Roe v. Wade: Tragic Anniversary
With the 40th anniversary of the infamous Roe v. Wade decision, many are reflecting on the consequences legally, morally, spiritually, and ultimately in human lives. Even liberal legal scholars have acknowledged in recent years that the Supreme Court’s constitutional basis for its decision was questionable, but the private views below focus on the moral and not the legal implications of the decision.
I work in Washington. Just down the street from my office, every year hundreds of thousands of Americans come to the March for Life to protest the enormous loss of innocent lives engendered by this legal decision. The participants include my brother Michael and his family: he works to raise money for members of his church to travel the long distance to Washington.
Given our familiarity with German history because of our family background (my mother grew up in Nazi Germany), we are aware of the well-known, inspiring, chilling speech by Martin Niemöller, a Protestant pastor and vocal critic of Adolph Hitler who spent seven years in a concentration camp. My brother used that speech recently as an inspiration for speaking to a group about the March for Life:
“They first came for the most innocent among us, the unborn, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a baby in the womb.”
Did you know that today in the U.S. 3,000 to 4,000 children will be killed in the womb; that in the next week 21,000 to 28,000 of our younger brothers and sisters will be dead from abortion; that this year alone 1.2 million will perish in the U.S.; that since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision over 54 million of the most innocent among us have been killed in and outside of the womb; that worldwide over 45 million babies are aborted every year; that within the African-American community, the rate of abortion is 3 to 4 times higher than in the rest of the population and that 36% of all abortions in the U.S. are of African-American babies, despite the fact that African-Americans only represent 13.6% of the population; that the leading cause of death in the U.S. is abortion, twice that of the next leading cause, which is heart disease?
“Then they came for the disabled, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t disabled.”
Did you know that in the U.S., 90% of all Down Syndrome children are aborted?
“Then they came for the unborn baby girls, and I didn’t speak out because I was not an unborn baby girl.”
Did you know that over 160 million unborn baby girls have been aborted worldwide simply because they are girls, and that figure includes the U.S.?
“Then they came for the elderly because they were a burden on society, and I didn’t speak out because I was not old.”
Did you know that in the Netherlands, which has had euthanasia since the early 1980s, so many elderly are put to death based solely on a doctors’ decision that many now cross the border to see a doctor in another European country out of fear?
“Then they came for the Church and for me, and there was no one left to speak for us.”
In Matthew Chapter 25:40, Jesus is talking about the last judgment and says “And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.” One day we will all stand in front of our Lord and have to answer for what we did or failed to do. Will we then be able to say: “Yes Lord we stood up for the least of these, for the unborn, for the disabled, for the elderly?” I know that I will want to be able to say, “yes, Lord” and then hear in response “well done my good and faithful servant.”
Today I ask you once more to stand up for the least of our brethren, to stand up for life and the dignity of each human person by generously supporting our effort to raise funds that will allow parishioners at St. Jude and Holy Spirit to participate in the annual prayerful and peaceful March for Life in Washington, D.C. in January, so that our voices can be heard on behalf of the least of our brethren.
As the Church teaches, when the issue is whether to protect or deny the fundamental right to life, it outweighs other matters. Among acts that are intrinsically evil (although reconciliation and forgiveness are possible), those that directly attack life itself, the clearest example of which is abortion, are the foremost violations of human dignity.
The right to life is the foundation upon which all other human rights are based and without which no other right could possibly exist. The right to life is indeed our first right, and protecting life to the maximum degree possible must be our highest priority.
I couldn’t have said it better myself — it must run in the family.
Hans von Spakovsky is a lawyer in Washington. He is writing this essay in a purely private capacity.
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In 1973 I had a teacher who spent more time extolling the wonderfulness of abortion than teaching the class. The teacher’s standard advice to any girl who got pregnant was to get an abortion. The teacher recommended pre-marital sex by using the analogy of “trying the shoe on first”. If a girl had parents who were opposed to abortion, the teacher’s advice was for the girl to tell her parents that the father was black.
Forty years later, I’ve come to believe that people who like abortion, hate babies.
