Sarah for President?
Sarah Palin continues to galvanize the imagination of both her ardent supporters and her hectoring adversaries. It is easy to understand her appeal to those who have rallied behind her and her possible candidacy for the office of president of the United States. She has a lot going for her: charm, personableness, natural smarts, moral probity, executive competence, independence of character, and a passionate love of country. These are undeniable advantages, or should be in any sane political environment.
At the same time, she steps up to the plate with two strikes against her — or, in an alternative baseball universe, with three, four, or five strikes already logged in the umpire’s clicker. PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome) flourishes on the liberal-left, to the extent that a correspondent to Salon.com suggests “we get rid of Palin” by having her electrocuted like one of Michael Vick’s dogs. According to the media scuttlebutt and her innumerable liberal detractors, she is poorly educated, brings no foreign policy experience to the job, shoots her own dinner, comes across as politically unnuanced, and, perhaps the most cutting strike against her, lacks gravitas. These negatives are obviously serious disadvantages for anyone contemplating a run for the presidency, but are they valid criticisms? Is she really “out” before she even takes a swing? Let’s consider each of these knocks against her in turn.
To begin with, Palin is by no means poorly educated; she merely did not graduate with a degree from an Ivy League institution, which by any reasonable account in today’s academic milieu should stand decidedly in her favor. Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Berkeley and other so-called elite universities charge prohibitive tuition fees while, for the most part, delivering second-rate curricular fare. They represent the kiss of intellectual death — unless, of course, one wishes to enter the service of the State Department or practice trial or immigration law. Palin did well to avoid these bastions of mainly liberal-left political correctness.
As for the absence of foreign policy experience, David Jenkins reminds us in an article for PJM that, with the exception of the elder Bush (who, incidentally, was no presidential cynosure), “it is not common for presidents to enter office with foreign policy experience.” In this respect, Palin is no different from the vast majority of her predecessors and certainly not from the present incumbent. What is needed in this domain is precisely what Palin would bring to the highest office in the land: insight and principle. As Jenkins writes, “she knows that America must be strong in order to be safe, and…that we must develop our own resources and end our dependence on foreign oil.” Palin also knows that an American president does not bow and apologize to foreign despots and does not alienate loyal and tested allies, but comports himself or herself with dignity and courage.
Nor is there anything wrong with shooting one’s own dinner, especially when one considers that liberal urbanites are perfectly OK with having other people shoot their dinner for them. Unless they are dedicated vegans, their hypocrisy is indigestible, and even vegans would surely vote for a meat-eating Democrat. Being handy with a shotgun and knowing how to skin a caribou is plainly not the real issue here. The implication is that Palin is some sort of primitive rustic rather than a credentialed cosmopolite. But the truth is that frowning on Palin’s wilderness skills is nothing but class snobbery on the part of those who would be utterly lost were they stripped of the “civilized” amenities they thoughtlessly take for granted. It is their mincing pretentiousness and fashionable outrage, not Palin’s honest hardiness, that is deplorable.
Further, Palin is by no means politically unnuanced. Quite the contrary, she is as politically savvy as they come, whether on the domestic or international front. Her speeches during the recent congressional elections were not only unteleprompted barnburners in the best populist tradition, but revealed a meticulous command of the domestic issues currently bedeviling the nation as well as a finely nuanced understanding of America’s pancreatic failures in international diplomacy. She displays a far more realistic perspective on the Middle East and has far more accurately taken the measure of America’s geopolitical competitors, particularly Russia and China, than anyone in the Democratic administration.
Palin does not believe in tax and spend, in fiat printing, in redistributive economics, in ObamaCare, in the AGW nonsense that is only an opaque wealth transfer scheme, in making purses out of sows’ ears (aka pork and earmarks), in pressing reset buttons, in blaming Israel for the Palestinians, or in a degrading and unproductive “outreach” to the Islamic umma. These are policies she would reverse, as indeed would anyone with a nuanced understanding of the economic and political worlds. There is little doubt that Palin would be a strong, resolute, and effective president should she ever accede to the White House. Unlike Obama, she would not try to square the Oval.
Finally, if Palin lacks gravitas, then so do many others on the current political scene. Barack Obama, for example, not only lacks gravitas, he exhibits the moral and intellectual substance of a will o’ the wisp. This is not to take anything away from his golf game, but in political life he is always badly in need of a mulligan. Joe Biden is a figure straight out of vaudeville who can be dependably counted on to drop the cane he is trying to twirl — though, it must be admitted, he would look great in a straw boater. Hillary Clinton is, frankly, a wizened party hack and, like her husband, an adroit shape-shifter: one cannot trust a word she utters. No gravitas to be found amidst this crew.
Among the possible Republican contenders there are (or were) some potentially credible choices, at least from the standpoint of knowledge, experience, and/or presence. Newt Gingrich carries weight and political erudition but unfortunately also carries baggage. The same may be said for Jeb Bush, whose family name still remains a heavy burden he may not be able to shuck. His opposition to Arizona’s immigration law is also a very bad sign. Others like Marco Rubio and Allen West, both highly impressive figures, are too young or new to the field to be presidentially assessed. Chris Christie is a bold and ethical administrator, but is not a particularly persuasive communicator. John Thune is little known and Mitch Daniels is aura-challenged. Mike Huckabee’s banjo is not an electoral plus. Bobby Jindal and Tim Pawlenty are “good people,” but Jindal does not seem ready for higher office and Pawlenty is prone to misjudgment, such as withdrawing from the race for a third term as Minnesota governor that he could have won handily. Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour may have disqualified himself from consideration owing to certain insensitive or ambiguous racial comments — at least, journalist and fellow-Southerner Kyle-Anne Shiver appears to think so. John Bolton would make a decent president but an even better secretary of defense. Rick Perry’s secession remark, however flippant, has cost him dearly. Mitt Romney seems to wear a certain gravitas, but the “RomneyCare” fiasco that he imposed as governor of Massachusetts shows his weak and fallible side.
The real problem, however, is that “gravitas” is a vague and unreliable personality construct and, moreover, one that can be readily simulated by a good actor. Al Gore, for instance, managed to project seriousness of purpose for a time, until greed, corruption, and deceit tore away the mask with which he dazzled his public. “Gravitas” functions primarily as a media buzzword that can be applied indiscriminately, either to demean or to inflate its chosen subject. Only in the most proven and ineluctable cases can it be said to be an appropriate descriptor, and these are far and few between. Whether or not Palin is deficient in this regard, what she demonstrably lacks is the approval of a reprobate and partisan press, which is itself cripplingly short of integrity, not to mention gravitas.
But is Palin electable? The next two years will determine whether she will be able to counter the slanderous media campaign against her candidacy and her competence, and so convince enough people that she has the right stuff to lead the country in perhaps its most perilous historical moment since the Civil War. Clearly, she suffers more than her share of antagonists among the megabuck left and their myriad satellites, Ivy League academics, mainstream journalists, public intellectuals, union impresarios and henchmen, and the entitlement-addicted segment of the public. They are terrified of her. She even has the panjandrums in the Republican old guard shaking in their Guccis.
As Victor Volsky writes in American Thinker, “in the eyes of the political/cultural aristocracy, [Palin] is the embodiment of its worst nightmare: the revolt of the masses against their masters.” And she knows that the master class will mobilize its considerable reserves against her. The question is whether, by sheer force of character, will, and charisma, like an American version of Delacroix’s Marianne leading the charge at the electoral barricades, and by pursuing a tireless itinerary, she can prevail against overwhelming odds and bring to the American people authentic change and genuine hope for the future.






“There is probably no one more qualified for the white house than Sarah Palin.”
No one?!? 300 million people living in the US, and she’s the absolute best. Really.
Out of 300 million you folks, Matt, picked a community organizer, and now you have the audacity to question Palin’s fitness?? What a mokes!
Reading the headline, I was afraid we would have to read and complain about another piece featuring the newly developed discipline of unelectology, which by rights should have been scrapped after Obama and the Dems showed convincingly how to elect a completely unqualified teleprompter reader. Thanks, David, for at least doing a piece that concludes It Remains To Be Seen re Palin.
Well, at least we have details about her past. Can’t find anything out about Obama’s past except he was born and lived in Chicago. No pictures and no records except the Indonesian private school. So, who the hell is he? and he was their candidate?
Then we have Juan Williams telling us that Obama is Palin’s intellectual superior. So when does being a smart-ass mean you’re an intellectual superior?
When it gets down to assessing credentials, Obama can’t pass the smell-test and Palin shower-fresh clean.
It’s going to be fun to watch him forced to answer the questions he refused to answer in 2008. Then, the smart-ass will be seen as a dumb-ass.
clear mind:
“Then we have Juan Williams telling us that Obama is Palin’s intellectual superior. So when does being a smart-ass mean you’re an intellectual superior?”
When Juan Williams tells you anything that you believe or care about, you have met a smart-ass intellectual superior. Lightweights with big mouths rule the world. Just ask O’Reilly if you don’t believe me.
She’s certainly the most qualified to run of all the people who is likely to run.
I think Romney has the “qualifications,” but he continues to defend RomneyCare & can’t bring himself to say it’s an economic disaster & “just plain stinks.” Admitting “we gave it a try & it didn’t work like we thought it would” might go a long way in rehabilitating him as a real conservative.
Sarah Palin’s gas pipeline deal is a monumental achievement. It amazes me how people can put Romneycare alongside it and somehow conclude that Romney is more qualified.
To Carolannie, we do not need someone like Romney or Newt, which are both good politicians. We need people with principles and fresh ideas. You can call me crazy but I would love to see a Palin- Bauchman ticket, both strong women who want what is best for America. Who better to clean up the mess the men have made in Washington!!
What is a “good politician”?
carolannie:
A state healthcare plan supported by a vast majority of the citizens within a state is not the same as a federally mandated, one size fits all plan that makes one’s neighbor pay for healthcare for the other’s family, or anyone else who can make it across the U.S. border from anywhere in the world.
If you want to stop the “cultist” at least come up with some real ammunition. Honesty is still the best policy in the real world and sometimes fantasy can be the most telling sign of a mental disorder.
Not to worry, Bill O’Reilly, Brit Hume and Mike Huckleberry have the problem of the “cultist” covered. He’s toast before he enters the oven.
Millions of thinking Americans will see to it.
“Honesty is still the best policy in the real world and sometimes fantasy can be the most telling sign of a mental disorder.”
Yes, and honesty is something completely lacking in Mitt Romney. He’s every bit as phoney as Obama.
Odd that the only people I see worrying about Romney’s religion are Romney supporters.
Not a chance. Real conservatives know that a REAL conservative would never have “g(i)ve it a chance” because real conservatives already know that it was never possible that is would “work like we thought it would”, because it’s wrong in principle.
Simply the fact that he was willing to TRY socialized medicine disqualifies him. He’s shown he’s FUNDAMENTALLY wrong.
And ramming homosexual marriage through Mass while trying to blame it on the Mass Supreme Court and legislature doesn’t fly, either.
Among those who are considered possible candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, there is no more fundamentally dishonest person than Mitt Romney.
Allen West and Sarah Palin in 2012!
Sarah Palin (and the grizzlies) are the heroes in the new animated web movie A Not Too Grimm Fairy Tale… you’ll laugh your butt off as the truth about America is unveiled along with a new American symbol (weapon) – the Liberal “head-up-the-butt” person
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Yes I agree but is the establishment going to give a fair shot at the nomination. It was obvious the establishment republicans were fighting the tea party and they have already showed there dislike for Sarah.
‘No one?!? 300 million people living in the US, and she’s the absolute best. Really.’
What an asinine statement. Pure troll.
Sure glad you are just passing through! Don’t let the door hit you in the back on your way out.
Palen has my vote.
I believe you completely missed the intent of my comment. It was aimed at the snarky Australian fellow.
As for myself, I do not YET support Palin in the primary process leading up the the 2012 election. There are other conservative possibilities that I think would have a better chance of winning the general, and to me that is all important – getting the democrats, and especially Obama – out of the executive branch. While I believe Palin could and will be a gamechanging positive force at the national level, AT THIS point iI TIME, I believe she needs a bit more time to season. That could change in the next year.
That being said, if Palin does run in the primaries and wins the republican nomination, I would support her wholeheartedy and without reservation.
Only question is will the GOP support her if she wins the primary. They worked diligently to undermine a lot of the Tea Party candidates in the last election. They cost us seats.
Love these polls that tell me that romney might be able to beat obummer, those leftist pollsters should try honesty. I tend to see romney as a looser propped up by the gop.
I will vote for her if she is in the primary and if she wins that I will expect the GOP to support her 100%. If they don’t then I will be happy to assist in removing cornyn and hutchinson, they are the senate rino’s from Texas.
I think any GOP candidate that runs will beat Obama…unless he unleashes ACORN, SEIU and Organizing for America.
Palin’s biggest hurdle would be getting past the good ole boy GOP network to win the nomination. If she got the nomination, she’d beat Obama. The only way BO will win, no matter the GOP candidate, is through fraud – and he may very well do just that.
lol matthew you get funnier everyday. how is that hope and change working out for you?
is your unemployment benefit extended ?
very good article David.
regards
Gen P.: I’m a life long conservative Republican. Palin is a joke. Too bad we’ve all forgotten her strong support for the “bridge to nowhere.” Like John Kerry, she “was for it before she was against it.”
the bridge to no-where support by Palin should be looked at in context.
I am more concerned with her lack of platform on illegal immigration …a milestone she brought with her from McCain .. poster boy for milestone. that alone may disqualify her.
I would like to see Michelle Buchmann run for president.
Given that she has not sought the Presidency I’ve yet to see her platform, can you send me a link. I did however catch her very strong support for Governor Jan Brewer. I saw the remarks she made is support of border security and her statements in opposition to amnesty.
I’ll wait for her platform, but I am sure it will be consistent with her previous statements.
You tool. Favoring the bridge and favoring the earmark are not the same thing.
Perhaps you are a life long liberal republican. The kind who bash fellow republicans, and flake out on election day.
Lifelong conservative from Colorado? I doubt it. Majoring in unelectology at Boulder or some such?
That she did the right thing in the end matters..
She ran against her own party elites to fight corruption, was wildly popular… she did what was right for her State.
and RINO’s give her zero credit for what she did right.
That’s what ruins your credibility here, you claim to be on our side, and can’t say..”I appreciate what she’s done for the party, all the energy she has brought back in, but can’t support her for this reason———”… No your type immediatedly goes on about how much you hate her. Never giving her any credit.. just aping the MSM slime attacks.
