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		<title>By: ZZMike</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/pjm-book-club-blogging-rules-for-radicals/#comment-445423</link>
		<dc:creator>ZZMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read &quot;RfR&quot; a month or so ago.  He&#039;s a pretty good writer, and a brilliant organizer.  He always seemed to know just wht to do in any situation.  The plan for the &quot;sit-in&quot; at the concert (first, everybody eats a huge dinner of beans) is hilarious, creative, and typical Radical.  At the last minute, he called it off.

He says more than a few times that you can&#039;t use the same tactic twice - because they&#039;ll be ready for you.

He started out with reasonable goals: get slumlords to fix up their buildings - but somewhere along the line, he decided that government was to blame.

Fortunately for us, there are few (if any) Radicals as bright as he was.

I don&#039;t doubt for a minute that Obama&#039;s team has all read both RfR and his other book, &quot;Reveille for Radicals&quot;.

&quot;Markus: Why is there no grass roots in the Obama support?&quot;

Don&#039;t forget that Obama got 60% or so of the youth vote.  That&#039;s pretty grass-roots.

Obama&#039;s use of ACORN (the money-laundering, rule-bending arm) and SEIU (the arm-bending arm) is typical of early Communist and Fascist dictatorships.  So far, it&#039;s on a smaller scale, but there&#039;s still plenty of time.

Unless we get them voted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read &#8220;RfR&#8221; a month or so ago.  He&#8217;s a pretty good writer, and a brilliant organizer.  He always seemed to know just wht to do in any situation.  The plan for the &#8220;sit-in&#8221; at the concert (first, everybody eats a huge dinner of beans) is hilarious, creative, and typical Radical.  At the last minute, he called it off.</p>
<p>He says more than a few times that you can&#8217;t use the same tactic twice &#8211; because they&#8217;ll be ready for you.</p>
<p>He started out with reasonable goals: get slumlords to fix up their buildings &#8211; but somewhere along the line, he decided that government was to blame.</p>
<p>Fortunately for us, there are few (if any) Radicals as bright as he was.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt for a minute that Obama&#8217;s team has all read both RfR and his other book, &#8220;Reveille for Radicals&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Markus: Why is there no grass roots in the Obama support?&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Obama got 60% or so of the youth vote.  That&#8217;s pretty grass-roots.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s use of ACORN (the money-laundering, rule-bending arm) and SEIU (the arm-bending arm) is typical of early Communist and Fascist dictatorships.  So far, it&#8217;s on a smaller scale, but there&#8217;s still plenty of time.</p>
<p>Unless we get them voted out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markus: Why is there no grass roots in the Obama support?  Does this show he is not following Alinsky?

Not at all.  When O came to our area, we saw plenty of Acorn, SEIU, AFL/CIO, etc. bussed here to join his entourage.  They came to worship him, and give him numbers for photo ops.  Some were true believers and some were paid community organizers.

But they failed because they did not represent the locals.  And the locals here in the midwest are riled at O&#039;s policies.  The locals turned out in huge numbers, vastly outnumbering the O&#039;s AstroTurf.  Then Axelrod lied about the numbers on national media (see RfR).

Obama is trying to do what Alinsky and his followers were able to do in the cities, but America is not buying it.  

It is that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus: Why is there no grass roots in the Obama support?  Does this show he is not following Alinsky?</p>
<p>Not at all.  When O came to our area, we saw plenty of Acorn, SEIU, AFL/CIO, etc. bussed here to join his entourage.  They came to worship him, and give him numbers for photo ops.  Some were true believers and some were paid community organizers.</p>
<p>But they failed because they did not represent the locals.  And the locals here in the midwest are riled at O&#8217;s policies.  The locals turned out in huge numbers, vastly outnumbering the O&#8217;s AstroTurf.  Then Axelrod lied about the numbers on national media (see RfR).</p>
<p>Obama is trying to do what Alinsky and his followers were able to do in the cities, but America is not buying it.  </p>
<p>It is that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: frank grimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ast&quot;Unfortunately, he doesn’t teach them much about governing, building consensus or cooperation. Alinsky’s game is all zero-sum.&quot;

exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ast&#8221;Unfortunately, he doesn’t teach them much about governing, building consensus or cooperation. Alinsky’s game is all zero-sum.&#8221;</p>
<p>exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: rbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12,17: Vivo and Moho: I think you are the same person, Frick and Frak. 