Only the outrage of the people will overturn Roe v Wade. We are consistently betrayed into a deceitful hope by Politicians who, absorbed into a system dominated by a hateful Presence, have neither the strength of character or faith in their own beliefs to challenge abortion with even a single bill of protection. Obamacare forces those opposed to this murder to pay for its underlying culture of death. It is time for us to give up on Washington and challenge first our own friends who believe in and vote for “choice”. Let us call abortion what it is, a painful death accompanied by a silent scream perpetrated against the most vulnerable among us. We the people have to speak out against abortion, to our friends, family and by opposing Planned Parenthood in and near our schools. Let us make “choice” an unpopular term by revealing the truth. “Choice” hurts women and kills children.
I completely understand and support women who will not have an abortion for ANY reason. I also support men & women who are disgusted by their taxpayer monies going to fund abortions for others. However, I feel nothing but contempt for those who demand that OTHERS be unable to have an abortion.
Catholics & evangelicals need to understand that many many mainline Christians do NOT believe that abortion is murder. Period! Huckebee, O’Reilly, & Laura Ingraham’s constant statement that, “Everyone knows that life begins at conception” is simply not true!!!!
Many of us do not consider childbirth an “inconvenience.” It’s a serious committment to years & years of 100% concentration on that responsibility! It’s not a responsibility to be taken lightly. It’s a 24/7 life-changing TOTAL COMMITTMENT. Abortion is a far better choice for a woman who is unable to make that 24/7 committment to her child!
You know what I find contemptible above all else? People who have the unmitigated gall to justify a slaughter of innocents under the banner of ‘Christianity’ and responsibility. You’re beyond low. You’re a reprobate of the highest order.
Mainline churches? You mean leftist politics wrapped with a thin veneer of religiosity? People have left your churches in droves. Presbyterian, Methodist, Episcopalian, Baptist…take you’re pick. People have split and your churches sit mostly empty even at great monetary costs to those who left and started over to rebuild.
Your influence is nothing but a malodorous stench of death and decay.
And how contemptible is it to have a wet dream?
The spermatozoa lost in just one such ejaculation could have impregnated 100s of women!
Bloody murder!
Wet dreams are involentary, but abortion is not.
The Orthodox Christian Church has kept itself free of this poison.
So has the Catholic Church, my sister.
Bravo Tex!
Carol sounds exactly like the Pro-Slavery defenders of yore. Not everyone agrees that Slavery is un-Christian and immoral…dont ya know! Blacks just arent fully developed human beings and therefore we can do whatever we like with them. In fact slavery is good for these childlike mentally and morally deficient sub-humans, as they are fed and cared for by their masters, even taught Christian morals and decency. It’s a serious lifelong commitment, not to be taken lightly!
“‘Everyone knows that life begins at conception’is simply not true!!!!” Are you kidding, Carol? Everyone??? It isn’t that hard to accept that human life begins as a single cell zygote. You were once a zygote. We all were zygotes. If those zygotes had been killed, you or I would not be here. Delayed humanization? I think not; there is NO evidence. Really not difficult to understand.
Sorry, Linda Lou…I wasn’t clear.
I didn’t mean: Everyone knows that “life begins at conception is not true.”
I meant, the statement that “Everyone knows that life begins at conception” is not true. Everyone does NOT think that life begins at conception.
And those people who don’t think life begins at conception are absolute morons who don’t actually understand how biology works. You see, many actual doctors and biologists who actually understand biology also believe life begins at conception. They believe it not because of a religious belief. They believe it because of what their studies in biology have taught them. They believe that life begins at conception because of their own documented scientific facts and cases proving it. Those who don’t believe life begins at conception have simply ignored all the documented scientific evidence flat out proving that life begins at conception.
Excepting every biological scientist on the planet, whom believe that life begins at conception and teach this to every college student in Biology 101 class at Uni.
Biological science deniers with their fingers in their ears because they dont want to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
Anti Science hedonists whove tossed all morality out of the window, so as to not inconvenience themselves, hiding behind fig leafs, too self absorbed to be ashamed of themselves.
Got your number Carol.
Are you kidding me? You obvious know very little about mainline Christians. I’ve met many, and every single mainline Christian I’ve met agrees that abortion is wrong and should NEVER be done under any circumstances. That is the view of mainline Christians, ignoramus, so get your head out of your rear end and quit speaking for a group of people you know absolutely nothing about.
