Rush Limbaugh Denied NFL Ownership: Five Takeaway Lessons
Rush Limbaugh, who is the single most popular political talk show host in America, was denied an opportunity to invest tens of millions of dollars in the massive failure that is the St. Louis Rams. There are a number of lessons that can be taken away from that debacle. They include the following:
1) Liberals are so obsessive about their politics that it perverts and warps every other human impulse in their life. It’s why they try to turn every famous liberal funeral into a political rally, it’s why they have no qualms about spreading lies about their political opponents, and it’s even why so many liberals are atheists. There is simply no room for both God and liberalism in the life of many people on the left. To people like that, the idea that one of their political enemies should even be allowed to own part of a crummy football team is too much to endure.
2) The racist double standard is alive and well. How bizarre is it that parasitic human ticks like Jesse “Hymietown” Jackson and Al “Tawana Brawley” Sharpton are still treated like their opinions should matter on race? These guys are as bad as the KKK in their own way — and at least everyone treats the Ku Klux Klan like a bad joke. Meanwhile, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are just as race-obsessed, but they’re treated seriously and are making a comfortable living off of it.
Yet if Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, or any of the other race hustlers in America who like to exploit the issue for their own gain were to want to buy into the NFL, do you think it would be controversial? Welcome to Barack Obama’s “post-racial” America, where racial con artists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are respectable, but merely being a famous conservative makes you too much of a “racist” to own part of a football team.
3) In the eyes of the NFL, the worst thing you can apparently do is be a conservative. Rush Limbaugh is apparently too controversial for the NFL. Who isn’t? Keith Olbermann (who virulently hates all things conservative), dog abuser Michael Vick, and serial woman beater Lawrence Phillips. Heck, if Rae Carruth got out of jail tomorrow for conspiring to kill his girlfriend, you can almost be certain that some NFL team would take a chance on him. But a conservative who’s willing to drop tens of millions of dollars to invest in a lousy NFL team during a recession? No way! That’s “too controversial.”
4) The mainstream media puts ideology above facts when conservatives are involved. If you ever wanted proof — well, even more proof — that the mainstream media is biased against conservatives, all you need to do is look at the transparently phony collection of racist quotes that were passed around about Rush Limbaugh.
Professional sports bore the hell out of me, so I only know what hits the front page, not the sports page. After what I’ve seen of athletes’ behavior, you’re telling me the NFL is some image-conscious, “safe” organization that wants to avoid controversy? Beyond belief. There’s the biggest lesson I learned in all of this. They’re part of up-side-down land.
“No matter what the situation may be, it always seems like there is one set of rules for conservatives like Rush Limbaugh and a much more lenient, convenient set of rules for liberals.”
- That’s what happens when the commie-baby killers (the delusional wards of the state, formerly known as, liberals) own the WH, MSM, academia, pop-culture, racial hate, and the brainwashed minds of the young.
This double standard is no accident. It’s the commie-baby killers raison d’etre. Rush’s little NFL debacle is but collateral damage.
I keep hoping someone will wake me from this socialist takeover nightmare!
Conservatives should boycott the NFL over this. I will be.
Many more people are on Rushs side in this.The liberals strategy is nieve and childlike.People respect Rush.The liberals dont even respect one another,and who can blame them? PALIN2012
Email the NFL and ESPN and let them know you will be boycotting their merchandise and their advertisers. Make a note of every advertiser and email them as well, explaining why.
No, you can’t you progressive, liberal, socialist, Marxist, Fascist jerks!
to give credit to American Thinker, it is revealed that
NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith served as council to Attorney General Eric Holder and member of Barack Obama’s transition team.
We *all* know how obeyme and his minion’s feel about any and all conservative, but *ESPECIALLY* Rush. They live to bring them down.
I blame all problems for America on Rush. Just because I can. Makes a lot of sense when you realize how poisonous our food is, Rush created the Menu.
1) Naming a healthcare bill after a guy who has fought for it during much of his career, and who was the last of a generation of political giants in your country is hardly just a political rally, so much as it reminds liberally minded individuals of the ideals of the people who fought for the civil rights movement despite the massive, ignorant, and nasty resistance of conservatives. You want to talk about the perversion of politics, stop budding into people’s lives to tell them who they can marry, that the earth is just 5000 years old, and that climate change is a myth/unproven despite what the vast majority of the science tells us.
2) Yup. Jackson and Sharpton are dicks, but you know what? They’re not rich enough from selling people bullshit that they can afford to buy a football team. When that happens, we’ll worry about it, because right now there was a racist dick trying to buy a team with roughly 75% Black men on it. He’s racist because of all the real garbage (not the made up garbage) that pours out of his mouth.
On that note, let’s jump for a second to #4. There is often a fog of war. Villians are frequently blamed for many things they’ve said or done, not all of them true. Just because there are a few falsely attributed quotes doesn’t mean the other crap he has said is nullified, and that is on tape. He needs to accept responsibility for he has said, and it’s meaning and impact, and stop being such a weasel. Cripes, you’d think he’d stop weaseling out of stuff like he did with Vietnam, but once a cowardly sleaze, always a cowardly sleaze.
3) Yeah, those guys are mostly dicks too, though comparing Olbermann to these other guys is absurd. Olbermann is a blowhard, not a criminal. And as for the other guys… yeah, sure they probably shouldn’t play, but Limbaugh, it isn’t about being allowed to play, it’s about wanting to work for that sort of a dick who insults the skin of the guys working for him. Basically this was a “take this job and shove it” situation, one of the things that made America great. The market itself saw that the bigmouth wasn’t the sort of man to run a team, because too many people hate his guts for very good reasons.
4) See part 2.
5) This is pretty much just a “FINE! We’ll just take our balls and go home then. Hrumph!”
You are confusing conservatives and rightwing centrists with your sort of conservative. They kind who are rightwing nuts who ignore every fact set before them. You still thing Iraq attacked on 911. You still think there were WMDs. You still can’t understand that the Plame Affair was all about punishing a man who pointed out from the start that the Admin was ignoring evidence to go to war. You still haven’t admited that you accept torture, something the so-callled Greatest Generation used to find disgusting, and managed to avoid during an massive global conflict.
Remember the Dixie Chicks. They said one thing about a guy, not a bunch of things about a bunch of races, and individuals, over a multi-year career. And conservatives went nuts, pointing out that if they choose to have those views, they wouldn’t support them. Same thing goes here, but this isn’t about one comment, this is about dozens, and a general attitude towards a race of people.
So if you don’t like it. Find another sport, and watch lame conservative movies. Or don’t be such a bunch of babies, and stop being so stupid.
All the more reason that Rush should sue the living hell out of them.
Unlike their usual targets, he’s got provable damages to his financial situation (ie. the loss of the money he would have made had he been allowed to buy into a football team, no matter how crappy.) It’s not like what usually happens when they go after someone viciously. Palin/GWB/insert-the-name-of-a-not-liberal-here didn’t lose their jobs or a potential source of income due to lies and “jokes” told and retold over and over on the Legacy Media. He has.
I am also sure that he can afford some of the finest legal talent out there. These lawyers would know where to file their lawsuits to give them an advantage when it comes to jury selection, damages awarded, that kind of thing.
And finally, some of those outlets have deep pockets. They may be in love with far left idiocy, but they sure as hell don’t wanna spread their own wealth around if they can avoid it.
He can, and has, been effective in speaking out about the falsity of the racism claims, but until he scares the crap outta them and threatens their trust funds, they aren’t gonna knock this behavior off.
9. John:
“climate change is a myth/unproven despite what the vast majority of the science tells us.”
I can’t believe you tractable little Obamabots are still buying these tulips. Ever read “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds”,? didn’t think so. Remember y2k? Remember GW?
“So if you don’t like it. Find another sport”
I agree completely. A boycott of the NFL will do nicely. I will add it to my ongoing boycott of MSM and 90% of pop-(anti)culture.
I think the salient thing to note about this incident is that Rush Limbaugh was effectively blacklisted as a result of his political views. In a fashion reminiscent of the legends about McCarthyism.
Rush is a class act.
Here is yesterday’s transcript of Rush on NFLPA Obama henchman Demaurice Smith from his website:
“DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the Players Association is an Obamaite. He’s donated to Obama. He is a Washington lobbyist at Patton Boggs, and I think he even served on Obama’s transition team. He has no experience in professional sports. The National Football League’s agreement, collective bargaining agreement with the players expires soon. Next year, the salary cap — if they don’t get a new deal done, next year the salary cap — will go away. And after that, there is a fear that the owners — who think they’re giving up too much of the gross in salary, compensation to the players — might lock them out, a work stoppage. This is something that the Players Association doesn’t want, obviously.
And the real reason, the real reason — and there are many, many reasons that are valid, but the real reason — that pressure was brought upon me by Sharpton and Jackson and DeMaurice Smith and the commissioner is that the Players Association is using my involvement in the Rams and this whole episode as a bit of leverage in their negotiations, the upcoming negotiations with the league and with the owners on a new collective bargaining agreement. That is what’s really going on, and the Players Association… I don’t know how many players know this, but Mr. Smith has let it be known that if he has to he’ll bring the White House into this. He’ll bring the Congressional Black Caucus into this.
So Obama’s America is quite possibly going to include the National Football League, and pressure from Obama, the Congressional Black Caucus and other places might be brought to bear on the owners. I can’t imagine that that’s anything they want. You know, as all businesses are, they’re regulated to a certain extent by the federal government but this would be a huge expansion of that. And that threat is being bandied about. And I don’t expect anyone to admit it. The owners are not going to admit that. They don’t want to. I’m sure that the reaction to this today will be, “Ah, Limbaugh doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” It will be another one of these things, but that is one of the things that I do know is going on behind the scenes.
And of course to make me the poster boy here for, “Oh, my God look! These guys, would they ever consider Limbaugh?” It’s designed to intimidate the owners, frighten the owners and say, “We’re running this league now, gang, not you. Even though you may own the teams, we’re running it, not you,” and this was a little warning shot fired across the bow to the owners to say, “Get ready, here we come,” for the next collective bargaining agreement.”
Diana West notes a truly frightening precedent that is being set by Obama’s thugs.
Blackballing Conservatism
Oct 15 Written by: Diana West
Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:13 AM
This is an example of a black-ball ballot box, used famously by 19th-century men’s clubs to vote down a potential member via secret ballot (a black marble). After watching the blackballing of Rush Limbaugh this week — and, as I argue below, the blackballing of conservatism — I realize the contemporary version would have to be made of glass. There was nothing secret about what happened — which is part of the reason it was so frightening.
This week’s syndicated column:
Before I get to the chilling implications for free conservative speech underscored by the vicious, public campaign to blackball Rush Limbaugh as a potential owner of an NFL team, I want to provide a little context about the pre-existing NFL comfort zone of expression.
I will start with two words: Keith Olbermann. In addition to his nightly gig on MSNBC — a numbing blend of Leftist politics and something approaching Tourette’s syndrome — Olbermann is a co-host of NBC’s “Football Night in America,” the pre-game show that leads into “Sunday Night Football.” Naturally, that would be Sunday night NFL football.
This job, now into its third season, makes Olbermann not a team owner, of course, but certainly a public face of the NFL. And a public face of the NFL with many filthy things coming out of it. These include, just sampling from recent days, his pronouncement that Limbaugh claiming his own success paved the way for Glenn Beck is “is like congratulating yourself for spreading syphilis.” We could slap a headline on that — “NFL talker compares star radio and TV conservatives with venereal disease” — except that trash talk against conservatives doesn’t generate mainstream outrage.
Take Olbermann’s noxious attack this week on Michelle Malkin for what he characterized as her “total mindless, morally bankrupt, knee-jerk, fascistic hatred without which Michelle Malkin would just be a big mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick on it.”
Get that? Olbermann calls an accomplished and best-selling conservative author, commentator, blogger, wife and mother (who also happens to be beautiful) a “big mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick,” but such dehumanizing venom doesn’t count as controversial, or even lightly strain his NBC-NFL connection. Why, at this rate, he could end up on a box of Wheaties. His comments certainly don’t rate as “divisive” or “inappropriate” – two of the coded charges leveled at Rush Limbaugh’s “public remarks” by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay that got Limbaugh’s blackball rolling in the first place.
It was all over so fast. Barely a day passed between the news that Limbaugh was bidding with Dave Checketts for the St Louis Rams and the news that Checketts was dropping Limbaugh as a partner.
But what a day. It goes down in the annals as the day the demonization of conservatism achieved not consensus, but normalcy, and the day the marginalization of conservatives became not a public sport but a civic duty. Think about it. What happened to Limbaugh didn’t happen to a “dead white male” on a college campus; nor did it happen to a live white male in a government-mandated “sensitivity course.” What happened to Limbaugh took place in a uniquely exclusive slice of the private sector frequented by the super-mega-rich and ostentatious, the kind of people with the kind of money that buys protection from the pressures of what is thought of as public opinion. But what happened to Rush Limbaugh – call it “Rush-baiting” — reveals that what conservative blogger Lawrence Auster calls the “dictatorship enforced by the charge of racism” has absolutely no boundaries.
