Profiling? Heavens, Not Us!
A few years ago, my wife and I traveled on the Eurostar train from Paris to London. When the train arrived at Waterloo Station (today Eurostar operates from St. Pancras), we disembarked with the other passengers and filed down a long walkway toward the terminal exit. A line of pillars ran down the center of the walkway, and standing with his back to the last of these pillars and inspecting the passing crowd was a gray-haired man in his mid-fifties. Our eyes met for the briefest of moments, and as I passed him I gave a little nod of recognition, a gesture he returned before turning his attention to those who followed me.
The encounter, if one can even label it as such, lasted no more than a second or two, but in that fleeting moment I recognized the gray-haired man as a plainclothes policeman of some sort, a detective from Scotland Yard, perhaps, or maybe an agent from MI5. And just as I recognized him for what he was, I’m confident he recognized me as an American policeman.
Yes, we had profiled each other. We each had used our experience and powers of observation to form an instantaneous opinion about the other. In that span of a second or two I had noticed him, sized him up, and recognized what he was doing there in the train station, all while he was doing the same to me. My wife and I went on our way, and the gray-haired man remained in his spot watching the arriving passengers for anyone who might invite further scrutiny.
When profiling is done properly, by trained and experienced men and women, it is most often no more intrusive than my encounter with that man in the train station. I doubt any of my fellow passengers gave the man so much as a thought as they passed him, even as he was forming his opinions about every single one of them. But occasionally there might be someone, besides the occasional vacationing policeman, who might be aware of the gray-haired man’s attention and indeed be discomfited by it a good deal more than I was that day at Waterloo Station: a drug smuggler, perhaps, a wanted criminal, or even a terrorist.
“Profiling” is such a charged word these days, so freighted with images of people being singled out and inconvenienced at best or detained and even jailed at worst for no other reason than their membership in this or that minority group. But profiling is nonetheless a legitimate and effective technique for identifying people more likely than others to be involved in criminal activity or terrorism, and with the manifest failure of various government entities to prevent Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and his incendiary skivvies from boarding a U.S.-bound airliner on Christmas Day, it is a technique we should be less shy about embracing.
Yes, heaven forbid they profile a 66 year old Christian black man.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/01/05/guard_attacker_killed_in_las_vegas_shootout/
Or an eighty eight year old white man.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/museum.shooting/index.html
Or a forty two year old Vietnamese immigrant.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/03/AR2009040303554.html
There’s an excellent post re: profiling on the Sultan Knish site this morning, well worth reading.
There is a problem with this article. In Israel, you are profiled before check in. However, you also go through the same luggage / metal detector screening before you are able to enter the boarding area. I’m not sure Ben Gurion Airport is always faster than those in the U.S. Perhaps it usually is, but once I happened to arrive at the same time as about one hundred Americans who were going back to the U.S. from a sightseeing tour of the religious sites, and I can assure you I glanced at my watch quite a few times while I stood there. Plus, before that you have to wait in line to be “interrogated.” Now, I was not an Israeli, so perhaps that process takes longer for me that for a native. However, I don’t think that profiling would necessarily make airport screening faster, just more effective.
“My wife and I went on our way, and the gray-haired man remained in his spot watching the arriving passengers for anyone who might invite further scrutiny.”
Nah – he was just wondering whether that weird guy was going to come back and hit on him.
You’re so quaint.
I couldn’t agree with the writer more. My rule, for some time now, has been that airport security is designed to inconvenience the traveling public as evenly as possible, rather than catching terrorists. I recently came across another way of putting it, on another page on Pajamas, that I like a great deal: Security Theater. The idea is that to the unthinking person, it seems like the authorities are doing their best to stop terrorism. Most, if not all, of the things implemented won’t prevent any acts of terrorism, but they make everyone feel safer, and that’s the point in the first place.
As I’ve said in the past, my favorite is when they single out a celebrity, look at his passport and confirm his identity, and then continue to detain and search him, to avoid being seen to give him preferential treatment. Does anyone think that’s a good allocation of resources?
