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Run, Hide, Fight?

When seconds count, the police are typically minutes away. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a Beretta or a Glock to protect yourself?

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Jack Dunphy

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April 18, 2013 - 12:06 am
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You’re at your desk at work one day, watching the seconds and the minutes ticking ever so slowly by, longing for the moment when you can get up and head for the parking lot and freedom, when suddenly . . . uh oh.

In through the office door comes the guy who got fired a month ago, the guy you were happy to see let go, the guy about whom you and your coworkers said things like, “I wouldn’t be surprised if he came back with a gun some day.”

Some day is here, and so is the guy, and so is the gun.

What do you do now?

Even for those who are careful planners, the people who plot out their days down to the finest detail and consider options for every conceivable turn of events, such a contingency must seem too remote to consider.  But what if?

A recent story in the New York Times asks that very question, and reports that opinions on the answer have changed.  “The speed and deadliness of recent high-profile shootings,” says the Times, “have prompted police departments to recommend fleeing, hiding or fighting in the event of a mass attack, instead of remaining passive and waiting for help.”

In light of such recent horrors as the massacres in Newtown, Conn., and Aurora, Colo., this advice may seem obvious enough.  But as the story notes, it represents a shift in thinking among police researchers who once counseled people to call 911 and wait for help to arrive rather than run, hide, or fight in the event of an attack.

A close examination of mass shooting incidents revealed that the chances of survival increased when potential victims took steps to resist an attack by a gunman.  The research, conducted at Texas State University, looked at 84 such incidents and found the rate of survival was higher in those cases where people fought or obstructed the attacker.  For example, researchers noted that in the Virginia Tech University massacre that took place six years ago this week, in two classrooms where students and teachers tried to hide or play dead after the assailant entered, nearly all were shot and most died.  In another classroom, the teacher held the door shut long enough for most of his students to jump out a window.  The teacher was shot through the door and killed, as was one student, but the others survived.  In a third classroom, the teacher and students blocked the door with a heavy desk, preventing the gunman from entering.  Everyone in that room survived.

The most important message emerging from the study is this: in the event of a mass shooting, the police may not arrive until it’s over, as was the case in about half the incidents examined.  The average police response time in the 84 shootings was three minutes, which may seem fast until one considers how much carnage a committed and well-armed gunman can bring down on a school, office, or shopping mall in three minutes.

Public safety officials in Houston have produced a video that instructs people to take action if they find themselves faced with a mass shooter.  Filmed in an office building, the video depicts a scenario typical of a workplace shooting.  People are going about their business when suddenly a man walks in, pulls a shotgun from a backpack, and starts shooting.  The video advocates running as the preferable option if a safe escape route is available, and barricading the door and hiding if one is not.  As a last resort, the video recommends using any kind of improvised weapon available and taking the attack to the attacker, an option I couldn’t endorse more strongly.  As the valiant passengers of United Flight 93 demonstrated on Sept. 11, 2001, if you’re going to be killed anyway, better to put up a fight and make the bastards work for it.

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To them that's the same thing.
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My place of work prohibits firearms and other weapons. However, I still bring "tools" to work. All these tools have blades on them as well as screwdirvers and bottle openers. At least I will have an edged weapon in extremis. If I can't get out I will at least try to setup in a counterambush position and try to stick the shooter as he enters the room. I would carry one of my guns if I htought I could get away with it in the long run. I would rather be terminated afterr terminating the shooter iknowning that I have saved lifes.

Mr. Dunphys has is it right. Anybody who carries on a regular basis is very likely to be a better shot than the average big city patrolman. They just don't get to the range often enough. One of the biggest lies told by gun grabbers is that armed citizens can't effectively handle firearms. Before the great ammo shortage I shot 750-1000 rounds a month from pistols and rifles. I have had to cut back some lately but still fire more rounds in a couple of months than an NYPD officer fires in a career. I am capable of walking in off the street to any of the military facilities in the DC metro area and qualifying with pistol inside of 10 minutes with no initial practice. I am the rule not the exception for regular concealed carriers. Furthermore, citizens are far less likely to shoot bystanders than the NY or LA PD because we have no "cop exemption" for collateral damage.

