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Run, Hide, Fight?

When seconds count, the police are typically minutes away. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a Beretta or a Glock to protect yourself?

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Jack Dunphy

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April 18, 2013 - 12:06 am
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It’s interesting to note that though the video was produced in Houston, where one presumes there are a good many people who legally carry concealed firearms, there was no mention of using a gun to fight off an armed maniac.  The video shows a group of office workers in a room that can’t be locked or barricaded, and at the sound of the approaching gunman they arm themselves with a chair, a coffee pot, and what have you, all of which they are about to launch at the entering gunman when the scene is cut.  Wouldn’t it be far preferable to bring a gun to the gunfight instead of a chair or a coffee pot?

In the sophisticated regions along both coasts, such a suggestion is often greeted with sneering derision.  “Do you want to see everyone armed with a gun?” they ask.

To which I would answer, no, I want to see some people armed with guns, the people who know how to use them when the maniac comes through the door with his.  Go to most any shooting range on a Saturday afternoon and among those practicing their skills you’ll find people every bit as qualified to resist an armed attack as the typical police officer, some much more so.

And as our elected representatives continue in their bipartisan delusion that some legislative prophylactic can avert this type of horror, reasonable people know better and will conduct their lives accordingly, some by carrying weapons of their own.

I’ve been through a number of training sessions in which my colleagues and I simulate responding to a mass shooting incident.  We’re taught to assemble into small “contact teams” and run to the sound of the gunfire, bypassing the wounded and panicked as we do so.  I pray that if such a scenario were to come to pass, we would react quickly and effectively to end the killing, but I know that some people would surely be dead by the time we arrived at the scene and deployed.

If I were to enter an office building under those circumstances and ask some fleeing worker where the gunman was, I would hope to hear an answer like this:

“He’s face down in the stairwell.  Williams from accounting shot him.”

You might have a chance with a chair or a coffee pot, but wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?

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Jack Dunphy is the pseudonym of a police officer in Southern California.

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To them that's the same thing.
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My place of work prohibits firearms and other weapons. However, I still bring "tools" to work. All these tools have blades on them as well as screwdirvers and bottle openers. At least I will have an edged weapon in extremis. If I can't get out I will at least try to setup in a counterambush position and try to stick the shooter as he enters the room. I would carry one of my guns if I htought I could get away with it in the long run. I would rather be terminated afterr terminating the shooter iknowning that I have saved lifes.

Mr. Dunphys has is it right. Anybody who carries on a regular basis is very likely to be a better shot than the average big city patrolman. They just don't get to the range often enough. One of the biggest lies told by gun grabbers is that armed citizens can't effectively handle firearms. Before the great ammo shortage I shot 750-1000 rounds a month from pistols and rifles. I have had to cut back some lately but still fire more rounds in a couple of months than an NYPD officer fires in a career. I am capable of walking in off the street to any of the military facilities in the DC metro area and qualifying with pistol inside of 10 minutes with no initial practice. I am the rule not the exception for regular concealed carriers. Furthermore, citizens are far less likely to shoot bystanders than the NY or LA PD because we have no "cop exemption" for collateral damage.

It is much better to throw a 45 ACP round at 830fps at the shooter than a chair. The 45 will slow him down permanently.
1 year ago
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The difference between a conservative and a leftist is that a leftist looks at America and sees 300 million potential terrorists and criminals while a conservative sees 300 million potential deputies.

Now neither view is a perfect reflection of reality but the conservative one is far, far, far closer to it than the leftist one.
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Did you see the sign on the door at 59 seconds? It was the Texas "30.06" sign that bans concealed carriers.

Note how well it didn't stop the gunman.
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United States Army Doctrine: Use all available weapons. Think about what's available in your workplace. I'd be out of line making more concrete suggestions, but think about it.

The five classical weapons of Okinawan Karate are objects readily available in the village which are not considered to be weapons, therefore not proscribed by the Japanese via death penalty. For example, the tonfa was originally the capstan crank for the village water well. Google it.
1 year ago
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I agree with your sentiment, especially the idea that the best active shooter is a room-temperature active shooter, but please... Virginia Tech, VT, VPI, or Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University... but not Virginia Tech University.
1 year ago
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Apologies from an uninitiated West-Coaster.
1 year ago
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To answer your question, "wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?" my answer is: no. No I would not.
1 year ago
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That is your personal decision, and you have a right to go down as an unarmed sheep, just dont force me to make the same unwise decision.
1 year ago
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'To answer your question, "wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?" my answer is: no. No I would not.'

I totally agree. Berettas and Glocks just don't do it for me. I much prefer a Springfield XD 45.
1 year ago
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I'm sure I speak for many when I ask: Why not?
1 year ago
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So, thanks Mr.Will, keep the shooter occupied with killing you while I get a bead on him .
1 year ago
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So - your own life, never mind the lives of others - is not worth defending?

One can only wonder what manner of corrupt and craven calculus could produce such a result.
1 year ago
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The executives of companies which do not allow people to carry firearms on the job should be made to personally stand guard at all of their business locations. I used to work for a chain of gas stations near in Detroit which had a no-guns policy for employees, and guess what? We got robbed a lot.
1 year ago
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The reason noone had a gun that could be used to defend oneself with is that posted to the entrance to the building and visible as the "shooter" entered was a 30.06 sign required by Texas firearms law that no concealed weapons are permitted in that building.
1 year ago
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Another silly law, and it worked to the advantage of the shooter. Duh!!
Gun free zones are an invitation to havoc and carnage. Why would the State open the door to this type of crime?
Because Bureaucrats are mostly MORONS in suits... with more power than brains.....
1 year ago
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Myron, see my post (whamprod) an hour before yours....
1 year ago
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Now for the question: why are certain groups with certain politics so against someone acting to save innocent life, when they, as a group, are so quick to protect guilty life against the legal system.

I have a great deal of personal experience with them, and it seems to come to issues:

1. Hatred of the other, that is a disdain for anyone who does share their background and opinion.

2. Ignorance based on very cosseted backgrounds isolated completely from life outside of their very narrow communities.

It is sad, but I don't want nor want others to die for someones self-righteous, pseudo-religious prejudices.

Until we know they views for what they are, the innocent will continue to die and the guilty will have their smug pleasure.
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"If I were to enter an office building under those circumstances and ask some fleeing worker where the gunman was, I would hope to hear an answer like this: `He’s face down in the stairwell. Williams from accounting shot him.' You might have a chance with a chair or a coffee pot, but wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?"

I prefer what you prefer, but many gun control advocates would prefer that you face a live killer after I had a go with my chair and coffee pot. This scenario can be used to advocate for more gun control, which is what they want. Your preferred scenario would be used by the NRA to push _its_ agenda.
1 year ago
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I was surprised by something in the video, namely that in the Run scenario, the recommendation to call 911 was last, after people were away from the active fire zone. In the Hide and Attack scenarios, calling 911 wasn't even on the list. Shouldn't calling 911 be very high on ALL of the lists? That three minute average response time could stretch out to much more if no one actually calls the police because they're too busy running, hiding or attacking.

Am I missing something?
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