Comments on: Pro-Israel Views Get NGO in Iraq Defunded by Catholic Charity http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:18:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Filipa Mendes http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-92098 Filipa Mendes Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:28:15 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-92098 Caritas Catholica is without the shadow of a doubt a Catholic and European charity. Their Swiss website bears no mention of “Catholica” and no logo with the cross. There is a lot of hypocrisy - they, like most Catholic charities and NGOs - hide the fact/or are very discreet about it - that they are Catholic. http://web.caritas.ch/page2.php?lang=fr They are definitely anti-Israel. Caritas Catholica is without the shadow of a doubt a Catholic and European charity.

Their Swiss website bears no mention of “Catholica” and no logo with the cross. There is a lot of hypocrisy – they, like most Catholic charities and NGOs – hide the fact/or are very discreet about it – that they are Catholic.

http://web.caritas.ch/page2.php?lang=fr

They are definitely anti-Israel.

]]> By: Maria Lamberti http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91637 Maria Lamberti Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:59:29 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91637 Here is more information about the great campaign they are doing against Female Genital Mutiliation in Iraq: www.stopfgmkurdistan.org Here is more information about the great campaign they are doing against Female Genital Mutiliation in Iraq: http://www.stopfgmkurdistan.org

]]> By: John Moore http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91369 John Moore Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:30:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91369 Mr Kenner, The idea that the Catholic Church has a viscous[sic] bias against Israel is just plain wrong. That some Catholic groups would be anti-Israel is not surprising, just as some were pro-Sandinista (liberation theologists. However, you slander the Church by imputing to it the behavior of a Catholic Charity. As for "social justice organizations" - that term is code for leftist, liberationist organizations, which tend to be anti-Israeli, regardless of what organization or religion they are associated with. Nowhere does the article tie the Catholic church to the reported anti-Israel behavior of Caritas. Including "Catholic" in the title is thus inappropriate and offensive. The organization is as European as it is Catholic. Why wasn't it described as a European Charity? Shall we mention Jewish social justice organizations that have long supported communists, including communist dictators? I think it would be highly inappropriate to mention their Jewish association when discussing their politics. Mr Kenner,

The idea that the Catholic Church has a viscous[sic] bias against Israel is just plain wrong. That some Catholic groups would be anti-Israel is not surprising, just as some were pro-Sandinista (liberation theologists.

However, you slander the Church by imputing to it the behavior of a Catholic Charity. As for “social justice organizations” – that term is code for leftist, liberationist organizations, which tend to be anti-Israeli, regardless of what organization or religion they are associated with.

Nowhere does the article tie the Catholic church to the reported anti-Israel behavior of Caritas. Including “Catholic” in the title is thus inappropriate and offensive. The organization is as European as it is Catholic. Why wasn’t it described as a European Charity?

Shall we mention Jewish social justice organizations that have long supported communists, including communist dictators? I think it would be highly inappropriate to mention their Jewish association when discussing their politics.

]]> By: Javelin http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91335 Javelin Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:37:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91335 Mr. Kenner, Good point, then why do so many pro Israeli cons pretend that the Church is Israel's and the Jew's best friend? Jeez, from some of the trash I've read on NRO and other Papist blogs you'd think that the Pope and his family were conducting acts of sabotague and subversion (and the Vatican was an armed resistance camp) against the Nazis when in reality they obeyed the Party's orders like 99% of the Germans. And like 99% of the Germans, said they hated the Nazis but couldn't do a thing about it, which of course, they knew nothing of. Mr. Kenner,
Good point, then why do so many pro Israeli cons pretend that the Church is Israel’s and the Jew’s best friend? Jeez, from some of the trash I’ve read on NRO and other Papist blogs you’d think that the Pope and his family were conducting acts of sabotague and subversion (and the Vatican was an armed resistance camp) against the Nazis when in reality they obeyed the Party’s orders like 99% of the Germans. And like 99% of the Germans, said they hated the Nazis but couldn’t do a thing about it, which of course, they knew nothing of.

