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		<title>By: роман</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/russia-plays-nuclear-war-games-with-poland/#comment-759994</link>
		<dc:creator>роман</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>пидоры вы все</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>пидоры вы все</p>
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		<title>By: victoria</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/russia-plays-nuclear-war-games-with-poland/#comment-757169</link>
		<dc:creator>victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poland was already vindicated for Russia&#039;s political murder of Polish President and the rest of Polish elite.  GO AND VISIT MOSCOW - TRULY CENTRAL ASIAN CITY - 8 OUT OF 10 ARE KYGYZ, UZBEKS, TADJIKS - RUSSIA IS DOOMED.  LOOK AT THEIR ARMY, A LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WHOLE WORD.  SOME OF THOSE DRUNK RUSSIANS AND HIGH ON AFGHAN HEROIN STILL THINK TATH &#039;KURSK&#039; IS ON SPECIAL MISSION UNDERWATER.....  BEFORE RUSSIA&#039;S DISINTEGRATION RUSSIANS WILL DO A LOT OF DAMAMGES TO THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.  POOR, HUNGRY RUSSIANS SHOULD LEARN MANDARIN CHINESE ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poland was already vindicated for Russia&#8217;s political murder of Polish President and the rest of Polish elite.  GO AND VISIT MOSCOW &#8211; TRULY CENTRAL ASIAN CITY &#8211; 8 OUT OF 10 ARE KYGYZ, UZBEKS, TADJIKS &#8211; RUSSIA IS DOOMED.  LOOK AT THEIR ARMY, A LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WHOLE WORD.  SOME OF THOSE DRUNK RUSSIANS AND HIGH ON AFGHAN HEROIN STILL THINK TATH &#8216;KURSK&#8217; IS ON SPECIAL MISSION UNDERWATER&#8230;..  BEFORE RUSSIA&#8217;S DISINTEGRATION RUSSIANS WILL DO A LOT OF DAMAMGES TO THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES.  POOR, HUNGRY RUSSIANS SHOULD LEARN MANDARIN CHINESE ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/russia-plays-nuclear-war-games-with-poland/#comment-491383</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidN
Russians: &quot;Far-away people of whom we know nothing
A deal letting China have Russia: &quot;Peace in our time.&quot;

Doesn&#039;t everyone see the logic of this?
DAvidN, Isn&#039;t Russia dying?  If a half of the population is HIV positive there is a chance that there won&#039;t be enough people in Russia in the near future to invade Poland. So DavidN, let&#039;s look at that &#039;powerful imperial&#039; Russia again, indeed the biggest country in the world [with 65% of useless permafrost], 80% of Russia&#039;s population live in pure 18 century - try to travel, if you find a road, that is, and you will see real Russians  living in Siberia without water,for God&#039;s sake those poor Russians are trying to lease the city of Vladivostok to Chinese for 75 years - how more humiliating can it get?  I actually think that Mr. Putin is God sent for the West - he is trying to restore the 18th century Russian &#039;empire&#039; - by brutal force, while China is relentlesly modernizing its economy and expanding politically and economically.  Truly priceless to see Russia desintegrating. View from Poland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidN<br />
Russians: &#8220;Far-away people of whom we know nothing<br />
A deal letting China have Russia: &#8220;Peace in our time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t everyone see the logic of this?<br />
DAvidN, Isn&#8217;t Russia dying?  If a half of the population is HIV positive there is a chance that there won&#8217;t be enough people in Russia in the near future to invade Poland. So DavidN, let&#8217;s look at that &#8216;powerful imperial&#8217; Russia again, indeed the biggest country in the world [with 65% of useless permafrost], 80% of Russia&#8217;s population live in pure 18 century &#8211; try to travel, if you find a road, that is, and you will see real Russians  living in Siberia without water,for God&#8217;s sake those poor Russians are trying to lease the city of Vladivostok to Chinese for 75 years &#8211; how more humiliating can it get?  I actually think that Mr. Putin is God sent for the West &#8211; he is trying to restore the 18th century Russian &#8216;empire&#8217; &#8211; by brutal force, while China is relentlesly modernizing its economy and expanding politically and economically.  Truly priceless to see Russia desintegrating. View from Poland</p>
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		<title>By: DavidN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poles: &quot;Far-away people of whom we know nothing.&quot;
A deal letting Putin have Poland: &quot;Peace in our time.&quot;