Limbaugh’s critics were so desperate to make a racism charge stick, to tag Limbaugh as untouchably “controversial,” that they resorted to demonstrable lies — statements Limbaugh never made — and purposely indemonstrable innuendo. Not that this mattered. As in all dictatorships, the charge itself suffices. It didn’t even matter that the dictatorship’s emissaries, the eternal charlatans Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who actively lobbied the NFL to oppose Limbaugh, are themselves serially discredited race hustlers. Again, the charge is all it takes to demonize and ostracize the opposition. And Rush Limbaugh — as the leading voice against the radicalism of the Obama administration, one of the most forceful opponents of the totalitarian social engineering we know as “affirmative action,” as one of the great communicators of basic conservative principles — definitely counts as the opposition.
But with the successful transformation of Limbaugh the potential team owner into Limbaugh the expendable “distraction,” his brand of opposition — a plain-speaking adherence to a conservatism best described as Reaganesque — has been judged unfit, unworthy even, for the sports-loving mainstream and sentenced to the margins. And that is what is most disturbing about this story. Conservatism in our time has been publicly defined as extremism. Which means, for conservatives, it’s time for some intensive historical revisionism of our own.
“” …. (We, The People’s) “post-racial” America, where racial con artists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are respectable …. “”
Are you suggesting that the marijuana-mumbling mobbed-up Mussolini-modeled modified-Marxist murtadd-Muslim racial (and every other kind of) con-artist, presently pretending to what these days is passed off as “the presidency,” is not?
I’ll drink to that!
the nfl doesn’t want to admit Rush to their league of crooks. i’m not talking about the players, i mean the owners. the problem with “those people” are that they think they own the people in the cities that are hosting the parasitic teams.
“” …. if Rae Carruth got out of jail tomorrow for conspiring to kill his girlfriend, you can almost be certain that some NFL team would take a chance on him.”"
Why not?
After all Hitler’s (and Buraq Hussayn 0zero’s) little helper, György Schwartz (AKA: “George Soros”) is one of the group after the subject ball-gaming gaggle of goons — and an America-hating former Nazi apparently poses the nfl’s reverse-cycle moral integrity no problems.
Hoping Rush sues….
If the NFL responds to anything, its controversy. It doesn’t like it. Right now there are probably a handful of owners the NFL wishes it didn’t have (Al Davis, Mike Brown, etc). Given that Rush is a polarizing figure, and a prominent one at that, I am not surprised that the NFL would not want him as an owner. Besides, his radio show would start getting non stop calls from ticked off Rams fans as its not like that sorry franchise is going to get turned around with just a new ownership…
The most important lesson is that leftists lie all the time. They know that their ideas for American society could never gain majority support, or anywhere near it, if presented explicitly, so they proceed as follows: 1) find and/or manufacture a reasdonable sounding grievance; 2) build up that grievance, make it sound “systemic”; 3) demonize anyone and everyone on the other side by associating them with that that “injustice”; 4) create legislative proposal with nice sounding names that will deal with that “injustice” by setting up a new government bureaucracy; 5) use the law and the new bureaucracy, along with constant repetitions of 1-4, to work their way towards what they originally wanted: a socialist state in which hatreds between groups are used to control the people and justify further control.
Each step along the way requires a whole bodyguard of lies. This time they let their guard down by doing it to Rush so openly and carelessly. Their hatred got the better of their caution, which is good news–that’s been happening a lot lately. They are driving themselves to a cliff–the problem now is to push them over it before they take all of us with them.
Gosh,John, you have the stereotypes down pat. You know Limbaugh is a racist, how? If you’re going to make statements like that you have to cite examples. Real ones. Otherwise you’re just a kid on the playground pointing a finger and calling, racist!
The real losers are the Rams. Not just the money but the enthusiasm and energy that Limbaugh could bring to the team.
Why is it that when people talk about Al Sharpton, they always mention Tawana Brawley but never mention Freddie’s Fashion Mart? I would call inciting 7 murders based on race a far worse crime.
I will not be boycotting the NFL, however, since it was the investor group that dropped him. Although, given the way my Bills are playing this year, I probably won’t be watching much of it anyway.
This is how Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals work.
Rush should sue the hell out everyone and anyone that repeated those damnable lies about what he said. Then he should and we all should stop watching the NFL and ESPN and don’t by any products of thier sponsors. Don’t buy the over priced tickets, cancel your subsriptions to the cable channels.
Lastly Rush should announce he will never very have anything to do with the NFL and its associates again. Then sit back and watch who has the last laugh.
Under the new Obama-Sharpton-Wright-Jackson regime, it’s a dead heat: which will be criminalized first, buying and selling while doctor or buying and selling while white?
“So if you don’t like it. Find another sport”
Do go to that other football, soccer: MLS has already made concessions when faced with phony charges of “racism.”
Rush Limbaugh has been “slandered”. It is that simple.
He has a right to defend himself. It is that simple.
There are many people connected with the NFL that are proven biased and proven criminal. It is that simple.
The NFL doesn’t deserve Rush Limbaugh.
So the little boy didn’t get his toy?
He’s got plenty of marbles, so who knows what’s next.
He’s always very entertaining, but he better watch what he says or the next toy will be denied. Suggestion: invest in something scientific, not speculative.
John:
“…stop budding into people’s lives…” Talk about BUTTING in; show me a liberal policy that doesn’t interfere with the lives of the citizens of this country. Healthcare – government telling people what they can and can’t get for their healthcare. Cap and trade – government telling people what temperature they can keep their house at, what energy sources can be used, how much gas will be, etc…. Executive pay – what employees of a PRIVATE company can make. Butting in? Open your eyes.
If you don’t like what is going on. . . .vote with your wallet!
John at 8: I am curious. Did you graduate from an accredited high school? What are you talking about?
Did you meds wear off and the delusions usually hidden by them spill onto this post? Wow! Even DS and some of the others at least make some sense….well not really but you are off the charts.
You have convinced me. All the NFL had to do was say, it’s a free country. But they took the anti-conservative side and refused to back down, even when it was proven that the anti-Rush people were fabricating their evidence.
But will they pay a price for this political move of injustice? Either offended fans will demand their money back for season tickets, NFL advertisers will get calls that their products will not be purchased, and TV ratings will plummet, or else the bad guys win again.
Gail
#8 John:
“He’s racist because of all the real garbage (not the made up garbage) that pours out of his mouth. ” Name some. Tell what he said and when he said it. Liberals keep claiming that the false quotes are very much like what Rush really says, but then they never have any real quotes to back that up.
“You still think there were WMDs.” Right. It was all a lie. Just ask the relatives of the thousands of dead Kurds who were never gassed by Saddam.
As a card carrying “sports”-hater (and this comes from someone with a pretty good record in winter sports), I deeply despise the NFL (Olympics as well) and other mass “sports” events & rackets –
It’s “Panem & Circense”, an, alas! easy way to control the mob’s emotional needs for belonging and bonding, and the fact that it’s the last century’s fascism and communism that brought these group-controlling arrangements to today’s nation-wide dimensions (in America & elsewhere) shows how rigged sports are used to muffle individualism and critical spirit and deflect the mob’s (anyway fleeting) attention from the republic(s)’ business -
So, the only true problem with the NFL or other rackets like it is its popularity, i.e. the fact that so many Americans have became some meek sheep whose emotions are guided through weekly sessions of group sweating & yelling in admiration for someone who throws a pneumatic ball through a ring, or runs by a post, pneumatic ball under arm – for any extraterrestial observers here seeking signs of intelligence hardly proofs of evidence -
Die, NFL scums, die! Yet this won’t happen, and these debasing weekly ceremonies will thrive, soon absorbing all this planet’s inhabitants into a vast, wiggling, perspired & hoarsely yelling plankton mass of fat & stupid sports fans – Obama supporters chief elements amongs them -
Can’t handle a conservative? Spare me the melodrama. They can’t handle someone who is politically DIVISIVE. If he was a conservative and didn’t make his millions attacking a segment of America who don’t follow his views, then there wouldn’t be a problem. Sports and politics shouldn’t mix.
Boycott Football for all I care though. I prefer Soccer and its regaining of the name Football is what I’d like to eventually see.
NFL: Profiles in Cowardous Behavior: Winner Roger Godel – Commissioner. What a spineless worm to take comments made 10 years ago and use it as an excuse to cut Rush out of the ownership club. It is disgusting. No statute of limitations for conservatives. Wife beaters, coke dealers, drunk drivers who commit manslaughter and dog abusers are all welcomed back in the NFL, if their agents show enough remorse. But conservatives are the lowest of the low and should not be included in the above group.
Rush you are too good for that pile of crap. In the end it is a boy’s game that pays uneducated people more money in a year than most people can make over a life time. They are not heroes or role models. The NFL means not for long. And that goes for the guys who play the game. In a few years they are broken, broke and unemployable. They live on the few memories of the fame they once enjoyed. It is a step above dog fighting. But we are not that cruel to animals.
Thanks Godel you showing us what the game of pro football is really like.
Gail,
They have a right to do so and decline Rush’s ownershib — But not by endorsing slander and libel as a pretext so that a preferred buyer can get in. If they don’t want a conservative as a conservative then fine. Let the chips fall, this is an organization that allows rapists, wifebeaters and dogbaiters (Oh MY!) in but has no room for conservatives according to their… ahem… “liberal” betters (rapists, wifebeaters, and dogbaiters?!?!? Liberal?!?!? Can I get another “Oh MY!”?).
This is no different then me leveraging innuendo (and out the other) about that Kiddie Porn Dungeon you have so I can get others to vote you out of the condo association. We may not like the music play when you drive in and out of the garage, or leave smelly food in the dumper (but those just aren’t enough to justify it), but you DO where white shoes after labor day. And then there’s that Kiddie Porn Dungeon we all know about you having thanks to that anonymous Wiki entry on you.
Rush is a huge football fan. So are many of his fans. If the NFL dissed on Rush, the fans can diss on the NFL. How do we contact the NFL?
Mid, it’s not about being divisive, it’s about being the wrong kind of divisive. Is letting a wifebeater or a dogfighter into the divisive? Yeah. But they did it.
And I’m a rugby (union) kind of guy myself. Those football nancies in all the gear and padding… and they call it a contact sport? (Contact sport my arse. A rugby team, you be the judge on soccer, would never have been so non-confrontational about Rush’s politics so as to have to leverage fabrications from wikipedia.)
For my part, I’ve written NBC Sports – nbcsportshelp@nbcuni.com – to let them know that I will no longer watch Sunday Night Football since they employ a hateful, controversial person on the show – Olberman.
As for boycotting sponsors of the NFL or getting rid of season tickets, what would be the reason? Rush was dropped before the owners had a chance to vote. For all we know, he might have gotten enough votes to win. I could see people wanting to take action against the NFL if they voted against him and it was found to be because he was a conservative, but it never got to that stage.
I seriously doubt we’re going to see any kind of backlash over this from the fans. More than anything, fans love their football. Does anyone really think a Dallas or New England season ticket holder is going to demand money back for their season tickets over this? Hell no. Plus, there are lines of people waiting for season tickets, so, if one drops out, there are 10 more waiting.
The National Felons League is Freddo to me, anyway. Vick and fellow felons have already accomplished that. I hope Mr. Limbaugh ends up owning the entire league after his law suits are settled.
The NFL owners cannot reasonably claim that they can do as they please with their property, because NFL franchises are sold in a free market. No, the NFL is exempt from anti-trust laws.
Speaking of anti-trust, the St. Louis Post Dispatch columnist and the CNN and MSNBC opinionators who smeared Limbaugh with quotes they can’t verify are doing their best to abolish trust in what Limbaugh calls the “drive-by media.” I haven’t checked the cable networks’ audience figures recently but I did notice that the St. Louis Post-Dispatch lost 6.5% of their circulation last year according to the Audit Bureau of Circulation (unlike that newspaper and Rachel Maddow, I provide sources). How can their contemptible lies against so popular a media figure as Limbaugh bring back the readers they have lost? Wouldn’t the exposure of smears like theirs tend to drive even more readers away?
Welcome, one and all, to Limbaughpalooza! All whine all the time! He of the bloated gaseous head got bitch slapped! Kicked to the curb. Flushed. Oh, what was that phrase . . . The ego has landed! Why?
Some quotes, which Rush was free to say, and free to suffer for:
“We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles … because his father was black.”
“I do believe” Obama is an “angry black guy.”
“[I]n Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering.”
“Obama’s entire economic program is reparations.”
Obama is “more African in his roots than he is American” and is “behaving like an African colonial despot.”
Obama is “Halfrican-American.”
“Obama has disowned his white half … he’s decided he’s got to go all in on the black side.”
Sotomayor “a reverse racist” appointed by Obama, “the greatest living example of a reverse racist.”
Obama “wants us to have the same health care and plan that he had in Kenya” and “wants to be the black FDR.”
Latching onto LA Times op-ed, Limbaugh does “Barack, The Magic Negro.”
“God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama”; Obama “has yet to prove he’s a citizen.”
Limbaugh on Gates controversy: “Here you have a black president trying to destroy a white policeman.”
Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he’d known they were “actually young, black Muslim teenagers.”
Limbaugh suggests Democrats, media believe “you can’t criticize the little black man-child.”
“The government’s been taking care of [young blacks] their whole lives.”
“The days of [minorities] not having any power are over, and they are angry.”
“[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize.”
Limbaugh: “The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.”
Limbaugh says “NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips.” (BTW, did you see Rush try to defend this the other day? Pathetic.)
Limbaugh declares basketball “the favorite sport of gangs.”
Limbaugh invented “racial component” to Hackett’s decision to withdraw from Ohio primary race.
