Predicting the 2012 GOP Presidential Ticket
With 2012 less than 500 days away and just a few months left before the November midterm elections, there is no better time to predict the 2012 Republican presidential ticket, because no one else in their right mind would dare.
Yes, I am aware that predictions of this nature are usually worthless, but they are fun nevertheless, and who doesn’t need some fun in these last depressing days of President Obama’s Orwellian-sounding “Recovery Summer”?
(Which leads one to ask: Does “Recovery Fall” start in September? Or did Recovery Fall eclipse Recovery Summer way back in June?)
These are questions for another time. But as for the 2012 GOP ticket, my prediction as of now is: Governor Haley Barbour and Governor Mitch Daniels.
This would be a historic governor-governor ticket.
In fact, back in March of this year, I co-wrote a Daily Beast column with Mark McKinnon about the strong possibility that the 2012 GOP presidential and vice presidential nominees would come from the statehouse. Now it’s time to stick my neck out and predict these two governors will be the eventual headliners.
In the Daily Beast column, we listed two-term Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour among the vice-presidential contenders, but respectably called him “king of the Republican governors” because of his chairmanship of the Republican Governors Association (RGA).
We wrote, “Barbour is someone to watch because he will be so influential in the 2010 governor’s races and will be a mainstay on the national news shows.”
Still true today, but here is the big difference between March of this year and now: Haley Barbour as RGA chairman has emerged as the de facto leader of the entire Republican Party (a post Barbour actually held from 1993 to 1997). This has been accelerated by the disastrous tenure of Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele.
Now Politico calls Governor Barbour the “most powerful Republican in American politics, at least for the next three months.” This refers to the $40 million he has raised as RGA chairman and his political operative skills, which will most likely lead to an increase in the number of victorious Republican governors among the 37 states holding gubernatorial elections in November.
Of course, if he is successful, Barbour will not only keep that “most powerful Republican” title along with an impressive stack of IOUs. On November 3, you will also begin reading about how Haley Barbour was the “real winner” of the midterms and hearing hours of “will he or won’t he run” cable chatter.
The answer is “yes.” Haley Barbour will run and he will be the 2012 GOP presidential nominee.
Back in January of this year, Newsweek called him the “Anti-Obama” and “Mr. Fix It.” Both titles are even more accurate now and position him well for 2012.
Haley Barbour is a governor who has weathered Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and now the Gulf oil spill, state-level crises of the magnitude normally reserved for presidents. His stature has risen through both tragedies.
According to a July Rasmussen poll, Governor Barbour had a 70% approval rating in Mississippi.
Well, now, if THIS isn’t a great big surprise. A McCain supporter acting like the governor of Alaska doesn’t even exist. Goodness, it’s been nearly two years since McCain sulked like a toddler because his ‘unknown’ VP pick suddenly became a million times the star he was – and yet the grapes are still sour amongst all his supporters. Goodness, don’t you McCain people ever get tired of being childish?
Isn’t the first petulant comment usually reserved for a troll planted by the Progressives? As much as I would rather have Palin over the current guy (if that were the choice), is she really electable? It is going to take no-nonsense, waste and fraud fighting, fix-the-economy, run-the-trains-on-time candidates to win in 2012. If we make it about family values, religion in government, right to life, etc., get ready for four more years of BO.
In other words, for you, “its all about money”. And, one second after you die, how important will money be to you? And how important will where and how you spend eternity? Got it?
No its not all about the money for me but thanks for jumping to that conclusion. But it should be all about the money for government, as in “here is our tax money – give us good basic government as envisioned by our founders as efficiently as possible and stay out of everything else”. We should not look to the government for our welfare or our salvation.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. And Caesar’s job is good, economical governance.
You’re right that money won’t matter when I die (it really doesn’t matter much to me now, honestly), but living in a country with a government that’s on track to solvency, rather than drowning in debt, will still matter to my children.
There’s always Jan Brewer. She’s just a down home girl. A community college x ray tech drop out. She’s not all full of that fancy-schmancy liberal elite stuff like knowledge and the ability to read a prepared statement. It proves she’s “one of them.”
Now, if she writes her notes on her hand, it’ll be a blow out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPKKbmWMZ8
Is she high or does she have Alzheimer’s. Looks like she’s been rode hard and put away wet. Could be that AZ sun frying her brain.
Yes. Yes she is electable.
By the way, isn’t it a bit ironic that an anti-Palin-ite would accuse a pro-Palin poster of being a ‘progressive troll?’
(shakes head)
No it’s not all about the money for me but thanks for jumping to that conclusion. But it should be all about the money for government, as in: “here is our tax money. give us good basic government as envisioned by our founders as efficiently as possible and stay out of everything else”. We should not look to the government for our welfare or our salvation.
Perhaps I was too subtle but I just meant that such petulance is usually not found except in posts by progressive trolls. I like Sarah Palin and would vote for her – but I am unconvinced that she can be elected. BO is only vulnerable because he has botched his “Executive” duties – preferring to turn the Presidency into the “Advocacy Branch” of government. The way to beat him is to present candidates as capable no-nonsense executives. Sarah just doesn’t come across that way and will be at an even worse “experience” disadvantage than in 2008.
Sorry – I concatenated two posts together here and meant to submit just the second half of the one just above.
Geeze explains it all to us. To hell with family values – just make the trains run on time. It sure worked for Mussolini.
Except for that icky part where he and his mistress were shot full of holes and then strung up by their heels.
You want the government to dictate and enforce what you feel are the correct “values” on other people? A whole lot of Americans fear this type of freedom squelching more than they fear the Progressive’s total trashing of the economic foundation that has enabled us all to pursue the life values that we individually prefer. And what’s with the Mussolini reference? Isn’t that from the Progressive playbook.
Believe me I want the Progressives out as much as you do but I would like it replaced by a government that intervenes less – not just differently.
You guys have a warped view of liberty and freedom. Here’s how it goes. Say you’re a senior citizen on Social Security and Medicare. The way a conservative would increase their liberty and freedom is to gut their pension and take away their health care. This way here they would have the liberty and freedom to eat any brand of cat food they like. Ahh, yes, the good old days . . .
‘eat any brand of cat food they like. Ahh, yes, the good old days . . .’
Another myth accepted uncritically by another bonehead.
I was around then, unlike yourself. A story told about a woman claiming that she ate cat food from a can because it was cheaper than tuna. The story was blown up, by a media just then starting to blear the difference between journalism and opinion, into an indictment of an imagined government failure. Accepted wholeheartedly by that decade’s crop of blithering idiots, and now propagated anew by this decade’s crop.
You have no ability to distinguish freedom from dependency or support from ownership. I don’t think you’re well-enough educated to apply the critical thinking required to recognize the differences.
A sophomoric youth with an unjustified high opinion of his perspicacity tries to lecture us on the contradictions of entitlements. The same child whines continuously that the cost of his education is too high, and just what are other people going to do about that? Not that I blame you on one level, as the evidence you yourself give constantly says you’re paying for very little value.
At any rate, we’ve paid for our educations, fanboy. Gotten something from them also, unlike yourself it seems. And are now applying what we’ve learned both in school and in life. Why should anyone other than the other dependent progressive sheep you hang with at the student union, any adult economic contributors so to speak, place any value whatsoever on your prognostications, pronouncements, or opinions?
I would get ready for four more years of BO regardless of who the GOP runs. But if the teabaggers have their way, as seems to be the case, a far right candidate unpalatable to a centrist nation will be unelectable But the GOP has lots of puppets to choose from. What about Arizona governor Jan Brewer? Well, actually I’ll let you watch first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPKKbmWMZ8
This is what conservatism has to offer. Vapid stepford candidates who couldn’t think their way out of a cardboard box. But they are reflective of those who support them, really. As appalling as this woman is, this, ironically, should expand her lead. Teabaggers love it when their candidates demonstrate they’re not full of that fancy-schmancy liberal elite stuff like knowledge and the ability to read a prepared statement. It proves she’s “one of them.” Now, if she writes her notes on her hand, it’ll be a blow out! Obama will obliterate anyone the conservatives put up. Just watch.
“Vapid stepford candidates who couldn’t think their way out of a cardboard box.”
This is a fantasy of yours I guess – and you are welcome to it. Too bad for you that forty or fifty of these will be replacing Democrats in November.
And in any case, they couldn’t be worse than the smug liberal elitists who think they are way smarter than they really are and who see nothing wrong in forcing others by any means necessary to follow their world view – even with a huge body of evidence that says they are wrong.
It gonna be a rough eight years for you Geezer. Just watch. Brains have never been a prerequisite for conservatism. That they pray to a magic sky daddy proves it. Keep thumping your chest. We like it when you’re over confident.
And tell me that it wasn’t painful to watch Miss Jan. I actually felt bad for her. But she’ll get reelected. Conservatives expect so little, on an intellectual level that it. And it doesn’t have anything to do with “forcing a worldview.” That’s a big word for you. I doubt you’d recognize one if it bit you in the ass.
Here’s a bumper sticker for you:
“Hey America, come vote for the biggest lobbyist in our nations history! The only guy with conflicts of interest at every turn! You want backroom deals and pork laden meals? Vote HALEY!
You beltway pundits are a laugh-riot. You actually still believe you can dismiss the bash and pick our candidate for us. I think you’d better go back to writing for the Daily Beastress and leave the pickin’ and choosin’ to us.
