to believe every little thing their pastor believes. Yes, Palin seems to be more libertarian about this.
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I don’t know where Charlie get that fundamentalists “don’t believe gays can repent and besaved” I’m a 64 yr.old fundamentalist in the Midwest and have never heard that one!s That is the basis of true fundamentalist Doctrine and teaching in the Bible.
Bewildered
Would you please comment on her religious beliefs and the alarming comments coming from the pulpit of her church? I’m incredibly disturbed by the Dominionist rhetoric I am hearing.
Wow, I love all some of the stuff you’re claiming as fiction has already been proven otherwise. Do you have problems sleeping at night, or is ignorance truly bliss?
SHE MAKES ME SICK!
She is a whiner and wants everything HER way. She does need to stay home and take care of her family. God only knows how bit a disaster she can cause in Washington
You are a sexist idiot. And the really burning part is this: you are discriminating against fathers. All of you who post this sexist drivel about Governor Palin are guilty of maligning Todd Palin, and indeed all fathers everywhere. Not content to tell women that their place is in the home, not in the workplace, you have to do it in such a way as to tell men “you cannot raise children, that’s a woman’s job.”
Please, please tell me why you think Todd Palin is unqualified to raise his own children?
Would you please comment on her religious beliefs and the alarming comments coming from the pulpit of her church? I’m incredibly disturbed by the Dominionist rhetoric I am hearing.
This is only a valid topic if Reverend Wright is a valid topic, you realize that, don’t you?
julie, only if you comment on the religious beliefs and the alarming comments coming from the pulpit of Obama’s church.
If you are so concerned with homosexuality you should be terrorized that the democrats have endorsed and applauded with a standing ovation the president of the Islamic Society of North America, Ingrid Mattson who believes, like all muslims do that homosexuals should be hanged (like it happens in iran).
The democrats endorsed her granting her a speech. I doubt you have enough brain to draw a logic conclusion about who is more likely to burn a gay.
You posted a link to a youtube video of a Fox News interview with the former head of the Alaskan National Guard, who, apparently, when interviewed by Fox, felt an obligation to say Palin is instrumental in the operations of the Alaskan National Guard.
However, when interviewed by the AP, he sort of tells it a bit differently with regard to a governor’s relationship with their respective National Guard branch :: “Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “extremely responsive and smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
However, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.”
Basically, his last quote is the key issue I think people are bringing up with respect to her executive experience on a national scale. I should say that while Maj. Gen. Campbell is impressed (or pleased) with her performance with the Alaskan National Guard, it offers rather little comfort to those questioning her ability to lead one of the world’s largest armed forces.
Here’s an answer to a Palin smear on her mothering skills, based on Bristol’s pregnancy.
According to the Washington Post, Bristol was under the supervision of an aunt in Anchorage while the rest of the family was in Juneau from mid-school-year (which includes 5 months ago).
The criticisms of Sarah Palin for not being a good mother based on Bristol’s pregnancy should be limited to trusting an aunt to watch over her daughter as well as she would while the rest of the family was in Juneau.
From the Washington Post:
“The family still lives in Wasilla most of the time, in an airy wood-frame house on the shore of Lake Lucille, upscale by Alaskan standards. The governor’s mansion in Juneau, the state capital, is home only when the legislature is in session, and even then to only some of the family. The Palins enrolled the two youngest girls in Juneau schools, but Bristol went mid-school-year to live with her aunt in Anchorage, finishing at the city’s West High School.”
Is there some special dispensation for cancer survivors that says we can no longer be called bitches?? This is news to me. Someone forgot to send me the memo on that, I guess.
On the other hand… when my sister found out I had cancer, she said that I had “too much bitch” in me to die from cancer. Do I need to denounce my sister for referring to a cancer survivor as a bitch? Is there a hotline for the purpose?
Victor, compare what I said and what you quoted. When you ask me about something I said, I’ll be happy to comment.
James, you’re going to have to be a little more specific. But if you think there’s something wrong, leave me a comment here or at the rumors page. As you’ll see from the other strikeouts, I make corrections.
Terry, how many military command decisions do you suppose the usual governor makes? Or the usual President, for that matter? (Lyndon Johnson was a notable exception, and he also was notable for the hash he made of things thereby.)
Once a state’s national guard is commandeered by the Feds, the state governor no longer commands it. I think this should be obvious in itself. Why would the feds give governor commands of troops in theatre like Iraq or Afghanistan?
But this does not negate the fact that as the governor, she does have command of the national guards in other time, giving her military commander in chief responsibility. which is far more “commander in chief” experience than Obama and Biden combined.
And for that matter, why would the feds give national defense responsibility to most governor anyway? … well the only exception is actually the Governor of Alaska does oversee a National guard unit that is part of the national missile defense.
“No, she’s doesn’t believe that the Iraq War was directed by God. Yes, she did pray that proceeding with the war was God’s will: “they should pray ‘that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.’” (Ever hear the phrase “Not my will, but Thine, be done”?)
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The quotes make it clear that she wants our leaders to pray that they are doing the right thing. I’m against McCain and Palin, but what’s wrong with that?
Your wording that I’ve underlined can be misread as saying that she believes that the war IS God’s will. It doesn’t mean that. (I would have written that clause as “pray that proceeding with the war be God’s will”, but hardly anyone knows how to use the subjunctive anymore, and we’ve lost some meaningful distinctions.)
Thanks so much for taking the time to really sort out Palin truth vs. Palin rumor! You’ve done an excellent job … very informative. I saw you on Fox and went to your site right away. Great work!
The National Guard of the United States is a reserve military force composed of state National Guard members or units under federally recognized active or inactive armed force service for the United States [1][2]. The National Guard of the United States is a joint reserve component of the United States Army and the United States Air Force and maintains two subcomponents: the Army National Guard of the United States [1] for the Army and the Air Force’s Air National Guard of the United States [1].
Established under Title 10 and Title 32 of the U.S. Code, state National Guard serves as part of the first-line defense for the United States.[3] The state National Guard is divided up into units stationed in each of the 50 states and U.S. territories and operates under their respective state governor or territorial government [4]. The National Guard may be called up for active duty by the state governors or territorial commanding generals to help respond to domestic emergencies and disasters, such as those caused by hurricanes, floods, and earthquakes.[4]
With the consent of state governors, members or units of state National Guard may be appointed to be federally recognized armed force members in active or inactive service [5][6][7]. If so recognized, they become part of the National Guard of the United States [1]. The National Guard of the United States units or members may be called up for federal active duty in times of Congressionally sanctioned war or national emergency [4]. State National Guard may also be called up for federal service, with the consent of state governors, to repel invasion, suppress rebellion, or execute federal laws if the United States or any its states or territories are invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation, or if there a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the federal government, or if the President is unable with the regular armed forces to execute the laws of the United States [8]. Because both state National Guard and the National Guard of the United States relatively go hand-in-hand, they are both usually referred to as just National Guard.
..I would have to say, from the above, it’s pretty clear that Governor Palin is pretty much the head honcho of her state’s troops.
It’s so sad that this nation has become so divided. Responsibility and accountability on one side and everything goes on the other. We’ve come to this point because one side believes that the majority should rule and that doing for others is more important than doing for yourself; while the other side believes that no one should ever feel bad or ostracized for their behavior or choices and the government should be there as a giant pacifier.
The joke is that the Republican Party started because it wanted to end slavery (giving everyone the chance to pursue the dream) AND it was a Democrat who famously said, “Ask not what your country can for you…and who is in line first with open palms? And who is saying that Mrs. Palin shouldn’t have the choice to be a mom and govern? This is a tiny sampling of an astonishingly long list of hypocrisy by the Dems.
It seems to me that Obama is just following his party of flip-floppers and double-talkers and denigrating Sarah Palin just proves my point.
Is either candidate perfect? Of course not. If 20% of the rumor list is true, I’m good to go. After all, how many of us have a background that is 80% to the good? And that is where/why the Obama/Biden camp is freaking–their faults/shortcomings far outweigh 20% and thus the need to try and find every dust mote in Sarah’s life.
I applaud and thank Charlie Martin for keeping the 20% real!
Not to change the subject, but here’s a piece of worthwhile reading:
(Note: This is an interview given prior to Sarah Palin coming onto the scene and within 7 days garnering more positive support and approval than Obama did in 18 months!)
Nancy Pelosi talks about the importance to have young women in politics…
Adrian, that’s really the heart of it, isn’t it? I’m pro-choice — the “above my pay grade” remark is one of the few times I’ve really agreed with Obama — and think gays ought to be permitted to marry, if only because I don’t see why they should get off easy compared to straight people. But Palin is comparatively libertarian about most things, and she is exactly the example of a woman doing what only men could do a few years ago.
People like Pelosi ought to ask themselves if they’re more interested in their ideals, or onto clinging to power.
For the people who can’t add and think if you just turned 17 you can be 5 months pregnant and have conceived before you were 16, here is the math. 12 months in a year. 12 -5 = 7. So even if her birthday were today and she just turned 17, she would still had to have been at least 16 when she conceived. Please learn basic math skills.
Back when John Kerry was being spun up as a consummate Vietnam War Hero and military commander extraordinaire – Democrats counted on the unfamiliar just latching on to surface details and the 3 war wounds and “hero medals” and swallowing the whole “proven under fire to be ready for CiC” spin.
What they forgot is that 1.3 combat zone Vets who served in ‘Nam that knew what it was actually like there and that Kerry had all the foul aroma of a duplicitous, embellishing officer. And another 24 million who served who had a fairly good idea of who was more credible to them – Kerry or his fellow officers who considered him a dishonorable dirtbag.
Republican spinmeisters are making a big mistake trying to fluff up Sarah Palin as a seasoned military and national defense CiC.
What Terry said is something that must be repeated so that people with no understanding of what Reservists do or who they report to is clear.
“Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “extremely responsive and smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
However, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.”
She is not in control.
She is not briefed.
Again,
She is not in control.
She is not briefed.
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Huan – Why would the feds give governor commands of troops in theatre like Iraq or Afghanistan?
But this does not negate the fact that as the governor, she does have command of the national guards in other time, giving her military commander in chief responsibility. which is far more “commander in chief” experience than Obama and Biden combined.
And for that matter, why would the feds give national defense responsibility to most governor anyway? … well the only exception is actually the Governor of Alaska does oversee a National guard unit that is part of the national missile defense.
Huan, she is not in control. She is not even briefed in those matters.
She does not oversee or have any command authority at any time over any Guard assigned national defense or Homeland Security missions. She has no authority to assign them as she wants to military missions, nor authority to pull them for natural disaster or civil disturbance duty (where she does have domestic control – when the Feds free them from national assignments.)
And not to puff up Biden, but the facts are he has has extensive experience in war college, Pentagon exercises evaluating national defense effectiveness. Biden is a player, who has worked in those evaluated exercises as anything from POTUS, to a top diplomat advising POTUS or engaging enemy diplomats – to being in the role of leader of an allied or enemy country he is familiar with – in the Blue-Red Force conflict scenarios.
Obama has been in one such exercise and “failed open” – unable to make decisions well or in a timely manner. (Can’t vote “present”, I guess..)
Palin has never been tested or in a military cammander capacity at any level. That is not a black mark. It is just the facts, and no different than many other people who have served well as VPOTUS or POTUS in the past. Think of Reagan, Clinton, VP Humphrey.
McCain has served as commander in actual conflict and in exercises and has done “satisfactorily” to “very well” in both. (With some negatives that McCain is too impulsive to some, lets his temper get in the way, and was/is not the smartest guy in Naval aviation or national defense exercises.
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William of Orange – ..I would have to say, from the above, it’s pretty clear that Governor Palin is pretty much the head honcho of her state’s troops.
She is the titular head. Meaning she has no authority over any military mission (“not in control, and we don’t brief her.”)
If not doing military duties, she can assign them to help clean up a salmon dieoff, or put them under the civilian police chain-of-command. If such situations involve Feds having the lead and ordering her Guard to pick up dead salmon here and there, or be subordinate to a Federal force for police actions in an emergency – she has to give consent – unless the President declares by Executive order that he takes away the governor’s authority and Federalizes the Guard because the Governor is not adequately discharging the duties of office. And Posse Commitatus does not apply.
This was done by Eisenhower when after Govs threatened to use their Guard to block civil rights orders, Ike just took their Guard away or showed up with a military command team ready to take over if the Governor remained intransigent.
It should have been done by Bush or threatened to be done in Katrina, when Gov Blanco became emotionally and mentally unable to cope with the disaster response and command her Guard do domestic 1st responder and civil order work..
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Point being, Republicans should avoid the Kerry Fiasco in thinking they can put one over on a guillable public by puffing up Palin. Kerry was hurt by the campaign calling him a war hero when all it did was dredge up what he actually did back then. And Palin will be hurt by Republican shills calling her a “national energy expert” and “seasoned military commander” when the public concludes those outlandish claims are not rooted in fact.
Palin has many impressive abilities and credentials. Republicans should avoid pretending she has abilities and credentials she doesn’t really have.
I say that as someone that wanted Thompson, found him too lazy, hate to have to hold my nose and vote McCain, but he is better than Obama – who unlike Palin so far – has embraced doing fraudulent testimony to his abilities and in matters of experience, that he has no dealings in.
Stevens: No Action for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ by Palin http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/08/stevens_no_action_for_bridge_t.html
“Count Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) as a defender of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s position on the controversial “Bridge to Nowhere” project.
“I don’t remember her ever campaigning for it. As a matter of fact, she was very critical of it at the time. And she took the money and did not use it for the bridge, so you’re wrong, as far as I’m concerned,” Stevens said today.”"
Was Fox News so desparate to find anyone making an attempt to defend Sarah Palin’s record as mayor and governor that this blog’s author was the best source they could find? These are not researched, factual refutations of rumors. These are OPINIONS about rumors. That is not the same thing and laughably inane as a defense for the legitimate questions about Sarah Palin’s background that suggest she is a horrible choice for vice president.
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“Huan, she is not in control. She is not even briefed in those matters.
She does not oversee or have any command authority at any time over any Guard assigned national defense or Homeland Security missions. She has no authority to assign them as she wants to military missions, nor authority to pull them for natural disaster or civil disturbance duty (where she does have domestic control – when the Feds free them from national assignments.)
strawman arguement. never said she commanded NG for national defense of homeland security. the default state for the NG is to be under the command of the governor. the president can usurp that when needed. and when not under federal duty, which is most of the time, the governor can call them up for duty.
governors time and time again have mobilized the national guards for emergencies.
see Jindal’s actions with the Louisiana’s NG during Gustav preparations.
“Today, I have officially issued a State of Emergency Declaration. In addition, we are requesting a pre-landfall Presidential declaration from the federal government. I have ordered the National Guard to activate 3,000 Guardsman, and they will report to their unit armories in the morning and prepare for deployment to affected areas, as needed,” said Jindal.
So where is all Obamas military experience? Or executive experience? Probably too busy writing autobiographies to actually do anything.
And by all means lets talk about odd religious backgrounds and ideas… I am pretty sure the right rich Reverand Wright friend of Farrakan has less to do with the Biblical Christianity than anyone at the AOG. And be sure and look up the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus endorsement of homosexual marriage – That from Obama personally… Check it out starts in Matthew 5. Do you good to search the scriptures but dont hold our breath while you are looking for that leap of faith.
BTW has anyone noticed that the vast majority of anti-Palin posters here are women? In fact I’m betting some of the anti-palin men are actually women? Its no wonder Hillary lost with over 50% of the registered democratic female voters NOT voting for a woman.
Hey here’s a big fat rumor for you. The rumor that NOW and Gloria Steinem represent women and that the only women’s issues are issues from the left. The TRUTH is the left does not and never owned women’s issues. Not every woman wants a drive thru at her favorite abortion clinic.
Also, is it true Trig planted the bombs in the world trade center? Cause I think Sarah was the second shooter in the grassy knoll next to Elvis and the space men.
Jeff:
howinsaneisjohnmccain.blogspot.com Oh yeah, that’s a real fair and balanced site name. No bias there. Gotta be chocked full of facts.
MAJOR OMISSION: Why did Sarah Palin have to hire a city administrator when she was mayor? That tells us that her so-called executive experience is a LOT less credible.
I guess your claim that she was going to have three media interviews on Sept. 6 wasn’t very accurate, was it? I see you updated the post with strike-thrus. I think you should update that section, too.
This proves that ANYONE can be President/VP of the US. Experience not required. If you are a good speaker or actor, go for it. People go for looks, personality and celebrity status. If Paris Hilton would run for it, lots of people would vote for her, maybe just for fun, but they would.
The US has been a banana republic politically for quite a while, but people overestimate it just because there are a lot scientific achievements that makes them think they are better than anyone. The achievers are just a fraction of the population, but everyone else takes credit for them just because they live here.
Politics is about control and the politicians are pretty smart about fooling most everyone. Smart people vote about position on issues that bring prosperity, peace, respect and order without waste.
Obama has a speech writer. Perhaps you should say ‘Obama writes SOME of his speeches’. That may be a little more accurate.”
Maybe he uses his senatorial one liner for speech writing. The speech writer looks at Obama and says ,”what say you Barrack,should we put political pressure on Pakistan to clean up the Taliban?” “Present,” is the reply. Then Barrack’s speech writes this rather cute message as words for Barrack to read. I was present when serious discussions were held on Pakistan’s involvement with the Taliban.
Since when have “all the Dems” been freaking out over Palin? There are jokes, and yes, most liberal leaning people are amazed that people fell for her nothing of a speech at the convention and don’t bother asking important questions. (The fact that the Bridge to nowhere money found itself very far down your list shows that even you don’t really want to talk about it. Because, you know, the money hasn’t been returned, only kind of renounced many months after the fact.) But really, this is about presidential candidates, not transparently get-you-talking veep choices.
And as for Another Laura’s comments: “We’ve come to this point because one side believes that the majority should rule and that doing for others is more important than doing for yourself; while the other side believes that no one should ever feel bad or ostracized for their behavior or choices and the government should be there as a giant pacifier.” The divide exists because of offensive comments like this. You’re making Conservatives seem saintly and Liberals seem anything but. If you chose words better and didn’t just aim at the jugular by condescending to everyone here who already agrees with you, we may all be better off.
I am so happy that someone is trying to “keep up and correct all the gossip on this lady.”
Heard one on Fox and Friends this morning, that Bob Beckel was expounding on, but I have not read it or heard it anywhere else.
That Gov. Palin charged per deim each day for living in her own house.
Please address this on your site.
Don’t believe, but would love to see what reaction you have
How about this one? “Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.” It is my understanding that Palin decided to stand on principle and resign from the good ol’ boys’ Oil and Gas Conservation Committee.
Does anyone know where I can get a “Read My Lipstick” bumper sticker or pin?
What troubles me most about the way the media (with exception of FOX) has jumped all over Sarah Palin and published gossip and unproven rumor literally non-stop since her nomination was announced is that these media tactics reminded me of the way Joseph Goebles convinced
Germany that Hitler was a good deal. The Nazi’s big brag was
that the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it. We are witnessing a character smear of monumental proportion in the Liberal Media attacks on Mrs. Palin. It really scares me that our once respected major networks ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, have now become the spokesmen for the Democratic Party (along with a host of newspapers,magazines) and are no longer considered to be serious news agencies by most thinking Americans. Reporting the news is one thing…propaganda and smear tactics is not reporting the news it is perverting it.
ashobs: “There are jokes, and yes, most liberal leaning people are amazed that people fell for her nothing of a speech at the convention and don’t bother asking important questions.”
And yet you don’t question Obama for the same reasons? Greek columns at his speech? He’s as much smoke and mirrors as anyone else. What exactly IS all that change? Do you even ask? As for being nice, why should anyone cater to a group like modern liberals who are so nasty, racist and intolerant that they cannot accept others for being different. Take a look at the phrase “global warming denier” for how arrogant the left is. All sorts of other groups get trashed by the left, not just conservatives. They alienate everyone. The fact NOW and Steinem claim only they hold women’s rights is clear evidence of this. Women can only be true women if they subscribe to a narrow and ignorant mindset of liberal dogma. The ONLY choice for women are the choices liberals want women to make.
Markus, I’ve been too busy to update the list; that’ll happen today. At the same time I’ll be reorganizing to be more like a FAQ page, as it’s going to be well over 80, I think. In the mean time, <a href=”http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_09_07-2008_09_13.shtml#1220936107″David Bernstein at Volokh has already looked at this one:
what the story ultimately reveals is that Palin (a) billed the state for most expenses allowed by law, including per diem when she stayed in her own home (her “duty station” was the state capitol of Juneau) in Wasilla; (b) didn’t bill the state for other expenses, when she could have done so lawfully, such as per diems for her children; and (c) spent a lot less money on expenses than did her predecessor, especially on travel and by ridding herself of the state’s personal chef. [FWIW, she apparently maintained two residences, the governor's mansion in Juneau, which by state law is her official work "base" and where assumedly she didn't get a per diem (but where her predecessor had a personal chef whom she let go), and Wasilla, from where she commuted to Anchorage for work when the legislature wasn't in session. Saintly to take the per diem she was legally entitled to when in the second residence? No. Worthy of the lead headline on Washingtonpost.com? Please! Not illegal, not unethical, and not a scandal.]
