Register … or Rebel: How Many New Yorkers Will Defy New Law?
As draconian, ill-advised, and possibly unconstitutional as the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (NY SAFE) anti-gun law was when it was hastily signed into law, it might have been far worse — this according to a New York legislator who fought against the bill.
Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin has released documentation showing rejected Democratic proposals for the NY SAFE Act. They included these:
- Confiscation of all firearms arbitrarily redefined as “assault weapons”
- Labeling semi-automatic shotguns as “assault weapons” if they can hold more than five rounds or have a pistol-grip stock
- Confiscation of 10-round magazines
- Limiting the number of rounds in a magazine to five; magazines of greater capacity to be confiscated
- Limiting number of magazines in possession to two
- Mandatory microstamping of all guns in NY state
- Statewide database of all guns
- Limiting guns purchases to one per month
- Allowing a pistol permit database to be released to the public
- Relicensing of all pistol permit owners
- Renewal of all pistol permits every five years
There were more.
Assemblyman McLaughlin explained the intent of his Democrat colleagues in Albany on his campaign site:
Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin (R, C, I-Melrose) today revealed a 15-point anti-Second Amendment wish list that Democrats lobbied to be included in the final New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (NY SAFE) Act. McLaughlin called the list the “second phase” of a gun-grab agenda targeting responsible firearm owners that downstate politicians have been supporting for years.
“First the new gun-control bill made criminals out of law-abiding New Yorkers. And the radical, anti-Second Amendment proposals outlined in this wish list suggest the second phase of the plan: confiscation,” said McLaughlin. “When downstate politicians criminalize responsible gun ownership, they only empower criminals.”
The rejected proposals seem to mirror — at least in part — the desires of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who had publicly entertained gun confiscation and forced buybacks.
Left/liberals want to take away our guns for the same reason King Geogre III did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_Alarm
And after that…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord
Exactly. And isn’t it funny how in high school or college history classes they never said exactly why Paul Revere was racing through town screaming that the British were coming? Why were the British coming? To confiscate the colonists guns, naturally. Can’t have a bunch of liberty-minded, self-sufficient gun owners in an authoritarian regime, can you?
Exactly. And isn’t it funny how in high school or college history classes they never said exactly why Paul Revere was racing through town screaming that the British were coming? Why were the British coming? To confiscate the colonists guns, naturally. Can’t have a bunch of liberty-minded, self-sufficient gun owners in an authoritarian regime, can you?
Glad to hear Cuomo and the other folk up ther who would be Big Brother are telepgraphing their “second phase” desire for confiscation.
“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA– ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.” –Heinrich Himmler
Herr Himmler’s comment pegs the liberal fascist agenda for gun confiscation: :it doesn’t serve the state”
Left/liberals really seem to envy all those rallies, stylish uniforms and power the nazis had, too.
Obama’s recent inauguration was just such a rally, except without the uniforms. You could just hear the worshippers thinking “Heil Obama”.
There is one aspect of the Nazi regime that our Left will never go along with: the awarding of the several ranks of the Mutterkreuz. Their position is that, since we are all Untermenschen, there should be no limit to abortion whatever. Above all, the country should be Schwarzenrein, by abortion or murder.
The Demographics created by prohibition has a lot to do with that situation.
Obama now has his own SS, called DHS. And while he and the rest of the National Socialist party is busy taking away our own Ar-15s, at the same time they are arming up by purchasing seven thousand full auto M-16s. (for use right here at home) No mention of who the government plans to SHOOT here in the motherland with all those guns.
http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_assault_weapons_documents.html
Yawn.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/americans-buy-enough-guns-in-last-two-months-to-outfit-the-entire-chinese-and-indian-army/
Come and get them.
The actions of the American public the past 5 years in regards to gun and ammo purchases do not indicate a populace that has any intention of disarming
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/27/homeland-security-seeking-7000-assault-weapons-per/
I like how one in one of the articles the DHS considers the AR-15 a “personal defensive weapon.”
Its funny that it is a defensive weapon in their hands but an assault weapon in ours.
NY will pull the same slight of hand California did. First register them, then confiscate them.
“New York has estimated that there are one million firearms that fit their new definition of an “assault weapon,” and they are concerned that a large number of citizens will rip the teeth out of the law by simply refusing to register their arms.”
If you use your now illegal unregistered weapon to defend your home or person–even against an upstate bear or wolf, you will find yourself in the same courthouse as a human assailant. You will be an easy target for police prosecution. Those advocating gun registry will applaud. The law will appear to have done its purpose.
There’s a saying concerning shooting wolves in self-defense, and in protection of herds: shoot, shovel, and shut up.
While it won’t work as well for someone breaking into your home, it does leave me thinking that there can be something equivalent in New York.
It should also be kept in mind that when it comes to self defense, even the people of New York State aren’t all that happy when a prosecutor goes after someone who rightly defended the their life, and the lives of their family–even when the gun used was illegal.
This is a real possibility: ripped from Primordial Slack
“What was the legend that the hapless political wonk invoked a year or so ago? The Romans would roll into town and crucify the first five people they laid hands on and then they’d have little trouble from the rest of the proles? Something like that.
Over at Pat Dollard’s place there is a fine sentiment showing manly, warrior support for Ted Nugent’s “Concord Bridge” comment. I love it. But much of the bravura and dispute in the comments is about firepower and armed conflict. We’re nowhere near that point yet. I think the Dumbed-down Party will allow us to keep our guns for another year or two. They still have much work to do, and many examples to set up to bring about the desired fear. And if not outright fear, then the desired sobriety of a man considering the ends of one’s actions.
However, ALL OF US are already being made examples. Daily we comply with all sorts of indignities and insults to our sovereign sense of human rights. We answer intrusive questions, we suffer molestation in public by the TSA, we sigh at bureaucratic sand in our economic gears.
But here’s the thing: Obama won’t send an army, he’ll send your neighbor, the one with the IRS job. Or you’ll try to travel and a local NHS satrap will show up to investigate you, express serious doubts about your online comments, and ask you to get in his car, quietly please, as your wife and kids look on– and your neighbors whisper, “I always thought something was strange about him.” Some municipal quisling will bring four or five officers and arrest you for making a video, or for refusing a smart-meter on your home. You will be shamed in the local paper, not the New York Times.
Death-or-glory charges are for the fresh young recruits. Cannon fodder, sadly. But their story comes long after the thousand paper-cuts of the Diktat. The apparatchiks are your neighbors. And you won’t raise a gun to the man with whom you’ve shared a meal.
