Comments on: Saving the Males from the NY Times http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:40:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Equity vs Equality « Jay's Thoughts on Stuff http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-497255 Equity vs Equality « Jay's Thoughts on Stuff Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:08:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-497255 [...] Bernard Chapin writes, A survey cited indicates that despite four decades of feminist imploration women still perform twice as much house work as do men. The discrepancy becomes even wider in terms of childcare. Progressives would attribute this to male sloth and inherent dysfunctionality; however, a more plausible explanation is that men have different standards for cleanliness and do not see the end results of domestic activities as being worth the effort that goes into them. [...] [...] Bernard Chapin writes, A survey cited indicates that despite four decades of feminist imploration women still perform twice as much house work as do men. The discrepancy becomes even wider in terms of childcare. Progressives would attribute this to male sloth and inherent dysfunctionality; however, a more plausible explanation is that men have different standards for cleanliness and do not see the end results of domestic activities as being worth the effort that goes into them. [...]

]]> By: QWERTY http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-75601 QWERTY Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:55:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-75601 Any way let me put my take on Marriage and Chores a)Who are the ones that push the relationship towards marriage? -- female b)Who are more likely to have desire to live in a clean and cute home? -- female c)Who are more likely to have the nesting instinct, which we see in all mammals? -- Females d)Who are more likely to have a desire for kids?---Females And have the females, inspite of their empowerment, stopped using supply of sex as a bargaining tool? And have they stopped emotional manipulation? All the evidence points to one obvious conclusion. Marriage was largely designed to address female insecurities and child rearing. Men gain just companionship from marriage, nothing more.THey are promised of regular sex, but that dies once the female has an offspring. And regarding housework: Women desire clean house, tasty food and cute kids more than men. And women force men to pick up chores to meet their own innate desires, under the phony name of "equality". Anyway marriage involves HUGE sacrifice of masculinity. And under absence of social pressure, majority of males would turn away from this institution. And that is what we are noticing in a phenomenon called "Marriage Strike". Any way let me put my take on Marriage and Chores

a)Who are the ones that push the relationship towards marriage? — female

b)Who are more likely to have desire to live in a clean and cute home? — female

c)Who are more likely to have the nesting instinct, which we see in all mammals? — Females

d)Who are more likely to have a desire for kids?—Females

And have the females, inspite of their empowerment, stopped using supply of sex as a bargaining tool?

And have they stopped emotional manipulation?

All the evidence points to one obvious conclusion. Marriage was largely designed to address female insecurities and child rearing. Men gain just companionship from marriage, nothing more.THey are promised of regular sex, but that dies once the female has an offspring.

And regarding housework:

Women desire clean house, tasty food and cute kids more than men. And women force men to pick up chores to meet their own innate desires, under the phony name of “equality”.

Anyway marriage involves HUGE sacrifice of masculinity. And under absence of social pressure, majority of males would turn away from this institution.

And that is what we are noticing in a phenomenon called “Marriage Strike”.

]]> By: Chuck Pelto http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-74821 Chuck Pelto Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:47:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-74821 TO: deguello RE: Projection, Again? "I had thought of continuing the argument on your mensa site in colorado,but why embarrass you in front of your friends?" -- deguello My friends AND my associates know me already. The only ones being embarrassed are the gutless wonders, compadre. Regards, Chuck(le) [Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated. -- George Bernard Shaw] TO: deguello
RE: Projection, Again?

“I had thought of continuing the argument on your mensa site in colorado,but why embarrass you in front of your friends?” — deguello

My friends AND my associates know me already. The only ones being embarrassed are the gutless wonders, compadre.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated. -- George Bernard Shaw]

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-74537 deguello Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:17:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-74537 I had thought of continuing the argument on your mensa site in colorado,but why embarrass you in front of your friends? I had thought of continuing the argument on your mensa site in colorado,but why embarrass you in front of your friends?

]]> By: Chuck Pelto http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73926 Chuck Pelto Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:05:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73926 TO: deguello RE: A Monty Python Moment? Having trouble reading English? Vis-a-vis keeping on-topic and taking the off-topic elsewhere? Or are you rather gutless in your 'faith'? Regards, Chuck(le) [Run awaaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!] TO: deguello
RE: A Monty Python Moment?

