Regime Change in Iran: Yes, We Can
President Obama has finally come out unequivocally on the side of the victimized people of Iran, condemning the regime’s violent actions and saying there were “big questions” about the election results. He wisely mentioned the videotaped, tear-jerking death of Neda Soltani, saying, “We have experienced the searing image of a woman bleeding to death on the streets. While this loss is raw and painful, we also know this: those who stand up for justice are always on the right side of history.”
He even went so far as to declare his support for the principles that the Iranians are fighting for, making statements that would be called neoconservative or Wilsonian if done by another man. “The Iranian people have a universal right to assembly and free speech. If the government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect those rights and heed the will of its own people. It must govern through consent, not coercion. That is what Iran’s own people are calling for, and the Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government,” he said. These are words that will resonate with the Iranian people and, if broadcast to the masses, will have results on the streets of Tehran.
President Obama initially refrained from harshly coming out against the Iranian regime, fearing the regime would try to paint its internal conflict as an international one, attributing the instability to an American plot in an attempt to undermine the credibility of the opposition. This line of thinking fails to acknowledge that it is the Iranian regime, not the Iranian people, that has the credibility issue. The word of the government has become bankrupt and no effort to stir up nationalism will make them forgive the transgressions against them. The Iranian government has consistently tried to frame each expression of dissent against it as a Western plot to no avail.
The Green Revolution may succeed on its own, but the U.S. can and must play a role in this struggle with worldwide ramifications. President Obama needs to go beyond making powerful individual statements and launch a sustained political offensive aimed at energizing the Iranian people and placing the world’s attention on them. In short, he needs to go back to the rapid-response, emotion-rousing campaign that made him president.
He needs to specifically and frequently mention the death of Neda, and immediately react to each new crackdown with condemnation and a call for the release of political prisoners and the allowing of dissent. Stories like how the regime has demanded “bullet fees” before handing the dead body of a killed demonstrator to his father need to be loudly broadcast. He needs to make clear to those in the security forces that they have the choice of laying down their arms, choosing not to kill people who look like their sons and daughters for the sake of a failed regime, or engaging in horrific acts that they will each be held personally responsible for at a later time. This sounds simple, and indeed it is, but this overt support can have a dramatic effect.
So It means the author of this Article wants the President of the United States to be a Propagandist?. After all he is the president of the United State not the President of the World, how long will it take for you to embrace this fact?
President Obama is just a coward! Is that simple!
He’s foolish Obama to dance when a small drum beats in Iran while turning his deaf ear to the facts of human slaughtering and suppression throughout the year is still taking place in many parts of the World. For instances Myanmar. If the supporters of the John McCain comes out in the street and took violent agitations for not installing their choice as President what the U.S. administrations would do? Mr. Ryan Mauro there are many spheres you can write for suppressions of human rights in the world. Take on them.
He wisely mentioned the videotaped, tear-jerking death of Neda Soltani, saying, “We have experienced the searing image of a woman bleeding to death on the streets. While this loss is raw and painful, we also know this: those who stand up for justice are always on the right side of history.”
Puleese Ryan. He couldn’t even bring himself to say the government of The Supreme Leader killed her. Obama was mealy mouthed and a week late.
It’s obvious he’s only responding to public pressure. He could care less whether Iranians live under a democracy or religious dictatorship. It’s all the same to him.
The people are not standing up for justice, but for democracy. There will be no justice until they have a government of the people. And by not standing up for democracy, Obama’s on the wrong side of history .
The only way he can help the people of Iran (or America) is to resign. He is unfit for the job the media bestowed upon him.
This much is clear to any objective and dispassionate observer: Barack Obama is a follower and not a leader. He frankly has no idea what to do next. Obama will simply look at the polling data and place his wet finger into the air. He instinctively believes that America is responsible for much of the grief throughout the world. Thus, Obama inevitably gravitates toward policies premised on appeasement. Everybody will supposedly like the United States if we only go out of our way to be nice.
The sanctions and other diplomatic tools offered in this article will not blunt the support of the Russia and China for the Mullahs. President Obama offers platitudes and lukewarm encouragement to the demonstrators while they attempt to fight the Basij and the Revolutionary Guards with rocks. The Arabs do nothing because they fear democratic movements.
If we really wanted to be effective we would offer something other than rocks to the demonstrators. Iran’s government is the most vulnerable it has been since 1979. I suspect it has a cadre of hard core supporters who are on the payroll, but they are hated by the majority of Iranians, especially after the events of the last 2 weeks. If the Mullahs were toppled all neighbors and western nations would benefit. It is pathetic that all that is offered to these rebels are belated words. Does the President think he can shake hands with Iranian leaders and sit with them now, after they have massacred people in the streets? He is clinging to a dream that reality has shattered.
The demonstrators need fire power to take on their antagonizers. Iran has long borders with countries where AK 47′s are common. It’s time for the mullahs to play defense. It will never happen, because President Obama would never be able to imagine himself promoting such an outcome. He would rather talk, that’s his training. All of us are going to find out soon just how useless his empty, cautious, words are.
Bullets always rule. This will be the rule in Iran for the next several years. Killing is just what they do and they enjoy doing it.
OGasmba #1:
First of all, it is Your Messiah and his mindless followers who have in effect claimed him to be Messiah of our World, not Mauro or conservatives.
No, child, not a “propagandist” – an unequivocal proponent of Liberty.
Some people just don’t want to learn. (sigh)
President Obama initially refrained from harshly coming out against the Iranian regime, fearing the regime would try to paint its internal conflict an international one, attributing the instability to an American plot in an attempt to undermine the credibility of the opposition.
It’s very disappointing to see the mindless swallowing and repetition of Obama media justifications. No person in their right mind believe that the uprising in Iran was caused by anything other than a repressive regime stealing an election. The mullahs blamed the uprising on the United States in any event. So what? Who believes anything they say?
Obama did not speak out because he has this delusional fantasy, born of his arrogance and narcissism, that he can sweet talk the mullahs out of their nuclear ambitions. He did not want to offend The Supreme Leader, as he cravenly calls him.
If the revolution in Iran is successful then the Iranian nuclear issue might be resolved without the necessity of Israel bombing the nuclear facilities. Obama is an impediment to peace.
“Present”
I remember reading in “The Bear and the Dragon” by Tom Clancy one Chinese officer using this threat to
keep another one in line: Your family will be billed for the bullet to execute you.
The Shia renegades, for I have more confidence in the Shia Islam practised by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, deserve what they have coming to them: namely what they have dished out.
