Science as a Glorious, Skeptical Enterprise
Good science is a Darwinian enterprise. Only the best ideas survive and spread over the long run, because they pass test after test after test. Everybody tries to shoot holes in them. In good science, bad ideas are knocked down in the nastiest, meanest, knock-down, drag-out fight this side of the Spanish Inquisition.
Bad ideas get trashed in good science. If you doubt it, just read James Watson on the heated fight with Linus Pauling over the structure of DNA. Craig Venter outraged the competition by discovering the human genome three years before they expected to get there. Or see what Isaac Newton said about Leibniz. It gets nasty.
That’s for healthy science, which is not a list of orthodox beliefs, but more like an endless, running debating club. You could tell that global warming was in trouble the moment that James Hansen, NASA’s chief climate astrologer and enforcer of The Faith, said that “climate deniers” should be put in jail.
Good science is full of “deniers,” who are also called “skeptics.” I’ve never met a scientist who wasn’t one. Albert Einstein was a lifelong skeptic about quantum mechanics. Nobody wanted to throw him in jail. Einstein was (and still is) admired for the brilliance of his skepticism. When somebody wants to jail a skeptic you know their favorite orthodoxy is tottering and about to slip down some rat hole. James Hansen was seeing the end of the global warming fraud, and he was afraid.
Climate alarmism is now destined for history’s garbage heap, as it should be. It never made any sense. Even Science magazine — which was run by a close friend of doomsayer Paul Ehrlich until last year — has suddenly dropped any mention of global warming. No more climate change, all of a sudden! Problem solved.
To preserve the truth about the global warming fraud, the Library of Congress should copy the whole Science magazine database, which still has all those old alarmist headlines. (Try it at Sciencemag.org.) The propaganda arm of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), called Eurekalert.org, also has thousands of global warming press releases, all written to squeeze your tax dollars down to the last penny. If you want to see the money machine behind global warming, you have to visit Eurekalert. Because today the real Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith isn’t in the Vatican — it’s in Science and Nature magazines.
But what about the threat of raging mobs of Creationist Christians brandishing Bibles? For the real scientists, who cares? If you understand Darwinian theory you’ll like it, because it explains an awful lot about animals and plants, like the amazing resemblances between house cats and African lions — or the very subtle differences between dogs and wolves. (Guess which one doesn’t bark, and why.) If some person of faith then tells you that God made it all, if you don’t share their faith, don’t make a fuss — unless, that is, you harbor secret doubts.
Real scientists don’t throw heretics in jail. They are bound to respect rational skeptics, because everybody is a skeptic.
Which is why it’s so weird to see militant atheism coming from the likes of Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens, both true believers of the left. They are on a militant crusade just like Peter the Hermit. Charles Darwin himself never felt the need to go out and jail skeptics. As for Dawkins and Hitchens, methinks those laddies do protest too much.
There are at least two strong, positive arguments to be made for teaching Creationism in biology classes.
1. Creationism is the real intellectual background of Darwinian theory.
Creationism is where Charles Darwin got started, and you can’t understand The Origin of Species — a very beautiful book, by the way — without understanding those arguments. You also can’t understand why it was so hard for other naturalists at the time, who knew the same facts, to come to Darwin’s conclusions. Darwin had great intellectual courage, and you don’t get that by sticking to orthodoxy.
2. Science is a Darwinian enterprise.
But even more important, to understand biology you have to argue biology. You can’t do that unless you see the pros and cons. Darwin never thought all the evidence was in his favor, because he had a very deep understanding of the facts. Darwin was an amazing observer. He learned from the behavior of his dogs, from seeing earthworms in his garden, from talking to animal breeders and farmers. He thought the overall weight of evidence favored “descent by variation and selection of the fittest.”
But as a naturalist Darwin loved to wonder about the questions he couldn’t quite resolve. Some of those puzzles are still unanswered. They are fascinating, and real biologists think about them. We still don’t understand how new species arise; we see mutations, all right, but speciation continues to be an incomplete story.
Biological dogmas are overthrown all the time. Crick and Watson called their understanding of DNA “the basic dogma of molecular biology.” Calling it a “dogma” was a little joke. They understood that like other scientific beliefs, it was likely to be overthrown in the future. And guess what? The “basic dogma of molecular biology” has now been found to be flawed. Science is fun.
I have a suspicion about repetitive media alarm that somebody might be teaching Creationism in the schools: It comes from people who don’t understand Darwin. If they did, they would trust the evidence. All the hysteria about Creationism is batty because Darwinian theory is taught in every biology class in every high school and college in the world. There’s no lack of evolutionary theory in the classrooms. So the fear of Creationism is just a little weird.
To teach biology you have to encourage students to learn all sides of an argument. Kids should see science as an adventure. Adventures are open-ended. You don’t know the ending when you start. It’s got danger and excitement and thrills. You get forbidden ideas and unexpected facts. Suppose the earth were flat? How do I know it’s not? Suppose God created the first human being? How do I know if it’s true or not? If you can’t figure out the answers, you haven’t learned how to do science. You’ve only memorized a catechism. Our trouble is that we teach Darwinism as a catechism, when we should be teaching it as an adventure.