When I see “moderate” Muslims taking to the street in angry protest – expressing outrage over the action of fanatical Muslims, I will listen to the profiling argument. The silence of so-called peace-loving Muslims speaks more loudly than the atrocities of their brethren.
Until then, I must assume the peace-loving Muslims are silently in agreement with and secretly supportive of the fanatics. Sorry, that is the way life works.
Good article JD.
Mark Steyn has had the best analogy regarding profiling that I’ve heard. Steyn said in every crime drama you’ve ever seen the detectives are trying to solve the case by posting multiple pictures of possible suspects. They study and try to figure out what the suspects have in common. What could it possibly be that links the suspects together. After much chin pulling and head scratching they find a common theme.
Our TSA officials refuse to see the common theme and instead put up the pictures of every person in the airport.
Why is it “profiling” when you single out someone due to attributes known to be common to terrorists, but it’s not “profiling” when an abortion clinic is located near a concentration of a specific race, color, or creed considered to be more prone to seeking an abortion?
This profiling crap is totally out of hand and has been for quite some time. There is no difference between locating a police or fire department facility based on the changing pattern of residential growth and narrowing searches down based on the need to focus limited resources on high probability characteristics rather than wasting the resources available.
have a nice day
“It’s the Jihad, stupid!”
We must all be inconvenienced so that none of us is offended.
My experience has been that we are all inconvenienced so that all of us are offended. And yes, your point about having a person that is expert in profiling is an excellent one. It has worked for years with the Israelis. My suggestion is that we simply not allow any Muslim to fly or travel to the US. That would eliminate 99% of the incoming terrorists and offend the PC crowd to the breaking point. I don’t know which would be more valuable.
A question for the TSA/DHS: Is it possible to determine, without searching, who does not need to be searched?
Ironic that the TSA approach of not looking at anyone is somehow the diametric opposite of the Jihadist approach of ‘Kill everyone’.
I don’t get the left. They would rather risk or in fact doom Americans to death rather than risk violating one of their ethereal sacred cows by employing racial/ethnic and behavior profiling.
We can debate abortion, disagree about the size of the government, criticize each side regarding illegal immigration, and upset each other over the meaning of diversity and affirmative action.
But to even remotely put American lives at risk because the left believes that feelings are more important than lives is just simply irrational. Or is it because of their self loathing and hatred of white America and Americans? Do progressives hate their own race so much that they could care less if white Americans die (most flyers are white and while there may be some minorities on board they must be sacrificed for the cause) just so they can look and feel egalitarian and righteous?
What values and rights are being violated in order to protect American lives? Is profiling in conflict with our Constitution or Bill of Rights? Even the Declaration of Independence has the clause life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; so protecting our citizens to me is paramount to hurting the feelings of a perceived oppressed and aggreived minority-muslims. A muslim that, so for only a few exceptions, is not an American citizen no less. Then again progressives want all world citizens to be granted American citizenship and Constitutional rights. Forgot that tidbit.
If as has been said, that not all muslims are terrorists, but all foreign terrorists (currently waging jihad against the US) are muslims were not true; and if imams were not calling for jihad against the US both here and abroad; and if terrorist supporters were not Islamic fundamentalists then there could be a case against profiling of ME men between the ages of 18-30.
When the first 72 year old, white haired grandmother is caught yelling “allah akbar” and pulls the detonator of her own volition then racial profiling will be useless.
Why, oh why can’t we emulate the most effective and efficient airport security on earth, the Israelis’?
Unfortunately I’m afraid that to ask the question is to answer it.
This is happening every where, i call it the “the lowest common denominator effect”. That being we drag everyone down to the lowest individual or group.
We see this in schools, politics, health care reform, and in our security measures.
Could also be called “minority ruled”. To not offend or upset the few in the minority we must all be dragged down to that level.
None of this is good good anyone, those at the bottom or those being dragged down!!!!