I don’t know if she’s the right person yet… but the first woman with a real chance to win the nomination in the GOP, the first person since Mr. Reagan to energize the base, gets nothing but smears and slanders from supposed republicans.. Well… my meory is long..
The establishment GOP tried to smear Ron out of the running too. as well.. Carter’s people were desparate to run against him.. thinking he was unelectable.
be careful lefties for what you wish for.. karma has teeth.
Agreed. Palin and the TP saved the Repubs’ ass in the last election. Isn’t it curious that, while the Dems are sooooo eager to put the “first” whatever in the WH – the first black, first woman, first Muslim, etc, whether they are qualified, legal resident, etc or not – the Repubs resist anyone who’s not male and white and old. Don’t the Repubs ever aspire to have the “first”?? The Repubs should jump at the rare opportunity to have the distinction of nominating the first woman. Why do Repubs “eat their own” while Dems promote any one of their ilk that has a pulse? I just don’t understand it.
Steve, speaking as a true blue axxhat, we all fear Palin. No doubt she is the only one who can beat our super guy Obama for President. Please don’t nominate her or we are dead.
Only those that speak out and risk MSM crucifixion brought on by pandemic democratic fear count, Matt.
On the contrary, there are probably few less-qualified for POTUS than the dimwit, doper housewife from Alaska. Amoral, presiding over a dysfunctional household, easily bought, tolerating illegal marijuana abuse, unable to make even a few simple, highly repetitive statements without notes written on her hands, no military experience, no foreign policy experience, no expertise in anything, and therefore qualified to be the most powerful person in the world?
Have you been smoking funny cigarettes too?
Its funny all you do is name call…. nothing more
White tiger, thank you I could not agree with you more. I could not have written a better discretion of obama in so few words. Bravo!!
Hey WT just add on some “experimentation” with cocaine (uh huh, sure) to your meaningless diatribe and you could be describing Barry.
I’m no fan of Sarah Palin, but I find it amusing that, except for the “housewife” remark, that description fits Obama pretty well.
Did you REALLY dare to criticize her for having no military experience and no foreign policy experience? And tolerating marijuana use?
?!?!?!?
No military experience? Sarah was CinC of the Alaska National Guard. What CinC experience did Obama have when he was elected? She was a business owner in the fishing industry (still is). What business did Obama run? Perhaps his lemonade stand while in elementary school in Indonesia? Not even. As for notes on her hand, BO cannot say 2 words while looking away from the prompter. Are you aware (probably are, but won’t admit it) that the “hockey mom, pit bull” statement that Palin made at her nomination speech arose out of the fact that her prompter malfunctioned, and she was working completely without a net for several minutes until it came back on?! During that time, she made that famous remark, and what’s amazing is, no one could even tell during that time period that she was ad libbing, she was so natural and relaxed. The news reported it later. Let’s see…what does Obama do when his prompter malfunctions? He goes, “…eh, eh, eh…roll it up…uh..back down…uh, uh, no, I already said that…uh, uh, yeah there…”. LOL! What a complete loser.
White Tiger-are u a dumbass?
Matthew, why dose Sarah Palin scare you obama people. Lets look at obamas past work history, he has never held or did a real job. Even his time at teaching is not only highly questionable. Obama was basically forced to be hired at the institution that hire him for political reasons. Obama has to be the most unqualified person to have held the office of president in my life time. We all thought Jimmy Carter was bad but Obama is running neck to neck for last place, with Jimmy. If Obama did not have the black voters covering his ass just think where his ratings would be. They would be in the minus area. I do not know if Sarah is the best candidate for president, but she sure is better than what we have now and I do not see to many Republicans better qualified than Sarah Palin for the office of President. Personally I think she would be crazy to run, she is more dangerous to the democrats doing what she is doing now!
“Personally I think she would be crazy to run, she is more dangerous to the democrats doing what she is doing now!”
She’s making a truckload of money doing it, too. Becoming president would be a poor career choice – her pay would be slashed to a fraction of what she’s earning now and she’d actually have to answer questions about the things that she says and does. Heck – bill gates would probably be an incredible president. He’d run things brilliantly. He’d be mad to apply, though.
And I’m not sure that palin really has the mainstream GOP’s interests at heart anyway. I reckon she’d be very divisive within her own party, and probably thus guarantee a democratic win. So sure – please, sarah, step up and join the race
She’d better do it soon, though. My impression is that to succeed as a woman in conservative US politics (as a candidate or a pundit), you have to be young and/or attractive (go on – find me some counterexamples). If palin waits a few years, puts on a few pounds and starts to show some wrinkles, you lot will drop her like a hot rock. Wait and see
I really am astonished that you guys can’t think of a single republican who’s better qualified for the job. Look around at the republican state governors (which is where the next candidate will probably come from anyway). Surely there’s some talent there? There’s nobody in congress who could step up? Nobody? Think about what that says.
Matthew, do you remember Margret Thatcher and Golda Meir, they were not beauty queens but very good leaders. I all so think Palin would be crazy to run for president, but she would be a h-ll of a lot better for America than Barry.
Read what I wrote again. I didn’t say UK or Israeli politics – I said US politics. I don’t just pick words at random.
Skip, you must remember Matt picks his words as carefully as a poet. Here is one carefully selected example: “Becoming president would be a poor career choice – her pay would be slashed to a fraction of what she’s earning now…”
Trouble is Bill Clinton is making many millions simply and only because he was President at one time. It was a great career move for him. It was also great for Bush, who now has a bestseller on the market. So, as usual, Matt’s carefully selected prose is simple, unthought-out BS.
As usual, Matthew, I shall be the one to take up your challenge.
Jodi Riell, Governor of CT. Not especially attractive, but successful. Liberal Republican, though. Not rejected because of her looks or lack of them.
Governor Susanna Martinez of NM. Have you SEEN her? Yet, she is embraced.
Governor Jan Brewer of AZ. Not a beauty Queen, and not young. Embraced.
Palin’s beauty is not why we embrace her. We embodies the values we hold dear. She is honest, a rare thing in pols. She is decent, hard-working. It is not about her physical beauty, because she is beautiful throughout. She is a beautiful person.
As for someone better, this is another fallacy. Republicans lost power in 2006. The Conservatives who took over Congress in ’94 left in 2000. We lack better Conservative candidates, because Conservatives have been out of power for a decade.
We have a nice new crop of them, but they are young and unproven. Look at our future. Jindal, Ryan, Kantor, Haley, Kasich, Brewer, Martinez, Rubio, etc…. Lots of comers, but not ready yet.
Palin, by dint of her national exposure for so long now, and with her track record, is a viable candidate. The others have to develop a record. I think Kasich has what it takes, but he has turn around Ohio first. Bachmann lacks exec experience. Christie has to turn around NJ, and he is a Liberal Republican.
Our bench is very deep, but we have few legitimate stars at the moment, so Palin is it. Sorry, but that’s the way it is. In 2016 or 2020, it will be very different!
Haley? As in, Haley Barbour? The RINO who presided over giving us the execrable Bob Dole as a candidate?
/jawdrop/
Nikki Haley, Mark, not Barbour.
Allen West immediately comes to mind in response to your question.
Hmm. Its not a matter of out of the best of 300m people. It is out of the best of 300m that are willing and able to run and also willing to put up with the BS that politics entails. That single voluntary qualification narrows the field considerably and also eliminates the moniker of ‘best’.
The ‘best’ go on to business and hopefully make millions for themselves and others.
far and away better than this fraud the useful idiots of this country installed into the White House.
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I don’t know who the candidate will be to go up against the liar in chief in 2012,but I do know that I would like it to be a conservative candidate who has personally put crooked politicians from their own party in prison for corruption.
and no RINO’s please.
really? And who were they?
I believe he is referring to Palin, although AFAIK, she only got them fined and not incarcerated. To bad she couldn’t get Murkowski on something.
Some of palin’s supporters seem to give her credit for a large number of convictions following federal FBI/IRS investigations that started well before she was elected (see alaska political corruption probe). They had nothing at all to do with palin. But little things like that don’t seem to count when assigning miracles to st sarah of wasilla
Curiously, almost all of the convictions were republican politicians or their staff. Yet folks like to think the left is the home of political corruption. Well, apparently not in alaska.
Was that before she resigned as Chairman of the oil and gas commission in protest thus exposing political corruption that led to convictions?
Yes, Matthew, that was the time when Sarah was the Democrats’ darling for taking on the corrupt Republican machine up there. Some of the most ass-kissing praise for her came from–get the digitalis–NEWSWEEK!
You remember that Matthew, dont you? Don’t you?
Was that before she resigned as Chairman of the oil and gas commission in protest thus exposing political corruption that led to convictions?
Yes. But your characterization of what happened is wrong. The “political corruption” in that case was one guy who used his work computer to send republican party emails. Not quite in same league as the convictions the Feds were seeking. And I’m not sure if Ruedrich was actually “convicted” of anything, but he did pay a fine to the state ethics board.
Matthew, I think you stepped in it this time. Happy New Year
“Matthew, I think you stepped in it this time.”
That’d be a lot more impressive if you explained how
I’m dying to hear it. If palin really was responsible for somebody going to prison for corruption, then let’s have a name. Just one will do.
“Happy New Year”
Same to you!
Hello? Skip? Have you got that name for me? I’m still waiting to find out if I’ve stepped in something.
Unfortunately I believe the Left has done a thorough job of demonizing her. She also has to overcome the ‘Conservative’ punditry in the Beltway,ie. Will,krauthammer,Charen etc..
She shows more courage than any male GOP contender but I don’t think thats what the Establishment wants.
Of course, the left will, ad nauseum, demonize anyone on the right, Sara Palin or otherwise. Her real detractors are in the moderate (read~ Elite) Republican leadership structure. The real question, regarding her electability, is will the voters, at Primary election time, choose to consider the candidates, or follow blindly their would be masters. If we assume that, since the elites have criticized her, she can’t win, then our default position will be a moderate in the mold of candidate McCain.
Of those listed as “other contenders” for the 2012 primary, I’m early leaning towards Bolton, and Palin remains a stalwart, but Barbour, already high on my list, took a noticeable jump upwards after reading Mrs. Shiver’s and Mr. Radosh’s drivel on the subject.
Bolton would make a good SecDef and and EXCELLENT SecState.
I think he’d be a disaster on domestic issues. That’s not his forte, to put it mildly.
Will, Krauthammer.
Smart guys. Good spokesmen for conservatism, usually.
They are also card carrying member of the ruling class.
Yes, card carrying members of the ruling class. Both, all, “intellectuals”.
Reminds me of the political history of Margaret Thatcher. A fine local politician. Re-elected again and again by her constituency in a “Jewish” section of London,she must have done something right. When she sought to be Leader of the Conservative Party she met disdain at such effrontery. That Party was headed at the time by Edward Heath, a serious misogynist and great favourite in the party hierarchy. He, as Prime Minister took Great Britain into Europe with loss of national sovereignty. He was otherwise a failure for Britain.
After winning the Leadership from Heath, he did all possible to undermine her in her leadership. AND he had plenty of allies. Even after the win by the Conservative Party and her elevation to Prime Minister she was sabotaged by members of her Cabinet. And hated with passion by “intellectuals”, bien-pensant, by pundits of BBC, Guardian and left wing papers, jealous and ambitious in her own Cabinet.
Her detractors considered she had two insurmountable disadvantages: her sex ( mentioned only sotto voce, it was after all 1979)AND that she was “only a grocer’s daughter”. That she had two degrees from Oxford in Chemistry and Law, get that- hard science and… was of little value in their assessment of her possibilities as Prime Minister.
EVEN NOW, these people hate her. All the more I suspect because she is recognised world-wide as “the greatest Prime Minister in service to Britain and the British” since Winston Churchill.
Now is that a slap in the face to these know-it-alls? Is it in the cards of these “best and brightest” that they admit they were, they ARE WRONG ?
Not yet, even years after the Coup of her Cabinet which removed her from office. COUP, NOT voted out in election by the British People.
You sound like you read “There Is No Alternative: Why Margaret Thatcher Matters”; By Claire Berlinski. Splendid book.
Politicians are all ‘watered down’ these days; No guts. Sarah shows more guts than most. Christie is close, but he’s not the ‘Constitutionalist’.
With a high percentage of voters and politicians operating on the ‘politically correct’ agenda, the Constitution is burnt toast.
agreed ..you can add Rove to that as well. elitists.
..don’t worry matthew no one will call you an elitists.
…elitist. not elitists.
Plural is fine.
I like Sarah. I like her values. But I am a realist. Look at Obama elected from the left. In order to govern he has to move to the center but it isn’t far enough to satisfy anyone and he has alienated his base. I think that Palin’s best role is as influential kingmaker from the right. She needs to be a gravitational pull to the right. She won’t be able to do that if she moves to the center.
The Left wants Sarah Palin to stay in the sidelines, as “kingsmaker” and “cheerleader” for any White male GOP nominee. They know that if she does not runs it will create a vacuum in the GOP among conservatives and Tea Partiers. These folks would stay home on election day giving Obama a big reelection.
Sarah has only one way to go and is to run for president. There are big odds she could win Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries. She has a shot a becoming America’s first female president. Why not taking the opportunity? For our nation and for our future she needs to.
Hey, while we’re dropping Sarah, let’s abandon Israel too. True it’s a democratic ally, but the MSM and Iran have done their job — Israel isn’t supportable!
And freedom of speech, that’s a lost cause. The left has convinced too many people that every time conservatives exercise it, it’s a hate crime. Let’s look for something else to fight for.
Preservation of our borders? Dead issue thanks to the charges of racism. Abandon that cause.
I could go on.
In which case voters should become educated (not Ivy League)and move to the right. Bipartisanship is the pc item that brought us to this point in time. Do you really like it? Moving forward is now high risk terminology without GPS accuracy and destination specifically defined.
Al, were you to consider that the political spectrum runs from Maximum government (Totalitarianism) to no government(anarchy).You might then realize that given these to extremes of social construct. The Constitution and Sarah Palin occupy the middle. The center should not be judged to be where the left or even the right pretends it is. It should be where the best balance of the two extremes is achived.
That is a very good point. I need to remember it, and if you don’t mind use it in the future.
The main thing is to get Obama out. He is leading the country toward unprecedented catastrophe. Pick the most electable candidate. Tea party is not mainstream yet, as the midterms showed. Please don’t put this country in Obama’s hands again!
