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January 9, 2014 - 12:25 am

You don’t want to miss Trifecta’s three part series on Colorado. In part one, Trifecta discusses Colorado’s legalization of marijuana through Amendment 64. Is state reefer reform a healthy exercise of 10th Amendment rights, or will it turn America into a nation of pot smoking stoners? The answer might surprise you.

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For Skeet shooter- from a retired and more than slightly bored police detective on his "war on drugs" comment.

It kills me to hear this. There has been no "war on drugs". Only political footballs to get people elected and reelected. Why do I know this? Because in the twenty something years I served, nobody said, "Hey, see that sh**bag selling dope on that corner. Go over and kill him. In fact, kill him and everyone like him including his suppliers and his clients. Then when you get done with that, go by their homes and drop a mortar round on them, destroying their base of operations." Do you think drugs would be as popular as they are now if the end result of dealing them meant death? Sure, there would be hard core addicts- but fence sitters and playboy users? Nah.

You see, THAT is a war. And we don't do that. We only screw around at the edges. Why? Because society would not stand for a war, and shouldn't! So let's stop before your ignorant (and the ignorance of many of your ilk) cause permanent damage to your reputation as an intelligent thinking human. Nothing personal, just tired of hearing it.

That said, I wrote about the end result of legalization long before it became popular as an answer to my libertarian friends' arguments. Those arguments were also boring by the shallow effort to understand human nature. Here's the gist; legalizing drugs simply moves the problem into another area, creates new types of criminals (dealers to juvies, illegal grows and tax evaders mostly), and basically will bring in government, regulations, taxes and lawyers.

For what? A bad habit that ruins lives? I love the comparison between alcohol and drugs. One is bad, the other is worse. If one legal then the other should be too? But the first is bad. We just don't want to stop it. That is a crazy argument.

It will stop criminals from being criminals? Like encouraging women to submit to rape will reduce rapists? Dumb. Dirt bag criminals looking to make cash will just modify their methods. Already Colorado has gangs moving into the drug store business. Either they are flat out robbing them (seriously- what could be a better target than a cash rich, dope filled, unarmed businesses manned by pothead?), or simply moving in to take over the very lucrative money making enterprise.

Not to mention the legal issues. Who and what regulates the level of THC content? Is there a floor, a ceiling, a lethal issue? Do lawyers get to sue now? Insurance companies opting out? Tax revenue and enforcement bureaucracies will crop up. DWI arrests and accidents will go up. Casual users, curious before but afraid to try it because "it's against the law" will try it- some will get hooked, some will get dead.

And for what? So a few dopers (including middle aged yuppies) can smoke and not worry about 5-0 kicking in the back of their micro bus.

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2013/04/10/peeling-the-onion-the-post-i-lost-and-then-found-why-legalizing-dope-wont-work-out/


6 weeks ago
6 weeks ago Link To Comment
People will get stoned whether there is a law against it or not. The "war on drugs" has been an epic and costly failure. It's ruined lives by the thousands, created a vicious criminal underground and drug usage has been unaffected. People should have the freedom to do what they want to THEIR personal property - their OWN bodies. As long as they are adults and hurt ONLY themselves.
9 weeks ago
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perry1949, I grew up with a similar scenario in K.C. MO, where we had a "Blue Law" that prevented retail stores from being open on Sunday, so we all crossed the border into K.C., KS on Sunday to shop there. Over 1/2 of the license plates were MO plates in every mall on "the Kansas side" of the state line. Hard Liquor was not obtainable in KS at this time, (you guessed it), the KS residents crossed the border to buy liquor in MO, & the license plates on most of the cars in the liquor store parking lots in MO were from KS. You CANNOT "legislate" human behavior!!
12 weeks ago
12 weeks ago Link To Comment
There is at least one conservative state out west where the Highway Patrol parks video cameras by the stores in the popular 'just over the border' towns selling booze and fireworks.

They send descriptions and plate #'s to patrol cars sitting just inside the state border and write very large $ tickets while confiscating the afore mentioned booze and fireworks for smuggling.