If Solzhenitzyn’s “how we burned in the camps later” essay doesn’t WAKEN us to the fact that it’s not “them” but it’s folks right here, next door in our communities, then we are doomed to lose this country. You have friends with public sector jobs who can’t afford to lose them. Hell, the garbage collector doesn’t want to lose his job. He’ll report you for not recycling if it’s required of him. Nice people will unwind the strands of liberty one “concern” at a time.
Brave talk, this idea of forming a militia to counter such tactics. But they’ll never use the tactics you’re imagining. It won’t be a bang, it’ll be a whimper. Freedom is fragile, and it’s lost one city block at a time. One tax return at a time. One example at a time.
Addendum: I say all this to illustrate the immediate need to communicate, in real space, with your neighbors and family. To speak up, loudly if necessary, at community events and city hall meetings. Win hearts and minds NOW. Speak up NOW. Count the cost, NOW.
http://primordialslack.com/?p=2683
This is the trouble with all the brave and noble sounding talk of civil unrest—it’s friends and neighbors you’re likely to deal with, not some carpet bagging political appointee from some state far away.
Abner, Abner, did you see what Mrs. Stevens did now.
@old surfer
You’ve got it nailed. One arresty at a time- not even custodial arrest, just a ticket you have to answer. One “interview” at a time, “You’re not in any trouble, we just need to know..” One local election at a time, “Oh, sorry George, your nomination petition wasn’t in the proper form. Only our guy will be on the ballot.”
But. They’re in a hurry; their time has come. They don’t want to risk another election, or need to get their law in place before any election. Mistakes get made when you’re in a hurry, like this over-reaching NY law.
When they overstep, they need to be confronted. Now, while nothing’s nailed down yet. Now, before the fear gets too deep; while there is still access to courts and public opinion. Now, on the little stuff as well as the big stuff, before the momentum leads to a choice only between violence or submission.
“Arrest”, not “arresty”. Only semester D I got in HS was in typing.
I’ve had commenters on this post elsewhere doubting that there is still time. There’s still time, and thanks for helping to make that point.
The scenario you describe is xxx by taking out Federal facilities and civilian vehicles with Gatorade bottles of E85…we must remain environmentally conscious.
There are about 3.5 million “fighters”, some young, some old, prepared to wage an insurgent war against the Marxist cabal.
Most have been planning to defend the Constitution since the name Obama hit the streets; we knew who he was by his friends and words.
He is the greatest gun and ammo salesman in the history of the Nation; and they weren’t bought for shooting skeet.
Just remember, the most effective weapon on the insurgent battlefield is the scout sniper.
Wolverines!
III/0317
It’s already in effect. Teachers are required by law to report not only to the school admiinstration but the police any incident where a child might be abused. This includes any injuries a child has sustained, like bruises for example, or anything a child says in their hearing. So if a kid says “Mom and Dad hit me” in the hearing of a teacher expect a visit from the police and/or social services.
However, ALL OF US are already being made examples. Daily we comply with all sorts of indignities and insults to our sovereign sense of human rights.
Pee in the bottle to get a job.
I live in CA…..and no one has taken my guns…..and they never will….
Dear Readers…..
Something is terribly missing in all of this hyper-comment about there being say, one m i l l i o n eligible weapons in New York State alone…..and that is logistics…logistics…logistics….how, in fact, are these one m i l l i o n guns going to be collected?….physically….by the National Guard or the State and local police Officers?…going house to house, apartment to apartment, rural cabin to cabin….setting up road blocks and checkpoints as the cellphones start vibrating, “MAN! they’re a-comin’ yer way now!…I just SEEN the convoy on the Interstate!”
….then, what about the other forty nine states?
Gun confiscation took place in Canada and Australia. Registration of firearms was required to make the confiscation work though.
Of course, there’s just a little difference between the U.S., Canada, and Australia.
As of last year, Canada has a population of 34,482,779 according to their own Bureau of Census. Of this number, a bit over 1/10 of the U.S. population (315 million and some change), over 29.5 million, or about 80% of the total, live in the urban areas of Quebec, Ontario, Alberta, and British Columbia, with Quebec and Ontario accounting for over 20 million all by themselves.
As for Down Under, their last census showed 22,885,049 Aussies, with 16.5 million of them living in New South Wales, Victoria, and Queensland, again mainly in urban centers.
With this sort of population concentrated in streets and alleys, a government of an authoritarian turn of mind can just about cordon off a block and go house to house knocking on doors to confiscate practically anything, never mind guns. Although I notice neither country is making any great effort to do anything about drugs. But then, getting roached, bonged, and/or ripped is politically correct.
The fact that Democrats and other “progressives” here are determined to make everybody live in major cities, ostensibly to leave as much of “Holy Mother Gaia” as pristine as possible, should tell you what at least part of their motivation is.
And it isn’t to do you a service.
clear ether
eon
We Canadians messed with the registration scheme to no end, we registered fictitious items, including soldering irons, glue gun, water pistols, one enterprising fellow even registered his Jack Russell Terrier. Another thing we did, was bomb the system with hundreds of thousands phoning, e-mailing etc at the same time. The on-line system was hacked over 350 times with public access points of entry. In the end, less than 30% of the Canadian long guns ever made it into the database.. However the dog did..
What a great idea!
Where did you get the 30%? Did your news media ever report on the database shennigans or did you find out throught the blog world? I didn’t hear anything of the Canadian database “problems.”
Jennine, Import records show that there were roughly 21 million firearms imported into Canada since 1950, this does not include the domestic production of several Canadian manufacturers, in which 1 company, Cooey, produced over 1.2 million gins. This also discounts the single importing of things like war trophies, purchases from the US, European countries by individuals. The best that the Firearms Center was ever able to brag about, was about 7 million guns, this includes the handguns, which have been registered since 1934. There were over 350 illegal access’s into the database recorded that were known, by the federal government, it is unknown just how many were never identified. The federal database was also used as a shopping list by criminals, on several occasions, after illegal access, which resulted in thefts of firearms collections. In total, the failure of the Firearms act, destroyed 2 political parties, the Progressive Conservatives and the Liberal party.. The supposed media did do some articles, however until recently the entire Canadian media was essentially a Canadian version of the WP and MSNBC. Recent startup of some Canadian Conservative media is on this issue, like white on rice.. its kinda funny watching the old MSM playing catchup..