Maybe the GOP should run Jan Brewer. This should make her even more popular with the teabaggers. They love it when their candidates demonstrate they’re not full of that fancy-schmancy liberal elite stuff like knowledge and the ability to read a prepared statement. It proves she’s “one of them.” Now, if she writes her notes on her hand, it’ll be a blow out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPKKbmWMZ8
Is she (Palin) electable? Well, you don’t want her, but you just said, “…As much as I would rather have Palin over the current guy (if that were the choice),…”. So…you would elect her, right? Well, others may feel the same as you — she’s not their first choice, but they would vote for her if she were the nominee. Polls have shown generically that a Republican — any Republican — will be chosen over Obama or any other Democrat in 2012. Besides this, why wouldn’t the GOP want to take this rare opportunity to “make history” by being the party that elected the first woman president? This is what the Dems do. In fact, they will elect anyone – legally eligible or not – just to have the first black, the first woman, the first whatever. Why don’t Republicans want to be the “first”? What an achievement that would be. And Palin is Constitutionally eligible, she’s experienced (remember, she’s a governor, too), she’s been a CinC, she’s dealt with Russia in so much as Alaska being a neighbor that must “get along” – co-exist – with them, she’s led the energy initiative in Alaska. She’s well qualified, and…the GOP would have bragging rights to the first woman president. My guess as to why they don’t? Unlike Dems, Repubs are deeply entrenched in good old white boys, and fiercely guard the clubhouse door for fear of becoming irrelevant.
I like Palin. I do not support her for 2012 as the presidential nominee. Certainly any Barbour candidacy is either going to have to negotiate with Palin or beat her. So what does Palin want that would beat a run for the presidency? She wants power, influence, and a GOP that is no longer run by the stuffed shirts that have been her bane her entire political career.
I have a perfectly delicious alternative, Palin for chair of the RNC. It has the advantage of putting Palin in a position where she’s got real power and the ability to move her people up and have her ideas heard and listened to while not exposing her to the dice throw that 2012 national elections will be. And all she would need to do is… not run for President. The RNC would never be the same, thank God.
Your idea is spot on. I especially like the part about the RNC
The problem is too many mossback Repubs [the huge money folk] will spend everything they have to block her, even if it means another 4 years of “the one”. I call them “RIMO’s”, Republicans in money, only. They are the ones calling for “compromise” and “bipartisanship” [spit, spit]. The possession of huge family fortunes creates an overwhelming desire for maintaining the status quo, whatever it is, and eliminating uncontrollable “risk”. Freedom demands otherwise, so the twain remain in conflict.
I see the establishment types are out here today pushing the ridiculous opinion of putting Sarah as the head of the RNC.
They would marginalize her just like they have done to Michael Steele.
Sarah is WAY to wiley and smart for something as foolish as taking the demotion to RNC head.
People, that leftist talking point was shot down a few months ago.
This. So much this.
Despite what the article says about Barbour, I consider Sarah to be the de facto Chair of the GOP. She’s raising money and endorsing candidates all over the country to fit her vision of the Party, and doing a fairly good job of it. If that’s not being a Party Chairman, what is?
I think she’ll do a fantastic job in that position. Let’s make it happen, eh?
Being Sarah Palin carries more clout than being RNC chair (and pays alot better). This would be the dumbest move she could ever make. The RINOs would use this to destroy her.
I do like Sarah Palin. I wish she could have stayed on in Alaska longer to get more executive experience (but don’t blame her for leaving). She needs a real job soon, though, because right now she looks like the Konservative Kardashian (celebrity-didn’t she used to do something? Did you see her latest TV appearance?)
Barbour has been a great governor and an effective leader. Unfortunately, he does not look presidential. Can you imagine the first presidential debate when Obama and Barbour go out and shake hands? You have an in shape commander in chief versus an overweight one more steak going to kill me governor. Game, set, match to Obama. Barbour would be a great cabinet official (Homeland Sec or Attorney General) just not the #1 or #2 spot.
Governor Daniels brings all the necessary criteria to the plate. He is smart, articulate and can debate Obama on key issues that will resonate with the electorate such as tax reform, health care and foreign policy. Moreover, the Republicans need to do well in the Rust Belt and upper Midwest states if we are to beat the Obama team in 2012.
Daniels would need someone with beltway experience to be his COO and carry out the agenda. The team would have limited time before midterm elections and when they have to start running election again in 2016. Two clear names for Vice President.
One is South Dakota Senator John Thune. He has solid conservative credentials, and he could whack the Dems on spending, foreign policy and would unify the conservative base instantly. In addition, he is vetted and smart. He has stood his own against the likes of Tom Daschle, and he would definitely give Joe “Smiley” Biden a run for his money in the debate. The only negative is that he does nothing electorally. South Dakota is a solid red state with few electoral votes.
The other alternative will be incoming Florida Senator Marco Rubio. Rubio again unites the conservative base, but he will bring instant appeal among Latino voters who traditionally side with Republican voters on social issues. In addition, he can put the key state of Florida in the Republican electoral chest. The only negative is that he would only be a year in the Senate before being picked, and he might have his own agenda that would differ from President Daniels.
Daniels-Thune or Daniels-Rubio? It will be a great ticket, and it will have the Dems shaking in their boots.
This all sounds very reasonable. So reasonable that a Barbour-Daniels ticket might be able to attract the independent voters that the Republicans will so sorely need to win in 2012.
And therein lies the problem. The rightwing of the Republican Party is out for blood. If Barbour doesn’t pass all their purity tests, they will reject him, no matter how promising he is as a national candidate. They are still in a foul mood for having a RINO forced down their collective throat in 2008, and have already written off Daniels for daring to suggest that focusing on social issues now would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Of course Daniels is correct. We simply have to get our fiscal house in order.
My guess is that after almost four years of governance on the extreme left, the country will be in no mood for extremism on the right. I sincerely hope the Republicans are realistic and practical enough to run an electable candidate. I fear the US will not survive four more years of Barack Obama.
As in electable democratic candidate? Obama? Like obama? How do you know what the country is in the mood for???
After wrecking economy, putting us and our children in debt dems are telling us what the mood is. Unbelievable!
Uh – WHO was it who left the wrecked economy and giant debt that Obama inherited?
Ah, how soon we forget….
Aha, there is the Haley Barbour problem at the head of the ticket.
Barbour’s tenure as Chairman of GOP was redolent with anti-conservative RINO actions.
People scorned have a long memory. Those people will back Palin and leave the party fractured, just like 2007/2008. There were several good candidates to run against Clinton/Obama. However, a certain former Arkansas governor turned TV personality split off the religious right from a more electable candidate. The rest is history.
Haley B has been a fine Mississippi governor and he may have changed from being RINO to being a conservative, but as wheeler-dealer in chief in Washington years ago, he won’t get my vote in a GOP primary.
I found this Post enjoyable and the contents thought provoking; both exactly what we need at this time.
Thus I have only one question:
What do you have in mind or where do you see Miss Sarah 2012? Surely, she has to figure somewhere?
What we really need is the dimwit housewife from Alaska, the one with the dysfunctional family, the one who quit her previous executive position, the “PMS goddess of the north”, as the most powerful person in the world.
The GOP is fixing to run lots of gals in 2010 and 2012. Like Snow and Collins.
We need those, too. Probably in a daycare setting.
Lots of stupidity and hatred packed in there.
Yup–that’s the way to have people take your seriously.
I feel sorry for you.
Warning! Troll attack in progress. [Time-out for the commenter to check in with Kos for more talking points].
ANY mention of Palin brings them out of the woodwork. No conservative scares them as much — which is why she should be the GOP nominee. After all, why would we want someone they like? Remember how the NYTimes endorsed Primary Candidate McLame? Then, immediately started trashing Nominee McLame. Let’s don’t fall for that again.
Barbour and Daniels. Good guys. Thousands of people stand in line in the cold for hours just to say hello to these guys in person. Maybe not. Palin already has it and will have it if she wants it.
It is Sarah’s if she runs.
I will be sending in my resignation and leaving a six-figure job and heading for Iowa if she does. I’m prepared to hit soup kitchens to survive if I have to to support her run through Ames, Iowa caucus, NH, SC and NV and beyond.
She will stop leviathan in its tracks, especially with a GOP Senate and House in Jan. 2013.
What other candidate will make people sacrifice to grapple with the Statists and defeat Obama in 2012?
Unless Reagan rises from the dead, nobody else.
I’m not American, Sapwolf, but should Mrs Palin run, and I can do anything from Australia to help, you can call me for support. (Just provide a website link on your name, some time.)
Palin will be the Party Chair; she wouldn’t be able to withstand the scrutiny of a year-long Primary. Huckabee, on the other hand, has a clear path to the White House.
Palin has already withstood years of scrutiny – from the minute she stepped out on the stage to give her ’08 VP candidate speech. And, she’s still withstanding scrutiny. I’m amazed at how strong and focused she continues to be in the face of it all. The thing is, she keeps bouncing back, and making her detractors look stupid in the process. Besides, she’s already been vetted up one side and down the other, so there’s not much left for liberals to pick through. They know it, and this angers them. Their dissing is getting more and more petty and irrelevant. Oh, they’ll continue to criticize her. In fact, if she indeed becomes Madam President, they’ll be so incensed, they just might have to leave the country to find relief.
By all means, the GOP should run a candidate espoused by The Economist, that organ of internationalist social democracy and Keynesian-ism. Maybe the GOP should also have the “global warming” crisis as a campaign plank, which is another dubious cause The Economist supports.
Exactly.
If the Economist has good things to say about a GOP candidate…no thanks.
Don’t get me wrong—I could–and woul–vote for Barbour/Daniels in a nano-second over Obama/Biden…just not in the primaries.
How I wish this would/could be true. Being from Louisiana, I am very familiar with Gov Haley Barbour. Gov Mitch Daniels, will have to do some DD on this one.
What bothers me is, the leadership of the Republican Party sticking with the ole’ die hard group and ending up with another RINO Repub for their pick. We need rock solid, DIE HARD leadership. Something like Hale Barbour can bring. But, the old hold outs in the Repub party will see the “good ole’ boys” as what to stick with. This troubles me greatly. After all, with someone like Michael Steele at the helm of the RNC, how can we expect the leadership of the Repub Party to actually step out and do what’s RIGHT!! And what is best for the country…
Yes, bad republicans!!! demorats are much better. Look at this Congress, Senate, President and all his czars. Pathetic.