Charlie,
I am told that the $200 million she turned down for the bridge to no where was still given to the state in the form of a blank check. Is that correct?
Dave
The Palin truthers aren’t going to give it a rest, are they? Unbelievable. Let’s start talking about the grassy knoll and Area 51, and plausible stuff like that.
Joe Biden will be offering that he was also “present” during the 2008 Electoral campaign and be very upset that the voters voted “No” instead of “Absent.”
Yes, MSNBC etc., got away with Sexism and distortions of the truth regarding Hillary
but they have pushed their luck, NO more!
Did you catch CNN TV, Anderson Coopers misspeak on the 8th! He misrepresented the truth about Saras EBay plane sale! Leaving viewers with the impression that she had misled us! Much later he recanted and corrected his words but not all will hear that! CNN almost as one sided as MSNBC!
Quick point: it’s the book of Revelation, not “Book of Revelations”; “Book of” is not in its title. Most scholars disagree with the exegesis (interpretation) that extremists (like Palin’s pastor) try to apply to it. They apply a GI Joe-meets-Masters of the Universe fantasy to it that just isn’t in the text.
And I don’t know where you come off thinking that the Assemblies of God has such a degree of freedom in its pastors’ theological views. They might not spell out as much of their views as a group in some big “statement of faith,” but they do still force such specific views in an…unspoken manner. Those who disagree are basically thought of as “misguided by the devil” and other such bunk.
Seems from this side of the pond that there’s a lot of hot air blowing. But it does look unfortunate that Palin asks for her daughter’s privacy to be respected but shows her on TV with the boy friend. You can’t have your cake and eat it.!!!
“The boyfriend” Levi was flown down the day of Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech because of calumny and bashing and filth of a solid week from the (not so mainstream) media.
the rumour i heard goes as follows.
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Bristol and Track palin are the true parents of trig. The reason why he has down syndrome is due to inbreeding. Sarah, after finding out about the incest, signed her son up to ship him off to iraq.
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there is no depth to which these creatures will not plunge to kill the machine that is palin.
A picture on page 28 of this week’s Time Magazine with Sarah Palin on the cover, dated September 15, 2008, has a picture of a dead caribou, her and her daughter with the caption “Hunter-gatherer Admiring a caribou she shot, as her daughter looks on.”
I read your blog to confirm or debunk rumors, and by the third “yes”, realized that you are deep in Palin’s tank.
I suggest you address the lies she continues to spout in every one of her controlled appearances. Hints: Ebay, Thanks, but no thanks. They seem to be her big hitters, and both are as transparent as your blind support.
Give it up, Charlie; you’ll never get to hit that, not matter how much you fawn over it.
Jerry, you need to follow the links. If you think something needs to be corrected, let me have a source. But if you’d have continued reading, you’d have found out that you’re talking about #64 and #59 respectively. The eBay one, in particular, says “Yes, McCain is saying it wrong.”
On the WaPo story about the per diem, it appears that Palin was taking the per diem of about $55 to which she is legally entitled while she was away from her official residence in Juneau. It also appears Joe Biden is charging the travel expenses of up to $336 a trip, to which he is legally entitl;ed, for his Amtrack commute to Delaware.
On the rape-kit thing, it appears that the hospital in Wasilla is charging suspected victims health insurance for the ER visit. I believe this isn’t an unusual policy based on a vague recollection from when I was at Duke Hospital, but I haven’t got confirmation yet.
I’d like to thank an unnamed benefactor for registering the domain name “palinrumors.com” and making it available. For the foreseeable future, you will be able to reach this list in its most current version via http://palinrumors.com .
On the rape-kit story, that turns out to be the standard practice in, at least, North Carolina and Missouri.
I’ll also remind everyone that under the law you can’t be denied treatment in an ER for lack of insurance.
Good list. One amendment to it though… the point about Palin legally inhaling a couple of decades ago is about the same time Obama has admitted to in his book that he took harder illicit substances illegally.
Kristan Powers got it right. The Ultra Left of the democratic party that ridicules small town American values are making it easy for McCain/Palin. With the ultra left, such as Gloria Stienem & folks calling small town conservative Democrats & Church going folk being classed as Red necks and fools, they castigate the people the party needs the most. That rather astute observation my Kristin Powers is bang on.
Kristan Powers is a Democrat, who I find interesting for her intelligent defense of her Party over the years. I respect her even more for her taking her Party to task for their disrespect of the American voter that does have Faith and roots in Small town America. She understands the need to get support from mothers that have no time for Gloria Stienem politics. She noted that their working class families are being dissed by the Democrats when they make fun of rural America and the Red Neck ridicule that is found on this blog. Keep making fun of the conservative wing of your party and the folk in your party that do put their Faith in God and you will bury Obama so deep that a grizzly bear on steroids wouldn’t be able to dig him up.
Any attempts to disprove the following as a hoax have failed. It is the real thing. This was written by a woman who has known Sara Palin for years:
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.
She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because she is a ‘babe’.
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.
She is ‘pro-life’. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just ‘puts things out there’ and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.
Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
She’s smart.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a fiscal conservative. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state. In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the old boy’s club when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of ‘old boys’. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he intimidated her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the old boys’ club when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the bridge to nowhere after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as anti-pork.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her Sarah Barracuda because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as AGIA that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned as a private citizen against a state initiative that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.
There have to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.
However, there are a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.
CLAIM VS FACT
Hockey mom: true for a few years
PTA mom: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
NRA supporter: absolutely true
Social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconstitutional).
Pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
Pro-life: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
Experienced: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council.
Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
Political maverick: not at all
Gutsy: absolutely!
Open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
Has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
A Greenie: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
Fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
Pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
Pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
Pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
Pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that ‘Bad things happen when good people stay silent’. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my ‘about 5,000′, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90 s.
cheq: That would be #50, and the quote you’re using is ripped screaming from its context. But the LA Times reported:
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said the governor stands by her 2006 statement, supporting sex education that covers both abstinence and contraception.
Michael: Well, you rather look like a fool now, don’t you? Look, people, comment moderation at PJM is only there to keep people from posting malicious HTML and making denial of service attacks; I haven’t ever heard of a comment being modded off for content. But I see a lot of people making themselves look like idiots (yes, I’m talking to you Michael) by posting something — often something that proves they haven’t read the article, or aren’t actually responding to it, and yes, I’m talking to you again Michael, since you’re hitting #40 here — and then posting snide comments to the effect of “you won’t have the nerve to post this.”
This ain’t the Daily Kos, kids: PJM doesn’t kill posts because we think they’re wrong.
In any case, that would be the letter by her long time political opponent, who is saying things in her letter that don’t match was was reported contemporaneously. So I’ll have to say I don’t find her credible. However, there are plenty of links: an honestly interested reader will read them and decide for themselves.
And in the future, for God’s sake learn to make a link; this is about the eighteenth copy of the Kilkenney letter I’ve seen cut and pasted into someone’s comments.
Since being selected as John McCain’s running mate, Palin has faced questions over discussions she had with Wasilla’s librarian in 1996. In recent days, a bogus list of “banned books” has been widely circulated on the Internet.
But on its website, the city of Wasilla posted a statement asserting that no books at the library have ever been banned.
My biggest concern with McCain’s pick of Palin is that, with her tough no holds bar conservative stance, it will be very difficult to reform this hyperpartisanship that we are facing in Washington, as McCain claims that he wants to do. They will face many an opposition from the Left in Washington from the start on many an issues facing our country.
The other main fact is that Palin has never tackled on any problems inside of Washington so will be viewed by our Democratic controlled Congress with little experience, as McCain has always viewed with Obama. They will always have a mental note of the short time that she’ll be in Washington.
With Palin’s pick, we could be facing a more uphill battle in Washington than Obama’s pick of Biden. We don’t need internal battles in Washington, we need results!
Its refreshing to read an article that deals in facts & truths, rather than political hyperbole.
This woman is not the ogre they have portrayed her to be. She has had to deal with political rivals, just as Obama, Biden, McCain, and every other politician has had to. Yet we hear little about anyone asking these questions about those fellows, do we?
Could there be a significant bias because she does not believe in “abortion?” You bet.
Could the media help elect her & McCain because “fly over America’ is angry the elite have attacked an average America (OK, above average)? You can bet the bank on it.
Will McCain-Palin win?
Only on November 5, 2008 will anyone be able to answer this! But, attacking her has not resulted in a gain in the polls for Obama-Biden, has it?
? I know she is pro-life what about in the case of rape,incest, or danger to a mothers life
I thought I read those were her exceptions, but commentators keep saying even in those cases she’s against it. does any one know the truth. Thank’s
Jeff, I understand your point, but something I wish people would remember is that she’s running for VICE President. So, first of all you ought to look at McCain’s record, and he’s fairly infamous in R circles for not being supremely partisan. Palin is much the same in Alaska: she whupped the entrenched R machine and often needs to include D’s to get things she wants passed.
Ronni, my understanding is that she’s not happy with abortion for rape and incest, but accepts it if there’s a threat to the life of the mother. However, that’s not in any way official; I’ll keep pursuing a definite answer.
What I like more than Sarah’s views on things, is that she puts her money where her mouth is. If she says she is pro-life, she gives birth to a Down’s baby when 90% are aborted. If she says she’s going to cut excess spending she does so, even if it effects her. So even if I were to disagree with her on something, I would respect her point of view. She is a breath of fresh air a world full of politicians who play games.
No matter how you slice it, Obama’s comment of “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig” is once again a bullying, leftist wing-nut snide remark meant to insult either Sarah Palin, the Republican Party, or both. The audience’s reaction is confirmation enough for me that the message was exactly what it was meant to be–vicious, rude, and offensive. Since Obama fans claim that he writes his own speeches (and Sarah Palin doesn’t), I say keep up the good work, Obama, we Republicans appreciate the effect your speeches and nasty attitude are having on recent polls. You might have gained some points had you said, “You can put lipstick on an elephant, but it’s still an elephant.” Even I would have snickered at that one.
For years (and years !) we’re subjected to rationalizations for a sitting President, diddling an intern in The Peoples’ highest office, lying under oath, treating “morality” as if having hundreds of extramarital affairs was a walk in the park…
And along comes a funny, decent, interesting quick thinking individual willing (God knows why) to wade into the cesspool of the national political scene…
And she gets bashed with crapola almost beyond recognition.
..The witch-trial hysteria of the past two incendiary weeks unfortunately reveals a disturbing trend in the Democratic Party…Democrats are clinging to pat group opinions as if they were inflexible moral absolutes
The truth of it is that there is a law signed in 2000 that makes it illegal to charge the victims. Prior to that time, the Wasilla police attempted to charge the victim’s insurance company; the chief of police wanted to recover the cost from the criminal. As I noted above, this is consistent with the policy in most states I’ve been able to find information on.
Great post. The facts get so mired in all the noise it’s frustrating. However, you didn’t mention any of the following:
1) Yes, she was for the “Bridge to Nowhere” and didn’t denounce it until AFTER it was no longer politically or economically viable. And yes, she kept the money.
2) Yes, she was quite savvy in securing earmarks for both Wasilla and the state of Alaska. (Obama hasn’t asked for any earmarks this year. However, last year, he asked for $311 million worth of earmarks, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska has this year asked for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.)
Palin has, however, reduced the amount of earmarks Alaska has requested over time. Now, was it out of a need for reform? Apparently, not. It was more because the oil money pouring into Alaska and because earmarks, politically speaking, have become a much less viable strategy for garnering funds.
3) Yes, Palin is head of the Alaska National Guard, however, according to Craig E. Campbell, the adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, her authority is over the National Guard’s domestic missions — fighting wildfires, rescuing stranded residents, etc. but she has a limited role in determining how the forces are trained or equipped.” Or their deployment overseas, I believe.
Nick, Obamas lipstick on a pig comment wasnt insulting? Its just a metaphor right? No meaning? Fine. So what if someone said that the backtracking by the libtards, including Obama, was them trying to “polish a turd”? I’m not offended. Are you?
Over and over from Reverend Wright to Father Pflaeger to even now William Ayers, they are all saying,”Well it was taken out of context”. When you look at the context of what he said and what he said about the fish it is very clear he was referring to Palin and McCain. His lemming in the audience understood it. What else were the cheers and laughter for?
Actually, JB, that would be #59, #58, and #2 respectively. Did you read the article, or is this another drive-by cut&paste job?
cheq: reading comprehension seems to be an issue. She said she would oppose explicit programs. “Explicit” doesn’t mean “anything but abstinence only.” You can look it up.
No, she did not finally turn down the money for the bridge. That is simply false.
Arguably, she chose not to spend the money on the bridge (though equally arguably, (1) that decision was basically made for her and (2) it was made because Congress did not come through with even more money), but she did not turn it down — she allocated it to a road instead.
Hey nick: Whoa!!! Wait a minute. I got your insult, but your question is a bit ambiguous. Are you asking how Obama could possibly lower himself to insult a “pretty” woman with such a phrase, or are you asking how could a “pretty” woman be insulted by such a phrase? Interesting thought process. As you probably surmised, I am an avid Sarah Palin fan. There is no doubt Obama’s despicable pig/lipstick remark was aimed directly at Palin. Who says he’s not a hunter? Had Obama chosen an elephant for his insult, he could have spun it as an insult meant for the GOP and not exclusively for Sarah Palin. He hit his intended target, but she’s not going down, he is. She has the libs on the run, and it is quite amusing to watch them implode. The “Read My Lipstick” slogan is a good thing. Sarah Palin has single-handedly reunited the GOP, put a spark in John McCain (he looks 10 yrs younger), and is the voice of the silent majority. Go Sarah!!
Also – having a small Israeli flag in her office is not evidence either way re anti-Semitism. Certain types of Evangelical Zionists can be *very* anti-Semitic, and some would say potentially dangerous. I haven’t any idea what she thinks about Jews, but having a flag in her office says nothing about whether or not she is an anti-Semite — and is not enough to convince Jews who I know.
You would be on more solid ground pointing to her statement that she claims not to subscribe to the Jews for Jesus view that was preached at her church, and that there is no other direct evidence that she is anti-Semitic.
she said it was a task from God BEFORE
she uttered words “let pray”
she is the Lipstick Mccain is trying to put on his lousy record.
and for the poster who posted a list that nobody tried to refute
I repeat them here.
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Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, Lyda Green is a cancer survivor.
Yes, palins city went into debt for unncessary expediture
Yes she raised regressive city sales tax while reducing property taxes
Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” she said
She fired employee because he wuold not fire her Brother in law
Yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive;
Yes, she wants creationsim taught
Yes, she did smoke marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska. Yes, she apparently did inhale.
Yes, she likes Federal earmarks
Yes, Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was written by a speechwriter.
Obama writes his OWN speeches
Yes, she did put the governor’s plane on
Yes, Todd Palin did have a DUI. Drunk drivers are not caught every time
Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently does believe that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality.
Lenscrafter Model. The Democrats just don’t get it. When they pass out those type of insults diminishing a woman that was voted Governor of her State and after two years in office is still running with a 80% approval rating they are besmirching large segments of the people they need to get their candidate elected. Apple pie America will spurn those attacks upon people of Faith, conservative ideology but a part of the democratic party and the Democrats that value freedom to hunt , own guns and are stamped as dumb Red Necks by the Urbane Elite. Palin is a lot deeper then the pretense that she is nothing more then a model.
Sally, on the “Evangelical Zionist”, I think you might want to look up some of the big words, as what you’re saying doesn’t actually make any sense. “Zionism is an international political movement that regards the Jews as a national entity and seeks to preserve that entity.” (Wikipedia)
Nicatter, since that list is largely cut and pasted from my list above, I’m not quite clear what you’re trying to say. In any case, you seem to be perfectly happy to fret about Todd’s DUI 22 years ago. Are you equally concerned with Obama’s cocaine use 22 years ago? Biden’s plagiarisms? Al Gore III’s drug arrests?
If we’re going to demand of our political candidates not only that they be completely free of taint throughout their entire lives, and whats more that all their friends and associates be free of taint, the potential list of candidates is going to be awfully small, and no fun at parties.
Nine, I’m not getting your point. You seem to be angry that she supported something at one point, then changed her mind; are you saying you’d rather she take the earmarked money and then not changed her mind? Or are you mad that she she didn’t take the money? Or are you just mad?
You can NOT possibly believe that this woman is qualified to run the world if need be. Tell me you would sleep well at night. It is a TERRIFYING proposition.
I get it now. You guys must be the democrat lackeys. Now it is that she is the lipstick on McCains record? This is like the 15th different excuse now. Nick when you try to defend Obamas pig comment you arent helping your case much by calling any woman a “broad”. But I suppose I shouldnt be surprised that the only supporters Obama bin Biden has left are 12 year old little boys.
“Obama wrote into the night last weekend in a hotel room 15 minutes from his Chicago home. There were no distractions there. And in 2004 he had holed up at a hotel to draft the wildly successful convention speech that catapulted him into national politics.”
Keep in mind, technically, had I meant it this way, [Palin] would be the lipstick. The failed policies of John McCain would be the pig, just following the logic of this illogical situation.”
You left out the claim that Palin was Mayor only two years ago (made by the Obama campaign and others) She actually left office some years before.
The reasson may be to hide her period on the Oil and Gas Commission and her subsequent resignation. This looks like it might have been what first really gave her a reputation as a reformer. (or maybe it ws theer already when she ran for Lt. Gov in 2002 and lost)
Although I’m a bit short on details, I thought I’d pass along a rumor my wife hear at work the other day. It was something about Cindy McCain spending some fantastic amount of money on an outfit (dress, shoes, jewelry, etc.)… something to the tune of $250,000??? Her coworker compared this to someone who only spent $150? (Perhaps this was Michelle Obama?) My wife is very outnumbered at work and doesn’t like getting into debates. Hence, the sketchy details. However, it may be worth investigating.
Sammy, I agree, I’ll strengthen that. In general, there seems to have been a strategy to denigrate or ignore her time as Governor, eg, with Obama calling her a small-town mayor, and Biden calling her LIEUTENANT Governor.
I generally agree with Heinlein’s Razor — “stupidity over malice” — but in these things it seems to require a *lot* of stupidity.
Calling it a “$250,000 outfit” sounds just a little bit disingenuous. I’ll bet anything those earrings aren’t purchased just for that one outfit that one night.
Jed, you asked about MSNBC’s slander of a female dejure – Cindy McCain spending some fantastic amount of money on an outfit (dress, shoes, jewelry, etc.)… something to the tune of $250,000 -
Well it is the sorta true that MSNBC Keith and Matthews specialize in – she was seen in public with the family earlings – diamonds – that are worth near $300,000. The rest of the outfit was the standard ware of the well to do – Shoes in the high hundreds, dress a couple of thousand.
But $250,000 – or $300,000 – makes a much better headline.
Would anyone like to make a friendly bet that since the dems are losing some Hillary supporters to McCain and Palin that they might try to change their VP nomination (if they can–well, even if they can’t) to Hillary instead of genius Joe? Biden recently made a heart-warming speech in which he stated that Senator Clinton would be a fantastic VP and would do a wonderful job…maybe even better than he could do. Sounds a bit like setting the stage to me. If it is possible and it comes to pass, it would be yet another example of poor judgment and the wrong choice by Obama. Even if you believe that the pig/lipstick comment was not directed at Sarah Palin, you must admit Obama used poor judgment in his choice of words, especially in light of Palin’s recent use of the lipstick joke (and quite effectively, I might add) at the RNC. If Obama discards Biden from the presidential ticket, ooops, might that be yet another fine example of Obama’s poor judgment? I’m sure the libs are seriously brainstorming the idea–they can only hope the ballots haven’t been printed yet. Whether or not something like this could ever happen, the fact remains that you don’t always get a second chance to get it right when dealing with world leaders, terrorists, and all the serious issues where poor judgment and/or the wrong decision may have catastrophic consequences. This is true for both democrats and republicans, but it would appear that John McCain’s decisions and choices have been right on target, including his choice of Sarah Palin for VP.
Hey nick–After reading your contributions to this discussion, you may well be the poster child for the leftest wing-nuts. In one of your arguments, you stated, “If I called Charlize Thereon a pig, people know that it is not meant she is a pig.” You have just summed up the liberal mantra in a nutshell. Just because I say something, doesn’t mean I meant it or that it’s the truth. It’s up to others to use their crystal ball and figure it out. Now I know why libs don’t want to be confused with the facts. They refuse to recognize facts as truths. Maybe it’s more fun or convenient to live in a delusional world than to face what’s really real.