That Canadians resisted so thoroughly and so successfully is heartening. Californians did likewise: When “assault weapons” were banned , only 30% of those owning them complies and turned them in. If New Yorkers follow the example set by Canadians and Californians, then the gun control fanatics might buy a clue and back off: If Canadians, Californians, and New Yorkers won’t comply with a gun ban/confiscation law, then why in %^$% would you think midwesterns would? Southerners? The folks in places like MT, WY, AK, where firearms are even more of a necessity than in the midwest or the south? (We have coyotes, foxes, and black bears here…No wolves, grizzlies, or kodiaks. We are just starting to get the MO department of conservation to admit that yes, there are cougars here, and their numbers appear to be growing. While I am happy to live in a state with so much wildlife, I am even happier to know I can go hiking with less fear of being eaten.)
Angry, Jennine, one thing we did have fun with,,,, the guy that registered his Jack Russell, claimed it mounted legs… We kept pestering any of the anti-gun crowd, if he should be, either an Insult or Assault weapon … They didn’t think it was funny
Robins, you left off the happy ending.
You Canucks so completely resisted the long gun registry that the even those Canadians initially in favor voted to -dismantle- it after a decade and millions of wasted dollars.
In the process you also got the government (RCMP) to admit in testimony that neither the long gun registry nor the much more complete and better complied with handgun registry had been used to solve enven one crime.
All that time and money and zero positive effect on public safety or crime rates. The same facts are true with every state-level registry in the US. Effectively no crimes solved for al that time, effort, and expense.
It’s also happened right here in America. The state of California and the cities of New York and New Orleans have all confiscated weapons in the past. And you’re right, registration is a necessecary first step.
That is a very good reason not to register your gun. I never saw a problem with gun registration until now. I never thought that government officials would seriously consider confiscating the guns of law-abiding citizens. Obviously, we have crossed a line with the current nutjobs in power.
My bet is a number of folks here in NY won’t even know that their guns need to be registered….how do I know this? I asked.
You must not be aware of what happened around New Orleans after hurricane Katrina.
The Mayor and the Chief of Police gave the order that all private arms must be turned in. Whenever the police, Sheriff, or National Guard troops ran into armed people, they took their guns. These were all from law abiding people. Nearly everyone was so shocked they handed them over without resisting. (Of course, when your own law enforcement is pointing THEIR guns at you, it can help make that decision.)
The guns were not properly logged or stored, with many of the nice ones “disappearing”, and the others left to rust. Some folks did eventually get their guns returned, but in a condition to make them almost worthless.
The thing is, this “worked” because folks were caught by surprise. No one seriously thought it could happen. It did. Since then, a lot of folks have given some serious thought to what they would do differently, and I doubt that any gun confiscation _now_ would go as well for the authorities as it did after Katrina.
What other purpose would it serve? Registered weapons can still be stolen, sold on the black market, used in crimes.
Exactly.
So, why on earth would ANYBODY comply with voluntary registration of their guns? The ONLY reason for registration is so that the State will know where they are when they decide to confiscate. WHY would you volunteer that information?
bingo
Exactly. You can shoot somebody just as easily with a registered gun as you can with an unregistered one. Just what advantage is there in terms of deterring illegal activity or determining the identity of the shooter of a gun?
No. There are setting it up for later confiscation or punitive taxation that would make gun ownership too expensive for the common person.
That female whack-job in government, Feinstein, wants also to charge people’s whose guns were stolen and used in a crime to be held responsible for said crime.
Tell me that isn’t tortured logic.
They were only about 20% effective in their confiscation schemes…by their own stats.
Expect the loudest supporter of the 2nd Amendment in NY to be arrested shortly after the registration deadline. The far left thinks it is immune from blow back and all powerful now.
Those at the state level will have the backing of the Feds to enforce procedural bands and/or confiscation.
I pause thinking of what the endgame might entail.
….heh…heh….keep on remembering things….the dollar cost of this brand new looming enforcement of these new registration/physical confiscation procedure(s) probably will have to be supported by a tax increase. Added state employees? Now, is this a sales tax?… on what items?…. where is it assessed?….. will it have a time limit?…say ending when all of these feral guns are accounted for…. state-wide…then, who determines exactly when this job is completed?
I’m not trying to be snarky here; the point I’m trying to make is if we just sit down and think for a while, it should be seen that this whole thing about lefty gun-CONTROL is so ‘effing’ impractical in 2013 as to be almost, almost, as silly as the “issue” [pun alert] of gender neutrality or equality. These State Senators simply are not thinking.
Attention, all of you Annie Oakley’s out there! Let’s hear from you! Equal opportunity!
These busy-busy-busy politicians are spinning their wheels…only wanting to be seen as “doing something”. Shallow political correctness.
Here you touch on something that applies to all of the Democrats’ big-government ambitions. Back in the 1930s government was full of smart, well-educated and well-trained people who knew what they were doing when it came time to organize FDR’s regulation and relief programs. Now, after many years of affirmative action government hires and the rapid decline in quality of public education, not so much. Obama’s desire to be the second coming of FDR will crack up on this fact, that the competent government worker bees needed to do what he wants don’t exist any more. As time goes by all the slavishly friendly media in the world won’t be enough to hide this bureaucratic fecklessness. Watch, for example, how the growing SNAFU of Obamacare starts to become apparent when its requirements begin to kick in …
It’s not just lack of competent personnel, by the way — the stupidity is built into the system. When, for example, FDR wanted to build the Hoover dam, he just got Congress to pass the appropriation, told government bureaucrats to hire the builders, and away they went. Nowadays, after Congress acts, you have environmental impact statements followed by campaigns to mobilize public opinion, followed by Court battles over what the final decision should be — and this is before one shovel gets stuck into the ground…
They knew where they were going, all right. See Liberal Fascism, which details the links between Wilson’s and (FD) Roosevelt’s adminstrations. All the big New Dealers were retreads from Wilson’s administration, including FDR himself. If you want to see how American statism took power and began its Long March, start with Wilson’s administration.
Mussolini, who coined the term, defined fascism as, “Everything inside the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.” Until it became embarassing as the 1930s unfolded, a great many opinion leaders in the US were unstintingly vocal in their praise of Il Duce.
Yes, the trains running on time — but also every progressive/Democrat looked with longing at Mussolini’s ability to militarize society because that was their goal too. Armies of human subjects marching to the order of wise bureaucrats.
FDR had nothing to do with Hoover Dam…other than changing the name to Boulder Dam after it was finished…which was changed back to Hoover Dam in 1947.
Don’t you think a lady is sooooooooooo sexy with a pocket Derringer near her ………..?
YES!!!!!