The attempted impeachment of WJC should totally wipe out that theory. BHO has a much longer list of atrocities already on the docket for the same charge but Senate protection still looms. Sarah said “RELOAD”!! Or would you rather more of the same with a different mascot.?
Massive repeal in January may bring totally nude exposure of BHO’s destructive intent through executive orders but as long as a POTUS is given the leeway to use his own personal word definitions and get senate acquittal you best make plan “B” with past experience in mind.
Actually, Clinton WAS impeached. He was not convicted, though, because the Democrats voted as a bloc to acquit. Not one of them had the objectiveness nor moral clarity to convict him, as he clearly should have been.
Sarah would be up against the entire media establishment along with the others in the race. And I wouldn’t put it past some of the more unhinged liberals/Democrats out there to attack her or her family physically.
Jonesy the MFM has been on her since McNasty made his only good choice in decades…what more can they dig up? They are already using BS and that isn’t going far.
Take a breath and forget the MFM, their day is past.
SF
Good point. I believe this is another reason the MFM hates Palin with a passion. Since she arrived on the political scene, the MFM have vetted her and her entire extended family every which way to Sunday, and nothing has stuck. Even the 20 lawsuits Lefties hit her with after the election, causing her to leave the AK Gov office for the benefit of the state and Alaskans, they prevailed in NOT ONE of them. She’s the only possible prez candidate that has no more crap left to dig up. The MFM continue to try, but every time, so far, it’s backfired on them. And they are pissed about that.
David, our country has fallen so deep into the maelstrom that we need an authentic American who cares not for anything but her country and it’s citizens. too many of the others that you mentioned would be Sarah-lite at best. The MSM is doing it’s level best to frag her before things get going.
The Patriots in fly over country have had enough. We know it is now time for “Broken Arrow” which means we have to bring friendly fire on top of ourselves in order to defeat the enemy which are liberals that are committed to ruining America. We can take no half measures by electing a Huckabee or Romney.
The new mantra of the Left is to try to ruin Conservative credibility by bringing up “birthers’, using political correctness when speaking about illegal immigration and Muslims and, of course, the tried but true tactic of using racism against us whenever they know that facts or the truth won’t suffice.
David, many of us, the Great Unwashed are down financially but not morally or patriotically. They can’t buy us off with entitlements. We are paying house notes on houses that aren’t worth what we owe, business loans that have sometimes lost almost 90% of their sales and doing work that is below our education but not our pride. We are Americans, we don’t quit and neither does Sarah. When she knows something is right, she does it. She doesn’t have to know who the ambassador to Timbuktoo is, she has to get three things right: let Americans who work keep more of what they make, keep us strong against those who would do us harm and break up the Fed. We can handle the rest at the state and local level.
Don’t forget CHEAP ENERGY!
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a President who says what she really thinks? In this upside down and backwards world created by the Left, it makes perfect sense that the only politician who would have the stones to go up against the liberal machine and its lapdog press would be a woman.
As for the rest of the GOP–man up.
AMEN to your post Ten. Vol.
PALIN/ALLEN in 2012
correction
SARAH PALIN / LT. COL. ALLEN WEST in 2012
I hope the Lt. Col. scares the crap out of the Dems in the House just the way he did with the Iraqi suspect. Nothing like the fear of god to get the truth out and cause them to get religion!
Palin/West 2012
Cuda & the Colonel
That ticket is what the Left is afraid of.
It will win as long as Sarah picks Allan West right away and can get a full six month campaign against Obama.
She will win the following states with West: IN, OH, VA, NC, FL.
For the last needed state, she needs one of the following: NV, NM, CO, IA, WI, or NH.
Obama is already polling at (-8) in New Hampshire. I can see her taking NH back.
Wisconsin has gone GOP. Sarah could win that state if the GOP focuses their efforts mostly on GOTV and the ground game.
Iowa I believe will go to Sarah. The shine of O is gone there.
She can win in Colorado because Buck proved in a bad messed up governor race that probably hurt his Senate run, that he still finished close to Bennett, a Dem who was a decent tactition who pulled to the middle hard.
New Mexico has a new GOP governor who is a woman and if she does well, they may want to take a chance with another sensible woman.
Nevada I’m not sure about due to the powerful machine and that the GOP is pretty squishy and corrupt there.
My point is that Sarah is already very close to winning the election based on the numbers.
She will not lose any of the states McCain won and is likely to get the five eastern states that finished close but are very unhappy with Obama. Obama’s favorability rating in Ohio is only around 40%.
It is the battleground states where the election will be won via the numbers although part of the campaign is directed nationally.
If Sarah picks Marco Rubio as VP she will take Florida handily and at least 15-20% og Hispanic support from Obama.
This is Sarah’s moment like Hillary’s moment was 2004. If she let this moment pass, Marco and Jeb will take care in 2016.
But we need Rubio here in Florida (that’s the same problem I have with running Christie – besides the fact that Christie isn’t socon enough for the socons – NJ needs him.) We need good Governors and Senators and Reps in place too. We can’t just take back the presidency – it’s got to be Federal Senate/House and State Senate/House/Governors too – all of them – or we’ll get nowhere fast.
Sarah can take Georgia,South Carolina,alabama,mississippi,Tennessee,
Arkansas and maybe Texas and Louisiana and with LT Col Allen West on
the ticket Florida….She would capture most all the southern states
with pride from the good old boys for we already know what she would
bring to the office….
Our kind of woman, you betcha…….
TO TENNVOL. If there is a line a-forming, I would like to be added to
it’s growth. Am up in yrs,but, sure am willing
I am ever more of the opinion that not only is Sarah Heath Palin electable and worthy of the presidency, she’s the only plausible candidate the GOP could offer us in 2012. The alternatives are either part of the Old Guard Establishment that’s proved itself far too willing to expand the federal government, or are disqualified by their youth (Rubio), provincial considerations (Christie, Pawlenty, Daniels), or sheer skullcrackedness (Huckabee).
Regarding Palin Derangement Syndrome, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush were subjected to comparable treatment both before and after rising to the Oval Office. It appears to have energized those men. I don’t think it will stop Palin — particularly since her popular appeal increases with every slander the Old Media emits against her. If she has a truly formidable enemy to defeat, it will be the Old Guard Republican Establishment, which will assuredly put all its forces to the task of denying her.
Palin could have been a huge asset to the McCain campaign. McCain’s strategists forbade her to do what she could — what a VP candidate has traditionally done for many years. As the presidential nominee, she won’t be under that constraint…and I imagine, neither will her running mate.
Palin in 2012!
Surely, prudent political strategists should only rarely heed political advice from political adversaries. The Democrats are crawling out of the woodwork and falling over themselves to inform Republicans that the popular and personable Mrs Palin is both unelectable and made of poor stuff, yet her becoming mayor and then governor controverts the first assessment and the content of her recent speeches belies the second.
I warrant that the Democrats’ recommendations are more a sign that they are frightened of her electability than of their disinterested desire to help their opponents.
A well thought out and articulate post. Thank you for sharing your views!
Thank you for the dose of sanity.
Millions of American women and other women around the world would have tears in their eyes the moment their hear “I, Sarah Louise Palin , do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States…so help me God”
There’ll be plenty of male Palinistas who’ll be crying tears of joy on that day as well!
“I will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States…so help me God.”
Millions of patriotic, intelligent Americans of either gender will tear up–because we know she means it!
Anti-American terrorists may tear up too–and head for the hills. She may be our new Reagan, and some of us remember what happened in Tehran at noon the day he was inaugurated. (I hope we remember).
Did Obama say “So help me God”? He is a known atheists
If he said it, he was practicing taqiyya.
And I got a few just reading that. I’d definitely be one of those millions. And you know what, I’m not a SoCon. Just a serious FisCon. So she’s got at least one of those annoying independent types behind her (and I know a number of others too).
She’s got her priorities straight. She might try some things I’d disapprove of – but I don’t think she’d do so till she got the country back on its feet first. She’s got common sense. She knows you can’t spend what you don’t have – something most politicians today seem to deny.
Yes, sad to say, if she runs, Sarah WILL garner millions of votes just because she’s a woman, in violation of the STATED goals of feminism, that is, equality.
Just like Obama owes his election to racism, Sarah would owe her election to feminism.
That’s not a GOOD thing.
If you think that Sarah Palin is electable, watch her Katy Currick interview, then her Charlie Gibson interview, then her Resignation Speech. She comes off as clueless in the interviews and a true airhead in the Resignation. If she runs you will see them over and over and over. Self inflicted mortal wounds she cannot overcome.
She is a nice lady and she has grown on me, but the only person on the national scene less qualified to be president is Barak Obama. This is a big country. We can do lots better than either Sarah or Barak. Please no more “Dynasty” candidates. No Clintons, no Bushes, no Kennedys, no Romneys.
A lot of us are growing weary of “no more this, no more that.” Name some alternatives.
I’ll leave who else to you, it is early. All I am certain of at this point is that Palin’s self inflicted wounds with Currik, Gibson and her Resignation speach make her unelectable and I don’t think we are well served by our new political dynasties in the making.
Agreed. As a conservative Christian, I like a lot about Sarah. MOST of her values are right on the money, and her integrity is a breath of fresh air.
But the truth is, she’s a lightweight. She doesn’t have what it takes.
She should have run for that Senate seat. She’d probably do a good job in the Senate, and we wouldn’t have that twit in the Senate for the next 6 years.
Currik was a trap and Sarah will get a rematch
Gibson was nothing and irrelevant and
the resignation was a forced political tactical
move that saved her position to run for POTUS albeit
awkward speech wise.
Get used to the phrase “Madam President”
Who is this ‘Currik’ person you keep referring to? It can’t be Katie Couric because no one would dare call anyone else stupid while being incapable of spelling one of the names they’re using to establish someone’s stupidity.
Couldn’t even google it?
The left fears Palin more than they fear the US’s position as an exceptional nation.
This is precisely why the polls are being skewed to make sure that she appears non electable. Placing little bombs into the public discourse, through skewed ‘facts’, is their stock in trade.
Be that as it may, Palin is so far the only one who can right this ship of state-no pun intended.
For IF the US is to regain its superpower stature-which it currently is on the precipice of losing-the POTUS will have to be free to lead from the position of a true patriot.
While there are others in the running who are proud Americans too-Gingrich and Huckabee come to mind-they are too used to playing political games to be able to thwart the left’s putsch.
A common sense, no nonsense, true patriot is DESPERATELY needed at the helm. Surely she has the basics down pat,much more so than Obama.At least she knows that there aren’t 57 states,(for heavens sake)and so on.
While Obama was puffed up as the smartie President, it is painfully obvious that his smarts lies in styling, but in substance-NOT so much!!
I will exercise my vote for Palin from abroad if she runs, surely many fellow US immigrants in Israel will do the same.Most view her VERY favorably from Israel,the western heart of the Islamist Middle East.
GO Sarah!
Should she be the candidate, I’ll vote for her. I’m not going to vote any of the RINOs, so who is left? We live in interesting times, and we deserve the best this country can offer. I seriously doubt we’ll get him/her.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/8230415/Sarah-Palins-popularity-rating-takes-a-dive.html
“Of her main potential rivals, two thirds of Republicans questioned stated that they were somewhat or very likely to support Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, while 59 per cent said the same of Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor.”
Just 33pc Alaskans have positive opinion of Sarah Palin http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-115153.html
Nice to live in a bubble of self /group admiration as in exclusive gentlemens club the US Congress.
These are “Republicans” preference for candidate? What a boon is a selective memory. Of the stars in the political theatre of the US in the past half-century. “Representative” from MASSACHUSETTS, voted permanently to the US Senate by Massachusetts electors only because, after his life-time of debauchery, he ceded his chance to become the heir to Camelot with his heroism at Chappaquiddick. Who played every card possible to destroy the cohesiveness of the US Citizenry, using that litany “for the good of the People”.
Then the lothario and Kennedy clone from ARKANSAS, so charmng, so witty that in “impeachment hearings” he broke up the “examiners ” with the hilarity of his word games in “the definition of the word IS”. Plus the history of his actions while Governor,winked at by administrators, in Arkansas?
Are we to suppose that these 2/3 who would vote for the men from Massachusettes or Arkansas count among the “best and brightest”. An elite group to which bourgeios behavioral restraints are anathema ?
It takes all kinds of people to make a world. But do they have to be selected by their Political Parties for the American People to choose to
“represent them? DO they really “represent” the American People?
A large section of America has become a decadent Society whether you like to admit it or not, and is encouraged in this by an even greater decadent “Free Media” that promotes decadence as the ideal to strive for.
Someone will have to face the Media, and very soon too, before America self-destructs in the glory of “riches and pursuit of liberty and happiness for all” virtual reality nonsense.
At least half of Americans are decent hard-working mothers and fathers; they need to get their voices heard.
My bet is on Miss Sarah. She may as well go for it in 2012 and let America once and for all face up to the real issues or go under with the decadent half.
Miss?
…still having trouble with the language matthew. I am not referring to spelling mistakes (I manage enough of them).
…colloquialism. or are you just trying to use alinsky tactics? that is a rhetorical question matthew ..no need to respond.
“Miss?”
As in, you miss the point? You’re fun to read.
Actually, that’s Miz Sarah, and it’s pronounced with a Southern drawl
On an e-mail group in which I participate, I was the one who successfully handicapped her pick as the VP nominee in ’08, expressing my “fondness for the small-government dark horse, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.”
All things considered, I suspect it might take a McCain-like stumble for her to lose were she the candidate. I expect someone to take some kind of Gloria Allred-Meg Whitman shot at her, though Sarah’s mettle is up to that kind of thing.
It’s early, and Sarah’s going to keep on being Sarah. That means continuing to be Presidential material on the merits, and continuing to sharpen her political game. It’s going to be an interesting two years.
I’m already practicing my “Suck it up, crybabies!” for when the gals ’round these parts get their first woman president, and it’s the “redneck” Sarah
What is the obsession with PJM running a story every 3-4 weeks about whether or not Sarah Palin should seek the republicrat nomination for the presidency?
Just how many times do we have to have this discussion?
Ronald Reagan met with extreme hostility and ridicule before and during his presidency.
I remember one LP record at the time that was met with high hilarity. The title on the sleeve was: The Wisdom of Ronald Reagan, and when the record was played all that was heard was the hiss of the needle.
Subsequent to his departure he was attributed with being one of the people who saved the world from Marxist slavery, and with wisdom, sagacity and insight.
I don’t think Sarah Palin should be put off by a negative press.
She will bring an tremendous degree of honesty, wisdom and resultant prosperity to the US and to the West if elected.