Palin/Christie. Can’t imagine anyone else who could shake things up like these two.
I’m partial to Jindal/Christie, myself. The spectacle of watching Democrat operatives trying to constantly cover for Joe Biden’s inevitable bigoted jokes about Indians will be a sight to see and Jindal’s very smart, very good on the nuts and bolts of policy. If he can reform Louisiana…
I’m with Sapwolf, to the letter and my wife and I are looking forward, if that’s what it takes, to hitting “soup kitchens to survive if I have to to support (President-Elect Palin’s) run through Ames, Iowa caucus, NH, SC and NV and beyond.”
And with T Kelly who says President-Elect Palin and Mr Christie would surely shake things up. (And may well be our only presidents from 2013 through 2029!)
And then there’s John Bolton, who would be about as perfect a President-Elect Palin running mate as would, by the mention of his name, put the world’s Putins and other pukes and crap-heads on notice that we Americans are aware our Military Forces are as powerful as are the combined military forces of the second through twentieth place holders in the Most Powerful Nation Stakes!
Point is that no matter who runs with her, two thousand and twelve is President-Elect Palins, to lose!
Myra. it is, it is too early.
I agree with MMD above. If the old die hard Republican regulars picked a clueless wonder like Michael Steele to run the organization, just how sharp are they? And I am from Maryland.
I can see the Myra Adams is in a deep sleep. Are you really sure Sarah will not be on the ticket. Hybernation starts in early December after the final counts of November tsunami. So please awake up and write something interesting.
We did what we could to drag the dead weight of John McCain across the finish line with absolutely no help from him at all and primarily because we wanted Sarah. We learned our lesson. Now you think we’re going to drag Haley Barbour and this Daniels person? (All I ever think of is Melanie Daniels from “The Birds” and Mitch Brenner the love interest.) Let me tell you, in all sincerity, no one is gonna be interested/excited/motivated/passionate about this dull as dishwater duo.
Sheesh. Buy a clue already.
governor hayley barbour,and mitch daniels?obviously this prediction was written by an anti-christ,progressive liberal; barber,and daniels both stated the gop needs to be a bigger party,and not a purer party;thats code word for we need more gov.christ,arlin spectors,and lindsey grahams,and less,george washingtons,james madison’s,and ronald reagan’s.we need politicians who are as effective as progressive liberals,in buying the loyalty,and souls of the american people,in exchange,for votes and power for the politicians version,of their bizarro world view.instead of we the people according to natures law,and natures god.rights,equality,life,and liberty,endowed by the creator of judeo-christian principals.which means”free will”applied with personal responsibilty,one without the other cannot co-exist,and remain,a civil,just,and equal society.those such as this writer,hayley barbour,and mitch daniels may have some good quality’s.but all said some very transparent,and troubling things by wanting to avoid social issues.they are saying character doesn’t matter;only strategic maneuvering,and manipulation tactics,for votes,and power,for themselves;they don’t want to deal with social issues,because their own power is more important than the character,of a people,and,a nation. which is why america’s in the mess it’s in now.the main problem with politics today,by political insiders,stategist,media,politicians,and most special interest groups;is that frankness,and truth,is forbidden;the same who would avoid subjects;such as infanticide,sexually stimulating minor children,in our classrooms,and culture.indoctrination;in favor of foreign law,and oppressive cultures,such as progrssive liberal marxist communism;which millions of our greatest sacrificial lambs over the last 100 years gave life,and limb to defeat so it would never reach american soil.and even while our greatest sacrificial lambs are continuing,sacrificing,life,and limb to defeat these sic-ophant death cultures;while our leaders on both sides of the aisle are seeking instead to suck-up to these sic-ophant,death,and destruction cultures.whose main goals are to make america sub servient to all these communist,and sponsors of death and human life,and liberty,death to judeo-christian principals;through their ponzi schemes,such as global warming;,and morality death camps from abortion to government sponsored indoctrination pedophile camps;yes any who want to avoid,these social issues;are selective constitutionalist;like progressive liberals all they care about,is money,and power;these will always cross the aisle to the left,in congress,and sell out america,its people,and help liberals chip away at america’s constitution,and bill of rights;just look at what our children are being taught today;this didn’t just happen;we are under the rule,and the perverted beliefs of liberalism;the mess we are in are as much to blame of trojan horse republicans,who want to avoid social issues;in exchange for trying to outbribe the loyalty,and vote of those who practice lawlessness,and demand foreign law and cultures to supercede america’s.i call it “lucifers law” those who demand that their will is; to be exalted,above the god of judeo-christian principals,rule of law,and we the people;those who don’t want to deal with social issues;are the same who tried to manipulate the law ,and assimilation process.to put “illegal/lawless immigration,and its violators,over the rights,seniority,soverignty,and defense of the american citizen,and waiting-in line immigrants;who abide by the law;and who want to be loyal americans unlike those who protest to be exalted above god,and rule of law based on the color of their skin,and their national orgin oppisite civil rights laws;if you are an american who wants the ideaology,of mao se tung hugo chavez,fidel castro,saddam hussein,yassar arafat,hamas,and hezbollah;where government ,and religious sic-ophant ideaoligies,adulterously,cheat on those they swore to be loyal to;to satisfy their own lust,for power;exploiting their own; then the progrssive liberal movement is for you;but they cannot accomplish their lust for power by themselves;they need cooperation,from those who do not believe all liberals believe in;but are more than willing to sell out their own if it makes them a maverick,in the eyes of liberal media,and assures them personal wealth,and power,and idol’s built for them in their district;then those who want a bigger,more perverted,more,godless,lawless,and corrupt party,and not a purer party;who want more benedict arlin spectors,and gov.charlie obama zombie,nancy palooka,,i’m just wild about harry reid crist;no; believe as you will;but anyone refusing to take-on social issues,are either politically correct compliant cowards;or without moral character themselves;”evil flourishes when good people do nothing”like moses, john the baptist,&jesus christ;stand by your principals even if you stand alone;it may seem at times we are deafeated;but in the end like these great historical biblical,sacrificial lambs.we will win, in the end;jimmy joe;”the liarfryer”
Jimmy Joe,
I skipped over your post because it’s unreadable.
jimmy joe, You need to use proper punctuation, thanks.
jimmyjoe=wastedeffortbecausehe’stoolazytorereadand/orpunctuatehis”thoughts”.
Is this the same guy who bombed the Discovery Channel building yesterday? Sure sounds like it…
Paragraphs are your friend
Just what we need, advice from someone who co-wrote an article with Mark (I won’t work in a campaign opposing Obama) McKinnon in the Daily Beast. Can you say RINOs?
Five words for Jimmeh: Shift key and space bar.
At least we didn’t see any fool names like Huckajoke or Gingrich. Ya wanna hand the election to the Dems, nominate one of those guys. Or Romney. The Romneycare anchor will be too much dead-weight to bear for an otherwise solid Chief Executive. Palin? I like her personally. Does she have what it takes to run the country? Debatable. Will she fatally polarize independents and turn the election into a referendum on her and not the conversation about what it’s going to take to turn this ship around? Yes. Please, no Palin this time.
Barbour/Daniels. I can dig it. It will be cool to watch the MSM’s collective head explode with the lack of “diversity” on that ticket, further exposing them for the hypocrits they are.
Bring it on.
Allen West for President… Obama’s Bane…
Nah. Barbour/Daniels is as dull as a rusty knife. We need something that excites the voters. How about Palin/Christie ?
Palin please. With a side order of Beck.
BTW, why would Glenn, breathless and on the verge of tears at 8/28, tell a story about holding Washington’s inaugural address in his own hands? I’ll tell you why. He’s a pathological liar. It never happened, according to the National Archives rep who was with Beck that day. Never. Happened. Wake up, people. He’s a huckster.
Unless, of course, someone here can give me a reasonable explanation for Beck’s lie. Anyone?
Still spreading lies and invective eh Betty-know-nothing? Since you’ve called Beck out as a liar why don’t you supply the link? Or did you just read this drivel on ‘bluffington post’ and decided it must be true? Everything on bluffington post is true – right? Maybe it was on the daily kos?
Here’s the Beck piece:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/02/olbermann-beck-caught-lyi_n_703197.html
And here’s another wonderfully delicious look at the other celebutard on the bill that day:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/02/vanity-fairs-sarah-palin-_n_703412.html
You’ve already dismissed the proof, probably because you already searched and found the truth. But truth it s, unless you can refute it. Can you?
Face it, these people offer nothing but snake oil. You refuse to accept it because you’ve believed their nonsense for years now. Such is the nature of pride. My prediction, Beck’s headed for a fall. Next thing you know he’ll be weeping into the camera just like Jimmy Swaggart did. And I can’t wait.
Betty-Knows-Nothing: Even the lefties in the media are running away from that Vanity Fair hit piece.
Seriously….Vanity Fair?
No wonder your posts are so empty–you use VF for information on politics?
Yikes.
Let me guess, you believe what was written for Palin in Going Rogue. As for Beck, it’s a video. Something in there you want to suggest is inaccurate? Something Beck didn’t say? You calling the National Archives person a liar. Which is it?
Sorry Betty-Knows-Nothing–I never said anything about Beck. Who gives a crap about that?
Nice strawman anyway. By the way, have you been paying attention to your precious media today? It seems that about every lefty is refudiating the VF piece, not just the one article I linked.
Not good for you.
Or your fellow lefties. Sorry about that.
I’m giggling so hard because Betty is using a link to the “Huffington Post” and the word “proof” in the same sentence. Quit it! You’re making me laugh too hard.
LOL The Huffo Post. I’m mean seriously, do some intelligent reading.
While the prospects don’t necessarily float my boat upon a first read, there’s some interesting thinking here. The most significant aspect of that is a ticket – at least in the context of a media campaign that will likely be unprecedented in its excesses – that doesn’t involve the GOP handing The Left Wing Media a loaded pistol.