Limbaugh on Survivor series: “African-American tribe” worst swimmers, Hispanics “will do things other people won’t do.”
Limbaugh suggested Colin Powell only supported Obama because of race.
Limbaugh: Gates is an “angry racist.”
Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an “invasive species.”
Limbaugh repeatedly calls Native Americans “Injuns.”
Limbaugh says Democrats’ interest in Darfur is securing black “voting bloc.”
Limbaugh says that if “feminazis” had remembered to oppose “affirmative action for black guys … they wouldn’t face the situation they face today.”
Those quotes, they’re all true. They matter to me. They don’t matter to you. They should. But they don’t. And you’re diminished for it. Diminished for your tacit defense of a bigot. A defense based in a larger sense of social entitlement common among conservatives. “I want it, so I should get it.” A sense that manifests itself here in the misguided idea that El Rushbo has somehow been wronged. It was just the capitalist system at work – Limbaugh dumped by his would-be partners. Why? Because he was getting in the way of their investment. And if you stand in the way of profit in this country, you’re not going to be standing for long. All true. You don’t like it. But it’s true.
Bitch slapped! By the thing he loved most. For all the world to see. His arrogance and impunity crammed right back down his throat. Choked on his own words. Clearly the good Lord loves football and wasn’t about to let this happen. Thank you, Jesus.
I would boycott the NFL over this if I weren’t already turned off. I live in Houston. My team is the Texans. Nuff said.
Well in European soccer you have teams associated with left wing/anti-fascists (St. Pauli in Germany, Marseille in France, Livorno in Italy, Celtic in Scotland), fascists (SS Lazio in Italy and Chelsea in the UK), and even Jews (Tottenham in the UK and Ajax Amsterdam).
Maybe to call it even Soros should buy a NFL team as well.
It’s a vast football conspiracy!
I hope Rush a preparing a lawsuit against everyone who passed around the false quotes. Talk to Mark Levin: he has a legal theory which is that if you break up a business deal by spreading lies, you can be responsible for damages. Its an easirer standard than libel.
The old “like water off a ducks back thing” that Rush used to promote doesn’t work. It just turns conservatives into doormats.
Rush has been giving the NFL pletny of free publicity over the years. Rush should never mention the NFL, football, or football games again on his show until the NFL commissioner apologies to him for how he was treated.
Dan Rather vs. The Truth, redux.
John Hawkins.
“1) Liberals are so obsessive about their politics that it perverts and warps every other human impulse in their life.”
“…and it’s even why so many liberals are atheists.”
Much of your article centers on the use of false accusations and false conclusions by one group or person to demean and deny another group or person. I wouldn’t describe myself as a (modern) liberal, but I am an atheist. Certainly most atheists are not perverted and warped about every human impulse. And certainly most liberals are not perverted and warped about every human impulse.
I am not arguing whether or not the names mentioned have been correctly assigned with cause to one group or another. I think the evidence speaks for itself, and each of us can decide one way or another on the merits of the case presented. However…
Your are committing the same error that your article centers on.
If I were a believer, I would tell you to go to Hell. But since I am not, I’ll just say, Have a Nice Day.
As Rush’s brother, David, said in his column today, in the end this isn’t about Rush–it’s about the totalitarian Left in power. Anyone who says anything apart from the company line needs to be destroyed. Lying is no problem for them at all, because they know it either won’t get reported or they will have the “fake but accurate” defense–we all know that’s what he/she/they are, so what’s wrong with a little poetic license?
They have unmasked themselves with breathtaking rapidity since they have been in power. The problem for Americans who wish to fight back against this assault on our freedoms is to build long term, effective resistance, that doesn’t depend upon any political party. Think of the Leftist initiatives now in play as an “occupation”–occupations are hard to maintain, especially when they seek greater and greater control over the lives of the occupied. So, to put it bluntly: how can we make sure that “health care reform,” “cap’n trade” and anything else they shove down our throats simply don’t work? How can they be undermined? If even 25-30% of the population is determined to resist, we can make it extremely difficult to sustain these obscenities.
The Left is out to destroy anyone who is not part of their stagnant group think; the double standard between Democrats & Conservatives/Republicans is a schism. Rush Limbaugh is the most obvious example, but others remain. The Left has become a totalitarian & rigid in their ideology to the point that the Communists have taken over the Democrats from within begun in the 1960′s & is seen in their “leader” President Obama & his radical associates from within his administration.
Sounds like Rush, and now his brother, are using this as means to boost their other ratings in terms of listeners and readers. I wouldn’t expect less of them.
You guys needs to face the fact that a whole lot of America despises Rush Limbaugh and the NFL does not want to be apart of that. That’s why he is no longer a NFL commentator and that is why he won’t be a NFL owner.
Boycott away. It will fizzle out in two weeks.
Everyone that put out the lies about Rush need to be brought to task. They need to prove each and every word.
The left just throws it out…no matter the depth of the lie. This is a huge thing in our country. It not only effects Rush, it effects our freedoms.
The problem is that the people that DO NOT listen to Rush will believe this black racists crap. I’m wondering just how dumb the population of America has become to fall for this sort of stuff.
Are Sharpton and Jackson the new face of America? How degrading would that be… Vick, in prison, an animal torturer is allowed to play..in prison..wife beaters, cheats etc.. Yet a man that stands up for American principles is shut out?
We better re examine our country fast. We will end up like Nigeria, Somalia etc.. What the hell has happened to our countr???
Rush was not denied NFL ownership – he was dropped by his fellow investors because he is a lightning rod and was disrupting their bid. Nobody to blame here but Rush.
Peace.
DS
The NFL consists of man-boys unable to speak a coherent sentence when interviewed. Listening to Chargers Shawne Merriman, Patriots Randy Moss etc., I liken to nails scratching a chalkboard.
Game antics recently showed 49′er Dre Bly celebrating a late game interception though his team was down 25 points. Apparently there is an ‘I’ in team.
Other antics such following a sack, loss in yards tackles, touchdowns etc., is moronic and childish.
How about the player cracking his head open during pre-game intro. Wow..
The show ‘Cribs’ takes a video team inside celebrities lavish homes. Not 1 professional football player visited had 1 book in their mansion. Sadly their children’s rooms hadn’t one, either.
The murder investigations, rape/ assault incidents, alleged gang association, DUI’s amongst both players and coaches, drug/steroid use, illegal firearms, players still kicking it with their old friends- some are gang members, punching female dancers, the crybabies, the egos, on and on..
There’s plenty to say about the owners as well. Jerry Jones, Mark Cuban et al.
I rarely listen to the radio, let alone Limbaugh but believe he was spared being associated with this merry band of morons, i.e. the NFL ‘family’.
#43 Now And Then:
“Those quotes, they’re all true. They matter to me. They don’t matter to you. They should. But they don’t.”
The problem is that it is the quotes that Limbaugh claims were falsely attributed to him by the news organizations that published or broadcast them that are going to be at issue before the court.
If those MSM outlets that published and broadcast those specific quotes cannot prove their veracity, then none of what he actually otherwise might have said is going to matter one bit, and will not be allowed to be entered as any sort of evidence, since it’s purpose is to obfuscate the issue by arguing beside the point.
Mr. Limbaugh will profit handsomely from the slack standards of what passes for professional journalism, if they cannot prove that he said what they said he said.
“And you’re diminished for it. Diminished for your tacit defense of a bigot.”
It is your opinion that he is a bigot, but this is debatable.
What should be determined is the factual matter of if it is meretricious politically-motivated liars that YOU are defending.
Which diminishes more? Tolerating a bigot, or defending those who deliberately spread lies?
My football following days go back to Bart Starr, Paul Hortung George Hallas, and Vince Lombardy to name a few in the NFL. This is why I now advise Rush not to bother with the media; after all the eagle does not hunt flies.
No, bring suit against the NFL. Drag them into a long public court battle and expose them so when they ask for new stadiums at taxpayer expense the public will be armed and ready for them. This should put an end to sneaky political deals for taxing citizens for these stadiums.
As an atheist conservative I find the notion that not having an super powerful imaginary friend as a bad thing and some how points to what is wrong with liberals to be disgusting. The author would be well served to take a deep look at the implications of his notions.
And the UFL is an upstart league. Rush should get in the ground floor and build a league that can rival if not surpass the NFL.
Ladies and Gentlemen (conservatives that is)
It is time to put our money where our mouths are. Rush is too controversial? Fine. Oldman is appropriate? Fine. This season and until they figure out a way to fix their obvious moronic syndrome, I will not support them. I am not boycotting them. I simply will watch NO games, pre games, specials, sports networks including the NFL. I will not listen to Jim Rome, ESPN radio, or any other station carrying NFL games. I will buy no product that benefit the NFL. I will attend NO games of any kind, shape or variety (even if given tickets for free). To me the NFL has ceased to exist.
While I am only one person I hope many other conservatives will find it in their hearts to do the same. Let the NFL see how well they get along with the Brie chomping, arugula chewing, Evian swilling, pate proffering crowd. Maybe if they put tutu’s on their players and have them dance down the field the “intelligensia” will be willing to sneak a peak. (I wouldn’t bet the Smart Car on it, though)
The “R-word” is now equivalent to the “N-word.” It should not ever be spoken…but that will not prevent the bigots on the left from using it!
“Professional sports — an industry that forgives and employs accused rapists, wife-beaters, and other assorted criminals — just can’t handle a conservative.”
Well, Johnny, you’ve gotta draw the line somewhere.
“The NFL’s players union, which has a majority of black members, had come out strongly against Limbaugh, while some players said they would not play for any team in which he had a stake.”
I would be willing to bet that 99.999% of these players have NEVER listened to Rush. They’re a bunch of over priced buffoons that are led around by the checkbook.
Having Rush as a owner would jeopardize their ignorance.
I return to this post to come full circle from my first comment, where I noted that professional sports bore me (hence, I would never miss the NFL).
Seriously folks, boycott it? Nice sentiment, but you know you won’t. Just like me, if the next Cameron Diaz movie gets a good review, I’ll go see it. We outraged conservatives are going to have to get creative or honest about our reaction to industries we love (sports, entertainment, fashion) that are dyed blue. Punish them, ignore them, attempt to change or replace them? I’ve never seen or heard a serious, effective idea about it.
A good article John Hawkins. The thing is, America’s Socialists and Fascists, all counterfeit Americans, will always attack Conservatives who are genuine Americans.
Well, an important page has been turned: if you are a conservative you don’t have the same rights of all the other Citizens.
This officially establishes the communist regime.
We better be aware of the meaning of what has happened: today is Rush, tomorrow will be everyone of us. We will be denied the right to speak, to have a job, to use our money in legal ways as we please.
The commie apartheid has begun.
Thank you to all the trolls that with all their words confirm that we are in a regime.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
PS Now more than ever it is important to remember that our dissent must be peaceful.
The regime has been built pretty strongly (in the last forty years) and the prison guards of the re-education camps are just waiting for the wrong move from some nut.
We must debate peacefully, present our ideas, tell the truth about the dangers for the Republic.
All the commies do is trying to provoke despair, don’t play their game.
God is Love,
Freedom will prevail.
We shall overcome.
David S (#55), you don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh; otherwise, you would not make such an ignorant statement. The owners came to Rush; he did not seek them out. The NFL owners sought out Rush Limbaugh. He signed on after a meeting & he was assured they would stay with him when he predicted the firestorm produced by the MSM. After the NFL owners got squemish, they asked Rush to back out. He would not. He said the only way for him to be let go is go publicly fire him. They did.
The NFL needs someone like Rush Limbaugh given their other owners will soon be the US government & President Obama. How’s GM & Chrysler going? Oh, they’re losing money. I fully expect the NFL to be in the same boat of they don’t get their act together.
The MSM made up blatant lies to smear Limbaugh; they deserve to be taken to court for slander.
Why would any sane person listen to “obama the whinner ” or watch criminals become millionares playing sports . I would think that you could watch sports at the local prison cheaper and you might be able to see your favorite player quite cheap..
Right!!
I sincerely hope Rush demands their statements be challenged. O’Reiley has searched and there are no statements that even resemble the ones attributed to Rush.
The left may laugh, but they too will pay a price for their freedom when it’s gone. The liberals think socialism will be a utopia, but they best look at the countries where it is,has been , and failed miserably.. No welfare guys…that should shock you.
If some of you actually listened to Rush you would not put out the silly drivel that you have here.
Totalitarianism is, literally, the politicization of everything.
With the politicization of the National Felons’ League, America’s journey to the Dark Side now seems complete.
@67. Sebastian Shaw:
David S (#55), you don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh; otherwise, you would not make such an ignorant statement. The owners came to Rush; he did not seek them out. The NFL owners sought out Rush Limbaugh.
You assume a lot. I am well aware of the background in this case – Rush relied on his partners, rather than vetting the investment himself. His lack of due diligence came back to bite him in the form of his removal from the bid.
He signed on after a meeting & he was assured they would stay with him when he predicted the firestorm produced by the MSM. After the NFL owners got squemish, they asked Rush to back out. He would not. He said the only way for him to be let go is go publicly fire him. They did.
How is that different from what I said?
The NFL needs someone like Rush Limbaugh given their other owners will soon be the US government & President Obama. How’s GM & Chrysler going? Oh, they’re losing money. I fully expect the NFL to be in the same boat of they don’t get their act together.
I fully expect you to forget that you wrote this when this has all blown over.