Yes. What you said. Unfortunately, I don’t see us ever following a clear-headed policy of effective profiling, because of all the special interest whining & wailing that would follow. What dreadful racist people we are to actually be suspicious of those most likely to commit a crime or a terrorist action!
I am so frustrated that I might even burst out in tears. Even Jack Dunphy is not saying one word concerning the Griggs vs. Duke Power court decision and the other affirmative action “remedies” imposed on our national security entities. It is literally illegal to hire the best and the brightest. Race, ethnicity, and gender issues must be considered. In one-way or another, a certain percentage of minorities must be on the payroll—even if they are marginally illiterate. One can take for granted that the average security employee is a second rate mediocrity. And that may especially be true of their bosses. There is little sense talking about the improvement of passenger security until Griggs vs. Duke Power is reversed in the U.S. Supreme Court. What is the chance of that occurring in the near future? Dunphy and I probably have a better chance of humiliating Kobe Bryant on the basketball court. In other words, we will remain in tremendous danger.
It is stupid to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to screen people we KNOW are not terrorists. Instead of profiling for the bad guys, why not profile for the known NON terrorists? Like the little old ladies in wheelchairs. There can be a point system based on age, country of origen, sex, religion if known, etc.
Three screening techniques: low risk (for low points), the regular one, and high risk (high number of points-young, male, etc). Low risk travelors will breeze through, and everyone won’t feel thatour government is full of stupid people
1. Alice Nolin:
Yes, heaven forbid they profile a 66 year old Christian black man.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/01/05/guard_attacker_killed_in_las_vegas_shootout/
Or an eighty eight year old white man.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/museum.shooting/index.html
Or a forty two year old Vietnamese immigrant.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/03/AR2009040303554.html
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Of those three how many used planes? How many have decades of history of using planes? How many are part of a group that has declared war on non-muslims? How many were motivated by islam? How many fit the age and religion of the last 5 terrorist attacks using planes?
Intellectual honesty. Try it.
Matthew:
“My wife and I went on our way, and the gray-haired man remained in his spot watching the arriving passengers for anyone who might invite further scrutiny.”
Nah – he was just wondering whether that weird guy was going to come back and hit on him.
You’re so quaint.
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Matthew, you sound jealous.
But, our government is full of stupid people.
#8 has it right. “It’s the jihad, stupid.” Bicker all you want about profiling. As profiling improves, the enemy will simply change tactics. The solution will have to be one notch more draconian than the problem.
Steven
“As profiling improves, the enemy will simply change tactics.”
You have a distorted understanding regarding rational profiling. It is merely the logical attempt to put the odds on your side. Rational profiling is based entirely on probabilities. It is imperative that our security people are trained in such a manner—to educationally prepare themselves for the possible blue eyed and blond haired Muslim extremist! Race and ethnic characteristics are just among a number of factors.
#22 Maybe I do have a distorted understanding of profiling. Maybe. Who cares? That’s not my point. As they change tactics, profiling becomes meaningless. Profile? We may not even see an attacker the next time, much less even have an opportunity to profile his blond blue eyed(ness). Nope. Profiling is merely treating a symptom. If we don’t deal with the true enemy, those who fund and provide ideological support for these soldiers of Allah, we lose.
Steven
I just found this article by Daniel Pipes on Front Page Magazine. It deals with rational profiling and how the Israeli security people conduct their interviews of passengers. Please note they were able to prevent a terrorist attack by an unwitting Irish woman being played as a sucker by her Palestinian boyfriend!:
““What is the purpose of your trip to Israel?” Recalling Hindawi’s instructions, Murphy answered, “For a vacation.”
“Are you married, Miss Murphy?” “No.”
“Traveling alone?” “Yes.”
“Is this your first trip abroad?” “Yes.”
“Do you have relatives in Israel?” “No.”
“Are you going to meet someone in Israel?” “No.
“Has your vacation been planned for a long time?” “No.”
“Where will you stay while you’re in Israel?” “The Tel Aviv Hilton.”