I am still hopeful that Rafsanjani can pull this situation out of the fire in a peaceful manner via the Council of Experts using one of the lines
of Donald Trump to Khameini: You’re fired!
Totus will blame Bush and pass out ice-cream.
We need to get arms to the people! We also need to send gifts to the regime in the form of strategically placed bombs! We all know those wusses are in hiding while they send thier thugs out to kill the people. Take out the top and the rest will fall. Support the people!!
Obviously -although it’s the last thing Team Obama wants to hear- Ronald Reagan’s support of Poland’s Solidarity in the dark days of the Soviet-ordered crackdown is the model here- not the preposterous straw-man argument of “what are you going to do, invade?” disingenuously presented by the do-nothing, Obamapologist left.
And isn’t this what George W Bush told you was going to happen in the Middle East in the wake of Iraq’s liberation?
Maybe that’s why Barack Obama has so little apparent interest in finishing the job in Iran… no matter how much it benefits the US and free world.
That, and the fact that he’s already piled all his chips on legitimizing this vile regime- a democratic revolution at this point would be downright embarrassing for him.
From the Washington Post:
U.S. Withdraws July 4th Invite to Iranian Diplomats
By Glenn Kessler
So much for “hot-dog diplomacy.” The White House announced today that it had withdrawn invitations to Iranian diplomats to attend Fourth of July festivities at U.S. embassies around the world.
The United States and Iran have not had diplomatic relations for nearly three decades, but Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton authorized the invitations as a way of reaching out to the Islamic Republic. But U.S. officials said no Iranian diplomats thus far had responded to the invitations.
“July Fourth allows us to celebrate the freedom and the liberty we enjoy,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said. “Freedom of speech. Freedom of religion. Freedom to assemble peacefully. Freedom of the press. So I don’t think it’s surprising that nobody’s signed up to come.”
Gibbs added: “Given the events of the past many days, those invitations will no longer be extended.”
During a news conference on Wednesday, President Obama had indicated the invitations were still being extended. Asked if the July 4th offer still stood, Obama responded: “That’s a choice the Iranians are going to have to make.”
Gamba: The president of the USA is in fact the leader of what we once called the “Free World”.
To think otherwise is to not understand the world.
How long will it take you to grasp that, Gamba?
Useful idiots like you that parrot the Marxist line are not helping the USA or “the world”.
American leadership bith is a fact and a necessity, no matter how irresponsible ot incompetent Obama’s response is in this area, or how much the International Left, both foreign or domestic, wishes to do away with it.
Marxist propagandists put this nonsense you are spreading out in order to morally cripple America. The want this so that they can realize their evil designs.
It is a moral obligation for the President to speak out. What are we going to do, rely on the EU? And that you want America to be “just another country”, says all that we need know about you. Why do you want to belittle her so. You Liberals really hate this nation, don’t you?
If you think that there is this “morally superior world community” out there you a vastly mistaken. If the USA does not take the the moral leadership, few things get done in this world, and that has been true for many decades. (And you can sure bet that the Russians, the Norks and the Chinese will,have their snouts in all of this.)
And this condescending attitude, Gamba. You are the one that does not “get it”. Typical liberal/socialist arrogance: Because people do not kowtow to the same BS we have heard year in and year out for generations, you imagine that we are the ones being obtuse. In actuality the whole matter is quite the opposite of what you imagine it to be.
This debate was won long before you were even born. We have heard all of this before–it nver stops with you people. We wholly reject it, as do all decent Americans. Get it?
Please stop mouthing the propaganda of our enemies and at the same time posturing as intellectually and morally superior to us. You are anything but that.
American leadership bith is a fact… = American leadership both is a fact…
I’ll give Mr. Obama his due. His on the job training is progressing a little. While I believe he was late to the dance, better late than never. What makes me scratch my head, however, is why on earth any American would be worried about sending the wrong message to Iran. It’s 30 years of war and even though the US has been diffident, the Iranians have been quite serious. God bless the people in the street and **** the mullahs and anyone who supports, apologizes for or even tolerates them!
Mr. Mauro,
It appears that you, once again, are the brilliant mind that ou govt does not possess. Sanctions, propaganda, and signaling? Brilliant! I’m tweeting the Obama administration these ideas right now — I hope you don’t mind.
Haha. I’m kidding. Of course they thought of that already, it’s just that they have to read their copies of How to deal with Iranian power hungry effing crazies, first. Then they can respond. I thought you knew that.
I believe that our President has had his first “neocon” moment. I would like to believe that he got there thru dicernment but I think it happened because he found out that the mullah’s were riducling him for the letter he sent out to them. People like Obama riducle people and they go ballistic when someone laughs at them.
Gamba, you don’t get it but John F. Kennedy did. He said, “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and success of liberty.” And that Gamba, was addressed to the world!
Like when Russia invaded Georgia, President Obama’s ever shifting, contradictory statements are a mirror image for the Iran protests as both took two weeks to gain a position; waiting on the sidelines to see who is the clear winner, Obama wants to see who wins & then bloviate about his leadership made things possible in Iran. What a maroon. President Obama is not & has never been a leader. But he is a calculated, cold, radical Leftist follower looking for his political advantage; ironically, Obama’s “present” stance has hurt him. He cannot recover from this wound. It will grow like a cancer & infect his other agenda as his domestic politics fall apart. By Fall, he will be a broken, shattered man with constant defeats handed to him thanks to Congress & the people of the United States.
Good ideas for presidential action Mauro has–if we had a president of America who was an American president.
I do not know why folks are crediting Obama with anything. Events poked him in his little narcissistic world for a moment and he did what all narcissists do: Charm and talk his way out of it and then act like nothing has really happened.
He did not “learn” anything out of it. He is beyond learning about any thing other than how to gratify his narcissism. If he has a higher goal, the benefits will accrue to our enemies.
He detests this nation and all it stands for. Nothing could be clearer.
I mean, inviting Iranian diplomats to the WH for the 4th of July in the first place.
What an insult to all of us. This tells us all we need to know about Obama and the Democrats.
Neocon moment? I doubt it. Great thought though.
One would hope that American organizations, which have struggled so long and so hard to be heard, would display empathy for the oppressed people of Iran.
Thomas L @ #18,
If you want to give President Obama his due, compliment him for employing US forces as the anvil to the Pakistan armies hammer in the tribal territories. The Predator strikes have been highly effective, as has the afforementioned tactic.
