Comments on: Progressive Rabbis: Be Still My Bleeding Heart http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:21:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-222794 deguello Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:36:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-222794 Shouldn't this suicidal mental affliction be called:"progressive Rabies"? Shouldn’t this suicidal mental affliction be called:”progressive Rabies”?

]]> By: Marc Malone http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-220230 Marc Malone Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:56:37 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-220230 #15 Oscar - You're right... and that's why our legal system is such a mess. Attorneys routinely pursue one side of an argument, then later in the trial, pursue the other side. It's not about right and wrong. It's about scoring points in a game. Whoever scores the most points wins. This is how Jews argue. They get lost in the argument and miss the point entirely. There are simply absolute rights and wrongs, and they have orders of importance. It's like the Ten Commandments. #1 is, "I am the Lord...." That trumps everything else... and for good reason. Self-discovery is nonsense. That path leads to moral relativism. That's why so many Jews end up voting far-left, against the existential interests of Jews as a race. The U.S. has always supported Israel, because we believe that "Thou shalt not Murder!" ranks way up there in terms of righteousness. They want to kill all the Jews, and we won't let them. Moral relativism undermines that. It allows the alleged grievances of "Palestinians" to be used as justification for genocide. I'm sorry, but "Thou shalt not Murder." trumps the petty grievances of the other side. With this in mind, suddenly, propoganda becomes ineffective, and the bleeding hearts stop bleeding. One's values have to be rooted firmly in some absolutes, or you just blow with the wind and all arguments become equal. #15 Oscar – You’re right… and that’s why our legal system is such a mess. Attorneys routinely pursue one side of an argument, then later in the trial, pursue the other side. It’s not about right and wrong. It’s about scoring points in a game. Whoever scores the most points wins.

This is how Jews argue. They get lost in the argument and miss the point entirely. There are simply absolute rights and wrongs, and they have orders of importance. It’s like the Ten Commandments. #1 is, “I am the Lord….” That trumps everything else… and for good reason.

Self-discovery is nonsense. That path leads to moral relativism. That’s why so many Jews end up voting far-left, against the existential interests of Jews as a race. The U.S. has always supported Israel, because we believe that “Thou shalt not Murder!” ranks way up there in terms of righteousness. They want to kill all the Jews, and we won’t let them.

Moral relativism undermines that. It allows the alleged grievances of “Palestinians” to be used as justification for genocide. I’m sorry, but “Thou shalt not Murder.” trumps the petty grievances of the other side. With this in mind, suddenly, propoganda becomes ineffective, and the bleeding hearts stop bleeding. One’s values have to be rooted firmly in some absolutes, or you just blow with the wind and all arguments become equal.

]]> By: Oscar the Grump http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218620 Oscar the Grump Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:30:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218620 Jewish thought is based on the Talmud which is argument and counter agruement. (Aristotle way of teaching) That is why three Jews can have five opinions. There are higher moral judgements of right or wrong. The individual has to arrive at the proper conclusion. Its sort of a self discovery. This "pathetic" process is the foundation of all western ethics. Spinoza, a converted Jew, translated much of this process for Christianity and it became the basis of law and ethics. Jewish thought is based on the Talmud which is argument and counter agruement. (Aristotle way of teaching) That is why three Jews can have five opinions. There are higher moral judgements of right or wrong. The individual has to arrive at the proper conclusion. Its sort of a self discovery. This “pathetic” process is the foundation of all western ethics.
Spinoza, a converted Jew, translated much of this process for Christianity and it became the basis of law and ethics.

]]> By: Marc Malone http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218463 Marc Malone Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:49:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218463 Put three Jews in a room, and you get five opinions. This is why they deliver up their own. Everything right and wrong is equivalent. There are not things more important or right than others. Pathetic. Put three Jews in a room, and you get five opinions. This is why they deliver up their own. Everything right and wrong is equivalent. There are not things more important or right than others. Pathetic.

]]> By: Bug Eye Guy http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218409 Bug Eye Guy Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:29:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218409 Get your banjos folks, its singin time (Tune goes to the Beverly Hill Billys) Did you hear the story bout a man named Sheff Had a pallet that was only slightly cleff then one day he was messin with some Jews Got told off and now he paid his dues Sheff my boy heres a lesson that is dear The way you sound is mighty q*eer What you need is to get off this here blog take some time and spend it with your dog House that is Water bowl scraps of chow Now I know this won't change your mind If you were here I'd kick your behind So if you really don't want to lose For God sake, don't mess with them Jews thank you folks, thank you very much. Get your banjos folks, its singin time
(Tune goes to the Beverly Hill Billys)

Did you hear the story bout a man named Sheff
Had a pallet that was only slightly cleff
then one day he was messin with some Jews
Got told off and now he paid his dues
Sheff my boy heres a lesson that is dear
The way you sound is mighty q*eer
What you need is to get off this here blog
take some time and spend it with your dog
House that is
Water bowl
scraps of chow
Now I know this won’t change your mind
If you were here I’d kick your behind
So if you really don’t want to lose
For God sake, don’t mess with them Jews

thank you folks, thank you very much.