“How much money do you have with you?” “Fifty pounds.” The Hilton at that time costing at least £70 a night, he asked:
“Do you have a credit card?” “Oh, yes,” she replied, showing him an i.d. for cashing checks.
That did it, and the agent sent her bag for additional inspection, where the bombing apparatus was discovered.”
http://tinyurl.com/yzmos6n
Mr. Dunphy, out of curiosity, if you were the gray-haired man watching passengers, how do you think you’d profile Michael Yon who is now claiming to have been arrested in Seattle upon trying to re-enter the United States? My guess is that you might have wanted a little more information on him and found a way to approach him, based merely upon his appearance and how he carries himself. What do you think?
“Are these your suitcases? Has anyone asked you to carry their luggage for them? Have you removed your belt and any metal items you are carrying and placed them in this nice plastic box? Have you removed your shoes and placed them in this nice plastic box? Have you placed your 4oz or smaller liquid containers in a standard size baggy and put it on top of your pile in this nice plastic box?”
Soon the TSA will direct its employees to ask the following: “Are you a jihadist Muslim?” Be careful here, it is a trick question and the wrong answer could get you behind the partition for a body cavity search. The right answer will make all of your fellow travelers safer, I’m sure.
We should profile all passengers.
Phranc@18 – Are you in the same conversation? But if it makes you happy, we can have museum guards and school principals profile their bailiwicks for nutcases too. Nobody here would have much of a problem with it. However, the adults here were talking about acts of war, perpetrated by individuals who represent an idealogy that has declared such a war and have openly boasted about the methods they will use. I can’t believe you actually can’t tell the difference. You wouldn’t be a troll, would you?
It’s the jihad stupid!
I just came back from a trip within the USA, and I think security is ridiculous. All you need is a few good people walking around the airport to (oh my god…..) PROFILE, a few dogs and a metal detector. No lines, no removing shoes or strip search machines. Don’t like dogs…tough! I don’t like the thought of some pervert sitting behind the new “strip search” machine they’re trying to push, or being patted down like criminals are. But the powers that be seem to want to make everyone miserable except those who should be suspect. And for crying out loud, they need to lose the PC.
Today I was watching something on the news, and at an airport (I don’t know which one or if was even here in the US), there was a muslim woman in line, covered from head to toe, in black, only eyes showing. Sorry…pull her out! Force facial identification and dropping the veil for as long as she is at an airport or in the air. Pat down the long, loose robes. After all, if the aim is security, I for one would feel better seeing her have to drop her veil and know the long robes, which CAN hide about anything have been checked, then the 10 people ahead of me putting their shoes in bins. Don’t like it, don’t fly. That’s what the rest of us are told!
But, I know. That is not the “politically correct” way to look at things. Tough!
Quote for emphasis:
“steve4libertyinSC:
This is happening every where, i call it the “the lowest common denominator effect”. That being we drag everyone down to the lowest individual or group.
We see this in schools, politics, health care reform, and in our security measures.
Could also be called “minority ruled”. To not offend or upset the few in the minority we must all be dragged down to that level.
None of this is good for anyone, those at the bottom or those being dragged down!!!!”
I wonder what the founding fathers would think about a supreme court repressing the American people’s liberties in regards to the failed social engineering that they’ve imposed for the last 6 decades. I can’t help but imagine that the revolutionary heroes who paid with their blood for the “liberty” of their children would not have let this happen. We have lost our identity, and as such we are loosing what made us great.
On top of this loss of our individuality we are being forced to conform to treating peoples with respect who do not deserve it, paying for sycophants’ welfare with my tax money, and allowing our school children to be subjected to the base abuses of ungrateful scum who don’t want to learn and don’t belong in schools or even in a civilized society.
Wait until the next terrorist brings down a plane with a bomb hidden in his rectum. The TSA will redouble its efforts at stopping those violent extremists by giving full body cavity searches to toddlers, grandmas with hip implants, boy scouts, Irish nuns and elderly men in wheelchairs. But if anyone dare do that to a Muslim man or a burka-clad person (terrorist men have hid behind those), CAIR and the ACLU will be screaming PROFILING and RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION.