The various memes used to demonize Palin still dominate the electorate’s consciousness whether we like it or not. SP is making enormous strides in undoing those and, certainly, her folder of IOUs right now is every bit as impressive as Barbour’s. But it’s not clear how that will translate to increasing her electability over the next 500 days. Assuming Palin’s the de facto nominee could be a mistake, IMHO.
We’re seeing a very significant – NATURAL – contraction of the economy, as the Baby Boomers move into middle-age and retirement and the economic demand from that largest of generations evaporates. This is ON TOP OF the very dire (and cynics might note: very cleverly-timed) economic reality we face, which is – at least in part – now ALSO a problem of reduced economic demand.
None of this is news to those formulating long-term political strategy, and it’s a safe bet the left is already identifying ways to leverage their obedient Fifth Column in the media, which will be all too happy to expend what little remains of its credibility blaming the GOP for the languishing economy beginning in January of 2011. It’ll be nothing more than a continuation of The Narrative.
So any revisions to the Congressional majority must absolutely be leveraged to their full potential, not only in terms of undoing the damage done to the fiber of the Republic over the last 3-1/2 years, but also in terms of undoing the damage done to our economy, insofar as that’s possible given the firebombing campaign we’ve endured at the hands of Clinton’s HUD, corrupt GSEs and the deficit-exploding Congressional Democrats.
Those tasks will be an enormous undertaking and, quite frankly, the present cast of the GOP – with the sole exception, perhaps, of Paul Ryan – has in no way shown itself to be up to the task. What this means is that SOMEone is going to have to act in a capacity similar to the one Palin has been filling the past several months. Someone will have to keep the pressure on the GOP to eschew the politics-as-usual, compromise-cum-complicity, Socialist Lite® game plan they’ve been pursuing for a decade.
IMHO, if the GOP doesn’t start out on Day One next year, steering this nation and this society away from the rocks BHO and the Congressional Democrats have locked our helm toward, then it’s not going to matter who’s on the ticket in 2012.
“..if the GOP doesn’t start out on Day One next year, steering this nation and this society away from the rocks BHO and the Congressional Democrats have locked our helm toward, then it’s not going to matter who’s on the ticket in 2012.”
Exactly. It’s time to bring in the serious adult executives. The kids now in charge may not like it but enough independents will realize that we have to make such a change. If we just get into a slap fight with them over religious or family values, right to life, etc., we won’t win.
Some of us will want a male candidate who is anti-abortion and anti-homosexual; has a strict constructionist view of the Constitution, will reinstate our sovereignty, strengthen our national defenses, close our borders, undo the obamamess, reduce government to the bare essentials and see Islam as an international criminal conspiracy- for starters.
The USA has become so morally threadbare that such a candidate cannot even be nominated, let alone elected. It no longer matters whether the Jackass Party or the Greedy Old Predators win- one is just as godless and globalist as the other. The obamanites will get us to Hell more quickly, but not more certainly than the huckabians or the romneysians.
Well said
Very nice. As you suggested the media may not have the power it once held, and that is a good thing. My preference for Palin comes from a couple of places. First, she is hated by the Left in a way comparable to Mr. Reagan. And I ask myself why, and the answer I keep coming up with is that they are/were able to get very close to the truth in regard to the individual’s rights and the proper role of government in guaranteeing these rights.
Second, with her baby Trig, she can show a bond between mother and child that many would not have thought possible and might have deemed ‘unviable’. In this regard, she needn’t even address the abortion issue, because she won’t have to, and it would be unwise for her to do so. If she gets one vote from every woman who’s ever had an abortion and lived to regret it, well, that’s one vote her opponent doesn’t get.
Women got the vote a little after Prohibition.(18th, 19th ammendments) But they were clamoring for it for some time and the proximity of these two events is suggestive and perhaps, informative. It says to me that women can take aim and hit a target, but what they aim at is of vastly greater importance. During any WagonTrain seige, a circle would form and Winchesters would be a-blazin’ and when empty, the little wife would hand them another while she repeated the reloading process.
Suppose hubby took one (arrow) in the frontal lobe? That meant Annie had to take over the job of shooting. And maybe her daughter took over reloading.
With practice she could become pretty good; for the Indian it became a chance to mock his opponent. In the end, the West was won and casinos dotted the land. Good shooting, ladies.
The male conservative has for too long accomodated the Left’s desire to reconfigure America, such that an arrowhead in the forehead is a fair analogy- given the crop of candidates who haven’t grasped the unpopularity of the pass known as Donner. Obama as wagonmaster has always been headed for the Donner Pass, as have other democrats before him, but he wants to get there before the heavy snows hit, that’s why he “hit the ground, running”. Every one shovel-ready? The women on this ‘train’ may hold the key to averting disaster if they get a chance to vote(shoot).
This November may be a sign that women are tired of having an unemployed husband sitting around the house all day, or trying to feed a family and pay bills with limited means. They may think about the Winchester. November 2012 will be the day they take hold of .30 caliber and shoot (vote) the bastards out. By then, Obama will be down to his last feather and Sarah will be the trumpet sound of the cavalry just over the hill.
Women are usually busy with other stuff, but once they pick up a rifle, pick a target and take aim, look out. Not saying Democrats are insensitive to women’s needs, but when their fall-back position in every debate seems to be, “We’ll help you kill your fetus, they won’t”, I have to wonder what kind of love is that? As a guy I have to ask, is this a party I want to be invited to? Is this all they’ve got? Are there no compromises? Where is the compassion?
- The male conservative has for too long accomodated the Left’s desire to reconfigure America…
That’s because we keep treating the morally adolescent individuals who’ve been suckered into leftist ideology as though they’re fully functioning adults with an argument worth considering. They’re not. Until we figure that out we will drift further to the left until America either becomes a de facto totalitarian State or descends into civil war. If we don’t wake up, I’m guessing it’ll be the former.
What percentage of female voters voted for obama in 2008?
Good bet. Or else, some combination of Palin-Kasich
What we don’t need is more of the conventional wisdom that brought us Bob Dole (another good guy) in the 1996 mid terms and John McCain. My preference would be Pawlenty or Perry, possibly Carly Fiorina if she pulls it off in CA. Romney looks good given the state of the economy, Giuliani discredited himself with this awful campaign strategy, although he’ll immediately move to the top of the list if we get hit with another terrorist attack Barbers a great guy and a great governor but he can’t win outside of the South, Daniels lacks charisma.
Unlike the Dems the Repubs go by turn, for instance it was Reagans turn, then Bush’s, then Dole, Then Bush II, then McCain, and now I would suspect Romney (as much as I like him I don’t think he can do it) and sometimes it works and sometime it doesn’t.
My suspicion is that Daniels doesn’t have the desire or the organization to go for it. Don’t think Pawlenty can do it. Palin is NOT a shoe in, nor is it hers to lose by anymeans (I like here but not at all sure she can capture the independents and the press would mall her every move, and the repub establishment will oppose her at every turn, sorry but that is a fact), Gingrich can’t do it (Smartest guy in the party but he can’t). Barbour is very appealing, not known nationally (this is good and not so bad, being unknown and uninvestigated got O elected), a great record, very well spoken and with Daniels could be an imposing ticket. But he will have to work around the TURN system, don’t know if that’s possible, but he does have pull.
The Republicans need to get creative and conservative if they want to win. I am not at all sure they are capable of doing this. Plus the populous will be wary of a one party congress and president. We’ve tried that recently twice and the results were great shows of spending and arrogance unparalleled in American history.
Don’t discount Barbour that would be a mistake, he and Daniels have records that should be the envy of any other governors in the U.S. and that is nothing to dismiss.
Hope they pull it off. See ya, gotta go to my weekly Tea Party meeting. Yes we are all wacko sword caring neanderthals just like they say, just keep thinking that.
For the record. I despised McCain. What a truly inept Rino. I was hoping he would lose his senate seat. And for the record I like Palin a lot, but she is too easy of a target for the left, as much as many wish not to believe that, it is true. As they say, to much video and other baggage they will use to tear her apart and keep her off message. Sorry, just my opinion folks.
Whether or not one agrees or disagrees with Myra’s columns, they are always thoughtful and through provoking. Her comments are helpful in putting ideas into public discourse.
Haley Barbour may be a great leader but he won’t get within 99% of the Presidency. First, he would have to run and second, no deep Southern candidate is going to be nominated for at least another decade. Any Southerner will be vilified so ferociously that they will have no chance. His accent alone means that 35%-40% of the country would absolutely vote against him, without knowing anything about him. That may not be what anybody wants to hear, but it’s the truth. Perry is another example.
For similar reasons, Palin and Newt won’t run. They both will realize that the math just doesn’t work. Palin could get the nomination easily, but the passion felt by conservatives for her won’t matter. You have to get more votes than the other guy in the general to win, and she can’t, at least not in 2012. She will decide to be a kingmaker instead of the king. God bless her. Newt is smart enough to know he won’t even get 20% of Republicans. He already knows it.
And Romney can’t win either. Sad to say, being a Mormon means he can’t win the general. Sorry. Too many evangelicals will vote against him, or sit out. Sad but true. Plus he would have to overcome the anchor of RomneyCare.
Unless a wild card emerges, the only candidate who wants it, who can win the primaries, and can win the election is Pawlenty. He is conservative enough, experienced enough, without any major scandels (so far); and he is articulate and well-positioned against the field and Obama. Being a bit boring will be a plus instead of a negative in 2012. The country has had it with pizzazz.
Rubio might be a better choice, but it isn’t likely he will run. Daniels has already shot himself in the foot with his stupid comment about a moritorium on everything but the economy. It showed horrible judgement, and it will never be foregotten. Christie says he isn’t running, and there are already tons of hints about his less than conservative social views, so he probably couldn’t get out of the primaries.