Doesn&#039;t everyone see the logic of this? After all, we can&#039;t go to war over Poland, especially not while trying to reform health care, do cap and trade, and scale down the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Poles simply chose the wrong neighbors, and now they&#039;ll have to live with the consequences. If you&#039;re realistic about it, the Russians are much bigger and powerful, and they can conquer Poland whenever they like. Why fight it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poles: &#8220;Far-away people of whom we know nothing.&#8221;<br />
A deal letting Putin have Poland: &#8220;Peace in our time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t everyone see the logic of this? After all, we can&#8217;t go to war over Poland, especially not while trying to reform health care, do cap and trade, and scale down the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Poles simply chose the wrong neighbors, and now they&#8217;ll have to live with the consequences. If you&#8217;re realistic about it, the Russians are much bigger and powerful, and they can conquer Poland whenever they like. Why fight it?</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/russia-plays-nuclear-war-games-with-poland/#comment-441560</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I am saying narciso is that Yelena Bonner, Vladimir Bukovsky, Gary Kasparov, Boris Nemtsov, and those who back them, they have to be the one&#039;s calling the shots from the Kremlin.  Otherwise, the borders of Russia have to be redrawn so that natural resources cannot be used as a weapon against those who do not do the Kremlin&#039;s bidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I am saying narciso is that Yelena Bonner, Vladimir Bukovsky, Gary Kasparov, Boris Nemtsov, and those who back them, they have to be the one&#8217;s calling the shots from the Kremlin.  Otherwise, the borders of Russia have to be redrawn so that natural resources cannot be used as a weapon against those who do not do the Kremlin&#8217;s bidding.</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
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		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving in to the successor to Czar Nicholas 1, seems a strange way to vindicate theDecembrists,
they did lose by the way. Calling Woolsey who has been a leading advocate against global jihad, American silovik, seems to be something
the SVR would say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving in to the successor to Czar Nicholas 1, seems a strange way to vindicate theDecembrists,<br />
they did lose by the way. Calling Woolsey who has been a leading advocate against global jihad, American silovik, seems to be something<br />
the SVR would say.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/russia-plays-nuclear-war-games-with-poland/#comment-440683</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who does not discount the damage done by &quot;Moscow is the third Rome, and there will not be a 4th&quot;, plus the inhumanity dished out to Ukraine, especially during the holodomor, I want the descendants of the Decembrists to have the upper hand.

Now, I am not defending hollus bollus the record of Pilsudski, but at least
he knew full well what Lenin, Iron Feliks, Trotsky and the rest of the early
deformed souls who accepted the hammer &amp; sickle as am emblem, he knew full well what they were capable of.

The choice is this: Putyin, Medvedyev, and those in the successor to the KGB
who had dealings with Zawahiri before Putin became Prime Minister the first
time, they and the entire apparatus have to be removed from their positions
of influence.  There are two options: One is to redraw the borders of Russia
so that the Kremlin can no longer use natural resources under its control as
a weapon.  The other is to ultimately turn power over to Solidarity.  

