That’s a good one. Our President is really an idiot when he’s off the teleprompter. Unfortunately.for.us.

“The only people fooled by his statement are the dopey religious libs who are even more stupid and gulliable (sic) than the secular lefties.”

Do you ever think before your fingers hit the keyboard? Nobody is fooling anyone here. You just said you work in a religious health care organization. So he is bringing to these people’s attention that the new legislation will work in similar fashion to the system you well know.

“we are not ’socialized’ – not yet.”

Take a look at this:

“Baptists and Socialized Medicine

John Leland, the famed revolutionary era Baptist evangelist who championed religious freedom, was adament(sic) about separation of church and state: he even insisted that the state should not grant ministers and congregations tax breaks.

Leland would be probably be appaled(sic) if he were alive today and could see the tax favoritisms granted to ministers and congregations by the U.S. government. Yet the tax favoritism does not come without strings: for instance, in addition to not being taxed on housing, an ordained minister may opt of paying Social Security and Medicare if he or she has moral, ethical or religious objections to participating in socialized medicine and retirement.

While some Baptist ministers do opt out of socialized medicine and retirement (or so I am told), most apparently do not. In fact, when I recently queried some minister friends about their participation in socialized medicine and retirement, several otherwise conservative Baptists defended their own involvement in socialism.

At the same time, some of these very same conservative Baptists insist that socialized medicine, while fine for them, should not be made available to their fellow Americans. This attitude of “socialized medicine is fine for me but allowing my fellow Americans to have it will ruin the country” seems to be the same attitude that is playing out in tea parties and anger-ridden town hall health care meetings: a lot of (primarily) senior citizens (and all white, I might add) on socialized medicine are ticked off that Americans at large may be allowed to also receive socialized medicine.

What does it say for Baptists (and other clergy) and senior citizens (and conservatives at that) who refuse to give up their socialized medicine, to insist that their fellow Americans not be allowed into their socialist club? Perhaps this is just a little snapshot of how America has become a nation of selfish individuals (including religious folk) who are only concerned with their own interests and who have little to no compassion for their fellow Americans. I’d like to think this is not the case, but I’m not so sure anymore.”

Pretty interesting, right?

“Voluntary charity is not the same as socialism, idiot.”

Look at yourself in a mirror. What do you see? An idiot who does not understand the definition os SOCIALISM:

“Socialism refers to various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker (e.g. through cooperatives) ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with an egalitarian method of compensation”

It didn’t say Government, it can be a group of people who benefit from resources like HOSPITALS (surprise!!)

I agree with those who said to cut Cindy some slack. After all, she did pay the ultimate sacrifice a parent can pay, losing a son in war. One mistake she made: should have picketed Dick Cheney’s house as the war was his baby; still trying to restore that executive privilege lost in Watergate.

After that, Cindy’s sort of the Ann Coulter of the left wing. Neither has a lot of credibility, but have, and do engage in, a lot of empty & meaningless rhetoric.

The bottom line is that Sheehan was and is far, FAR more right, so to speak, than the people making fun of her (and that supposed anti-Semite stuff was never more than the usual, straight from the butt, right wing BS). Bush did lie about the war, her son died for no good reason aside from him being the good soldier in good faity, so Bush really should have been impeached, and I’ll always regard Pelosi as a useless, untrustworthy, and cynically business as usual politician because of the non-impeachment stuff.