One can only hope, for the West’s sake, that she goes for President and wins.
God bless you ma’am, and all success to you!
In one of the most male chauvinist acts of all times John McCain marched Sarah Palin out of nowhere to be the GOP’s “check this out” death blow to Obama, Hillary and the liberal Democrat Party.
She was supposed to be the good looking, long and tanned legs GOP Politics Illustrated front cover and centerfold woman that did everything she was told to do by “daddy” without asking any questions. Biden fits that profile perfectly for Obama – go here Boy, go there Boy etc.
Daddy quickly found out that Sarah Palin wasn’t about to be his personal property, nor the GOP’s magic hood ornament. Without a single exception the establishment Republicans live in the stone ages because they are still convinced that they can make her lay down and shut up if they send in the right rooster.
Thing is Sarah Palin made it very clear that she has her own ideas about who seduces her and she isn’t one bit afraid of the wrath of primitive GOP spouses that will stop baking cookies if their man takes a liking to Sarah come voting booth time.
Mr. Solway provides all of the right answers as to why no one except Sarah Palin is the right, best choice for the GOP and America.
Whether America still has enough testosterone or has become a nation of wussies; as the Governor of Pennsylvania put it remains to be seen.
Watching a prissy Obama prance sure makes it hard not to doubt.
Sarah has my vote and my wife is in absolute awe of the woman.
Then, jb, I would say you are very lucky to have a very smart wife who is full of self-confidence and high self-esteem. So many women diss Sarah because they are jealous of her looks and/or her accomplishments, especially knowing that she’s done it without riding the coattails of her husband (a la Hillary) or her father (a la Murkowski). You would not believe the numbers of women who won’t vote for a good-looking woman because they don’t like her hairdo. They don’t like Sarah because of really important reasons like, they’re pissed because they don’t have a hubby as cute and/or as supportive as Todd (or in the case of many caustic liberal women, they may not have been able to land a hubby at all), or her sunny upbeat attitude rubs them wrong, or her “can-do-it-all-and-have-it-all” perspective of a great career AND a fulfilling family life makes them feel inadequate, etc. really important reasons like that.
I agree wholeheartedly with Commentators 7, 8, and 9. And I think it is time to take the fight directly to the Left and their MSM smokescreen. Sarah would take them on head-on, as she would take on Obamallini. We’ll find out via the primaries how Sarah performs in the thick of the fight, compared to the other Republican aspirants, but I think she’ll do very well, indeed. Only time will tell, of course. But Obama proved in 2008 that, if nothing else, old ideas on how to run a Prez campaign are, well, out-of-date.
I like Palin a lot, but I don’t think she should run for president. If she were smart, really smart, she would wait and show how the Republicans will disappoint the public on most of their campaign promises. Then, with this proof in hand, she should start a third, CONSERVATIVE, party. She could head it up and recommend the candidates, just like she did in the 2010 election. I know, I know, it’s a long shot, but if ever the country was ready for a third party, it’s just about now. We’ll see how things turn out by 2012, but I don’t think they will be that much different than they are right now. If that’s the case, a third party could really clean up in a few years. Just look how fast the Tea Parties grew in just two years and how powerful they are now.
Sure. Yet another call for a third party. Let’s also bring back feudalism, the Bull Moose Party, mercantilism, and the gold standard. Why do folks keep preaching this tired old canard? We are not a parliamentary system and therefore no third party will EVER be viable. EVER. It would take a once in a millennium perfect storm of political weirdness to secure the situation where one could take off, and even then it would simply coalesce back into a 2 party left and right system over the next election or 2. To believe otherwise is to be totally and willfully ignorant of the real political opinions of America. If enough of a percentage of America was ACTUALLY and PERMANENTLY socially conservative enough to sustain such a party, then the GOP would have drifted further right long ago. What you describe as ‘real’ conservatives represent AT MOST 25% of the population, and even then there are splits and fights. You live in fantasyland.
We are not a parliamentary system and therefore no third party will EVER be viable. EVER.
You madam, are ignorant of the history of this very country. I invite you to check out the republican and democratic parties as examples of them parties that will NEVER EVER in a millenia be viable.
1 – Not female.
2 – You didn’t read the post.
3 – I TAUGHT American History for years. You missed my point.
I’ll say it again, more clearly this time. Since we are not parliamentary, the nature of our system is for the general left right split of the people to coalesce into two large voting blocs. What forces this is the separate nature of the three branches in our government – Britain chooses it’s Executive from it’s Legislative, we don’t – and the set terms of office.
Therefore, when issues of the day force the splintering of a party (like the Whigs or the Dixiecrats), the other party will have huge electoral gains while the divided party realigns, reforms, or disbands to create a new version of itself. However, when the smoke clears there will ALWAYS be two parties left standing, along with a large handful of tiny little puritans and extremists who won’t compromise and join a bigger one. The best THESE have ever done is the odd congressional seat or governorship, or to throw the next election to the other side, like Nader did to Gore.
The current Tea Party is simply yet another in a long line of grass roots voter revolts demanding that the party that most reflects it do a better job of ACTUALLY reflecting it. To that end, it helped to defeat multiple Republicans (termed RINOs)in the GOP primaries, and then either won or nearly won many actual races. Also, like it’s predecessor cousins, it is chaotic and put forward some candidates that were wackily unacceptable to the mainstream electorate. O’Donnell is an easy example of this, and the fact that Nevada held it’s nose in THIS election re-elect Reid is further proof. The same with Mays in Colorado and the basket case in Alaska. By demanding a level of political purity in candidates unmatched by the majority of the TOTAL electorate in the polity of a region, the tea Party lost some races it should have won.
I say again that many, many people in the Tea Party (which is famous for involving many first-timers in the process) don’t understand or want to accept that the rest of the country is not as conservative as THEY are, and will not move as far to the right as the Tea Party would like. We just HAD an election in 2008 where a pissed off electorate voted in a socialist because they were so mad at Congress and Bush. Obama of course immediately acted like a left-wing loon and the country exploded back the other way in 2010. If we nominate a bible-thumping anti-abortion hard core social Republican in 2012, we will pretty much guarantee Obama’s Re-election. The country is 80% dedicated left and/or right, with 20% moderates who hate enough of what both stand for to not sign on long term with anyone – the swing voter. The lefties will NEVER vote for your dream candidate, and a small handful of disenchanted or worried moderates will tip the next election the wrong way if we nominate the wrong firebrand.
Hopefully, the Tea Party Movement is enough to force the GOP back down the correct path for a generation. However, if the history you accuse me of not understanding is any guide, we will (1) have to do it again in 20-40 years, and (2) the Tea Party will eventually fall apart as all such grass roots movements do. They did after the 1850s, the State’s Rights Crowd again collapsed after it’s time in the mid 20th century, and the Hippies did after Vietnam.
To summarize – mass populist grass roots movements can effect great shifts and change, but our system is designed NOT to let these movements become third parties. Americans (by and large) would almost always rather vote for a party that gets them some of what they want than a for a ‘pure’ party that never wins elections. Our hero Reagan was no extremist. Goldwater shifted the party, but he got clobbered. There will NOT be a third party. Palin just might have it to convince the 20-odd percent she needs to gain to give her a shot, but that is an uphill battle.
Yes, and I’m sure people like you still have t-shirts that say “I’m a Whig Party member” on them. You sound like nothing ever changes in this country. People like you also didn’t think much of the Tea Party and yet in less than two years, LESS THAN TWO YEARS, its members took over an entire national election and handed the Democrats their biggest loss in about 60 years. So just keep saying “no.” Fools like you probably are still looking for a good Whig Party candidate to nominate.
Things can change in America. You just have to have the nerve and the backbone to do it. Grow up.
I refer you to the above comments posted in reply to the other guy, but I do want to clear up a thing or two.
No, I (or many others just like me) do NOT hate the Tea Party. We appreciate it, are grateful for it, and many even love it. What ‘we’ DO hate is your blinkered naivete. Collectively, you are novices, and it shows. You nominate and back some candidates because you love what they say even though they are so obviously unelectable (and in some cases, frankly NUTS). Politics is a deeply complex and generally disgusting series of processes, and the influence of the pure novice can be at best annoying and at worst disastrous. The fact that you not only reached the wrong conclusion about me and what I wrote, but that you LEAPED to that conclusion is the epitome of that problem. The Tea Party can, has, and will be manipulated to some extent by it’s enemies. They simply sucker you into things.
No, you are not fools, and you are not children. But you don’t see friends or allies where they exist. the all-or-none and “either with us or against us” mentality of far too many of them, including you judging from that post, is a zero-sum tactic that NEVER works in the long term. The hard right stayed home in 2008 because McCain was a RINO. Could he POSSIBLY have been worse than they guy we got? America is NOT the right wing nation you want it to be, it is at best center-right. It always has been. You must maintain your vigilance and efforts to keep convincing people to move in your direction, but no long term effort to force it ever has or ever can work. I’m afraid that *I* am not the one who needs to ‘grow up’.
Rambam, I sincerely doubt you taught anything, let alone history. I think you’re one of those usual far-left trolls trying to destroy any idea that the Tea Parties are an amazing and powerful political force in this country and that they could, if united, form a very powerful Third Party that could actually replace the Republican Party. Your big tomes miss so many points that they simply prove you are terrified of the Tea Parties and the potential powers they possess.
You actually said, “America is NOT the right wing nation you want it to be, it is at best center-right. It always has been.” Oooo, what an astute observation, bud. I never said that America WAS a conservative nation. But if a party was created that actually FOLLOWED conservative values and principles, it could (especially in this political environment) do better than the liberals who are now running the Democratic Party. It would offer Americans a clear choice, rather than liberal Democrats or the Republicans, which these days are basically nothing more than conservative Democrats.
Why do you think Republicans did so well in 2010? Because they had better TV ads? It was because they were returning to a conservative platform and this not only resonated with Conservatives, but with a lot of independents as well. And if people like you “DO hate our blinkered naivete,” well it won us some important Senatorial seats, like Marco Rubio and Rand Paul, not to mention about 63 House seats, the biggest upset in about 70 years. Yes, we are sooooooo naive, and we kicked some serious butt in less that two years. Not many political movements can say that.
If you actually cracked open a history book, you will see that major Third Party movements always come out of some sort of political upheavel or social movement in this country. I think we just hit one, with America’s total rejection of liberalism. Another statistic you people never seem to talk about is only 20% of this country call themselves “liberals.” Although I wasn’t a math major in school (and I wasn’t a teacher, as you claim), that leaves 80% of the voters either as conservative or independent, people who could actually vote conservative as they did in the last election. If the Tea Parties actually stick with their conservative principles, it is the Republicans who could fade into history, or be absorbed by the Tea Parties.
I’m still getting you that Whig Party T-shirt. You can wear it, along with your Obama in 2012 T-shirt. Deal with your inner liberalism, kid.
Oh, and Rambam, I just couldn’t resist also addressing the usual RINO/Liberal line you used. You said, “The hard right stayed home in 2008 because McCain was a RINO. Could he POSSIBLY have been worse than they guy we got? America is NOT the right wing nation you want it to be, it is at best center-right.” This is the standard canard sung by you RINOs and Independents. If McCain was such a “centrist” and such a “progressive Republican,” which is nothing more than a conservative Democrat, then why didn’t the independents simply flock to him? Why didn’t McCain win in a landslide, picking up all those “valuable” independents, RINOs, and blue dog Democrats? McCain should have been a moderate’s wet dream come true, as I’m sure he was to you. Yet he lost, and badly too. True, it wasn’t a landslide, but it was still a big enough of a margin for the liberal Democrats to claim that the victory was a “mandate” for the American people to go liberal. So how’s that “Hope And Change” working out for you now, Mr. “You need to be a centrist to get a win today” in politics?
Americans are yearning for a clear choice and the elections of 2010 proved that. People like you WANT Republicans to continue nominating losers like McCain so that the Democrats will keep on winning. The past election proved that if you actually STAND for something, you can win. So yes, politics IS a zero-sum game where if you don’t stick to your principles you will lose. Ronald Reagan proved that if you give people a clear choice, they will flock to you in droves. He had to drag the Republicans kicking and screaming into being conservatives again. If the Tea Parties can do that today, great. But it’s the RINO Republicans like you who have to give in to us, not the other way around. If Repbulicans remain the party of McCain, you will continue to lose elections.
So if you actually support the Tea Parties, which I sincerely doubt, you will actually stand for something and not go for the “centrism” which was a proven loser in 2008 with McCain. The only way you will get change in Washington today is by taking over the Republican party. If they will not come along with us, we’ll simply go someplace else, like a new Third Party.
The Democrats would love nothing more than a conservative 3rd party as it would ensure Obama’s re-election.
“a third party could really clean up in a few years”
Eventually it’s going to be a third party that will save America. The RINOs and current Rs have led us to this mess and definitely are not the cure.
I’d rather see this ship sink and us start from scratch than give CPR to the Republicans for the next ten to twenty years.
If the American people are so stupid that they do not wake up and change matters, there is not much we can do about it. We ought to at least give it a try.
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result …
What would be the point of going through all of those contortions to prove that RINOs are RINOs, leftists are leftists, and the difference is only one of degree? We have an electable former Governor, there’s a National Election coming in less than two years, and the push for a 3rd party right now looks like an attempt to skew an election so that leftists can hold the oval office for another four years. Forget that. The former Governor of Alaska has my vote. If she chooses Lt. Col. Allen West as her running mate it should be a shoo-in.
I like Sarah!
Undoubtedly.
But, the main thing is to get Obama out!!
Urgent.
There isn’t much to be said on this (at this stage) that hasn’t been. Most of the GOP would like her, or at least accept her. No other conservative candidate is really out there yet, just a few names that look pretty weak. Most of the rest of America’s voters think she is a dummy or a joke – spare me the defense, that IS what THEY think, and you know it. Therefore, right now I’d have to bet against her winning the White House.
However, any political junkie know it’s WAY too early to put money on anybody. I’d advise to jump in with both barrels and run. Let’s see her expose herself to the MSM and Leftist dragons of the process, and see how she looks. If she as ‘stupid’ and ‘crazy’ as the PDS people claim, than she will flame out. If not, She’ll take the day. Two thoughts occur, however…
1 – To the Tea Party types who might read this: If she runs, fights, and emerges as ridiculous as O’Donnell did, then do us all a favor and back someone who can win at the convention. We need Obama OUT. This is no time for your all-or-nothing kamikaze routine.
