“… libertarian independent isolationist?” WTF is that? Sounds like a wet noodle to me!

…what’s a libertarian independent isolationist to do? We have no party. We have no candidates. We’re simply faced with a perpetual series of bad choices, forever sacrificing either fiscal discipline and small government or diplomatic restraint and social progressivism.

I read somewhere a screed that made good sense. The short of it was that those who hide behind the moniker of “moderate” are just cowards who want it all, who cannot choose a side and are so squishy in their beliefs that they really and practically do not seem to have any. After reading this highly ‘squishy’ editorial, I have to agree.

Jazz – My message to you is to go off, do some soul searching, decide what you do believe in other than nothing for sure and take a stance. IOW, grow a set, as it were.

FDR did it. Lincoln did it. Lincoln even jailed the treasonous press and a couple political opponents. If Bush had done this, we wouldn’t have had the out-of-control press we have. FDR had censors on the press. No anti-war articles were allowed. No secrets were to be leaked. The Japanese in our country were imprisoned. Spies and saboteurs (terrorists) were shot out of hand when caught on the battlefield.

Sooo… tell me again how evil Bush was?

I always said that no one should be allowed to vote without some knowledge of civics and the issues.

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they haven’t taught civics for years. A group at a Vermont College had a petition table where they had many FEMALE signatories for their cause. The aim was to demonstrate how little civics college students knew. They subject these 95% of female coeds were supporting? ending women’s suffrage.

And people wonder why I advocate repeal of the 26th amendment and raising the voting age to 25 years of age.
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I think going back to the days of only property owners voting would be good.

Er, do I pass the “true-blue” conservative test? Do I get a gold star? A pony? Are you yourself a conservative, with a “I get to decide who’se conservative, and who isn’t?” license?

I opposed Bush on a lot of things. By the end of his administration, I was glad to see him gone. That still doesn’t mean I like Obama. And your point is. . . ?

Oh, by the way—I’m not a racist, and I don’t dislike gay people. I just don’t agree with Jazz Shaw that eeeeeevil conservatives are all trying to force them in re-education facilities, or that such a wrong-headed belief is a good excuse for fooling himself that voting for Obama was a good idea. Again, your point is?

I honestly don’t know much about Glen Beck, so I don’t know if I’m “better” than him or not. Nor, honestly, do I care.

Nor do I care about your opinion of me, Glen Beck, Consevatives in general, or, honestly, much of anything else. Not when you go around with that bilious chip on your shoulder.

Did you support the war in Iraq? In the elimination of right to habeas corpus for US citizens? Of invasion of privacy by undermining FISA? Of throwing trillions of dollars down the drain on two wars of choice?

Answer these questions. I don’t care if you’re conservative, I don’t care if you like gay people, and I don’t care if you’re a racist. If you really are a conservative, you would have opposed Bush as adamantly as you oppose Obama. Otherwise, you’re just a mistrel–no better than Beck the Clown.