And please, the tired old excuse of young women not ready for the commitment of having a child. Well, they could have easily prevented that by, you know, BEING INTELLIGENT AND NOT SLEEPING AROUND, lol. I mean, I am a straight male approaching 30, and I am proud to say that I am actually intelligent enough to NOT sleep around, lol. In fact, I happen to still be a virgin. Not that hard a commitment you know. Besides that, if the woman is stupid and gets pregnant without wanting to be pregnant, there is something called ADOPTION. You see, though the idiot woman not ready for the commitment of a child didn’t want the child, there are plenty of loving families willing to take the child in. Abortion is WRONG, period, and the excuse of not wanting to commit to raising a child simply does NOT fly when there are many loving, caring families out there who are will to adopt the child. Get your head out of your rear end, please, and start to think in reality.
That was an appalling argument. If many “mainstream” Christians think abortion is okay than they are apostates no different than Nancy Pelosi and the other pro abortion Catholics. If being unable to care for a child 24/7 is moral and ethical grounds to kill the child for God’s sake, don’t have unprotected sex. if you can’t do that get your tubes tied or if you’re a man get a vasectomy.
I completely understand and support women who will not own slaves for ANY reason. I also support men & women who are disgusted by their taxpayer monies going to fund slavery for others. However, I feel nothing but contempt for those who demand that OTHERS be unable to own slaves.
Catholics & evangelicals need to understand that many many mainline Christians do NOT believe that slavery is immoral. Period! Stowe, Douglass, and Abraham Lincoln’s constant statement that, “If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong” is simply not true!!!!
Bingo!
Half of the people are against and half are for the freedom to choose abortion.
This is not an issue that can be legislated. 50% is not enough popular support.
Think of murder, 99.99 of people oppose murder.
Since you think that abortion is “murder”, lets be clear I am talking about a born person. The personhood of an unborn baby is not universally accepted.
Only value that are universally accepted can be made to good laws.
Just imagine that someone would want to impose veganism on the nation.
There are many good arguments, but as long as nation is not supporting such position it cannot be a law.
Theft, murder, arson, cheating, death threats, extortions, etc, are universally accepted crimes.
If we were to abide by this asinine statement, there would be no law.
Anybody that doesn’t recognize the value of the unborn has no credibility and frankly could at best be defined as amoral. This comment only reinforced what I deemed from your other comments:
You’re woefully confused.
Getting pregnant is a choice. Getting an abortion is killing a baby in the womb.
But since most abortions are other people’s babies, people are not so motivated to stop it. If there were 100 people like Mr. Schroeder, the man who aborted the abortionist Tiller, abortion would be outlawed tomorrow. Fortunately for the abortion crowd, there’s only one man like Mr. Schroeder, and he’s locked up.
Slavery in the US. Look into it.
“Since you think that abortion is “murder”, lets be clear I am talking about a born person. The personhood of an unborn baby is not universally accepted.”
It’s not a question of what I think. In the state I live in, if a woman and an abortionist kill a baby in her womb, it’s okay; if I kill that same baby…it’s murder.
Many Americans, wrongly, consider the pondering of the Supreme Court to be similar to theoretical physics, beyond the grasp of normal people. The trappings, the erudite presentations, the robes, the marble halls, are meant to convey the presence of god like wisdom and power. It has validity, to a point.
But all judges are mortals; they die. By my belief, each of us will be held responsible, after death, for our conduct on this earth. The case, Roe v. Wade, was decided by a 7-2 vote, with Judge Blackmun writing the majority opinion with Burger and Douglas concurring. Some 55,000,000 humans have been killed based on their decision. This rivals the slaughter of World War II. Many legal scholars consider it lousy jurisprudence.
Today would be a good day to consider the fates of Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Blackmun, Douglas, and Burger. There are consequences to our actions. Some gravely injured our society. It is most difficult, but we were ordered to pray for the dead, even monsters. I do not envy their temporal power.
What a shame that Obama’s mother did not abort him.
Now now, let’s not have any of that. Saddam Hussein’s mother was wrong for trying to abort him, and Obama’s mother would have been wrong had she aborted him. We only put people to death after they have committed a capital crime and been convicted of it, and otherwise they may only be killed if in the act of committing a grave crime against a person and do not surrender upon being confronted. You cannot shoot someone after he surrenders, nor empty a clip into a man after he has been wounded and disarmed.
The secular standard for life is a beating heart and active brain. That defenders of abortion willfully and pointedly ignore this regarding the issue shows that they are fascists at heart and would have no problem killing you or me if they were able and it would make their lives easier.
Before 9th week, when majority of all abortions occur, both “heart” and “brain”, are more similar to the worm’s than to a human’s.