Richard Feynman used to say that if you can’t explain physics to a six-year old you don’t really understand it. He meant that you can take physics apart piece by piece and make everything so simple and clear that anyone who bothers to pay attention should be able to get it. You only get that if you think about all the pros and cons with the kind of love and attention that an artist devotes to looking at colors, textures, and shadings to see how they set each other off.
That’s why Creationism is important for biology students. I don’t think Creationism is scientifically satisfying, because it explains too much, and the explanation always sounds post-hoc. But kids need to play with it to understand why both sides are important.
And whether it’s true in the long run — who knows? Allow that shiver of doubt. It’s good for you.






woah, that’s a good change
Creationism makes sense when you apply it to the problem its intuition is really about: not the origin of the physical universe, but the origin of language and religion. What sounds post-hoc are Darwinian attempts to explain the “evolution” of language and religion. But how could these have just silently “evolved”? We had to evolve the capacity for language, yes. But surely there is one moment in time when there is no language and no religion, and then another when there is. What does that transitional event of “Creation” entail, that moment in time when one can begin to speak of moments in time? If you’re unsatisfied with the existing attempts to explain language/religion in biological-evolutionary terms, as one should be, you might come instead to consider the need for a hypothesis of a memorable origin of our unique linguistic species in a public, hence religiously ritualizable, event at which either man created himself and “God”, or God created “man”. The discipline of Generative Anthropology pursues such a hypothesis.
Sorry, i have to disagree.
Science is the art of trying to describe nature by theory. Since man is not perfect, all theory necessary is not perfect. That is why no serious scientist would ever claim his theory to be true, even the best theory is only an approximation, an generalisation of how a small part of the whole might work. A theory can never be proven, only falsified or improved.
Creationism on the other hand is based on a foundation of belief, a creationist has a world view based on the biblical story of creation and is not ready to question that belief, instead coming up with a “theory” of how observed reality might somehow be explained without violating his set of beliefs. Creationism is therefore based on a belief that the creationist is not ready to have challenged.
Thats not science, thats bogus.
Marxism claims to be science too. Yet Marx first had the idea of class warfare, then explained human history according to his pre-set beliefs. Heck, even Nazi Racism claimed to be science!
Tech science in science class and religion in religion class.
Socialism has from its early days claimed to be based on science rather than religion. So today, all marxian notions are declared to be scientific, and we have science subjucated to the service of politics, statism. As I have said, we live in an age of superstition, though said superstition is called science…
#3 Zaza
Isaac Newton, Renee Descartes, even Galileo would say you’re off track. Trying to discern the hand of God in physical science is/ was an exercise of all the greatest minds until the left took over education.
Interesting. However, there are many critical break points in biology:
How/why did the first living thing-single celled AND CAPABLE OF REPRODUCTION- come into being?
(For life, a living entity had to come into being. Even if that was a random act in the universe, why did that living thing have the capability to reproduce? Or were there perhaps millions of “one-off” living single celled entities which have also randomly been created but without the capability to reproduce?)
How/why did that living thing reproduce?
How/why did organisms become multi-celled. What was the advantage?
How/Why did organs within the multi-celled arise?
More important than biology- We live in a time constrained environment- there is cause and effect, one thing follows another. Logically, this can’t be completely true because there can never be a first cause. There can’t be a big-bang to start the universe unless there’s something to cause it. So, either there are things within our existence/universe which don’t require causation or there is an alternate universe/reality where time constraints and cause/effect don’t exist which caused ours.
Hitchenson isn’t a scientist. Placing him with Richard Dawkins because they share an atheistic view isn’t fair. It would be akin to people lumping all religious people into the same cluster as those West Burro Baptist folks.
Also, Bill #5, your supposition isn’t fair. We can not try and determine how the prior greats minds would respond if they understood the world in the same fashion we did now. Newton would never support the notion of Quantum Mechanics yet today, we use it every day by utilizing GPS. Heck, Newton wouldn’t didn’t understand or know about electricity, nuclear fission, or even have an inkling of the shear size of the universe that we are now witness to thanks to the Hubble Telescope. Under your logic, one could look and Dawkins and say that he would have been a Christian if he had been born in Newtons time and place.
styrgwillidar #6
The Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution. The Big Bang is basically the concept of Conservation of Momentum.
And finally, not only is Creationism a fake science, its bad Christian Theology. Why would the vast majority of Christians (Roman Catholics) turn away from it if it wasn’t?
@ Bill(#5): You’re close. The goal of science — “Natural Philosophy” as it was called back then, was not to discern the hand of God, but to figure out God’s rule book. Newton decided the rules for moving bodies were F = ma and F = GMm/r*r. Maxwell decided the rules for electricity and magnetism could be written as four equations. Darwin decided the rules for the ongoing change of living things were based in random variation and natural selection.