Do you suppose you could provide a link? The story you quoted from appears to say that’s how he drafted the speech some days before it was delivered. Unless you’re telling me that he has all those ppseechwriters and doesn’t use them, I’m guessing that he defined what he wanted to say and they worked it over.
Anyone catch Matt Damon’s remarks wondering if Palin believes that man walked with the Dinosaurs, in an attempt to smear her Religious beliefs.. Great way to hold onto the conservative Religious vote, Matt!!!
Matt Damon Quote “I need to know if she really thinks dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago. That’s an important — I want to know that, I really do, because she’s going to have the nuclear codes. You know, I want to know if she thinks dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago… we can’t, we can’t have that.”
He has the political awareness of Fuffy the possum, at a fur trade show, wondering how much his pelt is worth, while Kitt Carson is lining up his smoke stick on Fluffy’s forehead. The off the cuff elitists that speak for the Democrats , are so far out in left field they haven’t a clue what is happening in CENTER field. Those Democrat spokespersons are so full of themselves, that they haven’t a clue how they dissed all those Christians, Jews and Muslim voters by such ridicule and are now moving to McCain/Palin ticket.
Then another emotional knee jerk elitist (in her own mind) Joy Behr knocking Palin for hunting and how Palin, is cruel for doing so. The hypocrite never figured out her and 97% of the general population eat dead animals. I suppose she would rather the other cruel death regiments in nature take over such as starvation, contagion and winter kill from having to many animals. Send her a memo that man is the only animal control in nature that seeks HUMANE deaths for animals.
Mccain praised Senator Obama for his “outstanding” work as a community organiser – a profession derided by Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin at the Republican convention in St Paul last week.
Poor Nick. It isn’t a castigation of community services that they are pointing out when they mention it. It is the fact that a State Organizer is being ridiculed by a community organizer that works with dis-organizers like Bill Ayers that is the stumbling block. You seem to have a very hard time to put things together. BTW, the State Organizer did more then state “PRESENT” when ever important Legislation was before her.
her creationist stand is sign of a MORON
and KOOK,”
You poor Soul. You have the debating skills of a Do Do Bird and are totally unaware of how badly you hurt your cause by ridiculing,Jews, Christians, Native Americans and Muslims that do believe in “God the Creator.”
In fact this is what one of today’s leading Scientists thinks of your claim.
You lose by the way because this guy isn’t a kook nor were many of the faith based Scientist. This guy was a obnoxious atheist by his own words but unlocking the Human Genome from his LEAD SCIENTIST position on research into the Human Genome, has made a believer out of him.
And another look at why he realized the intricate weaving of life & the support we need are deeper then mere random evolution.
Science and religion have long had an uneasy relationship, at best. But Dr. Francis S. Collins believes the two can coexist happily and that a scientist can worship God equally well in a cathedral or a laboratory.
Dr. Francis S. Collins, who led the Human Genome Project,…Cover of “The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence…
BTW, cave drawings and museums are filled with pre-historic imagery of man walking the planet with ???????? Dinosaurs.
Neither you nor Matt Damon are politically aware of just how ridiculing Faith based Creations/hunters/gun owners/Red Necks and small town America is destroying the middle base of the Democrats. According to the Democrats they are supposed to be the party of free choice in all aspects of life unless of course you believe differently then their left wing elitists think and then they will marginalize you by calling you are moron and a kook and offering legislation to strip the kook’s rights away.
Moderator please post this one, I hit the enter button while trying to proof the last one.
“Jed:
First of all, great work on this, Charlie.
Although I’m a bit short on details, I thought I’d pass along a rumor my wife hear at work the other day. It was something about Cindy McCain spending some fantastic amount of money on an outfit (dress, shoes, jewelry, etc.)… something to the tune of $250,000??? Her coworker compared this to someone who only spent $150? (Perhaps this was Michelle Obama?) My wife is very outnumbered at work and does’t like getting into debates. Hence, the sketchy details. However, it may be worth investigating.” Sep 11, 2008 – 1:14 pm
I say BIG DEAL!
Listen it’s not your money or my money, it’s hers.
Worry more about those who want to spend your money and mine for us. McCain is for line item vetoes and the end to “tag on spending” that is put on bills pushed through the house and the senate, (ear marks.) Obama wants more government spending. Sorry but that is money I worked hard fore and earned honestly.
And how dare anybody criticize Cindy about spending some of her own money on herself. Don’t you know anything about this woman??? She is one the most charitable people in America, not only with her money, but also her time.
I just love the videos of her in third world countries showing her in jeans and t-shirts. She has been generous and caring way before the political stage. Her caring is real and comes from her heart.
Obama wants to take money from others to give to those who don’t have it. Check into how much of his own money he gave to charity before it became politically expedient for him to do so. Ask his half bother who lives on a dollar a month how charitable he is.
One example of his charity: He got a lot of TAX money, (translated your money and mine,) for the hospital his wife works at, (as an administrator,) and her salary jumped from $100,000.00 to $300,000.00 within a month. How charitable!
Learn about Cindy McCain’s charity, and see for yourself how she is likely to spend her years in the white house.
If we get McCain the White house, we get two very special ladies in there with him, and…
we defeat the messiah of socialism.
Enjoy you day and spend your own money, and let other people spend theirs, while you MYOB.
First of all, please understand, I’m on the same page with you. I was looking for the truth about this claim and I wasn’t trying to be critical of the McCains. There’s no doubt Cindy McCain (or anyone else) can spend her money how she chooses. Simply, if I’ve heard this rumor, perhaps others would have the same question. Granted, it wasn’t a Palin rumor, but a rumor just the same.
My wife is one of the few McCain supporters at her work. Her coworker had made this claim in order to slam McCain. (ie, he’s too rich to be a good president) I simply wanted to know if anyone knew the real story and pass this along to my wife.
Nick, thanks for demonstrating to the readers that comments, no matter how stupid or illiterate, generally aren’t moderated off PJM.
Jed, I didn’t take you to be attacking Cindy, and I apologize for making it seem so.
What I can’t figure out is the $250,000 part. I’m beginning to suspect that they are $25,000 ear rings — that’s more or less consisten with the “three carat” part — and someone added a zero.
Nickie dearest. You miss the point. The Lead Scientist believes God created life and some evolution took place after the fact. You weren’t fortunate enough to get the required evolutionary program to raise your level of reading comprehension and cognition.
That aside , Mat Damon, Nickie Dearest and the others that are so vehement against Palins, Apple Pie American lifestyle are alienating the conservative , 2nd amendment supportive , Blue collar workers, ridiculed Red Necks and Christians, within the political process.
I was thinking of the co-worker. I am sorry if I lam-blasted to generally. It made me mad.
Just a few short years ago, I lived in below poverty conditions in order to invest every penny possible in my husband’s business, which we started from the ground up. After eight years of living that way, most of our business debt is paid off and we have built our dream home. Last year we had a household income of $200K. We went from just $8k to $200K in less than ten years. After 8 years in a single-wide trailer I now live in a my dream house.
I am shocked at the jealously and hatred I am experiencing from people. People who know us are happy for us. They see how we share our good fortune and blessings, but strangers can be so mean.
I shopped for many years at the thrift stores, and I will not tolerate people judge me on how I spend my money now.
Cindy’s father started from the ground up. This is America. Hard work and sacrifice has enable this family to obtain the American dream. Cindy was fortunate to be born into the family and is generous with her money and time both. She personally has volunteered her time in over 55 two week long missions in third world conditions.
Let’s see this co-worker and Nick obtain the American dream, and see what they do with the money. No fancy clothes or CARS right? If this co-worker had the financial stability that Cindy has and was going to appear before millions of people live on stage and TV, wouldn’t he/she love to be able to find the just right outfit and even have to ask the price before saying, “I take it.”
It is jealousy pure and simple. Let these “rich” people spend their own money on clothes, homes, and hair cuts. If they want to appear foolish and leave millions in their will for their dog, (Oprah,) let them. Be happy for them!
The jealous people just need to get over it and go about making the American dream happen for themselves.
Just so they aren’t to disappointed when they reach it, stand warned: Between federal income tax, social security tax and medicare, (business owners pay twice as much,) state tax, local privilege taxes, sales tax, and property tax- half our household income is spent each year on taxes. Let the dems raise taxes further, and striving for the American dream will be a waist of time.
Hey nick: This one’s for you, my poor misguided venom-spewing, radical, leftist poster-child wing-nut. Are you a gambling man? Would you or anyone else like to make a friendly wager that since the dems are losing some Hillary supporters to McCain and Palin that they might try to change their VP nomination (if they can; well, even if they can’t) to Hillary instead of genius Joe? Biden recently made a heart-warming speech in which he stated that Senator Clinton would be a fantastic VP and would do a wonderful job…maybe even better than he could do. Sounds a bit like setting the stage to me. If it is possible and it comes to pass, it would be yet another example of poor judgment and the wrong choice by Obama. Even if you believe that the pig/lipstick comment was not directed at Sarah Palin, you must admit Obama used poor judgment in his choice of words, especially in light of Palin’s recent use of the lipstick joke (and quite effectively, I might add) at the RNC. If Obama discards Biden from the presidential ticket, ooops, might that be yet another fine example of Obama’s poor judgment? I’m sure the libs are seriously brainstorming the idea–they can only hope the ballots haven’t been printed yet. Whether or not something like this could ever happen, the fact remains that you don’t always get a second chance to get it right when dealing with world leaders, terrorists, and all the serious issues where poor judgment and/or the wrong decision may have catastrophic consequences. This is true for both democrats and republicans, but it would appear that John McCain’s decisions and choices have been right on target, including his choice of Sarah Palin for VP.
I for one, have had my fill of the pig and the lipstick phenomena, but I must ask you, nick, about one of your riveting arguments in which you stated, “If I called Charlize Thereon a pig, people know that it is not meant she is a pig.” You have just summed up the liberal mantra in a nutshell. Just because I say something, doesn’t mean I meant it or that it’s the truth. It’s up to others to use their crystal ball and figure it out. Now I know why libs don’t want to be confused with the facts. They refuse to recognize facts as truths. Maybe it’s more fun or more convenient to live in the gray area of a delusional world than to face what’s really real.
I also think you summed it up beautifully when you said in one of your more astute comments of Sept 10, 2008, that “…because they knew her lipstick joke and they knew he was able to use libstick in an OLD saying! you fricking morons.” Good one, nick, libstick is a great subliminal slip of the fingers, but I think it’s spelled libshtick, meaning an entertaining slapstick routine by the far-left wing-nut circus clowns.
we dont want racist rednext creationist voting for Obama, (well yes we do, but know winning lotto is easier) we are showing the rest of the world what kind of racist PIGS with lipstick, you all are.
McCain has no clue, with family history. senate salary, NAVY salary, oh and wifes millions he has no concept of how middle class lives. he thinks Obamas house at 1.2 million is pretty lame .
Charlie,
Thank you so much for your list. I am stuck here at work until 6am, and I have enjoyed passing some time by reading all about the Palin rumors.
The comments have been a hoot! I am 50 years old, and I haven’t heard the word MORON used this much since grammar school. It reminds me why I don’t usually post in forums- I hate name calling!
Here you go Reality Check. Your reading comprehension missed the most important portion of his claim which coincides with My input.
Francis Collins felt God was the Creator who used evolution as a means of continuing His creation. From your own link.
Francis Collins::: “I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don’t see why that’s such a bad idea. That’s pretty amazingly creative on His part. And what is wrong with that as a way of putting together in a synthetic way the view of God who is interested in creating a group of individuals that He can have fellowship with — us? Why is evolution not an appropriate way to get to that goal? I don’t see a problem with that.
So in Collins mind God is the Creator using evolution to be a part of His Creation.
Actually his own words describe a creator that is using evolution to develop His Creation. Maybe you didn’t quite get a grasp of the whole article because you didn’t read it all.
Francis Collins::: “I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don’t see why that’s such a bad idea. That’s pretty amazingly creative on His part. And what is wrong with that as a way of putting together in a synthetic way the view of God who is interested in creating a group of individuals that He can have fellowship with — us? Why is evolution not an appropriate way to get to that goal? I don’t see a problem with that.
So in Collins mind God is the Creator using evolution to be a part of His Creation.
Gee Reality ,maybe Collins wasn’t part of their ideology because he believes that God created but evolution was a major portion of His creation, whereas,Walt Ruloff, they believe evolution played a lesser portion in His Creation. None of that negates that Both Groups, think He is the CREATOR.
Charles: You must love Palin, because all you do is apologise for her. She is by far the biggest pile of crap replacement for the biggest pile of crap this country has ever seen in office.
lol…
Palin may not be the first or only person ever to do all that stuff even you admit she’s done, but that does not make it ok. Our leaders should not be average, but extraordinary. She is NOT extraordinary at all. She’s just different in appearance than the usual fare…period…
I don’t want a tattooed, shotgun married, AK47 totin, BOUNTY ON WOLF FOREARMS SETTING,Polar bear and woman hating (rape victims pay for own rape kits until STATE created legislation against it based on her behavior as the mayor of WAsilla),money grubbing, can’t set proper example for daughter, “wide eyed liberal”/alcohol sodden driver loser husband having, son going into the military to escape legal charges having, TWITCHY LEFT EYE being bitch in the white house. She can’t run her own family for God’s sake. She’ll destroy this country…heck, she could be in the midst of post partum psychosis for all we know…that would explain a LOT.
Hey annje–Congratulations! You are yet another perfect candidate for the leftist wing-nut poster child. A+ for Diatribe; F- for Factual. It’s frightening to think people like you may determine our next president.
Annje: “She can’t run her own family for God’s sake. She’ll destroy this country…heck, she could be in the midst of post partum psychosis for all we know…that would explain a LOT.”
Neither Hillery nor Bill could control his compulsive deceits in his marriage. Even Monica Lewinzky dress hasn’t deterred Democrats from defending both of them while attacking a 17 year old girl for her transgressions. Mighty strange. Does anyone believe that Bristol didn’t have the desire and smarts to hide her sexual activities from her mom. Hell I hid my sex drive from both my parents and I doubt that many North American parents could tell a much different story then myself or Bristol Palin. Spare the self righteous indignation because most North American’s can thank their lucky stars that they escaped the eagle eye of the Political hacks though they carried out the same activity as Bristol Palin. I think the big story is that both Palin parents despite the timing which couldn’t be worse for their family, have supported their daughter with unconditional love.
What red-blooded real American man wouldn’t like Sarah Palin? Only those who are wimps and possibly closeted homos. She’s smart, good looking, down to earth, has a great figure, can look you in the eye and tell you something you don’t necessarily want to hear (how many of you have imagined her as your teacher or mom telling you to go to the corner or else…???hmmm???), and let’s face it, she’s a MILF. God, if only she was running with Ron Paul, what a ticket that would be. As it is, I am going to vote for her and what’s his name.LOL Joking. McCain has his agendas, true enough, but I think the more I learn about him the better I understand him. Yes, I know a lot of it is put on and propaganda and sleight of hand tactics on the multitudes, but there is some depth to him. I don’t care for Obama for many reasons, but will not name call or anything, I just simply will not vote for him. Besides, as if it really matters who we want in the WH. All that matters is who the true powers that be want in the Oval office. Don’t kid yourself into believing that what we, the people, really want or who we want in the WH.
i guess you and your fox interns do their research … though i still believe that she eats other peoples babies although she does not digest them, she purges. then evil witches fly right out of her head,with the the help of an African priest. she’s perfect for the job. i always vote for the naughty librarian,i’ll spend money without regard party.
Heya i am for the primary time here. I came across this board and I in finding It truly useful & it helped me out a lot. I’m hoping to offer one thing again and help others such as you helped me.
There are certainly a whole lot of particulars like that to take into consideration. That may be a nice level to convey up. I supply the thoughts above as normal inspiration but clearly there are questions just like the one you convey up where a very powerful thing will probably be working in sincere good faith. I don?t know if greatest practices have emerged around things like that, but I’m certain that your job is clearly identified as a fair game. Each boys and girls feel the impact of just a moment’s pleasure, for the rest of their lives.
Yeah, I hear you, but is it true that she eats babies? I heard it on Digg.
Baby seals.
Nothing on the bridge to nowhere flip and the fact that she’s against earmarks now, but she begged for them before?
Yes, it’s true. No, Republicans are not always consistent.
Thanks for linking to me on the Big Dipper tattoo.
Note that I’ve put up my own Palin conspiracy page:
http://www.halfsigma.com/the-sarah-palin-conspirac.html
I think of Obama.
Then, I think of Palin.
I don’t know “why,” but the movie short
BAMBI MEETS GODZILLA
just seems to come to mind.
heh.
In her defense, she only eats OTHER people’s babies.
“HOW DARE her(Palin) take her son out at night without socks on !!!”–TNR, Michelle Cottle
I heard she actually invented Glenn Reynolds’ patented Puppy Blender, though she mixed in fruit and flax seed and ice cream, so you can expect the McCain kool-aid drinkers to deny it by pointing out that they were technically puppy smoothies, not straight blended puppies…
Maybe it’s just me, but if any of the rumours above were true, they would be no big deal (I mean the “sensible” rumours).
If this is all they (think) they have, the Dems are toasted toasty toast with butter and jam…
[...] *No, she’s never been in any porn as far as anyone can find (and God knows I get enough Google hits on those very topics.) I would think the Big Dipper tattoo would be a giveaway.
* No, no one seems to be able to even find swimsuit pictures of her from her beauty queen days; God knows I looked. The bikini pictures that are around are photoshopped, just like the Vogue cover I have up. [...]
While enthused by Palin’s presence which has irreversibly turned McCain’s campaign in a clear winner, I’ll take the liberty to complement the above two points from the list of rumors with a funny description of her I got in The Daily Telegraphs (???):
“[...] with her beehive hair arrangement and retro spectacles, she’s got a bit of a naughty librarian air [...]” (slightly on Bettie Page line – my addition).
I like & I vote for naughty librarians and I urge everyone to do so.
Why is it libertarian to think gays can’t repent? Don’t libertarians believe in human freedom?
Super Charlie. Great job!
Yes, she believes kids should learn about condom use in schools.
I’m not sure even the most liberal member of the senate would be in favor of learning about condom use in schools
What do they do in school in Alaska? This is just shocking …
Obviously, you meant, “learn in school about condom use.”
Sorry. I couldn’t resist. I make these kinds of editing errors all the time.
Thanks for your blog work. I’m watching Fox right now and saw your story.
YAY, Charlie! Just saw you on Fox News. THANK YOU — she deserves REAL TRUTH. Bookmarked your site & passing it on to our network!
God bless
Love the site and your comments. Keep it going.
In the spirit of the “Inside the OODA loop” methods of the McCain-Palin campaign and the “Army of Davids” function of the blogosphere, I’ve created a list of preemptive Palin rumor dismissals here: http://www.moderaterisk.net/2008/09/dismiss_a_sarah_palin_smear_fi.php
I watcged you on Fix this morning and here I am checking your blog. great job, I like the sarcastic tone too
to the radical dems, “Don’t let your karma, run over your Dogma!
ok, ‘watched’ not ‘watcged’ and ‘Fox’ not ‘Fix’
am not that good at multitasking 
I am checking the links to your posting at the same time 
Imagine hhow insignificant she is that the Obama machine is sending 30 lawyers to Alaska
to see what dirt they can dig up.. And Obama asked to be on O’Reilly during the Republican convention to try to upstage Ha
Thanks, everyone. Boris, you might try, like, actually READING the list? The bridge thing is #59.
All you idiots running, Sarah Palin down are stupied and crazy..Why doen’t you all clean your own backyard. Big deal! Bristol is NOT the first nor the last to get pregnaut out of wedlock! Take a look at all the movie stars at least Bristol does NOT do dope, like HALF of those so called so “called singers and movie stars” Someone should “DIG DIG DIG” on BLUE LIP MOLE FACE OBAMA REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE that one showing on the computer is as phony as is.. some should go talk to his brother in Africa,,THAT LIVES ON 1 DOLLAR A MONTH to tell the REAL STORY..REPORTERS PAY HIM..while his Bro Obama live in a million dollar home..John Kennedy and Jackie they will NEVER be thats an insult to John and Jackie..no matter I much Michelle straightens for speeches..
Thanks, Charlie! This country NEEDS people like you! I also caught you this morning on FOX.
Oh, looks like this has brought Explorations to its knees again; the backup site is sarahpalinrumors.blogspot.com.
was there any connection between Palin and the 527 fund to help indicted senator Ted Stevens?
The latest info on Palin came from a friend. Something about her selling the private jet on ebay Palin discussed at the RNC. My Dem friends say the she did not sell it on ebay and eventually sold it for less than it was worth. I would love to make them eat their words and tell them that the money from the sale of the jet went back to the people of Alaska…or at the very least make them realize that in selling the jet she was showing that she not only talks the talk about
less Government spending, she walks the walk. Please help me get some facts to tame these dem dogs-they are all over her like a pack of wild things and I’m SICK of hearing the barking and snarling!