Remember, kids, in PC multiculti America, it is better that 300 innocent men, women and children die in an airplane explosion than Mr. Muslim get his feelings hurt.
Wait until a plane comes down with a family member of a big congressman.
Until then…Obama will stand behind his less than adequate choices, the world will cringe, Obama will vacation and play golf somewhere, and Muslims will rejoice in their disgusting behvior .
We aren’t gonna do a darned thing about this…nothing, nada, zilch…
no guts anymore..we might offend someone, like a Muslim.
When I was a teenager I ran off to Paris thinking I could make it like Hemingway did…Of course, I found myself quickly going under in gay Paree and decided to try to get to Ireland where I had some friends from a previous overseas excursion. On the ferry to England, I had to stand in line to get my passport stamped, at which point, (I surmise it was due to my being dressed like a rock star,(I was a fan of U2) and seeing the Irish stamp on my passport. Terrorisim alerts in the 80′s were high in N. Ireland.), the agent told me to step aside and wait. Me and a kid from Morroco were taken to a holding area where I was then patted down, my luggage was completely searched and strewn about, (they even read through my diary) and thoroughly questioned. When I told them I had little money and was trying to get to Ireland to contact friends and maybe find some work, they denied me entrance. Even as a tourist. They held me overnight until the next ferry arrived and then sent me and the Morrocan back to Paris. Maybe they thought I was a drug dealer or something. I was not. Eventually I had to call a friend back in the US to wire me money so I could fly back to the US. All I remember is the security guy in the holding area was kind of a snot…Anyways, profiling doesn’t bother me…but it’s those “better safe then sorry” judgement calls that sometimes make things hard on mostly innocent folks…and escalate into bigger problems. I mean when I was younger I used to get pulled over in my junky car driving to New York City to play in folk clubs because the police thought, (I surmise), that I was a drug dealer…One time I had a police car literally circle me on the Taconic Parkway, then pulled me over, the officer searched my vehicle,(even my peanut butter and jelly sandwich was inspected) and then he gave me a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt…I was pretty poor and that ticket cost me a lot of money…It was pretty clear that wasn’t the reason I was pulled over. I wasn’t angry but it was a setback in my life…A weeks paycheck out the window that I needed.
Profiling or following criminal trends and patterns? It may be profiling to some, but many (maybe even Mr. Dunphy) follow trends and history of those that have committed crime based on data, training, education, and experience. If that is profiling, then so be it. If extremist Muslim young Males are committing the lion’s share of terrorism (which at least with air travel they are), then shouldn’t the professionals focus on them more? To make air travel safer from attack it may be necessary to investigate and employ the best possible, affordable, and effective anti-terror methods and equipment available for such a large jet-setting American public (700 million/year). We do not do that now. We have created a bunch of government looking retirees dressed in official uniforms monitoring if we put our shoes in the bin and didn’t pack the big tube of toothpaste. One of America’s issues is that it appears that even after 9-11, it is still too sensitive and politically correct to enhance security in a meaningful manner without the fear of infringing on the civil rights of certain groups.
Flying is not a right, it’s a privilege and to partake in privileges we may have to surrender more niceties. And no, the terrorists don’t win if we do this. After 9-11 and two wars, how can Americans rightfully gripe about more security for air travel? It should not take more tragedy to support real solutions for security with quality, thoughtful people at the pointy end of it. Do I believe air travel is safe? It’s only as safe as the people we have entrusted to check the passengers, aircraft, and cargo. I don’t feel especially safe with the TSA or any other newly formed government entity that was thrown together in haste and has no real core competence in their respective field.