Ooh. Izzat a .45 in your pocket?
You’d think that feminists would be all about the right to bear arms, since they’re all about feminine empowerment. But noooo…it doesn’t fit the leftist narrative. Uncle Sugar must take care of us all, and no women are allowed to escape the plantation/FEMA camp.
Noo Yawk is a big state, and moves like a glacier…
They’re quite happy the law has finally been passed. Enforcement is but an afterthought, it was the PRECIDENT that was the most important hurdle for them. Count on them laying low after the “deadline”. Not a word will be spoken about it, by them or the media.
The meme will be “we’re done talking about it, it’s a done deal” and they will take their sweet time enforcing it. Because Time is on their side. The longer the law “stands” (whether its enforced or not) the stronger the precedent, the deeper its acceptance as the “norm”. They will be happy to wait a generation or more, so long as the slow rust, once implanted, keeps creeping.
They know Gun Owning Up-Staters pose no risk to society. There is no “real” Safety/Crime/ Law Enforcement imperative, or any measureable negative consequence of their lack of enforcement.
They just need The Law to stand, and will take their sweet precious time in doing anything about it.
So, count on random, low key, opportunistic enforcement for the first few years. Police calls your residence will be de-facto gun searches, and you will be (very quietly) burned for disobedience.
Loud party?
Fireworks on the 4th of July?
Any opportunity to enter a home and “stumble” upon something will be used.
The “additional” charges will be very quietly applied, without Fanfare or Martyrdom.
There will be no “Big Busts”, no confrontations, no raids on gun clubs holding “Modern Rifle” matches . They can afford to lull the non-criminals into complacency in their “defiance”, and just pick them off little by little, one at a time.
Just the occasional, Random Regular Joe getting caught up in the Gears of The Machinery, and crushed.
The law has been passed. If they leave it virtually un-enforced for a decade or two, its STILL the law.
Time is on their side.
The NRA has already filed a declaration that they intend to file a lawsuit against this bill. (Sorry, I can’t think of the correct term : Notice to file ? Letter of Intent?) Anyway, not only does the NRA and probably quite a few citizens plan to sue based on Constitutional aspects, as I understand it the bill may be invalid . It was passed without the 3 days notice and 3 days of discussion-the law isn’t in compliance with NY’s statutes on legislation. It may be a dead letter without the NRA’s or anyone else’s lawsuit.
One can almost-ALMOST-feel sorry for people like Cuomo, BHO, Feinstein…They really don’t SEE us, do they? They don’t associate with ordinary citizens, so when they deign to think of us, their mental image is across between Archie Bunker, Homer Simpson, and who knows what piece of cultural idiocy. So after the Giffords shooting, they visibly thought we’d gladly hand in our weapons. After all, THEY know their lives are more valuable than ours, so surely we agree? Didn’t happen. After 20+ kids were killed, they openly thought that would do it-and the blowback was even stronger than the 2008 Election Buying Frenzy , or after Giffords.
They just don’t get it : That no elite politician’s death, no number of children killed (How many children are killed in other parts of the world BECAUSE their parents don’t have access to firearms?), NOTHING, is going to make the citizens of this country willing to be disarmed and helpless, whether against ordinary criminals, the multiple groups of peoples preaching racial or religious hatreds (some of these are groups imported at the behest of liberal elites) or against the government. ESPECIALLY not when disarmament is being preached at us from folks with Secret Service protection or private guards.
And the Libs are happy to wait for the Supreme Court to heart these challenges.
Which will no doubt occur shortly after the Libs have appointed one or two more Liberal justices to finish the dismantling of the US Constitution.
Orion
Yes, we’ll go through the legal motions to protect ourselves against such blatantly unconstitutional actions by governments. But make no mistake about it, the Supreme Court’s ruling will only be observed if it’s in accordance with the clear and obvious meaning of the 2nd Amendment. The upshot of this entire discussion is that the Supreme Court is no longer viewed as the ultimate arbiter of constitutionality by many of us. I can read and understand it perfectly well, and if the entire federal (and NY state) government decide to lie to us and ignore our Constitutionally-protected rights, well, it’ll be time to replace that (those) governments with one(s) that follow the clear meaning of the Constitution. And I’m not talking about the ballot box.
The final word on what the Constitution means is the people. If the USSC says something stupid, their ruling will be ignored.
Eight men died at Lexington because they thought the king’s law unjust.
I’d even be willing to listen if ever I had heard a gun control proposal that had the slightest chance of preventing crimes – and mass shootings. Instead they all look like this one. At best cosmetic, at worst a dire threat to our 2nd amendment rights. The law only affects the law abiding.
I hope so…
We saw what happened in Katrina, all the “onesie-twosie” confiscations and no real resistance.
Thats what they count on….
The good white folk in the Suburbs have too much to lose getting into pissing contests with The State.
I actually hope their is open revolt and blooshed over this, I really do.
I just dont want to be the FIRST one to do it….because I’m afraid I’ll be all alone in that.
Thats what they depend on…every single one of us afraid to be “the one”
No one wants to be in Lexington or Concord when the British are coming to take the guns. No one wants to be that guy who dies that day or gets branded a traitor and sent to prison. But sometimes that is what a man has to be.
“Expect the loudest supporter of the 2nd Amendment in NY to be arrested shortly after the registration deadline. ”
Nope. No way.
They do NOT want to give the NRA and the 2AF a good case to take to federal court.
How to catch a wild boar,one fence at a time.The farmer leaves a pile of food in the woods to attract the free range pigs.Eventually when the food is gone he comes back, builds a straight fence and leaves another pile of food.Sometime later he comes back,and finding the food gone he is glad to build another length of fence at an angle to the first.Its a long process but a process it is and after his next visit he adds more food and the third angle to the fence.The food is for free,the pig is eager for the easy meal and returns again.This will be the last free meal for the farmer completes the fence by finishing the square and traps the pig.
Seems like an awful lot of work when the farmer could just go to his neighbor’s farm and buy a pig.
Ah, but the farmer doesn’t capture A pig, he catches an entire herd.
And have you checked the price of pork these days?
The usual point is not to have a pig, but to be rid of a pest. Feral pigs are monumentally destructive.
Left to themselves, feral pigs are pests. Captured, they are meat. Lots of meat. Sold, they are money.
No, the feral pig metaphor is apt. It’s exactly how despots see their “subjects.”
Of course the ultimate solution to the pig problem is to take you .44 lever action and just shoot the damned thing.