The MSM made up blatant lies to smear Limbaugh; they deserve to be taken to court for slander.
I hope he tries to sue so he can have his derriere handed to him once again.
Peace.
DS
That, for example, was the objection that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell voiced: Rush is too “divisive” to be involved with the NFL.
What a freakin’ wimp that guy Goodell is.
All the race baiters came out of the woodwork with the false Rush quotes and so forth because they’re freakin’ cowardly wimps as well.
Typical of shallow, liberal types, can’t win on the merits, attempt to win on the slander.
Peace on you too Vapid S.
I don’t know about you guys but I have a list of “Will not watch/listen” conservative haters. The list is long and getting longer by the day. The NFL is now officially one of them. As for the gentleman above who said that he would watch a Cameron Diaz movie even though she is a hollow headed slut, look in the mirror. You are supporting her and all she stands for when you pay to see her crap. For the NFL to say that they have some sort of a standard is ridiculous! Do you remember the good old days when the MEN who played in the NFL scored touchdowns and made plays that they were expected to make WITHOUT all of the dancing and hoopla? Remember when the coach was the highest paid person on the team? Yeah, those days are gone and replaced with the hoodlums and felons we now call the NFL.
Limbaugh’s critics were so desperate to make a racism charge stick, to tag Limbaugh as untouchably “controversial,” that they resorted to demonstrable lies — statements Limbaugh never made — and purposely indemonstrable innuendo. Not that this mattered. As in all dictatorships, the charge itself suffices. It didn’t even matter that the dictatorship’s emissaries, the eternal charlatans Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who actively lobbied the NFL to oppose Limbaugh, are themselves serially discredited race hustlers. Again, the charge is all it takes to demonize and ostracize the opposition. And Rush Limbaugh — as the leading voice against the radicalism of the Obama administration, one of the most forceful opponents of the totalitarian social engineering we know as “affirmative action,” as one of the great communicators of basic conservative principles — definitely counts as the opposition.
Blackballing Conservatism
Im a college ball man, myself. Heck being from Detroit, its tough to even be interested in the NFL…
The Lions Motto? “wait till next year”
I think rush limbaugh should be able to invest his money in anything he wants. Hey…what about the lions? when they find out maybe/// just maybe.. they will get mad enough to….win a game? nahhhhh, maybe not…
Good Luck to Rush Limbaugh !
Ah, the trolls here are nothing if not predictable.
Step 1: Ceremonial Parading of the Straw Men
Step 2: Hypergraphia Agitato
Step 3: Closing Remarks: The Value of Adolescent Insults Sputtered at Strangers
So the defense is: well, they’re the sort of thing he would have said, had he said them. The Rams, Rush? Save your money…
This grouping and trashing of all NFL players by some of the commenters here is wrong. Many NFL players are not thugs and criminals. They are entertainers, earning a living, making the most of opportunities presented to them, using the talents they have. Most players are likely to be much more concerned about the next opponent, and their preparation for that task. It’s gainful employment. Don’t drag them though this situation with unfounded and unsupportable accusations based on the actions of others.
This is Conservatism?
Is it possible that some of the broad based bashing comments on this subject show inclinations toward the techniques of a vivo, a Now and Then, a jharp, or a Moho etc.?
Now and Then is a put-on, right? And John too?
Rush’s race baiting and other lowly comments would have been bad for the league image, and hurt Pro football marketing and family appeal. There is no reason to bring someone like Rush on board, it’s all negative and risk for the league, they can get what he offers (money to buy a team) from other places. Rush is talented at his job, but he is not the talent of the NFL, the talent is the players. When players go wrong, you are talking about the talent, and usually people that are already well-liked by the fan base. Players are punished etc, but ownership and the league are in a business, and must balance the needs of justice etc along with consideration of working with TV networks , unions, etc. and the knowledge that the players are the talent. The league and Rush have never shown much in the way of ethical concerns or considerations. its a business and it was a smart business move to keep out Rush, he’s all risk with no upside for the league, one should think that the apologists for the Market should not be so weepy eyed over its mechanisms simply because it has worked against the interests of one of their own.
72. tanstaafl,
Actually I believe Rush is the race-baiter as it’s been shown. Sharpton and the like are more race hucksters.
Rush’s race baiting and other lowly comments would have been bad for the league image, and hurt Pro football marketing and family appeal.
One problem, arthur. It’s all made up, with the exception of the 2003 (?) statement re the league wanting a black quarterback to succeed and, therefore, over-rating the talents of Donovan McNabb.
Your observation is just, factually, wrong.
You should try to get a transcript of what Limbaugh’s “official Obama criticizer” Bo Snerdley just said over the air on Rush’s show.
If you want to hear something profoundly true on all of this and funny as hell to boot.
There is absolutely NO valid reason for the NFL to allow an injection of Political BS into their business. The article hits the nail on the head, particularly the very last paragraph. How would the US be different if all conservatives just stopped buying anything from liberal supporting companies??? The change would be SHOCKING!
No one here, or anywhere else can quote ANY racial statement ever made by Rush. No one…because it simply doesn’t exist.
The trolls keep showing that they would have believed anything published by hitler’s state propaganda machine, by stalin’s state propaganda machine, etc.
Congrats, sheeple.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
PS For your pleasure, review the video of Obama speaking at the annual Press Conference and telling them “You have all voted for me” with a big smile…AND THEY CLAPPED THEIR HANDS !!!
PPS The homo sovieticus is still with us, and the homo fascisticus too (“differentia specifica” ? …hard to find)
#80 Smoke etc. – John maybe but Now and Then is in full moron mode more less … every freaking time.
Arthur, Rush did not race bait anyone; he is not a racist of any kind. Brent Bozell has asked the MSM to cite their sources for Rush’s quote, but they are silent. Why? The quote is false. The media made it up. In college, making up sources for a paper gets you an F; however, the MSM can be so flagrant & negligent is their sourcing they get away with it based that they are all reporting the same thing: lies.
Rush needs to sue the pants of CNN & any other media who used the source. He should win given the slander made him lose his NFL bid. In other words, Rush lost potential money from the slander.
Wow! Loved this article. Exactly spot on. I stopped supporting these media hypocrites a long time ago. They weren’t going to be laughing all the way to the bank with my money at least. It’s just so frustrating that they continue to get face time spewing this stuff. It should be so obvious they are projecting onto us what is actually their bent, not ours. We’ve got to stop giving them our money to bludgeon us with.
I love football but I love honesty and decency even more. The only effective way for conservatives to respond to the NFL’s rejection of Limbaugh (based on smears)and embrace of Olberman (despite his partisan viciousness) is to boycott the NFL.
It needn’t be forever and if enough people join me starting this Sunday it won’t be. I will no longer be content with just changing the channel whenever Olberman is on.
Mr. lucky, eh DS: Wrong! The NFLPA and the mostly black NFL players tacitly all agreed with the outcome so they are to be summarily trashed. They are guilty of the same bigotry and lynching that befell their ancestors. Only now it is okay to do since the white elitist provide cover for them. And just what NFL do you watch: the list of criminals in today’s NFL is long. So don’t come on here and sermonize us with your sanctimonious liberal pap about these thugs are just making a living. BS
This is rich:”Don’t drag them though this situation with unfounded and unsupportable accusations based on the actions of others.” This is the MO for the left. How come the left gets a pass when it comes to unsubstantiated and verifiable lies made against us on the right–Rush?
DS: Typically you fall with those who abrogate the Constitution, our laws, and civility. You are a joke. By the way using the other moniker of Mr. Lucky is childish.
n&t: Exposed yourself as working for CAP or whomever with the quotes. We now all know you are a plant. And a vile one at that–comments about Beck’s child. I’d still like to kick you in the balls except I am sure they’ve been cut off by the left you work for.
Attempts to repress thefuture will fail,American society is at a tipping point,Libtardism recognized this, and is futilely trying to hold back a conservative tsunami that will undo all the degeneracy:political,moral,and economic,with which the babay boomers infected this nation.BOYCOTT FOOTBALL.BUY GUNS AND AMMO AND TRAINING WITH THE MONEY INSTEAD!AND TELL THE LIBERAL SCUM TO GO TO HELL!
92. deguello,
Oh, swell. March of the American Taliban. How about a free market on thought and morals. You want the economy to be a free for fall, then keep your morality garbage away from me.
As a conservative AND an atheist, I find your description of so many liberals being atheist to be a problem for the conservative movement. Conservatism and religion do not go hand in hand however much religionists (mostly christian) usurp the conservative moevement. Keep your religion out of the argument so you don’t confirm the liberal belief that conservatives are a bunch of bible-thumping hillbillies.
Best thing to do is keep our Conservative $$$ to ourselves and let the liberals feed off themselves.
To your point of being to forgiving, a caller today to Rush’s show asking about the new season of 24. He and Rush cannot wait for the show to come on. We should ALL be NOT WATCHING 24 as they give work to Genine racist teabagger! If they want to employ her that is their decision, but they should do it without our viewership, and our calls to THEIR advirtisers just like they do Rush and Glen.
For those of you that have Facebook, there is now a group called “Punt The NFL”, started in response to the NFL’s double standard regarding conservatives. Link here:
http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=punt+the+nfl&init=quick#/group.php?gid=288535285173&ref=search&sid=1615697532.1937200146..1
I’m not the owner, nor do I know the owner of this page, but nevertheless, if you have Facebook, I encourage you to join this group.
I always thought paying hard-earned money to watch people scratch themselves embarrassingly and roll around on plastic grass in pursuit of an odd-shaped ball to be the pastime of cave-dwellers, and could not understand why Rush enjoyed it, since he hardly falls into the category of troglodytes. But, I said to myself, to each his own: you watch the NFL, Rush, and I’ll watch Kung Fu Theater ( if I must watch TV) or listen to Classical Music.
I was saddened to hear of his foray into professional football, therefore, because it has become filled with even more despicable practices and characters than it was when I abandoned the thing 30 years ago. Still, there are probably good folks in the NFL — probably — as there are likely good folks somewhere (voiceless, no doubt) in the Democrat Party, the Republican Party (getting harder to find, though), and in the NBA (not very evident).
I was pleased to hear that Rush will NOT be associating himself with a sport that has allowed itself to be turned into the cultural equivalent of a gang-bang for dollars. A wise fellow once said, “By their deeds shall ye know them.” Stay away, Rush; they aren’t worth it.
I have three words relating to this blatant interference with interstate commerce: “The Hobbs Act”.
What does it take for citizens to have an easier time to remove state & local government officials when they chase after the luxuries of having professional sport franchises, and buildings, at the expense of the necessities. Such as making sure the police are paid, and that they are not out-gunned when taking on armed criminals, and so forth.
The average person does not have to react to the plans of the unhinged, but the average person can
be pro-active.
Another lesson: If a political party believe they have a right to dictate who should and should not legally purchase a sports franchise, then they should not be given the power to dictate who should and should not receive health care.
Rush should quietly and strongly file a multimillion dollar lawsuit against Rick Sanchez, his employer and all other persons who slandered him.
Then, Rush should get over his 12 year old boy love affair with Organized Football and recognize it for the corrupt business it is.
All thinking Americans should review their spending money on stupid, nonproductive activities that reward quasi criminal athletes, and instead, spend it enhancing their personal family lives and communities. Maybe donate time and money to abused animals.
Everyone needs to get a life for the short time we still have the liberty to enjoy one in this fine country.
This article would make sense if it wasn’t a group of 34 rich white conservative Republicans who told Limbaugh to take a hike.
91. blotto.
“DS: Typically you fall with those who abrogate the Constitution, our laws, and civility. You are a joke. By the way using the other moniker of Mr. Lucky is childish.”
I’ll say that both DS and I would bet the farm that we and not one and the same. Further, I will venture that many PJM commenters would take that bet as well. And my wife too.
Something is being missed here. From my point of view Limbaugh has been unfairly denied an opportunity because in large part he is a conservative commentator/entertainer. I have listened to his program many times and have found much agreement with his political commentary and enjoyed the entertainment aspects of his show. I think he provides insight and perspective that is valuable to current debate, while having the talent for making it funny and interesting at the same time. I would not say this about say, Olberman/Maddow, but then again there is valuable information and insights there as well too. It’s a different perspective. They are not that entertaining to me (not their intent?), there is too much scolding there. I doubt if two people ever agree completely on everything, much less samples from the wider population. Some ideas are valid, and therefore life sustaining, some ideas are not. But without this variation and tension, we would not have the life we have today. Humankind would stagnate. My opinion.
On the NFL, I could go white on you and mention the Manning brothers, Brett Farve, or go black and mention Mike Singletary, Tony Dungy, Corey Simon and J.C. Watts. What’s the point of that though? My impression of conservatism is that it is colorblind. Regardless of the thugs and criminals in the NFL, there are good people who participate in the league. Maybe the NFL is not for everyone. The thugs and criminals rise to a much much higher level of denial of participation than does Limbaugh; but then again I would come down on the side of free enterprise. And I would not deny Limbaugh participation in this case.
To me blotto, et al, you are not much different in principle from a vivo, Now and Then, jharp etc., or for that matter a Rev. Wright or a David Duke. You are making assumptions based on a worldview that appears to me to be quite narrow and inflexible.
The politics are different, the methods and results are the same.
94. Jay Lee,
That sounds like RINO talk to me.