Under communism the &quot;have nots&quot; are still &quot;have nots&quot;. There are just more of them. The legacy of community activists, such as Obama, is that they advance themselves at the expense of the people they are pretending to help. Poverty, crime, ignorance and abortions are the legacy of social activists. Oh, I forgot - so are stupid people such as yourself. You can fool most of the people some of the time and then there are people like you. Enjoy your fantasy life in Obamaland. 

If you want social justice then consider &quot;working hard, earning a buck and then keeping it to spend as you like.&quot; That is social justice I can believe in. The rest is Pollyanna bull crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12,17: Vivo and Moho: I think you are the same person, Frick and Frak. </p>
<p>Under communism the &#8220;have nots&#8221; are still &#8220;have nots&#8221;. There are just more of them. The legacy of community activists, such as Obama, is that they advance themselves at the expense of the people they are pretending to help. Poverty, crime, ignorance and abortions are the legacy of social activists. Oh, I forgot &#8211; so are stupid people such as yourself. You can fool most of the people some of the time and then there are people like you. Enjoy your fantasy life in Obamaland. </p>
<p>If you want social justice then consider &#8220;working hard, earning a buck and then keeping it to spend as you like.&#8221; That is social justice I can believe in. The rest is Pollyanna bull crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan Yates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like Animal Farm without the humor or animals and written from Napoleon&#039;s point of view...  Does it at least have a song?  I love &quot;Beasts of England&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like Animal Farm without the humor or animals and written from Napoleon&#8217;s point of view&#8230;  Does it at least have a song?  I love &#8220;Beasts of England&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: AST</title>
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		<dc:creator>AST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[W]hen the Have-Nots acquire power, they behave just as badly as the people they sought to topple.&quot;

Unfortunately, he doesn&#039;t teach them much about governing, building consensus or cooperation.  Alinsky&#039;s game is all zero-sum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[W]hen the Have-Nots acquire power, they behave just as badly as the people they sought to topple.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, he doesn&#8217;t teach them much about governing, building consensus or cooperation.  Alinsky&#8217;s game is all zero-sum.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book has had very little influence on the Obama Administration.  Look at this entire health care debate, and ask yourself: who has mobilized more at the grass roots?  Not the side that wants nationalized health care.  Alinsky was about effective grass roots organizing, which thus far Obama and DC Dems have barely used at all since getting elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book has had very little influence on the Obama Administration.  Look at this entire health care debate, and ask yourself: who has mobilized more at the grass roots?  Not the side that wants nationalized health care.  Alinsky was about effective grass roots organizing, which thus far Obama and DC Dems have barely used at all since getting elected.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21. TriGeek:

I never heard of Alinsky until this article, I just made a comment on what I read about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21. TriGeek:</p>
<p>I never heard of Alinsky until this article, I just made a comment on what I read about him.</p>
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		<title>By: TriGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>TriGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivo: I am glad to see that you admit you are a believer in Alinky.  Most libs try to divert their true beliefs by calling themselves &quot;progressives&quot;. Of course you know that the American Communist Party were the ones who chose the name &quot;progressive&quot; back in the late 30&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivo: I am glad to see that you admit you are a believer in Alinky.  Most libs try to divert their true beliefs by calling themselves &#8220;progressives&#8221;. Of course you know that the American Communist Party were the ones who chose the name &#8220;progressive&#8221; back in the late 30&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: BackwardsBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BackwardsBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alinsky&#039;s infatuation with the devil tells me all I need to know about him. Deception, misdirection, deceit and lying are his stock-in-trade, not enlightenment, love of your fellow man, nor forgiveness.

The line that separates good from evil is clearly drawn. I&#039;ll be on the side of good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alinsky&#8217;s infatuation with the devil tells me all I need to know about him. Deception, misdirection, deceit and lying are his stock-in-trade, not enlightenment, love of your fellow man, nor forgiveness.</p>
<p>The line that separates good from evil is clearly drawn. I&#8217;ll be on the side of good.</p>
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