I hope that you are a vegetarian, because if not, then you are killing far more advanced hearts and brains. Then you are really a hypocrite. Which I am pretty sure you are.
So you’re saying abortions should be banned after nine weeks? In that case you shouldn’t have voted for Obama because that would make you a hypocrite.
But I’m pretty sure you did and you are.
Anyway, it’s the DNA that determines the humanity. The heartbeat merely indicates the presence of life — at least according to secular standards — and the heartbeat of the unborn child starts as early as the fourth week of pregnancy and can almost certainly be detected by week 7: http://www.livestrong.com/article/242600-when-does-an-unborn-baby-have-a-heartbeat/
Actually, since that human being at 9 weeks is a human being, his heart and brain activity is 100% like a humans at that stage of development.
Remember when Blacks were compared to apes and monkeys, chimpanzees and baboons? This is exactly what you sound like. You are using the exact same dehumanizing language in order to justify the abuse of others human rights. They used to measure the size of craniums the slopes of foreheads, now they measure tail lengths and brain activity. The purpose is the same. You should be utterly ashamed of yourself.
A Bacchanalian over the wanton murder of millions, terminated for convenience’s sake.
If ever there were a sign how simply evil the Left is, there it is.
Thank you for publishing this speech.
Let us pray
What makes these numbers even more repugnant is the fact that safe,effective and usually free birth control is readily available. Planned Parenthood probably makes a lot more money in the “removal” business however.
What really confounds me is how the liberal mind can call what so clearly is a baby a “clump of cells” or a “fetus” or something else in desperate attempts to avoid the “b” word. Later these “fetuses,” if they are lucky enough to escape death by abortion become magically important enough to be martyrs in the quest to disarm America.
Liberals also rail hypocritically against the death penalty when their minions run a death industry that would make Nazi Germany proud.
The part that confounds me is they claim abortion is about “women’s health” but then they actively work to keep women from getting information about the risks abortion poses to their future health (including fertility and mental health). If you demanded women go into any other surgical procedure completely ignorant of the side effects, you’d be (rightly) bashed for your misogyny.
Not to mention the lengths proponents go to to defeat laws meant to protect the lives of women who choose abortions…Requiring a licensed physician be on the premises while procedures are being performed? Holding abortion clinics to the same health and safety standards as other outpatient clinics? Clearly, you hate “women’s health”….no, we just don’t give killing babies a higher priority than keeping women from dying.
I would only ask of the cost and who would pay it.
We get that you want to impose your religious ideas on everyone. I just wish that you’d admit that overturning Roe v Wade amounts to a great increase in the power of government over individuals. I guess some sorts of statism are OK. Perhaps it depends on the gender of the body subjected to bureaucratic control.
My response to @7 skeet shooter didn’t pop up, may have been a glitch or I’m impatient, but there are a few things pro-abortion people say that make prolifers think “what an idiot”.
#1 is “I thought we settled that debate”. lol yes, pro-abortion folks got the Supreme Court (according to both Roe and Doe, both currently pro-lifers, it was by using deceit) to agree to allow pro-abortion women to kill their unborn children. But all this time, pro-lifers have been having children and grandchildren and are beginning to outnumber you. It’s called the Roe effect.
#2 “If only contraceptives were widely available, then we wouldn’t have so many unplanned pregnancies”. Unfortunately, reality didn’t get the memo about this bit of wishful thinking and it’s nudged up just a bit since 1968/Humanae Vitae etc.
#3 “The government needs to get out of the abortion question” Actually Roe v Wade WAS when the federal government stuck its big butt into the abortion question. Before that, it was up to the states.
#4 “Get your rosaries off my ovaries” Get your ovaries out of my wallet.
#5a If abortion is made illegal again, women will die from unsafe abortions” First, since physicians know better than we do that abortion is the taking of a human life, you get mostly bottom-of-the-barrel doctors performing abortions because that’s the only work they can get (See Hodari, Gosnell, etc) Second, the reason women (and men) stopped dying from surgery as much (from all surgeries) around the time various states began allowing abortions, was that antibiotics became more widely used. 5b is Heather’s second point above, that prolifers don’t care about women’s health since we want abortion clinics to meet basic medical standards. (There was some kerfuffle in VA a few years back when it was proposed that abortion clinics meet the same standards that veterinary clinics do…)
#6 has to do with overpopulation, even though most agree that world population will only increase until around 2050, mainly due to longer life spans throughout the world. After that, it will drop sharply. (Of course, this doesn’t take Obamacare’s death panels/IPAB into account so the population drop might be slightly earlier)
So, you’re on #3? Thank you for your time.