Thanks, Laura
I saw you on Fox News… Great job! The lib’ are a nervous wreck now.
When it comes down to actually being in the voting booth, a huge amount of voters will take the safe route and pick the “McCain/Palin” ticket for the USA. Keep up the Straight Talk to keep the lies from being believed by people who do not research what they hear!!!!
Great job! Thanks. Finally someone is getting the real info out! She’s not perfect but she’s not the monster the networks (except FOX) are making her out to be.
If I missed this in your extensive rumor busting, oopsie, but this is another very hot, seemingly erroneous topic circulating the Internet right now..
According to a (fellow) disability advocacy resource I cross cyber paths with and trust, no, Sarah did not cut special education funding.. It was instead redirected into other related buckets and in fact looks like it was (possibly) increased..
Please see:
* Bloggers, Media Allege Palin Slashed Special Ed Funds, Data Says Otherwise; jfactivist.typepad.com
Yes, the wolf hunting deal is reprehensible, but likewise is certain parties who once screamed foul over purported lies about themselves now consciously wildfiring their own about the competition..
Warmest from North Georgia..
I saw you on Fox News this morning also. Thanks for posting all this info debunking the rumors and affirming the truths.
Saw you a little while ago on Fox News. Thanks for the piece on Palin Fact vs Palin Fiction. The libs have stooped to some all time lows going after this woman and still they’ve come up with nothing of substance. Palin has re-energized the silent majority hopefully enough so that they will find their voices once and for all in November. There is no room in America for the likes of “bama” and his socialist cronies.
Not that it matters, but if Palins conceived on their wedding night, Track would have been only 4 weeks, 5 days early (from date of conception gestation is 38 weeks). Considering that Trig came a month early, it’s not a far-fetched proposition at all.
We don’t know and don’t need to know, but those saying that Track had to be 2 months early are screwing up their medical facts.
Laura, that’s #64. The “she lied” thing requires a peculiar definition of “lied” but McCain did say it wrong.
Mark, thanks, I’ll add that one once I an get to my server again. The short answer is that she was once on the board of the Ted Stevens GOP PAC — which predates his current legal issues — but she has been supporting his challenger in the primary, and he (the challenger) may yet win.
Great, entertaining post, Charlie.
I’d add a few minor details:
1. The Big Dipper tattoo on her ankle is the display on the Alaska State Flag. Which is drawn 5-pointed stars representing the Big Dipper and North Star in correct celestial display.
Can’t think of a more “appropriate” visible tattoo to have on the Alaskan Governor. I will leave the urgent need to know what other hidden tattoos, if any, Palin has to the MILF fans.
2. While her Guard commander likes the cut of her jibe as CiC, so to speak…he confirmed that in a year and a half, she made no decision affecting the Guard as the CiC.
She will make a fine VP. She is beautiful inside and out, a true champion of women eveywhere. She’s the anti-Hillary candidate. Once McCain wins which could be a landslide I think people will be surprised how well she does and how fast she learns. They will surround her with good people, not neo-cons. McCain will kick the neo-cons to the curb. I’m so sick and tired of liberals, male and female beating her up. As long as they keep doing it, her approval ratings will go up. Society doesn’t want to see any women, be they liberal or conservative being beat up. Look at how MSNBC savaged Hillary. It won’t work doing it to Palin. Obama is a media creation and the average person is starting to pay attention now.
I think all this hype is because the Dems are afraid, very afraid, of Sarah Palin.
Actually, its Book of RevelatioN. Singular.
Just caught you on Fox News…loved it! I was laughing my behind off at this list. I know the rumor mill is churning in blogosphere and the MSM but I had NO IDEA it was this bad. That says to me that they’re running scared of Sarah Barracuda!!
Many women judge Gov. Palin by their own limitations.
Sarah Palin on congressional earmarks:
Saw you on Fox this morning.. I think this is great! Keep it up!
P.S. Has anyone noticed how when Obama was criticized by someones those someones were called racists, but when Sarah’s criticized it’s not sex discrimination it’s good journalism? Just curious…
Great Job!
Why is America obsessed with Troopergate but unconcerned about Obama’s ties to Rezko or William Ayers? Or the Annenburg paper? We are obsessed with finding out that Todd Palin had a DUI 22 years ago- but we care nothing about the fact that 22 years ago Barack Obama was an ADMITTED drug user. Palin may have changed her mind on a few issues, but the ones she did change her mind on benefited the people of Alaska. Barack Obama has flip flopped on almost every issue in this election and when he has done so it has been to benefit himself. Press making a huge deal about Palin attending 6 colleges- but have not bothered published to the fact that Obama got into Harvard on a favor from a dangerous Saudi man. They are questioning Palin’s qualifications but have never questioned Obama’s short time in the State Legislature, or the fact that he has spent over 2 years of his 3 year term in the Senate running for President. Additionally, they are completely ignoring the fact that his community organizing was done for AKORN- which is an organization that trains young people to get involved in the political process by cheating. The news today is that Palin cheated in the college beauty contests- but the press never uttered a single word about how the DNC rigged the entire primary and convention to ensure that Obama won the nomination. The media just disgusts me, and I think the American people need to take our country back.
Way to bury the lead, Charlie. And the earmark thing is number?
Hi Charlie, thanks for this article. Good going making it on FOX news (my favorite) and Lucyianne.com.
The official website of the city of Wasilla (just google the town) has an interesting post on the history of “book-burning” in that town. It appears that any citizen of the town can object to a book in the library. They report four such complaints since 1980 (none, apparently, during Sarah Palin’s tenure). Three of the cited books were kept, one was move to a section that was inaccessible to children. None was burned.
Hi Charlie … Great list. I would caution however to avoid language in your list that looks sarcastic or partisan. People will dismiss your fine research as biased. Go through your list and purge the editorial comments. Just make this about facts.
If we really want to stand up to the smears we ALL have to be very careful about our language.
The tone of our debate has to change because so many on the other side are saying disgusting things. The only way to stand out favorably is to present facts dispassionately (without opinion).
The truth will win out.
James, as I’ve said, I’m a Buddhist; I’m not expert. Thanks, i’ll fix it when I can get to my site again
Cindy, you’re right (#38). She only increased it by 175 percent instead of what someone else request. This is the special DC meaning of “cut”.
Loved you on Fox. There are lots of other “facts” floating around out there. I disproved some I received in a ranting e-mail; if you want to send me your e-mail I’ll send my research to you. Meanwhile, keep up the good work. The latest is that she cheated in the Miss Wasilla contest. Have you found anything about that?
Great stuff, but I’d like to see more of it! Love Palin but my liberal friends keep sending me this article:
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.
In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal —loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary [presumably because it was not high enough]. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects — which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance —but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President [for a first term]; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.
There [have] to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.
However, there [are] a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.
CLAIM VS FACT
• “Hockey mom”: true for a few years
• “PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
• “NRA supporter”: absolutely true
• social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
• pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
• “Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
• “Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
• No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
• political maverick: not at all
• gutsy: absolutely!
• open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
• has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
• “a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
• fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
• pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
• pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
• pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
• pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90′s.
Anne Kilkenny
I have begun just giving the lefties a number and a link to Charlie’s blog to refer to when they paste the latest Palin rumor. Hey, conservation of energy isn’t just good, it’s the LAW.
I’ve heard a number of people assert — without evidence of course — that Palin is opposed to contraception (beyond teaching about condoms in school), and not just for herself (if she is). It would be nice to see a rebuttal to that rumor.
Regarding being pregnant with Track before being married, as one comment said he could have been 4 weeks and five days early with a wedding night conception.
Also, consider that most if not all women would not know they were pregnant until after a missed period, it is likely that Sarah and Todd would not be aware of a pregnancy prior to their wedding (at least certainly the wedding plans were in place prior to conception).
Jo-An, you can reach me via PJM, or you can comment on either blog, or here if you like. Janine (if that’s Janine Turner, call me; I’ve been crushing on you since Northern Exposure
) that’s Anne Kilkenny’s email that’s been distributed pretty widely. She’s also the one pushing the bookburning thing. She turns out to be someone who was on the losing side in several elections Palin won; a lot of what she says isn’t supported by contemporaneous accounts.
The best thing to come out of all the “Sarah rumors” was the total meltdown of MSNBC. Just cracks me up!!! The Dems (socialists) are their own worst enemy.
Thanks Charlie!!!
IT should be clear that I believe her take on congressional earmarks as a state governor is very responsible.
Palin12
If Sarah’s husband is a Yup’ik, then like all ‘indigenous peoples’ in North America, would he not have a perfectly legitimate reason for supporting the independence of his native homeland? When the elitist members of the media SS go after supporters of the American Indian Movement with equal vigor…then they can be snarky about Todd Palin.
Re: Sarah’s religious convictions. She asked the audience to pray “that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.” This attitude is clearly evidence of someone who wants to make sure that our reasons for going to war are legitimate ones. I’d think the left would support and encourage this attitude.
Anne Kilkenny I get the feeling you’re a tad jealous of Ms. Palin. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. My bet is you’re in league with Obama. Perhaps if you would identify yourself as a liberal or a democrat you might find more people agreeing with your assessment. You sound vindictive and quite envious of Ms. Palin’s success. You sound bitter to me. What you should do is take that bitterness and employ it in a campaign for State wide office. Instead of running on your record or your ideas you could focus your entire campaign attacking Ms. Palin. What I would do is get a cut out life size poster of Ms. Palin and take it everywhere you go while campaigning. Then people could really see how silly you are. Those who can, can. Those who can’t, complain. Which are you!
I do have a rumor I would like to debunk, but have been unable to find info out that does that. My liberal friends have claimed that Sarah Palin hunts with an AK47. I am familiar with big game hunting in the West, but not Alaska, but I find it hard to believe. High powered rifle, scope yes, AK-47, I doubt it. My husband with some military knowledge says that an Ak 47 is not a long range weapon, and would not work past about a 100 yards.
Having hunted elk for meat, I find it silly to think you would use a submachine gun for any kind of hunting. Common sense tells you that you want a clean shot, and clean kill. Otherwise the meat is not usable, and I think an AK47 would destroy more than you would like.
Look forward to your reply to this.
Thank you for keeping track! Please keep it up!
Charlie, sir, would you please comment on the Anne Kilkenny letter? I also recieved it and was told it was the absolute truth about Mrs. Palin.
Is it?
Thanks, C
OK. OK. OK. So what if there are still some doubts out there about some of the allegations being made by the press? there are still many, many more that you have not yet answered:
1. That she has secretly met with Karl Rove and other purported Jews over the past year to plan to provoke Iran to bomb Israel so they can take over the world?
2. That she and her Eskimo husband punish their children by making them eat whale blubber while living in an igloo in their basement?
3. That she appeared in several lesbian (not that there is anything wrong with that, of course) porno films currently in circulation in Kazahkistan?
4. That she is addicted to Krispy Kreme donuts and has installed a secret vomitorium in her Juneau office so she won’t gain weight?
5. That when she was 24 she got rich by buying stock in a sandbag manufacturing company just before the Exxon Valdez oil spill?
6. That her pastor is a neo-Nazi fascist who was friends with Louis Farrakhan and other racist fascists?
7. That all her children are adopted and that she is not really a woman but was born Sam. B. Palin and had a sex-change operation in 1984 so she/he could pursue a political career based on playing gender-politics?
8. That she was scheduled for an appointment with her investment firm at the Twin Towers on Sept. 11th but mysteriously cancelled it at 8:10AM?
9. That in her hometowns in Idaho and Wasilla, local pets mysteriously disappear and are later found dead and drained of blood? Some say she is the Alaskan Chupacabra?
10. That she is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy to rob Hillary of her right to be the first female President of the U.S?
There. Now that should keep you busy.
Saw you on Fox this a.m. love what you are doing….. I am a Sarah give the woman a chance fan. I can’t help but wonder, (excluding you) what is the fascination that these people have with Palin…? Speaking of the bloggers; do they have nothing better to do? I don’t see them actually flying to Alaska, interviewing individuals on a one-on-one basis, to get a true picture of this woman’s life.
The latest I have heard, is she “cheated” to win the Miss Wasilla pageant. Come on…. how absolutely ridiculous. That indicates to me that some sour grapes mom back in 19… whatever, wanted her baby to win, not Sarah..and “leaked that to some hell bent on finding something on Sarah reporter.” Give me a break.
Left wingers (far left) are running scared, scared of her actually being who she, which in this day and age in the political arena is quite refreshing.
Oh, here’s another one – That Palin is a diminutive 5′ tall, (and, Q.E.D. too petite for office) but compensates with tall hair and heels.
(Palin, a former basketball player, is above average in height at 5’6 1/2″ tall.)
she said Iraq was a task form God
jsut what the talban say about their war
neither is right
GOD does not want war!
Anne Kilkenny illustrates something that many may not realize about small town politics, which is that it’s quite factional and personal. Once upon a time I was involved in a business where many of the clients were small town governments, and I got to see it up close and personal. And it did get quite personal. In Pe Ell, WA, for example, the political opposition was known and the “barber shop gang”, because they hung out at the local barber shop and plotted against the administration in power.
Such is politics in small towns. The winners win, and the losers lose. And Anne Kilkenny is obviously one of the many losers that Sarah Palin has left in her wake.
And no, there’s no way that a 17 year old can be 5 months pregnant as a result of having sex before she was 16. Learn to count for God’s sakes.
Without giving her birthday, couldn’t she have just turned 17, and therefore, would have had to have sex while she was still 15?
Charlie-
I’ll confess, I didn’t click on all of your extensive “sources,” but quite honestly, college freshman wouldn’t be able to get away with the few I checked out. Your pretentious sarcasm might be warranted if you actually gave me some sort of information. Nothing wrong with being partisan, but please save the middle school research projects for our kids.
flanders
nick,
You’re showing your age.
Try to be at least a little clever and use periods and upper-case letters where appropriate.
You telegraph your age by treating a discussion board like a text-message chat room.
And, of course, the content of your text-messages barely qualify as content.
Please, go back to watching Jon Stewart, playing video games, and surfing for online porn. Leave the adults to manage their affairs. Believe me, you’re at least three decades, marriage & children, a few college degrees, hundreds of books, thousands of articles, and a plethora of other experiences short of having a clue.
Carry on (adults).
“Nothing on the bridge to nowhere flip and the fact that she’s against earmarks now, but she begged for them before?”
Boris, I don’t think that word means what you think it does;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earmark_(politics)
“The federal Office of Management and Budget defines earmarks as funds provided by the Congress for projects or programs where the congressional direction (in bill or report language) circumvents Executive Branch merit-based or competitive allocation processes, or specifies the location or recipient, or otherwise curtails the ability of the Executive Branch to manage critical aspects of the funds allocation process.”
Basically, earmarks are done by the legislative branch to get around (circumvent) the Administrative branch’s budget requests. So the Administrative branch CANNOT do earmarks. Period. When the administrative branch does it, the term is ‘budget request’.
So anytime you see a Governor accused of earmarking, you know someone is blowing smoke past your sphincter.
“Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt, radio address, October 26, 1939
32nd president of US (1882 – 1945)
Yes, Sara first considered the Bridge issue, as Clinton, in the debates, considered ‘illegal’ drivers license and both after follow up realized it was bad! Thats what good politicians do, so enough already!
Its what you do with the tax payers money thats important. Saras priorities are right on; she spent the bridge money on important causes to benefit her State & constituency. The one eyed beguiled Oamacans see the ‘splinter’ in their Saviors eye but see the ‘log’ in McCain and Saras eyes! Stop insulting our intelligence with your prefabricated biased spin! Ex Democrat
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
anne or janine, maybe because you’re envious and jealous?
Isn’t it wonderful that such a stunning lady as Sarah Palin could create such a flurry to the Obama people that they are literally creating a fictional novel on the “life and times” of a little girl growing up in Wassila, Alaska. I wonder who will play her part in the movie? Surely, there will be a move since most of Hollywood is backing Obama! Will when the Hollywood folks finally realize that we don’t care a fig on who they support much less what they say? You go, Sarah, keeps their knees a-knocking!
Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, Lyda Green is a cancer survivor.
Yes, palins city went into debt for unncessary expediture
Yes she raised regressive city sales tax while reducing property taxes
Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” she said
She fired employee because he wuold not fire her Brother in law
Yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive;
Yes, she wants creationsim taught
Yes, she did smoke marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska. Yes, she apparently did inhale.
Yes, she likes Federal earmarks
Yes, Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was written by a speechwriter.
Obama writes his OWN speeches
Yes, she did put the governor’s plane on
Yes, Todd Palin did have a DUI. Drunk drivers are not caught every time
Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently does believe that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality.
Laura, it is impossible to sell something for less then it is worth. Value is established by the sales price.
It is commonplace for ‘experts’ to claim that something was worth more, in which case you need to ask those ‘experts’ for a check and close the deal right then and there.
I used to own a Toyota dealership. I once had a customer come back the next day and say that joe so and so told her we screwed her on the trade, that is was worth x dollars and we only gave her y. So I told her that she needed to go back and get Joe and bring him on down and we would let him buy her old car at his price and either give her the extra money or put it toward her new vehicle. We would do the paperwork for free. Suddenly Joe had thousands of excuse why he couldn’t do that.
My point is that it doesn’t matter what sombody who has no intention of buying thinks it’s worth. Market value is determined by the market, which means somebody has to make a sale and somebody has to come up with the cash.
There are many different books you can buy that give the “prices” of automobiles. They are all bogus, since their job is not selling an automobile, but selling that book. So once they have your 4.95$ they are done.
discussion board ?
this is not a discussion it is not a forum!
it is a place that rabid right wing relious nuts expound on how a book burning creationist is so good for America.
without even refuting any facts we have laid out.
and I feel so young, like when I am carded at bars, I am 56 you moron!
Chalie, this is excellent information. Thank you for taking the time to set this stuff straight for us. It is hard to believe we are spending so much time on this when Obama has the background he does and there is little “vetting” of that by the press or anyone else.
Thank you for doing all the work and accumulating the truth!!! Now, if only the mainstream media would publish your truths…Thanks Again.
Self-hating boomer: You hit the nail on the head. I couldn’t have said it any better. Thanks for seeing light.
Mr. Martin writes:
“Yes, it does appear that Palin’s local pastor preached about an end time when God will judge everyone, even Wasilla, Alaska, and the United States. Duh. This is called the Book of Revelations, and while I don’t believe it personally, I don’t see it as a disqualifier for the hundred million or so Baptists, Methodists, Evangelicals, Episcopalians, Catholics, Assembly of God, Presbyterian, Lutherans (traditional and Missouri Synod), African Methodist, and so on Christians in the United States.”
This doesn’t fairly represent the controversy surrounding the preacher at her church. He said during the last election cycle that he questioned the salvation of anyone in his congregration who voted for John Kerry.
I’m a liberal NY’er and I kinda like her. She’s obviously sharp, charming and doesn’t give off that media packaged stench that Obama does. The rumor stuff is nothing more than the wishful delusions of a few crackpot lefties. On the issues, she and I don’t necessarily see eye to eye. I lean towards a womans right to choose but I don’t dismiss every anti abortion argument out of hand. Morally, it’s a practice that’s tough to defend but practically, making it illegal won’t solve more problems than it creates. On guns, she’s from a state where not having them around is irresponsible. Big, predatory mammals live in close proximity to humans including children. On religion, I respect her faith but things like banning books, abstinence only education, teaching evolution, and assigning gods’ will to your particular policy strategy gives me great pause. I hope she can evolve on these issues. Banning books is a bad idea. Her own experiences should lead her to conclude that abstinence is an ideal seldom lived up to in the real world. On sex education, we should hope for the best but plan for the worst. Over time, I hope Sarah Palin can learn to be humble before god. She should realize his will in unknowable, not her or her preacher can know his will so they both should stop using his name to advance their agendas. Her record as governor has been superb. She’s cut waste, she’s taken on tough, entrenched interests and beat them and she’s done it all while being mother to five kids, one of whom she’s still breastfeeding. That says something about her work ethic and her tenacity. I like her. I hope she and McCain win.
Charlie, great job on the list. A board I frequent is convinced that her glasses are fake and have no prescription. I think these people are grasping at straws. Have any info?
I’m just wondering why everyone thinks she did so much to shake up the oil companies and help out Alaskans when Exxon just walked all over their obligation to our state’s fishermen and women. One of the biggest industries for the state and she let Exxon get away with basically paying nothing at all. p.s. Next time someone complains about the dems taking their guns away, why don’t you use them instead of claiming that you know how.
Is it true she had a sex change operation? I hear she used to be a moose.
saw fox interview was great, i am from oregon and i wonder if she does not become the vp which i hope she will, if she could or would she move to oregon and run for governor so we can have the problems alaska has?