He gets no due for his failure to understand the sea change that the rebelion in Iran represents. He can not sit with the mullahs or make any type of deal with these butchers any time in the near future without giving them legitimacy and proping their tattered international image. Meanwhile, they acquire nuclear weapons. The Israeli’s will have to attack Natanze now, there is no viable alternative. Reminds me of the Allied nonreaction to the annexing of the Sudetenland by the German Nazis prior to WWII. Had there been a cohesive response the price would have been relatively small compared to the 60 million that eventually were killed due to Hitler’s unrestrained ambition.
Ms. Attitude has it right. The rebels need arms to overthrow the theocracy which the young majority despised and now hates. Don’t tell me it can’t happen when we have seen it happen again and again throughout history. It happened right here about 230 years ago. It would be good for everyone except the Mullahs and their Russian and Chinese appologists. This President is not capable of such thought. He still thinks he has someone to charm and make a deal with. How delusional and naive.
but, but, but . . .zero *likes* the mullahs. The mullahs guy is i’m-a-nut-job, and he’s sooo looking forward to talking with him, with no pre-conditions like “don’t butcher your own people”.
One would hope that American organizations, which have struggled so long and so hard to be heard
Huh?
Does the President think he can shake hands with Iranian leaders and sit with them now, after they have massacred people in the streets?
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He’s a follower of Marx, of Alinsky and good buddies with Billy we-may-need-to-kill-25 million AMERICANS who won’t buy into the kool-aide -weatherunderground Ayers. Right up there with Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc, who brutally murdered millions of their own who wouldn’t drink the kool-aide. The mullahs may use the “religion of peace” as an excuse, but the effect is the same. Dictatoship.
President Obama initially refrained from harshly coming out against the Iranian regime, fearing the regime would try to paint its internal conflict an international one, attributing the instability to an American plot in an attempt to undermine the credibility of the opposition.
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Well ya duh. they might not have read Alinksy, but the tactics are the same. DEFLECT attention, and BLAME someone else – whether that blame is legit or not (usually not).
small children will blame someone else to deflect attention from their misdeeds, but that doesn’t stop an *adult* from doing what’s right.
zero is such a child.
Mongoose:
By neocon moment I meant he has been mugged by reality. It will take a few more such muggings at home and abroad to move him off his chosen path. I believe he is capable of learning. I just hope he figures it out sooner rather then later. Besides, I would love to see the reaction of Obamanation when and if their Dear Leader turns on them.
Thomas L @ #18,
If you want to give President Obama his due, compliment him for employing US forces as the anvil to the Pakistan armies hammer in the tribal territories.
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zero pays hommage to Abdullah. *Abdullah* consider’s the twerps in Pakistan a threat to his throne, but doesn’t have the toys to “do something about it” at his disposal zero does. But zero is beholden to him, so zero obliges. zero get’s no credit – it wasn’t his idea, and he was ordered to do it.
But U.S. officials said no Iranian diplomats thus far had responded to the invitations.
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don’t hold your breath that zero and co will take that as it’s meant. “they just aren’t that into you”.
By Fall, he will be a broken, shattered man with constant defeats handed to him thanks to Congress & the people of the United States.
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promise?
Besides, I would love to see the reaction of Obamanation when and if their Dear Leader turns on them.
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It’s not his skin, he wont’ care.
iran will have to be bombed, and in the meantime, this “phony election” ploy ought to come in pretty handy in the pre-”shock and awe” propaganda campaign.
iran has to be bombed because they’re the biggest hole in the neocon’s wall, for one thing, and for another, hormuz has to be closed so oil can be herded to israel so israel can make a living once israeli america collapses from looting and oil shortages.
the hole in the neocons’ wall
Are we talking of the same Apologizer in Chief who is sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza, knowing perfectly well that any “humanitarian help” will CERTAINLY end up in the hands of hamas ???
He talked little and talked too late.
His friend Chavez must be happy about him and how well he helped their common friends, the mullahs.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Why do these darn polls take so long to get results from? It took me 12 days to figure out that I am apalled and outraged! You staffers have to figure out how people are looking at me much sooner in the future! It’s hard to fake these emotions so late in the game!
Flickervertigo at #36,
Please elaborate; I am not following your argument.
jerry, well i appreciate the thought, but i have no reason to believe this is true.
That moment means he changes his mind after the mugging.
But I get where you are coming from, and I sure hope that you are right and I am wrong, believe you me.
Let’s face it.. Obama is a wimp when it comes to standing up to extremists. These people in Iran were holding up signs in English. Who were they calling out for help from? The US and England! The lame excuse that Obama and the rest of the cowardly Libs are using makes no sense at all!! Obama is doing nothing to stand up for these people looking for freedom and he is still getting blamed by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for supposedly interfering. So that excuse makes no sense! Honestly I think Obama is afraid of Ahmadinejad. We have a wimp for a President!
Samizdat and ked5 – You are probably right but I don’t like to sound like those who condemned Bush for just getting up in the morning. Mea culpa. Read the rest of my comment, however.
Can you not see, Barack isn’t the one making these laws and legislation..his handlers are he is just told what to say, he is nothing more then a figure head. If you look to closly at the “President” You will miss who is really in charge. THE FED, THE FDA, THE FCC, Bernake”AKA Old Money” The know that old addage “Money talks and BULLSHIT WALKS” I believe this applies to everything going on here and if you believe that these rules will just go away when Barack goes away you would be deaed wrong because the next “President” Will just keep the old rules and make ever more rules. It is nothing but one president after another making more and more laws and taxes.
All together now:-
‘He flips he flops he never ever stops Obambi Obamiiiii’
The world and his wife now know that Ob=BOW-ma is an ‘empty suit’ this man is a follower not a leader he blows anyway the Polls go.