Are these the last words in the rule book? No. Newton’s laws have already been shown to be incomplete, as have Maxwell’s field equations. Biology has a few more pages in the rule book than Darwin thought. Big deal.
The main premise in science, or in “Natural Philosophy”, is that nature, or God, works by rules. These rules can be learned by humans.
Creationists, on the other hand, believe in a god so feckless, he has to step in and patch the system on a regular basis.
DIablo,
My point was, that apart from considering God in terms of biology and evolution, there are other areas of the sciences where critical questions can draw in theology as an explanation.
The Big Bang becomes quite a bit more complicated than coservation of momentum. Conservation of matter, energy, our current understanding of entropy etc. etc. etc. Even if you argue it’s cyclical you come to the same question- what started it all? I’m not arguing that a deity did, I’m simply pointing out that with a cause/effect scientific approach there are some interesting issues to be explored.
To clarify semantics- I define science as man’s pursuit of knowledge of the workings of the universe by empirical methods. I.E. physical evidence which can be shown to others and verified. So, while I tend to agree that creationism isn’t science, that’s predicated on no one having produced empirical evidence. If they do, I’ll have to accept it.
#8 Karl
Not to be disagreeable but those are only semantic differences unless you claim they took the hand of God for granted which may be possible. The point is that minds such as the ones mentioned never separated scientific inquiry from their faith. The already shopworn notion that scientists must be atheists to conduct bias-free inquiry limits the creativity that leads to the great discoveries. Before I get skewered for suggesting creativity has anything to do with science, allow me to note that Einstein, who was no atheist, said that imagination was the premium quality of minds- not intelligence. Nothing illustrates this more than Marilyn Vos Savant who claims the world’s highest IQ, yet to my knowledge has done nothing more than pen a somewhat intriguing column for Parade magazine.
Several of the comments made here are strikingly ignorant of Creationism.
As the article points out, you can’t really criticize something if you haven’t actually studied it.
Several of the people made comments about Creationism that have obviously never done any study of it other than maybe to read some atheist’s critique of it.
Creationism is science. The trouble is that today most people define science as atheistic. Atheism and science are no more joined at the hip than beer and football. When many people think of beer, they also think of football and when they think of football, they think of beer. But the two really have nothing to do with one another. We have just been programmed like robots to think that way from years of commercials.
The same is true of Science and atheism. They are not one and the same thing or even twins.
I would challenge you actually read some of the scientific papers written by Creationists, not papers written about them.
A good example would be when you are watching a courtroom drama and after you have heard the prosecution’s argument you are absolutely sure that the accused is guilty. Then you hear the lawyer for the defence and then find out he’s innocent.
I would submit that most of the commenters here have not actually read any arguments for the defence of Creationism.
Styrgwilliar- But to even question what started the Big Bangs implies that you do not possess an understanding of the Theory. This is akin to asking what is South of the South Pole. Its a logical fallacy. Furthermore, the concept of the Big Bang is completely based on Conservation of Momentum. We know through observation of the galaxies around us, not only their speed in reference to us, but also their direction. Due to Red Shift, we understand that these galaxies are for most part speeding away from us, hence the expanding universe model. Now since we all at least acknowledge the concept of momentum, we can easily determine that all the galaxies are moving from the same single point…its literally as simple as connecting the dots. Now the interesting thing is the singularity point (which then calls into the other concepts you mentioned)…but since everything in the universe was contained in it (not only energy and matter but also time, gravity, ect) there is no logical fashion that one can come to a conclusion that this was the start of anything. Even then, the Big Bang does nothing to violate Catholic dogma. Heck, the theory was original proposed by a Catholic Priest (just like Genetic Traits were discovered by a Catholic Monk.)There is simply no evidence that this was THE beginning and religious fallacy like Creationism, which doesn’t even represent a simple majority of Christian thought, has no place getting forced feed onto children in a science classroom.
The greatest quality for a scientist is an open mind, because he/she must be able to follow the evidence where it leads regardless of preconceived notions. For scientist of the past such as Newton, Galileo and even Darwin, that they may have believed in a creator did not prevent them from accepting what they saw in nature. No matter what is found in nature, a belief in God is still possible for those who believe they are seeing the blueprint and laws that God created.
Quite the opposite are those who do not believe in God, who are unable to accept evidence that may support such belief. They often toss out evidence they find incompatible with their world view. Whereas for those who believe in God, it would incompatible to their belief in God to deny such.
Believers may not like new scientific discoveries, but if they can be proved properly they will be assimilated into their understanding of God. Their worldview is not dependent on science, but atheist too often find their worldview is quite dependent on science.
Self-preservation and an open mind do not go together too well, which is why the global warming issue progressed as it did. Too many scientist, had too much money, their credibility and their worldviews at stake to allow good science to take place. How many scientist would lose credibility if modern evolutionist theory was similarly tossed aside? So it must be preserved no matter what good science might say.