I would like to hear an audio of Rush’s “supposed” comments…no such thing exists though…
Some are starting to back peddle on what he “actually” said….stupid racists. Jackson, Obama, Sharpton are the biggest darkest racists we have in the United States!!! And the football players are just dumb. It appears they believe any crap thrown at them. All brawn , no finesse,
NO brains.
Some on this post seem to have a case of the giggles because an American that stands up for what is right, has had a “right” taken from him with lies from the left. Disgusting.
Whether you like or dislike Rush, it doesn’t matter on this.
The truth is the truth, no matter who it comes from, and lie is still a lie… Say all the rude things you want to, it won’t change the facts that Rush did not say the things MSM etc., attribute to him..people have checked closely, they’re not out there.
Rush has become our Emmanuel Goldstein. Along with Dubya.
Conservatives AREN’T GOING TO DO SQUAT about the steady diet of opprobrium, double standards, or general sh*t sandwich that they eat every day in this country. There is no FIGHT left in our team. There is no limit to the crap we will take. We will not stand up and SAY something (without wringing our hands and apologizing afterwards)–let alone get up and DO something.
I’m becoming embarrassed to call myself conservative, not for philosophical reasons, of course, but because there is nobody with any brass balls on our side of the line of scrimmage. That nitwit Bush turned the other cheek so many times after being slapped silly that he no longer has to turn his head to look down at his arse. How did that work out for him, the GOP, and conservatives? Not too well, my pretties.
I have the WH on speed dial. I have my Congressman on speed dial. I have my Senators on speed dial. I live in CA and could easily give up, but instead I send them my “thoughts” regularly in the harshest of non-profane terms. My liberal acquaintances probably delete my e-mails without reading them anymore. I frankly don’t want them as friends if they are part of this movement that is destroying the country. If you are willing to sit back and take this all without making people “uncomfortable,” then screw you too. It drives me nuts when conservative talk show hosts don’t want to take the gloves off. It drives me nuts that GOP leaders are letting the people do all the fighting. It drives me nuts that they’re not flagpole sitting, hunger striking, ANYTHING to draw attention to the cause…to break through the MSM blackout.
Until we’re ready to fight, we deserve exactly what we’re getting: disrespect, disdain, and being ignored.
WE’RE PLAYING BY THE WRONG SET OF RULES, FOLKS.
The NFL is a private business and can confirm or deny partnership to preserve the financial health of the franchise.
Deal with it and don’t be so PC and thin-skinned about everything.
So when it is Rush, it is some “liberal conspiracy”, but when Mark Cuban (liberal) is told no by MLB because he is too controversial, NONE of you cared. Not ONE site brought it up. No one on the right was concerned about HIS “rights” being violated.
Right wing persecution complex hits an all time high…
Now and Then, #43. You are wrong, the quotes you list do matter to me. It matters to me that Rush is not afraid to take on the PC crowd, yourself included, who claim it is off limits to criticize a liberal black politician. You are obviously upset because you thought that electing a leftist black president would enable your leftist agenda to be implemented without opposition. But Rush is blowing your dreams up because he has the spine to oppose your wrongheaded notions even though you are using a black man as a shield. The fact that you took the time to search for quotes exposes your great fear of Rush. But, I remember the context of many of the quotes and recall that in many cases Rush was actually praising the people you claim he defamed. Your failure to pick up on this exposes the shallowness of your efforts. Criticizing the polices and statements of a black president is not racist. Referring to the blatant racism of a member of a racial minority is not racist. The fact that you try to twist statements into racial epitaphs regardless of their true meaning is proof that your goal is to cry bigotry, whether it exists or not. Thank God that Rush is here to call you and your ilk on it. You are right to be worried and afraid of Rush because he has the courage to tell the truth about your ideas, even when you try to hide behind claims of racism.
Move the loser Rams back to PC L.A.
MIDDLEMAN: LIke your name, middle of the road mediocre,average, weak,and ultimately the meat in a sandwich called “civil war”.No morals(of ANY kind) means no backbone. What are Boomer morals? The abolition of any morals except the pursuit of greed and power.No society can survive in a moral vacuum.
Business denied for political payback?
Slander by lies?
But, of course. It’s all good in:
BARACK OBAMA’S FAIRY PALACE
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/barack-obamas-fairy-palace
108 PDQUIG Right on brother!
The NFL is dead to me till Rush Limbaugh can buy a team. I wasn’t a big fan, but used to watch at least four games a season – which is about four more times a season than I watch most TV shows. Watched one two weeks ago.
No more.
Jim Irsay makes it clear – no conservatives need apply.
OK, Jim. This one-quarter Irish, one-half Italian conservative won’t apply.
Yours,
Tom DeGisi
I wonder if Roman Polanski would be denied NFL ownership?
THAT’S IT!! I’VE HAD IT!! I’m never going to watch professional sports AGAIN! Oh wait…I never did watch or follow professional sports. My bad.
I think the best real Rush was denied buying into the Rams is that it would have made for a tricky situation.
It’s probably a fair assesment that in today’s America an all-white football team would be frowned upon. In the past there were teams that stayed lily-white after the sport itself had been integrated. These teams refused black players because the owners or coaches were segregationists. The Washington Redskins (what a great team name for a racist owner) and the Boston Red Sox in baseball are examples of teams that kept their teams white years after the rest of their leagues had changed.
But if Rush bought into the St. Louis Rams, the team would probably have been all-white team not because Rush would fire all the black players, but because the black players would have refused to play for him.
Although if Rush had bought into the team it would have been great to see St. Louis play Philadelphia. Donovan McNabb would have had the best games of his career making Rush eat his words.
National Felons League
111. Truth Teller:
Context, eh? Well, rather than wade through that excuse, let me give you an easier assignment. Produce a quote where Obama used the word “apology” or “apologize” in a speech about America. Afraid of Rush? not even close. I fear no man, not even Ann Coulter. Limbaugh is nothing more than a spoiled little brat.
Meanwhile, here’s a video of the outrage of conservatives (just insert “Rush” wherever you hear “dip”)
http://current.com/items/91131560_worlds-angriest-dipper.htm
Who cares about Rush anyway? He has not ties to football. He’s never played, never coached, and by his past comments knows very little about the sport even from a fan perspective.
The only reason he was denied is because he makes a living saying stupid things. It would be a constant headache for the league everytime he opens his mouth.
As far as the ‘what if Sharpton, Jackson, bin Laden tried to buy a team’ argument; have they? No. So what the hell are you talking about?
Go ahead and boycott the NFL losers, no one cares. You wussies don’t probably watch anyhow. You are a very vocal, angry, and irrelevant minority in this country. You don’t have any power. You are not important. No one cares how you feel about it. You are a joke. Ha ha ha.
Go to the games and buy refreshments but not anything that has an NFL tag on it. These owners will get the message when it costs them money.
Unlike the imaginary world today’s so called “conservatives”(I call them something far more truthful-racist bigots) inhabit, the NFL is a business. The fans, players, and NFL that reject Rush Limbaugh don’t care if he is conservative because most, if not all, the owners probably are conservative. They are billionaires, how could they not be? However, players and fans particularly don’t like it when racist blowhards are put in control of things they like. For some reasons I just don’t think I could buy Cheerios if I knew their CEO was played songs like “Barack the Magic Negro” and didn’t mean it satirically.
Does no one remember when George Soros was on the short list to buy part or all of a baseball team a few years ago, and Republicans in Congress started talking about revoking the sports franchise’s anti-trust exemption if he did?
This isn’t the government stepping in to stop Rush Limbaugh from buying in to a team; this is the team and its owners, private citizens all, telling him to take a hike. Republicans were going to change the law to keep the oh-so-evil George “Old Scratch” Soros from investing in a sports team, but it’s an infringement on Rush’s free speech if what he says has consequences in the free market?
How do you walk straight with your head so turned around?
Now and When: Your point was ?? If someone states the truth it should bother us. Why? As a conservative we can hear the truth. Now and When You can’t handle the truth.
Liberals against Rush you say even with KEITH OLBERMAN coming out on Rush’s side
“There are now gonna be character tests for sports owners? There will only be three of them left. Unless they beat the Vikings Sunday as of next Thursday it will have been a full year since the Rams won a game. My God, if Limbaugh wants to buy them far be it for me to tell him he’s flushing his money down a rat hole.”
BWAAAA-AAA-AAA-WAAAAA . . . The ego has landed . . .BWAAA-A-AA-WAA-WWAA BWAAAAAAA . . bitch slapped . . . BWAAAA-AAA-AAA-WAAAAA . . .Football rejects Limbaugh . . .BWAAAA-AAA-AAA-WAAAAA
So the NFL is owned buy left leaning capitalist
/To the people saying Rush should sue so now you want the guberment to interfer with private business
You people embarrass me.
You as an American should care that there was such a stink raised aobut an potential owner of anything.
Not one of the MSM has come up with anything to back up their accusations of things that Rush was accused of saying. If some of you ever listened to Limbaugh you would realize how dumb you sound. This could make a heck of a law suit .
103. lolz:
This article would make sense if it wasn’t a group of 34 rich white conservative Republicans who told Limbaugh to take a hike.
It still makes sense. It’s not explicitly about gutlessness and surrender, but they’re a pretty loud subtext. And depend on it, there will be no effective — or even infinitesimally significant — boycott of the NFL by conservatives.
113. deguello,
It’s the meat that matters my misguided friend. We’re the majority in this land, and you just keep thinking we’re ‘weak’.
I don’t lack morals, I just don’t wear them on my sleeve like most of the bible thumper conservative charlatans and johnny-come-lately evangelicals who use overloaded moral codes and religion as ego-boosts to look down their noses at others.
This nation, this planet, is no longer yours, but then again it never was.
Now let’s get back to talking about how the NFL told fatty deaf Limbaugh to shove it.
The Official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley
Wise words from Rush’s call screener, Bo Snerdley.
I LISTENED TO RUSH THIS MORNING AND HE DID NOT MENTION THIS. IS IT TRUE HE IS MAKING 400 MILLION A YEAR/ THE MEGA MILLIONS LOTTO IS A 200 MILLION,BUY A TICKET TO WIN AND REMEMBER WHO REMINDED YOU ,WHEN YOU WIN. CHUCK@SOCALSK8ANDSURF.COM
#128 Now and Then:
“BWAAAA-AAA-AAA-WAAAAA . . . The ego has landed . . .BWAAA-A-AA-WAA-WWAA BWAAAAAAA . . bitch slapped . . . BWAAAA-AAA-AAA-WAAAAA . . .Football rejects Limbaugh . . .BWAAAA-AAA-AAA-WAAAAA”
If I can interrupt this peculiar little “sack-dance” of yours for a moment and drag you back to the point of the matter, both CNN and MSNBC have admitted on-air that they cannot independently verify that Rush Limbaugh said what they claimed he had said.
This is a very signal admission on the part of both networks, and will likely be a major part of Mr. Limbaugh’s civil case against them for the monetary damages he suffered resulting from their baseless slanders against his character.
Doubling down on stupid, ain’t a very good policy, but please don’t let me stop you.
You may now resume your celebratory activities,(although exactly WHAT you are so happy about, other than seeing Mr. limbaugh wrongfully harmed, escapes me).
Boycotting the NFL is not the cure. Write to all the companies that do business with the NFL and who air commercials during the games. Tell these companies that you and your friends will not be purchasing their products or services until the NFL changes its policy
The level of stupid here is amazing – a clown pretending to be a Eisenhower Conservative, PC idiots who favor hyperregulation of business in every other context suddenly deciding that an enterprise ought to have the right to exclude anyone it thinks will be bad for business, and simpletons who believe that individual wealth necessarily equates to conservatism.
Pitiful, just pitiful.
And while I was typing my comment, middleman demonstrates his complete lack of self awareness by flaunting his superior morals before referring to “fatty deaf Limbaugh.”
HA HA HA You guys are a laugh riot.
Watching the conservatives in this country running to support a man, whose only job is to rile you up and make money for himself, is the best show on earth.
As I read the posts here, I am struck by the name calling, ignorance and outright hate that spews forth from the minds of the Republican party. The conservative minority in the country is about to implode, and I like what I see.
Had I known that Rush would have been able to help the Democrats so much, I would have encouraged him a long time ago.
Please continue.
RUSH definitely has his non-fans. i.e., Jesses Jackson & Al Sharpton, these two jackass’s and others, all pure RACIST! There is a PRO side to this. JJ&AS, & others, have set themselves up for the wrath of Rush for perpetuity.
#9. John, 11. Inrptrn Handed you your a$$….he owns you!
#9. John….You must be a child and have no idea who Sen. Ted Kennedy was…You want the Heath Care Reform dedicated to him…Ted Kennedy, in Jul. 1969, caused the death of Mary Jo Kopechne due to his inaction..Ted Kennedy is a murder..And you want him moralized. You are an Idiot! NEWS FLASH: Ted Kennedy three weeks sober…finally, in a rehab that will help him achieve sobriety….way to go Teddy!!! #129. Adrian Back away from the Kool Aid…….
#132. arhooley What did you do to get that insight? Call Ms. Cleo? You’re so smart, I bet you know how to pick up a turd by the clean end….
Sue? . . . Lawsuit? . . . What about tort reform? . . . Oh what a tangled web
making fun of a person’s physical appearance is CHILDISH. Plus, Rush is not fat, seen him lately? Plus, what would it matter> I could give you quite a few about not only Obama, but Michelle, there’s a crapper load!!! However, there’s no need, all Obama has to do is point to any one in his cabinet and we have a “who’s a communist/socialist”, “you’re a racists”….conversation going.
