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		<title>By: BettyBlue</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/pope-brings-his-gentle-touch-to-the-holy-land/#comment-263665</link>
		<dc:creator>BettyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an interesting article about the vaunted &quot;Two State Solution&quot; (warning: graphic photo, halfway down) http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2009/05/who-needs-palestinian-state.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting article about the vaunted &#8220;Two State Solution&#8221; (warning: graphic photo, halfway down) <a href="http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2009/05/who-needs-palestinian-state.html" rel="nofollow">http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2009/05/who-needs-palestinian-state.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blackwater</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/pope-brings-his-gentle-touch-to-the-holy-land/#comment-262485</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeesh. I&#039;ve seen so many insanely crazy muslim leaders that I almost forgot how pleasent and graceful the Pope is. And before anyone says &quot;Hey! Let&#039;s see how&#039;d you act if you were being oppressed by the evil Israeli empire!&quot; Uh, Christians have plenty to be angry over as well. Black Christians in Sudan are being systematically raped, murdered and literally enslaved by arab muslims. Christian villages and churches all across the middle east and several other islamic states around the world are being systematically cleansed through rape, murder and all kinds of other abuses like arresting them for simply carrying Bible&#039;s or congregating privately in a home to worship. And they&#039;re kidnapping and beheading and suicide bombing and gunning down Christians, Jews, Biddhists, Hindus, etc, all around the world every freaking day. Yet Christians still remain calm and peaceful (too much so in my opinion). So don&#039;t give me any crap about Jewish and Christian &quot;oppression&quot;. You islamist apologists make a mockery of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeesh. I&#8217;ve seen so many insanely crazy muslim leaders that I almost forgot how pleasent and graceful the Pope is. And before anyone says &#8220;Hey! Let&#8217;s see how&#8217;d you act if you were being oppressed by the evil Israeli empire!&#8221; Uh, Christians have plenty to be angry over as well. Black Christians in Sudan are being systematically raped, murdered and literally enslaved by arab muslims. Christian villages and churches all across the middle east and several other islamic states around the world are being systematically cleansed through rape, murder and all kinds of other abuses like arresting them for simply carrying Bible&#8217;s or congregating privately in a home to worship. And they&#8217;re kidnapping and beheading and suicide bombing and gunning down Christians, Jews, Biddhists, Hindus, etc, all around the world every freaking day. Yet Christians still remain calm and peaceful (too much so in my opinion). So don&#8217;t give me any crap about Jewish and Christian &#8220;oppression&#8221;. You islamist apologists make a mockery of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: David P</title>
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		<dc:creator>David P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 03:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not debating that the Hitler Youth was more or less compulsory for children, those deeds are excusable.  

I&#039;m not looking for remorseful gestures either, I don&#039;t care if the pontiff is ashamed, proud or feels absolved from any responsibility.  

The Israeli&#039;s rolled out the red carpet, took extreme security measures and welcomed his Holiness with top honors.  

Benedict XVI reciprocated with an inciting &amp; commanding declaration to a crowd of Arabs that a 23rd Islamic state be established in the center of Israel.  

Exploiting Israel&#039;s safety umbrella to give speeches in support of dismantling the very security barriers that provide Ratzinger his slanderous forum is NAIVE &amp; reveals a lack in evolution from his days of compulsory decision making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not debating that the Hitler Youth was more or less compulsory for children, those deeds are excusable.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not looking for remorseful gestures either, I don&#8217;t care if the pontiff is ashamed, proud or feels absolved from any responsibility.  </p>
<p>The Israeli&#8217;s rolled out the red carpet, took extreme security measures and welcomed his Holiness with top honors.  </p>
<p>Benedict XVI reciprocated with an inciting &amp; commanding declaration to a crowd of Arabs that a 23rd Islamic state be established in the center of Israel.  </p>
<p>Exploiting Israel&#8217;s safety umbrella to give speeches in support of dismantling the very security barriers that provide Ratzinger his slanderous forum is NAIVE &amp; reveals a lack in evolution from his days of compulsory decision making.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocy r us</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/pope-brings-his-gentle-touch-to-the-holy-land/#comment-262010</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocy r us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typos_r_us calls Benedict XVI a former Nazi.  The man was a child when he joined the Hitler Youth, which was compulsory. (That means, typos, that one had to join, otherwise Mom and Dad went to prison. I only explain this because it is apparent that you are dense enough to require an explanation.)  He served honorably in the Wehrmacht, (that&#039;s the German army, typos, not Nazi party bodies such as the SS or the SA) which was also compulsory for able-bodied young men, and ended the war as a POW.  Neither constitutes being a Nazi, former or otherwise, but are quite consistent with being a young German man in the 1940&#039;s.  Buffoons such as yourself, typos, would do better to keep quiet and perhaps their idiocy might then pass unmarked.  As it is, thanks for presenting such a target-rich opportunity. And no, I am not Catholic, nor an apologist for the Pope.  I do, however, recognize a fool when I see one. Thanks for playing, and make sure you stop on the way out to pick up your lovely parting gifts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typos_r_us calls Benedict XVI a former Nazi.  The man was a child when he joined the Hitler Youth, which was compulsory. (That means, typos, that one had to join, otherwise Mom and Dad went to prison. I only explain this because it is apparent that you are dense enough to require an explanation.)  He served honorably in the Wehrmacht, (that&#8217;s the German army, typos, not Nazi party bodies such as the SS or the SA) which was also compulsory for able-bodied young men, and ended the war as a POW.  Neither constitutes being a Nazi, former or otherwise, but are quite consistent with being a young German man in the 1940&#8242;s.  Buffoons such as yourself, typos, would do better to keep quiet and perhaps their idiocy might then pass unmarked.  As it is, thanks for presenting such a target-rich opportunity. And no, I am not Catholic, nor an apologist for the Pope.  I do, however, recognize a fool when I see one. Thanks for playing, and make sure you stop on the way out to pick up your lovely parting gifts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pope is anything but naive on the Middle East.  Lacking imagination, among other things, the MSM lurched between characterizing his trip as piddling ecumenicalism and insidious whitewashing: half acoustic-guitars-and-felt-dove-art, half Tin Drum.  

