Comments on: Reuters Whitewashes Terrorism in Turkey http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:23:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mizgin http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-85609 Mizgin Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:02:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-85609 The most interesting thing about the Güngören bombing is that there were no police on the scene at all during the ten minutes between the first explosion and the second. This is extremely unusual for Turkey, which is a police state. There are three police stations in Güngören, all of which would be able to have police on the scene in five minutes. How do I know there were no police on the scene? There is a home video at <a href="http://www.zaman.com.tr/multimedya.do?tur=video&aktifgaleri=4059&title=a" rel="nofollow">Zaman</a> that was filmed by a resident who lived a very short distance from the explosions. What we see there is a large crowd gathering. We do not see flashing lights, police vehicles, or yellow crime-scene tape. This video is a minute long before the second explosion goes off, which means it's about 9 minutes after the first explosion. Yet no police. Why? Because they knew all about this operation and stayed away until it was safe to show up. After all, there were no police casualties. Everyone in Turkey knows exactly what this means, even if Berlinski, a yabancı who wouldn't be caught dead in a place like Güngören. The most interesting thing about the Güngören bombing is that there were no police on the scene at all during the ten minutes between the first explosion and the second. This is extremely unusual for Turkey, which is a police state. There are three police stations in Güngören, all of which would be able to have police on the scene in five minutes.

How do I know there were no police on the scene? There is a home video at Zaman that was filmed by a resident who lived a very short distance from the explosions. What we see there is a large crowd gathering. We do not see flashing lights, police vehicles, or yellow crime-scene tape. This video is a minute long before the second explosion goes off, which means it’s about 9 minutes after the first explosion. Yet no police. Why?

Because they knew all about this operation and stayed away until it was safe to show up. After all, there were no police casualties.

Everyone in Turkey knows exactly what this means, even if Berlinski, a yabancı who wouldn’t be caught dead in a place like Güngören.

]]> By: Me http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84726 Me Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:59:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84726 It's very simple. Reuters doctored photos for Hezballah during the war. Why? Because Hezballah kept track of what Reuters stringers wrote. Then they controlled entrance to Lebanon based on the content of the stories. Reporters who present the "wrong" side in middle eastern conflicts get death threats. It’s very simple. Reuters doctored photos for Hezballah during the war. Why? Because Hezballah kept track of what Reuters stringers wrote. Then they controlled entrance to Lebanon based on the content of the stories. Reporters who present the “wrong” side in middle eastern conflicts get death threats.

]]> By: mockmook http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84138 mockmook Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:54:57 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84138 Who benefits? Maybe non-PKK insurgents in Iraq would like Turkey to invade; chaos is their last hope for victory. Who benefits?

Maybe non-PKK insurgents in Iraq would like Turkey to invade; chaos is their last hope for victory.

]]> By: Math_Mage http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84091 Math_Mage Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:21:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84091 Claire: I'd guess that Reuters doesn't want to impede the image of northern Iraq as a safe haven under the control of the benevolent Kurdish, upon which Turkey is violently intruding. I don't have the relevant context to see if that's true, but that sleazy motive would explain the sleazy action. Morton Doodslag: "We see here the evil admixture of communistic and Islamic hideousness, and these remain unmentioned in Reuters, but also in Claire’s diatribe against the PKK." -Whose communism and "Islamic hideousness" are you talking about and why is it necessary for either to be mentioned? "Also unmentioned: Turkey’s long and barbarous history of genocide against Kurds, Christians, and all kinds of people who now wish her ill. Turkey owns a legacy of more than five centuries of monstrous dealings which have fomented wars and made enemies far and wide." -The actions of the Ottoman Empire don't particulary concern me, since the Republic of Turkey has taken a decidedly different line in the past 85 years. Not to say that Turkey doesn't discriminate against the Kurds, but it's not something to mention in the same breath as the conflicts in Turkey's distant past. And why is Turkey's distant past relevant to this article anyway? It's not like it makes the PKK's actions less objectionable. "Secular Turkey played a role in resisting Communism in the region, but and increasingly Islamic Turkey is proving to be another hideous nation posing as a US ally." That "increasingly Islamic Turkey" refuses to allow the Muslim headscarf in their universities and is threatening to ban the AKP for attempting to lift that restriction. If you're going to worry about Islam in the Middle East, I'd say Turkey is the LAST country you should be looking at. If anything, I'd say they're overly paranoid about Islam in Turkey, except that said paranoia is what has kept Turkey from becoming another Iran. "I will never forget her treachery in the sleazy scuttling the 4th ID at the opening of Iraq War2." Funny that you mention that...since Turkey's recalcitrance in 2003 was based on fear that certain groups would instigate Kurdish secession in southern Turkey when Iraq's Kurds got freed, the PKK being one of those groups. The US could get Turkey as an ally, or it could get the northern Kurds as an ally. We took the Kurds. Claire:
I’d guess that Reuters doesn’t want to impede the image of northern Iraq as a safe haven under the control of the benevolent Kurdish, upon which Turkey is violently intruding. I don’t have the relevant context to see if that’s true, but that sleazy motive would explain the sleazy action.