Nick, with all due respect to you, you sound like a typical left wing zealot or zombie as I like to label them. Anytime I hear someone screaming those words, right wing religious nuts it takes me back to Obama and his accusation of small town people clinging to their guns and religion. Don’t we all cling to something in life? Left wing individuals cling to their hatred of conservatives and conservatism. All one needs to do is log on to the Daily Kos and Move On forums. I’m sure Nick, if you needed some facts those forums would provide you with as much as cannon fodder as you might need to illustrate your misguided points. I look at Sarah Palin and see an individual who has earned everything she’s got in a good way. I look at Hillary(and yes I do like her) and see someone who is also smart, savvy, intelligent and a doer but received a lot of help along the way. Both women are hugely successful but in different ways. Just understand this, the more people like you and those hate sites, Move On and Daily Kos keep making the vicious personal attacks, the more support McCain-Palin will receive. Men like myself don’t want to see any women attacked like Hillary was by the left wing loons or Sarah Palin is now by the same groups. We abhor this. Sarah’s religion is a personal thing. She hasn’t said or done anything that would warrant someone like me withdrawing my support for her or McCain. You’re going to be surprised on November 4th. Of course be made aware that McCain-Palin will be ready for the smears the week before the election. There is going to a lot of them. Obama is a rookie, a good one I admit. But he doesn’t have the necessary strength to protect America the way it should be protected. He’s Jimmy Carter the 2nd. In closing Nick, Jesus loves us all the same and he loves you too. Good luck.
I have a couple more “fact from fiction” items to add.
1. Despite what Karl Rove has said, Wasilla is NOT the 2nd largest city in Alaska. Except for Anchorage, there ARE no large cities in Alaska (and for some of us, saying Anchorage is a large city is debatable.)
2.
Contrary to what some people want to believe, Palin is running for VP, NOT President. McCain will be the President. Now, if you are a McCain supporter, by all means, vote for him, but I doubt that Palin will have much influence on what happens in the White House. I don’t see the logic of those voters who are suddenly in the McCain camp b/c of the addition of Palin.
People, use your heads. Vote for Obama or vote for McCain, but vote on the ISSUES that you believe in. Don’t vote for any candidate b/c they are “like you” (you don’t know these people…you see what they want you to see) or b/c they like hunting and you like hunting, or b/c they are black/white, male/female, or b/c you like the looks for their family. Quit watching tv, do some research, look at their stands on the issues..not just now but their past records, and make your choice that way!
Everything you said…….u ended up saying..
“so what”……..”so what”…I even learned things about her that I didn’t know….you again, said “so what”…………….so what about Obama……give him the same courtesy!!!!!
Sarah Palin is a gun totin’ hot mama who does NOT belong in the White House…she is smart but ‘ordinary’……..I could never follow her…I would not be true to myself…..I support PRO-CHOICE! and do not seek answers in the Almighty…..let alone Holy Rolers…..even tho’ she is no longer a member……….how could she ever join to begin with……..I question her judgement and her have yet to hear her views on health care, economy, war and all of the above issues……………….I do know she kills animals…..for that I know she has a wild streak, for sure………even for food…
and more………..but enough for now..
lol, will the real palin please stand up/ They have all kinds of background in fo on Sarah Palin and Joe Biden at veep peek http://www.veeppeek.com
Thanks for doing this–it’s one-stop-rumor refuting!
of course all of these rumors are gonna surface b/c she was too coward to do an interview… is the american public supposed to be so naive b/c she did an insulting speech and not question who she is… pls your results r just that, your results… simply put McInsane is a reckless, hotheaded old man, who picked the hottest babe he could fine… I hope your houses aren’t up for foreclosure or that u r expecting to send your kids to college…oh that’s right rednecks live in trailors and only get 10th grade education
obama/biden 08…. even the world knows that!!!!
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“So anytime you see a Governor accused of earmarking, you know someone is blowing smoke past your sphincter.”
I didn’t say she earmarked, I said she begged for earmarks.
Charlie – In fact, she has an Israeli flag in her office.
Thinking about that, it bothers me. I have a problem with any US elected official displaying the flag of a foreign nation in their office. Not just the China, Russian, Saudi stuff….but flags of other more banal nations. Even Canada, Mexico, the UK Jack. It colors the office by indicating a dual loyalty to some other nation than the American one the elected official was sworn to serve – based on ethnicity or religion.
Palin should shitcan the Israeli flag – be she Chistian Zionist or not.
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Nick – nick:
Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, Lyda Green is a cancer survivor.
Bitches never get cancer?
Or is it bitches with cancer, or who are constipated, or seen wearing mismatched mittens should not be giggled at…being noble victims and all…
Amazing. The truth comes out and the media flinchs. It’s lke this. No matter what anyone says about Sarah Palin and her family, the media (except Fox) will find something, however minute, to reflect a negative aspect of her. Their favoritism of the Democratic party and their unsubstantiated bias are a reflection of their own fears of admitting that they are wrong about her. Since they have nothing to go by, except the left wing bloggers and pundits who are more concerned with dishing about their own perjudice and bias, they will only spew out generalities that they come upon, or manipulate them to their own preconcieved notions. I am and have always been a “moderate” Republican. I have at times voted for Democrats when I knew that they would serve our local government well, ( I like small town living, alot quiet than the Bronx), But I refuse to go overboard until I hear and see both sides of the issues. I believe also that the “average” Amreican that will go and vote will do the same when they go to their local poll and votes their “Concience” and the “issues” and not their Party or Personality.
Charles;
What about the rumor?(fact?) that Sarah dated Barack while she was attending school in Hawaii; Barack never got over his broken heart when she dumped him, and that’s when he vowed never again to date white women.
Jessica Lewis; I rather have “McInsane” and the “coward” than Obamakhan and plaigerizing Biden.
I’m hearing crazy lib rumors that now her daughter and betrothed are now dropouts. THE boyfriend is 18 – I don’t see how he can be a drop out. Any info on the future of these two young people regarding education?
I think Sarah Palin could make Hillary and Nancy on the Hill cry.
Oooooooh, nick
You just can’t ever get it right can you?
I know that you are not familiar with the word “religious” but good grief, look how you spelled it! We were going to cut you some slack because you were young. At 56 you have no excuse.
A pro-Obama media is actually helping the Republicans achieve the presidency.
This pro-Obama media, including the NY Daily News, took an inexperienced Obama, and made him into a Jesus figure, embellished his “no accomplishments and inexperience” into the most competent candidate, the most experienced candidate around, when in reality- HE NEVER WAS!!!!!
They finagled the delegates and the superdelegates to Obama’s side, and whats worse, they skipped over Hillary, the real qualified candidate, the real winner within their circle of candidates–ANGERING Hillary’s supporters in the process.
So, by building this hype about Obama, they put forward the least qualified person on the ticket, instead of the most qualified person and for that, the media and the Democrats will pay dearly on November 4th..
BRISTOL/SARAH:
The problem with teenage pregnancy is that most teenagers cannot take care of their babies, so they depend on public assistance. This is not true in Bristol’s case-she is a pregnant teen, not a burden on our society, she will not receive welfare or public assistance, the baby’s father is around and proud, and Sarah Palin will help daughter take care of the baby.
Having said that, for those who chose to crucify Bristol and her mother for her “one time mistake” where Bristol became pregnant (it happens to the best and worst of us), I would worry more about a “one time mistake” Senator Obama made, subscribing to a racist and hate mongering church and its reverend demonizing America and the white race, and repeated this mistake over and over again for 20 years.
So Bristol’s “one time mistake”, vs Senator Obama’s 20 yr mistake, you be the judge.
SHE MAKES ME SICK!
She is a whiner and wants everything HER way. She does need to stay home and take care of her family. God only knows how bit a disaster she can cause in Washington
Ah, the smell of disingenuousness in the morning. It smells like…..desperation.
The bogus Sarah Palin Banned Books List and Palin did not request books to be banned, See http://www.MichelleMalkin.com and facts to go with it.
Maybe she did hunt down and eat Bullwinkle’s brother but I do not think that should be held against her.
Ron J:
“Is it true she had a sex change operation? I hear she used to be a moose”
Of course not!
That was the “First Dude”
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Its amazing to me how stupid most of the rumors are and yet people still believe them!! Good grief people, use your brain and common sense!
skip: Without giving her birthday, couldn’t she have just turned 17, and therefore, would have had to have sex while she was still 15?
You are joking, right? How many months in a year?
carolyn: As Pontius Pilate (another Governor!) said, “What is Truth?” A lot of the things Kilkenny says are verifiable in one way or another: yes, Wasilla has a multimillion dollar mortgage; they’ve also got a multimillion dollar sports center, which I suspect is quite an improvement in the quality of life there in February. They’ve had a lot of growth; they’ve also got a Wal-Mart, and I can tell you, having grown up in a town that size in Colorado, a Wal-Mart can be the difference between picking up a screwdriver on your way home, and a 100 mile trek to town and back. I do know that she was re-elected about 8-2 after setting this stuff up, so I get the impression Kilkenny’s opinion isn’t universally shared. But whether Kilkeeny is more correct, or Palin is, I think you have to decide for yourself. Just be aware that Kilkenny is someone who has been on the losing side in several elections Palin won,
nick: she said Iraq was a task form God
That would be #23. Check it.
Flanders: That’s the beauty of the Web, isn’t it? You don’t like my sources, research and find out for yourself. I think my sources stack up pretty well versus, say, Sullivan’s sources that Trig isn’t really Palin’s baby.
ny nick: He said during the last election cycle that he questioned the salvation of anyone in his congregration who voted for John Kerry.
So what? Is he running for anything you’ve heard about?
melanie: I’m afraid i can tell you from sad experience that sometime around 40, the glasses are usually no longer fake, no matter how good your eyes started out. I’ll ask. PS. She may well color her hair, too.
jessica: that would be #20. She’s doing a two part interview with ABC end of the week as well. Do try to remember her son is shipping out for Iraq in the near future (departure ceremony on Thursday.)
Oh hell, there’s another one.
72. Revealing a scheduled public departure ceremony for the National Guard is not an OPSEC violation.
cedarford: You tell her.
Ben: I don’t believe it for a second, but if you could get Denzel Washington, Julia Roberts, and Hallie Berrie associated with it I bet you could sell it to Dreamworks.
Addie: that would be #40 and #41.
What an opinionated piece.
You certainly slanted everything for your girl.
How many times do you have to add the word “duh” when you dislike a fact?
This looks like it could have been written by a 1st Grader. Obviously you 5th grader would have produced a better article.
You should also try grouping the positives vs negatives, facts vs fiction, political vs personal. You wound up with a very disorganized, very odd mess of garbage!
Are you a writer, journalist or just an amateur? I suspect the latter.
Great reporting. This is one of the most comprehensive lists about rumors and the facts I’ve seen. I really appreciate all the work that it took to make this accurate. Congratulations!
It’s not Wasilla. It’s Wasilly. Got that Wasilly? I know cause I heard Obama say it.
Comment by Laura – Something about her selling the private jet on ebay Palin discussed at the RNC. My Dem friends say the she did not sell it on ebay and eventually sold it for less than it was worth.
Actually if you listened to the speech Palin made at the RNC convention she stated, That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay.
Nothing was said that the plane was sold on ebay, just that she put the plane on ebay.
It’s best to make sure that you listen to whats being said, then double checking to make sure that you have the facts straight.
“without even refuting any facts we have laid out.”
That is because before we refute them they have to be laid out. It is a linear process. Sequential too.
Youse guys have put forth rumor and innuendo (look it up, unlike youse guys, it is in a dictionary) by the benjo wagon load, but not a fact one.
So get on your horsie, round up a fact and herd it on in. THEN we will dispute it.
Here is a fact. Obama IS A MUSLIM. Islamic law says that if your dad is a Muslim, you are a Muslim. There is no choice involved. Obama denies he is a Muslim, Under Islamic law he is still a Muslim, just an apostate Muslim. Islamic law says he is to be put to death and Allah will take it from there.
Secular types think that he gets a choice and when he says he’s not a Muslim, he isn’t. That is because seculars don’t believe in life after death, that once you die, that’s it, it’s over. Muslims see this life as a temporary thing, that the real life begins after death, so that while Obama may think he’s not a Muslim, after he dies he will find out otherwise.
It think that is in5An3, but what you and I or even Obama thinks is beside the point.
It is what those billion or so Muslims think that is dangerous.
ALL this is a matter of FACT, that can be googled by anyone that wants the facts.
So Ohhhhh…..BAAMA screwed up when he was first hit with the Muslim issue. Him and his elitist advisers didn’t think the voters would understand that the Laws of Islam are different, which is why we are at war with them. So they tried to blow it off instead of explaining in detail what being born a Muslim means.
Now that really stooooopid decision is starting to haunt him. What counts here is it’s another example of a bad decision by Obama. Jsut like Biden and the Birth certificate issue. Enough bad decisons to make one question his decision making ability. Added to his record of voting “present”, it is enough to make one fear his decision making ability.
“It is our choices…that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities.”
J. K. Rowling, Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets, 1999
British fantasy author
Laura, writes:
“The latest info on Palin came from a friend. Something about her selling the private jet on ebay Palin discussed at the RNC. My Dem friends say the she did not sell it on ebay and eventually sold it for less than it was worth.”
Laura,
(The stern tone is intended for the Kool-Aid drinking tools that post here.)
All right, enough already with the airplane on eBay! Idiot trolls repeat after me: Buying and selling an airplane is much like buying and selling an automobile or a yacht. Once you buy it, only in rare instances does the value go up (as with so-called classic or restored automobiles).
Most of the time, they depreciate both physically and monetarily. Also, there are strict requirements for inspections (“annuals”) and — oh Lordy — a ton of other costs for maintenance and upkeep like hangering or tie-down, fuel costs (av gas is more than automobile gasoline), and the like.
So the fact that she sold it for less than it was bought is illusory. She got rid of an asset that she felt was a financial burden on the people of Alaska and that she felt she could not justify the continued costs. She may very well have determined that, by flying commercially or with another state of Alaska aircraft:
http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/040808/sta_267202920.shtml
By the way, the above article states that the jet she sold cost almost $1700 per hour to fly, points out a number of steps that Sarah Palin took TO REDUCE COSTS, and (and!) the article was written in April of this year — well ahead of this ‘controversy”.
Laura, a previous response has deconstructed the semantics of selling something for less than it’s worth (rather adroit, I might add) but, in plain truth, what people are gassing about is that the jet was sold to a supposed crony for about $5-600,000 less than market value. I can’t comment on this, but for those who wish to do the research, here is a link for aircraft the bluebook values:
http://www.aircraftbluebook.com/
Personally, I think people are over-reaching on this one and may just get themselves burned badly. But, to paraphrase P. T. Barnum, you’ll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the MSM.
The Miss Alaska Pageant has never been called a
“beauty pageant.” In fact, they have gone to great lengths to refer to it as a “scholarship pageant” for years. It is a preliminary for the Miss America Pageant and normally in the press is NEVER referred to as anything but. The press is not being factual…has Phyllis George ever been referred to as a “beauty queen”. The difference between a beauty pageant and a scholarship pageant is the Miss America Pageant is judged heavily on talent and a judges interview.
bravo, bravo, bravo.
This is a short story anyway. McCain and Palin cannot possibly win. We do not want 4 more of the last 8 years. Palin is Bush reincarnated. She will even need a hidden receiver and earphones in case she participates in debates, as Bush did. The American Public cannot be THAT Stupid to vote in another Bush droid!
Once they lose, we will never hear from them again! Their 15 minutes will be Over!!
jessica lewis writes:
of course all of these rumors are gonna surface b/c she was too coward [sic] to do an interview… is the american [sic] public supposed to be so naive b/c she did an insulting speech and not question who she is… pls your results r {sic] just that, your results… simply put McInsane is a reckless, hotheaded old man, who picked the hottest babe he could fine…[sic] I hope your houses aren’t up for [sic] foreclosure or that u r expecting to send your kids to college…oh that’s right rednecks live in trailors [sic] and only get [sic] 10th grade education [sic]
Jessica,
Please consider this response a loving intervention and accept these heartfelt recommendations:
(1) Understand the difference between text messaging and writing in clear, concise, grammatically correct sentences.
(2) Get real cozy with your editor’s spell-checking feature.
(2) Enroll in the nearest JC English course you can “fine”
(3) ..and get a grip.
We love you, we really do.
Thank you for this Charlie. We need more bloggers like you to actually post the truth and not a bunch of BS like some bloggers on PJM. Most of your sources are cited too.
John Edwards has denied that he is the father of Bristol Palin’s child!
Dee; the only thing worse than “4 more of the last 8 years” is 4 more years of 9/11′s that an Obama/Biden administration would invite by their utter fecklesness.
Charlie. Thanks. I had great fun reading your list. Looking forward to more. Janet from Mass.
THANK YOU FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT!
People can be completely absurd!
/maria
PLEASE! I just got this…….
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”…..
“This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.”
it was published by Charley James –on Alaska speaks. This is horrible! While I am sure there have been tasteless comments made in anger at one time or another IN PRIVATE by all candidates, I’m hoping this one can be discredited. I AM voting for McCain/Palin however this turns out because I believe their hearts are good and they will serve Americans best.
How many times do you have to add the word “duh” when you dislike a fact?
Twice.
Duh.
Now three times.
Shelley, I can’t promise that everything in this is absolutely accurate, even excluding the jokes. That’s why in several places you see
strikeouts. What I do promise is that if I get something wrong, I’ll correct it.give us the links or the source of some of this “rumor dispelling.” i want to know who raised the questions to begin with…..liberal bloggers is not a sufficient answer either.
nick
“Obama writes his OWN speeches”
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (and your evidence is? that is equally gifted even without a teleprompter? youtube is overcrowded of the stuttering and babbling of obamba)
so how dumb you feel in voting a pompous ass that wrote himself “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”
Oh, and since the oceans began to slow on july 2008 approx as your messianic author said, be sure you check before you dive.
Dr. Chemical:
John Edwards has denied that he is the father of Bristol Palin’s child!
Sep 8, 2008 – 12:12 pm
Finally, Edwards being truthful about something.lol
Cynthia, that’s #65. The guy’s sourcing seems, shall we say, a little weak.
Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently does believe that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality. No, believe it or not, even fundamentalist Christians don’t have to believe every little thing their pastor believes. Yes, Palin seems to be more libertarian about this.
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I don’t know where Charlie get that fundamentalists “don’t believe gays can repent and besaved” I’m a 64 yr.old fundamentalist in the Midwest and have never heard that one!s That is the basis of true fundamentalist Doctrine and teaching in the Bible.
Bewildered
Would you please comment on her religious beliefs and the alarming comments coming from the pulpit of her church? I’m incredibly disturbed by the Dominionist rhetoric I am hearing.
Wow, I love all some of the stuff you’re claiming as fiction has already been proven otherwise. Do you have problems sleeping at night, or is ignorance truly bliss?
saw you on Fox, love the website. good job on this article.
You are a sexist idiot. And the really burning part is this: you are discriminating against fathers. All of you who post this sexist drivel about Governor Palin are guilty of maligning Todd Palin, and indeed all fathers everywhere. Not content to tell women that their place is in the home, not in the workplace, you have to do it in such a way as to tell men “you cannot raise children, that’s a woman’s job.”
Please, please tell me why you think Todd Palin is unqualified to raise his own children?
This is only a valid topic if Reverend Wright is a valid topic, you realize that, don’t you?
julie, only if you comment on the religious beliefs and the alarming comments coming from the pulpit of Obama’s church.
If you are so concerned with homosexuality you should be terrorized that the democrats have endorsed and applauded with a standing ovation the president of the Islamic Society of North America, Ingrid Mattson who believes, like all muslims do that homosexuals should be hanged (like it happens in iran).
The democrats endorsed her granting her a speech. I doubt you have enough brain to draw a logic conclusion about who is more likely to burn a gay.
Why I have a feeling
You posted a link to a youtube video of a Fox News interview with the former head of the Alaskan National Guard, who, apparently, when interviewed by Fox, felt an obligation to say Palin is instrumental in the operations of the Alaskan National Guard.
However, when interviewed by the AP, he sort of tells it a bit differently with regard to a governor’s relationship with their respective National Guard branch :: “Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “extremely responsive and smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
However, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.”
Basically, his last quote is the key issue I think people are bringing up with respect to her executive experience on a national scale. I should say that while Maj. Gen. Campbell is impressed (or pleased) with her performance with the Alaskan National Guard, it offers rather little comfort to those questioning her ability to lead one of the world’s largest armed forces.
Here’s an answer to a Palin smear on her mothering skills, based on Bristol’s pregnancy.
According to the Washington Post, Bristol was under the supervision of an aunt in Anchorage while the rest of the family was in Juneau from mid-school-year (which includes 5 months ago).
The criticisms of Sarah Palin for not being a good mother based on Bristol’s pregnancy should be limited to trusting an aunt to watch over her daughter as well as she would while the rest of the family was in Juneau.