As for Saakashvili, does he have the blood of journalists on his hands?  Plus, why did he make Yushchenko an ally, instead of an enemy.  For Viktor
had a massive dose of dioxin that was off the charts, and if not for the professionalism of those who treated him, he would not have survived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who does not discount the damage done by &#8220;Moscow is the third Rome, and there will not be a 4th&#8221;, plus the inhumanity dished out to Ukraine, especially during the holodomor, I want the descendants of the Decembrists to have the upper hand.</p>
<p>Now, I am not defending hollus bollus the record of Pilsudski, but at least<br />
he knew full well what Lenin, Iron Feliks, Trotsky and the rest of the early<br />
deformed souls who accepted the hammer &amp; sickle as am emblem, he knew full well what they were capable of.</p>
<p>The choice is this: Putyin, Medvedyev, and those in the successor to the KGB<br />
who had dealings with Zawahiri before Putin became Prime Minister the first<br />
time, they and the entire apparatus have to be removed from their positions<br />
of influence.  There are two options: One is to redraw the borders of Russia<br />
so that the Kremlin can no longer use natural resources under its control as<br />
a weapon.  The other is to ultimately turn power over to Solidarity.  </p>
<p>As for Saakashvili, does he have the blood of journalists on his hands?  Plus, why did he make Yushchenko an ally, instead of an enemy.  For Viktor<br />
had a massive dose of dioxin that was off the charts, and if not for the professionalism of those who treated him, he would not have survived.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. X</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/russia-plays-nuclear-war-games-with-poland/#comment-439611</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the danger of pointless tit for tat between the U.S. and Russia. 

Have American siloviks, ex-CIA men like Paul Goble or James Woolsey talking about separatism in Russia? Here comes Igor Panarin, and instead of being simply laughed at by the Wall Street Journal like last year this year he&#039;s being feted by Tea Partyers in Houston. I haven&#039;t seen any Russian agents with suitcases full of cash outside the Republic of Texas HQ in Pecos County, but my Russian friends have blamed NGOs and otherwise benign looking types for giving cash to convicted terrorists in the Caucases. 

So...the danger of escalation is real, and the idea that Russia wants revenge for the collapse of the USSR and therefore the U.S. has the right to pursue policies to destabilize Russia can turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Want to hasten the odds of Chavez getting advisors? Then send even more troops and weapons to an equally unstable/fake democrat in Saakashvili. Simply because the latter went to Columbia and speaks smooth English doesn&#039;t make him better than the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the danger of pointless tit for tat between the U.S. and Russia. </p>
<p>Have American siloviks, ex-CIA men like Paul Goble or James Woolsey talking about separatism in Russia? Here comes Igor Panarin, and instead of being simply laughed at by the Wall Street Journal like last year this year he&#8217;s being feted by Tea Partyers in Houston. I haven&#8217;t seen any Russian agents with suitcases full of cash outside the Republic of Texas HQ in Pecos County, but my Russian friends have blamed NGOs and otherwise benign looking types for giving cash to convicted terrorists in the Caucases. </p>
<p>So&#8230;the danger of escalation is real, and the idea that Russia wants revenge for the collapse of the USSR and therefore the U.S. has the right to pursue policies to destabilize Russia can turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Want to hasten the odds of Chavez getting advisors? Then send even more troops and weapons to an equally unstable/fake democrat in Saakashvili. Simply because the latter went to Columbia and speaks smooth English doesn&#8217;t make him better than the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Tom at least you  pointed out that the USA (and other militaries) have simulated nuclear attacks on Russia (and vice versa) for decades, it&#039;s not anything new. 

&quot;Is it me or have others noticed that articles on serious issues of foreign policy are ignored by most PJM readers.&quot;

Absolutely, and too often at PJM -- even at the quality Belmont Club forum -- discussions devolve into either war porn fantasies or Cold War nostalgia describing all Russians as &quot;Sovs&quot; &quot;KGB&quot; etc. And paid anti-Russia hacks like Zigfeld don&#039;t help. More discussion of who profits and why Soros has taken certain tacks on Eastern Europe would be helpful, rather than just swallowing spoonfuls of rhetoric from each side. Certainly, Russia was not immune from the economic crisis in America, both because of the collapse in oil prices after the artificial speculative run up and because Russia&#039;s central bank ironically ended up buying too many dollar-denominated assets rather than too few. But don&#039;t hold your breath for the Wall Street Journal to ever criticize a foreign government for buying too much U.S. debt. And that shows me how objective these outlets that claim to be fair and pro-democratic around the world truly are.

