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		<title>By: Bill R.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/relax-the-north-korean-nuke-was-another-dud/#comment-278115</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey neverquit,

FDR said that in 1932, not 1942 after Pearl Harbor. It was aboujt the Great Depression, not WW2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey neverquit,</p>
<p>FDR said that in 1932, not 1942 after Pearl Harbor. It was aboujt the Great Depression, not WW2.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred2</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/relax-the-north-korean-nuke-was-another-dud/#comment-277729</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few people still seem to doubt that Iran is working on nuclear weapons.

Satellites are launched with liquid-fuel rockets (Saturn, Atlas, Ariane, Energia, and so on).   Nukes are launched with military rockets, which are solid fueled whenever possible (Minuteman, Peacekeeper, SS-20, Scud, even the Qassam).

The exceptions are few: There are just a few liquid fuel weapons rockets, including the German V1 and V2 of 60 years ago.  And the space shuttle launches with a hybrid. 

Iran has a vibrant and robust program of long-range surface-to-surface solid fuel rockets.  They are &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; useful for launching nuclear weapons. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/hticbm/articles/20090527.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this Strategy Page article&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few people still seem to doubt that Iran is working on nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>Satellites are launched with liquid-fuel rockets (Saturn, Atlas, Ariane, Energia, and so on).   Nukes are launched with military rockets, which are solid fueled whenever possible (Minuteman, Peacekeeper, SS-20, Scud, even the Qassam).</p>
<p>The exceptions are few: There are just a few liquid fuel weapons rockets, including the German V1 and V2 of 60 years ago.  And the space shuttle launches with a hybrid. </p>
<p>Iran has a vibrant and robust program of long-range surface-to-surface solid fuel rockets.  They are <i>only</i> useful for launching nuclear weapons. See <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/hticbm/articles/20090527.aspx" rel="nofollow">this Strategy Page article</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: neverquit</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/relax-the-north-korean-nuke-was-another-dud/#comment-276314</link>
		<dc:creator>neverquit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20. tovarish:
&quot;The only thing to fear is fear itself (FDR) is true today as it was in 1942.&quot;

FDR said that after the most devastating attack on our Navy ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20. tovarish:<br />
&#8220;The only thing to fear is fear itself (FDR) is true today as it was in 1942.&#8221;</p>
<p>FDR said that after the most devastating attack on our Navy ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Avitar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not relax!  The NK have failed again but they restarted a reactor to make Plutonium. This is vastly easier to refine than the extraction of uranium 235.  They may not succeed yet but nukes really are not that hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not relax!  The NK have failed again but they restarted a reactor to make Plutonium. This is vastly easier to refine than the extraction of uranium 235.  They may not succeed yet but nukes really are not that hard.</p>
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		<title>By: HonestJon</title>
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		<dc:creator>HonestJon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, the article (while a good article) misses the point.  The NK&#039;s are trying to build a bomb and maybe (a big maybe) are not having as much success as they were hoping for.  It is their intent which is the whole point.  Even if the latest blast was a dud, which is arguable, make no mistake that they are getting closer all the time.  Additionally, they&#039;ve recently fired up a reactor to make more Plutonium for more bombs.  And even if the latest attempt was a dud it still is not to be questioned what the result would be if it exploded over a city.

Personally, I don&#039;t believe that the NK&#039;s will ever nuke anybody except in self defense.  I think they are just wanting to use it as a bargaining chip and a deterrent.  Further, I just don&#039;t buy that the generals in the NK military would use such a device on a whim-or even if Mr. Kim ordered it without a lot of serious consideration.  I think a coup would be much more likely in that instance.  Let&#039;s face the fact that-contrary to media reports-Kim is not crazy.  He&#039;s managed to thwart every sort of sanctions and talks, stall for time to develop the technology further, and remain in power for a number of years while controlling the military.  He&#039;s not going to nuke anybody.  It&#039;s all a game.  It plays well to the nationalism that&#039;s inherent in North Korea.

The real problem is that he could sell this technology-or even finished weapons-to non-state actors or even Iran.  That having been said, if Iran got the bomb (even from Kim) would it nuke Israel?  Not likely, IMHO.  The Iranians are not crazy either.  They know that Israel would completely wipe them out with their nukes.  Again, it&#039;s for self preservation and deterrence, not offensive war.  I don&#039;t really blame either regime for wanting the ability to deter the US or Israel from military strikes.  I further think that President Bush&#039;s policy of preemptory war had the exact opposite effect that was intended-it scared the crap out of Iran and NK to the point of them needing a nuclear deterrent.  I could be wrong.  Iran could nuke Israel.  I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s likely.