From the Washington Post:
“The family still lives in Wasilla most of the time, in an airy wood-frame house on the shore of Lake Lucille, upscale by Alaskan standards. The governor’s mansion in Juneau, the state capital, is home only when the legislature is in session, and even then to only some of the family. The Palins enrolled the two youngest girls in Juneau schools, but Bristol went mid-school-year to live with her aunt in Anchorage, finishing at the city’s West High School.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/06/AR2008090603024_3.html?nav=rss_politics
Has she ever spoken in tongues?
Is there some special dispensation for cancer survivors that says we can no longer be called bitches?? This is news to me. Someone forgot to send me the memo on that, I guess.
On the other hand… when my sister found out I had cancer, she said that I had “too much bitch” in me to die from cancer. Do I need to denounce my sister for referring to a cancer survivor as a bitch? Is there a hotline for the purpose?
All of the above can be reconciled when you finally realize that SHE IS A SPACE ALIEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!answerthephone
Victor, compare what I said and what you quoted. When you ask me about something I said, I’ll be happy to comment.
James, you’re going to have to be a little more specific. But if you think there’s something wrong, leave me a comment here or at the rumors page. As you’ll see from the other strikeouts, I make corrections.
Terry, how many military command decisions do you suppose the usual governor makes? Or the usual President, for that matter? (Lyndon Johnson was a notable exception, and he also was notable for the hash he made of things thereby.)
Terry,
Once a state’s national guard is commandeered by the Feds, the state governor no longer commands it. I think this should be obvious in itself. Why would the feds give governor commands of troops in theatre like Iraq or Afghanistan?
But this does not negate the fact that as the governor, she does have command of the national guards in other time, giving her military commander in chief responsibility. which is far more “commander in chief” experience than Obama and Biden combined.
And for that matter, why would the feds give national defense responsibility to most governor anyway? … well the only exception is actually the Governor of Alaska does oversee a National guard unit that is part of the national missile defense.
“No, she’s doesn’t believe that the Iraq War was directed by God. Yes, she did pray that proceeding with the war was God’s will: “they should pray ‘that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.’” (Ever hear the phrase “Not my will, but Thine, be done”?)
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The quotes make it clear that she wants our leaders to pray that they are doing the right thing. I’m against McCain and Palin, but what’s wrong with that?
Your wording that I’ve underlined can be misread as saying that she believes that the war IS God’s will. It doesn’t mean that. (I would have written that clause as “pray that proceeding with the war be God’s will”, but hardly anyone knows how to use the subjunctive anymore, and we’ve lost some meaningful distinctions.)
Thanks so much for taking the time to really sort out Palin truth vs. Palin rumor! You’ve done an excellent job … very informative. I saw you on Fox and went to your site right away. Great work!
Great job on Fox this morning and your list! Palin Rocks and boy does she scare the libs in this country. ABOUT TIME!
The WikiPedia probably speaks to the question about whether Sarah Palin is the CINC or CIC (emphasis added):
The National Guard of the United States is a reserve military force composed of state National Guard members or units under federally recognized active or inactive armed force service for the United States [1][2]. The National Guard of the United States is a joint reserve component of the United States Army and the United States Air Force and maintains two subcomponents: the Army National Guard of the United States [1] for the Army and the Air Force’s Air National Guard of the United States [1].
Established under Title 10 and Title 32 of the U.S. Code, state National Guard serves as part of the first-line defense for the United States.[3] The state National Guard is divided up into units stationed in each of the 50 states and U.S. territories and operates under their respective state governor or territorial government [4]. The National Guard may be called up for active duty by the state governors or territorial commanding generals to help respond to domestic emergencies and disasters, such as those caused by hurricanes, floods, and earthquakes.[4]
With the consent of state governors, members or units of state National Guard may be appointed to be federally recognized armed force members in active or inactive service [5][6][7]. If so recognized, they become part of the National Guard of the United States [1]. The National Guard of the United States units or members may be called up for federal active duty in times of Congressionally sanctioned war or national emergency [4]. State National Guard may also be called up for federal service, with the consent of state governors, to repel invasion, suppress rebellion, or execute federal laws if the United States or any its states or territories are invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation, or if there a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the federal government, or if the President is unable with the regular armed forces to execute the laws of the United States [8]. Because both state National Guard and the National Guard of the United States relatively go hand-in-hand, they are both usually referred to as just National Guard.
..I would have to say, from the above, it’s pretty clear that Governor Palin is pretty much the head honcho of her state’s troops.
It’s so sad that this nation has become so divided. Responsibility and accountability on one side and everything goes on the other. We’ve come to this point because one side believes that the majority should rule and that doing for others is more important than doing for yourself; while the other side believes that no one should ever feel bad or ostracized for their behavior or choices and the government should be there as a giant pacifier.
The joke is that the Republican Party started because it wanted to end slavery (giving everyone the chance to pursue the dream) AND it was a Democrat who famously said, “Ask not what your country can for you…and who is in line first with open palms? And who is saying that Mrs. Palin shouldn’t have the choice to be a mom and govern? This is a tiny sampling of an astonishingly long list of hypocrisy by the Dems.
It seems to me that Obama is just following his party of flip-floppers and double-talkers and denigrating Sarah Palin just proves my point.
Is either candidate perfect? Of course not. If 20% of the rumor list is true, I’m good to go. After all, how many of us have a background that is 80% to the good? And that is where/why the Obama/Biden camp is freaking–their faults/shortcomings far outweigh 20% and thus the need to try and find every dust mote in Sarah’s life.
I applaud and thank Charlie Martin for keeping the 20% real!
Not to change the subject, but here’s a piece of worthwhile reading:
(Note: This is an interview given prior to Sarah Palin coming onto the scene and within 7 days garnering more positive support and approval than Obama did in 18 months!)
Nancy Pelosi talks about the importance to have young women in politics…
http://feathersblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/nancy-pelosi-talks-about-importance-to.html
I heard about it on the Roger Hedgecock show (San Diego, KOGO Radio).
Charley,
Check out this link http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
Maybe finally some vindication!
Adrian, that’s really the heart of it, isn’t it? I’m pro-choice — the “above my pay grade” remark is one of the few times I’ve really agreed with Obama — and think gays ought to be permitted to marry, if only because I don’t see why they should get off easy compared to straight people. But Palin is comparatively libertarian about most things, and she is exactly the example of a woman doing what only men could do a few years ago.
People like Pelosi ought to ask themselves if they’re more interested in their ideals, or onto clinging to power.
woo-hoo! You rock, Charlie!! I am SO sick and tired of all of the rumors, lies, etc.
For the people who can’t add and think if you just turned 17 you can be 5 months pregnant and have conceived before you were 16, here is the math. 12 months in a year. 12 -5 = 7. So even if her birthday were today and she just turned 17, she would still had to have been at least 16 when she conceived. Please learn basic math skills.
Funny thing about Sambo, it was a book AND a restaurant. They had to change the name, Lil’ Jew Boy didn’t fly either so now it’s Denny’s.
Back when John Kerry was being spun up as a consummate Vietnam War Hero and military commander extraordinaire – Democrats counted on the unfamiliar just latching on to surface details and the 3 war wounds and “hero medals” and swallowing the whole “proven under fire to be ready for CiC” spin.
What they forgot is that 1.3 combat zone Vets who served in ‘Nam that knew what it was actually like there and that Kerry had all the foul aroma of a duplicitous, embellishing officer. And another 24 million who served who had a fairly good idea of who was more credible to them – Kerry or his fellow officers who considered him a dishonorable dirtbag.
Republican spinmeisters are making a big mistake trying to fluff up Sarah Palin as a seasoned military and national defense CiC.
What Terry said is something that must be repeated so that people with no understanding of what Reservists do or who they report to is clear.
“Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, considers Palin “extremely responsive and smart” and says she is in charge when it comes to in-state services, such as emergencies and natural disasters where the National Guard is the first responder.
However, he said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.”
She is not in control.
She is not briefed.
Again,
She is not in control.
She is not briefed.
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Huan – Why would the feds give governor commands of troops in theatre like Iraq or Afghanistan?
But this does not negate the fact that as the governor, she does have command of the national guards in other time, giving her military commander in chief responsibility. which is far more “commander in chief” experience than Obama and Biden combined.
And for that matter, why would the feds give national defense responsibility to most governor anyway? … well the only exception is actually the Governor of Alaska does oversee a National guard unit that is part of the national missile defense.
Huan, she is not in control. She is not even briefed in those matters.
She does not oversee or have any command authority at any time over any Guard assigned national defense or Homeland Security missions. She has no authority to assign them as she wants to military missions, nor authority to pull them for natural disaster or civil disturbance duty (where she does have domestic control – when the Feds free them from national assignments.)
And not to puff up Biden, but the facts are he has has extensive experience in war college, Pentagon exercises evaluating national defense effectiveness. Biden is a player, who has worked in those evaluated exercises as anything from POTUS, to a top diplomat advising POTUS or engaging enemy diplomats – to being in the role of leader of an allied or enemy country he is familiar with – in the Blue-Red Force conflict scenarios.
Obama has been in one such exercise and “failed open” – unable to make decisions well or in a timely manner. (Can’t vote “present”, I guess..)
Palin has never been tested or in a military cammander capacity at any level. That is not a black mark. It is just the facts, and no different than many other people who have served well as VPOTUS or POTUS in the past. Think of Reagan, Clinton, VP Humphrey.
McCain has served as commander in actual conflict and in exercises and has done “satisfactorily” to “very well” in both. (With some negatives that McCain is too impulsive to some, lets his temper get in the way, and was/is not the smartest guy in Naval aviation or national defense exercises.
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William of Orange – ..I would have to say, from the above, it’s pretty clear that Governor Palin is pretty much the head honcho of her state’s troops.
She is the titular head. Meaning she has no authority over any military mission (“not in control, and we don’t brief her.”)
If not doing military duties, she can assign them to help clean up a salmon dieoff, or put them under the civilian police chain-of-command. If such situations involve Feds having the lead and ordering her Guard to pick up dead salmon here and there, or be subordinate to a Federal force for police actions in an emergency – she has to give consent – unless the President declares by Executive order that he takes away the governor’s authority and Federalizes the Guard because the Governor is not adequately discharging the duties of office. And Posse Commitatus does not apply.
This was done by Eisenhower when after Govs threatened to use their Guard to block civil rights orders, Ike just took their Guard away or showed up with a military command team ready to take over if the Governor remained intransigent.
It should have been done by Bush or threatened to be done in Katrina, when Gov Blanco became emotionally and mentally unable to cope with the disaster response and command her Guard do domestic 1st responder and civil order work..
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Point being, Republicans should avoid the Kerry Fiasco in thinking they can put one over on a guillable public by puffing up Palin. Kerry was hurt by the campaign calling him a war hero when all it did was dredge up what he actually did back then. And Palin will be hurt by Republican shills calling her a “national energy expert” and “seasoned military commander” when the public concludes those outlandish claims are not rooted in fact.
Palin has many impressive abilities and credentials. Republicans should avoid pretending she has abilities and credentials she doesn’t really have.
I say that as someone that wanted Thompson, found him too lazy, hate to have to hold my nose and vote McCain, but he is better than Obama – who unlike Palin so far – has embraced doing fraudulent testimony to his abilities and in matters of experience, that he has no dealings in.
You’re wrong about the Bridge to Nowhere money. She kept it all.
Stevens: No Action for ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ by Palin
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/08/stevens_no_action_for_bridge_t.html
“Count Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) as a defender of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s position on the controversial “Bridge to Nowhere” project.
“I don’t remember her ever campaigning for it. As a matter of fact, she was very critical of it at the time. And she took the money and did not use it for the bridge, so you’re wrong, as far as I’m concerned,” Stevens said today.”"
Thanks for fighting the good fight. I saw you this morning also and I must say that you brightened my day. Keep up the good work.
For a more compelling look at Sarah Palin, please take a look at this link below—
http://howinsaneisjohnmccain.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-scandals-complete-list.html
You know, actually, Jeff’s list is interesting; have a look at it, follow the links, see what seems more believable to you?
Was Fox News so desparate to find anyone making an attempt to defend Sarah Palin’s record as mayor and governor that this blog’s author was the best source they could find? These are not researched, factual refutations of rumors. These are OPINIONS about rumors. That is not the same thing and laughably inane as a defense for the legitimate questions about Sarah Palin’s background that suggest she is a horrible choice for vice president.
C4
“Huan, she is not in control. She is not even briefed in those matters.
She does not oversee or have any command authority at any time over any Guard assigned national defense or Homeland Security missions. She has no authority to assign them as she wants to military missions, nor authority to pull them for natural disaster or civil disturbance duty (where she does have domestic control – when the Feds free them from national assignments.)
strawman arguement. never said she commanded NG for national defense of homeland security. the default state for the NG is to be under the command of the governor. the president can usurp that when needed. and when not under federal duty, which is most of the time, the governor can call them up for duty.
governors time and time again have mobilized the national guards for emergencies.
see Jindal’s actions with the Louisiana’s NG during Gustav preparations.
sounds like the governor was in charge to me.
Jeff,
Did you read Mr. Martin’s article, or did you get overwhelmed and intimidated?
I LOVE IT! THANK YOU! Keep it coming Charlie!
So where is all Obamas military experience? Or executive experience? Probably too busy writing autobiographies to actually do anything.
And by all means lets talk about odd religious backgrounds and ideas… I am pretty sure the right rich Reverand Wright friend of Farrakan has less to do with the Biblical Christianity than anyone at the AOG. And be sure and look up the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus endorsement of homosexual marriage – That from Obama personally… Check it out starts in Matthew 5. Do you good to search the scriptures but dont hold our breath while you are looking for that leap of faith.
John
Great site Charlie! Keep up the fantastic work.
BTW has anyone noticed that the vast majority of anti-Palin posters here are women? In fact I’m betting some of the anti-palin men are actually women? Its no wonder Hillary lost with over 50% of the registered democratic female voters NOT voting for a woman.
Hey here’s a big fat rumor for you. The rumor that NOW and Gloria Steinem represent women and that the only women’s issues are issues from the left. The TRUTH is the left does not and never owned women’s issues. Not every woman wants a drive thru at her favorite abortion clinic.
Also, is it true Trig planted the bombs in the world trade center? Cause I think Sarah was the second shooter in the grassy knoll next to Elvis and the space men.
Jeff:
howinsaneisjohnmccain.blogspot.com Oh yeah, that’s a real fair and balanced site name. No bias there. Gotta be chocked full of facts.
“Obama writes his OWN speeches”
Obama has a speech writer. Perhaps you should say ‘Obama writes SOME of his speeches’. That may be a little more accurate.
MAJOR OMISSION: Why did Sarah Palin have to hire a city administrator when she was mayor? That tells us that her so-called executive experience is a LOT less credible.
I guess your claim that she was going to have three media interviews on Sept. 6 wasn’t very accurate, was it? I see you updated the post with strike-thrus. I think you should update that section, too.
This proves that ANYONE can be President/VP of the US. Experience not required. If you are a good speaker or actor, go for it. People go for looks, personality and celebrity status. If Paris Hilton would run for it, lots of people would vote for her, maybe just for fun, but they would.
The US has been a banana republic politically for quite a while, but people overestimate it just because there are a lot scientific achievements that makes them think they are better than anyone. The achievers are just a fraction of the population, but everyone else takes credit for them just because they live here.
Politics is about control and the politicians are pretty smart about fooling most everyone. Smart people vote about position on issues that bring prosperity, peace, respect and order without waste.
Joe “Obama writes his OWN speeches”
Obama has a speech writer. Perhaps you should say ‘Obama writes SOME of his speeches’. That may be a little more accurate.”
Maybe he uses his senatorial one liner for speech writing. The speech writer looks at Obama and says ,”what say you Barrack,should we put political pressure on Pakistan to clean up the Taliban?” “Present,” is the reply. Then Barrack’s speech writes this rather cute message as words for Barrack to read. I was present when serious discussions were held on Pakistan’s involvement with the Taliban.
Thanks for this…posting your list anywhere I see some fool posting vicious lies about Palin…including in the Daily Telegraph.
I linked … thanks for tracking down the growing list of rumors and setting the record straight.
Since when have “all the Dems” been freaking out over Palin? There are jokes, and yes, most liberal leaning people are amazed that people fell for her nothing of a speech at the convention and don’t bother asking important questions. (The fact that the Bridge to nowhere money found itself very far down your list shows that even you don’t really want to talk about it. Because, you know, the money hasn’t been returned, only kind of renounced many months after the fact.) But really, this is about presidential candidates, not transparently get-you-talking veep choices.
And as for Another Laura’s comments: “We’ve come to this point because one side believes that the majority should rule and that doing for others is more important than doing for yourself; while the other side believes that no one should ever feel bad or ostracized for their behavior or choices and the government should be there as a giant pacifier.” The divide exists because of offensive comments like this. You’re making Conservatives seem saintly and Liberals seem anything but. If you chose words better and didn’t just aim at the jugular by condescending to everyone here who already agrees with you, we may all be better off.
I am so happy that someone is trying to “keep up and correct all the gossip on this lady.”
Heard one on Fox and Friends this morning, that Bob Beckel was expounding on, but I have not read it or heard it anywhere else.
That Gov. Palin charged per deim each day for living in her own house.
Please address this on your site.
Don’t believe, but would love to see what reaction you have
Ah, enlightenment. Sometimes the truth is just as damning as the rumors.
How about this one? “Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was even sponsored by BP.” It is my understanding that Palin decided to stand on principle and resign from the good ol’ boys’ Oil and Gas Conservation Committee.
Does anyone know where I can get a “Read My Lipstick” bumper sticker or pin?
Another breaking news item raising a new issue (per diem abuse):
Palin billed state of Alaska for nights spent at home
What troubles me most about the way the media (with exception of FOX) has jumped all over Sarah Palin and published gossip and unproven rumor literally non-stop since her nomination was announced is that these media tactics reminded me of the way Joseph Goebles convinced
Germany that Hitler was a good deal. The Nazi’s big brag was
that the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it. We are witnessing a character smear of monumental proportion in the Liberal Media attacks on Mrs. Palin. It really scares me that our once respected major networks ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, have now become the spokesmen for the Democratic Party (along with a host of newspapers,magazines) and are no longer considered to be serious news agencies by most thinking Americans. Reporting the news is one thing…propaganda and smear tactics is not reporting the news it is perverting it.
You are blind, deaf, and dumb if you think that Buchanan is supporting Obama!
HE”S SELECTED
NOT ELECTED
ashobs: “There are jokes, and yes, most liberal leaning people are amazed that people fell for her nothing of a speech at the convention and don’t bother asking important questions.”
And yet you don’t question Obama for the same reasons? Greek columns at his speech? He’s as much smoke and mirrors as anyone else. What exactly IS all that change? Do you even ask? As for being nice, why should anyone cater to a group like modern liberals who are so nasty, racist and intolerant that they cannot accept others for being different. Take a look at the phrase “global warming denier” for how arrogant the left is. All sorts of other groups get trashed by the left, not just conservatives. They alienate everyone. The fact NOW and Steinem claim only they hold women’s rights is clear evidence of this. Women can only be true women if they subscribe to a narrow and ignorant mindset of liberal dogma. The ONLY choice for women are the choices liberals want women to make.
Women sunk Hillary. Now women will sink Obama.
Great stuff Charlie.
Like a breath of fresh air.
Even “We write for Barack” Newsweek…
Is Getting On Board !
Markus, I’ve been too busy to update the list; that’ll happen today. At the same time I’ll be reorganizing to be more like a FAQ page, as it’s going to be well over 80, I think. In the mean time, <a href=”http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_09_07-2008_09_13.shtml#1220936107″David Bernstein at Volokh has already looked at this one:
The fact that the Bridge to nowhere money found itself very far down your list shows that even you don’t really want to talk about it.
No it doesn’t.
Charlie,
I am told that the $200 million she turned down for the bridge to no where was still given to the state in the form of a blank check. Is that correct?
Dave
The Palin truthers aren’t going to give it a rest, are they? Unbelievable. Let’s start talking about the grassy knoll and Area 51, and plausible stuff like that.
Joe Biden will be offering that he was also “present” during the 2008 Electoral campaign and be very upset that the voters voted “No” instead of “Absent.”
I want to know if it is true that while she was Mayor of Wasilla, rape victims had to pay for their own rape kits for forensic investigations, in an effort to save the town money:
see http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/wasilla-charged-rape-victims-for-their.html
Yes, MSNBC etc., got away with Sexism and distortions of the truth regarding Hillary
but they have pushed their luck, NO more!
Did you catch CNN TV, Anderson Coopers misspeak on the 8th! He misrepresented the truth about Saras EBay plane sale! Leaving viewers with the impression that she had misled us! Much later he recanted and corrected his words but not all will hear that! CNN almost as one sided as MSNBC!
The airplane was put on EBay, but, eventually, sold privately.
Here’s a nice piece of writing.