]]> By: Don Kenner http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91309 Don Kenner Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:16:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91309 Let's not miss the point here. Caritas, like all Catholic social justice organizations, is vehemently anti-Israel. Their office in Jerusalem regularly issues denunciations of Israeli defensive actions (even non-violent ones like checkpoints), and they are SILENT when it comes to Islamic terror and violence, even when that violence is directed at Arab Christians. This all meshes quite well with Jerusalem's Latin Patriarch Sabbah, a Palestinian, who was best friends with Arafat and recently denied the legitimacy of the Jewish state. Ditto with European and American Bishops. But why should the Catholic Church stop is viscous bias against Israel? Has any Catholic (other than myself) ever stopped giving money to the Church in protest? Do American Catholics, even "conservative" ones ever call the Church or these organizations on the carpet? Is there any downside for the Church sticking it to Israel? If so, I've never seen it. Any Catholic leader who goes to Israel will immediately be treated like the long-awaited Messiah by the Israeli government. When Catholics stop funding Caritas you'll see some back-pedaling on the perfidious Israelis. Not for the right reasons, of course. Let’s not miss the point here. Caritas, like all Catholic social justice organizations, is vehemently anti-Israel. Their office in Jerusalem regularly issues denunciations of Israeli defensive actions (even non-violent ones like checkpoints), and they are SILENT when it comes to Islamic terror and violence, even when that violence is directed at Arab Christians.

This all meshes quite well with Jerusalem’s Latin Patriarch Sabbah, a Palestinian, who was best friends with Arafat and recently denied the legitimacy of the Jewish state. Ditto with European and American Bishops.

But why should the Catholic Church stop is viscous bias against Israel? Has any Catholic (other than myself) ever stopped giving money to the Church in protest? Do American Catholics, even “conservative” ones ever call the Church or these organizations on the carpet?

Is there any downside for the Church sticking it to Israel? If so, I’ve never seen it. Any Catholic leader who goes to Israel will immediately be treated like the long-awaited Messiah by the Israeli government. When Catholics stop funding Caritas you’ll see some back-pedaling on the perfidious Israelis. Not for the right reasons, of course.

]]> By: cubanbob http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91273 cubanbob Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:00:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91273 The best thing to do with these NGO's is to simply kick them out. Israel and Colombia have a responsibilty to their own people, not to placate the friends of their enemies. As sovereign nations they have the right and the obligation to choose whom to let in to their countries and on what terms. So there will be bad press and outcry. So what. That is all there will be. Just ask the Russians. The best thing to do with these NGO’s is to simply kick them out. Israel and Colombia have a responsibilty to their own people, not to placate the friends of their enemies.

As sovereign nations they have the right and the obligation to choose whom to let in to their countries and on what terms. So there will be bad press and outcry. So what. That is all there will be. Just ask the Russians.

]]> By: Steynian 224 « Free Mark Steyn! http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91268 Steynian 224 « Free Mark Steyn! Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:48:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91268 [...] PRO-ISRAEL VIEWS Gets NGO in Iraq Defunded by Catholic Charity …. [...] [...] PRO-ISRAEL VIEWS Gets NGO in Iraq Defunded by Catholic Charity …. [...]

]]> By: Tom Paine http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91187 Tom Paine Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:39:41 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91187 This is another example of NGO subversion... I want NGO governance to be as strictly transparent? exposed? regulated? ...? as any other multi-national business. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. This is another example of NGO subversion…

I want NGO governance to be as strictly transparent? exposed? regulated? …? as any other multi-national business.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

]]> By: Uhlenspiegel http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91168 Uhlenspiegel Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:25:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91168 Why not organize a fundraiser for WADI? Why not organize a fundraiser for WADI?

]]> By: ZEITGEIST http://pjmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91103 ZEITGEIST Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:03:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/pro-israel-views-get-aid-organization-in-iraq-defunded/#comment-91103 [...] TOO PRO-ISRAEL for Catholic charity? [...] [...] TOO PRO-ISRAEL for Catholic charity? [...]

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