I am concerned that I had to scroll down so far to see comments about airport employees. Canada has just committed itself to 44 250,000 dollar body scanners yet we continue to use “rent a cop” individuals to do our handling of passengers through secuity, making, I’m sure, not much more than minimum wage. Ottawa airport for years was staffed with RCMP special constables who knew every corner of the airport and the staff employed. They worked there on a daily basis. They were replaced by city of Ottawa police who are rotated in and out. You’d have to look far and wide to find one in view. The difference? I feel less security because of lack of familiarity of the whole workplace. What is going on in the secure part of the airport? Who is putting my luggage on and off the plane? What kind of background checks do we perform on all employees before they can work there, in front of the public or behind the scenes? In other words who is scanning the scanners? We need answers to these questions before I’ll feel comfortable.
From Age of Tolerance by G. Reinsford (an alternate reality nightmare novel, which may soon become our reality):
President Al Gore: “…there was some good news that came out of 9/11 that made me proud. Not a single one of the nineteen Arab hijackers had been racially profiled at the airport. Now that’s something to feel good about!”
Angle fishers go to the ponds where there are fishes.
Or said in other terms you apply probability calculus: if only one in a million old white women is likely to have contacts with islamic terrorists against one in ten of Arab or pakistani men clad in 7th century Arab clothes (in fact a lot higher than one in ten: “moderate muslims” don’t wear such clothes) it doesn’t make sense to give the same amount of attention to teh old white woman than to the pakistani man.
Now you keep your eyes open (the woman could be one of those crazy leftists who hate the West so intensely she could help islamists just like her predecessors helped Nazis) or someone could have placed a bomb in her luggage, but giving her the same amount of attention than to a the 7th century man is not only silly, it is alos counterproductive since the time spent on the woman should be better spent on the islamist sympathizer.
Our enemies have already adjusted their Airliner tactics to our changes in airport security over the last thirty year. Their 9-11 plan wouldn’t work with today’s passengers, so they’ve gone to shoe and “Fruit-of-the-Boom” bombers. Profile Muslims at airports and they’ll go to shopping malls. Don’t get me wrong. We must have airport security. But also, we must slap the Saudi enablers hard. Real hard.
Steven
Your TSA hard at work protecting us from terrorists:
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/01/05/2010-01-05_agent_saves_flight_from_joan_rivers.html
JFM: maybe TSA thought that al queda hid plastic explosives in her plastic surgery implants. I feel so much better now that the brave folks at TSA protected us from Joan Rivers! After that crotch bombing attempt, TSA is about to double down on extra screening for old white women!
But profiling is nonetheless a legitimate and effective technique for identifying people more likely than others to be involved in criminal activity or terrorism
THANK YOU..for having the “rocks” to step outside of the all to familiar PC boundries and say how it is..rather then what other would like to hear…you da man.
What does a terrorist look like? Like Osama bin Laden? Maybe, but wasn’t Timothy McVeigh a terrorist? Wasn’t the Unabomber (Theodore Kaczynski)a terrorist? He nearly took down a plane hence the name UNA(University/Airline) Bomber. The IRA was once a terrorists organization, also, wasn’t the SLA (Symbionese Liberation Army) also a terrorist organization that the LAPD had a war with and won? So please, tell me, what does a terrorist look like? Guess what, we don’t know. But there are two ways to make sure that terrorists would NEVER have the opportunity to board our plane or land in the U.S. and it would save us a lot of money.
01) Do what Israel does. Ask some simple question:
A)What is your purpose for visiting Israel
B)Where will you be going?
And this is at the check-in gate at any international airport around the world. Could we not do the same? If the answer is not satisfactory, the person cannot board.
02) Do what Congressman Ron Paul says: Stop occupying the Middle East. If that sounds nuts, then why hasn’t Al Qaeda attacking Sweden? Because they’re not occupying any Asian nations.
So instead of profiling, use good tactics. There has never been a hijack on el Al, the Israeli airlines. Why? Because they use simple tactics. Also, being a cop, you know about the salt and pepper teams. One person may be an Asian with a full beard, a cloth on their head and from Iran and his partner may look like Timothy McVeigh. Which will you profile? Pick the wrong one and you may have killed hundreds if not millions of Angelinos. Also, why didn’t we use the same tactics Israel uses prior to 9/11? Maybe because Halliburton and Blackwater needed work at the expense of work furlough for the LAPD…hmmm.