Fine article and great suggestions, except way too optimistic about Obama. He’s not Reagan vis-a-vis the Soviet Union. As his Cairo speech showed, he’s half-sympathetic to the radical Muslims. The July 4 invitations to members of the Iranian regime are still extant. Obama is not made of anything like the stuff required to put decisive pressure on the evil regime in Tehran.
hormuz must be closed to stimulate pipeline construction towards israel, the med and europe, so israel can make a living from oil transit revenues once it is no longer supported by israeli america.
the only way to close hormuz is to stir up war with iran.
the necons’ wall will also restrict russian access to european markets, and restrict chinese access to persian gulf/central asian oil.
iran is the remaining obstacle to this plan, but seeing as how iran’s nuke electricity program is a matter of national pride, seeing as how iran is unlikely to voluntarily surrender its khuzestan oil patch, its south pars gas patch, or its pipeline routes to neocon control.
tthe overall neocon plan
neocon map from neocon ralph peters
operation enduring turmoil
looks to me that this plan is too farfetched to succeed, but there’s a good chance that a large faction of supposed neocons are using this “war on terror” as cover for the biggest looting operation in history.
they wrap themselves in an israeli flag to cash in on israel’s exemption from critism so they themselves are exempt from criticism as they loot.
once they stack up enough loot, they will no longer need israel as a refuge of last resort, a function of israel that was demonstrated when the yukos oligarchs moved to israel when putin cracked down.
of course, the reason putin dumped the yukos oligarchs is because they were allies of the AEI/PNAC project, and were slated to guarantee oil supplies to israeli america as israeli america made a shambles of the persian gulf oilfields as they rearranged the middle east to israeli spec.
as their situation worsened, the yukos guys attempted to sell yukos to exxon, which had overtly signed onto the AEI/PNAC project in 1998.
so that put a radical kink in the PNAC project… and as time wears on, more and more people are beginning to catch on.
Honestly, if Barack Obama had made a few grandiose speeches directly to the Iranian people when this had begun… the people there would have risen up and removed the dictatorship. Its too late, the Obamessiah has missed the chance for actual greatness.
Good article! Thank you
Being a Iranian myself Iam highly involved in this.
My conclusion is that Hussain Obama WANTS the regime in place!
Thats goes against all logic but it seems that way.
The world will face a new more agressive IR if our people fail!
flicker – Sis boom ba! Go Neocons! Look in a mirror, put a finger to your lips go blbrblbrblbr!
maximus says…
of course he does.
ahmadinejad is the best thing that ever happened to the MEMRI propaganda machinery.
#50 Maximus
My conclusion is that Hussein Obama WANTS the regime in place!
Chavez is the great friend of the mad mullahs regime, this gives you an indication about the meaning of the whole game.
Internationalist subversives need these “crazy cards” that can be played aggressively against America and Israel.
Any enemy of America is a friend of the internationalist subversives.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Putin dumped the oligarchs because he wanted their money and power.
This is not difficult.
What if the election of our current president was a reflection of a collective wish to take a vacation from reality on the part of the American electorate? What if the selection Ahmadinejad was an attempt by the mullahs to bannish the reality of true elections having been successfully held in Iraq?
The iranians protesters do not enjoy the support of America, simply because America is AWOL right now.
BHO waltzed through Harvard and Columbia, possibly at taxpayer’s expense through the “miracle” of affirmative action, and came out with the depth of judgment of a teenager. What we see is the practical consequences of having put a preening ignorant in the white house. Maybe the Americans will wake up, and the Iranians will get some support.
The revolution (or is it a counter-revolution?) in Iran is probably going to continue, but with a diminished visibility and at a slower pace, which will make it drop from the radar of the media.
But apparent silence is not a proof of any paralysis of destiny.
obama is the american version of tony blair, and his election, in addition to being such a glib contrast to the mumbler who previously occupied the position, is black.
…which should go quite a ways towards pacifying blacks who are potentially the most likely flashpoint as america continues to decline.
we gots to preserve the israeli american empire for as long as possible, if for no other reason than to prolong the opportunities to loot.
Mongoose says…
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yup.
everything would have been fine if richard perle and lee raymond had pocketed the loot instead of putin.
Flicker, if America is in decline, it is people like you.
You say this as it if it is a good things.
The problem with you is that you think that you are in the elite. You are not.
the crap they teach you to mouth is not what they really belive.
Should they obtain absolute power, people like you are the first to go.
It doesn’t matter what Obama says or does. Either way, some of you will find a way to attack his logic. The bottom line is, if you don’t like Obama, you’ll never accept his policies or his responses to situations like we see in Iran, regardless of what they are. I don’t really understand what some of you expect him to do. If he provides arms to the opposition, they will all be killed and Obama will have proven to the conservative majority of Iran that Khamenei has been right about the United States all along. If Obama’s rhetoric becomes too belligerent, then he eliminates any hope of opening a dialogue with the Iranians about their nuclear program. If they develop nuclear weapons, the world will never be the same. Of course, some of you would say that Obama should bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities. Criminally naive, considering the fact that we don’t even where all their facilities are located, and that the resulting radioactive cloud would probably drift over Israel. If we push Iran up against a wall, you can be sure that dirty bombs will start going off in Europe and the United States. You need to think about the unintended consequences of your stridency before you start hurling invectives at the president, who has more information about what’s going on in Iran than any ten of you here.
lee raymond is a pauper… he got his $400 million golden parachute from exxon when he retired, but if he’d been successful in buying exxon, he probably would have got billions.
meanwhile, to judge the relative worth of politicians vs CEOs, tony blair only got a million dollars from israel for his leadership…
…presumably for leading america into israel’s war in iraq by lying through his teeth.
And “The Israeli Empire”? Israeli is the roughly the size of Connecticut.
Wha are you talking about, Williamsburg? They can have it. Wish we could shop them the whole of upper West and East Sides too.
Flicker, you are losing your grip. You should save some of your nonsense and read it someday after you have grown up. You will be shocked by yourself one day
lee raymond is a pauper… he got his $400 million golden parachute from exxon when he retired, but if he’d been successful in buying yukos, he probably would have got billions.
meanwhile, to judge the relative worth of politicians vs CEOs, tony blair only got a million dollars from israel for his leadership…
…presumably for leading america into israel’s war in iraq by lying through his teeth.
The only thing that will replace them is another Islamist regime. Hardliners and Reformers Both Want to Keep Iran a Theocracy
http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/06/hardliners-and-reformers-both-want-to.html
Democracy with Muslims does not change their religious views or their opinions of the outside world. Democracy does not mean that some form of “moderate” Islam is coming to the resuce. Democracy with Muslims does not stop Islam from marching across the West. Please wake up, it is going to be us or them.
He talks the talk, but he won’t walk the walk. How can he when he believes we are too stupid to take care of ourselves.
http://animal-farm.us/change/obamas-chairo-speech-484
Flicker: I have lived in Russia. Let me tell you, people like Perle are not even in the same league of the Oligarchs. Not even close. They were controlled whole regions of the country, while sectors of the economy, some still do.
I doubt that Perle possess some much as one hand grenade. The Russian elite have nuclear weapons, oh and they are pointed at you (and Mr. Perle).