Morton Doodslag:
“We see here the evil admixture of communistic and Islamic hideousness, and these remain unmentioned in Reuters, but also in Claire’s diatribe against the PKK.”

-Whose communism and “Islamic hideousness” are you talking about and why is it necessary for either to be mentioned?

“Also unmentioned: Turkey’s long and barbarous history of genocide against Kurds, Christians, and all kinds of people who now wish her ill. Turkey owns a legacy of more than five centuries of monstrous dealings which have fomented wars and made enemies far and wide.”

-The actions of the Ottoman Empire don’t particulary concern me, since the Republic of Turkey has taken a decidedly different line in the past 85 years. Not to say that Turkey doesn’t discriminate against the Kurds, but it’s not something to mention in the same breath as the conflicts in Turkey’s distant past. And why is Turkey’s distant past relevant to this article anyway? It’s not like it makes the PKK’s actions less objectionable.

“Secular Turkey played a role in resisting Communism in the region, but and increasingly Islamic Turkey is proving to be another hideous nation posing as a US ally.”

That “increasingly Islamic Turkey” refuses to allow the Muslim headscarf in their universities and is threatening to ban the AKP for attempting to lift that restriction. If you’re going to worry about Islam in the Middle East, I’d say Turkey is the LAST country you should be looking at. If anything, I’d say they’re overly paranoid about Islam in Turkey, except that said paranoia is what has kept Turkey from becoming another Iran.

“I will never forget her treachery in the sleazy scuttling the 4th ID at the opening of Iraq War2.”

Funny that you mention that…since Turkey’s recalcitrance in 2003 was based on fear that certain groups would instigate Kurdish secession in southern Turkey when Iraq’s Kurds got freed, the PKK being one of those groups. The US could get Turkey as an ally, or it could get the northern Kurds as an ally. We took the Kurds.

]]> By: Morton Doodslag http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84008 Morton Doodslag Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:05:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84008 We see here the evil admixture of communistic and Islamic hideousness, and these remain unmentioned in Reuters, but also in Claire's diatribe against the PKK. Also unmentioned: Turkey's long and barbarous history of genocide against Kurds, Christians, and all kinds of people who now wish her ill. Turkey owns a legacy of more than five centuries of monstrous dealings which have fomented wars and made enemies far and wide. Secular Turkey played a role in resisting Communism in the region, but and increasingly Islamic Turkey is proving to be another hideous nation posing as a US ally. I will never forget her treachery in the sleazy scuttling the 4th ID at the opening of Iraq War2. We see here the evil admixture of communistic and Islamic hideousness, and these remain unmentioned in Reuters, but also in Claire’s diatribe against the PKK. Also unmentioned: Turkey’s long and barbarous history of genocide against Kurds, Christians, and all kinds of people who now wish her ill. Turkey owns a legacy of more than five centuries of monstrous dealings which have fomented wars and made enemies far and wide. Secular Turkey played a role in resisting Communism in the region, but and increasingly Islamic Turkey is proving to be another hideous nation posing as a US ally. I will never forget her treachery in the sleazy scuttling the 4th ID at the opening of Iraq War2.

]]> By: kabud http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84003 kabud Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:56:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-84003 O Claire! Much respect! I know you from interviews with Jeff Nyquist: listened to them number of times. You give a unique insight on the subject. Must locate your books and read. Now i am going to read this article- just saw your name and rushed to express respect and gratuitude. By the way: a very interesting piece with Jeff from yesteday, you will appreciate. Lots of things you pointed out before are discussed here(audio recording): http://xyu.livejournal.com/668474.html or here is another link in case that one is not working: http://xyu.livejournal.com/668203.html Would be very nice to have a symposium with you and Jeff together. You have unique first hand knowledge on the situation in the region, so we would very much like to ask you questions and find out your opinion on several specific subjects respectfully Serge Kabud O Claire! Much respect!