It doesn’t matter that large numbers of gun owners will ‘rebel’, and refuse to register their firearms. That is a secondary purpose of writing the legislation. From the point of view of the ruling class, if you turn in your weapons that’s good. If you don’t, you become a criminal. If the ruling class can make you a criminal they can prosecute you as they see fit. Make your religion, your lifestyle, your race, your politics a crime, and as they feel the need to ruin you, they have a ready made excuse to do so.
It’s the same process a traffic cop uses. He observes your operation of a vehicle on the road, spots some minor violations, pulls you over, and begins a through investigation into your life, and voila, discovers serious crime, and off you go to prison.
The ruling class wants to make you dependent on them, for your job, your food, your housing, everything. If they can’t make you dependent, they will make you a criminal and incarcerate you.
Left/liberal tyranny is still tyranny… fascism with an annoying progessive bureaucratic face.
Exactly. even if you don’t comply, you are still guilty in the eyes of the law. They can still, and in NY’s case especially with mandatory minimums for sentencing on gun violations, will screw you and hard.
Exactly. Sucks to be a conservative in NY. Follow the example of us former Californians. GTFO. The grass really IS greener where you’re not persecuted. If the lawsuits fail, let the dead bury their dead.
Mister Cuomo, I will ask you what Jamaica’ socialist JLP Prime Minister was once famously asked: “What you tink you gonna do, now we-a got de guns?”
I used to wrk for a major data collection and aggregation company. With modern data systems unless you use cash for any and all weapons, ammunition, and accessories purchases the government can figure out who the gun owners are and what types of weapons they own.
Consider:
The government passes a bill requiring banks to report any credit card transactions from all kbown weapons dealers to the data companies. Those data companies aggregate all purchases by credt card number, they already know who owns the credt card, and product SKU. Easy.
Now they filter out non-weapon related SKUs and send all remaining purchase data to the relevant government agency who now will know who you are, what you bought, and can infer what type of weapon you have.
Last step, they check your name with the gun registry to see if you’ve registered the weapons or which you’ve made ammunition or accessories purchases. If not, expect a visit from the police.
My advice,
Buy only with cash if possible. Gift cards can be connected to you with just one additional step to the above.
Avoid any place that requires you to provide your name for an official record that may go to government.
Avoid gun ranges that ask for anything more than your range fee.
Move to a Red state. Unless you’re a Liberal.
“…unless you use cash for any and all weapons, ammunition, and accessories purchases the government can figure out who the gun owners are and what types of weapons they own.”
It’s actually even worse than you say. Part of the new law requires FFL holders to treat ammo sales like gun sales, with an instant background check and a record kept of who bought what. It’s going to be child’s play for them to see who’s buying .223 and 7.62×39 no matter how you pay for it. And our immediately neighboring states are just as bad, so hopping over the border to pay cash for some ammo won’t work either.
Any New Yorkers who want to keep their guns have two choices at this point: either leave for greener pastures or make up your mind to live like a criminal.
I would posit that the feds already know the location of all the weapons in question. The ATF is free to inspect all of the 4473s filled out when purchasing a weapon. I would guess that they have been going through those for years, copying the information regarding any sale of a so called “assault weapon”. Then, although illegal for them to do so, they have probably created a computer data base with all that information.
An unconstitutional law in no law at all.
Odd, that in France, the registering of weapons is law … these morons like Cuomo must be getting advice from the French. Heh!
Cuomo wants to be the face on the Big Brother poster.
The police are heavily outnumbered here. It also seems that many police won’t comply with a confiscation order. That could mean calling out the National Guard or the Regulars. Many of them probably will also not comply.
What then? Maybe recruiting street gangs to do the work? There are millions of them and maybe they would be willing in exchange for looting on the side while backed up by small, Obamabot SWAT teams.
More likely though they will use their computers to sift through online comments, browsing habits, electronic purchases, etc., to predict who owns guns, then push a few buttons to turn off their electricity, water, bank accounts, etc., until they comply.
DHS and, its most visible entity, the TSA (not mention all those left/liberal-staff gov’t agencies who bought all sorts of rifle and hollow-point pistol ammo lately)… the Nazis started the SA and SS from scratch because the army and traditional police wouldn’t support their crap.
Learn where the ammo’s stored. View those locations as resupply dumps when the time comes.
Or really neat fireworks displays.
And the SA was raised largely from street thugs with a few radicalized former soldiers who were themselves nothing but street brawlers. Once these thugs had terrorized the opposition off the streets, with government approval, they started on others like the Jews as well as helping round up guns. No doubt the police were standing close by just to make sure the citizen/victim got the idea not to fight back.
There’s a problem many of my fellow New Yorkers aren’t taking into account. I personally only know one person who has a rifle ONLY, most everyone I know with an AR also has at least one handgun. Which means they have a handgun permit, which means the government has a good place to start looking if…make that WHEN they do decide to confiscate weapons.
I’d encourage any of my neighbors who are able to do what I’m doing: vote with your feet. Go to a state that will welcome you instead of criminalize you and don’t let your state tax dollars fund this tyranny.
This is an opportunity for you, New Yorkers to vote the majority Democrats out of the State Legislature for the next election. You will not be able to vote out the NYC Democrats for obvious reasons but maybe the rest of the NYS voters will be able to do the job if they are not too attached to the government teat. (I know that unemployment is very high in NYS north of Putnam County & has been that way for many yrs.)
That’s a nice thought Jeannine, but it won’t do much good. In New York the Republicans tend to be barely a shade less liberal than the Democrats, as evidenced by how many of them supported this atrocity of a law.
They voted for it rather to stop the Dems from taking it further and released the list to let the population know what was attempted.
Yeah, right. And I bet you believe that your beagle Skippy really did go to a farm like your dad said.
In other words, using the “I voted on a bad bill to keep a worse bill from passing” is BS.
Yeah, you’re probably right. The only one in NY I have any use for is Greg Ball.
Agree. Except for upstate out in the boonies, New York– GOP or Democrat– is as neutered as a gelding.
Learn from California. New York passed the point of no return a while ago. The sheeple will not learn from history, so they have to learn from experience. It’s not going to be any fun. Your state is not the state you grew up in. They’ve made criminals out of the law-abiding. Move to a red state before they move you behind bars for exercising your rights.
WE like guns in GA. Why only the other day my neighbor shot a couple of moochers coming out of another house with someone else’s computers and stuff.
http://northdruidhills.patch.com/articles/neighbor-shoots-burglar-fleeing-merry-hills-home
Now I wouldn’t want to say that he lied about that second shot. But he does give the local teenagers shooting instruction, and he’s very good. Perhaps he was startled and his aim was off. He’s a grandfather yet!