I’ll never forget going through Leonardo DaVinci airport in the late 80s, where you had to walk through the very long serpentine to get past the Carabineri standing behind a belt fed machine gun. I felt very nervous once I saw what I was walking toward, and very safe once I was past. If we are going to have security, by God don’t pussyfoot around! Machine guns at the entrances, full luggage checks, full pat downs, the whole 9 yards. Once we remove the airlines as a viable target, the terrorists will find something else to blow up, something cool, like shopping malls! and then we get to do it all over again. We can NEVER, EVER win this with metal detectors. We have to get to the root of the problem and either kill all of the people doing this or change their minds. Sweet mother of God, we have a bunch of losers who think the path to religious fullfillment is routed through a debris field full of dead Americans. Now Iran is close to getting nuclear weapons. I feel sorry for the New Yorkers when they pop one of those off in NY Harbor. Best of luck
G
We could save money, time, frustration and lives if the U.S. government would just target those who
actually look, act and speak like terrorist. Those who come from terrorist countries and are on the no fly list. If screeners would leave little gray haired grandmas from Peoria alone this whole search and detect
thing could go a lot smoother. Do I care if Muslims get their feelings hurt or are delayed a little, no I
Don’t. STOP TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL THE SAME…WE ARE NOT! They are trying to kill us! Open your eyes!
When a serial killer is on the loose the first thing the FBI does is work up a probable profile of the offender.
Can’t quite see the difference when you are dealing with a “Serrial religion” which unequivicolly states it wishes
to rid the woeld of all unbelievers. Why would we tie the hands of those who’s job it is to protect us??
Liberals claimed that racial and religious profiling cannot work because of the predicted onslaught of terror bombings by the blond 70 year old Swedish-looking grannies. Now, I’ve seen a lot of those grannies stripped-searched in the airport, but I haven’t heard of any terrorists who were blond, blue eyed 70 year old grannies. If anything, the last few years proved decisively, that the ONLY contingent active in the Al Qaeda suicide movement are either the racial minorities (mostly middle-Eastern) or children of white liberals who have became an easy pray to islamic indoctrination – and who should be easy to spot by the FBI.
Read more on my blog.
so 44 comments in and nobody and I mean nobody mentioned the real ‘root’ problem, and you all think you ‘get it’. You don’t, any more than the loony Left, you skirt around it. Yes we need profiling, yes Jihad is the problem, yes airport security is a joke, but nobody here mentions the only way to really improve things in the long term, otherwise this will just go on FOREVER. End immigration from Muslim countries to the US and Canada etc. Encourage Muslims who are not apostates to leave the country through carrot and stick approaches.
Oh no that can never happen, and I will tell you why – not only because of the PC Leftwing twits, but because this simple solution, THE ONLY SOLUTION is simply not even considered by most conservatives. At bottom most conservatives are just as PC and multi-culti as the Left and they don’t want to offend the Left by being considered racist or fascist (by defending ourselves from a religious fascist movement) by actually doing the only meaningful thing that would be effective in the long-term against the Jihad. The only way we can defend ourselves – stop feeding the beast – end immigration from Muslim countries and encourage repatriation of those already in the West.
45@Larry70
Reality, Larry, is that the sun is setting on the era of the bigoted christer. Learn some Chinese or Spanish and your Muslim boss, who is in business because he forbids usury, may consider your application for employment.
Spain kicked out the Moors in the 13th century, and has been a meandering failed empire ever since. Spain’s recent history is merely one of indulging the fascist bent of their Vatican overlords.
#32 seansarto
I found myself quickly going under in gay Paree
how did you manage to get along in gay Paris, if it wan’t because you had not money enough to live in one of the most expensive cities of the world ?
I’m curious of the details
I don’t see how thorough profiling would have been a bit successful in the crotch bomber’s case. Frankly, to my trained eye, he looks ever so much like a Chicago inner-city gang member. Jihadist wouldn’t have comet mind.