If Al Qaeda gets hold of one, though, it means big trouble.

regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the article (while a good article) misses the point.  The NK&#8217;s are trying to build a bomb and maybe (a big maybe) are not having as much success as they were hoping for.  It is their intent which is the whole point.  Even if the latest blast was a dud, which is arguable, make no mistake that they are getting closer all the time.  Additionally, they&#8217;ve recently fired up a reactor to make more Plutonium for more bombs.  And even if the latest attempt was a dud it still is not to be questioned what the result would be if it exploded over a city.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t believe that the NK&#8217;s will ever nuke anybody except in self defense.  I think they are just wanting to use it as a bargaining chip and a deterrent.  Further, I just don&#8217;t buy that the generals in the NK military would use such a device on a whim-or even if Mr. Kim ordered it without a lot of serious consideration.  I think a coup would be much more likely in that instance.  Let&#8217;s face the fact that-contrary to media reports-Kim is not crazy.  He&#8217;s managed to thwart every sort of sanctions and talks, stall for time to develop the technology further, and remain in power for a number of years while controlling the military.  He&#8217;s not going to nuke anybody.  It&#8217;s all a game.  It plays well to the nationalism that&#8217;s inherent in North Korea.</p>
<p>The real problem is that he could sell this technology-or even finished weapons-to non-state actors or even Iran.  That having been said, if Iran got the bomb (even from Kim) would it nuke Israel?  Not likely, IMHO.  The Iranians are not crazy either.  They know that Israel would completely wipe them out with their nukes.  Again, it&#8217;s for self preservation and deterrence, not offensive war.  I don&#8217;t really blame either regime for wanting the ability to deter the US or Israel from military strikes.  I further think that President Bush&#8217;s policy of preemptory war had the exact opposite effect that was intended-it scared the crap out of Iran and NK to the point of them needing a nuclear deterrent.  I could be wrong.  Iran could nuke Israel.  I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s likely.</p>
<p>If Al Qaeda gets hold of one, though, it means big trouble.</p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/relax-the-north-korean-nuke-was-another-dud/#comment-274762</link>
		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>once you&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forward.com/articles/13388/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abandoned your morals&lt;/a&gt;, anything&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once you&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/13388/" rel="nofollow">abandoned your morals</a>, anything&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean, how can israelis, in good conscience, touch off a 50 kiloton nuke in manhattan or tel aviv if the iranians dont have nukes and the north korean nukes are duds, and so cant be blamed for a nuke attack on anyone?

but maybe it would be better if the israelis did a false flag dud, rather than a full-tilt blast, huh? ...given the proven effectiveness of the media, even a dud could be blown up into an excuse to nuke iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean, how can israelis, in good conscience, touch off a 50 kiloton nuke in manhattan or tel aviv if the iranians dont have nukes and the north korean nukes are duds, and so cant be blamed for a nuke attack on anyone?</p>
<p>but maybe it would be better if the israelis did a false flag dud, rather than a full-tilt blast, huh? &#8230;given the proven effectiveness of the media, even a dud could be blown up into an excuse to nuke iran.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nobody can come up with evidence of iran&#039;s nuke weapons program, so caroline has to go off on this north korean tangent, in which north korea supplies iran with bombs iran can use in attacks on... israel? ...america? ...what&#039;s the difference.

but now we got this dingbat badmouthing north korea&#039;s nukes.

get with the program, mr tipler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobody can come up with evidence of iran&#8217;s nuke weapons program, so caroline has to go off on this north korean tangent, in which north korea supplies iran with bombs iran can use in attacks on&#8230; israel? &#8230;america? &#8230;what&#8217;s the difference.</p>
<p>but now we got this dingbat badmouthing north korea&#8217;s nukes.</p>
<p>get with the program, mr tipler.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Relax, the North Korean Nuke Was Another Dud&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

not good news for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1243346492707&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;caroline glick&lt;/a&gt;, who&#039;s trying to establish a connection between north korea&#039;s nukes and iran... in preparation, i spose, for the &lt;i&gt;new&lt;/i&gt; &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=PNAC+%22new+pearl+harbor%22&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new pearl harbor&lt;/a&gt;&quot; that some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=neocons+want+OR+need+another+9%2F11&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;neocons want&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;Relax, the North Korean Nuke Was Another Dud&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>not good news for <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1243346492707&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">caroline glick</a>, who&#8217;s trying to establish a connection between north korea&#8217;s nukes and iran&#8230; in preparation, i spose, for the <i>new</i> &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=PNAC+%22new+pearl+harbor%22&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=" rel="nofollow">new pearl harbor</a>&#8221; that some <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=neocons+want+OR+need+another+9%2F11&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=" rel="nofollow">neocons want</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Charm School</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charm School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Trinity Test in 1945 actually occurred near Alamogordo, New Mexico.
The Nevada nuclear test sites were not established until after the end of WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Trinity Test in 1945 actually occurred near Alamogordo, New Mexico.<br />
The Nevada nuclear test sites were not established until after the end of WWII.</p>
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