“I have a suspicion about repetitive media alarm that somebody might be teaching Creationism in the schools: It comes from people who don’t understand Darwin. If they did, they would trust the evidence.”
Exactly. If you’re introduced to Darwinian evolution by a biology teacher who truly understands the basics of Darwinian theory (and hey, not all of them do — some of them just blindly parrot the Darwinian catechism themselves), you fall in love with the compelling simplicity of the evolutionary mechanism and the abundance of evidence. You walk away thinking that, even if God did not invent evolution, He should have.
As Karl (#8) pointed out, someone who believed in “Creationism: (as opposed to merely believing that the Judeo-Christian God is the Creator) *is* believing in a pretty feckless God (Far Side: “These things are easy to make!”) As bill (#10) pointed out, there’s no need for scientists to be atheists in order to conduct honest inquiry, and discerning the hand of God in nature is the task that has sparked the imagination of many a great scientist — and science is most certainly an imaginative endeavor.
An aside: It might interest other Christians to know that the early church didn’t require adherents to take the Creation story literally, and that, in fact, many early Christian apologists and theologians didn’t (I think Clement of Alexandria, Basil the Great, and Augustine might make this list of non-literalists). What they saw in the Creation story was a “true myth”, a metaphor for Man’s relation to God and Creation powerful enough to reveal the truth of being human in God’s creation. That is, Genesis was read more like the Psalms than it was like the Gospels. To me, “Creation Science” or Creationism isn’t just bad science, but also bad religion: it distracts from the core Christian truths of the Incarnation and Resurrection; it even detracts from the church’s saving mission — there are a lot of devout Christians out there who believe in evolution, and don’t know quite what to make of that sneaking worry that other Christians might believe that believing in evolution precludes one from being a “real” Christian, or (what’s perhaps more likely) that their non-Christian acquaintances will disdain them for being “anti-evolutionists” simply because they’re Christian.
Returning to the science, as Mr Lewis quite correctly pointed out, to do science right, you have to understand why Creationism is bad science, and that requires some knowledge of Creationism. In order to understand relativity, you have to understand what Newtonian mechanics lacks. It usually takes pretty bright college students (the physics majors) at least a whole semester of intense study of Newtonian mechanics to even begin to appreciate what, exactly, Newtonian mechanics lacks. Likewise, the biology student approaches non-Mendelian inheritance by first learning Mendelian inheritance, for only then can he appreciate what it means to have questions that the Mendelian model can’t rightly answer. This is the exciting part about science. As Mr Lewis said, this is the adventure.
As the song goes, “God made man, but he used the monkey to do it”. Isn’t that amazing? Isn’t that a miracle, even? Science is the great adventure of the mind. And to a believer, doing good science is an act of worship.
Creationism is not science.
Tell me, believers, how is creationism falsified?
What evidence, or set of conditions would convince you that creationism is wrong?
If there answer is nothing, then you do not have a scientific theory, only a religious belief.
I have always said we should make mention of the world on the back of a turtle theory in geology and the beings on mt Olympus theory in political science, what say ye nobles of the magical interweb?
Good article, Mr. Lewis. Neither Darwinism nor Creationism can answer all the questions. Assume the planet is 4 billion years old then consider the evolution of the eye. Not enough time has passed since the first life on Earth to today’s present condition of species for this to be explained by Darwinism alone. On the other hand, where did Mrs. Cain and Mrs. Abel come from?
From a very literal standpoint the Biblical description of creation is preposterous. From a more figurative perspective the creation story is remarkably accurate. The Genesis story was probably first recorded over 4,000 years ago and was likely taken from an even older verbal account. How did ancient man “know” that first there was nothingness, then light and darkness, then the seas, then the firmament and that plants preceded animals and animals preceded man? This pretty much jibes with what we think we “know” today.
For the record, I’m quite the believer in evolution. Evolution was taught in grade school. When I took comparative vertebrate zoology in college my belief in evolution was reinforced. Unfortunately Darwin’s theories are inadequate to explain evolution or the origin of species.
I once had a colleague who was a devout Seventh Day Adventist and firm believer in literal Biblical creationism. This guy maintained the world was only 4,000 years old. He drove me nuts. He had ridiculous explanations for things like dinosaurs. For myself…I can reconcile by belief in God and my belief in evolution.
@Bill (#10): I suspect most of he scientists, at least before about the beginning of the 20th Century, assumed the hand of God. Otherwise, why try to figure out God’s rule book?
Certainly, Newton grew up in an environment where God’s hand was assumed. I believe Darwin went to seminary and was training for the priesthood.
You can have a universe running on mechanistic rules, and still believe in an Author and Rule Maker. Up until the last century when philosophical materialism became popular, it was assumed there was in fact a Rule Maker. Now the main question seems to be whether the rules themselves had a beginning. But that’s a whole ‘nother essay.