2 – If she emerges as competent and actually wins the thing, just imagine the fun we are going to have with all the neocommie Feminist groups who care more about socialism than they do about women’s rights. NOW is gonna have to reveal itself as the joke it is if it backs Barry instead of Sarah. Such a race will go a long way to forcing a LOT of idiot single-issue voters (and and single-issue voter IS an idiot) to re-examine their adolescent political stances. Hell, win or lose, this next election is gonna be entertaining – many of the old ideas and paradigms will be exploded. So may old-school politicos are scrambling to try to figure out what lies to tell us now, that the gaffes and botched plays are gonna be thick. This is gonna be fun. Bring on 2012!
I couldn’t have said it better…..so I won’t.
Sarah Palin will not only have my vote she will have $4,800 of my money.
I watched in horror as the Dancing-With-The-Stars crowd elected a man whose only qualification was the ability to read a speech, written by someone else, from a teleprompter. He is an unprincipled (or more accurately, wrong principled) orator.
Reagan had the conservative core principles and the ability to communicate across the political spectrum. He could convincingly express the reasons for his actions and execute them as well.
I have great respect for Palin. I would proudly call her a friend and be happy to have her as a neighbor – but not as Commander-in Chief. She does not, in my opinion, have the executive presence nor the polished communication skills needed for that position.
“She does not, in my opinion, have the executive presence nor the polished communication skills needed for that position.”
I think that’s a rather unfair criticism since Sarah Palin routinely addresses her crowds without the benefit of a teleprompter, simply referring to hand written notes, or, (chuckle), notes written on her hand. This is a person quite clearly able to think on her feet unlike the simpleton currently in the WH. I would pay good money to watch a Palin/Obama debate. Watching her acceptance speech on 2008, she had me at “hello”. The old RINO McCain never captivated an audience as well as Sarah did that day.
@20. Mud Guru; thank you, well done, sir. She will have some of my my money as well.
JB, it is not criticism. It is my personal opinion.
She does not, in my opinion, have the executive presence nor the polished communication skills needed for that position.”
Reagan was never thought of as a great communicator while he was running for or pres or during his pres. that was only something that was realized through history and time, looking back, we know realize what we had then. George Bush wasn’t articulate yet he won his nomination and pres. McCain was a RINO dolt.
I think too many people pay too much attention admiring people say things good but mean absolutely nothing. speaking into a camera or to a bunch of liberals either in TV interviews or press corps doesn’t make you a good leader or executive.
Compare if you will, Teddy Roosevelt and Sarah Palin (especially in her new show). America is sick and tired of the “we know better than you” crowd…who were raised in leftist cities and educated in leftist universities. We want someone from outside the norm. A pioneer, an adventurist. Someone who treasures what is great about America and Americans. Someone who sees that elected office is about serving not about finder-wagging.
Sarah Palin will make a terrific President. She will take the bold steps necessary to stop the unbridled growth of our federal government. She will dismantle the leftist machine. She will restore America’s pride and strength, once again.
Hitch your wagon to the Palin train. All aboooooard!
Here’s something to chew over. What if George Soros and his sinister syndicate have decided Sarah Palin would be the best candidate for Obama to run against? Imagine the possibilities for permanently splitting the country, white vs black, city vs suburban, political machine vs tea party. Wedge issues galore! It would maim and weaken the country in ways the left hopes will bring about the ultimate fall its analysis has long foretold. A Palin victory would be meaningless in the ensuing collapse and chaos. Soros would never even think of such a thing because it’s so wrong? Really? Maybe I’m being too conspiratorial, but tell me where I’m wrong.
You’re wrong because Palin isn’t divisive at all, and she wouldn’t govern in any way like little lenin has governed. As a matter of fact, conservatives in general don’t play the race and class warfare games that the leftists play. You have bought into the media spin about Palin. Try listening to what she says.
As a side point, little lenin has spent about 90% of his time creating divisions in the country, and about 10% of his time implementing his insane policies. Dividing the country is the job description of a community organizer. In contrast, Dubya spent ZERO percent of his time creating divisions in the country.
nicely put
regards
No, he spends the 10% on vacation while his corrupt admin carries out his socialist policies. If their efforts don’t go well back at the ranch, he extends his vacation. If they go well, e.g. if it was easily shoved down the throats of the people, he comes back, gets up at the podium and takes all the credit.
hear them groooooooooooowl….
~A mama grizzly is a conservative woman with “common sense,” as Sarah Palin puts it, someone who “rises up” to protect her children when she sees them endangered by bad policies in Washington. She is fearless, and that, in combination with her femaleness, makes her scary—a new kind of political predator. She will take on any foe and, the implication is, rip him or her to shreds.~
ILOVETHISWOMAN >You betcha!
What is left out of this conversation are her accomplishments in only 2 and 1/2 years as Governor of Alaska. Here are some highlights:
1) Shortly after taking office, having experience as the Alaskan Oil & Gas Conservation Commissioner, Sarah Palin saw collusion and corruption from officials in the Alaskan Republican party, and pushed through new ethics laws. (These are the very same laws which opponents attempted to financially ruin her later.)
2) She passed ACES, giving Alaskan citizens profit-sharing of oil revenues, according to the Alaskan Constitution.
3) She passed AGIA, the largest contract in HISTORY, between Exxon/Mobile and TransCanada pipeline, to build a natural gas pipeline to the Lower 48. This had been mired in red tape for over 30 YEARS.
These are only THREE of many accomplishments that Sarah Palin pushed through as Governor. If you haven’t heard about them, it’s because the Media doesn’t want you to know how accomplished a person she is — with the biggest can-do attitude since Ronald Reagan.
If you’re unaware of her political philosophy, she spells it out quite nicely in her new book, “America By Heart”.
Right on rightmindedmom.
I first saw Sarah Palin on August 29, 2008 when John McCain introduced her as his surprise choice for running mate. I knew immediately that she was the real deal. Watching her speak, I was really excited, not just by what she said, but by the way she said it. It was the first time I have ever been really excited by a politician. I have seen both her high and low points over the 2 years since then, and I am more convinced now then ever that she is a true leader and would not only be a great president, but perhaps the greatest president of this cnetury. Palin 2012!
SAME HERE!
And to add God’s touch…a double rainbow appeared over Lake Superior that evening of her nomination where my husband and I were celebrating our 30th wedding anniversary vacation. Palin is the real God approved deal;)
Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth. Genesis 9:16
Thank you for another finely reasoned piece, Mr. Solway.
Sarah Palin
authentic change and genuine hope
If we are not snobs, we shouldn’t care one way or the other if our President has an average IQ, doesn’t know the names of foreign leaders, has no interest in culture and mispronounces many words. What we ask of a President is TO LEAD his/her people to a better place. If you think SP is that person, then vote for her.
All you have to do is look at the recent lame duck session.Barack Obama was toast,the democrats were finished.Liberalism was dead in america.Mitch McConnell,and the establishment republicans.resucitated them breathed life back into them.And propped their majesty,barack obama back up on his throne.Remember these same establishment republicans were licking barack obama’s boots,calling barack obama a genius just a year ago.Krauthammer,rove,newt gingrich.hayley barbour,mitch daniels,And especially mike huckabee who still says barack obama is a great leader.who loves this country.But said sarah palin,mike pence,jim demint,ronald reagan,rush limbaugh,mark levin’sean hannity,and ann coulter conservatives are extremist.all are new world order false prophet,false constitutional doctrine republicans.that also believe that those who are fugitives from justice here in this country illegally.Should be rewarded for their lawlessness.Inspite of their oath(Perjurers).to protect this country,and it’s citizens from all foreign invaders,and enemies foreign,and domestic.All these establishment republicans,took part in playing the liberal race card accusations.Under bush,and when arizona passed their law.because the federal government,and leaders on both sides of the aisle are bought and paid for by anarchist like larasa,And Liberation theology lawless churches,And Other fake prostitute religious organizations.Sarah Palin,jim demint,mike pence,michelle bachman,and very few other republican leaders,are the only leaders who actively condemned this invasion against the american people.Even favorite new leader marco rubio called arizona law racist puttin the color of one’s skin over the law of the land,and sovereignty of this country.Americans are too quick to annoint our leaders based on hype,flash,smooth talk,and glamour,Instead Of Principals,character,courage,honor,truth,visionary’s,etical,and moral values.Without these things.you just repeat,and rinse,over,and over again.just as they annointed scott brown from ted kennedy massachusetts,And gov christie from new jersey.who is against the peoples right to bear arms.Social liberals all;While sarah palin is accused of shooting her own food.as our founders did.davy crockett,and daniel boone did.both conservatives by the way.These establishment republicans,As do the democrat party.that the establishment republicans,are,and have always been.Lap dogs for the left.All believe that others,(The Taxpayer)provide their food for them.They hate sarah palin for the same reason the same despised ronald reagan.They both stood for duty to,and love of country.While the rest are all about their own eye on the prize.Which ronald reagan,And sarah palin threatened to upset their comfy status quo;Good ol’ boy,and good ol’girl network.Taking their throne back from these pimps,harlots,and human traffickers of rights,lives,liberties,and property.For their own power.And giving it back to the rightful heirs.Those who earned it.Jimmy Joe”The Liarfryer”
Please throw in a couple paragraphs…
The main stream Socialist media of the United States will continue its conspiracy against the people of the United States, and if they can’t find anything incriminating, shall just make something up about Sarah, or anyone like her.
If Barry Soetero is ‘electable’, then anyone in Somalia that desires the job of President of the United States is ‘electable’.
This ‘electable’ crap is just another buzz word conjured up by the Democrat/Socialist Party and their media office of divine service.
You’re making a mistake with that line of reasoning. Your analogy is amusing but irrelevant.
Frankly, what PJM readers think doesn’t matter. Anybody posting here is in the most knowledgeable 1% of the electorate.
What matters is the other 99%.
And much as we all hate the MSM, they matter as well. That doesn’t mean that because they say x, we say y; but it does mean that they have a serious impact on the 99%.
Don’t be naive. Electability is absolutely critical; not the msm’s definition and distortions, but what the independents REALLY think about the Republican candidate.
Personlly, my opinion of Sarah is good and improving. But TRUE electability is the most important factor of all. See my post about 20 down if your are interested in why.
See comment #30: If there’s a mistake in ‘reasoning’, please explain. The Democrat/Socialist media in the U.S. today, is the most proficient enemy of the American people. Second is the unions. In my H.O. (IMHO) Congress is next, because they couldn’t function on their agenda as well without this support.
Know your enemy.
The error in reasoning, a serious one, is saying that electability doesn’t matter.
It’s easy to prove to yourself. Suppose that a perfect candidate exists in all areas that matter; policy, experience, temperment, knowledge, intelligence, whatever your criteria are. But then also suppose the person has a fatal flaw that can’t be overcome, a horrible crime early in life for example, or god forbid, the person is ugly (the most certain absolute disqualifier).
Supporting that person might be noble, but it would be a disaster. Obama would win, and the US would become Venezuala.
The very reason that you got what you did is because the donkey party had nobody else with the media appeal of BHO. If you’re counting on the media to elect the next, then get ready for more of the same. Their bottom line is showing if you haven’t noticed or otherwise there would not have been even a little change. Boycotts of all products advertised will get the eye of shareholders and all private support will become more obvious. What you purchase is still up for grabs. MSM is not….
Neurotics go unnoticed among their own kind. Even Fox “fair and balanced” has limited expose with a foul smelling money trail. They’re drawing their own line in the dust. Where will you stand?
P.S. If Sarah ISN’T ELECTABLE, then the Democrat/Socialist Media ISN’T DEFEATABLE.
AMEN Cybergeezer.
Cybergeezer makes an excellent point. The media mantra of “unelectable” was notably absent when Dole and McCain ran. I agree with some of her views, but on the whole she’s another holier than thou social con like W, which didn’t work out well for the economy or for liberty in general. Still, I agree with several of her views and am unaware of anything she’s said that would make her “unelectable.”
Can some of the anti-Palinites please respond with examples other than 3rd party opinions as to why she is “unelectable”? Here you go Mathew, your chance for more than one word posts, don’t waste it.
Copied and re posted here from my comment over at American Spectator:
IMHO, one of the the largest drain on the American economy is the huge, and mostly unnecessary, transfer of American dollars overseas in the form of Petrodollars. We need a president who will unleash the energy, oil, and gas finders here at home. We have the technology, the manpower, the resources, and the power, if only we are willing and allowed to use it.
For example: Did you know that huge strides are being made in coal liquefaction, heretofore prohibitive expensive, but oil from coal costs are now in the $30/bbl range which is far less than the current $90/bbl we send to the middle east for a barrel of their oil. This is a tremendous savings over the cost for the much less efficient wind and solar efforts that are the apple of the greenie’s eye at the moment. So, ask yourself, who among the political contenders are making noises about a sound, solid, and sane domestic energy policy?
Offhand there’s a pretty little lady from Alaska who comes to mind.
yeah, i agree with you. imagine if we had Palin going over to the Asian Pacific financial conferences overseas in Seoul and spoke about how we would be paying down our debts by exporting oil and gas instead of importing it instead of going to the Chinese, bowing and asking for more money.
Nobody is guaranteed “electable”.
The GOP would be well advised to have a candidate that can truly connect and understands America.
Palin does what she says and has shown she has a moral compass. America would have a choice between another 4 years of Obama and the leftist agenda and Governor Sarah Palin. if it was truly between the two of them, do we still truly believe that Palin is “unelectable”?
“Moral compass”–you just summed up the most appealing electable quality Palin has.
insight and principle. As Jenkins writes, “she knows that America must be strong in order to be safe, and…that we must develop our own resources and end our dependence on foreign oil.”
AMEN. there has been a tide turning in the country. the majority does not want anymore policy wonks or wonkette from government policy school who say a lot yet mean little. Palin represents the average person. She’s principled and maybe she doesn’t know everything, her love of country matters and no doubt she will surround herself w/ those who support her agenda for a better America rather than the communists who surround this current president.
I recently read on another blog that Obama wanted McCain to run bc he was the easiest to beat. and that was true bc we all now that McCain is a RINO sad sack who couldn’t call out OBama and effectively pick apart his character background.
So as this author of this blog pointed out Obama’s camp is so intent on Romney being the republican nominee. Obama’s strategy with Hillary, and with McCain, was to adopt the same platform as his opponent. Do you remember the joint statement McCain and Obama issued on the economic crisis? -Obama and McCain Issue Joint Statement on the Economy- Obama pulled Hillary’s position papers and re-presented them almost verbatim, although he’d add great lakes in OR, and a few more states to add to his travel itinerary.