]]> By: Martin http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218405 Martin Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:19:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218405 I met one of these. The guy 'Rabbi' said he was responsible for the Gillette shaver slogan. And he proudly announced that he accepted money from CAIR for an advertising campaign! He waxed on about chairing a UN meeting and that religious unity is a matter of dialogue and that he has written numerous books - my God he really believed what he was saying. I challenged him at the dinner table where he was holding forth on the keys to world peace :) "OK mate" I asked him, "given you've never visited the MEMRI site, and you casually accept money from CAIR members of which are constantly being indicted for terrorism etc, and you seem to know how to achieve peace - how bad is the anti-Semitism in the Middle East? If its a matter of dialogue. Who are the kind of people Israel should dialogue with?" Evasion "No come on mate - you tell us how bad it is?" "Well it could be better." "No you were speaking with authority - tell us exactly how bad it is." Realising the facts were indisputable. He said. "Its pretty bad" I stood up, and excused myself from the table. They have to be confronted, their delusions will only expand otherwise. These individuals are contemptible. I met one of these.

The guy ‘Rabbi’ said he was responsible for the Gillette shaver slogan. And he proudly announced that he accepted money from CAIR for an advertising campaign! He waxed on about chairing a UN meeting and that religious unity is a matter of dialogue and that he has written numerous books – my God he really believed what he was saying.

I challenged him at the dinner table where he was holding forth on the keys to world peace :) “OK mate” I asked him, “given you’ve never visited the MEMRI site, and you casually accept money from CAIR members of which are constantly being indicted for terrorism etc, and you seem to know how to achieve peace – how bad is the anti-Semitism in the Middle East? If its a matter of dialogue. Who are the kind of people Israel should dialogue with?”

Evasion

“No come on mate – you tell us how bad it is?”

“Well it could be better.”

“No you were speaking with authority – tell us exactly how bad it is.” Realising the facts were indisputable. He said.

“Its pretty bad”

I stood up, and excused myself from the table.

They have to be confronted, their delusions will only expand otherwise. These individuals are contemptible.

]]> By: Turkey Brain http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218320 Turkey Brain Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:37:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218320 Gobble gobble Sheff you're stoopid! Gobble gobble Gobble gobble

Sheff you’re stoopid!

Gobble gobble

]]> By: Oscar the Grump http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218295 Oscar the Grump Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:08:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218295 Shef Rogers What you cooking buddy? They are worse than the Arabs. Arabs simply are loyal to their beliefs. These "guys" have turned their back to their beliefs and their people. Groups like Peace Now are shown on Arab TVs. It affirms them and their cause. We had Jews who led other Jews to the gas chambers. They were called Kapos. These "guys" stiffen Arab resolve and convince the Arabs that they're right. There-by they cost Israel more Jewish lives. If you think I'm crazy, so be it. Bigot yes, i'm proud of it. Shef Rogers
What you cooking buddy? They are worse than the Arabs. Arabs simply are loyal to their beliefs. These “guys” have turned their back to their beliefs and their people. Groups like Peace Now are shown on Arab TVs. It affirms them and their cause. We had Jews who led other Jews to the gas chambers. They were called Kapos. These “guys” stiffen Arab resolve and convince the Arabs that they’re right. There-by they cost Israel more Jewish lives.

If you think I’m crazy, so be it. Bigot yes, i’m proud of it.

]]> By: David Levavi http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218254 David Levavi Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:53:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218254 Shef: I can't help wondering what "ethnic attachment" you "absorbed in childhood," Shef and whether it influences your lofty opinions. Have the courage to respond and let's do an honest comparison of ethnics and attitude. Shef:

I can’t help wondering what “ethnic attachment” you “absorbed in childhood,” Shef and whether it influences your lofty opinions.

Have the courage to respond and let’s do an honest comparison of ethnics and attitude.

]]> By: Shef Rogers http://pjmedia.com/blog/progressive-rabbis-be-still-my-bleeding-heart/#comment-218252 Shef Rogers Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:39:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=48800#comment-218252 These bleeding-heart rabbis sound like decent people, trying to reconcile their sense of compassion with the ethnic attachment they absorbed in childhood. Most of the respondents here have resolved that tension in a more brutally simple manner, opting for ethnic loyalty above all else. Not surprising, not unusual, but hardly something to be proud of. These bleeding-heart rabbis sound like decent people, trying to reconcile their sense of compassion with the ethnic attachment they absorbed in childhood. Most of the respondents here have resolved that tension in a more brutally simple manner, opting for ethnic loyalty above all else. Not surprising, not unusual, but hardly something to be proud of.

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