From “liberal” Kirsten Powers, no less
How Obama Blew It
Quick point: it’s the book of Revelation, not “Book of Revelations”; “Book of” is not in its title. Most scholars disagree with the exegesis (interpretation) that extremists (like Palin’s pastor) try to apply to it. They apply a GI Joe-meets-Masters of the Universe fantasy to it that just isn’t in the text.
And I don’t know where you come off thinking that the Assemblies of God has such a degree of freedom in its pastors’ theological views. They might not spell out as much of their views as a group in some big “statement of faith,” but they do still force such specific views in an…unspoken manner. Those who disagree are basically thought of as “misguided by the devil” and other such bunk.
Seems from this side of the pond that there’s a lot of hot air blowing. But it does look unfortunate that Palin asks for her daughter’s privacy to be respected but shows her on TV with the boy friend. You can’t have your cake and eat it.!!!
Engaged, where’s the ring?
Engaged, where’s the ring?
On Bristol Palin’s finger.
“The boyfriend” Levi was flown down the day of Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech because of calumny and bashing and filth of a solid week from the (not so mainstream) media.
(I hope this helps, I doubt that it will, Adios
the rumour i heard goes as follows.
****rumour start***
Bristol and Track palin are the true parents of trig. The reason why he has down syndrome is due to inbreeding. Sarah, after finding out about the incest, signed her son up to ship him off to iraq.
****rumour end***
there is no depth to which these creatures will not plunge to kill the machine that is palin.
What do you mean Governor Palin doesn’t hunt?
A picture on page 28 of this week’s Time Magazine with Sarah Palin on the cover, dated September 15, 2008, has a picture of a dead caribou, her and her daughter with the caption “Hunter-gatherer Admiring a caribou she shot, as her daughter looks on.”
One thing that seems to miss the libs about the “bridge to nowhere”. OBAMA AND BIDEN VOTED FOR IT!!!!
Andy:
One thing that seems to miss the libs about the “bridge to nowhere”. OBAMA AND BIDEN VOTED FOR IT!!!!
Sep 9, 2008 – 1:25 pm
While doesn’t that tarnish the Sheriff & Deputy Dawgs badge, using their own measuring stick.
Loved the Saddles riff; oddly, I was watching the movie about the time you were writing the bit, I think…
everytime palin speaks i hear “dueling banjos” She is a frightening, minimally educated, self described ‘redneck’ Americans should be scared.
To Charlie (Colorado):
McCain/Palin is going to beat Obama/Biden like a baby seal!
Firefighter: If you’re getting auditory hallucinations of banjo music, you should visit a doctor immediately.
I read your blog to confirm or debunk rumors, and by the third “yes”, realized that you are deep in Palin’s tank.
I suggest you address the lies she continues to spout in every one of her controlled appearances. Hints: Ebay, Thanks, but no thanks. They seem to be her big hitters, and both are as transparent as your blind support.
Give it up, Charlie; you’ll never get to hit that, not matter how much you fawn over it.
Jerry, you need to follow the links. If you think something needs to be corrected, let me have a source. But if you’d have continued reading, you’d have found out that you’re talking about #64 and #59 respectively. The eBay one, in particular, says “Yes, McCain is saying it wrong.”
Now, don’t you feel silly?
Firefighter, I would then suggest you don’t vote for her.
On the WaPo story about the per diem, it appears that Palin was taking the per diem of about $55 to which she is legally entitled while she was away from her official residence in Juneau. It also appears Joe Biden is charging the travel expenses of up to $336 a trip, to which he is legally entitl;ed, for his Amtrack commute to Delaware.
On the rape-kit thing, it appears that the hospital in Wasilla is charging suspected victims health insurance for the ER visit. I believe this isn’t an unusual policy based on a vague recollection from when I was at Duke Hospital, but I haven’t got confirmation yet.
Louise: give it a rest. Jesus, it’s been eight years. Move on.
I’d like to thank an unnamed benefactor for registering the domain name “palinrumors.com” and making it available. For the foreseeable future, you will be able to reach this list in its most current version via http://palinrumors.com .
On the rape-kit story, that turns out to be the standard practice in, at least, North Carolina and Missouri.
I’ll also remind everyone that under the law you can’t be denied treatment in an ER for lack of insurance.
Good list. One amendment to it though… the point about Palin legally inhaling a couple of decades ago is about the same time Obama has admitted to in his book that he took harder illicit substances illegally.
Joe, I’m doing an Obama Rumors list, I’ll add it to that.
Kristan Powers got it right. The Ultra Left of the democratic party that ridicules small town American values are making it easy for McCain/Palin. With the ultra left, such as Gloria Stienem & folks calling small town conservative Democrats & Church going folk being classed as Red necks and fools, they castigate the people the party needs the most. That rather astute observation my Kristin Powers is bang on.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09092008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/how_obama_blew_it_128132.htm
Kristan Powers is a Democrat, who I find interesting for her intelligent defense of her Party over the years. I respect her even more for her taking her Party to task for their disrespect of the American voter that does have Faith and roots in Small town America. She understands the need to get support from mothers that have no time for Gloria Stienem politics. She noted that their working class families are being dissed by the Democrats when they make fun of rural America and the Red Neck ridicule that is found on this blog. Keep making fun of the conservative wing of your party and the folk in your party that do put their Faith in God and you will bury Obama so deep that a grizzly bear on steroids wouldn’t be able to dig him up.
Any attempts to disprove the following as a hoax have failed. It is the real thing. This was written by a woman who has known Sara Palin for years:
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.
She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because she is a ‘babe’.
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.
She is ‘pro-life’. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just ‘puts things out there’ and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.
Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
She’s smart.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a fiscal conservative. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.
While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.
These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.
As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state. In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.
She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.
While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
Sarah complained about the old boy’s club when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of ‘old boys’. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he intimidated her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.
She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.
Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.
When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the old boys’ club when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).
As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the bridge to nowhere after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.
As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as anti-pork.
She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.
Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her Sarah Barracuda because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.
As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as AGIA that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.
Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned as a private citizen against a state initiative that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.
McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.
There have to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she.
However, there are a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.
CLAIM VS FACT
Hockey mom: true for a few years
PTA mom: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
NRA supporter: absolutely true
Social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconstitutional).
Pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
Pro-life: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
Experienced: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council.
Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
Political maverick: not at all
Gutsy: absolutely!
Open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
Has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
A Greenie: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
Fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
Pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
Pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
Pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
Pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that ‘Bad things happen when good people stay silent’. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.
Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.
You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my ‘about 5,000′, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90 s.
Lets see if you have the courage to post the letter by Anne Kilkenny. Gee, I’ll bet you don’t.
cheq: That would be #50, and the quote you’re using is ripped screaming from its context. But the LA Times reported:
Michael: Well, you rather look like a fool now, don’t you? Look, people, comment moderation at PJM is only there to keep people from posting malicious HTML and making denial of service attacks; I haven’t ever heard of a comment being modded off for content. But I see a lot of people making themselves look like idiots (yes, I’m talking to you Michael) by posting something — often something that proves they haven’t read the article, or aren’t actually responding to it, and yes, I’m talking to you again Michael, since you’re hitting #40 here — and then posting snide comments to the effect of “you won’t have the nerve to post this.”
This ain’t the Daily Kos, kids: PJM doesn’t kill posts because we think they’re wrong.
In any case, that would be the letter by her long time political opponent, who is saying things in her letter that don’t match was was reported contemporaneously. So I’ll have to say I don’t find her credible. However, there are plenty of links: an honestly interested reader will read them and decide for themselves.
And in the future, for God’s sake learn to make a link; this is about the eighteenth copy of the Kilkenney letter I’ve seen cut and pasted into someone’s comments.
Michael Pourais:
So bombing the blog with the same letter that has been debunked repeatedly is a stradegy?
Here’s USA Today on the “book banning”:
My biggest concern with McCain’s pick of Palin is that, with her tough no holds bar conservative stance, it will be very difficult to reform this hyperpartisanship that we are facing in Washington, as McCain claims that he wants to do. They will face many an opposition from the Left in Washington from the start on many an issues facing our country.
The other main fact is that Palin has never tackled on any problems inside of Washington so will be viewed by our Democratic controlled Congress with little experience, as McCain has always viewed with Obama. They will always have a mental note of the short time that she’ll be in Washington.
With Palin’s pick, we could be facing a more uphill battle in Washington than Obama’s pick of Biden. We don’t need internal battles in Washington, we need results!
Its refreshing to read an article that deals in facts & truths, rather than political hyperbole.
This woman is not the ogre they have portrayed her to be. She has had to deal with political rivals, just as Obama, Biden, McCain, and every other politician has had to. Yet we hear little about anyone asking these questions about those fellows, do we?
Could there be a significant bias because she does not believe in “abortion?” You bet.
Could the media help elect her & McCain because “fly over America’ is angry the elite have attacked an average America (OK, above average)? You can bet the bank on it.
Will McCain-Palin win?
Only on November 5, 2008 will anyone be able to answer this! But, attacking her has not resulted in a gain in the polls for Obama-Biden, has it?
? I know she is pro-life what about in the case of rape,incest, or danger to a mothers life
I thought I read those were her exceptions, but commentators keep saying even in those cases she’s against it. does any one know the truth. Thank’s
Jeff, I understand your point, but something I wish people would remember is that she’s running for VICE President. So, first of all you ought to look at McCain’s record, and he’s fairly infamous in R circles for not being supremely partisan. Palin is much the same in Alaska: she whupped the entrenched R machine and often needs to include D’s to get things she wants passed.
Ronni, my understanding is that she’s not happy with abortion for rape and incest, but accepts it if there’s a threat to the life of the mother. However, that’s not in any way official; I’ll keep pursuing a definite answer.
What I like more than Sarah’s views on things, is that she puts her money where her mouth is. If she says she is pro-life, she gives birth to a Down’s baby when 90% are aborted. If she says she’s going to cut excess spending she does so, even if it effects her. So even if I were to disagree with her on something, I would respect her point of view. She is a breath of fresh air a world full of politicians who play games.
No matter how you slice it, Obama’s comment of “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig” is once again a bullying, leftist wing-nut snide remark meant to insult either Sarah Palin, the Republican Party, or both. The audience’s reaction is confirmation enough for me that the message was exactly what it was meant to be–vicious, rude, and offensive. Since Obama fans claim that he writes his own speeches (and Sarah Palin doesn’t), I say keep up the good work, Obama, we Republicans appreciate the effect your speeches and nasty attitude are having on recent polls. You might have gained some points had you said, “You can put lipstick on an elephant, but it’s still an elephant.” Even I would have snickered at that one.
I just gotta say this about that…
For years (and years !) we’re subjected to rationalizations for a sitting President, diddling an intern in The Peoples’ highest office, lying under oath, treating “morality” as if having hundreds of extramarital affairs was a walk in the park…
And along comes a funny, decent, interesting quick thinking individual willing (God knows why) to wade into the cesspool of the national political scene…
And she gets bashed with crapola almost beyond recognition.
In the words Camille Paglia
..The witch-trial hysteria of the past two incendiary weeks unfortunately reveals a disturbing trend in the Democratic Party…Democrats are clinging to pat group opinions as if they were inflexible moral absolutes
If only McCain had just picked rosie odonnel, he would of already had a pig with lipstick
Okay, here’s the best source I’ve found on the rape kit rumor. (Thanks to commenter Damien at palinrumors.com.)
The truth of it is that there is a law signed in 2000 that makes it illegal to charge the victims. Prior to that time, the Wasilla police attempted to charge the victim’s insurance company; the chief of police wanted to recover the cost from the criminal. As I noted above, this is consistent with the policy in most states I’ve been able to find information on.
small town chick YOU are a MORON
how can he insult a pretty women with such a phrase?
now if it was about you on the other hand….
Great post. The facts get so mired in all the noise it’s frustrating. However, you didn’t mention any of the following:
1) Yes, she was for the “Bridge to Nowhere” and didn’t denounce it until AFTER it was no longer politically or economically viable. And yes, she kept the money.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080908/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_palin;_ylt=ApiUTHntV1HYGvdvZkSmbr.s0NUE
2) Yes, she was quite savvy in securing earmarks for both Wasilla and the state of Alaska. (Obama hasn’t asked for any earmarks this year. However, last year, he asked for $311 million worth of earmarks, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska has this year asked for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080908/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_palin;_ylt=ApiUTHntV1HYGvdvZkSmbr.s0NUE
Palin has, however, reduced the amount of earmarks Alaska has requested over time. Now, was it out of a need for reform? Apparently, not. It was more because the oil money pouring into Alaska and because earmarks, politically speaking, have become a much less viable strategy for garnering funds.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/130579
3) Yes, Palin is head of the Alaska National Guard, however, according to Craig E. Campbell, the adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, her authority is over the National Guard’s domestic missions — fighting wildfires, rescuing stranded residents, etc. but she has a limited role in determining how the forces are trained or equipped.” Or their deployment overseas, I believe.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/09/03/palin_not_well_traveled_outside_us/?page=full
Nick, Obamas lipstick on a pig comment wasnt insulting? Its just a metaphor right? No meaning? Fine. So what if someone said that the backtracking by the libtards, including Obama, was them trying to “polish a turd”? I’m not offended. Are you?
Over and over from Reverend Wright to Father Pflaeger to even now William Ayers, they are all saying,”Well it was taken out of context”. When you look at the context of what he said and what he said about the fish it is very clear he was referring to Palin and McCain. His lemming in the audience understood it. What else were the cheers and laughter for?
Actually, JB, that would be #59, #58, and #2 respectively. Did you read the article, or is this another drive-by cut&paste job?
cheq: reading comprehension seems to be an issue. She said she would oppose explicit programs. “Explicit” doesn’t mean “anything but abstinence only.” You can look it up.
No, she did not finally turn down the money for the bridge. That is simply false.
Arguably, she chose not to spend the money on the bridge (though equally arguably, (1) that decision was basically made for her and (2) it was made because Congress did not come through with even more money), but she did not turn it down — she allocated it to a road instead.
Hey nick: Whoa!!! Wait a minute. I got your insult, but your question is a bit ambiguous. Are you asking how Obama could possibly lower himself to insult a “pretty” woman with such a phrase, or are you asking how could a “pretty” woman be insulted by such a phrase? Interesting thought process. As you probably surmised, I am an avid Sarah Palin fan. There is no doubt Obama’s despicable pig/lipstick remark was aimed directly at Palin. Who says he’s not a hunter? Had Obama chosen an elephant for his insult, he could have spun it as an insult meant for the GOP and not exclusively for Sarah Palin. He hit his intended target, but she’s not going down, he is. She has the libs on the run, and it is quite amusing to watch them implode. The “Read My Lipstick” slogan is a good thing. Sarah Palin has single-handedly reunited the GOP, put a spark in John McCain (he looks 10 yrs younger), and is the voice of the silent majority. Go Sarah!!
Also – having a small Israeli flag in her office is not evidence either way re anti-Semitism. Certain types of Evangelical Zionists can be *very* anti-Semitic, and some would say potentially dangerous. I haven’t any idea what she thinks about Jews, but having a flag in her office says nothing about whether or not she is an anti-Semite — and is not enough to convince Jews who I know.
You would be on more solid ground pointing to her statement that she claims not to subscribe to the Jews for Jesus view that was preached at her church, and that there is no other direct evidence that she is anti-Semitic.
tanstaafl and Dark Helmut: Great comments! I’m still laughing at Dark Helmut’s. Thanks for the smile.
Always happy to be of sevice ma’am.
Why is a Lenscrafters model trying to be our vice president??
I think I stick with Joe Biden!
she said it was a task from God BEFORE
she uttered words “let pray”
she is the Lipstick Mccain is trying to put on his lousy record.
and for the poster who posted a list that nobody tried to refute
I repeat them here.
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Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, Lyda Green is a cancer survivor.
Yes, palins city went into debt for unncessary expediture
Yes she raised regressive city sales tax while reducing property taxes
Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” she said
She fired employee because he wuold not fire her Brother in law
Yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive;
Yes, she wants creationsim taught
Yes, she did smoke marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska. Yes, she apparently did inhale.
Yes, she likes Federal earmarks
Yes, Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was written by a speechwriter.
Obama writes his OWN speeches
Yes, she did put the governor’s plane on
Yes, Todd Palin did have a DUI. Drunk drivers are not caught every time
Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently does believe that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality.
Lenscrafter Model. The Democrats just don’t get it. When they pass out those type of insults diminishing a woman that was voted Governor of her State and after two years in office is still running with a 80% approval rating they are besmirching large segments of the people they need to get their candidate elected. Apple pie America will spurn those attacks upon people of Faith, conservative ideology but a part of the democratic party and the Democrats that value freedom to hunt , own guns and are stamped as dumb Red Necks by the Urbane Elite. Palin is a lot deeper then the pretense that she is nothing more then a model.
“Nothing on the bridge to nowhere flip and the fact that she’s against earmarks now, but she begged for them before?
Yes, it’s true. No, Republicans are not always consistent.”
Yes, it’s good to continue to support an unnecessary earmark even after you don’t want to – merely for the sake of consistency.
No, you are not allowed to change your mind.
Got it.
Sally, on the “Evangelical Zionist”, I think you might want to look up some of the big words, as what you’re saying doesn’t actually make any sense. “Zionism is an international political movement that regards the Jews as a national entity and seeks to preserve that entity.” (Wikipedia)
Nicatter, since that list is largely cut and pasted from my list above, I’m not quite clear what you’re trying to say. In any case, you seem to be perfectly happy to fret about Todd’s DUI 22 years ago. Are you equally concerned with Obama’s cocaine use 22 years ago? Biden’s plagiarisms? Al Gore III’s drug arrests?
If we’re going to demand of our political candidates not only that they be completely free of taint throughout their entire lives, and whats more that all their friends and associates be free of taint, the potential list of candidates is going to be awfully small, and no fun at parties.
Nine, I’m not getting your point. You seem to be angry that she supported something at one point, then changed her mind; are you saying you’d rather she take the earmarked money and then not changed her mind? Or are you mad that she she didn’t take the money? Or are you just mad?
again you are wrong – There is plenty of DOUBT what was meant.
Obama today even said he was talking about their record and Palin is the lipstick they tried to put to cover up Mcain record .
There was NO money for a bridge
Congress did not fund it or allocate it
BEFORE she was GOv.
Thus there was NOONE or AGENCY to say no to.
It was not a metaphor, it was a SIMILE.
a turd”? I’m not offended. Are you? NO
but they havent backtracked!
because they knew her lipstick joke
and they knew he was able to use libstick in an OLD saying!
you fricking morons
nlclatter,
The lovely the garden must grow beneath your feet as you are so full of what is good for the soil that even in what you write, it pours out.
if she was ugly borad
then yes it could be viewed as insult
If I called Charlize Thereon a pig, people know that it is not meant she is a pig
You can NOT possibly believe that this woman is qualified to run the world if need be. Tell me you would sleep well at night. It is a TERRIFYING proposition.
nlcatter 7:41pm – …and from just what Kos thread did you cut-and-paste this list of inane stupidity?!
I get it now. You guys must be the democrat lackeys. Now it is that she is the lipstick on McCains record? This is like the 15th different excuse now. Nick when you try to defend Obamas pig comment you arent helping your case much by calling any woman a “broad”. But I suppose I shouldnt be surprised that the only supporters Obama bin Biden has left are 12 year old little boys.
Uh, Ed, mostly that list is cut from mine.
Oh, by the way, folks, Jon Favreau (I assume not the director) is Obama’s speechwriter.
That took 10 seconds of google by the way.
I can google too , you moron of a PIG.
“Obama wrote into the night last weekend in a hotel room 15 minutes from his Chicago home. There were no distractions there. And in 2004 he had holed up at a hotel to draft the wildly successful convention speech that catapulted him into national politics.”
on letterman
Keep in mind, technically, had I meant it this way, [Palin] would be the lipstick. The failed policies of John McCain would be the pig, just following the logic of this illogical situation.”
Im not trying to defend it , I applaud it !
you fear the truth
and Ugly broad would have been insulted is the truth.
Palin is out there laughtng
you moron of a PIG.
daily kos?
i also can GOOGLE
you moronic swine.
I am surprised
a poster knew I meant to type broad
not borad or board.
Nick, I think you may need to cut back on the caffeine.
You left out the claim that Palin was Mayor only two years ago (made by the Obama campaign and others) She actually left office some years before.
The reasson may be to hide her period on the Oil and Gas Commission and her subsequent resignation. This looks like it might have been what first really gave her a reputation as a reformer. (or maybe it ws theer already when she ran for Lt. Gov in 2002 and lost)
First of all, great work on this, Charlie.
Although I’m a bit short on details, I thought I’d pass along a rumor my wife hear at work the other day. It was something about Cindy McCain spending some fantastic amount of money on an outfit (dress, shoes, jewelry, etc.)… something to the tune of $250,000??? Her coworker compared this to someone who only spent $150? (Perhaps this was Michelle Obama?) My wife is very outnumbered at work and doesn’t like getting into debates. Hence, the sketchy details. However, it may be worth investigating.