Obama’s strategy was to make the campaign less about issues and only about personality and the immeasurable qualities of hope and change.
Romney has got a big problem with Romney Care in MA. it didn’t work and whatever excuse he’s got for signing it into law, people wont buy it. Palin was the first to call Obama out on the death panels. she was laughed at but whadddya know? it looks like Death panels go re-entered into the language of Obamacare. The death panel and Obamacare, the bill that he promised to pass and did–yet the majority of Americans dont like or trust–may just be his Achilles heal. JML
“But is she electable?”
Only one way to find out.
I know I’d vote for her.
We’ll see how things stand a couple of years from now. If the economy perks up, Obambi’s got a good chance of getting re-elected. If our economic woes continue…he’s in deep, deep trouble, especially with the campaign in Afghanistan getting nowhere, and United States casualties going up and up and up. The leftist MSM is keeping that off the airwaves for now, but it could be a big issue two years from now.
I’m in. Look at the grifters, imbeciles , fools, and corruptocrats stinking up the hallowed halls of Washington. Palin is not considered a serious leader but Nancy Lugosi is. Our own Mugabe with his posse of leftist clowns is driving us off a cliff. Its time for a change, Palin/Petraeus with Chris Christie as Secretary of the Treasury, John Bolton as Secretary of State, Allen West as Secretary of Defense . How about Michael Savage as Press Secretary? Be a sweet change from Bozo the Gibbs.
“Nancy Lugosi”
LOL. That’s a good one. Haven’t heard that one before.
If I was Bela, I think I’d sue for defamation.
She’s the only one with the guts to endorse Paul Ryan’s Roadmap which says a lot to me about courage and the determination to address the only non-manufactured problem the country faces. And her other policy statements have been spot-on perfect as well.
Yet the problem will always remain that she makes quite a large segment of the country foam at the mouth.
It really comes down to risk assessment, and she is pretty high-risk.
The way I see it, our country is poised at the brink of disaster. The man in the White House is more dangerous to our survival than anything else that has happened in the last 400 years, including the Revolution, the Civil War and WWII. 2012 is all or nothing. Either he is evicted, or we become Venezuala. There aren’t any other choices. For that reason, I would gladly support Mickey Mouse if I thought he had the best change to defeat little lenin.
So for me, conservative views are good, but they are a distant second to electability. (and given my view of the situation, the only reason experience even enters the picture is because it impacts electability). EVERY candidate that has been mentioned is infinitely better than Obama on policy AND experience. Frankly, I have a hard time understanding why anybody slams any of the Republican candidates on policy, when almost everybody who does so would agree that the person they are slamming is far far superior to Obama.
And it’s too early to tell if Palin is electable. She has done a lot of things, imho, to make herself more electable, by humanizing herself and by being consistent, strong and forthright on the issues. In this case, I will be paying close attention to the polls for the next year, not to see whether she is the favorite of committed conservatives, but to see whether the independents are beginning to learn who she really is, rather than the distorted picture painted of her by the foaming-at-the-mouth msm.
I’ll bet the o-BUM-a makes a lot more people foam at the mouth then Sarah does. just the media doesn’t say it.
I will also bet there are a lot of people besides me that turn the channel whenever obama is on the TV.
Sarah’s biggest problem will be the elitist establishment republicans.
Conservative America has gotten into the mess it’s in by being cautious. I truly believe it’s time to change that. Desperate times, desperate measures.
I agree with your point, but it also isn’t wise to jump from the frying pan to the fire.
Sarah is doing great, lots of people love her, she is building a policy book and and a personal history book. But there are other good candidates as well, although none of them are perfect, including her.
The election is 23 months away, and the decision point on the candidates more than a year away. I’m willing to give it some time to play out.
My fear is that the primaries could become a shooting gallery, particularly with the msm throwing gasoline on the fire. I’m concerned people will overcommit, and if disapointed, make the worst voting decision in the country’s history by sitting out. If Palin refuses to slam or undermine her opponents, it could be the tipping point for me.
Oh, I totally agree, Proreason. I will root for the conservative candidate who has the best chance of defeating the Nightmare on Pennsylvania Ave. I always believe in keeping all options open until I see as much of the lay of the land as is possible. I’m just sayin’, if we’re on the brink in the do-or-die moment of truth, Palin may represent that gutsy side of America that took the chance in the 1st place, back in 1776.
My 1st reply doesn’t appear to be going through, so at risk of repeating myself:
I totally agree with you, proreason. I always keep all my options open and see as much of the lay of the land as possible before committing to any decision. I’m just sayin’, at the do-or-die Moment of Truth, Palin may get my vote because I think she represents that gutsy side of America that took that 1st big chance, way back in the 1770′s.
To: Pro reason:
Your argument is not rational. You do not want to do that which is right; but that which satisfies your personal inclinations. There is no right way to do wrong. You want to win the election, no matter what. Wrong! You should want to attempt to install the right person; win or lose. Do you want to install Rahm Emmanuel? Holder? Biden? How about Barney Frank and Al Sharpton as a gay-marriage duo? Look at all the amoral votes that combo would pull in! How about a Pelosi-Reid matchup? Every pervert in the universe would support your choice. Your false notion that electability trumps fitness is destroyed by the above reductio ad absurdam, as well as the commonsense reasonably attributed to an average twelve yearold.
This person calls ME irrational?
Hello White Tiger:
HUH? Did you get an early start on New Years? Your post left me dazed and confused. Read your post again and see if it makes sense now. The choice in 2012 will be clear – Obama vs someone else. At this point, anyone to his right, who gets the Republican nomination is my clear choice. We must get to a choice of someone WHO CAN BEAT HIM. Don’t let a search for your own perfect choice get in the way of the objective – we must replace Obama.
Can Sarah beat Obama? At this point it looks like NO. If that changes and it looks like YES and she gets nominated, the MSM will pull out the stops and succeed in making her look clueless by playing the Currik and Gibson interviews over and over, and then make her look like an airhead by playing her Resignation speech over and over. That will be good enough for 5 to 15% on election day and we will get 4 more years of Obama.
Don’t loose sight of the objective.
Watching polls will be interesting. Watching her rallies will be magnificent. I hope there are a lot of football stadiums for rent when she begins to tour as a candidate, ’cause she’ll fill them. Any of them.
You’re correct, this is for all the marbles and if she can’t win (which I doubt seriously) then we lose. But, there is still a silver lining: the states. Some have already positioned themselves to nullify Obamacare.
Since a community organizer isn’t about fixing things but, rather, about starting fights, we have certainty we can deal with, should Obama get re-elected. Being able to shoot your own food and put it on the table could be a plus when the ‘don’t haves’ are led to charge the ‘haves’ (btw, the charge began at $250K or higher for those not keeping score).
Obama’s ‘divide America’ agenda will not hold up to Sarah’s view of a self-sustaining America where effort pays off, rather than the hammock-and-welfare check nonsense espoused by this foreign administration. I just don’t see how she loses in ’012. Not with the full support of those who detest Obama. No way, no how. (of course, without the ‘hold-your-nose’ conservatives who think she may stink as badly as Senator McCain, it gets dicey.
Going forward, I think SarahPAC should hire a press spokesman based in DC to knock down the barrage of negative press. It demeans her to have to contually respond personally to the idiots. If the press chooses not to play then she can refer critics to the spokesman responses and confine her comments to policy questions when she is on FOX, etc.
She might see her negatives come down. Otherwise we will have to wait and see what happens during the primaries. If after the early primaries she still appears unelectable Republicans can still chose someone else.
I agree tho that she is the best choice for America at this particular moment in time.
This is a very smart idea I hope she acts on.
All I know for sure is the more the MSM whines, bleats, slanders and back stabs Sarah Palin she’s the right one. I’ve watched the organ grinders grind in Pelosi and Reid and the monkey dance, not pretty, nothing has been more demeaning to a great Country. The man in the oval office is nothing but a two bit street corner hustler that hit the big time, a real down to earth person is badly needed. With all her supposed faults, Sarah Palin is that person.
And she should cool it with the Twitter nonsense.
David,
You were doing great until you wrote this:
“Chris Christie is a bold and ethical administrator, but is not a particularly persuasive communicator.”
You have got to be kidding about that latter part. Have you watched him at all, either in videos of town meetings or on TV news shows? The guy communicates very effectively and directly.
I’m a Palinista and prefer her as the nominee, but we don’t need to resort to silly and untrue ad hominems to make our case.
Well, all I can say is would prefer Palin of Mike “Mr. Nanny State” Huckabee anyday.
I have a huge problem with Sarah Palin’s political correctness when it comes to our ally, global jihad embattled, little Israel.
Q: How would you solve Israel/Palestinian conflict?
PALIN: A two-state solution is the solution. That needs to be done, and that will be a top agenda item under a McCain-Palin administration. Source: 2008 Vice Presidential debate against Joe Biden Oct 2, 200. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah_Palin_Foreign_Policy.htm
A sincere, true ally that seeks Israel’s survival will fight with all their might against surrendering land vital to Israel’s defense-the Biblical, militarily strategic high ground of Judea and Samaria – half of Israel, to Jew-hating, barbaric enemies. Facilitating the planned Second Holocaust.
Gov Palin only said that because it was McCain’s official position and she was part of the compaign. Of all the potential candidates, she is the most committed to Isreal. Just listen to her statements since the 2008 campaign.
If palin supported the formation of a palestinian state, which she really opposes; she is a liar. If Palin supported the formation of a palestinian state which she really supports, she is a jew- hating tool of the islamic jihad, and a betrayer of our sole ally in the mideast. Israel cannot tolerate a palestinian state with shared borders. When the raghead crazies attacked, she would have zero response time. And their repeatedly declared intention is to attack and destroy Israel. They have attacked Israel daily since 1948.
But Palin is only a parrot. She can’t think; she just squawks- whatever she hears from her masters. She doesn’t have a problem with dopesmoking, and that might explain her intellectual incapacity. In any event it will certainly erode her evangelical base.
Folks, at this point, “we don’t got nobody” worthy of our votes!
Let’s have some fun. Who will actually run the country – you know, be making the decisions, if Moose Barbie is elected leader of the free world. She knows very little of history, economics, international politics, law, balance of powers, foreign trade, appropriate and effective military strategy, the domestic economy, energy policy, monetary policy…just making a list of things you’d think a President should know about here……
This Super Celeb couldn’t name a recent Supreme Court case she disagreed with. (She finally mentioned Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973). How about Massachusetts v. EPA? She couldn’t name any publications that she reads. (On that one I assumed she would just be embarrassed to say. Is it possible that she simply doesn’t read anything?)
Who on God’s Green Earth would want Caribou Moose Barbie as President?
So, who’s “running” it now? The guy who said his uncle liberated a camp liberated by the red army? The guy who’s been to all 57 states? The guy who thinks the language of Austria is Austrian? The guy who identifies with the military because his relatives were in the military. . . of Indonesia? The guy who loved to surround himself with communists in college (and then did it again in his administration)? The guy who promised no more “signing statements” but then used them? The guy who promised no lobbyists in his administration, but then hired them? The guy who wouldn’t take private donations. . . until he did? The guy who said we needed a “private” security force as big and well funded as the military? The guy who fiddled for months before sending a fraction of the requested troops to the front (and then sent mostly non-combat troops)? The guy who bowed to the emperor of Japan and the king of Saudi Arabia? The guy who’s only economic plan is to nationalize industries and confiscate more money from the people who earned it? The guy who shut down drilling in the gulf after covering his big donor’s (BP’s) but with an information black out?
“Moose Barbie”? How about the Narcissistic little Fascist you put in office?
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That might be it, Palin’s one of us, in fact, reading about her life, she’s a modern-day pioneer, the kind of tough, self-reliant person that hewed a great nation out of a wilderness.
A person of the frontier, not of the political aristocracy.
Sarah has the first quality I’d ask in any political leader, an ardent patriotism and love of the USA; a genuine respect and concern for Americans…qualities not only lacking in our present Whitehouse occupant, but incomprehensable to him.
Is Sarah electable? Frankly I don’t know. Would I support her? You Betcha!
The funny thing to see is after Sarah wins 20 of 35 primaries about to clinch the nomination, desperate Obama will replace Biden for Hillary Clinton. And when she picks Marco Rubio as her VP, Obama will unleash his amnesty plan or appoint a Hispanic as Secretary of State.
Hillary as VP? hmm… talk about glass ceiling!
It had better be a bullet-proof glass ceiling.
Hildabeast will be the at the top of the Dem ticket in ’12. If His “O”lliness has any survival instinct at all he will step aside voluntarily, otherwise. . .
But hey, Michael might still be first lady none the less.
All it will take is to put a condition upon Presidential candidate debates: no teleprompters allowed. Obama can refuse to participate in which case he’ll seem like a fool, or he can participate in which case it will remove all doubt. The main reason Reagan originally won was because of Jimmy Carter’s ineptness as President. The pattern repeats.
And aren’t those Progressives so nice for giving the Republicans advice as to who to choose as a candidate? How selfless of them. Its like a pick pocket giving you advice as to which pocket you ought to keep your wallet.
Sarah should definitely run for the simple reason that everybody else running in the primaries against her would necessarily need to compete with her policy ideas. Either they’d have to one-up her to the right or expose themselves as squishy-cored closet liberals. Either way, whoever emerged after the primary would be a known quantity and the GOP would be fully defined as a true conservative force or as an untrustworthy, compromising bunch of RINOs.
The lapdog media damages every non-leftist it can. She has been damaged by them, I think it would be foolish and unwise of me to say otherwise. The governance of this land of ours is too important an issue to turn it into a a high school popularity contest…with cliques and factions spreading rumors and innuendos and cementing puerile notions of unworthiness upon those who “won’t take a stand” with me. I want to try to avoid that, it makes my arguments weaker when I do so.
Frankly, attacking folks who generally tend to agree with me because they don’t ALWAYS agree with me, is asinine and counterproductive. I can disagree with friends, but I don’t have to be a jerk about it. That’s what leftists do, I truly don’t wish to emulate them.
What does the country need? I think Mitch Daniels brings much to the table right now for what I see as the most pressing needs. (Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio and Bobbie Jindal do as well,…but I think they are not “placed” properly to lead from the top, as valuable as they are in huge supporting roles currently)
We are at a fiscal Armageddon crossroads. We need someone who can match cerebral leftist BS with an analytical scalpel…and shred it, expose it and make it look as ridiculous as it truly is.