Overturning Roe would simply put the issue back in state legislatures where it should be decided and not in the hands of the all powerful Federal Leviathan.
The problem isn’t federal vs state. What you’re in favor of is governmental control of a private choice, and you should admit it.
Note that in a whole range of issues, the Republican complaint is not that the other side is limiting people’s choices, but that they aren’t. Nobody ever suggested that gay marriage should be obligatory, after all, any more than anybody suggested that the state should force a woman to have an abortion. Loving v Virginia didn’t oblige anybody to marry outside of their race. It simply allowed them to do so without state interference. And so forth.
You guys are authoritarians without the balls to admit it to yourselves. You are in favor of liberty for me but not for thee.
You ought to know all about sanctimonious authoritarian.
You failed leftist lowlifes in academia know all about limiting parental school choice – and that’s something we all get to pay for without choice for your benefit. Frankly, I don’t find you worth a plug nickel and we should immediately eliminate your job for gross incompetence, double standards and mind boggling hypocrisy.
And he does not deserve to be respected, much less acknowledged as drawing breath.
Besides which there’s more wax in his ears, preventing him from hearing anything anyone else says, than in the candles to be found in a thousand churches.
PS: Peace out, Jimbo.
…Like I said. Leftist double standards.
As far as drawing breath? You think if you spin off this planet tonight Jimbo, anybody is going to really care? I don’t think anyone is even going to notice, unless the small chance somebody ends up at that unread blog of yours by accident.
to “Jimbo” I was being sarcastic to Jim Harrison.
Don’t run so hot under the collar.
It’s what got Andrew Breitbart dead before he turned 50.
To the person who responded to Tex: I’ve been saying this for weeks. Harrishmuck a.k.a. Hitlerson, isn’t worth responding to. He’s an anti-Semitic rube.
… it is quite clear that you are a person in desperate need of prayer.
As you are a person who hates, and lives to hate, I find it difficult to not hate you. Frankly, it is difficult in your case to separate the Sinner from the Sin.
But I will try my level best to do exactly that, and to pray that your mind and soul may find enough peace to not be such a pestilence to the people around you.
God’s Grace awaits even you.
Prayer and sin are all personal issues.
We are talking politics not religion here.
Religion and politics don’t mix.
There are two flaws in this logic. They stem from the errors in Roe v Wade.
There is no right to privacy in the Constitution; it does not exist. To create a federal right based on “penumbras and emanations” is simply legal word smithing. Thus if the authority is not clearly assigned to federal authority, the decision reverts to the states and the people, the laboratories of democracy. Both left and right now largely accept this; the SC screwed up big time. (If there is a right to privacy, the gun ban has no power to require disclosure to the government on weapon ownership. But consistent logic has little value in today’s discourse.)
The second error is the decision: When does a human being acquire rights against the government’s power to kill him/her? This must be defined by a legislature, the people’s representatives. It must never be a diktat from unelected judges. Our nation once suffered grievously because nine judges decided that the right to own slaves extended to every square inch of our country (The infamous Dred Scott decision). People did not argue the decision; they reached for a weapon. The question of slavery was decided by killing en mass, the Civil War.
We must do better. Roe v Wade was/ is a legal and societal disaster, dumb law. The religious aspects is a red herring.
It is rich to hear a cheer leader for the nanny state accusing us of being authoritarians. The authority I recognize is the authority of a transcendent morality which God wrote in human hearts. You can twist it into convoluted illogical deconstructed nonsense but we all know in our hearts that driving forceps into the skull of a living breathing baby is a monstrous evil. We know that or were soul dead reprobates.
Exactly true.
It is because of these moralist trying to legislate our personal lives that we have the Hussein in the W.H.
If he conservatives were really conservative, they would not tell people how to live their personal lives, abortions, drugs, religion, etc.
I’m not an academic. I’ve just read a couple of books. Whatever you’ve been told, you don’t have to be a teacher to read.