You must face this Jew hatred of yours, it is wrapping you–it is immoral and deeply sinful. You really need help. People say that as a rejoinder, but I mean it. It does not even sound like you really believe it. You are having a psycotic break, or are close to it. Seek some help. Seriously
mongoose says…
if america is in decline, it’s because america squandered its resources on making useless things for wasteful people.
too damn bad america’s been built from the ground up dependent on a resource that’s now past its peak… to bad america now has to waste trillions of dollars in an attempt to grab that resource by force of arms, and it’s way too bad that, so far, we’ve caused the needless deaths of maybe a million people.
what do you spose the final death toll will be, once we’ve grabbed the oil and secured israel?
you guys keep lying, you keep the pressure up, you keep attempting to create your own version of reality… and sooner or later, everyone will give up, and there will be a war that will put the world back into the stone age, with no resources left to rebuild.
but that’s okay, so long as you’ve stacked up enough loot to hide out until the dust settles, isnt it?
This is what was done in 1953 by the selfservatives. The minute they came into power, they created the disaster of which we are still paying for in Iran, Not to mention the hell they have brought to the Iranian people. All because of their cowardly fear of communists (and the general conservative me first greed characteristic, in this case BP oil).
YOU DESTROYED A NATION THAT HAD A DEMOCRACY!
The “successful” regime change the covert conservatives created at that time has lost you conservatives and unfortunately, America any credibility. We are now forced to be silent and patient.
Instead of Obama, it is the selfservatives who should have a middle east tour to apologize for their actions.
That might finally help, for the ones who are actually responsible to own up.
Conservatives can’t see the correlation that the government in Iran is conservative and that the people are fighting for liberalization. Like the liberty (liberalism) we have in the greatest nation in history, America.
Not the petty, me first or my own kind and afraid of everything and everyone else mentality of the right.
Conservatives are the disgrace to every race and nation worldwide.
flicker – Added to the list of “ignore” due to complete ignorance combined with total arrogance. Keep typing baby!
6 months ago…
bomb,bomb, bomb, bomb Iraaaan. bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb,
now…
Oh, those poor people. why aren’t we doing anything?
Give me a break.
I have no doubts what so ever that if Obama were doing exactly what you say you want him to do, aggressively supporting the protesters and demanding vote recounts or whatever, you’d still be complaining. “What is doing getting us involved in Iranian internal politics” – no doubt.
Your position is whatever is against our President. Love it or leave it I say.
Ah Whitey but remember when, way back when, dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Besides, no doubt you are totally wrong.
@maximus
Being a Iranian myself Iam highly involved in this. My conclusion is that Hussain Obama WANTS the regime in place!
Thats goes against all logic but it seems that way.
It’s inconsistent with logic , but totally consistent with Obama’s history.
One way that I found to send analyses of what is going on in Iran, so that governments get off their butts and pass legislation that finds Khameini and his goons guilty of human rights abuses, is to go over to: http://www.embassiesabroad.com/embassies-of/France#1072 in the case of France. The email link is there.
For other governments, substitute the name of the country, or kingdom, for France, and the list of embassies of that country, or kingdom, comes up.
KingKong, are you saying that Mossadegh adhered to a strict non-aligned movement?
Time, and time again, Mongoose, et al, in other places here at pjm, have pointed to the links between Mossadegh and the Kremlin.
How much spoon feeding do you need for you to check those facts.
None so blind as those who refuse to see.
69. KingKong:
Looks like someone fell asleep in history class and is now really mad.
71. Whitey:
Is that you Sheesh? You warned us you’d change your name. But you give yourself by singing that Carter era song, over and over and over. You do realize that a government that is a dictatorship is NOT the people, conservatives/libertarians/republicans never wanted the people bombed. It’s always been about their oppresive government…WE believe in freedom of the people…the left belives in power of the government…if the people were to protest (Iran/Tea Parties) what side would you be on?
KingKook – Which is it? Selfservatives or conservatives? How am I supposed to follow your “thinking” if you keep changing the name you’re calling me? “Cowardly fear of communism”??? What about your apparent hysteria over … gasp … conservatives? Just in case you don’t know, your post is utter nonsense. Back to Puffho with you! They speak nonsense there.
Oh that was me, not really Mahmoud.
Where the heck did my response to King Kook go?
Anyway … “cowardly fear of communism” is being thrown at us by someone, apparently, absolutely terrified of … wait for it … conservatives.
America & Obama have neither done nor said Anything wrong & therefor have Nothing to apologize to Ahmadinejad or Irans Regime for. You don’t see America or Obama hiring illegal Terrorists Militia to illegally & inhumanely abuse, murder, slaughter or arrest people in America. Nor do you see America or Obama forbidding & banning Media, protesting, cell phones, internet, or any one else who opposes elections or laws or Obamas policies, or cutting off all forms of Media to hide it from the world. You don’t see John McCain having to hide. You don’t see America arresting Foreign Reporters or banning their rights to report here in America or falsifying that truth in order to hide the truth from the world thru their own Media after the world has already seen the truth. Ahmadinejad & Irans Regime are the ones that should APOLOGIZE to the Oposition in Iran & step down! Can they handle that? Or do they need to slaughter more people because they can’t?
Where are the Hamiltonians, the Federalists, those conservatives, who even helped draft the constitution, who begrudgingly, after Jefferson, the Liberals encouraged Independence for years?
It took the blatant aggressive behavior of the British before these monarchy loving, the worldwide English colony dreaming conservatives to go along with the liberals (no doubt for selfish reasons) for them to join in.
Where are they, dead. Why, because when England attacked again, this time after our independence in 1812, even after all the work these conservative Federalist put into building this country, they were willing to sell it out so easily to go back to their love of having a monarchy. When the country saw this, after this “second” independence was won, that idea that the conservatives of that ear held, was dead.
What are we left with today, the Jeffersonian Democrat/Republican party that split into two. So really, the conservatives today are the conservative wing of the old liberal party. No conservative today wants a monarchy, we beat it out of you. In fact liberals beat your bullshit out of you always. The country accepts women in the work force, women to vote, blacks rights and integration, and most likely gays will marry next, etc etc etc.
You lose, always! The very definition of you is to lose, because you cannot change, you are conservative, stuck in your way, old and decrepit. Progress has to be beaten into you. Bite into this, it’ll sting a bit, but don’t worry, you’ll get there,
42. Thomas L……:
Samizdat and ked5 – You are probably right but I don’t like to sound like those who condemned Bush for just getting up in the morning. Mea culpa. Read the rest of my comment, however.