Sarah Palin is a wonderful galvanizing force for the salt of the earth Everyman, John Q. Public, Joe Sixpack, the best the country has to offer…on either side of the fence. That makes her powerful…of great utility. I just don’t think she is “placed”, (exactly the same rationale I use for others I truly value above), to lead from the top position.
This time, we need a masterful analytical mind, McCain got blistered in that arena. (if we were running against Joe Biden this would be entirely different)
That’s what I think we need and why I think we need it…who best fills that role (Pawlenty, Daniels, Thune, someone else, whomever), is not a slam on Sarah, her background, skills, experience or value to the Party.
Losing in 2012 could be a disaster of Biblical proportions. We have to get this one right. And the willingness to do this in a team mental framework, everyone using their highest and best use skills, is imperative…even if that means that they have to be “role players”, instead of getting “star billing”.
Exposing the fraud of stealth socialism and the damage it is doing is job one.
Palin is a phenomenon that happens once in a century. This article correctly describes Palin’s ability to overpower her opponents with grace and common sense.
“in the eyes of the political/cultural aristocracy, [Palin] is the embodiment of its worst nightmare: the revolt of the masses against their masters.”
And this is exactly what terrifies the IV league crowd on left and the right. When someone from proletariat class challenges their power base
they act in unison regardless their political believes, That’s why the Krauthammes of the world in both side of the political spectrum are trying to destroy Palin before she can intellectually prove herself.
I hope to see the Messiah debating Mama Grizzly without a telepromter.
And that will be event of the century.
The fact that the MSM, professional Left, and academia hate her with frothing passion is proof that she’s the one who can beat Comrade 0.
My only worry about Sara running is the RINOs & Old Guard GOP Elites sabotaging her campaign and then staying home on election day.
It is my observation that, for President, the best candidate wins. It is a personality contest. The most likable person wins. I don’t see how she could lose and I don’t think we have any other candidate who can beat 0. He is a wonderful performance artist.
This is a brilliant observation, Old Guy. It seems to work all the way back to 1976, or maybe even back to Nixon.
Perhaps as television has become more and more ingrained in the culture, the likability factor has become more and more important.
And you are correct that little lenin has successfully tricked the country into thinking that a person even more sinister than Nixon is “likable”. It seems to be a major part of the con job.
Now, as far as the candidates other than Sarah go, I’m not sure I agree with your assessment completely. Rubio is certainly likable (although not a front-runner). Other likeable people include Romney, Pawlenty and Pence. Other people, of course, will have different opinions. And none of the candidates are as cringe-worthy as most leading light Dems (Schumer, Reid, the Witch, Franks, Waxman (oh gawd), the list is endless)
You also got me thinking about Palin’s recent strategy. If she agrees with you that likability is key, then her Alaska TV show is a brilliant move; even better than Fox, which is mainly watched by older people and political junkies. Note that the pundits have uniformly panned it. Perhaps she is the one actually playing chess instead of tic tac toe.
I believe that in the primary, which is also a likability contest, Sarah Palin is going to cream all of the above. Then the MSM will wring its hands and moan about the poor GOP, taken over by crazies who are insuring its defeat and final destruction. The upside of this is, we’ll get to see every Goldwater clip they have.
In October of 2012, I expect to see a TIME magazine cover with a gravestone on it marked…
GOP
1854 – 2012
R.I.P.
Of course, this will really be an indicator that the polls show she is winning and the Progressives have hit the panic button.
As for the TV show, it is turning her into new Teddy Roosevelt. That beats Greek columns every time.
She is either the smartest politician we have or the luckiest.
“If that’s the case, a third party could really clean up in a few years.”
I would agree with this assertion if I felt sure we had the few years to wait. 2012 looks like do or die time to me, and Palin has the most guts. We have been a runaway train careening down the mountainside towards socialism my entire life. With the election of Soros DBA Obama, our momentum has astronomically increased. We may only have one chance at this. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
“Chris Christie is a bold and ethical administrator, but is not a particularly persuasive communicator” – are you kidding? His eviscerations of teachers and their unions are priceless examples of his plain-spokenness. Or is that the problem – not enough polysyllabic words to sustain the pseudo-intellectuals who see themselves as above “the rabble?”
Purely my opinion of course. Sarah Palin is a nice person, but she’s NOT presidential ‘material’ in the slightest. If she were elected we’d have 4 years of arguing about her qualifications, she’d be abandoned over and over by her “base”, and not a single foreign power would take her seriously.
In her show she spelled it out clearly when she said she’d much rather be out there in the wilderness than stuck in some political office. Guess that’s why she quit her Gov. term, another reason I won’t support her. Her public explanation for leaving her post was lame, especially since it could have been used to actually bash those attacking her if treated right.
Sarah is a nice lady, but she’s not politically savvy enough to be president, let alone senator. She simply wouldn’t take the nation forward, and after obambo, we need to move forward ten times faster, removing all he’s done and all the liberal congress did before him.
With what we’ve had presented as “Presidential material” for so many years now, I consider that a compliment. Just what is Presidential material? From what I’ve seen for years, Palin is a breath of fresh Polar air clearing the stench out of our nostrils and hopefully the fuzz out of our brains.
As Cybergeezer said in comment #30 above, “If Sarah ISN’T ELECTABLE, then the Democrat/Socialist Media ISN’T DEFEATABLE.”
Let’s defeat the socialist media and the dems who say we’re dumb if we disagree with them.
I think enough of Palin to think that she quit being governor so she could be a loose cannon with no agenda but to speak her mind. I think she would run for Prez sometime in the future, but I think her initial goal is a much greater one: she realized she fired up the sleeping long-suffering conservatives in this country and decided to make it her mission to speak for us, shine a strong clear light on what the left is up to. I truly believe if she thought someone else acceptable was more electable, she’d endorse them. If the time comes and the pickings are lean, I think she could be talked into it. Otherwise, I suspect she’d be content to wait until a future election, honing her skills, building her base, extending her national and international knowledge.
So now we have 4 years trying to figure out if Obama is actually qualified to serve in the WH,,, I haven’t seen a birth certificate yet, nor have I seen his transcripts at Columbia or Harvard,,, he is a total fraud,,, IMHO.
You have not been paying attention to reality.
Sarah is the only GOP prospect for POTUS that will move fast and furious to cut the federal government back.
You obviously have no idea what she did as Governor of Alaska in only 2.5 years and 3 legislative sessions.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35447297/Governor-Palin-s-Accomplishments
There’s a difference between being more qualified than Obama and being the most qualified. I like Sarah and generally agree with her positions, but she hasn’t impressed me with her political acumen, or her ability to handle criticism.
I think that there are a number of people who are more qualified to be President, including Pawlenty, Daniels, Romney and Haley Barbour. The real question is who is both qualified and electable. Right now, I don’t know who will emerge. Huckabee is more qualified than Palin by reason of his experience as governor, but I detest him. He’s a Pharisee. Romney’s problem is that he comes from Massachusetts and is LDS. He’s been tarred as a closet liberal, which I don’t view as fair. More likely he’s a conservative who’s had to pose as more liberal than he really is. The one I like most is Pawlenty, but that may just be because I don’t know enough about him.
Palin has stong, passionate supporters but I doubt if that will overcome the blast furnace of hatred that will surely come against her from the news media and the Democrats. Also her popularity reminds me a lot of the way Oprah’s fans adore her. It’s more celebrity than real political support.
Here is the real question. With 300+ million people, why are only a handful considered “contenders” for the Presidency? What is wrong with this picture?
AS i write on every blog please realize
Marco Rubio
Bobby Jindal
cannot ‘ever’ run for President or vice President
they are NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZENS
as per the constitution == Artical II Section I clause V
Both thier parents where born outside the United States
thus they are only naturalized American citizens and not elibible/
A 14th amendment issue only
The amendment has nothing to do with being eligible to be President contrary to what many americans believe.
just Because Obama chose to defy the constitution and the country let him get away with it, do not believe for a moment that a Republican will be allowed the same privilege by the MSM.
but they were born to american parents …it would require a supreme court hearing to settle the question. ….at least that is my take on it.
the same is not the case for obama who’s claimed father was Kenyan.
still amazed that the MSM gave him such a pass. there is so much material there.
You forgot ‘Ahhnold’. What could better complement the D.C. crowd than a governor from a bankrupt state? And with MORE bankrupt ideas!
If we could put Obama’s brother, from Kenya, in the White House, he’d make a more conscientious appointment.
Living in poverty burns what ‘survival’ means in your psyche.
You’re wrong on Rubio; Do your research.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” 14th Amendment, section 1.
Rubio was born in Miami. He’s a natural born citizen.
Jindal was born in New Orleans. He’s a natural born citizen.
I don’t mind dopes being allowed on this site, but it pisses me off when they are dopes with a lunatic agenda. Particularly if they spell even worse than I do.
“they are NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZENS”
Both are natural born citizens, born right here in the good old USA. At least that’s what their biographies say.
When McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, I believe he saved himself from a landslide loss. I supported Mike Huckabee in 2008–still do–and I remember thinking “Wow–Governor Palin and Huckabee are very much on the same page; all she lacks is his experience. She is kind of ‘Huckabee Lite’”.
I think her having stepped down before completing her first term as Governor is pretty much a disqualifier for the 2012 presidency, but there is no doubt she is going to continue to be a very important conservative leader. I just hope she and Huckabee and others of like mind join forces. And I do not include pro-life/pro-choice wealthy party insider Romney.
Huckabee is a statist. The TPM will not support him.
The only thing they have in common is that they are both Christians and were governors.
Other than that, nothing.
Sarah is the only GOP possibility for 2012 that has a chance at creating a …crusade.
It will take a MOVEMENT to defeat Obama with unprecedented turnout by Indies, GOP and conservative Dems to really take it to Obama.
I am a Sarah Palin fan. I do believe if the President has the best interests of the USA at heart all else is possible and will follow. Sarah is that person, honest and real, a patriot to the core. Oblahblah is a Marxist who cares not one whit for our freedoms. Keep ‘em honest Sarah!!
Well said Ken.
patroness,
Your comments are so sweet. That is cool! BTW- August 29, the day that John McCain introduced Sarah Palin, happens to be her and Todd’s anniversary, and also our wedding anniversary!
Happy anniversary to all of us! WOW!
Nothin’ better than being married to the love of your life.
Thanks for your kind words and may 2011 be better for all of us;)
1~1~11
There are so many opinions here – many of them quite detailed and of great worth that I am afraid I cannot adequately make reference to those I deem best. I would, however, encourage all of you to read this piece:
Governor Palin’s Top 10 Policy and Political Statements of 2010 – posted here:
http://conservatives4palin.com/2010/12/governor-palins-top-10-policy-and-political-statements-of-2010.html
To the best of my knowledge, no other person has spoken so clearly on all of this points (or even spoken of them) as Gov Palin…..yep, you guessed it – I agree with her on every single one.
She clearly has the intelligence and (based on my reading of her accomplishments as Gov of Alaska) the ability and experience. Yet, it is her guts, love of the USA and our great founding fathers and Constitution and Declaration of Independence, willingness to sacrifice for all of us; knowing how to lead with a positive attitude and smile; even as she doesn’t let the lsm (lame stream media) or others get away with their BS for long.
I, too, agree we are short on time to turn our beloved nation around – for the betterment of all its citizens (whether they realize it or not). I pray everyday for my country and for the chance to be one more grunt in Sarah’s army these next 2 years til elections in 2012….and then beyond as we help her achieve what is presently impossible.
Reb
thanks for posting, I am passing it on. This should quell any doubts about the capabilities of Sarah Palin to be President. What she said about foreign policy blew me away. I know everyone has their favorites but Sarah Palin is the only person who openly and unabashedly criticized Obama and his administration. She is the only one who stood behind tea party candidates and traveled the country helping the GOP win the House. She’s the one!
In one of Sherlock Holmes’ most famous cases, a key clue was the failure of a watchdog to bark at a nighttime intruder.
Palin’s latest book was released two weeks after Bush’s. I suspect that’s not a coincidence.
Had Palin’s book eclipsed Bush’s, we’d never hear the end of it from the Palinistas.
Their silence is deafening.
You must have thought for a month to come up with that one.
Ad hominem response. Perhaps I hit a nerve.
Whatever one might think about Palin’s qualifications to govern, her talent for self-promotion is beyond question. I find it entirely plausible that the timing of her book wrt Bush’s was deliberate.
If Barry is an example of the end product of an elite Ivy League education I’m glad that my own children opted for the local state university. Speaking of Universities I wonder why Barry continues to hide his college transcripts? You would think that someone touted as the smartest man in the universe would be proud to have his college scores known by one and all. I would love to see Sarah Palin as President. The endless pandering and kowtowing to our enemies, Russia, Islamic terrorists, etc, would quickly come to an end and even the Chinese would recognize that they can no longer push America around like they do now with our current girly commander-in-chief. But I don’t think Governor Palin will run. As mentioned, the spread of Palin Derangement Syndrome among the leftists would make it dangerous, possibly even deadly, for her to even consider running. I think hatred for Palin is even stronger then the hatred for Bush. Palin and her family would be in danger every single day.
You people who say you will vote for her don’t get it.
We all will have to do the following:
1) Vote for her.
2) Volunteer to be a precinct executive or assist another precinct executive to work almost full-time the last three month prior to the election.
3) Save your money so you can donate the maximum to her campaign for both primary and general election.
4) Persuade others to do 1) thru 3).
5) Temporarily move to a battleground state to tip it in our favor as you assist the ground game there. Example: If you live in north Kentucky, consider contacting a relative in Ohio to live with them while you work full-time.
You must make SACRIFICE. Remember that the ground game of the Left/Dems is people who are PAID to do it. We for the most part do not have that luxury.
Yes, they SHOULD, but they probably won’t. History shows that people rarely choose to get involved without GREAT impetus, and they don’t STAY involved for long. The level of passion you show is not shared by many. It’s like a great or good grades; everybody wants them, few are willing to do the work. Hope I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Perhaps if people had a candidate worthy of the sacrifice, they would be willing to do it. I know I will be.
Nothing wrong with shooting ones dinner.
I stand with Sarah Palin!
“Others like Marco Rubio and Allen West, both highly impressive figures, are too young or new to the field to be presidentially assessed.”
But Palin wasn’t?
Face it, she would have done better by refusing the 2008 VP slot, staying in Alaska, winning re-election and so forth. She would have been a much more formidable candidate in 2012 or 2016. Instead she’s become just another example of the celebrity-as-candidate in this Oprah-fied country.