I have absolutely no doubt that more of the same video camera cars are already parked across from MJ dispensaries in Colorado, looking for home state plates.
7 weeks ago
7 weeks ago Link To Comment
God of Israel “Be holy, because I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:16
Several States in the American Union have legalized the recreational use of marijuana even with studies that state that this drug leads to the use of even more dangerous addictions. How safe is your life, liberty and property if your neighbors are intoxicated, doped up, and mentally impaired, and being so addicted, they are dependent upon the State’s permission to feed their habit. Certainly, their vote, a delegation of sovereign authority, will be used to raise up and maintain wicked magistrates who will be more than happy to support a voters dangerous addictions while conspiring to rob every citizen of everything valuable. Vattel in ‘The Law of Nations’ writes, ” But if they (public magistrates) corrupt the morals of the people, spread a taste for luxury, effeminacy, a rage for licentious pleasures…beware, citizens! beware of those corruptors! they only aim at purchasing slaves in order to exercise over them an arbitrary sway.” The foundation of democracy is virtue. The virtue of the people is the internal law that results in good behavior which is the requirement of self government in a federal republic. However, if the people become corrupted, we as nation go from self government to “survival of the fittest,” from a democracy to a mobocracy, and from the mob a strong man must rise who is called a dictator
Vattel “It is an incontestable truth, that the virtues of the citizens constitute the most happy dispositions that can be desired by a just and wise government.
13 weeks ago
13 weeks ago Link To Comment
That photo makes me cringe.

The Millennials are obviously going to have to learn about whacky weedus the hard way, like the Boomers and my own GenXer's before them. But thanks to forty years' worth of accumulated propaganda, plus their own lack of self restraint, it's going to be worse. Way way worse. A whole generation of stumbling, mumbling idiots that will have to be taken care of on the public dole. Alcoholics can recover. Potheads never do.

I'm against the War On Organic Poisons. But wholesale legalization -- rendering pot the same as Miller Genuine Draft at the stroke of a pen -- is a horrifying overcorrection. There ought to be a license, renewable annually, and a trip to the doctor's office to see how your motor coordination is doing.
13 weeks ago
13 weeks ago Link To Comment
While in the Service stationed on Okinawa back in the 70s one of our Staff NCOs was chosen to go on a fact finding mission to study the drug problem facing our troops in the Philippines. His opinion was not well received when he returned. It was his opinion that there was no drug problem in the Philippines. You could get anything you wanted any time you wanted. You could not ride a city bus or go to a movie without getting a contact high from all the smoke in the air. This part of his report was not the problem, the problem was that he went on to say that the troops were doing their jobs without any trouble even though they were for the most part higher than kites. It amounted to about the same as going out and having a beer or a cocktail with their lunch. Needless to say, this was not what the powers that be wanted to hear though I have no idea what they thought they could do about the drugs there.

I grew up in a dry county in Kentucky. This was fine if it was what they wanted. The big thing was we were right on the Ohio river and the way the law was written you could bring back anything less than a case of hard liquor and there was no restriction on the amount of beer. This meant you could go over the bridge, buy a case of liquor or a few cases of beer, crack the seal on one of the bottles of liquor and bring it on home.

While you were over there buying your booze, most of the time you would also stop by and pick up your groceries, fill your gas tank, buy some clothes or whatnot, and otherwise spend your weekly budget. In other words, a large chunk of revenue was going across the border and our county was not getting near as much as it could have. I would imagine this is going to hold true with the States now legalizing drugs. They will be getting a good amount of revenue from people from other states doing exactly the same thing. It should be interesting to see how much those states that legalize will pick up in revenue lost to the other states.
13 weeks ago
13 weeks ago Link To Comment
Big difference in the 'shopping' thing: it isn't legal to bring back *any* amount of MJ, so anyone bringing it back becomes a drug smuggler.

What will happen is folks will tend to settle in areas that conform more to their values. CO is going to see an influx of pot friendly people, and possibly a slight outflux of those not liking it.

Fine by me. I'm all for 50 experimental labs of laws in our _57_ states.
7 weeks ago
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