It is much better to throw a 45 ACP round at 830fps at the shooter than a chair. The 45 will slow him down permanently.
1 year ago
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The difference between a conservative and a leftist is that a leftist looks at America and sees 300 million potential terrorists and criminals while a conservative sees 300 million potential deputies.

Now neither view is a perfect reflection of reality but the conservative one is far, far, far closer to it than the leftist one.
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Did you see the sign on the door at 59 seconds? It was the Texas "30.06" sign that bans concealed carriers.

Note how well it didn't stop the gunman.
1 year ago
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United States Army Doctrine: Use all available weapons. Think about what's available in your workplace. I'd be out of line making more concrete suggestions, but think about it.

The five classical weapons of Okinawan Karate are objects readily available in the village which are not considered to be weapons, therefore not proscribed by the Japanese via death penalty. For example, the tonfa was originally the capstan crank for the village water well. Google it.
1 year ago
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I agree with your sentiment, especially the idea that the best active shooter is a room-temperature active shooter, but please... Virginia Tech, VT, VPI, or Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University... but not Virginia Tech University.
1 year ago
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Apologies from an uninitiated West-Coaster.
1 year ago
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To answer your question, "wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?" my answer is: no. No I would not.
1 year ago
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That is your personal decision, and you have a right to go down as an unarmed sheep, just dont force me to make the same unwise decision.
1 year ago
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'To answer your question, "wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?" my answer is: no. No I would not.'

I totally agree. Berettas and Glocks just don't do it for me. I much prefer a Springfield XD 45.
1 year ago
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I'm sure I speak for many when I ask: Why not?
1 year ago
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So, thanks Mr.Will, keep the shooter occupied with killing you while I get a bead on him .
1 year ago
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So - your own life, never mind the lives of others - is not worth defending?

One can only wonder what manner of corrupt and craven calculus could produce such a result.
1 year ago
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The executives of companies which do not allow people to carry firearms on the job should be made to personally stand guard at all of their business locations. I used to work for a chain of gas stations near in Detroit which had a no-guns policy for employees, and guess what? We got robbed a lot.
1 year ago
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The reason noone had a gun that could be used to defend oneself with is that posted to the entrance to the building and visible as the "shooter" entered was a 30.06 sign required by Texas firearms law that no concealed weapons are permitted in that building.
1 year ago
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Another silly law, and it worked to the advantage of the shooter. Duh!!
Gun free zones are an invitation to havoc and carnage. Why would the State open the door to this type of crime?
Because Bureaucrats are mostly MORONS in suits... with more power than brains.....
1 year ago
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Myron, see my post (whamprod) an hour before yours....
1 year ago
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Now for the question: why are certain groups with certain politics so against someone acting to save innocent life, when they, as a group, are so quick to protect guilty life against the legal system.

I have a great deal of personal experience with them, and it seems to come to issues:

1. Hatred of the other, that is a disdain for anyone who does share their background and opinion.

2. Ignorance based on very cosseted backgrounds isolated completely from life outside of their very narrow communities.

It is sad, but I don't want nor want others to die for someones self-righteous, pseudo-religious prejudices.

Until we know they views for what they are, the innocent will continue to die and the guilty will have their smug pleasure.
1 year ago
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"If I were to enter an office building under those circumstances and ask some fleeing worker where the gunman was, I would hope to hear an answer like this: `He’s face down in the stairwell. Williams from accounting shot him.' You might have a chance with a chair or a coffee pot, but wouldn’t you rather have a Beretta or a Glock?"

I prefer what you prefer, but many gun control advocates would prefer that you face a live killer after I had a go with my chair and coffee pot. This scenario can be used to advocate for more gun control, which is what they want. Your preferred scenario would be used by the NRA to push _its_ agenda.
1 year ago
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I was surprised by something in the video, namely that in the Run scenario, the recommendation to call 911 was last, after people were away from the active fire zone. In the Hide and Attack scenarios, calling 911 wasn't even on the list. Shouldn't calling 911 be very high on ALL of the lists? That three minute average response time could stretch out to much more if no one actually calls the police because they're too busy running, hiding or attacking.

Am I missing something?
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