That is not to say I won’t vote for her, if she’s the nominee. These days, the GOP could nominate a dead cat to run against O and they’d get my vote.
You are so right Sapwolf. I feel enormous pride that I did #1-4 for the Nov. 2010 elections and plan to do even more for the 2012. #5 isn’t feasible for me, but for those who can do it–go for it.
I am in Texas and from what I hear, Texas’s True the Vote organization is a good example for all states to follow if they don’t already have their own. Our fearless (mama grizzly) leader is already accepting requests to help other states set their own groups up.
Would McCain and Palin have pushed a Stimulus Bill that expanded the federal government and rewarded clients of the state like the GM unions instead of improving the private sector — NO! Would McCain and Palin pushed a Health Care Takeover Bill with 157++ new government agencies, more regulations, more costs, less care and protection for drug companies and lawsuits instead of lowering the cost of health care–NO! Would McCain and Palin pushed a Financial Reform that protects the largest banks and Wall Street investment firms and totally forgets about the total inept failure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac also known as Ground Zero in the collapse instead of real regulations on derivatives and huge bonuses–AGAIN NO!
If you mean QUALIFIED compared to what we have—ABSOLUTELY! She is inexperienced compared to what? You or me? Then you must suffer from low self esteem because I know I could do a better job than what we have. But the candidates and their media made jokes about how she can see Russia from her house–a nice Saturday Night Line skit but a total lie to what she really said. She is NOT a political hack that panders to the ultra wealthy and the special interests. That said she should not run because the media, like newspaper journalists and Charlie Gibson with his stupid Bush Doctrine lie, will just destroy her creditability at every turn. Just like in the movie Josey Wales, she can do her best on a horse. By that I mean she needs to help honest citizens get elected and return to “serving” the people.
Piper’s mom will be 1st in Iowa, 2nd in NH and 1st in South Carolina.
Armies of right to life women will mobilize and give Piper’s mom the nomination.
Huckabee is the only one who can stop her or retard her numbers. Watch for Huckabee to do something nasty. Something quick and dirty, like his Mormon comment last time.
Yes. Absolutely with out a doubt Mrs.Palin is electable. Not only because she is, because there is an entirely new dynamic. It flys below the radar, there are no electorate benchmarks to gauge it against. The talking heads and pundits just don’t get it. They probably won’t either, if they do it goes against everything they live for. It is not only Mrs. Palin that is feared, it is we the people. That is why Sarah is electable.
Electability is nonsense, MSM propaganda. Obama was unelectable. It took the perfect storm for it to happen. The same perfect storm is here for the GOP. That’s what the Tea Party is, the sign of a perfect storm.
Now for the truth. No one can beat Palin. No one.
Elections are won through money, advertising, campaign appearances, and the ground game. Her policies are not the problem, because the opposition will never focus on them. It will all be ad hominem.
No one does fund-raising like Palin. No one else has the organization for support already in place (SarahPAC), except Obama. It will be the appearances, and Obama just no longer packs them in. The economy will not be in recovery, and folks will be fed up… and they are paying attention.
The other GOP candidates have no chance against her. None. They lack the massive organization. Only Obama rivals her, and he will be toast by then. He only has the advantage of the MSM, which is failing day by day.
It is already over, if she runs, which she really already is. She IS the next President. It cannot be otherwise.
Interesting. You have your own form of magical thinking. Will it and it will be true.
Electability is the most important factor of all. Your complaint is probably with the msm’s manipulation of the concept. But they manipulate everything, so that’s the status quo. Marc Malone will influence a handful of voters, if he’s lucky. Meanwhile, the msm will influence millions more people than any pundit or commentor on PJM.
To ignore the fact that Palin has a tough hill to climb because of the two year concerted campaign to discredit her is a noble but foolish mistake.
But the real problem will be if people become so invested in one candidate that they don’t participate if their favorite doesn’t make it. I hope all conservatives will be wise enough to say loudly first that all the candidates are vastly superior to Obama. If we do that, enthusiasm will remain high when all but one eventually fall by the wayside.
Proreason said: “But the real problem will be if people become so invested in one candidate that they don’t participate if their favorite doesn’t make it.”
The real problem here is that none of the likely GOP nominees besides Sarah inspires that kind of passion. Could you really see a Romney supporter staying home because Pawlenty won? Maybe they would if Palin won, but that’s only because she inspires the same kind of frothing-at-the-mouth hatred among moderate “Republicans” as she does among Democrats.
As for me, I would like to see Palin run and win. On the other hand, I have serious problems with only two potential alternate nominees. I can’t see myself pulling a lever for Romney or Huckabee. That’s not to say I’d stay home, because I wouldn’t – I’d vote Libertarian.
proreason, the argument you make is the very one adhered to by the moderates. They submit to the power of the MSM. They dance to its tune. As long as they do, it does not matter which side gets elected, because the MSM still calls the tune, and they ARE the Left.
The whole thing is false, anyway. They do not have that power. They do not. They are given it when we embrace their fallacies, thereby giving them credence. That’s what allows them to shape things. Look at Christie of NJ, everything they throw at him, he does not dodge, but rather catches and embraces. He is enormously popular because of it. He does not fear the liberal accusations, but embraces them, thus rendering the charges impotent.
We have nothing to fear, but the fear of the MSM itself.
The MSM is dying. I refuse to resuscitate them by giving them credence. I shall not give them power again. To do so is to lose. The winner of the next election IS Palin, because she does not kowtow to the media, but rather, attacks it and destroys its power. No one else does.
Happy New Year.
So; Sarah Palin isn’t ‘electable’; U.S. economy isn’t ‘sustainable’; U.S. borders aren’t ‘protectable’; Obama’s czars aren’t ‘accountable’; U.S. voters are ‘gullible’; State’s Rights are ‘reversible’; Congress is ‘contemptible’); The U.S. Constitution isn’t ‘enforceable’; The U.S. media is ‘disreputable’.
Is it because ‘We The People’ are not ‘responsible’?
…indeed.
regards ..happy new year.
“Ivy League academics, mainstream journalists, public intellectuals, union impresarios and henchmen, and the entitlement-addicted segment of the public. They are terrified of her.” I am a university math professor and am terrified of Ivy League academics, mainstream journalists, public intellectuals, etc, because they lack rational thought. We must be rational in order to survive as a human race. There are two aspects of rational thought: One is theoretical: Clear statement of principles and logical conclusions. Second: empirical verification. See the new book, Rational Thinking, Government Policies, Science, and Living. Gov. Palin talks like a fully rational person. The academics and pundits I know violate rational thought: They do not clearly state their principles and logic, and they ignore evidence to the contrary. I do not care if she is “electable”. She is rational, and we Americans must learn how to discuss complex ideas one step at a time, and not give one-liners instead. This is what education is all about.
Palin probably is unelectable…right NOW. But the 2012 campaign will not take place against today’s political backdrop. It is foolish to say Palin can’t win. It is also foolish to say Obama can or can’t win re-election.
Between now and 2012, we have a Republican House. How the political battles play out between it and the White House play out over the next two years will have a LOT to do with who can or can’t win in 2012. If Obama and his sycophants in the media can successfully demonize “stingy” and “hard-hearted” conservatives, Obama’s path to re-election may be easier than we think, especially if the economy improves. On the other hand, if Obama behaves like the petulant tin-pot dictator many of us know he is, it may be considerably more difficult. And this, or course, assumes that no major disasters occur in the meantime that might make voters rally around Obama and the flag.
For the sake of argument, let’s say Palin IS the nominee. Nominating conventions have a way of re-introducing a candidate to the electorate. They are often game-changers. McCain’s certainly was (largely due to Palin). It was only the ineptitude of his subsequent campaign that kept him away from the White House DESPITE Obama’s novelty and PR smokescreen.
I like Palin. She is charismatic and principled. I would vote for her. But I also want to hear from potential candidates like Mitch Daniels, Pawlenty, and whoever else decides to run. I want the best, most fiscal conservative candidate I can get – someone who will really cut spending, maybe reform the tax code, and start moving us back toward a constitutional, limited government. The only potential nominees who really turn me off are Romeny and Huckabee. If either wins the nomination, I’m voting my conscience by going third party. I’m fed up with wearin ga clothespin on my nose when I enter the voting booth.
Well said David.
Gravitas? I wouldn’t hire Barry to run a bottle return for God’s sake. First of all I don’t think he’d pass the I-9 form qualifications. This time period will be studied by future generations in amazement at the mass stupidity we are engaged in, something like the Tulip bubble or the Salem witch trials. A person can be smart. People are stupid.
Establishment Republicans are their own worst enemy. While Obama’s radicals are gearing up for 2012 they are citing Huckabee and Romney as contenders and the lamestream media is pushing them also.the Left will destroy these two.
For two years Palin has withstood every insult and attack ever leveled at a public figure-and the kicker is she’s wildly successful and financially set. The Left hate her for that – a woman, a capitalist and a fighter that won’t sit down and shut up-I think she’s the perfect person to go up against Putin, Mahmoud A, and Kim Jong. I’d vote for her just to sit back and watch her go at them! Refudiate that Vladimir.
We’ve had ‘brilliant’ and all of his Marxist czars-now give us a real American who loves her country – who loves freedom-who loves our rule of law – who loves the economic principles that have made this country the envy of the world-
If Romney or Huckabee or Pence or any other ‘white male’ go up against Obama we will have another 4 years of the communist.
Palin will have to clear some hurdles but with God’s help she can win over enough voters – it’ll be a miracle but this country is founded on faith so we are due for one.
Well said. Sarah will be President if that is where God wants her.
“it’ll be a miracle but this country is founded on faith so we are due for one.”
This country is founded on Due Process and Property Rights. THAT’S why it works, not religion.
based on the belief that Natural Law exists because God exists.. America, with the Natural Right to Due Process and the Natural Right to keep what you work for (Property Rights) are derived from the Declaration that those rights are inherent in Created people..
It took a universe to make us.. respect that, and you will see all humans as equals..
Your moral character and whether or not people trust you is why America works.. or not..
Allen West..
The ‘Cognitive Dissonance’ debates await…
Mitt Romney’s major qualification for President is that he looks like a President. Sorry, that’s not good enough.
Mike Huckabee’s main disqualification for the Presidency is that no one will take him seriously, because he looks like Fred Flintstone. (The mainstream press has yet to report on this phenomenon, no doubt out of fear that he will unleash Dino and Bamm-Bamm on them.)
Sarah Palin has an uphill battle, to be sure. However, as others have pointed out, she is all but immune from October surprises. There is nothing we don’t know about her life, thanks to all the journalists turned Wasilla dumpster-divers (and who couldn’t be bothered to find out anything at all about Barack Obama). Heck, there are hardly any new lies left to tell about her. (Go ahead, try to accuse her of something she hasn’t already been accused of. It’s not easy.)
Gov. Palin has character, she is grounded (i.e. she is not a Clintonian weathervane), and she has made all the right enemies. If she’s on the ballot in 2012, I can’t imagine myself voting for anyone else.
respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline
Isn’t it time we voted for a candidate who is honest, who is a good person, who believes what we believe? Are you going to listen yet again to the media who tell you the person is unelectable? Is the “electable” person the person you really want to be President? Who do you want? If you could have the person you WANT, who would you vote for? That is the question you should be asking yourselves.
As an Alaskan for many years, all I can say is that you guys here at Pajamas Media must be watching one heck of alot of Fox News. Obviously you didn’t do any research past that channel.
Education!
I’m tired of education being a “qualifications”.
We currently have a president who is what I call “intellectually ignorant”, he has all the right diplomas, yet he failed to get
an education while he was racking up the sheepskins! Truly an empty suit.
Everything points to it!
Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President. How can I trust that she can take the stress, such as serving as Commander in Chief during a time of war, when she can’t even handle an onslaught of allegations of ethical violations and so quit being state governor? I’m not going to elect a quitter as President.
And then she seems to think that hosting a TV show puts her a step closer to the Presidency than being a state governor! Is this the sort of career progression we want to endorse as a citizenry? Sounds like the decay of republican Rome to me.
Bobby Jindal all the way.
I chop down trees and turn them into log homes and
I think you need to get used to hearing
the phrase “Madam President”
This is the first time in ages that we have had a candidate like Palin. Someone we didn’t have to “settle” for because they were better than nothing. People are crazy if they don’t see the positives. Ignore the pundits, armchair political operatives like Rove and Krauthammer (both RINO’s btw) and think out of the box.
Do you want to be the ones to say how this country is run or do you want to keep letting the elites do it? If you want to take back the independence for the people, Palin is an excellent chance to do that. She has never been in any of this for herself. The books, the show, traveling across the country to support real conservative candidates-it’s all about the independence of the people, by the people, for the people.
245 comments? Palin has become such a lightening rod, she could get struck with a bolt at the bottom of a Chinese mine shaft.
I love the way she gives the Democrat/Socialist media the palsy. Superb entertainment.
Sarah Palin was the chairman of Alaska’s Oil and Gas Commission. She resigned she could not effect change. She then went on to run for and win the governorship. Do you see a pattern emerging? I do. Sarah/West 2012!!
“Do you see a pattern emerging?”
She keeps quitting?
Sarah’s biggest problem is Tina Fey looks to much like her.
Palin is the real deal; unfortunately, she won’t be able to beat Sotoro in 2012 because he and his followers are the world’s best liars and propagandists. The following are better and more winnable candidates: Thune, Jindal, Ryan, Bachmann, Romney, A. West and H. Cain (and, any combination of these accomplished, intelligent and attractive GOP members can easily shellack Obama/Biden by a landslide).
For those of you who are familiar with English gematria, the system of assigning numbers to letters, if you enter Sarah L. Palin, which is her full name with the middle initial, you will get the numeric value of 666. For those who don’t understand, Google gematria. I have included two separate links to two separate gematria calculators below for you to see it first hand for yourself. See it and heed its meaning. I had always foreseen this since the 2008 election campaign. Now I proved it for everyone to see.
http://prophecy.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/count.html
http://real-world-news.org/numerics/english-gematria.html
An absurd opinion. Sarah Palin is the most uninformed individual to be spoken of as Presidential material in the history of the RepubliC. This cannot be refudiated.
David – There are at least two people more unininformed than Sarah Palin: 1) Your Messiah, Barack Obama; and 2) Yourself. You are a profound nitwit and should troll elsewhere.
I can’t believe this is even being discussed. The woman is an idiot, pure and simple, and I’ve been to her rallies with the tea party. She is uninformed, uneducated, and a threat to world peace on the basis of her ignorance.
http://www.hsus2.org/