For those young gentlemen, I’d call the whole experience salutary.
You assume the purpose was to get them to register. That would be nice, but the real benefit is that all those middle class white men hiding firearms are now felons, and prosecutorial discretion is the only thing keeping the state from crushing them, their families, and their businesses.
This is a very old song, but the Democratic Party hasn’t forgotten the tune.
Wealth confiscation and redistribution time… gotta keep those Democrat “taker” supporters happy with their bread and circuses!
Perhaps more than you know. Some gun collectors — Here! — have $ thousands tied up in guns. Fortunately I live in Texas where there will be none of this nonsense at the state level, at least for a while.
Well, folks, if you want to make a lot of money and live in a nearby state, run guns into and OUT of NY state. Not only sell guns but help NYers replace registered and stamped weapons with ones that are not. Set up a gun trading exchange. Make owning a NY registered and stamped gun a status symbol if you are not in NY.
Like most Big Blue states, NY has big time budget problems. Let them spend all their money searching cars going in and out of the state. Let Cuomo try to figure out where to get the money to be a dictator.
You know at one time, NYC officials were really P.Oed at the South. People from the big apple would go down to Florida on vacation. On the way back they would stop in SC and pick up a few cheap handguns. In NC they would pick up a case of cigarettes. And when they got home they would sell that stuff at NYC prices and pay for their trip. Imagine that same thing happening over the whole state.
And when Burt Reynolds gets out of the hospital he can make a new Smokey and the Bandit movie, headed northbound.
Let Cuomo figure out where to get the money?
With gun owners felons, it won’t be a stretch to think they’d apply forfiture laws to anyone convicted. Taxes, fines, prison time. Charge for prison, labor, etc.
He was head of department of law. They’re big time scumbags in NY. The ADA’s are so heavy handed you’d think a jaywalker was Mother Theresa’s murderer.
Sorry, this was a wrong reply to another statement.
ARRGH. No. It wasn’t.
Cult of personality and governor-for-life here we come…
What happens when all of NY learns that a sizable number of residents can ignore the law with impunity?
They learn bad law is no law. Also, it breeds a disrespect for a law and consequently those commissioned to enforce it.
This is going to be a Pandora’s Box for NY.
Good, too.
All it will take will be one confrontation between law enforcement and a fomerly-legal gun owner to turn public opinion. Just one…
Throughout history there are many examples where Registration lead to Confiscation. Some post-confiscation examples turned out to be rather deadly (i.e. Rwanda). Do not ever register a firearm, ever! Go so far as to not let friends and family know what you have, especially kids.
Register… or rebel. How many New Yorkers will Defy New law?
Not least those who pass it into law. Especially those control freaks who call themselves liberals and their subservient caring conservatives. Many already protected with their own armed security to protect them from the world they did much to create for their compatriots.
What after all is the point of membership in exclusive gentlemens’ clubs? Exemplified by Congressmen/Senators in Washington who passed “Obamacare” ACA over vociferous objections from many Americans, encouraged/menaced by their leader, N. Pelosi of “we’ll have to pass it to know what’s in it”. Members of Congress who exempted themselves from provisions they impose with force of law on the “commoners”, you and me. AND that We the commoners must pay for in any number of ways.
THAT is what being royalty, elite, betters means. One law for thee and me, and one law for them. Need we be reminded that royalty is anathema to the laws, ethos, principles of these United States?
And what about – is it, can it be true – that Congress has passed a law specifically providing lifelong armed protection by Americans from Americans for Obama and his entire family? Has such a bill ever even been considered. Isn’t life-long secret service protection enough?
What are these Congressmen and Obama telling us? Something up their sleeves that we’ll find out only when they’re safely ensconced in their protected bunkers? Or safely out of the country?
The bill that provides lifetime (armed) protection to king Obama and his litter
was written by a REPUBLICAN… Trey Gowdy, I believe is his name
So what? He proposed but did not dispose.
The entire Congress acts like and is allowed to act like a royal court. Republican, Democrat whatever. ALL courtiers seeking blessing and advance from the monarch now promoted to Messiah.
In these United States with a history, principles and laws that disallow monarchy OR royalty.
It didn’t take long for Americans to surrender character for a mess of pottage in refusal to look closely at the toxic civic drugs pushed by all their “betters”.
Only a half century since the first proclamation from the jealous, sneering self-proclaimed, “higly educated”, destructive, America hating “elite” chose their tactics and weapons to “fundamentally transform” the nation.
Their primary weapon the citizens themselves who trooped to be included in their tranformation. To deconstruct, brick by brick, the nation.
They called, they call it their “revolution of the 1960s”.
Since then Americans, those once proud, self-respecting, generous, willing to put their money where they mouths are, the envy and respect of the world have become a nation that any tinpot homicidal dictator, honourable member of the “United Nations” bankrolled primarily by Americans, is free to sneer at and belittle.
With approval and assistance from these “revolutionaries” IN and OUT of Congress, Judiciary AND Executive, Media/entertainment, “intellectual” educators. Even the questionably lawfully eligible Head Honcho. “Elected” by ALL the people including socalled republicans, conservatives, whatever.
Many – most? – of the revolutionaires have never in their entire lives been on the front line of any battle. Protected by their parents in a cotton wool world, their money and elite club membership. Behind the safety of their troops and their protected self-selected, self-propagating, incestuous enclaves in media, universities AND government.
This government CHOSEN by the people. republican, conservative, democrat, liberal, fascist, communist, socialist, whatever. CHOSEN, whatever they and the people who chose them call themselves, by American citizens. To get the promised free lunch and goodies to go with. But forgot that politicians’ promises are like the wind in the fields.
Citizens here akin to Little Red Riding Hood to the government wolf in grandma’s clothes. Salavering, smirking at the chance to eat innocent, trusting, inattentive Little Red Riding Hood alive and then spit out whatever’s not palatable to the wolf.
And still Americans bow down and kneel to the wolf and his cubs making it that much easier for him/them to swallow them whole.