Diablo,
Perhaps I am bit dense in understanding you. I accept that there is significant evidence supporting the Big Bang theory, and no fatal evidence against it. I’m not arguing against it. But I do think it is valid to ask what came prior to the Big Bang, what led up to it? If it wasn’t “the beginning” what is? To say at a certain point that everything exploded into being and is expanding doesn’t explain, the why/how it happened. Even if initially contained in a single point, how/why did it get there? Where did it come from? You can point to a deity, or you can come up with a theory and start trying to test it.
I am not arguing for or against creationism. My position is that based on my definition of science, it should not be taught as science without presenting empirical evidence supporting it. Just as those teaching evolution, as mentioned above, need to present the evidence and respond to criticism and continue to explore implications.
Now for where I disagree with James Lewis:
I’m not totally opposed to teaching creationism in science classes, any more than I oppose teaching flat earth theory, phlogiston theory, or the unfavorable astrological aspects theory of disease (whence comes the word “influenza”). But I’d teach them in order to illustrate where they fail. I’m not convinced the average high school or grade school science teacher is up to the task. Most of them seem to have learned about science rather than learning science. They teach evolution, or germ theory, or gravitation, or electricity as they do because that’s what it says in the textbook.
But to be fair, they may not have much knowledge about science, but they did spend their years in college learning how to impart the knowledge they don’t have.
The big problem with the creationist movement is that it’s not a scientific movement — it’s a political movement, very much the way the Anthropogenic Global Warming movement is a political movement. What science is brought forth is carefully selected and edited to make a political case — teach relion as proven science.
If I were a science teacher in high school, I’d be thrilled to teach “both sides” of the “controversy”, be it evolution, AGW, or even the tattered ideas of the “Flat Earth Society”. I’m not sure how well the advocates of these ideas would like the way I treat them, though.
The problem is that what we think of as science today has become bureaucratized, and many we think of as scientists are really just bureaucrats – with the typical appetite for funding and prestige of the breed.
See “The war on the weather”:
http://vulgarmorality.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/the-war-on-the-weather/
@ styrgwillidar (19):
There have been speculations about what came before the big bang. Terry Pratchett suggests a voice saying, “A one. Two. A one, two, three, and–”
The big question about the big bang is, was the big bang a change in the rules, or were there prevailing rules that gave rise to the big bang? If the big bang was a singularity and the laws of the universe originated in that instant, there’s no point asking what came before. (St. Augustine apparently answered the same way when asked what God was doing before he created the universe. Since time was created along with the universe, there’s no “before” to ask about.)
On the other hand, if the big bang is the result of some process that periodically gives rise to universes, then maybe those laws would have some effect on how our universe unfolded. And maybe we could propose tests to see if our speculations are upheld or have to be thrown out. Certainly, if something caused the big bang, then it follows that there was a “before” with stuff happening, and some of that stuff may have had an effect on what we see around us. If we know where to look.
Theorists are coming up with models that may yield testable results, but the jury is still out.
Karl Lembke (22)
Exactly!! Thanks. You get to the heart of what I was trying to say initially. That given our understanding of the rules (time/cause/effect); either those rules didn’t apply at some point— or we’re missing something, a cause behind the bang. Physicists or theologians have the same issue as you so eloquently pointed out, what came before the universe, as we know it, existed? It is so hard for us to get our head’s around the concept of eternity, i.e. things existing without a cause – which can lead to theories about alternate realities/parallel universes and all that. A level of existence where time, for example, doesn’t apply.
I have a very easy time accepting/understanding evolution when it comes to men evolving from apes; birds from dinosaurs; or even land animals from aquatic ones. There is a logic to the evolution being driven by environment. The more fascinating thing for me is the initial creation of life and it evolving into multi-celled and then multi-organed animals. I can’t help but wonder what environmental pressures and events drove those developments.
In discussing the Big Bang, one must understand that science can look at the evidence and explain what happened following the Big Bang. But at the very moment it happened, within the singularity science has no verifiable understanding because the laws don’t apply within it. As to what existed prior to the Big Bang, this is no longer part of verifiable science. We can make assumptions and hypotheses but these are no more science than Creationism. Both state on faith that something happened to bring existence/matter into being without proof. All we can do is study what has transpired since that time.
Just as cosmologist have an unexplained beginning, so do biologist. Where did life come from? We can study and debate what happened once we had life, but the origin falls outside our base of knowledge. Any scientific explanation would need to fall outside the known laws or else invalidate Pasteur’s proof that spontaneous generation doesn’t happen.
Ultimate origins fall outside of science. Cosmology, Creationism and Evolutionism can study what happened after the beginning but only creationism acknowledges what science implicates – how it all started. Evolution and Creationism are both science-based studies that seek to explain the history of life on this planet. Neither can rely on science to explain how life started. Evolutionist say that God is a disprovable thesis, while Creationist say that science has already decided that life can’t come from life (Spontaneous Generation). Both are equal in the amount of science and faith contained within each theory.