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I too wish I am wrong – I fear my concerns don’t go far enough.
King Kong… Today’s “Progressive’s” or “Liberal’s”
are today’s statist, closed universe, busy-bodies
who nag incessentantly.
Getting to the topic at hand, rather than dealing with the issue of the topic, what are you doing so that governments around the world begin to draft legislation that finds Khameini and his goons guilty of human rights offenses? Or, at the very least, charge them with human rights offenses, and then set up something to make those verdicts stick.
70. Thomas L……:
HI
flicker – Added to the list of “ignore” due to complete ignorance combined with total arrogance. Keep typing baby!
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I though he was the latest incarnation of sheeshie boy.
Yea; Obama should resign to show his solidarity!
Nah, even though his post are the same nonsense they are too long for sheeshie boy. He can’t hold a thought that long. Whitey has the same sentence structure and he’s posted with both before on the same thread going back and forth with atta boys to each other (himself).
King Kong, you need to do some research on conservatives. You hold a narrow view that is wrong. The conservative feminist are alive and well and very much supported by our male counterparts. There are many black conservatives so your claims of racism are empty. To set you straight I’ll fill you in on the main feeling of most conservatives: We are all equal, we all have the right to persue happiness but if your happiness is found by laying around doing nothing it is not anyone elses obligation to take care of you. We don’t differentiate between Americans based on gender, race or where your family came from. We are all Americans. And since we are all Americans if we fail we all fail…you shouldn’t wish that on yourself.
“This is what was done in 1953 by the selfservatives. The minute they came into power, they created the disaster of which we are still paying for in Iran, Not to mention the hell they have brought to the Iranian people. All because of their cowardly fear of communists (and the general conservative me first greed characteristic, in this case BP oil). YOU DESTROYED A NATION THAT HAD A DEMOCRACY!”
Baloney. The Iranians, with a little bit of financial support from the United States, threw out a total dictator (Mosaddeq) and restored the half-assed constitutional monarchy the Iranians had before Mosaddeq seized power.
Obama’s late pronouncement of the events in Iran were spoken of as a protest for “justice.” I have been watching for the use of the word “freedom” in Obama-speak, and have been wanting.
The bombing of Iran was concerning a direct hit on the nuclear facility. Are you clowns on the left that stupid to think it was anything but?
KingKong.
You are in a fantasy world. You are a typical ill-educated and intellectually dishonest Liberal: Rewriting history so that you can project your vile “ideology” on it.
The whigs have nothing to do with the modern conservative movement. If anything there is a strong strain of Jacksonian populism in both the conservative movement and the rank and file GOP. If anyone resembles your notion of “Monarchical Loyalists” today it is the Democrat Party, the constituencey of which is almost wholly dependent on the state for their existence and, high and low, imagine that they are aristocrats and thus above he rest of us.
In any case your “analysis” of that time is wildly off the mark. No doubt you got this nonsense from one of your left wing “professors” or PBS, but in actuality, the struggle was between the old money and the free yeomen of the New Republic, Slavery and free labor, the National State and Federalism; not “Empire Loyalists” and “American Progressive Radicals”. That is just some fairy tale you have made up, or someone has fed you. It certainly was not a struggle between Marxism, moral relativism and multiculturalism on one hand and all that is decent, noble and true in Western Civilization on the other hand. No that is today’sstruggle, and we all know which side the “prgressives” are on.
(Oh and by the way, that eloquent dead beat Jefferson died in debt, screwed his creditors and got the government to help bail him out. A typical Democrat and a true Proto-Liberal.)
You do realize that the Democrat Party was the Party of Slavery, the Confederacy and Jim Crow? You do realize that the GOP grew out of the abolition movement? You do realize that most Blacks in this country voted GOP up until until the Democrats bought them off in the 1960′s? You do realize that the KKK was made up of Democrats?
Abraham Lincoln, that stuck in the mud reactionary. Who knew?
The Democrats were really “forward leaning” back then, eh?
The “National Republicans” of the immediate Post-Revolutionary period day have next to nothing to do with either the GOP or the Conservative Movement in this country.
You conveniently left out FDR and the pilfering and the tyrannical Statism of the New Deal, the reaction to which is of course the real root of the modern conservative movement.
The Democrat Party has been on the wrong side of everything since before the Civil War.
The Party that hustled up immigrant votes for their corrupt urban political machines, and made them dependent clients of the State. The Party of Corrupt Labor Unions (and their thuggish mob connections). The party of Communist Fellow Travelers and Traitors. The Party with absolute contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law. The Party of Lawyers. The Party of Investment Bankers and Hedge Funds. The Party of Welfare Bums. The Party of Trust Fund Brats. The Party of Parasitical Government Workers. The Party of Marxist Professors. The Party of Socialism, Communism and Collectivism. The Party of Ill-Educated Youths.
The Party that pilfered the Nation in the 1930′s and is out to do it again.
Some force for progress.
This notion that jumping up and down and screaming is “progress” is something that you need to overcome. Nor does resuscitating the failed ideologies of socialism and communism constitute “progress”. You “progressives” are in the end a quite reactionary lot. Well, that is being too kind for the sentiment implies that there is some sort of conscience in there somewhere in the first place. What you are are oppurtunists.
The Democrats are trying to relive the FDR years. Well, we may get a great depression out of it, but not “progress”. Rather the opposite.
There is not a liberal idea that is not toxin to our freedom, spirit, dignity and morality. “Progressive”? Anything but.
KingKong, you are not the force of progress; Far from it.
Civilized life is not about being a “revolutionary” or a radical”. There is nothing a priori noble, decent or moral about “revolution” or “change”, particularity when these things are undertaken for their own sake or self-gratification. Tossing away all of history in the juvenile belief that all who have gone before and who have preserved the hard won lessons of history are “stuck in the past” is lunacy, not “progress”, and those who think this are lunatics not “progressives”.
You Liberals are filed this terrible and fanatical belief that you have to “revolutionize” everything, that you know better, that the rest of the world should acknowledge your “visionary brilliance” and get out of the way and then, and only then, there will be a heaven on this earth. But very few things need to be “revolutionized”, particularly by the likes of you. You do not know better. You are not brilliant visionaries. You are arrogant, self-indulgent, rude, poorly educated, overgrown and uncivilized adolescents. Almost every problem that we have in this country is due to you people.