It certainly isn’t true of all the Christians I’ve encountered, but the right-wing ones do seem to be confused about the meaning of “agape.” For them it apparently means deadly hatred of the outsiders, not love or charity. You’re perfectly within your rights to wish me to drop dead, to encourage me to commit suicide, to savor the thought that I’ll roast in the Inferno. Odd that you think your outlook is evangelical, however, except to the extent that Nietzsche was right about the innermost motives of the faithful, that the motor of the faith is a gnawing resentment of anybody who they think make look down on them. And brother, if you can envy me, your life is doomed to be a hell of envy.
Excellent post, we agree. Mostly. Christians often screw up the concept, and practice of agape. We are human. We are sinners. (And we could have a colloquy on the genius F. Nietzsche but this is not the proper forum. I recommend “Nietzsche and Jung, Sailing a Deeper Night”, P. Dixon on both subjects, agape, and the motor of the faith).
…. and of more than one kind.
Verily, the Scriptures say, “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and no murderer has eternal life.”
“You guys are authoritarians without the balls to admit it to yourselves.”
I am when it comes to preventing the murder of babies.
> overturning Roe v Wade amounts to a great increase in the power of government over individuals.
only if you discount the existing asserted authority of life and death over one individual that it grants to another individual
> Perhaps it depends on the gender of the body subjected to bureaucratic control.
or the age
If the government will not prohibit and punish murder, it has no right to exist at all.
Please don’t waste your time and energy on the likes of Jim Harrishmuck a.k.a. Jim Hitlerson. He has venomous opinions on every topic, even ones he knows nothing about. He is simply too ignorant to understand how ignorant he is. However, he thinks he knows everything about everything and thinks he has the solution to all of the world’s problems. The guy is what Thomas Sowell might call a self-anointed messiah. He believes that civilized and successful people and countries are intrinsically evil and he has a vicious hatred of Jews and Israel. His posts are often incoherent ramblings. He evades questions, he tells outright lies and he throws tantrums. Please don’t waste your time and energy on this immature, malignant, narcissistic, attention-starved, anti-Semitic demagogue.
Hey Jim and Carol, what do you think of this ad? Is it witty and hip and clever like Lena Dunham’s “First Time” Obama ad or is it an amoral, reprehensible piece of agitprop? How you answer that question tells us a lot about you.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/01/24/abortion_rights_group_web_ad_celebrates_40th_anniversary_of_roe_v_wade.html
How about this gem of rationalizing murder from a compassionate leftie.
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/23/so_what_if_abortion_ends_life/
It is the morons like the author of this article that are responsible for the downfall of our republic.
Abortion is private affair. It is also religious. If if abortion is counter to someone’s religion, our laws fully support that person in not having an abortion.
But the fascist like the author are not satisfied with having personal freedom, they want to impose their morality and their worldview on other.
There are several truth that must be understood.
the hardest of them is that whether abortion is legal on not, women will be having abortions. Tragically some of them will die, some will be severely hurt by unprofessional procedures.
The second truth is that there are many paths we can take if we sincerely want to lower the number of abortions. One of them is education and promotion of contraception. Interestingly the anti-abortionists are opposed to both of the proven methods. This only proves that they are hypocrites attempting to impose their religious values on others.
The final and most important point is that this country is divide about evenly about the issue, and we are unnecessarily losing support for the conservative cause by trying to impose our little fascist ideas on others.
Conservative means small government, not a government controlling women’s womb.
The personhood of an unborn baby is a religious belief, not a socially established fact. There are religious interpretations that point at the opposite position. For example Adam only became alive after god BREATHED the breath of life into him. Interpretation that only after Adam started breathing he became a true living person.
I am not taking position on this issue, I am just showing that this is a matter of personal and religious understanding, and must not be imposed on others.
If we stop pushing social conservativism, and instead focus on fiscal conservativism, free competition instead of idiotic regulations, strong military posture that affirms our leadership, and proud pro-American foreign policy and education, we would be winning every election.
It is exactly because of these religious fanatics that we have the Hussein in the white house!
Much fewer men than women voted for him. Women don’t want the Republican president to legislate their wombs.
Remember, free abortion means that you you are free, not that you must do it.
The same with free drugs, let the people decide for themselves, even if it is bad for them.
You’re no conservative. You’re a libertine and an amoral nihilist. Keep throwing around your “fascist” name calling. Fascism is a leftist statist philosophy which marries an all powerful government with corrupt corporate power. It’s the refuge of “fiscal conservatives” who are just more shills for corruption and plunder and greed without an enduring moral order. Unfortunately, that government beast will eat you too, fool. Here’s a couple quotes from Russell Kirk , a father of the modern conservative movement who you’ve probably never heard of.