Huckabee is the serious contendor to Pawlenty. He was the big winner from Beck’s rally, and has the biggest base in evangelicals. But if he grabs the lead, there will be a war on the right and Obama will win. We should pray that Huckabee back off. He is the biggest danger to Republican unity and probably is the one guy who can destroy the best chance the country has to evict the Statists. There is little question that he will be the Slimes favorite Republican candidate.
It’s Pawlenty by default, pending a major mistake or secret in his background. Plus, he’s a good choice by any standard.
Your view is narrow and early. Good comments, though, but you are only expressing a snapshot view as of “today”. Much can and will change. Others may suddenly hove into view. Unless you’re shilling for Pawlenty, keep your options open.
I have no connection with Pawlenty, and of course it’s early, but the candidate list won’t change much going forward. It takes a lot of money and an immense personal commitment. It would be surprising for a complete wild card to emerge.
The existing contenders are alarmingly weak, given the state of the country. My personal choice would be Palin or Rubio, but the only one without a fatal flaw is Pawlenty and he wants to run.
A final point: in my view, the country is finished unless republicans win in 2010 and 2012. There won’t be another chance if we lose either one. So it isn’t too early for people to begin thinking about 2012 as the critical campaign in a long war. Patton may have been your favorite general in 1943, but Eisenhauer was clearly a better choice as Supreme Commander.
We can’t gamble on a Patton.
Palin became popular because our nation has lacked true-blue American leadership for more than 70 years. Palin’s all American views were hailed by those of us who get up each day to go to work to pay taxes for those who choose to remain indolent. To think that the non contributors, and their leaders, abhor Palin, is, in itself, proof that the wrong people have been purchasing their governmental seats. The next president will definitely have to exhibit Americanism to the hilt, as well as appointing Palin to run the energy department. Let’s just make sure we elect conservative thinkers during the upcoming election. This way, when the new AMERICAN president “arises out of anarchy” he will have an easier time returning our nation to it’s truest form. By the way, if one doesn’t pay taxes, why are they allowed to vote to determine how my earned income is distributed?
Good comments. Thanks. Great point about non-taxpayers voting. Sure argues for a different system, doesn’t it? The poor actually do pay some taxes, it’s just they are hidden from view. Mightn’t a pauper make different choices if they could see clearly? Or would that put progressives noses too far out of joint?
The right to life armies will give Palin the nomination. Palin will win Iowa, place in NH and by 2-3 points beat Barbor in South Carolina. Losing SC Barbour will be done.
I do like Barbour alot. If we want a grown up and proven leader he is the one. I hope he gets in the white house as chef of staff or somthing like that. Palin/Barber would be great but It’s going to be Palin/Ryan.
Ryan will be far better as the Cuda’s Budget Director. He lacks leadership experience.
Barbour would be a good Chief of Staff IF he can suppress his own ego for the good of the country and keep to Sarah’s vision of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free-market economics.
Only if she’s the only hardcore right-to-life candidate in the race. Sam Brownback was a solid conservative and pro-life candidate, but he didn’t even place in Iowa because most of the people who otherwise would have voted for him voted for Huckabee.
Haley Barbour would probably make a better president than he would a candidate. I’ve heard him speak and like what he says, though that accent might be a hard sell in parts of the country, especially the states we should have carried in 2008 and didn’t. Daniels, no way. He killed any serious chances he might have had when he advocated abandoning the social issues. Which brings me to the wider issue: The media are always advising the GOP to drop the social issues, abandon the religious right (however they define it), and stick to economics. How thoughtful of them to give us advice, I’m sure they wish us well (not), but I can’t help hearing the voice of B’rer Rabbit begging not to be tossed into the briar patch.
I agree. The Deep South accent hurts Barbour because the ruling class media keeps alive prejudice against the South. Much like they keep repeating lies about Palin. At some point we have to forget the ruling class media’s take. They are less and less relevant every day. The smears against Palin are beginning to fade. She wins on her sterling record, which the McCain campaign knew eclipsed Johnnie’s and did not celebrate. She wins on personal warmth. She wins on leadership, way ahead of anyone you can name. She wins on inspiration, needed to get all those volunteers working long hours. She wins on policy, she has been articulate and correct on a truck load of issues. She wins because she has the media’s number, their arrows will fall short or be deflected skillfully, by someone who has flummoxed the media for over a year. I think we have a winning candidate.
What’s objectively best for the country and what excites voters may be two separate things.
Oh good grief. Look at all thats going on in the State Department, the labor
department, well all the departments. Palin is the only one that will turn
them on their heads, all the others or nothing but democrat lite. Get a clue,
you want the country back or NOT
The most interesting possibility for me is Chris Christie – although he has said many times he’s not interested – at least in 2012. I like his style and the video of him dressing down that ‘sensitive’ reporter is simply hilarious. He has enough mess on his hands cleaning up the toxic mess in New Jersey. Yes he’s a bit of a smart-ass but in a good natured way. So is Obama – but in a more cynical manner.
For me that leaves Sarah Palin – who has been collecting IOU’s left and right across the nation. I think she has the smarts to run this country but I doubt she’d be a uniter. The MSM wouldn’t allow it – but then again they’d have been all over McCain had he been elected – no matter how appeasing he were to the left.
I think the message has sunk in – eh John? They only loved you for sticking a finger in Bush’s eye – not for being a ‘maverick’ – because you never were – you were a useful idiot to the MSM. About the only thing I can thank McCain for is his service to our country – and for shining a spotlight on a then unknown Sarah Palin. Without that we’d never have heard of her.
Barbour? From what I’ve seen of him in the coverage of the Katrina aftermath he seems to be getting things done without the whining we hear that is so prevalent from his democrat counterparts who’ve had their palms outstretched toward DC instead of doing the hard work that breeds success. Getting things done is what we expect from Republicans. He reminds me more of a farmer than a Governor.
http://www.haleyspac.com/content/about-haley
Why so afraid of the media? Continue that way and you will never win, and certainly not with a candidate that WILL reduce government.
If Sarah runs, and Huckabee does not, she will win the primary. Then she’ll defeat O by simply pulling 4-5% of voters and taking the five eastern states lost plus CO. Election over. And, we get the Senate in 2012 if we don’t this year.
I fail to see where I stated I was ‘afraid’ of the media. I’m not. There are many republicans who are – John McCain for one. What the republicans need to do is follow Palin’s example of ignoring the MSM until the attacks become personal — which too often they do – especially with her kids which should be off limits to all but the MSM find as fair game. These morons in the MSM are bleeding themselves with multitudes of self-inflicted paper cuts.
And the other question might be, Is the MSM going to be around long enough to continue to be a force majeure in 2012? They are swirling down the toilet faster and faster.
“The various memes used to demonize Palin still dominate the electorate’s consciousness whether we like it or not.”
Who cares if we hand them a pistol loaded with blanks, not to mention the left is outnumbered?
Bottom line, I will not vote for the man who thought Romneycare was a good idea, I will not vote for Pawlenty, aka Romney-lite. I might vote for Barbour as VP under Palin. I might vote for Christi in either slot, and I might vote for Jindal in either slot.
I will not vote for a Rino, period. I won’t campaign for one, I won’t donate for one.
Same here. No way I’m voting Rino, big gov GOP ever again.
If it ain’t securely right of center and trimming back the excesses of government, what’s the point?
Huckabee = Pawlenty = Romney, bleh!
If it isn’t someone who will credibly move in the direction of reversing the Prog’s BS clear back to the New Deal, I’m just not interested.
I’m all for anyone known by the names “Anti-Obama” and “Mr. Fixit”. Lord knows we need someone with a spine to repair all the damage done by Obama.
SARAH!
Sarah’s very exciting, but excitement’s overrated. Remember the big argument about experience in 2008? Palin and Obama had similar amounts of experience under their belts, and we’re seeing what happens when the POTUS is in over his head. Palin quit the governorship of Alaska since then so she doesn’t have much more experience now.
Date the biker, marry the engineer.
Wrong about ‘similar amounts of experience.’ As for all 4 people on both tickets, Sarah was the ONLY one with Executive Experience, at multiple levels of government. She also ran a business. Being President requires executive experience…not necessarily ‘government experince.’
Quit buying that lefty canard; it’s simply a trick to drag Palin down and pull Obama up. Sarah was the most qualified person on either ticket in 2008.
“wrong”? Who the hell are you, “chairforce” vet??! You’re free to disagree, but _I_ think Palin’s limited time in national politics was similar to Obama’s and you didn’t say anything to convince me otherwise; I did not “fall for a lefty canard” but came to that conclusion after reading and thought-geez.
The difference of course was that Palin was only running for the #2 job while Obama stupidly thought he was qualified for POTUS.
Oooo…”chairforce”…you think that up yourself? Where/when did you serve?
“You’re free to disagree,”
Damn right I am.
“but _I_ think Palin’s limited time in national politics was similar to Obama’s”
See…there’s your problem. You think “national politics” is some great qualifier for President. I prefer “Executive Experience”, as it’s more appropriate for those running for leadership in the “Executive” branch.
Obama had NONE. Fact.
Biden had NONE. Fact.
McCain had NONE. Fact.
All three were Senators. Senators are NOT Executives…they’re committee members. And if you hadn’t noticed, look what all that “Government Exeprience” has done for us in the last few years.
So you can “think” what you want, but it doesn’t negate facts. Otherwise, you’re simply ignoring reality.
“and you didn’t say anything to convince me otherwise;”
Sorry that your mind is too feeble and rigid to recognize FACTS.
“I did not “fall for a lefty canard””
It sure looks like you did.
“but came to that conclusion after reading and thought-geez.”
Really? What did you ‘read’ to lead you to this conclusion? Because you may seriously want to switch up your literary intake, as it’s doing you no favors.
And as for ‘thought’? Yeah…like others spewing lefty talking points, I don’t see a lot of ‘thought’ coming from your post. Geez.