The greatest revolution on the earth was the combination of limited government, capitalism and the Judeo-Christian heritage, and its primary home was the good old USA. The greatest decadence, and the saddest sight, of this civilization is you Liberals tear down this great achievement, one that came through long centuries of hard and desparate struggle. And when it is gone, it will be almost impossible to bring back.
Let me tell you something: Working hard, self-reliance, bettering yourself, taking care of you and yours and keeping your hands off of other people’s money and your nose out of their business does more for the world than any and all the idiotic “progressive activism” of Liberal “progressives”.
That and sitting yourself down in a pew every Sunday morning (or a temple on Sat. too) and shutting up your mouths for 1 hour in a week.
Stop fooling yourself. It is you that is the brute. It is you that is the reactionary. It is you that is uncivilized. It is you that is immoral.
It is you that is mired in the past. It is you that stand in the way of freedom and progress.
Johnrj08,
What you say is true for some, but not true for others. I compliment the President for his approach on Afghanistan and Pakistan thus far. He has added needed firepower and combat forces. He has continued to employ Predators to take out targets of opportunity as they expose themselves. He has shown resolve in that theater.
He has not shown similar determination in Iran. He has shown weakness. I criticize him for that policy, it is pathetic. I expect that you can see the difference.
I do wonder if Obama was taking notes while watching Iran to see what actions he might take against those evil Tea Party people!
From June 2003
Open LETTER to the Free People of the World from IRANIAN Students
Jun 22, 2003
http://daneshjoo.org/publishers/interestingarticles/article_2734.shtml
Within the last few days, once more, thousands of our young have disappeared, imprisoned, maimed and killed. Their houses are being raided and everyone in sight raped.
Torture and terror are Regime’s proven methods of control; that is how they have sustained their power for the last two decades. To carry on their inhumane acts, their pillars of support: The alien terrorists of Hizbollah and other foreign mercenaries; for no decent Iranian could be as barbaric as they are.
These conniving and treasonous Mullahs are shedding the blood of our beloved students by the hands of those foreign terrorists whom the Regime has bought with the wealth of our nation.
In 1979, through deception and ignorance of the populace, intrigues and plots of Western powers, inept foreign policies of the United States and the support of hungry, backward and atrocious terrorists groups such as Hezbollah, and other Palestinian groups our blessed land was handed on a silver platter to a gang of corrupt and Godless Mullahs.
They hijacked a nation and took its population hostage under the sham of religion. They have forever shamed and disgraced an entire nation.
In a land blessed with abundance of natural resources, and one of the richest in the region, in the Capital City alone, 200,000 children are homeless wandering the streets, and, tragically, people are reduced to selling their body parts, for organ transplantation, to feed their families. Yet, the theocratic regime is spending billions on armaments.
For the last twenty-four years while the Iranian lives have deteriorated the riches of Iran are being emptied into the pockets of the Mullahs and the coffers of Hezbollah and other terrorists.
While Iranian children are going hungry the petroleum money buys arms and sustains those alien murderers in Lebanon and Palestine. The blood of Iranian youth is sucked by these Mullahs and fed to those leeches!
A gang of illiterate Mullah and their insatiable brood have latched onto the treasury of the country and hang to power through the brutality of the two million mercenaries they have bought. These traitors have hijacked an entire nation. Every sensitive organ of the country is in the control of these foreign terrorists.
In the land of Cyrus and Darius the head of the judiciary is an alien, and the country is run through layers and layers of terrorists.
Palestine is not our cause; Arab-Israeli conflict is not our fight.
Today, the adjective of terrorist follows us. You have done this to us, you ignorant gang of Mullahs! We want to belong to the human race once again; You have taken our nationality, identity, our heritage, our dignity and our honor. You have made every attempt to erase and deny us our nationalism and 7,000 years of history and civilization. We are not monsters like you hypocrite mendacious bunch of criminals.
How dare you claim to represent God on this earth? We would burn in Hell before we allow you to come between our God and us. You have already placed us in Hell on this earth; you have created a “Satanic Republic” and we are burning in it!
Alas, we have experienced and learned the bitter truth that it is greed, self-serving ambitions and hypocrisy that rule the world today. That is the reason we turn to you directly. You must demand from your governments and international organizations to intervene on our behalf, to relinquish a dying monstrous regime, and support our tortured students and our cause: Democracy and Secularism in Iran!
http://daneshjoo.org/publishers/interestingarticles/article_2734.shtml
77. Ms. Attitude: . . . “71. Whitey: . . . Is that you Sheesh?”
Nope, not me. Lots of people know McCain’s “Bomb Iran” diddy. Millions, in fact. (Wow, there’s a thought – millions of Sheeshes. Ponder that one.)
Mongoose
Liberal and conservative is not about ideology, it’s about conduct. It’s how you behave.
You don’t slap a title like Democrat and Republican and think they always follow the behaviors of being liberal or conservative.
I never mentioned the roles of what Democrats and Republicans held in our history. You did.
But you should learn to think for yourself and recognize by their deeds who was who.
For example, I am quiet aware of the militaristic Jackson being a Democrat, and as you stated Democrats were the party of states rights.
Yet, now who has been the proponents of states rights everytime they don’t get something their way, the Republicans.
Lincoln was accused of being an atheist in his campaign for presidency. He never went to church. He fought for a people that were not his own.
Now since when does a conservative have traits like that?
Are you saying the KKK are liberals?
I never mentioned Democrat or Republican, I’m talking about the disgusting behavior that conservatives commit to gain power.
Look to Iran right now. Are you telling me that, that religious fundamentals government is a liberal one?
And those modern students who are able to adapt to modern society conservative?
You’re nuts!
Your scatter brain kept mentioning things I didn’t mention, like revolution, or to even bring in cockamamie the Judeo-Christian establishment of America.
If it was, you Judeo-Christian mullahs would have made the fantasy filled myth-historical bible the law of the land and created what Iran is suffering from now.
Thanks to the 1500 years of the, aptly termed, Dark Ages when christians were the law of the land, that the new world would cast you aside from law.
You had your chance, and you blew it.
Talk about rewriting history!
Next you’ll be telling us in twenty years you fought for gay marriage.
You’re the spirit of hate, recognize it.
And your constant shrill complaint about socialism or about taxes. Go up to the mountains and live with yourself because in society where people live together, people throw into the pot to create a better society. Conservative are fundamentally cheap and greedy and don’t want to contribute to the greater good. It’s about cheapness, you’re cheap!