“First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order.”
“A society in which men and women are governed by belief in an enduring moral order, by a strong sense of right and wrong, by personal convictions about justice and honor, will be a good society.”
The non-coercion principle isnt fascist, it is in fact libertarian.
Just because you wish to look the other way, whilst a group is treated as sub-human and their basic human rights are abused, doesnt mean that those who dont and move to stop that via government enforcement of the non-coercion principle are fascists.
Sorry Charlie, take that argument back to Pre-School.
Adam was created, not procreated. There was no Adam before God breathed life into him; there was just a pile of dirt. Psalms 51 and 139 attest that for all the descendants of Adam and Eve, life begins at conception.
Ah, yes, the libertarian heard from! Let the chips fall where they may even though we know damned well where they’re going to fall.
And I just shake my head in dismay that there are people out there who think that legal abortion is somehow a “virtue neutral” thing.
Melissa Ohden: Aborted At Birth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdm-i62hRdc&feature=related
You stated that Politics and Religion don’t mix.
You can keep the Politics out of Religion, but watch out for what Obama did to the Catholic universities and hospitals
You can keep the politics out of business, but watch out for what Obama did to companies run by devoutly Christian owners … and for what happened to Chick Filet
You can keep the Politics out of Science, but watch what almost happened with the AGW movement and the Carbon Offset Shares (talk about another Tulip Mania in the making!)
But to keep Religion or Business or Science out of Politics? Politics intrudes in all of them regularly. Does that Hindu temple get the permit to be erected – or expand. What about that Mosque that had the Radical Imam preaching there for a spell? Do you expand lay down that highway here or there? Do you build that bridge uptown or downtown?
Politics intrudes into too much of everyday life to keep the Religion, the Business or the Science out of it. If you can keep the Cronyism or the State-Sponsoring under control, you’ve done the best anyone can do.
Also, people assume religion means a Steeple. Religion, in practical terms (Spiritual is another matter). means a set of beliefs that transcends and defies Reason and Logic. It is a Religious thought to say that everyone can be saved, or that everyone can be brought to the same level of prosperity, or that – to be specific – everyone should be able to buy a house.
I once saw an employee of a church drop a cinder block on a rat dying of internal bleeding brought on by poisoning. That rat could not be saved. Nor can a person determined to drink themselves to death.
And there are lots of people who cannot now and never will be able to own their own house. Helping them only traps them into a pit of debt that they can never dig themselves out of.
Lefties would deal with rape by making sure the victim can have an abortion, and the rapist can have anger management counseling.
A conservative would make sure the Department of Sanitation can haul off the garbage lying in the street with two in the chest and one in the head…end of story.
Walk for Life today in San Francisco.
It is Catholic insppired, but attracts people of all faiths. 30,000 marching right through the belly of the beast.
Soon as I finish my coffee I am out the door.
There is a very simple, non-political solution to the whole abortion debate. Develop an effective male pill or reversible sterilization. I bet you donuts to dollars that either one of these developments will reduce the abortion rate below what it was PRIOR to Roe vs. Wade. Seriously. I think this will resolve the issue once and for all.
You couldn’t be more wrong if you were composed entirely of anti-matter.
The invention of the “male pill” just creates the line “Yeah, baby, I’m on the pill! Sure! I swear!”
And every bit of birth control just leads to more unwanted pregnancies because it just makes the common herd all the more irresponsible about sex. (And, yes, they CAN INDEED get more irresponsible than they already are.)
Study: Abortions Double in Spain Despite Increased Contraception: http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/03/study-abortions-double-in-spain-despite-increased-contrapcetion/
“Unexpectedly!”
Quite the contrary. The reason why I think the male pill will dramatically reduce abortions is because it will eliminate “oops” events on the part of women, which is the biggest source of unplanned pregnancies.
The right to life is the foundation upon which all other human rights are based and without which no other right could possibly exist. The right to life is indeed our first right, and protecting life to the maximum degree possible must be our highest priority.
Does this right to life include the right to pursue radical life extension technologies?
While I am opposed to abortion, it is some comfort that those children would have become democrat voters.
Sex assault in military: ‘What did they expect?’ DAVID BOROFF, RHEANA MURRAY Monday, February 13, 2012
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-02-13/news/31056821_1_sexual-abuse-fox-news-assault