You just seriously decreased the likelihood that I’ll vote for Palin in the primaries; the husband and offspring (oldest 3 will be able to vote in 2012) respect my opinion and will likely give it weight when deciding how to vote in primaries, and my opinion is respected at our church. Were you actually thinking you would be able to convince me to change my mind by insulting me?
re chairforce: ad hominem attacks aren’t much fun on the receiving end, are they? And when they’re used in lieu of a substantive response, they tell us that you don’t really have an argument.
Again, I don’t think Sarah Palin has enough experience to be president and so I probably won’t vote for her in next year’s primary. That isn’t “wrong”, because it’s MY respected, thought-out opinion that will affect MY vote. Neither left-wing nor right-wing nuts are going to be able to successfully bully me into voting the way I decide-got it?
“You just seriously decreased the likelihood that I’ll vote for Palin in the primaries;
Seriously lady…if you are making your decision on who to vote for based on blog comments sections, maybe you ought to stay away from the voting booth. It’s your type that gave us Obama.
“the husband and offspring (oldest 3 will be able to vote in 2012) respect my opinion and will likely give it weight when deciding how to vote in primaries,”
Good for you.
“and my opinion is respected at our church.”
So is mine.
“Were you actually thinking you would be able to convince me to change my mind by insulting me?”
Nope…just letting the world know how hollow your ‘thinking’ was, by ignoring FACTS when they were put right in front of your face. The sign of a weak intellect.
“re chairforce: ad hominem attacks aren’t much fun on the receiving end, are they?”
Sorry, but I have news for ya toots–that’s not the first time I’ve been called a member of the ‘chairforce.’ (did your husband teach you that one?) I’ve spent most of my career working Joint assignments…that means the interservice jokes between branches fly freely in the workplace.
“And when they’re used in lieu of a substantive response, they tell us that you don’t really have an argument.”
Really? Because you’ve been ignoring my substantive responses for several posts now.
“Again, I don’t think Sarah Palin has enough experience to be president”
Facts be damned…
“and so I probably won’t vote for her in next year’s primary.
Somehow, if she decides to run, I don’t think she’ll need your vote. And by the way, you’d have to be a Republican to vote for her in the primaries.
“…because it’s MY respected,”
In your own mind–I can point out many more people who respect my, informed and much more well-thought out opinion.
“Neither left-wing nor right-wing nuts are going to be able to successfully bully me into voting the way I decide”
No one’s bullying you, toots. Just trying to inform you. Your shrill reaction to facts isn’t my fault. Sounds like your own problem.
“-got it?”
Yeah….I’m shaking in the presence of your respected opinion.
Yep, Bush did have experience as governor of Texas. Got us into two wars, doubled the national debt.
That is what you were referring to, right?
“Yep, Bush did have experience as governor of Texas. Got us into two wars, doubled the national debt.”
Typical leftard response: “but Boooooosssshhhhh!”
“That is what you were referring to, right?”
Actually, genius, if you were paying attention, the big argument is “gvoernment experience” meaning ‘Washington D.C’ experience being necessary, which Jeanette was whining about.
But to answer your moonbat droolings:
Bush didn’t start the two wars. See, first off, there was this event on 9/11/2001. You familiar with it? Yeah, war was declared on us first.
Oh, and the Iraq War (which all the Dems voted FOR, by the way) was justified. See: Iraqi Air Defense firing on our jett patrolling the No Fly Zones for 10 years, Hussein supporting terrorism, and WMD…like the 1 million pounds of yellowcake uranium we found….oh, and the 17 broken UN resolutions. Yeah, I’m sure you already knew about all that.
As to “doubling the national debt”, something tells me your private area is tickled at the doubling Obama has done since he got in. By the way…care to comment on the career D.C. Democrats’ role in doubling of said ‘Bush debt?’
Yeah didn’t think so.
Now go back to the corner and plant your thumb squarely in your stinky spot, moonbat.
Bolton/Christie.
You heard it hear first.
Bolton is an interesting pick. Think he’d run?
Sarah will not be president until 2024 or 2028 when her intellect will have to compensate for her fleeting natural gifts. I do see her as President one day, just not in 2012.
Jindal-Haley 2012: I’ll Ride the Elephant if They Will
Rubio-Sandoval (Brian) 2020: Oh, THATS when the Mayan Calendar Thing supposed to kick in!!
After zigging, the electorate zags in an attempt to correct its previous mistake. The question is what kind of zag it will make. I think it will seek out maturity and experience. That might help Barbour, but does the recently energized grass roots want a former lobbyist? I doubt it.
Daniels, on the other hand, has a lot of diverse experience and a record of fiscal responsibility. He’s a genuine contender. Couple him with J.C. Watts, who brings experience, faith, and is African-American in a way that Obama never was and never could be, and you’ll have an unstoppable ticket.
Sarah has time. For now, she should be secretary of energy, and we’ll be happy to have her in that role. Make Newt secretary of state, and put Bobby Jindal in charge of HHS and the replacement of Obamacare, and we’ll have a competent government for a change.
You’re right, it is early… but, many are sensing momentum in this direction… The key for Barbour, in his own words, is whether or not he starts shedding pounds… if so, he’s in… and if he gets in, he’ll be tough to beat… the only caveat being if Romney, given his strength on the economy, is given a pass by faith-based Rs…
It is the financial muscle of the Right that will take Governor Palin out of the race if she attempts to run. There is no room in government for independent individuals, or those that shake things up and refuse to toe line of cartels running the USA.
Not that she can get elected, she has the same problem Secretary of State Clinton has; her supporters absolutely love them, detractors absolutely hate them. Each side will do whatever it take to see them elected/destroyed.
That is the political system we have so expertly crafted.
Palin has already had a hand in toppling centerline republican candidates (rinos) – most recently Lisa Murkowski in her own back yard. Granted she had help from the Tea Party. I don’t think the real impact of the Tea Party will be known until November — look for the MSM to downplay that big time. And it may not be fully felt until the ‘silly season’ gets into full swing next year when we gear up for another lengthy campaign grind and the rino candidates’ poll numbers start looking sour and the true conservative candidates begin to come to the forefront.
I’m betting it’ll knock the socks off the pundits in the MSM. There is much discontent in the heartland – I know – I live there. As a member of the TP what surprises me is the level of discontent among people I’ve known for many years that under normal circumstances couldn’t care less what’s happening in DC. Obama and the democrats have awakened a curiosity in people who haven’t ever taken an interest in the inner workings of our country – EVER. These people backed and voted for democrats like robots (Obamatons?). Until now – and most of them are cheering on the TP. The ones that aren’t certainly aren’ cheering on the democrats. They’ve just woken up and are wondering what the hell is going on.
November will be an election year to remember many years from then – as the MSM and the liberal elite ponder just what went wrong.
Who’d ever have imagined that in Washington State Patty Murray – with all the support of the democrat machine in state – and nationally – would be 5 or more points BEHIND a republican in September? Certainly not me – I know the politics of this state too well – it’s been a reliable democrat stronghold for many many years. Looks like the lock the dems have had on this state for so many years may be broken.
Ridiculous column.
Yah, we are gonna win with a white southerner and a balding boring governor who is already showing his wobbliness.
If it is a governor/governor ticket it is FAR more likely to be Palin/Pawlenty 2012.
Sarah Palin is the ONLY GOP hopeful that can generate the ‘crusade’ and unify the GOP/TPM/Fiscons/MamaGrizzlies.
As POTUS, Sarah WOULD work hard to reduce federal spending as she did in Alaska.
The woman is FEARLESS and that is what will be needed in a GOP candidate.
Anybody else lacks the guts.
Selfless, honest, determined, principled, charismatic, the warrior Palin will win the primary, unite the party and will defeat Obama because all she has to do is win the following 2008 close states plus CO or NV or IA, etc.: FL, OH, IN, VA, NC.
That is all that is needed. I’m in OHIO. There is no way Ohio votes another term to O over Sarah. Not a chance in Hell.
Sarah will not only be a strong candidate, but we are ASSURED she will govern aggressively to reduce the Federal government, spending, taxes, and put interpretationists on the federal courts. Through in the opening up of domestic energy resources and you can see us getting out of this economic mess the Dems and other Repubs put us in.
Barbour? You’ve got to be kidding me. Great Great insider and gov., but Axelrod is salivating at the prospect of running against him.
well said sapwolf all the others dont have the guts palin doesnt care what the elites think of her and will do what need to be done,
Jim DeMint/JC Watts.. that’d be an interesting ticket
Darn – I was so hoping for a Palin/Joe the Plumber ticket!
I hate to be the party pooper, but if we’re going to win in 2012 we need to see reality. As great as it would be to have our Sarah, God love her, she really does have more spunk than anything else. Because I think it will be hard for some to let go of that dream, this is why I have come to my current thinking.
Speaking of Barbour and Daniels having run a payroll, Sarah and her husband never did. He had a small business, snow machine sales, with a partner that seemed to fizzle out over some bad blood, but it never had a payroll. I think they tried a car wash, but that was a no-go. For the most part, he was a W-2 guy and she was a housewife.
Sarah was indeed mayor, but she had a city manager do the day-to-day. Add in the fact that the areas affecting city infrastructure were handled at a borough level, well, all I’m sayig is that Wasilla wasn’t a big job, not like what you think of when you think of a medium sized city. It was more of a town. The executvie experience there was pretty limited. She did bring a lot of big box stores to Wasilla to increase the tax base by offering incentives. That was good. But still not experience for the presidency.
She did get appointed to the Oil and Gas Commission, but I think that was more of a consolation prize. Also, it was a lay position – she didn’t have any oil and gas knowledge before that. Unfortunately, it was a job she quit before she could get her legs. I think the governor of North Dakota is actually more of an oil expert. (They are booming up there!)
Bringing us to the governorship. She had a good run for 18 months that resulted in the legislature passing ethics reform and the oil and gas sisters, AGIA and ACES. But those two pieces of legislation have not borne fruit. ACES has been under fire and AGIA has not been much of an inducement for Big Oil to get in line. Then she had to quit that. I guess she had her reasons, but I think they are going to end up hurting her with independents and moderates – the folks we need to team up with us.