Because in a society, we all, or at least the civilized, like to have good roads, a police force, a military, a clean water supply, etc, and hopefully next, care for our fellow humans in sickness.
Liberals want to live in a higher standard of life, and all these things are stuff owned by the people of America. So your socialism jingo means nothing.
Yet we know you conservatives are not part of it, or begrudgingly are, but you benefit out of it.
The low standard of life always comes from conservatives, Coolidge and Hoover, that led to the great depression, Nixon and inflation, Reagan and 6 years of recession, Bush one and recession, Bush 2 recession and the mess Liberals have to clean up again. What is great about America, is what people remember from what Liberals established.
Like the prosperity since FDR!
Watch again, look at a simple symbol, Americans make the best cars in the world, but in the last 30/35 years have made crap, and the worst through that disaster of Reagan.
Watch again, how they will be the best in the world, how we will sell worldwide this time around with the new technologies WE ALREADY HAVE that we will finally make use of, and this will make them miles ahead of the rest of the world. This will happen in the liberal era we are entering again, finally.
It’s a simple one for you, just watch. Signs all over the world are showing we our coming out of this 30 year conservative depression.
By the way, without Jefferson, you have no America, no stuck in the mud conservative has the balls or imagination to come up with any innovation like America.
It’s against your nature, by the very definition, you keeps things the same, you don’t build the future.
KingKong – AKA another dumb monkey. Please type out something longer. The longer the post, the more we enjoy ignoring it. Although toxically stupid, it’s likely the only work you’ve ever done. It could be worse, however, this scary conservative could live next door to you. You’d be pooping your pants down there in your parents’ basement then, I suppose, eh bub? :0
King Kong:
Liberal and conservative is not about ideology, it’s about conduct. It’s how you behave.
What and completely idiotic comment. KingKing, of course it is. That is precisely what the terms denote. The conduct obviously flows from the ideology. What an unsupportable and imbecilic position you have staked out for yourself here. Not only do you seek to obscure hstory, you seek to obscure language itself. How very Democrat of you.
Every line in you “rebuttal” is full of howlers like this.
You do not address my points, you make up completely a fabricated history, you trumpet ignorance as knowledge and mistake propaganda for truth, sloganeering and venom for logic, and spleen for wisdom. You project you hatred on to me, and, BTW, it is hatred of self that you are really projecting, not even of our civilization. You do not understand it enough to even have honest hatred for it.
Above all, you call honest statements of truth “hatred”. This is the common dodge of all narcissists (and “Liberal Democrats”, but I repeat myself).
Again I make the charge: You are intellectually and morally a liar and a coward.
You do not realize it, but you are poivng my point, and most vividly I might add. I can assure you that neither you or Modern American “Liberals”–who are in fact not “liberal” at all but rather a gang of Marxists, Fascists ,Maoist, Trotskyites and other assorted Collectivist vipers, criminals, and hanger-ons–have absolutely nothing to do with the founding of this country, its long thriving or the success of our civilization, and, BTW, that success is built on the solid bedrock of centuries of development, and most particularly the development of Christianity.
There was no “revolution” 500 years ago that allowed us to advance by somehow “heaving off our backs a superstitious past”. That is just Marxism and Secular Humanist hogwash. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The founders of this nation of any political stripe would take one look at you creeps, hide the women and children and then tar and feather you and drive you out of town on a rail. Their only complaint with modern conservatives would be to point out fact that we have tolerated such vipers and unruly children for so long. They surely would not.
And the great creators of our civilization, The Beethovens, The Brahams, The Van Meers, the Newtons, the Galileos (that’s right, Galileo was a faithful Christian) and even the Einsteins would not claim you either,
“balls and innovation”? You have not the former and are incapable of the latter.
Go back and re-read my post. When you can make an intelligent, knowledgeable, honest and adult response, I will respond to it.
I certaily will not go further into the rubish of you last post.
you are poivng my point-you are proving my point
Van Meers= Vermeers
To: 50. maximus
Make no mistake about it, you and your people are responsible for your regimes nuclear stand, you and the Iranian people will face (locked down) insurmountable hardship because of these. If the Iranian people succeeded in changing their regime and attitude toward aspiring of nuclear bombs then the world would be nicer place to live.
By the way, Amadinajad and the mullahs, North Korea and Chaves think that they have the right stuff to intimidate US, there’re dreaming.
No point in having a discussions with airheads.
Nothing I said was addressed, you make you’re own irrelevant points.
You christians are as perverse as the distortion of Yeshua’s name.
Jeezahs did not die for your sins, he died because of your sins.
He was murdered!
He is a perfect example of how you SQUARE HEADS will always bow down to the liberals of the past and make gods out of them.
Christians murder him everyday by calling him god. Murdering his humanity in each utterance of your idolatrous title of god.
What part of idolatry don’t you understand.
Lesson over, now is the hard part, you have to think.
Oh, and Thomas L……:
Thanks for reading, ding dong!
King Kong: Such childishness.
Oh KK, if you keep it to the length of the last one, I can take it in at a glance. I’m fast like that. I read your first post on skeery conservatives, wherein you soiled yourself. Now, I only need to see your name and I move on. It makes it easier. Don’t become pithy on us. Type longer posts. Easier to ignore. I’ll keep it short too.
obama will do nothing that promotes freedom anywhere in the world, he is a tyrant and at present is busy consolidating his power base.
He is also exceptionally stupid, he is destroying the very foundation of our country that generated all that he seeks to have and spend, he will end up with a hand full of sand as his reward and a place in history beside hitler, stalin, mao and others of that ilk.
Ms. Attitude: #13
It ain’t that easy. If I gave you a AK-47 and 2 magazines would you know how to load it and shoot it? How about a RPG?
The people you will be starting a gunfight with practice. That means they are better then you.
When it comes to firefights, OJT is not the way to go.
Dumping small arms into Iran will up the body count without changing the results.
Hey Mongoose. Those neighbor kids are on your lawn again.
PAT J: No, they are in my wallet and our Constitution.
Readers might be interested in a prescient 2006 report that traces the history of Iranian women’s struggles for their rights. Iranian women have long allocated funds for women’s empowerment, by working with civil society groups, and by organizing workshops and educational programs. They are also leading in the use of electronic and mass media as part of their push for rights. Its key finding? “The struggle for women’s rights is fully intertwined with the larger struggle for democracy.” The report can be found at: http://www.huntalternatives.org/iran.cfm