I know you from interviews with Jeff Nyquist: listened to them number of times.

You give a unique insight on the subject.

Must locate your books and read.

Now i am going to read this article- just saw your name and rushed to express respect and gratuitude.

By the way: a very interesting piece with Jeff from yesteday, you will appreciate. Lots of things you pointed out before are discussed here(audio recording):
http://xyu.livejournal.com/668474.html
or here is another link in case that one is not working:
http://xyu.livejournal.com/668203.html

Would be very nice to have a symposium with you and Jeff together.

You have unique first hand knowledge on the situation in the region, so we would very much like to ask you questions and find out your opinion on several specific subjects

respectfully

Serge Kabud

]]> By: william (not a prince) http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-83974 william (not a prince) Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:48:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-83974 Reporters like Lincoln Steffens and Upton Sinclair were able to look beyond the valley of civil war and famine in Russia to see the worker's paradise in the upland meadows. To date no one has ever mocked their insane bad judgement. Your criticism is apt, but it will here die a quiet death. The Reuters reporter will go on to win a Pulitzer Prize. Reporters like Lincoln Steffens and Upton Sinclair were able to look beyond the valley of civil war and famine in Russia to see the worker’s paradise in the upland meadows. To date no one has ever mocked their insane bad judgement. Your criticism is apt, but it will here die a quiet death. The Reuters reporter will go on to win a Pulitzer Prize.

]]> By: ZEITGEIST http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-83940 ZEITGEIST Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:00:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-83940 [...] CLAIRE BERLINSKI: Reuters Whitewashes Terrorism in Turkey. [...] [...] CLAIRE BERLINSKI: Reuters Whitewashes Terrorism in Turkey. [...]

]]> By: Cannonshop http://pjmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-83879 Cannonshop Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:46:15 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reuters-whitewashes-terrorism-in-turkey/#comment-83879 Why? because the PKK are COMMUNISTS. You know, "Fellow Travellers", "Progressives", what ever sick, deranged euphamism is popular this year for believers in the left-wing version of totalitarian horror. I sometimes wonder if Western Journos only noticed Pol Pot because he allegedly got funding from the CIA, not because his regime in Cambodia killed over a million people-had he been a Soviet puppet, they'd probably have ignored him as thoroughly as they did Czeaucescu, as completely as they do Mugabe, and as completely as they do the regime in BURMA. I usually prefer to chalk to the side of assuming incompetence rather than malice, but when there's a pattern (and there IS a pattern-the MSM and Reuters try to pretend the FARC isn't killing villagers for non-cooperation in Columbia, and we can't forget how easy it is for Reuters and other outlets to pretend nobody's firing rockets from the Palestinian Authority into Israel...) Malice, Claire, it's malice-the PKK hates an American Ally and embraces the Socialist Worker's Utopia (Communism), ergo, they're "good guys" in Reuters' view, just as they are in the eyes of most of the Media world-wide. Why? because the PKK are COMMUNISTS. You know, “Fellow Travellers”, “Progressives”, what ever sick, deranged euphamism is popular this year for believers in the left-wing version of totalitarian horror. I sometimes wonder if Western Journos only noticed Pol Pot because he allegedly got funding from the CIA, not because his regime in Cambodia killed over a million people-had he been a Soviet puppet, they’d probably have ignored him as thoroughly as they did Czeaucescu, as completely as they do Mugabe, and as completely as they do the regime in BURMA.
I usually prefer to chalk to the side of assuming incompetence rather than malice, but when there’s a pattern (and there IS a pattern-the MSM and Reuters try to pretend the FARC isn’t killing villagers for non-cooperation in Columbia, and we can’t forget how easy it is for Reuters and other outlets to pretend nobody’s firing rockets from the Palestinian Authority into Israel…) Malice, Claire, it’s malice-the PKK hates an American Ally and embraces the Socialist Worker’s Utopia (Communism), ergo, they’re “good guys” in Reuters’ view, just as they are in the eyes of most of the Media world-wide.

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