Having trouble reading English? Vis-a-vis keeping on-topic and taking the off-topic elsewhere?

Or are you rather gutless in your ‘faith’?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Run awaaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!]

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73822 deguello Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:54:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73822 Nice try Chuckie, but characterizing intellectual integrity as pride,is cheap religious casuistry. By the way, that was a nice touch, using a brilliant atheist like Twain to buttress religion:but then you lack intellectual integrity,er, "pride". Your condescending smugness,is really no different from that of the Times' editors:same crap,different religion. Have a nice life Chuckie! Nice try Chuckie, but characterizing intellectual integrity as pride,is cheap religious casuistry. By the way, that was a nice touch, using a brilliant atheist like Twain to buttress religion:but then you lack intellectual integrity,er, “pride”. Your condescending smugness,is really no different from that of the Times’ editors:same crap,different religion. Have a nice life Chuckie!

]]> By: Chuck Pelto http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73650 Chuck Pelto Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:48:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73650 TO: deguello RE: Off-Topic Discussion There's something up there as a reply to your last missive here. See.... http://www.comensarations.info/index.php/weblog/saving_the_males/ Here, let's try to focus our energies on PJM's topic. Okay? Regards, Chuck(le) [You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. -- Mark Twain] TO: deguello
RE: Off-Topic Discussion

There’s something up there as a reply to your last missive here. See….

http://www.comensarations.info/index.php/weblog/saving_the_males/

Here, let’s try to focus our energies on PJM’s topic. Okay?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. -- Mark Twain]

]]> By: Chuck Pelto http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73544 Chuck Pelto Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:07:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73544 P.S. You want to continue the 'off-topic' discussion, click on my name.... P.S. You want to continue the ‘off-topic’ discussion, click on my name….

]]> By: Chuck Pelto http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73542 Chuck Pelto Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:07:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73542 TO: deguello RE: Ain't Pride Something Awful? "I fully understand the concept of a fallen world;a pathetic attempt to justify the death of innocents." -- deguello Actually, I have serious doubts that you understand much of anythink in this particular venue. But that is WAY off-topic for this thread. Have you read that reference book? Have you read the more recent book I suggested? If not then you're just another typically ignorant individual railing against that which you have absolutely NO understanding. I encounter that sort ALL the time. All they have to offer is ignorance and bombast. And the more you point it out to them, the angrier they seem to become. Regards, Chuck(le) [Ignorance is when you don't know something. Stupidity is ignorance with pride.] TO: deguello
RE: Ain’t Pride Something Awful?

“I fully understand the concept of a fallen world;a pathetic attempt to justify the death of innocents.” — deguello

Actually, I have serious doubts that you understand much of anythink in this particular venue. But that is WAY off-topic for this thread.

Have you read that reference book? Have you read the more recent book I suggested? If not then you’re just another typically ignorant individual railing against that which you have absolutely NO understanding.

I encounter that sort ALL the time. All they have to offer is ignorance and bombast. And the more you point it out to them, the angrier they seem to become.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Ignorance is when you don't know something. Stupidity is ignorance with pride.]

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73523 deguello Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:34:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/saving-the-males-from-the-ny-times/#comment-73523 I fully understand the concept of a fallen world;a pathetic attempt to justify the death of innocents. Like all such casuistry, it's unconvincing. That's why the Christian church tried to suppressd Greek literature, especially tragedy, which is about trying to find meaning in suffering, without phantasmagoric notions of guilt,the fall,or more such nonsensicsl ways I to induce guilt,and prevent thought.Consider: what will you do in those last seconds of consciousness before death,and realize that you will NOT meet god.By the way,I do not mean to be insulting;I actually respect people who try to live their faith. I fully understand the concept of a fallen world;a pathetic attempt to justify the death of innocents. Like all such casuistry, it’s unconvincing. That’s why the Christian church tried to suppressd Greek literature, especially tragedy, which is about trying to find meaning in suffering, without phantasmagoric notions of guilt,the fall,or more such nonsensicsl ways I to induce guilt,and prevent thought.Consider: what will you do in those last seconds of consciousness before death,and realize that you will NOT meet god.By the way,I do not mean to be insulting;I actually respect people who try to live their faith.

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