When you can’t argue facts and prove them, some of you revert to neinerneinerneiner of grade school. Crap, try a conversation of the pros and cons. Perhpas it’s because y’all can’t? Childish name calling, typical of the uninformed, undereducated on the left. Yeah yeah, we know you have a PhD..blahblah…still undereducated in the real world.
The media is trying their best to back peddle on the Rush “said this” thing.
from #136
“Doubling down on stupid, ain’t a very good policy, but please don’t let me stop you.”
Now that was hilarious! Don’t expect N&T to listen, he/she is a bit to dense as proven by his/hers consistent thoughtless positions lacking any sort of logic.
#142 Now and Then:
“Sue? . . . Lawsuit? . . . What about tort reform? . . . Oh what a tangled web”
I realize that you now have a vested interest in arguing beside the point, since the media that informed of you of Limbaugh’s supposed racist statements has admitted that it cannot independently verify them, but it does you no good at all to keep posting here.
In addition to painting yourself as a vindictive and mean-spirited soul, rejoicing in the persecution of someone who did him no personal wrong, you now add to this the unflattering shade of being a fatuous buffoon, too proud to admit that you swallowed a load of bunk from trusting the meretricious media liars who used you like a truck-stop prostitute.
Of course, the possibility that you were both willing and eager to be so used has not been lost on anyone here, but still…one expects even the skankiest of whores to display SOME modicum of self-regard and at least have the decency and shame to find herself another truck-stop to ply her trade in.
This cute attempt at changing the subject to “tort reform” is truly nauseating, even by low Limbaughphobic standards.
#9 John
What a snotty small minded person you are. Just Like the asshats on CNN, ESPN, MSNBC, etc;. Besmirching another person’s name is really bad for business. It has and will backfire. Today Juan Williams, NPR, was told to “get back on the porch” by a black liberal talk show host. If that isn’t the epitomy of racism and ugly I don’t know what is. It’s one of the reasons I left the Dem Party. The other reason is people like you.
Well, CNN isn’t happy tonight. FOX ratings are over the top, theirs is in the toilet.
The fun part of this is the reaction to the made-up quotes attributed to Limbaugh. The reaction is “Yes, but he said *these* things, and they’re as bad.” This is followed by a list of quotes, similar to the one about Donovan McNabb, and the NFL-is-like-Crips-and-Bloods quote. The idea that these two quotes are the equivalent of apologizing for slavery or saying that James Earl Ray deserved a medal and was missed…well if you think the false quotes are the same as the real ones, I’ve got a bridge I want to sell you.
So what we get is bait-and-switch. False, outrageous quotes are used to derail Rush’s bid to buy the Rams. By the time the NFL Players’ Association gets its membership to oppose Rush on the basis of the bogus quotes, said quotes turn out to be false. They’re repeated endlessly, until Rush’s reputation among the NFL players is such that he couldn’t realistically own a team, then tepid and half-hearted not-quite-retractions are issued, followed by other quotes which are announced as “just as bad.” Note that there’s a lengthy paragraph of them, long enough that a lot of people will just take the word of the person writing “just as bad” and not bother to read through them, looking for something that fills that description. If they work it right, the news organizations and so forth who slandered Rush will probably get away with it. The slander rules in this country are so strict that you’d have to prove that they knew beyond a shadow of at doubt that the quotes were bogus, and intended to damage his reputation by repeating them. If they just repeated the quotes without checking to see whether they were false, even if they repeated them with the intent to damage his reputation, the fact that they *didn’t* check their facts by itself would disallow the slander suit. That’s if I understand slander law correctly; I’m not a lawyer. I’ve been told that slander is very hard to prove, though, even when you can prove that what someone says about you is false and damaging.
The lesson is not that if conservatives aren’t careful they will be tarred and feathered in the media. The lesson is that if you are conservative your behavior, whatever it is, will be defined as out of bounds.
None of the outraged liberals were less outraged once the fake quotes were discounted. The outrage comes first, because of conservatism, and the evidence will be created later.
Stop wasting time trying to disprove the charge and use the time to assault the Left.
I wrote a letter to the NFL yesterday that I will NEVER again purchase anything that is licensed by the NFL, I will hurt them where it really hurts…in their pockets. Rush, sue them all. Conservatives its time to stand up and be counted!!!!
#142 Now and Then:
Tort Reform refers to frivilous lawsuits lacking factual or legal basis filed by the Trial Lawyers who finance the Democrats. John Edwards is the poster lawyer for such litigation … becoming multimillionaires for such discredited legal concepts as forceps during birth cause cerebral palsy. As a result, doctors quit obstetrics in droves and medical costs skyrocketed.
An action for libel is an important legal redress for intentional or negligent harm to another based upon a spoken or written falsehood transmitted to another.
That will be $200.00 please for your legal education in a nutshell.
By the way, Letterman’s sexual harassment (categorized as exploitation of a subordinate) should be investigated by the EEOC with proper legal action following.
When I heard one of the so-called pundits say that the NFL wanted no part of controversy (i.e. Rush) I nearly fell out of my chair laughing! They want no part of controversy, but they continue to hire “rapists, wife-beaters” as Hawkins points out, and also druggies, players with connections to organized crime, alcohol abusers, drug/steroid abusers, firearms law violators, you name it. Oooh – we don’t want any controversy, we’re scared of a conservative owning a team. What an absolute crock. The hypocrisy of the left knows absolutely no bounds. It would be fine for a leftist like Ted Kennedy, who killed someone, to own a team, but no, we can’t have a conservative who’s never killed anyone own a team; that’s too controversial. Not to worry folks – the Thought Police are on the job!
One redeeming thing out of all this has been that at least a few black commentators have had the courage to admit that the black players who said they would never play for Rush were disingenuous liars.
Did I miss it or was PETA around when Vick returned? I didn’t ever see any coverage of it. Have Vick & PETA kissed & made up? Can anyone ever see a leftard group like PETA kissing & making up with a CONSERVATIVE? Not gonna happen.
Limbaugh invented a “racial component” to Iraq war vet Paul Hackett’s decision to withdraw from a Democratic primary campaign for U.S. Senate in Ohio. Yep, after Hackett’s departure from the race against then-Rep. Sherrod Brown, Rush said, “And don’t forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There’s a racial component here, too.” In fact, Brown is white.” (C&L)
Here’s what I love about this. Limbaugh says a thousand racist things and two of them can’t be immediately corroborated, so you claim that negates that other 998 things that he can’t deny. And no one here can be sure the original references to James Earl Ray and slavey won’t be unearthed.
This is why conservatives rather bitch and moan about someone flying the flag upside down rather than assure proper medical care for vets. Why they’re more in favor of flag pins than the GI Bill. They’re all symbol and no conviction. All talk and no action. Weak, arbitrary and afraid to do what’s necessary to make this country great again. And Rush the Butt Pimple Deferment Boy is your poster child.
By all means, attack you president for trying to secure the Olympics and its financial windfall for America, but defend the privileged entitlement of a racist junkie to buy a football team for his amusement.
2010? Fat chance. You’ll be lucky to win Mississippi at this rate.
When Hollywood, the NFL, and the mainstream media conclude that conservatives aren’t suckers who will still hand them money even as they’re insulted, maybe the insults will stop.
You know who immediately came to mind? The people of western Pennsylvania. Candidate Obama described them as bitter and clinging to their guns, religion and antipathy towards “people who aren’t like them.” John Murtha came right out and called them racists. And yet, when push came to shove, western PA went for both. Apparently there are people you just can’t insult.
151. Exactly!:
“An action for libel is an important legal redress for intentional or negligent harm to another based upon a spoken or written falsehood transmitted to another.”
Before you submit any invoices, I suggest you revisit you scholarship on that one. While you’re’ at it, run these through your helluva guy filter:
LIMBAUGH: “And it was only 4,000 votes that–had they gone another way in Chicago–Richard Nixon would have been elected in 1960.” (TV show, 4/28/94)
REALITY: Kennedy won the 1960 election with 303 electoral votes to 219 for Nixon. Without Illinois’ 27 electoral votes, Kennedy would still have won, 276-246.
LIMBAUGH: On how to stop riots: “Richard Daley, in 1968, in the Democratic National Convention, issued an order–where there were rumors of riots–he issued a shoot-to-kill order. And there were no riots and there was no civil disobedience and no shots were fired and nobody was hurt. And that’s what ought to happen.” (TV show, 6/10/93)
REALITY: Mayor Daley’s shoot-to-kill order was issued not at the Democratic Convention, but following the April 4, 1968 Martin Luther King assassination. Daley wasn’t reacting to “rumors of riots” since riots had already broken out. The shoot-to-kill order hardly put an end to unrest–since four months after Daley’s order, protestors flocked to Chicago’s Democratic Convention and engaged in riotous civil disobedience. Protesters chanted, “The whole world is watching.” Except for Rush Limbaugh.
LIMBAUGH: In an attack on Spike Lee, director of Malcolm X, for being fast and loose with the facts, Limbaugh introduced a video clip of Malcolm X’s “daughter named Betty Shabazz.” (TV show, 11/17/92)
REALITY: Betty Shabazz is Malcolm X’s widow.
LIMBAUGH: “Those gas lines were a direct result of the foreign oil powers playing tough with us because they didn’t fear Jimmy Carter.” (Told You So, p. 112)
REALITY: The first–and most serious–gas lines occurred in late 1973/early 1974, during the administration of Limbaugh hero Richard Nixon.
LIMBAUGH: On Iran-Contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh: “This Walsh story basically is, we just spent seven years and $40 million looking for any criminal activity on the part of anybody in the Reagan administration, and guess what? We couldn’t find any. These guys didn’t do anything, but we wish they had so that we could nail them. So instead,we’re just going to say, ‘Gosh, these are rotten guys.’ They have absolutely no evidence. There is not one indictment. There is not one charge.” (TV show, 1/19/94)
REALITY: Walsh won indictments against 14 people in connection with the Iran-Contra scandal including leading Reagan administration officials like former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and former national security advisers Robert McFarlane and John Poindexter. Of the 14, 11 were convicted or pleaded guilty. (Two convictions were later overturned on technicalities–including that of occasional Limbaugh substitute Oliver North.)
LIMBAUGH: Explaining why the Democrats wanted to “sabotage” President Bush with the 1990 budget deal: “Now, here is my point. In 1990, George Bush was president and was enjoying a 90 percent plus approval rating on the strength of our victories in the Persian Gulf War and Cold War.” (ToldYou So, p. 304)
REALITY: In October 1990, when the budget deal was concluded the Gulf War had not yet been fought.
LIMBAUGH: On the Gulf War: “Everybody in the world was aligned with the United States except who? The United States Congress.” (TV show, 4/18/94)
REALITY: Both houses of Congress voted to authorize the U.S. to use force against Iraq.
Yeah, that Rush. He’s a true red blooded American hero.
104. Mr Lucky:
“To me blotto, et al, you are not much different in principle from a vivo, Now and Then, jharp etc., or for that matter a Rev. Wright or a David Duke. You are making assumptions based on a worldview that appears to me to be quite narrow and inflexible.”
Smearing, lying, hallucinating. Typical right-wing scum, Mr Lucky.
@83.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePbP2i2adAQ
“Halfrican-American”
“Because his father was black”
“Feminazis”
Comparing the Democrats to Al Qaeda. And of course that whole rant on feminism…and more slandering on women with that cat story. Barrack The Magic Negro…Darfur and the black votes bit…
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Yeah, he’s never said anything remotely racist or sexist in his life.
Then of course…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/13/limbaugh-somali-pirates-l_n_186387.html
It goes on and on, these are just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. Rush Limbaugh is an embarrassment and a cancer to any self-respecting fiscal conservative.
157 NoisyPiper:
The Worst of Rush Limbaugh. Well, maybe not the worst, but certainly the essence. Now why in the world would anybody choose not to go into business with such a man?
Who up there in the thread wants to to take this one from NoisyPiper? Anybody? How about you, Hawkins. You seem pretty sure of yourself . . . ” . . . merely being a famous conservative makes you too much of a “racist” to own part of a football team.”
Actually, merely being a famous racist makes you too much of a conservative to own part of a football team.
Folks, you don’t have a leg to stand on – morally, legally, socially. And the rest of us out here (ie most of America) are absolutely loving every minute of Rush getting his mouth washed out with soap.
The guy’s a bomb thrower, a polemicist. He’s very good at it. But it comes with a cost. Conservatives have never been very tuned into the concept of consequences or accountability. Perhaps this will educate you.
Nice work, NoisyPiper.
156. vivo.
104. Mr Lucky:
“To me blotto, et al, you are not much different in principle from a vivo, Now and Then, jharp etc., or for that matter a Rev. Wright or a David Duke. You are making assumptions based on a worldview that appears to me to be quite narrow and inflexible.”
“Smearing, lying, hallucinating. Typical right-wing scum, Mr Lucky.”
Apologies vivo. Comparing you in principle to Now and Then, jharp etc., and Rev. Wright was unfair. David Duke was gratuitous, akin to calling some a racist. My mistake.
How can there be “smearing, lying, hallucinating” in a world determined with relative moral values?
And once again, disagreement with a modern liberal (you are, aren’t you?) is equated with being “typical right-wing scum”.
Take it easy vivo, just poking a little fun and games sarcasm at you, right?