If we run her, she brings, let’s face it, a huge personality but shallow experience up against a man who will have a full presidential term under his belt. Maybe not a term a lot are happy with, but you know what they say about the Devil you know.
Please do not pelt me with rotten tomatoes.
futurefaith says he/she hates to be the party pooper — and then appears to enjoy a fairly comprehensive party pooping.
Sort of thing, futurefaith, we will all see heaps of from RINOs and other “Democrats” during the next few years.
Perhaps you’d better pick sides?
(Although, have to say, seems you might already did)
If by having made up my mind you mean that I want a truly experienced person with a solid proven track record who CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND DEFEND IT outside of the cocoon of FOX News… yes, I have made up my mind. Call it pragmatism or call it just tired of defending something that is just not supported by facts. Call it anything you want. Just call it an “R” at the end of the race.
Sarah is fantastic and inspiring, but many of the details are the stuff of legend. A mythology created not only by Sarah in the course of normal political posturing, but also by the McCain campaign to make him more palatable (i.e. an “experienced executive” waiting in the wings should he kick the bucket). Her actual record does not support it. At the end of the day, she is very short on experience. And the experience she does have is going to come up very short against a one term president. Having quit the governorship, she isn’t going to get more. I know she’s got some great consultants helping her, but there is no “Cliff’s Notes” to replace experience.
I don’t blame people for getting swept away: I did too. But then I realized that the commenters at Huffpo that I’ve been wrestling with for 2 years are not the ones who will run the 2012 campaign. They’re having a ball poking fun at Sarah’s problems and her tweets and her “Sarah” way of saying things, but a campaign will be all about her RECORD. Moderates and independents are very much about the record.
Sorry, but I too want to move the country in the right direction. But we have to get someone in there FIRST or it will be another BO term.
You’re electing an individual to be the head of state, as well as the head of the executive branch. This isn’t a ward/town/district/state level office.
Are you sure you would want to hire someone merely on the basis of “perceived” “merit”?
Elect someone with absolutely no sense of dignity, gravitas or maturity?
Even if you manage to push this person through the primaries, would the unwashed mainstream masses (ahem) vote for this person in the general election?
Your choice of language, “Raj,” gives you away. We Constitutionally guided Americans would no more refer to President-Elect Palin as “someone” or as “this person” than we would call the present pretender to what you and the rest of his gang pushes as a “presidency” other than a mobbed-up Mussolini-modeled modified-Marxist murtadd-Muslim mother’s milquetoast.
And nor would any of us ever refer to We, The People, by far and away the world’s best informed, most innovative, creative, productive and industrious electorate, in such derogatory terms as “unwashed mainstream masses.” That kind of language being the hallmark of morally and intellectually challenged elitists of a totalitarian bent.
Good Lord, if you are representative of the New Right, the Party is dead for sure. Hey, “Constitutionally Guided American,” doesn’t someone have to actually win an election to be “Elect” anything.
And that’s some pretty fancy word-smithing for you to be calling anybody an elite. You sound very elite-y yourself.
Can’t we just hide you guys until after the election. Please?
“Confusion to the enemy”! Axlerod must be laughing.
The tea partiers and the hardliners will push an unelectable “individual” (may I refer to your heroes as “individuals”,”Brian”? or is it too uppity for a “Raj”
) in the primaries and we’ll have another 4 years of statism ….slouching towards third-world status .
Its time we called out the mindboggling muzzie milquetoast mezzanine marblebread All-American types to THINK before acting
Well well “Brian”, I’d vote for Bush or Cheney again. I DID vote for McCain/Palin. There goes your chest-thumping against the “furriner” who supports “muzzie” whatever.
Its hardline hate like this thats painting anyone who disagrees with you as the “unwashed” masses
Obviously the sarcasm flew right over your head.
So, if I prefer Romney or Huckabee over Palin, it must be because I’m a furriner brain-washed by the MSM eh?
Anyway, whatever gave you the idea that I was talking about Palin?
Did I mention any names?
Raj, some facts are too big to hide.
The teacher in Homer didn’t actually name any names either on her banner, “Worst Governor Ever,” but Sarah knew Kathleen Gustafson was talking about her.
I think, deep down, these guys know Sarah doesn’t live up to the dream, but they are too emotionally invested to give it up and think pragmatically.
Barbour/Daniels: I like it. Hands-on executive experience. A track record of performance. Stick-to-itiveness. A firm commitment to balancing the budget. The will to reduce government bloat. A steady hand in times of crisis. This is exactly what our country needs and what this voter will support. No more newbies, thanks. By the time Obama-Biden have another year under their belt, this country will have had more than enough “excitement” and “charisma” to last a lifetime. Nice article, thought-provoking.
You folks are having a REALLY.TOUGH.TIME putting together a compelling ticket for 2012. Let me help . . . Angle/McMahon.
lol, Betty, thanks for the suggestion. We’ll give your opinion the weight it deserves.
What, you got a problem with Angle and McMahon?
I’d cross Barbour off any list. His adoration for the Confederacy, segregation and outsourcing will be his downfall in any debate.
We must only nominate a Republican who does not wish to take us back to the anti-American Confederacy, and who will do his best to prevent jobs from going overseas, even if if means making concessions to the labor unions.
Of all the potential candidates only Mitt Romney fits that bill.
I’d cross Barbour off any list. His adoration for the Confederacy, segregation and outsourcing will be his downfall in any debate.
We must only nominate a Republican who does not wish to take us back to the anti-American Confederacy, and who will do his best to prevent jobs from going overseas, even if if means making concessions to the labor unions.
Of all the potential candidates only Mitt Romney fits that bill.
Mit Romney??!!….Never, ever, never
Barbour/Daniels??? That is like saying if you want one of the most “ESTABLISHMENT” Republicans who has had his hand in how the Republican Party has operated over the last 20 years, then you want Barbour.
Wow.
Is that really what the Tea Party movement will be happy with? a really connected Establishment guy? he may be the most connected guy around, but I tell you, if he is the Presidential nominee for the Republicans, I want to know how he manages to win over all the Americans who are sick of politics as usual and will look at him as one of the Establishment Elites who live by that system.
And without the enthusiastic support of all the Americans who are in the Tea Party movement camp, he ain’t getting elected.
So, genius Republican strategists, tell me in a simple way how he gets around the image of the consumate Establishment insider.
Barbour/Daniels – what if they gave a national convention and most GOPers didn’t want to attend/watch. Boy that ticket will really reve up the grassrooters who actually do all of the work behind the scenes in each of the local GOP offices. There aren’t enough Young Republicans the RNC can pay each weekend to travel to PA, OH, NC, etc to knock on doors or work at local fairs/events.
First, there’s no way in hell Boss Hogg can win the general election. Sorry Barbour fans. You must face the facts (just like you preach how Sarah fans must face the facts): A Southern candidate, especially one who makes GWB seem like an Upper West Side Jew by comparison, is toxic. The media will eat him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Secondly, it’s doubtful he’d win win any primaries other than AL, MS, LA, & AR.
What background checks have the RNC put Barbour through before the NYT, WashPo, Time, Newsweek, HuffPo, etc have talked to every former girlfriend, teacher, business deals, etc.? The press will love him until he becomes the nominee; then two days after the Convention, the NYTimes runs a “John McCain had an affair”-like article above the fold.
The stories on mitch (daniels) have been glowing and rightly so, they are puff pieces written by his campaign staff. mitch has declared over and over again that he is not running for president. Of course, if someone were to draft him, how could he say no? Even his wife said he told her he was not running. As for his glowing record of jobs and how popular he is, most of the jobs he says he has created through luring companies to Indiana do not exist. Empty corn fields where he said plants were being built (maybe that is what he meant by grow the economy). Look to the Star and WTHR or other local tv outlet for details of his non-existant jobs. Of course, during the last election, the dems did not run a candidate against him–at least not a viable candidate. Losers. mitch has cut funding to schools, cut funding for poor, unhealthy, the young and the old. mitch keeps kicking those who cannot fight back. mitch suspended the health care program he says the federal health plan will shut down due to costs before he knew what the costs might be. He has already pulled the plug on the program. mitch kicked out the unions and wants to make teachers state employees so that he can break their union. mitch does not like public schools and is active in trying to get public tax dollars used as vouchers to send students to private schools and parochial schools. mitch has embraced the work of murray and his racist ideas on intelligence and how schools should be structured (if you do not pass certain tests in science, english and math you graduate in the 10th grade and go to community college, if you pass you get to complete high school (college prep courses) and go to college. Think about how this will further stratify society, all to perhaps save a few dollars in the short term. mitch is the budget director who put together the 2001 budget that created the bush tax cuts that expire (as planned by bush and mitch) this year. The republicans who were in charge of both houses and the executive branch voted for the tax cuts and, more to the point today, for the expiration of the tax cuts–they voted for the taxes to increase back to the 2001 levels. Now look at them bending over backwards trying to claim it is President Obama and the democrats who are raising taxes on Americans. In fact, if you allow boehner or pence to keep the bush/mitch tax cuts and ignore their voted upon and approved by republicans increase to 2001 levels, then we will increase the debt far beyond what it is now after we had to bail out the banks and wall street for their incredible lack of honesty and the mismanagement of the economy under bush and the republicans. mitch is a nasty little man who will stab anyone in the back who speaks against him. mitch is of middle eastern heritage, although he never talks of it, and he cuts funding to the poor while making sure athletes and owners are well taken care of. Do some research on mitch. Bad for Indiana, bad for America. Cannot balance a budget or make legitimate revenue and expenditure forecasts.
Akla, I waded through your poor spelling and lack of familiarity with the use of capital letters, because unlike jimmy up there, you at least are familiar with the space bar. You do realize that you come across as uneducated when you don’t take the time to write correctly? From the way you described Gov. Daniels, we recognize your liberal leanings. I’d feared he was a fiscal conservative only, but if he’s for school vouchers and dismantling unions, he can’t be all bad!