&quot;Pilsudski saw the viciousness of Lenin, Trotsky, and the rest of the deformed souls who flocked to the hammer &amp; sickle.&quot; And David does seem to have a Pole&#039;s point of view, which is all well and good, except I don&#039;t want old man Bzrezinski making U.S. policy, anymore than I would want Netanyahu or Barak telling Obama what to do either. And at least one Polish marshall did stab the White armies in the back to grab a bigger chunk of Ukraine in 1919-1920, and that along with PL participation in the carve up of Czechoslovakia are all relevant points if there is to be historic reconciliation based on truth, as Solzhenitysn urged in an open letter to Poles. 

I am not saying that Russians should fear a repeat of the Time of Troubles aggression or that Poles should fear Russian tanks in Warsaw. Both are silly. But Russians are not paranoid to point out that the oligarchs during the Nineties Time of Troubles had many foreign accomplices, and that there are think tanks and groups like Jamestown that are basically set up to operate anti-Russia and have scarcely changed at all since the 1980s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Tom at least you  pointed out that the USA (and other militaries) have simulated nuclear attacks on Russia (and vice versa) for decades, it&#8217;s not anything new. </p>
<p>&#8220;Is it me or have others noticed that articles on serious issues of foreign policy are ignored by most PJM readers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, and too often at PJM &#8212; even at the quality Belmont Club forum &#8212; discussions devolve into either war porn fantasies or Cold War nostalgia describing all Russians as &#8220;Sovs&#8221; &#8220;KGB&#8221; etc. And paid anti-Russia hacks like Zigfeld don&#8217;t help. More discussion of who profits and why Soros has taken certain tacks on Eastern Europe would be helpful, rather than just swallowing spoonfuls of rhetoric from each side. Certainly, Russia was not immune from the economic crisis in America, both because of the collapse in oil prices after the artificial speculative run up and because Russia&#8217;s central bank ironically ended up buying too many dollar-denominated assets rather than too few. But don&#8217;t hold your breath for the Wall Street Journal to ever criticize a foreign government for buying too much U.S. debt. And that shows me how objective these outlets that claim to be fair and pro-democratic around the world truly are.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pilsudski saw the viciousness of Lenin, Trotsky, and the rest of the deformed souls who flocked to the hammer &amp; sickle.&#8221; And David does seem to have a Pole&#8217;s point of view, which is all well and good, except I don&#8217;t want old man Bzrezinski making U.S. policy, anymore than I would want Netanyahu or Barak telling Obama what to do either. And at least one Polish marshall did stab the White armies in the back to grab a bigger chunk of Ukraine in 1919-1920, and that along with PL participation in the carve up of Czechoslovakia are all relevant points if there is to be historic reconciliation based on truth, as Solzhenitysn urged in an open letter to Poles. </p>
<p>I am not saying that Russians should fear a repeat of the Time of Troubles aggression or that Poles should fear Russian tanks in Warsaw. Both are silly. But Russians are not paranoid to point out that the oligarchs during the Nineties Time of Troubles had many foreign accomplices, and that there are think tanks and groups like Jamestown that are basically set up to operate anti-Russia and have scarcely changed at all since the 1980s.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, Mr. X, why not google &quot;Check the numbers&quot; &quot;McKitrick&quot; &quot;McCullough&quot; to see what the US inflicted on the rest of the world.  

If you think that would slide, and the US not be held accountable, for its sloppy research, then you
have much to learn about human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, Mr. X, why not google &#8220;Check the numbers&#8221; &#8220;McKitrick&#8221; &#8220;McCullough&#8221; to see what the US inflicted on the rest of the world.  </p>
<p>If you think that would slide, and the US not be held accountable, for its sloppy research, then you<br />
have much to learn about human nature.</p>
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