2 weeks ago, a mother in Georgia defended herself and her children from an attacker in her home with a small 5 shot .38 revolver. As has been widely reported, she unloaded 5 rounds into his face in short order and the attacker immediately changed his mind. It appears to be not the best time for Cuomo and his democrats to be passing extreme gun restriction. I am picturing some New York mother in a similar situation only facing SEVERAL attackers instead of only one. She grabs her Glock 17 with the state mandated 7 round magazine replacing the now illegal 17 round mag the gun came with. She quickly pulls off the 7 rounds in the gun but runs dry before stopping all the attackers who proceed to assault her and her children. Afterwards, the woman files a CRIMINAL complaint against Cuomo and the state assembly as accessories to the assault. By depriving her of the 17 shots needed to defend herself and her family, the gov. and the state demonstrated criminal negligence by passing the NY SAFE law.
http://northdruidhills.patch.com/articles/neighbor-shoots-burglar-fleeing-merry-hills-home
WE like our guns in GA.
Note the surrrrrrrrrrprise of the perpetrator who was shot.
However it appears the great state of Georgia has its share of morons too from the comments on that article.
Granted shooting into the air is generally a pretty stupid thing to do as evidenced by the Elkton, MD girl that was killed by a bullet shot into the air on New Year’s.
However, if it wasn’t for stupid conditions placed on the use of force against obvious criminals he wouldn’t have had to fire that warning shot. After giving them verbal warning and instructions to get on the ground the first shot should not have been in the air but in one of the “suspects” as the second “warning” shot was.
Where I live the conditions on the use of force are absolutely stupid. You cannot shoot someone breaking into your house, they have to be INSIDE the house and armed for you to use deadly force in self defense. If you’ve waited for them to get inside and determined if they are armed its probably too late for you anyway.
NEVER fire a warning shot. 1) It tells the cops & DA that you weren’t really in fear of death or severe injury when you fired. 2) You are 100% responsible for where that bullet goes.
Every firearms instructor drills it into his students never to aim at anything you’re not prepared to kill, and continue shooting until the threat is neutralized (i.e., the thug is on the ground, preferably dead).
The financial reform law (under the orwellian guise of ” consumer protection”)already allows anyone who wants to snoop your bank account access to it all. This law was passed once again while the sheep slept. Demint went on record as saying this was the biggest invasion of privacy in history and we let it go by without a peep.
You already need to use cash if you don’t want to be tracked.
George Bush’s “homeland (“ie spy on every American ” lest we forget it was Bush’s proposal that home repairmen become trained to report on “suspicious” things they saw in people’s homes”) security” is recording every call, and text. The future is here we just don’t know it yet, because they are as other posters have noticed, playing the long game.
Scary times are upon us indeed.
Interesting that the NY sheriffs association just released a statement telling the politicians that they overreached.
Being a registered voting NY conservative, I can’t help get frustrated by these continued articles that are less than truthful regarding the passing of this horrible law.
The NY Senate is controlled by Republicans and they couldn’t fall over each other fast enough to help ram this crap-sandwich down our throats.
I believe in the 2012 election the NYS Senate became majority Democrat although there is a majority rule of independent Deomcrats & Republicans.
Knowing Cuomo, he probably rammed this law “down their throats!”(Mr Cuomo is very aggressive & very media savvy.)
The state assembly is majority Democrat, the state senate is Republican. The Republicans didn’t have to pass ANY gun control bill, good or bad, if they didn’t want to. They fell right in line behind Cuomo in less time than it’s taken me to write this response. Your idea that the Republicans somehow saved us from an even worse law is at odds with reality.
Exactly right, Art.
The plain fact is that at the moment NY is a blue state, period. NY politicians statewide come in two basic varities: left and far left. Any hopes that the NY Republicans will do anything to help gun owners are badly misplaced.
Vote with your feet, folks. Texas has a better economy anyway.
Hell, NYC can’t arrest everybody if enough folks arm themselves.
The Obama has over reached suffering no doubt from liberal victory disease.
Let the process begin!
Mississippi bill would nullify federal laws Published January 24, 2013 Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/24/mississippi-bill-seeks-to-nullify-federal-laws/
Mississippi is about to learn a hard lesson. Southern populists have supported a growing government for as long as there was a juicy carrot dangling in front of them in the form of Federal spending. They are about to learn that the Federal Government will not send that money to them when they have disobeyed their master.
That works both ways, you know. If the feds start playing that game, look for states to start putting all tax dollars going from state citizens into escrow accounts, and then sending the feds only what the state determines is needed for Federal Constitutional requirements.
That’s MISS ISS IPPI boys & girls.
They haven’t forgotten Appomattox Court House.
It says in their state traffic code that if you run over a possum, you gotta wait for the state trooper to notify the possum’s next of kin before you can eat it.
What would happen if range owners boycotted Democrats and the LEOs who supported this bill?
As in, no more free use of the gun range for the Burlington, Vermont police?
http://www.stowetoday.com/stowe_reporter/news/article_03046eb8-6650-11e2-a068-0019bb2963f4.html
Glen Beck just said ,on his radio show, that Michelle Backman Congressman,R Minnesota, was detained by Dept. of Homeland Security, employees (TSA )at the airport, until she missed her flight. Where is our( right to equal protection under the law.?) Why is David Gregory given a pass?These are examples of the government using it,s power ,to harass the citizenry into submission. What will be the tripping point? The Democrat party will not give up power with out a fight. Keep your powder dry boys, you might need it. We have the law to protect us, when that fails, all bets are off.
Along with civil disobedience, might I add two words: jury nullification.
If our representatives won’t protect us against excessive legislation, we can fight back using our power as jurors. As jurors we should refuse to find anyone guilty of laws we deem unconstitutional or excessive.
Not only is our political class intent on stripping us of our rights and turning us all into criminals, too often these laws do not apply to the politically connected. They are pushing us too far. We need to push back.
Jury nullification and civil disobedience are a start.
Boy, you wingnuts are in full dungeon now arent yu!
Yu muss hatekids or something cause you juss has to hav yur gunz like it was yur penizes!
Im glad i votid for Obama cause hes goin to make sure yu don kill any mor kids!
Nice satire of an illiterate leftist! It was a satire, right? You can’t possibly be as stupid as you appeared.
That’s “dudgeon”. A “dungeon” is a castle keep.
Roget’s Thesaurus and any good unabridged dictionary are your friends.
cheers
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Civil and political rights. It is about civil and political rights.
…but criminals don’t bother with the niceties of gun registration or consider if their guns are ‘assualt weapons’. They get them and use them against their victims. And the one thing criminals want, besides an easy escape or leftist lawyer and judge if they do get caught, is an armed citizen ready willing and able to defend him/herself.
In an old episode of COPS, filmed during the “assualt weapons” ban, police stopped a car for a moving violation; the two occupants of the vehicle were illegal aliens. Between them on the front seat was a loaded AK-47.