Sammy, I agree, I’ll strengthen that. In general, there seems to have been a strategy to denigrate or ignore her time as Governor, eg, with Obama calling her a small-town mayor, and Biden calling her LIEUTENANT Governor.
I generally agree with Heinlein’s Razor — “stupidity over malice” — but in these things it seems to require a *lot* of stupidity.
Jed, it was a $3000 dress and $500 shoes — plus big diamond earrings. The article says “three carat” but that sounds completely nuts. Minor googling leads to a three carat engagement ring for $15K.
Calling it a “$250,000 outfit” sounds just a little bit disingenuous. I’ll bet anything those earrings aren’t purchased just for that one outfit that one night.
Jed, you asked about MSNBC’s slander of a female dejure – Cindy McCain spending some fantastic amount of money on an outfit (dress, shoes, jewelry, etc.)… something to the tune of $250,000 -
Well it is the sorta true that MSNBC Keith and Matthews specialize in – she was seen in public with the family earlings – diamonds – that are worth near $300,000. The rest of the outfit was the standard ware of the well to do – Shoes in the high hundreds, dress a couple of thousand.
But $250,000 – or $300,000 – makes a much better headline.
Would anyone like to make a friendly bet that since the dems are losing some Hillary supporters to McCain and Palin that they might try to change their VP nomination (if they can–well, even if they can’t) to Hillary instead of genius Joe? Biden recently made a heart-warming speech in which he stated that Senator Clinton would be a fantastic VP and would do a wonderful job…maybe even better than he could do. Sounds a bit like setting the stage to me. If it is possible and it comes to pass, it would be yet another example of poor judgment and the wrong choice by Obama. Even if you believe that the pig/lipstick comment was not directed at Sarah Palin, you must admit Obama used poor judgment in his choice of words, especially in light of Palin’s recent use of the lipstick joke (and quite effectively, I might add) at the RNC. If Obama discards Biden from the presidential ticket, ooops, might that be yet another fine example of Obama’s poor judgment? I’m sure the libs are seriously brainstorming the idea–they can only hope the ballots haven’t been printed yet. Whether or not something like this could ever happen, the fact remains that you don’t always get a second chance to get it right when dealing with world leaders, terrorists, and all the serious issues where poor judgment and/or the wrong decision may have catastrophic consequences. This is true for both democrats and republicans, but it would appear that John McCain’s decisions and choices have been right on target, including his choice of Sarah Palin for VP.
Hey nick–After reading your contributions to this discussion, you may well be the poster child for the leftest wing-nuts. In one of your arguments, you stated, “If I called Charlize Thereon a pig, people know that it is not meant she is a pig.” You have just summed up the liberal mantra in a nutshell. Just because I say something, doesn’t mean I meant it or that it’s the truth. It’s up to others to use their crystal ball and figure it out. Now I know why libs don’t want to be confused with the facts. They refuse to recognize facts as truths. Maybe it’s more fun or convenient to live in a delusional world than to face what’s really real.
Nick, that’s not the way it’s being reported. See, eg, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/28/uselections2008.barackobama
Do you suppose you could provide a link? The story you quoted from appears to say that’s how he drafted the speech some days before it was delivered. Unless you’re telling me that he has all those ppseechwriters and doesn’t use them, I’m guessing that he defined what he wanted to say and they worked it over.
Anyone catch Matt Damon’s remarks wondering if Palin believes that man walked with the Dinosaurs, in an attempt to smear her Religious beliefs.. Great way to hold onto the conservative Religious vote, Matt!!!
Matt Damon Quote “I need to know if she really thinks dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago. That’s an important — I want to know that, I really do, because she’s going to have the nuclear codes. You know, I want to know if she thinks dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago… we can’t, we can’t have that.”
He has the political awareness of Fuffy the possum, at a fur trade show, wondering how much his pelt is worth, while Kitt Carson is lining up his smoke stick on Fluffy’s forehead. The off the cuff elitists that speak for the Democrats , are so far out in left field they haven’t a clue what is happening in CENTER field. Those Democrat spokespersons are so full of themselves, that they haven’t a clue how they dissed all those Christians, Jews and Muslim voters by such ridicule and are now moving to McCain/Palin ticket.
Then another emotional knee jerk elitist (in her own mind) Joy Behr knocking Palin for hunting and how Palin, is cruel for doing so. The hypocrite never figured out her and 97% of the general population eat dead animals. I suppose she would rather the other cruel death regiments in nature take over such as starvation, contagion and winter kill from having to many animals. Send her a memo that man is the only animal control in nature that seeks HUMANE deaths for animals.
To add to the problem Joy
I am a Christian and there was no ridicule
her creationist stand is sign of a MORON
and KOOK,
on the important speech at last convention he worked it himself
im sure he had help this timer
but Palin did not worsdmsith her own
all that was saying was that NOONE even Obama could insulg a pretty women by saying she is a pig even if he tried!
unless he was talking about you.
well you better hope I know facts or
our GIs will have guided bombs and missile that will NOT get to their destination.
Mccain praised Senator Obama for his “outstanding” work as a community organiser – a profession derided by Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin at the Republican convention in St Paul last week.
Poor Nick. It isn’t a castigation of community services that they are pointing out when they mention it. It is the fact that a State Organizer is being ridiculed by a community organizer that works with dis-organizers like Bill Ayers that is the stumbling block. You seem to have a very hard time to put things together. BTW, the State Organizer did more then state “PRESENT” when ever important Legislation was before her.
Nick “nick:
I am a Christian and there was no ridicule
her creationist stand is sign of a MORON
and KOOK,”
You poor Soul. You have the debating skills of a Do Do Bird and are totally unaware of how badly you hurt your cause by ridiculing,Jews, Christians, Native Americans and Muslims that do believe in “God the Creator.”
In fact this is what one of today’s leading Scientists thinks of your claim.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article673663.ece .
You lose by the way because this guy isn’t a kook nor were many of the faith based Scientist. This guy was a obnoxious atheist by his own words but unlocking the Human Genome from his LEAD SCIENTIST position on research into the Human Genome, has made a believer out of him.
And another look at why he realized the intricate weaving of life & the support we need are deeper then mere random evolution.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2006/08/07/findrelig.DTL
Science and religion have long had an uneasy relationship, at best. But Dr. Francis S. Collins believes the two can coexist happily and that a scientist can worship God equally well in a cathedral or a laboratory.
Dr. Francis S. Collins, who led the Human Genome Project,…Cover of “The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence…
BTW, cave drawings and museums are filled with pre-historic imagery of man walking the planet with ???????? Dinosaurs.
Neither you nor Matt Damon are politically aware of just how ridiculing Faith based Creations/hunters/gun owners/Red Necks and small town America is destroying the middle base of the Democrats. According to the Democrats they are supposed to be the party of free choice in all aspects of life unless of course you believe differently then their left wing elitists think and then they will marginalize you by calling you are moron and a kook and offering legislation to strip the kook’s rights away.
Moderator please post this one, I hit the enter button while trying to proof the last one.
“Jed:
First of all, great work on this, Charlie.
Although I’m a bit short on details, I thought I’d pass along a rumor my wife hear at work the other day. It was something about Cindy McCain spending some fantastic amount of money on an outfit (dress, shoes, jewelry, etc.)… something to the tune of $250,000??? Her coworker compared this to someone who only spent $150? (Perhaps this was Michelle Obama?) My wife is very outnumbered at work and does’t like getting into debates. Hence, the sketchy details. However, it may be worth investigating.” Sep 11, 2008 – 1:14 pm
I say BIG DEAL!
Listen it’s not your money or my money, it’s hers.
Worry more about those who want to spend your money and mine for us. McCain is for line item vetoes and the end to “tag on spending” that is put on bills pushed through the house and the senate, (ear marks.) Obama wants more government spending. Sorry but that is money I worked hard fore and earned honestly.
And how dare anybody criticize Cindy about spending some of her own money on herself. Don’t you know anything about this woman??? She is one the most charitable people in America, not only with her money, but also her time.
I just love the videos of her in third world countries showing her in jeans and t-shirts. She has been generous and caring way before the political stage. Her caring is real and comes from her heart.
Obama wants to take money from others to give to those who don’t have it. Check into how much of his own money he gave to charity before it became politically expedient for him to do so. Ask his half bother who lives on a dollar a month how charitable he is.
One example of his charity: He got a lot of TAX money, (translated your money and mine,) for the hospital his wife works at, (as an administrator,) and her salary jumped from $100,000.00 to $300,000.00 within a month. How charitable!
Learn about Cindy McCain’s charity, and see for yourself how she is likely to spend her years in the white house.
If we get McCain the White house, we get two very special ladies in there with him, and…
we defeat the messiah of socialism.
Enjoy you day and spend your own money, and let other people spend theirs, while you MYOB.
Donnie Mac Leod:
Obama campaign praised Palin, did not
ridicule thsuwe you ara another GOD DAMN GOP LIAR GDGL for short
Mcain voted present 30%
while Barack voted present 3% our of 4000 votes, she doesnt even vote at GOV – FGDGL
I repeat
I am a Christian and I can say that someone who believes in creationism is a MORON.
your LEADING SCIENTIST SAYS
I see God’s hand at work through the mechanism of evolution
not CREATIONSIM like moron Palin.
Robin (and Charlie):
First of all, please understand, I’m on the same page with you. I was looking for the truth about this claim and I wasn’t trying to be critical of the McCains. There’s no doubt Cindy McCain (or anyone else) can spend her money how she chooses. Simply, if I’ve heard this rumor, perhaps others would have the same question. Granted, it wasn’t a Palin rumor, but a rumor just the same.
My wife is one of the few McCain supporters at her work. Her coworker had made this claim in order to slam McCain. (ie, he’s too rich to be a good president) I simply wanted to know if anyone knew the real story and pass this along to my wife.
Thanks, Charlie, for setting the record straight.
Jed
I repeat again Dr Collins is not a CREATIONIST!
jh Christ, how stupid are you!
mccain is for line item vetos.
they are UNCONSTITuTIONAL
you are such morons!
you all are afraid of facts? that she spends so much on luxury ?
and she only adopted 1 baby! she didnt adopt an orphanage!
Nick, thanks for demonstrating to the readers that comments, no matter how stupid or illiterate, generally aren’t moderated off PJM.
Jed, I didn’t take you to be attacking Cindy, and I apologize for making it seem so.
What I can’t figure out is the $250,000 part. I’m beginning to suspect that they are $25,000 ear rings — that’s more or less consisten with the “three carat” part — and someone added a zero.
Nickie dearest. You miss the point. The Lead Scientist believes God created life and some evolution took place after the fact. You weren’t fortunate enough to get the required evolutionary program to raise your level of reading comprehension and cognition.
Hello Charlie”"
I think Nick is a prime example of Bob Hope’s astute observation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfea6IWiYu0
That aside , Mat Damon, Nickie Dearest and the others that are so vehement against Palins, Apple Pie American lifestyle are alienating the conservative , 2nd amendment supportive , Blue collar workers, ridiculed Red Necks and Christians, within the political process.
Jed:
I was thinking of the co-worker. I am sorry if I lam-blasted to generally. It made me mad.
Just a few short years ago, I lived in below poverty conditions in order to invest every penny possible in my husband’s business, which we started from the ground up. After eight years of living that way, most of our business debt is paid off and we have built our dream home. Last year we had a household income of $200K. We went from just $8k to $200K in less than ten years. After 8 years in a single-wide trailer I now live in a my dream house.
I am shocked at the jealously and hatred I am experiencing from people. People who know us are happy for us. They see how we share our good fortune and blessings, but strangers can be so mean.
I shopped for many years at the thrift stores, and I will not tolerate people judge me on how I spend my money now.
Cindy’s father started from the ground up. This is America. Hard work and sacrifice has enable this family to obtain the American dream. Cindy was fortunate to be born into the family and is generous with her money and time both. She personally has volunteered her time in over 55 two week long missions in third world conditions.
Let’s see this co-worker and Nick obtain the American dream, and see what they do with the money. No fancy clothes or CARS right? If this co-worker had the financial stability that Cindy has and was going to appear before millions of people live on stage and TV, wouldn’t he/she love to be able to find the just right outfit and even have to ask the price before saying, “I take it.”
It is jealousy pure and simple. Let these “rich” people spend their own money on clothes, homes, and hair cuts. If they want to appear foolish and leave millions in their will for their dog, (Oprah,) let them. Be happy for them!
The jealous people just need to get over it and go about making the American dream happen for themselves.
Just so they aren’t to disappointed when they reach it, stand warned: Between federal income tax, social security tax and medicare, (business owners pay twice as much,) state tax, local privilege taxes, sales tax, and property tax- half our household income is spent each year on taxes. Let the dems raise taxes further, and striving for the American dream will be a waist of time.
oops:
wouldn’t he/she love to be able to find the just right outfit and NOT even have to ask the price before saying, “I’ll take it.”
Hey nick: This one’s for you, my poor misguided venom-spewing, radical, leftist poster-child wing-nut. Are you a gambling man? Would you or anyone else like to make a friendly wager that since the dems are losing some Hillary supporters to McCain and Palin that they might try to change their VP nomination (if they can; well, even if they can’t) to Hillary instead of genius Joe? Biden recently made a heart-warming speech in which he stated that Senator Clinton would be a fantastic VP and would do a wonderful job…maybe even better than he could do. Sounds a bit like setting the stage to me. If it is possible and it comes to pass, it would be yet another example of poor judgment and the wrong choice by Obama. Even if you believe that the pig/lipstick comment was not directed at Sarah Palin, you must admit Obama used poor judgment in his choice of words, especially in light of Palin’s recent use of the lipstick joke (and quite effectively, I might add) at the RNC. If Obama discards Biden from the presidential ticket, ooops, might that be yet another fine example of Obama’s poor judgment? I’m sure the libs are seriously brainstorming the idea–they can only hope the ballots haven’t been printed yet. Whether or not something like this could ever happen, the fact remains that you don’t always get a second chance to get it right when dealing with world leaders, terrorists, and all the serious issues where poor judgment and/or the wrong decision may have catastrophic consequences. This is true for both democrats and republicans, but it would appear that John McCain’s decisions and choices have been right on target, including his choice of Sarah Palin for VP.
I for one, have had my fill of the pig and the lipstick phenomena, but I must ask you, nick, about one of your riveting arguments in which you stated, “If I called Charlize Thereon a pig, people know that it is not meant she is a pig.” You have just summed up the liberal mantra in a nutshell. Just because I say something, doesn’t mean I meant it or that it’s the truth. It’s up to others to use their crystal ball and figure it out. Now I know why libs don’t want to be confused with the facts. They refuse to recognize facts as truths. Maybe it’s more fun or more convenient to live in the gray area of a delusional world than to face what’s really real.
I also think you summed it up beautifully when you said in one of your more astute comments of Sept 10, 2008, that “…because they knew her lipstick joke and they knew he was able to use libstick in an OLD saying! you fricking morons.” Good one, nick, libstick is a great subliminal slip of the fingers, but I think it’s spelled libshtick, meaning an entertaining slapstick routine by the far-left wing-nut circus clowns.
My family gives a BIGGER % of my money to support orphans around the world and we didnt get it from DADDY!
The lead scientist is NOT a creationist
what part of NOT cant you feeble mind comprehend!
we dont want racist rednext creationist voting for Obama, (well yes we do, but know winning lotto is easier) we are showing the rest of the world what kind of racist PIGS with lipstick, you all are.
there is a difference in being in Poverty and living in poverty becasue your cash flow is being invested.
thanks realitycheq for introducing a modicume of truth among these morons.
did they catch the error?
if your people are too stupid to understand similes, metaphors, analogies – too bad !
McCain has no clue, with family history. senate salary, NAVY salary, oh and wifes millions he has no concept of how middle class lives. he thinks Obamas house at 1.2 million is pretty lame .
it was fun but no more lying, book burning, cerationsit Palin
I got to go to Mccain blogs, the man with no morals.
Charlie,
Thank you so much for your list. I am stuck here at work until 6am, and I have enjoyed passing some time by reading all about the Palin rumors.
The comments have been a hoot! I am 50 years old, and I haven’t heard the word MORON used this much since grammar school. It reminds me why I don’t usually post in forums- I hate name calling!
links, cheq? Writing in ALL CAPS isn’t convincing; links are convincing.
Here you go Reality Check. Your reading comprehension missed the most important portion of his claim which coincides with My input.
Francis Collins felt God was the Creator who used evolution as a means of continuing His creation. From your own link.
Francis Collins::: “I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don’t see why that’s such a bad idea. That’s pretty amazingly creative on His part. And what is wrong with that as a way of putting together in a synthetic way the view of God who is interested in creating a group of individuals that He can have fellowship with — us? Why is evolution not an appropriate way to get to that goal? I don’t see a problem with that.
So in Collins mind God is the Creator using evolution to be a part of His Creation.
http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm
Bradshaws cave drawings
cheq, you’re being a damn fool. You’ve made a bunch of specific assertions. You haven’t documented them. Put up or shut up, or even better, both.
Sarah is Sprio Agnew in Panty hose.
Actually his own words describe a creator that is using evolution to develop His Creation. Maybe you didn’t quite get a grasp of the whole article because you didn’t read it all.
Francis Collins::: “I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don’t see why that’s such a bad idea. That’s pretty amazingly creative on His part. And what is wrong with that as a way of putting together in a synthetic way the view of God who is interested in creating a group of individuals that He can have fellowship with — us? Why is evolution not an appropriate way to get to that goal? I don’t see a problem with that.
So in Collins mind God is the Creator using evolution to be a part of His Creation.
Gee Reality ,maybe Collins wasn’t part of their ideology because he believes that God created but evolution was a major portion of His creation, whereas,Walt Ruloff, they believe evolution played a lesser portion in His Creation. None of that negates that Both Groups, think He is the CREATOR.
Charles: You must love Palin, because all you do is apologise for her. She is by far the biggest pile of crap replacement for the biggest pile of crap this country has ever seen in office.
lol…
Palin may not be the first or only person ever to do all that stuff even you admit she’s done, but that does not make it ok. Our leaders should not be average, but extraordinary. She is NOT extraordinary at all. She’s just different in appearance than the usual fare…period…
I don’t want a tattooed, shotgun married, AK47 totin, BOUNTY ON WOLF FOREARMS SETTING,Polar bear and woman hating (rape victims pay for own rape kits until STATE created legislation against it based on her behavior as the mayor of WAsilla),money grubbing, can’t set proper example for daughter, “wide eyed liberal”/alcohol sodden driver loser husband having, son going into the military to escape legal charges having, TWITCHY LEFT EYE being bitch in the white house. She can’t run her own family for God’s sake. She’ll destroy this country…heck, she could be in the midst of post partum psychosis for all we know…that would explain a LOT.
but y’all go ahead…
Hey annje–Congratulations! You are yet another perfect candidate for the leftist wing-nut poster child. A+ for Diatribe; F- for Factual. It’s frightening to think people like you may determine our next president.
Annje: “She can’t run her own family for God’s sake. She’ll destroy this country…heck, she could be in the midst of post partum psychosis for all we know…that would explain a LOT.”
Neither Hillery nor Bill could control his compulsive deceits in his marriage. Even Monica Lewinzky dress hasn’t deterred Democrats from defending both of them while attacking a 17 year old girl for her transgressions. Mighty strange. Does anyone believe that Bristol didn’t have the desire and smarts to hide her sexual activities from her mom. Hell I hid my sex drive from both my parents and I doubt that many North American parents could tell a much different story then myself or Bristol Palin. Spare the self righteous indignation because most North American’s can thank their lucky stars that they escaped the eagle eye of the Political hacks though they carried out the same activity as Bristol Palin. I think the big story is that both Palin parents despite the timing which couldn’t be worse for their family, have supported their daughter with unconditional love.
What red-blooded real American man wouldn’t like Sarah Palin? Only those who are wimps and possibly closeted homos. She’s smart, good looking, down to earth, has a great figure, can look you in the eye and tell you something you don’t necessarily want to hear (how many of you have imagined her as your teacher or mom telling you to go to the corner or else…???hmmm???), and let’s face it, she’s a MILF. God, if only she was running with Ron Paul, what a ticket that would be. As it is, I am going to vote for her and what’s his name.LOL Joking. McCain has his agendas, true enough, but I think the more I learn about him the better I understand him. Yes, I know a lot of it is put on and propaganda and sleight of hand tactics on the multitudes, but there is some depth to him. I don’t care for Obama for many reasons, but will not name call or anything, I just simply will not vote for him. Besides, as if it really matters who we want in the WH. All that matters is who the true powers that be want in the Oval office. Don’t kid yourself into believing that what we, the people, really want or who we want in the WH.
i guess you and your fox interns do their research … though i still believe that she eats other peoples babies although she does not digest them, she purges. then evil witches fly right out of her head,with the the help of an African priest. she’s perfect for the job. i always vote for the naughty librarian,i’ll spend money without regard party.
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