Sorry
I meant:
life can’t come from non-life
Strgwillidar- I do not consider you dense at all and if my interaction with you made you think I was trying to be condescending in any fashion, I am extremely apologetic. All too often, this medium lacks the ability to efficiently convey tone and these leads to misunderstanding. Also, your last comment to me showed I was being much to obtuse in expressing myself. So to try and clarify and perhaps reach a meeting point…
I think we both agree that
1) there is compelling, repeatable, demonstrative evidence for the Big Bang Theory being accurate.
2) under our present ability to form an operational theory and test it, the Big Bang is the only one that comes close to accurately predicting our present observations of the universe.
3) it is maintain by the majority of Christians around the world that the Big Bang Theory does not violate the act of creation by God. (I am not saying that you at any time disagreed or agreed with this statement, it just that it is often presented that people either believe in science or god…which is not true for the most part).
Now here is what I think is my view differs from your, and if I have said anything you take offense to, I apologize. At the point of singularity, our entire universe, including everything that we need to observe our universe, was contained inside that infinitely small spot. Because everything we know and understand is inside that spot, attempting to in anyway to understand what was outside that spot, what external force cause the spot to expand/erupt, or what occurred before that spot existed is simply impossible for us to test for because we need our reality to do so (which was completely inside the spot). I think an equivalent example would be for scientist to try and test for a human soul right before the moment of conception, in that its a fallacy to even try. If we cannot test for something or even theorize a way to possibly test for something, it should not mean that scientist take the easy way out and say “God did it”. The question of what came before the Big Bang doesn’t belong in the high school class room. It belongs in a religious or a high end Physics exam (graduate level).
Now your comment to Karl about an eternal universe brings up some interesting issues. While most people understand the idea of half-life in radioactive elements, what many don’t realize that even stable elements have half-lives; they are just for all intents and purposes indefinite from our view point. But if a universe was eternal, even if it wasn’t expanding to the point of potential heat death, eventually all the stable elements would breakdown to photons. And even photons have a half-life (but remember, we are talking about a time scale of trillion of trillion years but under an eternal universe model, we got nothing but time on our hands). Keep in mind, I’m no physicist, but a Mechanical Engineering major, but I do like to read up on this really crazy stuff those scientist work on so I guess that gives me the right to act like an expert(sarcasm).
And your interest in abiogenesis is something that you surely are not alone in.
An excellent essay. I wouldn’t have any problem with Darwinism etc if it weren’t for the gun-in-the-face hysterics of its proponents. In addition, as a philosophy it’s just another of the commonest kind in human history–nearly all religions, philosophies and political movements are centered around the denial of free will, and Darwinism is mostly used for just that purpose. If it were actually original I might pay it more mind, but the core thesis is about as common as anything ever has been in human history.
It’s about time scientists start acting like scientists–treating even sacred cows with skepticism. I reckon we’ll have to wait for the baby boomers to die off, however. Once they’re gone we won’t have to put up with all the inflexible dogmatism that so infected the elite of that generation. Imagine not learning a single thing after 35 or 40 years! Yet your garden variety elite Baby Boomer still thinks exactly what he thunk at the age of 17. Ai Caramba!!
@ Karl Lembke:
#19: spot on all over. I wish I had made clearer in my own post that the purpose of bringing Creationism into the classroom would be to illustrate where it fails.
#22: Very well put!
@ Diablo (26): Also well-put (and kindly-worded). I wouldn’t slight the scientific proficiency you gain from recreational reading, either, as long as you’re not pretending — and you’re not — to credentials you don’t have.
15. pnome
Occam’s Razor wouldn’t necessarily eliminate a Creationist model but would make it unnecessary baggage for science to carry. If science can clearly point to verifiable proof of a beginning of life from non-life and matter from non-matter, this would put an end to the need for Creationism as a scientific theory. Christians may still allow that God was the invisible first cause but that would move the argument to the area of philosophy or metaphysics rather than science.
If on the contrary, science cannot prove a sound theory for the ultimate origins, then I would point to what Arthur Conan Doyle said, “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.”
Ah, the “global warming fraud” and the importance of teaching Creationism. I think James Lewis is the perfect candidate to be PJM’s science editor (if he isn’t that already).
to perfect that which was left unperfected
@ #6, #7, #9, #12, #19, #22, #24, #26
The Big Bang NEVER Happened! That’s another mystical fantasy of “cosmologists” with connection to big pocket from governmental dotations and the sponsorship from from the Church!
Read an excellent book by Eric J. Lerner, The Big Bang Never Happened: A Startling Refutation of the Dominant Theory of the Origin of the Universe
@ styrgwillidar (23):
“The more fascinating thing for me is the initial creation of life and it evolving into multi-celled and then multi-organed animals. I can’t help but wonder what environmental pressures and events drove those developments.”