141. TrustNoOne:
” I bet you know how to pick up a turd by the clean end….”
Right Wing Scat Fascinatin Alert – Right on Cue! Extra points for the quintessential use of “turd”
Well done, oh repressed one. Care to get diapered? I know a senator in Louisiana who can set you up.
#153 Now and Then:
“Here’s what I love about this. Limbaugh says a thousand racist things and two of them can’t be immediately corroborated, so you claim that negates that other 998 things that he can’t deny.”
REALITY: CNN and MSNBC didn’t report that Limbaugh had said the 998 other things. They DID report that he said two things that they now admit cannot be independently verified.
REALITY: It is on the basis of what they falsely reported he said, and NOT anything else he may have said, that his slander case is going to be adjudicated.
REALITY: MSNBC AND CNN are going to settle this out of court with Mr. Limbaugh.
REALITY: Your conduct here, after the news of the admissions of CNN and MSNBC, is exactly why this settlement will likely involve the payment of a most handsome sum of money.
Lawyer’s motto:
When the Facts are against you argue the Law
When the Law is against you, argue the facts
When BOTH are against you, call the other side names.
You may think you’re making some sort of progress with your behavior, but you’re not. Your posts are evidence of an unbalanced mind given license by a deliberate mendacious media character assassination, to attack a man who has done you no personal wrong.
CNN and MSNBC must be made to pay for the malicious rantings of the likes of you that they precipitated by their misdeeds.
As a Black person (and former Democrat of more than 25 years), I started listening to Rush Limbaugh over a one year ago. RUSH LIMBAUGH IS NOT A RACIST.
Black Democratic leaders are mad at him because Rush Limbaugh calls them out for hurting, not helping, the Black community. Who has been in charge of the inner cities of America for over 20 years? The Democrats. Have they gotten better? No.
I live in the Cleveland area, which is heavily controlled by Democrats, and the inner city is a mess. The schools are lousy. People are poorer than ever. And jobs are not being created.
Do Black people vote the Democrats out of office who have been managing the city for years? No. Because they’ve been brainwashed into thinking that Republicans (and conservatives) are the reason for their dire situation. This doesn’t make any sense at all. Democrats have been running these cities. They are the ones who should be held responsible for the problems. Look at the city of Chicago where we just saw video of a young African-American teenager being beaten to death in the streets. This area is dominated by Democrats!
Thus, if more Black people really listened to Rush Limbaugh, he would make a whole lot of sense to them and thus ruin the deceitful domination that Democrats have had over the Black community for decades. The Democrats can’t let this happen if they are going to stay in charge, so they do whatever they have to do in order to keep people away from Rush by labeling him a racist. They use their puppets, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, to help do the dirty work.
If more Black people listened to Rush Limbaugh, more of them would vote conservative because conservatism does make sense. Conservatism is more in line with traditional Black family values than liberalism.
The real racists in this whole matter are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who are political pimps assigned to pimp the Black community.
I hope that Rush sues the crap out of all of them and makes them all publicly apologize for the downright lies that they spread.
Moreover, I hope that they catch who the original blogger was that started the whole thing. The last I heard, it has been traced to a law firm computer in New York. This same computer is linked to lies about conservative Mark Levin, too. I’d love to see the whole thing blow into something bigger that brings a lot of these people down.
If you think Limbaugh is an idle case, then you need to read that new book A Time To Stand by Oliver. If they can destroy Limbaugh then they can eventually come after you.
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage’
Just read the book & see how modern day Americans are the same type of Americans that stood up to King George III. The book could be your town cause the Lefist are just getting started. It’s insightful & based in part on real Americans & real events. Limbaugh’s fight is our fight.
http://www.booksbyoliver.com
It seems to me that all the negative vibes this blowhard (Rush Hudson Limbaugh A.KA. Jeff Christie) has been spewing over these many years has come back to blow back on his face (A classic “Blow Back”). He always tries to give off the airs that he can have anything he wants but as we all witness those with more money and more influence tossed him aside like sack of potatoes and the ultimate insult was that it was done in public (money don’t buy you everything butterball).
Now of course he blames everyone else (Michael J. Fox, Perez Hilton, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Sonia Sotomayor, Hillary Clinton, Olympia Snowe, ESPN, NFL, the media, basically people of color, the handicapped, women and gays) when of course all you have to do is listen to his show and plainly hear his daily prejudices filled sermons. So NFL, I salute you decision, job well done. And to the whaling cry baby perched on his self made pedestal, quit your whining it was your own fault. Don’t we all feel better?
#43. Now and Then(Atheists) You are begrudging Rush the First Amendment. Just like your name, that’s how often you use your brain – Now’n Then.
150. Someonesmom:
I wrote a letter to the NFL yesterday that I will NEVER again purchase anything that is licensed by the NFL, I will hurt them where it really hurts…in their pockets. Rush, sue them all. Conservatives its time to stand up and be counted!!!!
Wow, a real Rosa Parks.
Rush Limbaugh: We need him to continuously remind us to ‘stay the course’; no matter the adversity. Should we ever give in, just order your Rosette Stone Course. And hope learning Chinese and Muslim-Speak, isn’t so hard. Bow your heads.
Ted Kennedy: Three weeks Sober. Maybe, this time he can achieve sobriety.
Michael Jackson: Oh yeah! Janet & 2 of your brothers hired their own lawyers to ensure they get their full share. No mention of the kids. They just trying to keep it real, Yo.
160. Now and Then.
“Well done, oh repressed one. Care to get diapered? I know a senator in Louisiana who can set you up.”
Personal experience?
Yet if Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, or any of the other race hustlers in America who like to exploit the issue for their own gain were to want to buy into the NFL, do you think it would be controversial?
Dumb beyond belief. Nothing like this has happened, nor will it. The only honest answer to this absurd question is “who knows?”. Idiots like you, apparently, certainly would think it controversial obviously…As for poor Rush Limbaugh, it was members of the NFL that declined to have him, don’t blame the left. If you want, go out and picket the NFL. But you wont’, you coward. You might as well picket NASCAR, you won’t do it because you’re afraid you’ll damage you cause.
#162. TOhio: Nice Read!!! Thanks for sharing a different perspective. I’m with you, I would like to see more people give Rush a chance and a listen.
President Barack Obama: Foreplay: Brace yourself, America!!!
161. Bilgeman:
“REALITY: CNN and MSNBC didn’t report that Limbaugh had said the 998 other things. They DID report that he said two things that they now admit cannot be independently verified.. . . It is on the basis of what they falsely reported he said, and NOT anything else he may have said, that his slander case is going to be adjudicated.
Here’s your problem. Rush has to show damages. What are they? Are you saying you can prove that the buyers’ group ousted Rush based on what CNN said? Besides, it’s a very dangerous precedent for the likes of Fox News – talk about vulnerable. Absent that, are you suggesting some general defamation or loss of reputation (god, I could barely even type that). Good luck with those. Rush may file just for the grandstanding of it all, but it’s going nowhere.
Like Paul said up there in #164 – “Money don’t buy you everything butterball.”
Partial list of Limbaugh Racism:
–>Arguing during the 2008 campaign that no one is permitted to criticize Barack Obama: “You can’t criticize the little black man-child. You just can’t do it, ’cause it’s just not right. It’s not fair. He’s such a victim.”
–>“We are being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father was black, because this is the first black president.”
–>Reacting to a report of black students assaulting a white student on a bus (an incident that police determined was not racially motivated), Limbaugh brought in Barack Obama: “In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, ‘right on, right on, right on.’”
–>On learning from a caller to his show that St. Louis was extending a light rail system into East St. Louis–a community of some 40,000 residents, almost all of whom are black (radio, 6/27/94): “They got a light rail system to East St. Louis where nobody goes?”
–>”Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.” Limbaugh (10/14/09) admitted making this remark, but claimed it was a response to the actions of one player who was penalized for taunting an opponent. Limbaugh admitted that his language “makes it look racial, the way I chose to describe it. I could have perhaps chosen a different term.”
** Limbaugh praised former segregationist Sen. Strom Thurmond for calling a gay soldier “not normal”: “He’s not encumbered by being politically correct…. If you want to know what America used to be–and a lot of people wish it still were–then you listen to Strom Thurmond.” (TV show, 9/1/93, transcript archived on Nexis) In the America that “used to be,” Thurmond was one of the country’s leading racists, running for president in 1948 on the Dixiecrat ticket, with a platform that opposed federal anti-lynching laws and boasted the slogan, “Segregation Forever!”
** In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: “Spike, if you’re going to do that, let’s complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out.”
Limbaugh admitted to Newsday’s Richard Gehr (10/8/90) that as a DJ in Pittsburgh in the 1970s he had once dismissed a black caller by saying, “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
** Discussing a Chicago inner-city schoolteacher punished for using a math question that focused on the price of prostitution and cocaine habits, Limbaugh suggested that the teacher should be credited for “understanding the culture these kids come from.” The math question began: “Rufus is pimping three girls.” (TV show, 5/24/94; transcript archived on Nexis)
now&then: tool. always ready with the prepared quotes from CAP or MM. And I will never let PJM forget what you said about Beck’s child. You are primitive, gutless and a weasel. Nothing you say is your own. It is all cut and paste from you donor website(s).
And Mr. lucky: The only reason you, moho, DS et al have anything to say is because the MSM holds conservatives to a higher standard than libs, which in actuality the left has no standards-witness the dialogue you guys post here. Furthermore if it weren’t for your 527s none of you would have anything to say since you cannot think for yourselves, which again is because the MSM speaks for you and you end up repeating what they say.
#171 Now and Then:
“Rush has to show damages. What are they?”
Well, here’s a good place to start from Forbes Magazine’s annual report of NFL franchise valuations:
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/30/06nfl_St-Louis-Rams_307693.html
The Rams, (20th most valuable team in the league), are worth north of 840 million, and last year posted an operating income of more than 33 million dollars.
Assuming Mr. limbaugh had not been dropped from the potential ownership syndicate on the basis of the changed negative business environment generated by these false reports, it would be reasonable that he be entitled to compensation at whatever percentage share of ownership benefit he had prior been asked for and agreed to.
Now since NFL Commissioner Goodel saw fit to open his soup cooler from his position as “Voice of the NFL”, Mr. Limbaugh might also be entitled to some punitive damages from the NFL Properties not-so-little honey pot.
If you look at the pie chart, you’ll see that 65% of the Rams’ worth, over $500 million, comes from the “Sports” segment, which is explained, near as I can tell, as it’s grubstake in the NFL’s revenue-sharing scheme.
These ain’t numbers to be sneezed ar, ace.
“Are you saying you can prove that the buyers’ group ousted Rush based on what CNN said? ”
I think that has already been proven. Only a malignant Limbaughphobe like yourself could ascribe the decision to any other reason.
Which is why if Rush takes them behind the woodshed, they’ll purge the offending editors, reporters and anchors, and offer him an undisclosed heap of money to settle it out of court.
You might close your eyes to it, but the shit-eating look on Rick Sanchez’s face in his correction clip indicates to me that he at least knows that there’s going to be some far more unpleasant consequences to face from this.
See, once he retains counsel and files for damages with a court, these decisions then get made by CNN and MSNBC’s, (among others’), liability insurance carriers…not the glazed-eye, slack-jawed moonbats who got them into this mess.
“Good luck with those. Rush may file just for the grandstanding of it all, but it’s going nowhere.”
It’s hard to say what Rush will do, he’s a remarkably thick-skinned fellow, but this was personally damaging AND it was deliberately false, so I don’t think he can afford to let it stand.
That, and sticking it good and hard to a few Leftist propaganda organs would just be too good an opportunity to pass up.
Bilgeman. LOL Thank you for that eloquent argument for Affirmative Action [for fat stupid white drug addicts].
I cannot believe what is happening to this country. I see a map of America split straight down the middle as a house divided among itself. I see a mass of people who all want to have their own way. The straight, the gay, the conservative and liberal. I see them all making up their own rules by the day. Few of them want to abide by the Word of God. I see all of us deteriorating in some fashion and we’re beginning to reap what’s been sewn into the colorful fabric of these United States. This is not to say that some of what’s been sewn was good. But we have all sinned and few are willing to repent or even say “I’m sorry.” Seems too many have forgotten why God has given us such a beautiful land. I have longed for the day when we as Americans decided to come together. I witnessed it somewhat on September 11, 2001. I shall continue to pray for these United States of America which is currently everything but united today!
They all know Rush has their number.
National Felons League.
173. blotto:
“I will never let PJM forget what you said about Beck’s child.”
And what did I say about Beck’s child? Please, quote me.
Now, now, Now and Then, this is a place for non-ignorant, adult-like speech. A flaming Liberal like yourself should use some restraint and actually listen to the show in context. Otherwise, brush up on some satire. You could listen to the real “hate-mongers” on those other networks and Air [Un]America and their controversial speech is okay, but not Rush Limbaugh’s? Your fence-stratling and utter hypocritical sense of humor is such a put-off. Grow up, plz; you’ll be better for it.
this is a place for non-ignorant, adult-like speech.
LOL…you’re absolutely not-wrong and totally similar-to-correct.
180. Mr. Outside:
“A flaming Liberal like yourself should use some restraint and actually listen to the show in context.”
I listen to it everyday.
“Air [Un]America and their controversial speech is okay.”
I didn’t realize that Air America is still on.
So, what now?