Guess neither American immigration laws nor the “assault weapons” ban, nor gun registration requirements meant much to those criminals…
Nor will they to criminals in New York who will able to pray on an increasingly helpless population…
All the ones without guns will turn them in.
All the other former New Yorkers will be voting in Florida and Texas.
A million law-abiding gun owners should recall Gov Cuomo for violating the US Constitution.
You are correct, it is not just a political offense to not keep the oath. It is also both a criminal and civil offense, here are the laws that apply:
Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order that further defines the law for purposes of enforcement.
5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office members of Congress are required to take before assuming office.
5 U.S.C. 3333 requires members of Congress sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law,
5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense for anyone employed in the United States Government to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government”.
18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.
The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311.
Executive Order 10450 provision specifies it is a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration … of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”
Our form of government is defined by the Constitution of the United States. According to Executive Order 10450 (and therefore 5 U.S. 7311) any act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331 which alters the form of government other then by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311. <- which he is doing
Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
The Constitution of the United States of America IS the Supreme Law of this land, NOT those who serve within the federal government.
The first law statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.
The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8.
‘Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”’
The Framers placed the presidential Oath of Office after the beginning clauses setting forth the organization of the executive department, and before the ending clauses that specify the contours of the President's assigned power. The President takes the oath after he assumes the office but before he executes it. The location and phrasing of the Oath of Office Clause strongly suggest that it is not empowering, but that it is limiting – the clause limits how the President's "executive power" is to be exercised.
The requirement for all Federal and State Civil officers to give their solemn and binding Oath is established in Article VI, Section 1, Clause 4.
They are bound by their Oath to support the US Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure – political remedy for a political offense; civil and criminal charges.
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”
Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.
Solemn: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited. The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration – both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”
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Bound: “Being under legal or moral obligation; to constitute the boundary or limit of; to set a limit to; confine”
Legally Binding: Common legal phrase. Lawful action, such as an agreement consciously agreed to by two or more entities, establishing lawful accountability. An illegal action, such as forcing, tricking, or coercing a person into an agreement, is not legally binding. Both parties knowingly understand what they are agreeing to is the other requirement to legally establish an agreement or contract.
Consideration: “Consideration in a contract is a bargained for exchange of acts or forbearance of an act.”
Require, Requirement, Required: Mandated under a law or by an authoritative entity. "To claim or ask for by right and authority; That which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory; something demanded or imposed as an obligation."
Contract: “An agreement between two or more parties creating obligations that are enforceable or otherwise recognizable at law.”
The Framers placed the requirement for “Oaths of Office” in the Constitution. These Oaths are to function as “checks” on the powers of the federal government and protect us from usurpations.
Each Branch of the federal government has “the check of the Oath” on the other two branches. The States, whose officials also take the Oath of Office, have the same check on all three branches of the federal government. And “We the People”, the “original fountain of all legitimate authority” (Federalist 22), have the Right to overrule violations of the Constitution by elected and appointed officials.
Webster’s 1828 Dictionary says for “Constitution”: “…In free states, the constitution is paramount to the statutes or laws enacted by the legislature, limiting and controlling its power; and in the United States, the legislature is created, and its powers designated, by the constitution.”
If any Branch fails to obey the “supreme Law”, then, in order to preserve the Rule of Law, the other Branches, or failing that, the States or the people, must overrule them”.
I have not verified this law, but I have the others:
Title 18 United States Code Section 926 (Federal law Gun Control Act of 1968) makes it a FEDERAL FELONY for ANYONE to require a gun registration list of ANY kind if at any time said list in any way can or will be used as a gun confiscation list.
Chicago did this years ago. The politicians didn’t even bother making us register the handguns. No kidding! They just passed the ban. My office mate lives in the city proper. Registering your guns was not required, but you could do it, so he did. Along comes the ban, he calls Mr. Daley’s office and they basically say don’t worry about it – is what it amounted to.
It was a political move by the dems when homicides were over 1,000.
If this story (about confiscation) gets serious circulation, the dems will get bombed in the mid-terms, and not just in NY
So are gun manufacturers like Remington planning to move manufacturing out of New York? Seems to me that the NY SAFE Act could be an additional annoyance on top of many for a company manufacturing guns. Who would want to buy the NY-compliant version of a gun in states where there are no stupid limits on cosmetics and magazines?
Outstanding post however I was wondering if you could write a litte more on this subject? I’d be very thankful if you could elaborate a little bit further. Thank you!
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A word to the wise for all the gun owners out there: if you are having money problems and are thinking about taking your firearm to the pawn shop, DON’T DO IT.
Once it is in their possession, they are required by Federal Law to make you submit to another background check just to get it back. Even though it is your own property. If you don’t believe me, call your local pawn shop and verify it. They will hip you to the facts.
In a border town in AZ. (Yuma) This past weekend a nice neighborhood was burglarized. They were cased prior and the items taken were guns.
That is all. The scary thing is, in one of the homes the man was sleeping and had male friends crashed out (passed out more like it) in one of the other rooms….during the break in. Not one of them heard what was going on and where the guns were located one of the guys was sleeping. The man had a gun cabinet, but not a safe as he had accumulated too many and never upgraded to a safe.
What is even scarier is the homes that were broken into were all law enforcement or worked government jobs like BLM. If criminals are going to logistically plan burglaries on law enforcement why the hell would regular citizens give up their guns??? If just one of those men have opened their eyes, they would all be dead. BTW, none of the homes broken into had dogs!!! BY A BIG ASS DOG!! OR little ones that bark a lot..
George,
I was wondering if this move would cause mass migration of citizens. Then maybe New York can finally have it’s “Utopian” vision.. of course it is a fantasy. If the gun citizens leave the criminals infiltrate.
I do hope Remington moves. Tell them to come to Arizona! We would love to have them! We need jobs out here too.
If the donkeys practiced what they preach….they would call out the Illinois state Police, National Guard and condon of the west and south ends of Chicago, and do a house to house shake down.
Howcum they don’t? (rhetorical question)……
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CUOMO
As long as the U S government remains friendly to our needs and wishes, I really don’t care if the citizens have weapons or not. That is their problem.
That is why you rise now. Get together with a few 100 and dare them. don’t let yourselves be ruled damn people rise and rise now hard and often.
Correct me if I am wrong,but the next govenor election will be held next year. We should not forget this blatant violation of our rights. We need to remind our leaders that they are ultimately accountable to us. We need to unite our voices on Election Day and vote these turds out and send a message to the rest of the liberals out there. Don’t stand for this and stand up to them.