Same here, mainly because the answers are still being researched.
My hunch is that life arises whenever conditions are remotely favorable, because once it exists, life represents an additional pathway for energy to run downhill. Life arises because the entropy of the universe increases faster when life is around.
As for multicellularism — I suspect a course in embryology would be instructive. I sat in on one in college, and the course included a survey of a number of types of life form, with a number of types of organization. Fascinating stuff.
@ Diablo (26):
“While most people understand the idea of half-life in radioactive elements, what many don’t realize that even stable elements have half-lives; they are just for all intents and purposes indefinite from our view point. But if a universe was eternal, even if it wasn’t expanding to the point of potential heat death, eventually all the stable elements would breakdown to photons. And even photons have a half-life…”
Well, if certain theories hold up, yes, all matter has a finite half-life. (I’ve never heard of photons having a half-life, but in an expanding universe, they’ll red-shift to zero energy.) However, there are lots of naturally occurring elements that have half-lives much shorter than the planet. Radon is naturally occurring, and has a half-life of 3.8 days. Why is there so much of it around? It occurs in the decay chain of Uranium.
Uranium itself doesn’t seem to have existed in the early universe. Any uranium in existence was created in the cores of exploding stars. Why not take whatever occurred billions of years ago as hitting the “reset” button on the universe?
Anyway, at this point, we’re wandering into the weeds.
da weeds is right.
SO I’ve already chimed in on this topic but maybe the following points are additional:
Well… The first thing I would ask is how do you propose to teach it?
What is there to study? Because it seems it would require no more than a fraction of the space it took to write this article; on the order of sentences. Like “God made Everything as it is”: done.
As it is not a scientific theory, there is no method, measurement, or reasoning behind it other than to proclaim it (check out anthropic principle – it says we exist cause its the only universe in which we can – not very intersting if you ask me – and certainly not scientific – I call it a cop-out, meaning if you get to that point, just quit).
One of those one paragraph sections in the books huh? ok. fine.
You know this will garner religious questions/discussions in many biology classrooms (with teachers uneducated in that realm) around the country when brought up (taking more time than any one paragraph should garner – and with a “random” teacher or whatever – as @20 said).
But, I suppose that is your desire. How noble. Thanks for wanting to cost extra tax dollars and degraded education (as far as standardized tests).
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Generally speaking I agree with Anjika@14 and Zaza@3.
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As for as “jumping” mutations: Wasn’t there a goat with a human face born recently? There could equally have been as well a goat with a thumb and that would have been evolutionary. Prideful is he that supposes the Lord’s ways.
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Sorry to nitpick…
GPS works because of General Relativity. I suspect this is what was meant. Vacuum tubes and radio were known before Quantum mechanics. It is GR’s accounting for the extra time delay of climbing out of the Earth’s gravitational well that makes it “work”.
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Big bang (I assume we are talking about expansion) has nothing to do with conservation of momentum/energy actually. It is the expansion of space itself (IE nothing predicts Inflation, it must be put in by hand – yet it happened). If you were to sit on a far-off planet you would still see everything moving away from you, yet the planet itself is not moving inertially, it is the distance between that is expanding (the ruler distance – meaning fine-structure is constant). This is very different from (Newtonian or Einsteinian) momentum. Einstein did not fullheartedly accept this (Cosmological/Hubble) constant, I don’t think.
Space has no mass. The scale factor is expanding thats all.
There is no global conservation of energy/momentum in General Relativity. Locally, for stable spacetimes, it can be defined but not generally. Funny thing huh.
No scientific theory I’m aware of proposes to explain what was space before the singularity (as @24 said) and never will. In fact the extrapolations only go back to below 1 second after the Big Bang.
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Again, so sorry to nitpick.
But Creationism is neither provable nor disprovable so I don’t understand how it should be taught as a Science.
this is not provably true: “life can’t come from non-life” unless you preclude randomness (eg lightning – or when do sperm first wiggle)
And that…
“Neither Darwinism nor Creationism can answer all the questions.”
Is irrelevant. Science is not about the questions that cannot be answered but about the questions that can. The rest is for religion (or metaphysics if you like that thing).
Even if String Theory is proven “true” there will still be the question of who prescribed that Langrangian.
Let us not mix up these things: Belief and (observable) Truth.
Sorry if unclear but (long SpinOTU day) lots of thoughtful ideas posted in this thread; would be happy to answer any physical questions.
29. jelloman5000
“If science can clearly point to verifiable proof of a beginning of life from non-life and matter from non-matter, this would put an end to the need for Creationism as a scientific theory.”
You are making what is called an “Argument from Ignorance” (google it).
Creationism is not a scientific theory. It cannot be falsified.
@ Distraught (34): Thanks for saying something about that Big-Bang-momentum claim. I was wondering about that myself, but didn’t feel qualified to say anything one way or the other…
I started as a physics major, but it turned out I was so much better at, for example, doing a mathematical proof that a formula ought to be so than I was at using the formula to get, you know, the right numerical answer. So I switched to math instead. My physics schoolin’ only went as far as Griffith’s quantum, intermediate mech, and special relativity — that’s something, but to a real physicist, it’s not that much.