They need to update their templates.   

Those genuinely worried about the Pope&#039;s commitments might read _Without Roots_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pope is anything but naive on the Middle East.  Lacking imagination, among other things, the MSM lurched between characterizing his trip as piddling ecumenicalism and insidious whitewashing: half acoustic-guitars-and-felt-dove-art, half Tin Drum.  </p>
<p>They need to update their templates.   </p>
<p>Those genuinely worried about the Pope&#8217;s commitments might read _Without Roots_.</p>
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		<title>By: typos_R_us</title>
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		<dc:creator>typos_R_us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 04:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What jw said, to which I add for Mrs. Scailia&#039;s benefit;

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie die Juden holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

In aiding this former Nazi, the Pope, in his most recent anti-semitic endeavor, you are in the position of the hausfrau who when the SS showed up for her Jewish neighbors, pulled the blinds down and went back to polishing the end table.

The &quot;Palestinians&quot; WERE given land in the Balfour declaration, the 1938 White Paper AND the 1947 UN settlement.  That land was called Jordan.
Please note that the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians ( hereafter ATCTP) want to return to the 1967 boundaries.  That is because they took land from Israel in &#039;48 that Israel took back in &#039;67.  No, if the ATCTP were serious, they would recognize Israel&#039;s right to exist, stop teaching anti-semitism in their schools, stop their terror campaign and agree to the original UN partition boundaries.
That isn&#039;t going to happen.  So one side will be slaughtered.  It is not within the power of the west to prevent the slaughter.  All we can do is pick the winner.
You and your bud, the Nazi Pope, are picking the Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What jw said, to which I add for Mrs. Scailia&#8217;s benefit;</p>
<p>Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,<br />
habe ich geschwiegen;<br />
ich war ja kein Kommunist.</p>
<p>Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,<br />
habe ich geschwiegen;<br />
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.</p>
<p>Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,<br />
habe ich nicht protestiert;<br />
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.</p>
<p>Als sie die Juden holten,<br />
habe ich geschwiegen;<br />
ich war ja kein Jude.</p>
<p>Als sie mich holten,<br />
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.</p>
<p>In aiding this former Nazi, the Pope, in his most recent anti-semitic endeavor, you are in the position of the hausfrau who when the SS showed up for her Jewish neighbors, pulled the blinds down and went back to polishing the end table.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Palestinians&#8221; WERE given land in the Balfour declaration, the 1938 White Paper AND the 1947 UN settlement.  That land was called Jordan.<br />
Please note that the Arabs that call themselves Palestinians ( hereafter ATCTP) want to return to the 1967 boundaries.  That is because they took land from Israel in &#8217;48 that Israel took back in &#8217;67.  No, if the ATCTP were serious, they would recognize Israel&#8217;s right to exist, stop teaching anti-semitism in their schools, stop their terror campaign and agree to the original UN partition boundaries.<br />
That isn&#8217;t going to happen.  So one side will be slaughtered.  It is not within the power of the west to prevent the slaughter.  All we can do is pick the winner.<br />
You and your bud, the Nazi Pope, are picking the Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: David P</title>
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		<dc:creator>David P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand a catholic persons defensive posturing when it comes to their pontiff, but this dribble reveals the authors profound naivete &amp; entrenched disdain for Israeli&#039;s (Jews).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand a catholic persons defensive posturing when it comes to their pontiff, but this dribble reveals the authors profound naivete &amp; entrenched disdain for Israeli&#8217;s (Jews).</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those wondering why Pope Benedict hasn&#039;t made a direct statement about Obama/Notre Dame, Damian Thompson explains it in his critique of the recent &lt;em&gt;Time&lt;/em&gt; article on the subject:

&quot;[Amy Sullivan] implies that the Vatican is chilled about Notre Dame&#039;s decision, unlike Cardinals George, DiNardo, Stafford and Archbishop Dolan. No, it isn&#039;t. The Pope, for perfectly good reasons, is leaving the protests to the local Church rather than turn Fr John Jenkins&#039;s disastrous invitation into an international diplomatic incident.&quot;

The reason Thompson mentions is the principle of subsidiarity, key to Catholic social teaching, which holds that a higher authority should not do what properly belongs to a lower authority. The first response in a case like this properly belongs to the American bishops, and they have made that response; the Pope evidently does not see a need to do anything else at this time. It doesn&#039;t fit our notions of public relations, but it&#039;s how the Church works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those wondering why Pope Benedict hasn&#8217;t made a direct statement about Obama/Notre Dame, Damian Thompson explains it in his critique of the recent <em>Time</em> article on the subject:</p>
<p>&#8220;[Amy Sullivan] implies that the Vatican is chilled about Notre Dame&#8217;s decision, unlike Cardinals George, DiNardo, Stafford and Archbishop Dolan. No, it isn&#8217;t. The Pope, for perfectly good reasons, is leaving the protests to the local Church rather than turn Fr John Jenkins&#8217;s disastrous invitation into an international diplomatic incident.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reason Thompson mentions is the principle of subsidiarity, key to Catholic social teaching, which holds that a higher authority should not do what properly belongs to a lower authority. The first response in a case like this properly belongs to the American bishops, and they have made that response; the Pope evidently does not see a need to do anything else at this time. It doesn&#8217;t fit our notions of public relations, but it&#8217;s how the Church works.</p>
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		<title>By: BettyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>BettyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I think we&#039;re perfectly justified in questioning the viability of a Palestinian state, even if a nice guy like the pope thinks it&#039;s a good idea.  The Anchoress herself links to a post by Bookworm, pointing out that the Palestinians do have a state, and it&#039;s called Jordan; and some posters at her site are pointing out the problems with creating yet another radical Islamic nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I think we&#8217;re perfectly justified in questioning the viability of a Palestinian state, even if a nice guy like the pope thinks it&#8217;s a good idea.  The Anchoress herself links to a post by Bookworm, pointing out that the Palestinians do have a state, and it&#8217;s called Jordan; and some posters at her site are pointing out the problems with creating yet another radical Islamic nation.</p>
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		<title>By: BettyBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>BettyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the church can be quite ruthless when enforcing its decrees on those of its members who aren&#039;t rich, Kennedys or presidents of the United States.  

I had an aunt, a wonderful woman, who was excommunicated.  She was married to my uncle, who&#039;d been married once before, so, technically, her marriage to him was invalid, and she couldn&#039;t go to communion, or be considered a full member of the church, for most of her adult life.  They had no problem disciplining her.  And the mother of my best friend in school was in the same position; excommunicated, no communion, bad woman, very bad!

Again, no problem laying down the law here.  Yet, somehow Obama can support abortion---supposedly something the church is very strongly opposed to, and he gets not only a pass, but even the pope himself won&#039;t come out and criticize him?

Don, yes, good point; if the Pope isn&#039;t political, he should stop pushing for a Palestinian state.  If he is political, then he ought to be criticized, just like any other politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the church can be quite ruthless when enforcing its decrees on those of its members who aren&#8217;t rich, Kennedys or presidents of the United States.  </p>
<p>I had an aunt, a wonderful woman, who was excommunicated.  She was married to my uncle, who&#8217;d been married once before, so, technically, her marriage to him was invalid, and she couldn&#8217;t go to communion, or be considered a full member of the church, for most of her adult life.  They had no problem disciplining her.  And the mother of my best friend in school was in the same position; excommunicated, no communion, bad woman, very bad!</p>
<p>Again, no problem laying down the law here.  Yet, somehow Obama can support abortion&#8212;supposedly something the church is very strongly opposed to, and he gets not only a pass, but even the pope himself won&#8217;t come out and criticize him?</p>
<p>Don, yes, good point; if the Pope isn&#8217;t political, he should stop pushing for a Palestinian state.  If he is political, then he ought to be criticized, just like any other politician.</p>
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