Palin would be destroyed by Obama in the debates. Paul Ryan would destroy Obama. I’m not sure about Haley Barbour. Regardless of what we think, he is a self described “fat redneck.” I just dont know if the middle can be sold on that. But, I’ve never seen the man speak extemporaneously or at length.
I don’t want Culture War Candidates i.e. Sarah and Barry. I want the budget cut, and cut again. Yes, I’m secular and don’t care one single bit about your religion.
Palin cleaned Biden’s clock. She also won her debates in her governor’s race against much better pols than Biden. Obama has nothing now. Sarah without the McCain shackles is very good on her feet. Obama or Hillary would both give way.
Palin did no such thing, unless you are talking Broadway showmanship, because that’s all she did: put on a show. She sidestepped every question because she simply couldn’t answer anything with any depth of policy knowledge. Everything she says can be put on a bumper sticker. Surely we’ve got better people that that to draw from. Frankly, as a voter, I want a more.
Palin may be a wonderful gal, but her record shows she stinks at actually holding office. The Liberals whose questions she avoids today, will be the conservatives whose questions she runs from tomorrow. I guarantee it.
Remember what they say about dating the one who cheated with you: they’ll damn sure cheat ON you.
What’s it like in your fantasy world? I mean, is it like where you get to hit the winning home run, and all your friends carry you off on their shoulders, and you win the girl of your dreams?
That sort of thing?
Or is it one where you vote Democrat and unicorns fly over your house and poop pastel M&Ms on you all day?
I can only assume it’s a fantasy world you live in, based on your screwed up recollection of the VP debate.
Michigan Tea Party, af_vet? I smell a fake.
What are you smoking, toots? Who said anything about “Michigan Tea Party?”
(shakes head)
Haley Barbour…nope, Sarah Palin…nope, whose it gonna be? Don’t know but I do know that the lefty media isn’t going to pick the next candidate like they did McCain…..he sucked bad. To be fair no one was going to beat ozero in ’08 because his cheaply glued veneer hadn’t started to peel yet.
Myra: Your article notes that Barbour is term-limited, but fails to mention that Daniels is as well.
First off, the writer is mistaken. In 1948 the R’s ran Tom Dewey and Earl Warren, governors of New York & California respectively, who of course lost. As to Barbour/Daniels, or the reverse permutation, or any other combination of either with a Huckabee, Gingrich, DeMint, Pawlenty, Romney, or other shopworn names guarantees O’s re-election. And much as I love her Sarah on the ticket in ’012 will provide the extended MSM- incl. the tabloids with a perpetual moving target, making it impossible to focus attacks on O’s policy agenda. Sarah needs to bide her time, she’s just too honest and personally vulnerable now to withstand the relentless jihad the Dems have mounted, and will even more ferociously will mount against her if she become a candidate again. What the R’s sorely need IMHO is a truly dark horse (somewhat as Ike was in ’52), somebody who can be portrayed as “above politics.” Petraeus would be ideal, if he ever could be persuaded to run. Otherwise I’d suggest (as the Dylan line has it)’a complete unknown’, but with both business and hard-knuckles political (or military) experience. I solicit other names from readers if these speculations extend to future PJ articles.
Take one look at that new YOUNG GUNS ad to see why the establishment won’t do in 2012. That has to be the cheesiest, lamest most embarrassing political ad …..EVAAAAH! What was Ryan thinking!
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/02/video-gop-launches-new-er-young-guns-ad/
Yes it is too early.
I say we should run the same ticket in ’12 that we should have run in ’08. We can’t elect Bush/Cheney a third time, right? So we elect Cheney/Bush. Bam, done. Back to sanity for another eight years. (After that we’ll have to get more creative.)
how about a Christie/Ryan ticket?
Well, SURE, if the likes of Newsweek tells me that Barbour is the one I need and want, then, of course, by all means, yes! Mmhmm, Newsweek is the perfect source for conservative direction, yep. Or maybe there’s such thing as a bad endorsement…
Meld together Allen West (oh, how I would love to see him toe to toe with Obama in a debate sans teleprompter!), Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan and Chris Christie and you have my candidate. With Bachmann as Speaker, naturally.
“Palin would be destroyed by Obama in the debates. Paul Ryan would destroy Obama.”
I think you give too much credit to BO. He is all tired talking points and ideological sound bites. And he won’t be able to credibly blame Bush at that point. Anyway, he will minimize debates since teleprompters are useless there. But Palin needs a lot of work for sure.
The real question is how many voters are will be on the fence when these debates take place. The “great uniter” is so polarizing that I’ll bet by 2012 that 90% of the population either bows in adoration or recoils in visceral disgust no matter what he says.
“Palin would be destroyed by Obama in the debates.”
That is among the silliest things I have ever heard. The teleprompter in chief would be eviscerated by just the notes that would fit in half her single palm.
Do you really think any white man has a chance to be president again?
I hope not.
Its only been 24 months since McCain surprised us all by asking Palin to be his running mate. Who can forget her barnstormer speech to the GOP convention when she cut wee Barry down to size? The enthusiastic response from Republicans, the look of dismay from the Democrats, the unity of purpose from the media that she had to be stopped.
Looking back on it all I only wish Sarah had turned down John’s offer & stayed in Alaska & continued to govern with wisdom & common sense. Finish out her first 4 year term, get re-elected with an increased majority & at the same time prepare for a larger role in US politics & govt. With guidance & advisors who could help in her education regarding world affairs she could have been fully prepared for the main event in 2012.
Alas as much as I like her & admire her as well as Todd & the family, she is now a deeply flawed political candidate having stepped down as governor. No matter how much I wish it were not so, it remains the truth. Yes she inspires me & like her support many of the tea party candidates nationwide but a 2012 presidential run to me is unthinkable.
Frankly it will be an uphill struggle to regain the White House after 2 years of the GOP controlling congress should they retake it as in ’94. Hopefully they will have learned their lessons from the debacle of 95 & 96 but I wouldn’t put money on the brain capacity of that group of inside-the-beltway boys. By 2012 the media will have him as the comeback kid, with Hillary as VP… in preparation for another 4 years of the Obamateur hour.
Personally I just want a union of competency & conservatism. Show me a leader who has led. Made executive decisions especially in times of heat & crisis. Someone with a proven track record of accomplishments with a plan of action for America’s future. A dash of inspiration is always a bonus. Never again should a presidential candidate have a work resume that would fit on the back of fortune cookie paper.
I have been in the US since 1994 & every 4 years think to myself… Clinton, Dole, Bush, Gore, Kerry, Obama, McCain… seriously a nation of 300 million & this is the best we can come up with?
I love all the speculation about the GOP Presidential nominee. I’ve been following it since the day after the 2008 election.
First, I have to say this. Sarah Palin will not run. I know there are millions of people who would like to see her run, but nobody has ever been able to give me a single reason why should would want to run. She’s been enjoying her celebrity status and all the nice green money she’s been making since she got out of politics. Why would she turn her back on all of that? Sarah knows that if she ran for President she would have to give speeches for free. Right now she makes about $50,000 a pop for speaking engagements. Running for president is hard work and involves speaking to a hostile press. No, Sarah isn’t going to run and if I’m wrong I promise to spend most of 2012 admitting it.
Now, to my choice to replace her.
The GOP needs a beautiful woman with perfect conservative credentials. Someone who excites the base. Someone who has shown that she’s not afraid to speak her mind and the liberal press be darned. Someone with experience in Washington who is not a part of the Washington establishment either inside or outside the GOP.
In other words……..
Bachmann 2012
Wow nice candidates guys! Smart money is on your boy Hussein Obama being in office for another 6 years. Sorry angry old white people, history passed you by.
With all the “I’ll never vote for XYZ!!!” in the comments above, we are likely to have Obama for another term. And then, history will have passed America by.
I liked Palin ok when she first appeared on the scene but have been very unimpressed since then. She doesn’t seem to have good judgment and doesn’t know when to keep a low profile. Rather than quietly trying to brush up on her education, she has become a lightning rod fpr many issues. I am also tired of her family’s woes. I do not want a president who carries a child under her arm either.
Right now, I don’t think there is a very viable Republican candidate. I was hoping General Petraeus would consent to run. He seems to have the background, judgment, and managerial skills necessary but it is understandable that he does not want the job. Some of the governors are merely ok but are not that exciting.
Leftist ideology is supported by bums. Lazies who want Government handouts. Angries who want to use the Government to attack their adversaries. Gluttonous fat slobs who want more, more, more- of whatever;from Government and without earning it. Dopers, boozers, stupids, who want Government to subsidize their iniquities. Elitists, the spiritually, morally impoverished, who have deified themselves and want Government to enforce their delusions on the rest of us. The cowardly, those who have never even tried to succeed, and want Government to ensure a successful outcome for them nonetheless. The envious, feeling their way through life, who want Government to reward their irrationality with benefices stolen from productive people.
Daniels as a running mate needs to be thoroughly vetted first. His statement that moral and social issues need to be set aside and instead economic issues need to be focused on, is the statement of a person who has serious personal and moral issues occuring in his own life. I have a relative who worked for Daniels in an official capacity, and while he agreed with his political views, he had a problem with how he lived his personal life and his treatment of those around him. This of course is always the perenniel debate, should what a politican does in his/her private life have any bearing on his/her public life. But if a person cannot be trusted with the little things in life, should he/she be trusted with the greater things in life? As with the case of Clinton, the line was that his cheating on Hillary was his personal business, but the truth of the matter is that if he would cheat on his wife, that shows him to be a dishonest and sadistic personality, is that really the type of personality that should be leading a nation? Obviously no. Anyone who wants to set aside social concerns does so because of a guilty conscience. It is up to party leaders to find out what he is hiding.