Get a Whitey! Start with Limbaugh!
Get a Whitey Conservative! If that derogatory racist slur came from a Caucasian, it would be chalked up to yet another effort of White people to stoke racial tensions in America.
However, the charge emanates from none other than Deneen Borelli of Project 21, the rare bird, conservative national Black leadership network.
In an article published on AmericanConservativeDaily.com referring to the hatchet job perpetrated on Rush Limbaugh and his quest to become part owner of the St. Louis Rams, the statement included the bodacious accusation: “The left-wing jihad against Rush Limbaugh is un-fair and un-American. Rush is being targeted simply because he is a conservative and a leading critic of President Obama’s wealth redistribution policies.”
Borelli specifically cited the “race card duo,” the two reverends, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson: “Whipping up unjustified black anger is their specialty. Frankly, I see their effort as ‘get whitie’–an inherent racist act:” http://bit.ly/2TcXRv
Touche’, halleluja, and amen!
Needless to say, defenders of the race-card dynamic duo leapt to their defense, calling Borelli a “Creole Princess” trotted out to dump on Blacks.
That makes as much sense as accusing Limbaugh of racism.
After 20+ years of listening to Rush off and on I can attest that the man is indeed a sometimes obnoxious, conservative dogmatist and a super-rich conservative blowhard.
Despite his many personal faults, he’s a generous, patriotic American who is about as racist as Billy and Franklin Graham.
Borelli’s daring to speak the truth is less a testimonial to Rush than to the validity and hope of nascent Black conservatism.
See Deneen’s dynamic, rockin’ speech at the September 12th taxpayer revolt march on Washington here: http://bit.ly/mqgtu.
Get a Whitey Queen!: Chosen Homecoming queen against all odds at traditionally Black Hampton University in Virginia, Miss Nikole Churchill discovered that diversity is a one-way street.
Churchill immediately encountered “closed minds” who opposed her win and in a letter to President Obama asked him to intervene to open those minds.
Said one of the disgruntled, ”Black or white, this young lady is not qualified to be the face of Hampton University as she is not in tune with the wants, needs, and desires of the student body at large.”
Another opined, “She is a transfer student who attends an HU satellite campus. She has never lived in a dorm, eaten in the cafe, or spent time in the Student Center.”
I’m so dumb that I wasn’t even aware that not living in a dorm and not eating in a student cafeteria were disqualifications for homecoming queen.
Stupid me! I always thought that it was how foxy a queen nominee looked but maybe that “face of Hampton University” comment was a reference to the melanin in that face?
Oh, by the way, Ms. Churchill is a White girl.
The poor thing . . .
(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)
159. Mr Lucky:
“Take it easy vivo, just poking a little fun and games sarcasm at you, right?”
Should I believe you? I’ll remember this next time I read one of yours.
Rush has said nothing wrong. I’ve read the remarks, nothing but the truth…so?
If the truth is racists, then most of the world is racists. I do not understand what is wrong with the truth. Why would it be considered racial?
Obama was a black child and a black president..so? He is touted daily as the “first black president” by every news source out there…
I don’t care what color the man is , I hope his policies fail, or at least curtailed. If Obama had our best interest in mind, I would support him 100%, even he was plaid..
.Racial is Rev Wright, Jackson, sharpton etc (Lou wanna), all Obama’s buds.
NFL Vick killed dogs, living breathing things with his hands. The dog did nothing wrong. He caused living breathing things to suffer tremendously, time and time again. Yet the NFL took this man in again. Hey, McNabb and Obama are friends, maybe that is where all this started..
“Rufus is pimping three girls.” ha, probably right.
Now..was Rufus black, white, latino? NO ONE has said and that could make a difference on price…I do not understand why it is “racial’..
.There are few blacks where we live. We do have Bloods and Crips. They are latino (mexican) and Tongan….NOT black.
I am confused. To what ‘double standard’ are you referring to? As I recall, when George Soros tried to invest in the Washington Nationals not only did folks with a rightward bent get all in a tizzy, but Republican congressmen threatened legislative action against Major League Baseball.
“It’s not necessarily smart business sense to have anybody who is so polarizing in the political world,” Rep. John E. Sweeney (R-N.Y.) said. “That goes for anybody, but especially as it relates to Major League Baseball because it’s one of the few businesses that get incredibly special treatment from Congress and the federal government.”(Soros’s Nats Bid Irks Republicans; Thomas Heath, The Washington Post, Tuesday, June 28, 2005)
The fact that the NFL’s issues with Rush Limbaugh have been voiced by people from within the organization (players, the commissioner, et. al.) (as opposed to Republican congressmen) makes their concerns valid. People within the NFL have the right to make such decisions, whether or not you agree with them.
However, Republicans always insist on being intrusive and invasive when it suits them, and hysterical about anything that is either inconsistent with their ‘values’ or will (heaven forfend!) benefit someone other than themselves. Thus when people such as the NFL commissioner express concerns about someone as polarizing as Rush Limbaugh becoming a major investor in the NFL, it’s some sort of HUGE TRAVESTY AGAINST (2% of) AMERICA. Yet when George Soros tries to invest in the Washington Nationals, conservatives feel so wronged and slighted that their congresspeople issue legislative threats to Major League Baseball.
I was under the impression that conservatives believed in property rights, the inviolability of the free market, and all that. It is alright for conservatives to feel all threatened by the decision of an organization to deny someone an opportunity to become an investor, calling for boycotts, etc. However, it seems a bit hypocritical to be lecturing the NFL on its’ internal choices when you have threatened LEGISLATION against George Soros’ investorship in the Washington Nationals for the exact reasons the NFL has cited in their dispute with Limbaugh. One would think people who are so pro-market would accept that private entities such as the NFL have the right to carry out their business as they see fit. Sadly, that couldn’t be further from the truth.
If conservatives really were pro-liberty and fiscally conservative and all that, it seems to me that they would not legislate against a sports league for allowing a law-abiding American citizen to invest in it, nor would they disrespect the NFL’s ability to make internal decisions. Instead, conservatives are for ‘liberty’, ‘patriotism’, ‘the market’,etc only when those things apply to them and those they identify with; they are to be denied to everyone else.
I’ve been sitting here for a long time, reading all of the comments. This is the conclusion to which, after very carefully reading ALL that’s been said,that I’ve come to:
The NFL seems to be the home of a bunch of nasties, murderers, rapists,and the BIG animal killer/abuser Michael Vick. JACKASSES all!! It seems to me that this franchise WOULDN’T be a good purchase for ANYONE, ANYBODY, Limbaugh included.
#186 puzzled:
“Yet when George Soros tries to invest in the Washington Nationals, conservatives feel so wronged and slighted that their congresspeople issue legislative threats to Major League Baseball.”
You’re right. It was wrong and stupid of Congress to try barring Soros from throwing his money away on the Nationals, just as it’s wrong for anybody to try stopping Limbaugh from throwing his money away on the Rams.
Your claims notwithstanding, the true conservative approach is to let both men, if they have the wherewithal, throw away their money down whatever hole and with wahtever size shovel they wish.
It may have escaped your notice, but there has been something of a falling-out between conservatives and Republicans lately.
This is one of the reasons why.
I hate Soros’ political guts and heartily wish he’d go back where he came from, but I wouldn’t block him from buying a piece of the Nats.
In fact, I’d encourage it…it might give nim a pastime other than meddling in politics.
Puzzled. These people aren’t conservatives. They’re frightened gullible power worshipers. You could argue with a conservative, because they actually had positions, and they maintained those positions with integrity. You could disagree with them, but you couldn’t accuse them of being inconsistent. These people are both allergic to consistency and reasoning of any kind. Their only core value is “its right when I do it”.
Reading all this, something strikes me. As a black Christian, I can see why a lot of people get offended by Rush.
Now, let’s be straight here — on the one hand, the idea that an agreed-upon financial deal can be canceled due to media pressure and governmental action or disapproval is BAD. If it can happen to Rush, it could happen to a liberal. Or libertarian. Or whomever you support. I think if he had the money he should be able to buy a part of the team.
On the other hand, Rush has said some things on the radio I’ve heard that are — and this is key — not in and of themselves “racist” , but are used to forward many people’s own racist beliefs.
A lot of conservatives are just that — they want things their way , the old way, never mind that the world is completetly different now. There are people still alive who grew up in a time when black people were … less than citizens. And there are some, probably, that ARE very racist, and some of what Rush says makes them feel like they are right.
The bottom line is that most black people feel Rush is “not in their corner”. Most of the media has pinned him down , and if he wants to be an entertainer and say offensive things , we all pay a price for that. While I don’t think the way things were handled was .. appropriate , I think that arguing about it won’t get you a better understanding.
I’m not in a boycott or an organized sort of thing. I just identify with Rush Limbaugh. I take it personally when steroid pumped bukkocks without redeeming social value join in on the antiAmrican antifreedom censorship bandwagon that pushes me too the back of the bus. No doubt these NFL Players who started this fuss scaring wtheir witless servile owners and commissioners into submission enjoy being taken off the hook for it by the media and bloggers.
Not me. I give discredit where discredit is due.
Wonder if the players union thoyught I’d separate from Rush if they maligned and blackballed him. Opposite result you steroid enhanced E.D. remedy peddlers. Suddenly Rush’s jokes are funnier, his wit and insight keener than ever before. That old jacket never seemed so fine until some ball bumbling fumble fingered overgrown steroid junkie tried to pull my excellent lifegiving luxurious coat off my back. I’m not even a true conservative. I’m a Christian. There is no Christian political movement so I picked the way way way lesser of two evils, the conservatives of whom Rush is no doubt chief. I’m moving in his tribe. He is chief. Belittle Rush, belittle me. But don’t expect me to have anything to do with you as I am not a glutton for punishment. Like I said, it’s not a boycott, nothing organized, just a natural and permanent rewaction. I listen to Rush a lot and he loves the NFL and has not to my knowledgew promoted any retribution from his loyaller than ever tribe. He has indicated he feels owed an apology from the NFL. That would be nice forf him. The slight I feel is permanently a hurt and an open sore that won’t heal. Thank God for basketball and baseball, or are they next to prove their burning desire to destroy freedom and prosperity in America is worth maligning Rush and his tribe. Honestly I never knew I cared so much for Rush until a semiAmerican symbol like the NFL attacked him. My sainted mother now with the lord, now there was a Rush Limbaugh devotee. She knew how to tune in to crackly late night Rush re-broadcasts from faraway cities when she visited and so kept pushing Rush on me. The NFL honestly expects me to tune in again. The yule log may vaporize my NFL team flags this year, along with License plate inserts(Cowboys) and the dog will feed from an Oakland Raiders plate.
Walmart needs to staRT CARRYING SOME rUSH lIMBAUGH MERCHANDISE SO i CAN GET RID OF MY sAINTS HOLOGRAPHIC THERMA
The NFL decides who becomes an owner not the other way around.
All this blowhard (Rush Hudson Limbaugh A.KA. Jeff Christie) has to offer is his money and his opinions, (which in my opinion are on the fringes of racism, one mans opinion). There are many more groups biding for the Rams, not just his group. Lets face it there are more men with money (Marshall Faulk) that will gladly fill the slot and the Rams will win or lose depending on how well they work as a team and not on whether or not Rush is an owner.
As for Vick, well he is a player (he has talent not like you, Rush or I, unless you are a NFL player?) and he served his time and the NFL decided we live in the land of second chances, so why not (I personally don’t like it but, oh well). Life has never been fair (NEWS FLASH!)
Now as to the “Free Speech” argument, I guess many of you like myself heard Rush on Thursday “Almost in tears”, priceless. But the last couple of days he now is in his normal ranting and will continue until someone surpasses him, “Free Speech” continues, so what is being stifled, it simply is not true, of course, you may not have a radio, so you might want to get one.
http://www.chasingevil.org/2009/10/rush-limbaugh-in-his-own-words.html
PS – I am sure someone is working to put the tapes together maybe all you subscribers can help, since you are all about getting to the truth?
PPS- Beauty Pageant Judge – Now I understand why he lost the weight, to find a new wife, creepy.
There is a lot of talk here, everywhere, about the political motives behind Rush getting shut out of the NFL deal. What about all the other hundreds of people over the years who have tried to buy a piece of the NFL and weren’t allowed? I don’t remember anyone crying about any of those people. Nobody sued.
The NFL has always and forever been about one thing and one thing only: money. The ONLY factor that impacts decisions about ANYTHING is how much money it will make. And apparently, for whatever reason, the higher-ups in the NFL decided they wouldn’t make as much money if Rush Limbaugh was in the club. So they said no.
This isn’t about bashing conservatives, or Obama taking over the NFL. It’s not about a vast left-wing conspiracy to stifle the righteous conservative agenda and create a socialist dictatorship of race warriors.
It’s about a bunch of extremely wealthy people doing what they do: getting richer. And shooting down anyone who they see as standing in the way of that.
However, Republicans always insist on being intrusive and invasive when it suits them, and hysterical about anything that is either inconsistent with their ‘values’ or will (heaven forfend!) benefit someone other than themselves. Thus when people such as the NFL commissioner express concerns about someone as polarizing as Rush Limbaugh becoming a major investor in the NFL, it’s some sort of HUGE TRAVESTY AGAINST (2% of) AMERICA. Yet when George Soros tries to invest in the Washington Nationals, conservatives feel so wronged and slighted that their congresspeople issue legislative threats to Major League Baseball.