Math’s astonishingly beautiful, but it’s not a science where you have much contact with physical evidence, and sometimes I miss that. I enjoy articles like this one, and the comments. They’re edifying.
All, especially Diablo,
I took no offense, but like you was afraid I wasn’t communicating both ideas and tones in the manner I was attempting to. I’ve found our exchange enlightening and entertaining and appreciate the time (our most precious resource) you’ve allocated to conversing with me.
And I have read with interest the comments from others. As I said earlier, the most amazing coincidence to me is not that life was initiated under some random combination of matter and energy in the right proportions, but that it was created with the ability to replicate and evolve. Which goes back to the idea of skepticism and understanding the limits of each theory. From the perspective of science and evolution theory that was the specific requirement to start everything.
Diablo, like you I’m just a (hopefully) well read and inquisitive person with a degree in mechanical engineering. (Which I only obtained as my ticket to enter the military as an officer so I could fly, never did any engineering).
Apologies, I mispoke a bit about the GPS system:
The largest correction (there are multiple) is due to the fact that clocks run slower on the satellites (farther out in gravitational field + orbital velocity) and it is on the order of 10^-9 or something.
So if it weren’t for GR they would go “out of sync” (ie incorrect reading) in short time (~hour) and be useless within a day.
I agree Anjika, Math and Physics are (aside from the world and whats in it) the most beautiful things to me; it shows you things.
Unfortunately, I have forgotten more than I would have liked and more than most know (I miss pure Math alot). It is disheartening at times but thats life, and it goes on still.
Shucks, forgot to thank you for the article Mr. Lewis. I enjoyed reading it (you are darn right about the skeptic in us) and appreciate you increasing awareness of what exactly science is – we need it much.
15. pnome: “Tell me, believers, how is creationism falsified?
What evidence, or set of conditions would convince you that creationism is wrong? ”
When science can prove how life began and that there was no God involved.
35. pnome “You are making what is called an “Argument from Ignorance” (google it).”
I would agree with you if I was stating that Creationism is true because you do not have proof of Darwinian evolution. I have not said that. The argument I have made is that neither case has justification to consider its case proved. I believe both theories are worthy of study. I am skeptical in Darwinian evolution because I do not believe the questions of “life from non-life” and “matter from non-matter” can be resolved naturally or materially. Thus, if I’m open to a supernatural cause, Creationism in some for or another ceases to be unrealistic. An open, yet skeptical mindset is needed to find the truth. Otherwise, we end up making “arguments from personal incredulity” (look it up) and assume an argument is wrong because you cannot accept it as true.
If matter truly came from non-matter, is it wise to eliminate the existence of a non-material entity acting in our material universe. Whereas, if science can prove a natural cause for this apparent paradox, this proof would indeed invalidate Creationism, thus making it falsifiable.
Neither evolution nor creationism has the weight of proof on their side. In fact, there could be a completely new theory that fits the evidence. But we should question assumptions and encourage open minded study in science, whether in origin of life or climate change, no matter if we are religious or atheist.
Funny how James Lewis rattled on about sweeping generalizations of science, then tore into vouching his imaginary skyfairy at the halfway mark, like a crackhead jonesing for his fix.
Not all ideas are equal. Some are just ******* stupid.
Which version of Creationism? Young Earth? Old Earth? FrontLoading Biology theory? ID? Genetic Entropy? Baramines?
First you have to recognize there are different versions of ideas, hypotheses and theory. Creationism is not a one glove fits all. It has several different categories in biology, genetics, geology, origins, astronomy, etc.
Young Earth posits Variation within Kinds and more specific designer involvment.
Old Earth usually theorizes a certain amount of intervention from the beginning, not much later.
FrontLoading posits a guided/unguided Prescribed Feature of biology that utilizes RM&NS
Each position argues that they can be falsified from some very good scientist, like Dr. John Sanford for example, famous for his Gene Gun and other patents, inventions. He stated that the big picture Macro-Evolution theory, especially Darwinian theory was a large waste of his time, never utilized for his purpose of operational genetics.
A way to falsify any of the Intelligent Design/Creationist theories is simply to show a Macro-Evolutionary event that is unguided and utilizes the “gradual” selection process to create new information that leads to a new species.
Michael Behe has given a much smaller goal in his book Edge of Evolution, which has yet to be successfully challenged by Darwinist.
If one wants to complain about falsification, then look to Unguided Evolution theory. It answers everything and nothing and is always found to be correct by Darwinist. And yet, you can never truly observe Macro Evolutionary concepts because of the “billions of years” in time for such “transitions” to take place. Least thats what they say happened, but they can only infer that it took place.
Another way to look at this is in a future thought process. When will human designers create new forms of life?